i searched for a topic on this and was surprised to not find one. finally got around to renting this a few days ago and got the shit surprised out of me.
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"in addition to our old favourites, chocolate and vanilla, this week we are featuring six gun strawberry, wild cherry roundup and ten gallon tangerine."
i spent the first hour of the movie fearing that the characters wouldn't change, but luckily everything shifted gears and it was great.
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"i feel like i'm being jabbed in the face!"
buscemi rules. there really is no other way to put it. there's something great about each scene, and that 'mirror, father, mirror' short the art teacher showed her class just cracked me up.
oh yeah, and this guy is great:
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i can see how a lot of people would be turned off by the movie as a whole, or more specifically the two main characters, but i think it all works great.
I enjoyed it as well.
I haven't gotten around to reading the graphic novel it is based off of by Daniel Clowes.
I have read Caricature and some of David Boring by him and he is very good...if you have never read a comic and think they are childish, start with him.
very good film.
Very sad and good
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I thought it was great, but I also think it should have ended five minutes before it did -- with the bus pulling up, and the old man getting on. It would have been so perfect!
Clowes' stuff is great, too.
I love this movie. So funny and yet, like trem said, very sad. Great screenplay and direction.
i'm a huge fan of this film and terry zwigoff. i own the movie on dvd, the shooting script and the graphic novel. good film! i really which more "indie" films were made like this.
ps
i use the quotes around the word indie cuz i really think that term is being thrown around way too much in a wrong context. since when does 4 million dollar budget count as an indie film? i know it was independently produced but i long for the days of indie films that cost less than a million dollars. whatever happened no budget filmmaking?
This has been on cable a lot lately. I've watched several times in the past few weeks, finding something new everytime. The pants are the latest thing I've been wondering about. Any suggestions as to what they mean?
Quote from: Sick BoyThis has been on cable a lot lately. I've watched several times in the past few weeks, finding something new everytime. The pants are the latest thing I've been wondering about. Any suggestions as to what they mean?
well, you know how the steve buscemi character's new girlfriend bought him a new pair of jeans and how uncomfortable he was in them? well, relate that idea to the old jeans on the sidewalk.
i also loved this movie. one of my favorites of 2001 for sure. i didnt really know too much about it when i went to see it in the theatre other than it being based on an independant comic book, but also found myself hugely surprised. i also have the dvd and have since tried to show as many people as i thought would watch it. such great characters. so sad how the friends drift apart after high school, but so true.
Quote from: rudieobQuote from: Sick BoyThis has been on cable a lot lately. I've watched several times in the past few weeks, finding something new everytime. The pants are the latest thing I've been wondering about. Any suggestions as to what they mean?
well, you know how the steve buscemi character's new girlfriend bought him a new pair of jeans and how uncomfortable he was in them? well, relate that idea to the old jeans on the sidewalk.
I thought of this possibility, but don't they then end up as part of somebody's art work at the student's show near the end?
Quote from: rudieobsince when does 4 million dollar budget count as an indie film?
Since the average cost of a Hollywood studio film shot up to $100 million.
Quotewhatever happened no budget filmmaking?
That went out when the studios were willing to make movies for cheap by investing in Sundance type films (even setting up subdivisions to do so), because they aren't as big a risk and they make a profit. They just hire first time directors and getting 'name' stars that will work for cheap.
Quote from: Sick BoyI thought of this possibility, but don't they then end up as part of somebody's art work at the student's show near the end?
in one of the deleted scenes, the art teacher shows the pants as a piece called 'wasteland', apparently they're radioactive
Quote from: sphinxQuote from: Sick BoyI thought of this possibility, but don't they then end up as part of somebody's art work at the student's show near the end?
in one of the deleted scenes, the art teacher shows the pants as a piece called 'wasteland', apparently they're radioactive
That's interesting. This is on the DVD?
aye, it's a short 20 second scene
i love how buscemi just walks into the door as it cuts
I think the best thing about Ghost World was the part played by Dave Sheridan. His scenes with the Greek store manager were priceless.
DOUG
"This is the USA, baby...learn the rules..."
STORE MANAGER
"In Greece we invented democracy!!"
DOUG
"You also invented homos, too!!"
The wifebeater tanlines, nunchucks, sporty mullet....perfect character.
"Mirror, father, mirror."
I love this movie. I've watched it several times. Some of that stuff I could identify with, such as the trite graduation speech. I had to sit through a few of those and I rolled my eyes at times. I knew a lot of girls (and a few guys) exactly like Melora.
It's just such an interesting story about these two friends who grow apart after graduation. But that's not the entire theme of the film. Enid just cannot become some regular working stiff who conforms to rules and regulations, as evidenced by the movie theater scene. Seymour is also a terrific character. I can't imagine anyone but Steve Buscemi playing him.
One thing I really appreciated about Zwigoff and Clowes was that they made the art teacher human. It would have been so easy to have her be a pretentious art teacher throughout the film. That's sort of how she is characterized at the beginning, but we see that she's a dedicated teacher.
Do you serve beer or any alcohol?
Enid: I wish! Actually you wish... after about five minutes of this movie, you're gonna wish you had ten beers.
The movie manager guy i think his name is alex soloz or something hes funny.
The only girls I end up dating are slight variations on Enid, if not the exact same. I can't escape them.
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love sphinxie's caps, those were the days!
i love how the angry store manager breaks out of character in this hilarious outtake:
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and i luvv this shot, it was probably done in the magic hour. notice the empty looking apartments with the tv on.
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and i looove this shot:
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"This is so bad it's good."
"This is so bad it's past good and gone back to bad again."
Quote from: nix"This is so bad it's good."
"This is so bad it's past good and gone back to bad again."
I know I'm going to get more shit for saying this, but I really liked Scarlett in this movie. And no one can deny Buscemi and Birch.
Quote from: Chest RockwellI know I'm going to get more shit for saying this, but I really liked Scarlett in this movie.
what shit? it's true that it's all u ever say.
I enjoyed the film, but as the film developed, it started to get more conventional with its story (commonplace themes and such) when it could have followed through the entire way on good storytelling.
The only thing funnier than the "... get aids when he date rapes her" line (which sums up how I felt about all the people I didn't like in high school), is the scene with Blues Hammer. I piss my fucking pants everytime I watch, and the "authentic down south Delta blues" band is a bunch of whiter-than-white boys playing bad pub rock and singing about picking cotton.
Man, I love this flick.
my favorite line is when the babes are in a video store. there's a trailer from a movie audible in the background...
"the flowers that ate the moon"
classic. perfect. i love it.
Quote from: SoNowThenThe only thing funnier than the "... get aids when he date rapes her" line (which sums up how I felt about all the people I didn't like in high school), is the scene with Blues Hammer. I piss my fucking pants everytime I watch, and the "authentic down south Delta blues" band is a bunch of whiter-than-white boys playing bad pub rock and singing about picking cotton.
Man, I love this flick.
Blueshammer rivals Spinal Tap and Citizen Dick for funniest fictional band of all time.
Quote from: SoNowThenThe only thing funnier than the "... get aids when he date rapes her" line (which sums up how I felt about all the people I didn't like in high school), is the scene with Blues Hammer. I piss my fucking pants everytime I watch, and the "authentic down south Delta blues" band is a bunch of whiter-than-white boys playing bad pub rock and singing about picking cotton.
Man, I love this flick.
Blueshammer is the best... it's now a term my wife and I use for shitty white-boy blues.
"That band is so Blueshammer"
or
"I'm not really into Eric Clapton, he's a little too Blueshammer"
Tampon in a teacup
ENID: I can't believe this room! You're the luckiest guy in the world! I'd kill to have stuff like this!
SEYMOUR: Please... go ahead and kill me!
I've had people tell me I remind them of Enid.
Quote from: BethieI've had people tell me I remind them of Enid.
PM pic time.
:yabbse-cool:
Haha.
I don't look like her. It's just the way I act, I guess.
what was that artsy movie again? father father door? hahaha
Quote from: Cecilwhat was that artsy movie again? father father door? hahaha
Mirror... Mother...
A girl in my Intro to Film Production class made a movie just like that. This was about 6 years before Ghost World came out. All I remember was a cow's heart in a toilet bowl. When I saw Ghost World, I was laughing harder at that scene than anyone else. They really nailed the whole wanker artist thing.
mirror father mirror.