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Reply #1725 on: May 01, 2021, 02:26:06 AM
Just read that The Northman, which is a Focus Features film, has a $60m budget. If that's true, then why did this move from Focus to MGM? $40m couldn't have been too much for this. What was the real issue?

Because PTA wanted easy access to the
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music rights!


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Reply #1726 on: May 01, 2021, 05:49:18 AM
Just read that The Northman, which is a Focus Features film, has a $60m budget. If that's true, then why did this move from Focus to MGM? $40m couldn't have been too much for this. What was the real issue?

Because PTA wanted easy access to the
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Live and Let Die
music rights!

I thought he was probably going to use songs from the era so yeah that and set dressing for that time aswell is probably why its 40mill.


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Reply #1727 on: May 01, 2021, 07:06:57 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if it also had to do with them wanting to start filming before Focus was ready, the Deadline article about the switch says,"I understand that the project’s move from Focus to MGM wasn’t contentious; that it wasn’t necessarily about budget (Phantom Thread was made for an estimated $35M), and more about Anderson getting filming underway as soon as possible." It was the first thing to start up again in LA after everything shut down, I remember everyone being shocked it was filming when those billboards went up.


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Reply #1728 on: May 01, 2021, 07:58:43 AM
I suspect that COVID protocols had a serious impact on the actual production of the film.  On the one hand, probably a smaller crew than they might have used otherwise (which might have saved money in 'normal times')--but on the other more overhead in terms of the amount of time it would have taken the smaller crew to get things done.  Hard to imagine there wasn't a substantial impact on the budget.
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Reply #1729 on: May 01, 2021, 10:21:39 AM
Ya I always assumed it was because Anderson wanted to get filming and not wait that it moved.


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Reply #1730 on: May 01, 2021, 10:47:11 AM
A pretty lame, boring cast tbh. Is it smart to even release this wide, let alone on Christmas day? What's the draw here? Bradley Cooper in a small role? Meh.

Do you go to the cinema only for stars?

No, but it's a significant part of it for most moviegoers. I'm surprised that MGM would throw $40 million at this and release it wide on Christmas with no stars in the lead roles from a director whose films aren't audience-friendly.

They're releasing it wide after a month of limited release to build word of mouth and Oscar buzz. It's going to do months of festivals before opening in theaters and will use the Oscar buzz to compensate for lack of stardom.

PTA doesn't breakout at box office anyway. And MGM will release it onto streaming in like Feb anyway

We don't know yet whether this will have much Oscar buzz. And like you said, his films don't breakout at the box office anyways, which is why I'm surprised.

It is going to have a November release date--it has Oscar buzz


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Reply #1731 on: May 01, 2021, 11:22:38 AM
This film will have no bigger supporter than yours truly for some Academy notice--and Nov/Dec is certainly Oscar season--but to be cynical for a moment--will it have a diverse enough cast and/or a weighty enough 'message' to garner nominations?  I think both are a no.  Perhaps it can pull on some nostalgic heartstrings of some of the older voters, or maybe enough younger voters who 'get' PTA will help it along.
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Reply #1732 on: May 01, 2021, 12:16:07 PM
I think for all the talk about diversity actually very little has changed in Hollywood and that won't matter to voters at all if they like the film. This was a bit of a weird year cause a lot of the things that would usually be contenders were pushed back, but of last year's 9 best picture nominees only Parasite had a mostly non-white cast and only Little Women had mostly female main characters (I'm guessing this is what you mean by diversity?). I wouldn't say that Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, The Irishman, Marriage Story or Ford vs. Ferrari had particularly "weighty" or topical messages either in the way I imagine you mean.

Even this year Mank, the only film released in awards season by a well-known director who's been previously nominated, was the nominations leader, despite having relatively mixed reviews and not that much buzz.


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Reply #1733 on: May 01, 2021, 12:28:03 PM
This film will have no bigger supporter than yours truly for some Academy notice--and Nov/Dec is certainly Oscar season--but to be cynical for a moment--will it have a diverse enough cast and/or a weighty enough 'message' to garner nominations?  I think both are a no.  Perhaps it can pull on some nostalgic heartstrings of some of the older voters, or maybe enough younger voters who 'get' PTA will help it along.

Mank was an entirely white cast with 1 substantial female role and had 10 nominations and won 2 Oscars. What was the message there? Did you forget about Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? Irishman had 10 nominations, too


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Reply #1734 on: May 01, 2021, 01:36:12 PM
Insisting on shooting despite the high risks last summer/autumn was sth that bothered me for a while, too.
I hold on my thought that they believe in it and if the critics consensus is anywhere near the Phantom Thread territory (and far for the Master/IV controversy), all will be fine.

Tarantino, Baumbach, Scorsese and Fincher, like PTA, are all well known and respected filmmakers in the industry, they don't need forced usage of diversity (I mean just for the sake of it) in order to be noticeable by the Academy. And their last films (except perhaps Mank which was released in an extremely weak season) all had great critical reception.


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Reply #1735 on: May 03, 2021, 05:46:04 PM
Do we have any clue of how long this is going to be? Maybe based on how many shooting days for those who went and visit the set?
Also I don't remember, was the anamorphic confirmed 100% for this?



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Reply #1736 on: May 03, 2021, 06:26:01 PM
Do we have any clue of how long this is going to be? Maybe based on how many shooting days for those who went and visit the set?
Also I don't remember, was the anamorphic confirmed 100% for this?

a)filming lasted about 12 weeks, though if I remember correctly the covid restrictions affected the duration of daily shooting
Pure guess: 120-140 minutes

b)officially no, but the technical specs on imdb refer the aspect ratio 2.35 : 1, and also I remember a particular discussion on reddit with a guy who seemed to be expert on this stuff and could tell from some set pics that they were using anamorphic lenses.


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Reply #1737 on: May 04, 2021, 12:50:08 AM
Do we have any clue of how long this is going to be? Maybe based on how many shooting days for those who went and visit the set?
Also I don't remember, was the anamorphic confirmed 100% for this?

a)filming lasted about 12 weeks, though if I remember correctly the covid restrictions affected the duration of daily shooting
Pure guess: 120-140 minutes

b)officially no, but the technical specs on imdb refer the aspect ratio 2.35 : 1, and also I remember a particular discussion on reddit with a guy who seemed to be expert on this stuff and could tell from some set pics that they were using anamorphic lenses.

In one of the outdoor nighttime photos, you can see a screen (for dailies? Framing? I’m not the expert), but I believe from the marks on the screen, he was able to see they were shooting on anamorphic.


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Reply #1738 on: May 04, 2021, 10:06:19 AM
Do we have any clue of how long this is going to be? Maybe based on how many shooting days for those who went and visit the set?
Also I don't remember, was the anamorphic confirmed 100% for this?

a)filming lasted about 12 weeks, though if I remember correctly the covid restrictions affected the duration of daily shooting
Pure guess: 120-140 minutes



b)officially no, but the technical specs on imdb refer the aspect ratio 2.35 : 1, and also I remember a particular discussion on reddit with a guy who seemed to be expert on this stuff and could tell from some set pics that they were using anamorphic lenses.



are you purely guessing or are you thinking thats the case based on shooting time. Only because the shooting time doesnt really matter as far as the runtime goes does it.


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Reply #1739 on: Yesterday at 11:36:03 AM
Have absolutely no idea if this EXCLUSIVE piece of article is reliable but here it is:

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2021/5/ytjmen28sufns7l1sj1xa0m7ot0lti

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EXCLUSIVE: At the moment, the Cannes Film Festival is expected to take place on July 6th, even as France currently remains in semi-lockdown due to a surge of COVID-19 cases. Regardless, the European movie industry needs Cannes to happen and a very Euro-centric lineup is said to be in the works.

With all that being said, a source deep within the selection committee of the festival is telling me that Thierry Fremaux and the gang are desperately trying to nab Paul Thomas Anderson’s new film “Soggy Bottom” for official competition. Suffice to say, this would be a major get for Cannes and it could lead to a reluctant U.S. press corps actually making the trek down to the croisette two months from now.

However, there is a major issue at hand here. Anderson is willing to finish editing his film by July for Cannes, but distributors behind his latest film are telling him to wait it out for the fall festivals instead (Toronto, Venice, Telluride, New York). They not only want Anderson to take his time completing the picture, but don’t believe that going to Cannes is a good idea given the logistics that would come in premiering a film in Europe in the middle of a pandemic.

Of course, Cannes boss Thierry Fremaux very much wants “Soggy Bottom” to have its world premiere there and is going that extra mile to try and attain this golden nugget of a film. There has been a lot of back-and-forth between the festival and ‘’Soggy’, but ultimately, what I am being told is that, unless things improve quickly in France with the COVID situation, we’re most likely going to see the film have its world premiere at Venice in September.

Anderson has not had a film premiere at Cannes since 2002’s “Punch Drunk-Love.” If “Soggy Bottom” does manage to sneak into Cannes 2021 then it would quite simply be the most anticipated title of this year’s edition of the fest.