fuck me, does that show know how to write dialogues?
it's the new f/x show that's based on an elmore leonard character. Leonard's one of the greats, but his books are rarely turned into good stuff. this show seems to get a lot of the flavors right. it's actually got a cowboy bebop feel to it: a cowboy US marshal tries to bring in all sorts of low-lifes every week, most of them either comically pathetic or end up being melancholy figures for the lost cause. It's got some standard police procedural stuff that Leonard would never go for, but I guess you can't ask for everything.
you can watch the episodes of hulu. this is a very good tough guy character.
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It's a really fun show. At first I was underwhelmed because there isn't conventional character development, but the show is a simplistic story piece where you are forced to care about the show for its intangibles. Hombre is my favorite Elmore Leonard adaptation and this reminds me of that one a lot.
just finished first season. as good as anything else I've seen. it's got the same sensitivity as friday night lights except this one has guns and fugitives and dialogue inspired by (stolen from?) Elmore Leonard. I will champion this from now on. mad men can suck it!
I liked the pilot a lot. I'll check the rest of the season out.
Hope it's gonna be better than Burn Notice, that show was terrible I don't know what you saw in it.
burn notice is hoaky but has a lot of fun pieces of information, where the characters, instead of shooting the bad guys dead or running the same con game over and over again (like mission impossible or every spy show), always has a really witty plan that incorporates a lot more elements.
justified is nothing like that though.
Yea, I really liked the first season as well. I like how the episodes teeter totter with different emotions and never go in straight routes. It's like Sam Peckinpah's The Ballad of Cable Hogue where the momentum of a scene is just based on what happened previously. After that, all bets are off where the story will go. The only continuity is the Elmore Leonard grit, but it's a very good show.
Yea, Burn Notice is a different beast. Light affair, but whimsically entertaining for a softcore action series. The insight into the thinking of an operative is key. As soon as that dies off and episodes become mainly about relationships and mysterious people who loom over the characters and threaten their safety, I will jump ship.
i'm down to see this show but we should adjust that picture at the top. its makin' the page all weird.
pete, again you are right on the money, just finished 1st season and it's really a great show, everyone should check it out.
timothy olyphant is really good as cowboy-cop character, as good as he was in deadwood, but I thought the best was walton goggins, his character shows many layers through out the whole season, which btw isn't as predictable as one would expect with this kind of show, it's not braking bad unpredictable, but it certainly is better than most cop shows or any tv shows out there.
Season 2 premier was this past wednesday, it was a solid 1st episode.
finally something worth to watch this 2011.
I dunno, maybe it was just because I was tired - it seemed like they made a more concerted effort to make Raylan "cool" or "badass" or Clint Eastwood-like (as suggested by the tv promo), when the first season made him quieter and more nuanced.
That old lady is one of the best characters we've got, looking forward to her return.
um I really badly wanna talk about this show with somebody. I love the series a lot. It delivers all the high-octane such-and-such amidst the wonderful dialogue, good research, tone, and delicious moral ambiguity. I have no seen another show like it, one that simultaneously deliver thrills and intelligence in such a hand-in-hand manner.
You're right pete, this show is great in it's genre. I'm still in early season 1 but at one point we'll talk about ot more here!
I love the show and really enjoyed this past season. Margo Martindale really blew me away with her performance, such a fascinating character. I'll echo the love for the dialogue as well, they've really captured that Elmore style.
Quote from: Fernando on February 11, 2011, 01:38:31 PM
Season 2 premier was this past wednesday, it was a solid 1st episode.
finally something worth to watch this 2011.
Treme?
note the date of the posting
well shit.
third season starts out solid as fuck!
That tablecloth scene was classic.
Excellent beginning to the third season. I loved how they set up everything to build toward that ending.
this is an underrated show, no?
I can't believe it's still going.
I never bothered stealing it cos I thought it got canceled after one season.
Its resilience has earned it one curious download.
if you were to steal an episode, I'd go with season 2 episode one.
It took about half of the first season to really get going, but the second season was great. It has some of the most effortless dialogue on television.
Quote from: pete on April 11, 2012, 03:30:03 AM
if you were to steal an episode, I'd go with season 2 episode one.
Won't that ruin the first season?
I enjoyed the first season, it has a slow start but it really gains steam and has an awesome finale. It's not entirely necessary I guess but it's important to understand character relationships, specifically Raylan and Boyd's.
Quote from: Pubrick on April 12, 2012, 12:37:24 AM
Quote from: pete on April 11, 2012, 03:30:03 AM
if you were to steal an episode, I'd go with season 2 episode one.
Won't that ruin the first season?
it might ruin some stuff; but I think if you were to give the show just one shot, then the 2nd season opener is the one to judge it by. the first season is still very episodic and action-oriented. but sure, watch the pilot, it's good.
I believe the first episode of this season is the best episode of the entire series. I thought that after seeing it and still believe it to be true. After seeing the first first episode of this season, I had high expectations for the seasons. After seeing the entire series, it didn't live up to my expectations. I thought this season's writing was great and have no problems with the writing. I thought the writing stayed away from any cliches and expectations with the expected storyline of one would expected from Quarles. So in the end, I didn't think the scope of this season was big enough. Last season you had a family feud against the mining company and it kept getting bigger. This season seemed small against Raylon and some crazy gangster from Detroit. It's hard to understand but hope that makes sense. Maybe later I can make it clearer.
I think that's a staple in Elmore Leonard's stories though; in which the lowlives end up being the most dangerous while the kingpins or whatever are just kinda boring run of the mill type guys - like the casino owner and his drug kingpin buddy in Glitz were just typical douchebags while it was the little pervert who ended up doing most damage, or the millionaire rapist in Freaky Deaky ended up just some sorry dude while a bunch of hasbeen hippies were the true villains. Jackie Brown and Get Shorty and Out of Sight can all be seen the same way. In the last season as well - the mining company in the end was just a decoy and the hillbillies ended up being the most serios threats.
And I'm also assuming that it's setting up for the upcoming seasons.
Quote from: pete on April 21, 2012, 10:52:42 PM
I think that's a staple in Elmore Leonard's stories though; in which the lowlives end up being the most dangerous while the kingpins or whatever are just kinda boring run of the mill type guys - like the casino owner and his drug kingpin buddy in Glitz were just typical douchebags while it was the little pervert who ended up doing most damage, or the millionaire rapist in Freaky Deaky ended up just some sorry dude while a bunch of hasbeen hippies were the true villains. Jackie Brown and Get Shorty and Out of Sight can all be seen the same way. In the last season as well - the mining company in the end was just a decoy and the hillbillies ended up being the most serios threats.
And I'm also assuming that it's setting up for the upcoming seasons.
I agree with all that. I have no problems with the writing. I love their choice villains and their portrayal of all the characters. I thought the scope of the entire plotline for the third season didn't live up to my expectations after the second. In second season, there seemed to be a lot more plot lines creating a bigger scope. You had a the Bennettes, their drug trade, their feud with Raylan, towns feud with the mining co, attempted assassination of a mining representative, Winona stealing money, Boyd being Boyd, the girl and her murdered father, so on.. I don't think were nearly as much or as big plots in the third season.
I liked how they handled the plot lines for the third season. I loved how the plot line of Quarles trying to frame Raylan only lasted one episode. A lesser show would have stretched that out over a few episodes or most of a season.
Also just saw that Eric Stonestreet, Cameron from Modern Family, has been cast for the fourth season.
I finished disc 1 of the first season, and I have to say I'm confused. I guess I was expecting it to be much more intense. Honestly it might come down to the directing, which seems so pedestrian and matter-of-fact. The scenes that should be the most intense or exciting are usually missing even a basic sense of tension, which is just baffling. What's worse is that the shootout/quickdraw scenes are so poorly edited. And so far it's in that treacherous tonal middleground, where it doesn't take itself seriously enough but also isn't funny enough to justify that. Maybe I'm just spoiled, but I was expecting a lot more. Does it get significantly better?
watch the first episode of the second season.
I loved the first season for its dialogue, but the characters in the second season gets better characters and starts to become much less episodic and more serialized. I don't think first season found its footing until the hostage negotiation episode when they don't resolve conflicts via guns but rather through that elmore leonard-esque dialogue. the trend continues through second season. I don't know, watch that first episode with margot martindale, and if you still don't like it then it's probably not your show.
So this is back, and it's still got it. Patton Oswalt is amusing as a Raylan wannabe, yet still manages some shades of darkness, pulling him above simple comic relief. That shop owner's deadpan delivery of "she flashed her titties and ran out back" was classic. It's unfair to call this an hour long drama because it's one of the funniest shows on television.
the joke and the payoff was great; one that was perpetrated by Patton.
the new villain's gonna be some gospel tent preacher? that sounds great thus far.
I can see though, that if the show's not careful, it can get douchey. let's hope that doesn't happen for another two seasons at least.
How it started for me:
- I didn't made through pilot, when it did came out.
- Picked it again after hearing good reviews not so long ago. I struggled through first half of season one.
- Season two - huge quality jump. It went from being good to great.
- Right now Justified is one of my favourites shows.
Some points about show:
- Great dialogue: it is very natural (doesn't feel stylized for me). We need more of this in other series.
- It is small scale: show is more concerned with pawns than kings. I think this in a way is main reason why show doesn't get more praise/attention.
- Tons of humour: adult jokes, often black comedy. Compared to comedy shows it doesn't attack you with punchlines every single minute. It just happens.
Quote from: pete on January 10, 2013, 01:26:06 AM
the joke and the payoff was great; one that was perpetrated by Patton.
the new villain's gonna be some gospel tent preacher? that sounds great thus far.
I can see though, that if the show's not careful, it can get douchey. let's hope that doesn't happen for another two seasons at least.
boy I had no idea
Quote from: pete on August 27, 2013, 12:44:31 PM
boy I had no idea
I did hit spoilers before watching last season, so sadly it wasn't surprise for me.
One thing I'm concerned with: Graham Yost is also running The Americans.
no - I was saying it in a good way - the show was careful about its own doucheness and totally avoided it. the preacher turned out to not be the main villain, as the show focused on mystery instead of a villain this season. also - patton's payoff in the pilot HAS a payoff. the season was really nice. quieter than the two previous, and went to some cool places.
but yeah The Americans feels very paint by the numbers, and doesn't feel like a Graham Yost show at all. Also he's not running Justified; he's the executive producer.
I thought The Americans was gaining steam for the first half of the season then hit a string of boring episodes. Keri Russell is great in it, though.
Quote from: pete on September 01, 2013, 12:26:47 AM
Also he's not running Justified; he's the executive producer.
After watching some interviews with Graham, I think he can be called showrunner of Justified (he was credited as such in multiple introductions). He just doesn't insist on this, mainly because in the end it is Elmore Leonard's world and writing room in more collaborative than lets say Boomtown.
Speaking of Elmore Leonard: he died about two weeks ago.
Possible spoilers
Gators and Crowe family (they are related Dewey as far I know) - can't wait!
Justified Adds Three New Cast Members
via vulture.com
Justified showrunner Graham Yost is making good on his plan to integrate more of Elmore Leonard's characters into the show's forthcoming seasons following the creator's passing earlier this year. FX's outlaw drama has added three new cast members to its fifth season, all part of the fictional Crowe family, which Yost told Deadline "is a big part of [Leonard's] world."
TV Line reported that Michael Rapaport will play ex-convict and gator farm owner Dale Crowe, Jr., a "smart, ruthless and charismatic patriarch of a Florida crime family who will face off against Raylan Givens (Timothy Olyphant) in the upcoming season." Playing Crowe's smart, sexy paralegal sister Wendy is Alicia Witt, a character who "dickers with Raylan to cut a nice deal for Dale, in exchange for essentially nothing tangible, and enjoys outmaneuvering the Kentucky lawman," according to Deadline. Then there's Edi Gathegi (last seen on ABC's Family Tools), who'll play Jean Baptiste, a Haitian criminal in in charge of the Crowe family gator farm and former member of the Haitian secret police who "has a coldly merciless attitude when it comes to disposing of both gators and humans." Hold tight for all the Dixie drama when season five airs in early 2014.
Promos for upcoming season.
Not much, but at least we know it is getting closer with every day.
This time real teasers:
I don't think anyone cares (four posts in a row).
Quote from: Mel on December 22, 2013, 08:38:51 AM
I don't think anyone cares (four posts in a row).
I care!
It's Official: 'Justified' to End After Season 6
FX Networks CEO John Landgraf confirmed the decision was based on a discussion he had with Graham Yost and star Timothy Olyphant.
It's official: The sixth season of FX's Justified will be its last.
The Western starring Timothy Olyphant will conclude its run with season six, FX Networks CEO John Landgraf told reporters Tuesday at the Television Critics Association's winter press tour.
"It was [showrunner] Graham Yost and Timothy Olyphant's decision," he said. "I would have liked to have had more Justified. It's one of my favorite shows."
Landgraf noted that he reluctantly accepted the decision from the duo to wrap up the series. "We talked about it a year ago. They felt that the arc of the show and what they had to say would be best served by six seasons instead of seven," he said. "Regretfully, I accepted their decision."
The executive stressed that network has never let business drive the creative and has never extended a show -- or ended a show -- based on financials.
"A lot of it was just figuring out how much story we had left," Yost said, later in the afternoon. "Our biggest concern is running out of story and repeating ourselves. This was a long conversation. There were financial incentives to keep going, but it really felt, in terms of story, that six years felt about right."
The move to wrap Justified comes as FX has been bulking up on originals following the launch of younger-skewing sibling network FXX, which has thus far been a home for comedy. FX this year will launch anthology series Fargo as well as Guillermo del Toro and Carlton Cuse's The Strain and Howard Gordon's Tyrant. They join a drama lineup that includes returning series American Horror Story, The Bridge, The Americans and the final season of its top-rated show, Sons of Anarchy.
Additionally, FX took TCA to announce that the cast and crew would be participating in a tribute to late writer Elmore Leonard (author of source material Fire in the Hole) at Santa Monica's New Roads School on Jan. 21.
Every episode, we've tried to do as a tribute to Elmore Leonard," added Yost.
Quote from: MacGuffin on January 14, 2014, 05:19:46 PM
It's Official: 'Justified' to End After Season 6
Not much surprise there. You can find interviews done before season 4 was emitted, where actors/writers talk about ending looming. 6 or 7 seasons was more of a question. Yost hinted in some recent interview that they wanna bring in some characters before wrapping up - that was answer for me. It is just in paper now.
5x02 (SPOILERS INCLUDED!)
I was bit disappointing with first episode of the season, so much heavyweight lifting - it was just setting up things for what will come for almost 45 minutes. That translated into high body count at the end. This is the reason why I skipped writing a recap, hopping that show will find its balance in next episode.
I was still worried for the first 10 minutes of the second episode, then "Justified" found its rhythm and everything clicked for me. There was so much going on, hard to focus. Seeing Wood Harris was a nice touch ("The Wire" people will know). I didn't expect comeback from Loretta - will she play bigger role in this season or it was reminder that people don't change (hinting at Raylan himself)? He seems like loose cannon more than in previous seasons. And poor Dewey - those money didn't bring him much happiness and it is already a magnet for troubles. Boyd needs to straight his head to get out of all those troubles - playing with foreign lady won't help him in that.
I don't know where this season will go, but danger is lurking from every side.
5x04 SPOILERS"Midget shovel" - what a scene. Beginning was funny as it gets, then it turned into very dark moment - this roller-coaster continued (prayer, then family on trip). This is what I love "Justified" for. I could be wrong, but looks like in this season we will go to some dark places - at least Dewey is heading there.
Raylan is reckless - he not only engages is fights, but also pursues them. Won't be surprised if he eats one or few bullets, if not in this season, then in upcoming. Airfield is catching up with him - that doesn't sound too good for him. He had great one liner with dog named "Chelsea" in this episode.
So far I don't like Alison - from new characters, I much prefer Mara. Still there is something about her, that I miss.
Did anyone finish this series?
I just watched the whole thing in a month and don't have anyone to talk about it with. You can imagine my disappointment when this thread cut off halfway through Season 5, with no discussion at all of the excellent 6th season.
What happened was, I was browsing HBO Go and watched the first episode of Deadwood for the 3rd and 4th time, and remembered that Justified existed and figured I'd give it a shot. At first I wanted to get through it quickly, but by the final season I was sad to have so few episodes left.
Its true that the even-numbered seasons are best, but I love it all, I even loved Michael Rapaport's ridiculous accent in S5. There were just a murderer's row of great actors across the board on this show, as guest stars and series regulars -- Jeremy Davies, Sam Elliot, Character Actress Margo Martindale, Kaitlyn Dever, Jere Burns, Jim Beaver, the great Walton Goggins, and so many more.
It didn't blow my mind or anything, but damn if it wasn't hugely entertaining, satisfying TV.