Surprised there was no thread for this. I think it should go without saying that there will be tons of spoilers in this thread.
So, I love the first season, I think it's some of the best tv ever, it was perfectly written, executed, everything. Season 2 was ok, combined a little too much action into one day, but certain plots were really good, like George Mason's storyline was so great and emotional and the reunion with his son was beautiful.
But this new season...I dunno. The writing seems really cheap, they've introduced so many new elements, it seems like they don't know what to do with them all. I mean, you've got Jack's drug problem and a new partner which should all be really interesting, but they're not. And then they show that Warner chick from 2nd season but she's not around anymore. And the president's plotline couldn't be any duller. Fuck viruses and assassinations, perjury is the REAL DANGER! And the simple fact that Kim went from high school to CTU in two years is a big plot hole that's just stupid. So anyway, I've become really critical of this show, but maybe I'm too harsh. I've got a lot of complaints on last week's episode.
I loved season 1, and season 2 was pretty good, but Jack became superman so that killed a lot of it for me. I saw a few episodes of season 3 but I keep forgetting and now I've just given up
I've never sat down and watched the show, but the commercials on FOX are hilarious! There's always one Keifer scene where he loses it and/or yells:
"Who are you working for?!"
"Get on the ground!"
"It's a bomb!"
Etc.
It's a fun game. Next time, watch the next commerical of "24" to see Keifer's overacting. You can take it to Vegas.
Aww I like Kiefer's acting with his raspy voice. It's funny you mention that, my roommate and I came up with a drinking game:
Everytime they mention a unit of time during the show ("I need to call him within the hour" "The bomb will go off in 30 minutes" or anything else that makes it clear that the writers are scripting the timeframe of the show) you take a shot. My god you would wasted off this show.
Love the show, ive been a fan since the first season, and have watched it religiously, chomping at the bit with all the cliff hangers. Yeah there are some groan inducing plot twists and dialogue but overall its one of the most exciting and well done series in the last few years.
is this really cinema? ummmm...... NO!
there's a 4 page thread for "Six Feet Under" on this same page...
And the Oscars, which is a tv special.
Well, the new season of 24 premiered tonight. I have mixed feelings about the show in general. Great premise to start with, first season was great, and it's been down (and up) and down from here. Didn't start off too great. Cliche, after cliche, after cliche. Repeating themselves. Irony going on in the background as Fox News is plugged, and terrorists are painted as one-dimensional (and Muslim), and relationships are predictable as well. Father and son, American and Muslim, both at odds in different ways. It's getting harder and harder for them to be original, but I can't help but thinking why they can't do better -- especially with that much time off. Here's to hoping it does get better.
Well, this is actually the first and only season to make Muslims the bad guys, they've avoided that one for a while. I think it's just easier to yell Cliche at something on this show because it does claim to be more real than other shows. By them showing something that could possibly be a cliche makes it stand out. The fact is a lot of these things (father/son, American/Muslim tensions) have a truth to them. The show avoided cliches of reality last season, and look what we had (possible SPOILERS for Season 3):
Chase's stupid baby drama was a soap opera, essentially. It was by no means a cliche of reality, but a cliche of soap operas. Does this make sense? Anyway, even if you think there are cliches in this new season so far, the show is pulling them off extremely well.
CTU is finally watering down Jack, or they were for a little bit. The terrorists were cunning and actually outsmarting CTU. Seeing CTU coordinate the laundromat infiltration. Everything seems to be hitting a more realistic feel. One big thing is Jack said it would take him 30 minutes to go retrieve that guy at the train station. That's a big improvement on last year's 30 minute flight to Mexico :roll:
Overall, these first two episodes kicked major ass. The plotlines seem cohesive and they appear to actually be going somewhere this year.
Yeah... I was almost asleep twenty minutes into this first shockingly outrageously high-tension pilot episode of the first night of the two night pilot episodes.
Good old Fox... you'd think they'd get a clue by now. People are already giving up on Arrested Development, which is the best show they have right now because they just can't keep a normal schedule.
24 was enjoyable for season one and most of season two, but enough is enough.
I don't really care.. they just need to keep this away from ruining Sunday nights and I'll stop bitching.
Driscoll's schizo daughter = the cougar.
Aisha Tyler = Sherry
Bring Chloe back!!!
I missed the first 40 minutes. Anything really special happen besides Jack kicking ass like the Superman clone he's become? What happened to Chloe? Moles annoy me. They've really run low on ideas. Though this current threat is a nice idea.
Quote from: wantautopia?I missed the first 40 minutes. Anything really special happen besides Jack kicking ass like the Superman clone he's become? What happened to Chloe? Moles annoy me. They've really run low on ideas. Though this current threat is a nice idea.
Spoilers, for god sake:
He saves the Secretary and his daughter, the Muslim boy's dad wants to have him killed by that guy, um the Secretary orders that his son receive the sensory overload again, I think that's it really. Chloe got fired in the last episode. She better fucking come back, she was the best thing up until this point, I really loved her. After watching season 3, I came to teh conclusion that Chloe is the only realistic person on the show, she's the only one that panics/freaks out, she's the only one that seems stressed, and she says very obvious things that everyone forgets about for the sake of moving quickly. I love her.
The mole is soooooooooo fucking played out. I'm sick of it. I agree, controlling nuclear plants is pretty sweet.
Quote from: Gamblor not so gone.Aisha Tyler = Sherry
Bring Chloe back!!!
MINOR SPOILERSIt's a red herring, man! She's not going to be another Sherry Palmer because that's exactly what they want you to think. Another black woman with deadly ambition? I don't think so. My guess is she's there to take down a
real mole (which I am bored of too, as well as everyone on this show having had sex with each other)... Edgar maybe or that other woman that dropped dime on Chloe.
And concerning the power plant thing... they can't really outdo that one. What's going to happen next season, provided that they don't pull a Strangelove and end the show with the plan being carried out? I think they upped the ante too much with this threat.
So far I've watched about 10 episodes of the first season and it is awesome. I like that the show by design has stories that extend over an entire season. It allows for so much more detail and twists than normal TV shows or movies.
Quote from: RaviSo far I've watched about 10 episodes of the first season and it is awesome. I like that the show by design has stories that extend over an entire season. It allows for so much more detail and twists than normal TV shows or movies.
Season 1 is great but season 2 is even better IMHO (with the exception of the cougar, of course).
And what happened in the last 2 minutes of last night's episode is probably the greatest single moment of non-comedic TV I've ever seen. I was literally jumping out of my seat cheering, which I never do except when the Knicks win a playoff game (needless to say, it's been a long time).
Season 1 is by far the best season, probably one of the best seasons of television ever. Season 2 is ok, but they start going out of control. Season 3....let's not even mention that shit.
As for last night's episode, when that happened I shouted so loud and pumped my fists in the air. Goddamn, that was one motherfucking exciting moment.
POSSIBLE SPOILER:
I still thought it would be Chloe that showed up weilding a gun, that would have been fucking awesomer!!!!!
I don't watch this show anymore, ruin it for me and tell me what happened
Specifically what do you want to know?
Last night spoilers. Haha.
Tony Almeda came back from out of the blue (unless I missed something) and saved Jack's and the secretary of defense's daughter's asses. I kinda blanked out there near the end of the episode. He was supposed to have gone to jail or something. Maybe not. Working undercorver. Heh, sometimes you can not watch the show for weeks and be fine; others, you blink for a second and miss everything.
This show just isn't holding my attention like it used to. My roommate affectionately calls it the "Jack Bauer Power Hour." They too were cheering when Almeda came back. I read somewhere he was returning in this episode so it wasn't too much of a surprise to me. The writing should be better, that's what bugs me the most. Can't change it now, though, I imagine, since most if not all episodes have been shot.
Quote from: ono mo cuishleCan't change it now, though, I imagine, since most if not all episodes have been shot.
what was your plan to change it had the episodes not been shot?
Write better. Not fill the episodes with stereotypes and overdramatic dialogue. Chloe and Jack are the only watchable characters on the show now. And to a lesser extent Edgar. Good thing Tony's back now.
Quote from: ono mo cuishleTony Almeda came back from out of the blue (unless I missed something)
Jack made a call about 5 minutes before to "the only person I can trust". He got there awful damn fast but who cares? Suspension of disbelief and all that. Like Kurt Longjohn said, "It is what it is."
Quote from: ono mo cuishleWrite better. Not fill the episodes with stereotypes and overdramatic dialogue. Chloe and Jack are the only watchable characters on the show now.
But the show has always, to a certain extent, thrived on overdramatic dialogue and stereotypes. If it wasn't so over-the-top, it wouldn't be as fun to watch.
After Monday's episode, I needed a massive Tony fix so I put in Season 1 and it's still the same type of show as it used to be. 24 has always been one of those shows where the whole is much greater than the sum of its parts. Now that the novelty has worn off, it's a little easier to take the show at face value, for better or worse.
At a certain point in each season (with season 3, it kind of happened in the first episode so I didn't bother watching), the plot takes a backseat to a series of somewhat connected roller-coaster/what-the-fuck moments (see Teri's amnesia from season 1 and the infamous cougar in season 2), until it comes back together in the last 7 or 8 episodes. I think that we're at that point in this season, now that the thwarted execution was shown to be a decoy. But really, there's only so much you can do with the show; it's about a counter-terrorism task force.
And the only way they can top Tony's return is to either bring Mason back from the dead or give us full-frontal Kim, neither of which are likely.
Tonight's episode=most intense fucking episode ever. this was fucking fantastic.
Yeah, it was pretty good. It seems to me as if the season is a big two/three-parter, and tonight was the end of the first half (third? -- how many episodes has it been anyway?). I'm actually looking forward to next week for once, and not just tuning in out of habit.
Best moment in 24 history...SPOILERS
Chloe with a fucking m-16!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Gamblor HatesMySpaceandUTonight's episode=most intense fucking episode ever. this was fucking fantastic.
Aw man, I missed most of it.
Is 24 shot on HD or film?
Quote from: RaviIs 24 shot on HD or film?
the first 3 seasons were shot on film and the last season on HD
So... I just watched the season 4 finale. You know, the first 8 hours were pretty cool... but then it dovetailed into a buncha ridiculously over-plotted/implausible bullshit. Having watched the first 3 seasons, I rolled with it. There was some good stuff here and there... but the 2-hour finale today was the biggest heap of fucking bullshit I'd ever had the displeasure of laying my eyes on. Fuck this show in the face.
SPOILERS
The finale was anticlimactic. Couldn't they have shown the missile being thwarted in a more interesting manner than showing it being blown up from afar? It was more like, "Thwarted the nuclear bomb, check, what's next?" Maybe they ran out of money or time?
The core idea of the show is ALL plot, but I think I understand what you're saying. The whole thing with the Chinese on top of the nuclear bomb was pretty ridiculous but it could turn out to be interesting for next season. 24 thrives on some degree of implausibility but there are points where you just ask, "what the fuck?" It seemed silly Logan would be such a wimp. Just an excuse to get Dennis Haysbert back to the show.
Its a fun show but there's only so much that can be done with it, and if the writers fuck it up along the way you feel ripped off because you've actually spent 24 hours on it. Its not like you can judge the show based on 3-4 episodes.
More SPOILERS....
I really loved this season. Season 3 was soo bad, there were so many loose ends and melodramatic shit. It was recycled, by the end, you couldn't remember how it began, with so many dropped plotlines. Now, it's a lot more consistent, I feel the same way I did when I watched the first season. I don't think this season was 'over-plotted', it was actually a lot of the same over and over: new lead, pursue it, dead/captured, new lead, etc...Much better than drugs, Kyle Singer, no wait now a hotel is infected, but Michelle's ok, blah blah I can't even remember the rest of season 3.
I think President Logan being completely flaccid as a leader was a great storyline, it was a lot more fucking interesting than Greg the Bunny being a good leader, or at least a competent one. And if only an excuse to bring back Palmer, eh it doesn't bother me.
I was awfully confused as to who really knew what happened at the end, but my god Audrey is completely mind fucked by now, not is her bro gay but two of her dudes are dead.
I think they really rushed the last episode, the Chinese stuff did some to move really quickly, but the possibilities for season 5 are more open now than ever. Maybe we'll get more espionage than catastrophe, seeing as how they can't directly use Jack. It's funny, this was the most optimistic ending of any season, though I don't remember season 2 very well, I know some kid got his leg chopped off.
Quote from: Gamblor Posts Drunk, in February 2005, I still thought it would be Chloe that showed up weilding a gun, that would have been fucking awesomer!!!!!
I meant to ask this back in April. Are you psychic?
SEASON FINALE SPOILERSAs for the finale, I have 2 words: DIE HARD.
From the helicopter crap on top of the building to Marwan's drop from the parking garage, it was all Die Hard. But, poorly executed as it may have been, it only cemented my theory that Jack Bauer is the baddest badass in Hollywood since John McClane.
Destroying the nuke was hokey as hell. What a stroke of luck that it was heading for LA. It was just a wild goose chase through the whole second half of the season until in the last hour, they find it and destroy it. That was the first bit of bad writing I haven't been able to forgive this season. All the other bad writing is fine with me... hell, that's part of why I like the show.
I'm happy as hell that they didn't kill off Tony. I thought for sure he was going to eat it since he saved Jack and Audrey in the greatest moment of the entire series (except possibly Chloe with the machine gun). TV's Han Solo.
Can anyone tell me what Mandy's deal is? I don't remember it being mentioned in seasons 1 or 2, and I missed season 3.
And Jack's basically just gonna walk the earth? That only sets it up for my dream show, when they drop the CTU angle and Jack, Palmer, Tony, and Curtis (aka Black Tony) become soldiers of fortune and we have a new A-Team!
SPOILERS FOR SEASONS 1 AND 2
I just finished watching season 2 and it only shows me how good season 1 was. While I enjoyed it, they turned Jack into an invincible man, which, for me at least, takes some suspense away from the story because you don't doubt for a second what's going to happen next, whereas in season 1 Jack's hand is forced and he is made to attempt to assassinate David Palmer. Season 1 was so tightly constructed. Kim's storyline merges with the mother's, and that storyline then is connected to the one with Jack and the assassination. Jack is vulnerable in this season, and they truly make you wonder, "how in the hell is he going to get out of this???" In seasons 2 and 4 (will watch 3 soon) he's pretty much invincible, so whenever he's in a bind, all you can think is, "oh, he'll figure out how to get out of this soon." IMO it would be more suspenseful if he was highly skilled but not ridiculously.
Season 2 is pretty good, though after watching 1 and 4, watching 24 becomes just a little less suspenseful and a little more of a game of guessing what happens. I'm not particularly good at guessing plot developments, but I was guessing stuff left and right with season 2 and 4. I suppose that since the show is nothing but plot, action film cliches are inevitable, like when a bad guy is about to kill a good guy and then suddenly the bad guy is shot, and someone saves the good guy just in time.
I wasn't that interested in the Kim story in season 2. It got a bit silly with Matt Dillon's creepy brother out in the woods and the Hispanic guy killing the liquor store owner. But the main stories with conflict with the President and some of his staff and the cabinet and trying to find the nuclear bomb were pretty cool. George Mason's story was very touching.
I agree, by far, that the George Mason aspect of Season 2 is one of the best parts of the entire series. It was just so fucking good.
And I'll be interested to know what you think of season 3.
Anyone here read this?
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24 & Agent Jack Bauer Return In 24 Stories
Posted: Friday, October 29
Posted By: Shawn Patty
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Drugs, Chechens, And A Very Dark Agenda
Following this summer's successful 24: One Shot, IDW Publishing will return to the world of Jack Bauer and CTU in early 2005 with 24 Stories, the second one-shot based on the hit TV show.
24 Stories answers some of the questions that have been in the minds of fans of the popular Fox show since the start of the third season. In their second 24 tale, returning writers J. C. Vaughn and Mark Haynes tell a tale about Jack's early days undercover with the Salazar drug cartel. Chechen separatists have taken control of a high-rise in Los Angeles and Jack must find a way to take them down without blowing his hard-earned cover.
24 Stories follows the unique format of the first 24 One-Shot, presenting a different hour of Jack's day with every two-page spread in the book. This ticking-clock method only adds to the story's tension, as Vaughn and Haynes present Jack and CTU with an ever-more-desperate and tense situation.
"Jack Bauer is one of the most compelling characters on television or in comics," said Mark L. Haynes. "This story highlights how the medium of comics is perfect for the continued exploration of Jack's universe, providing current fans and new readers alike with all the twists and turns they expect from 24."
Co-writer J.C. Vaughn added, The first time out, we started with Jack's first day on the job at CTU. Now we've got him hip-deep in drug addiction and caught in the middle of an unrelated and very bad hostage situation, so it's just another average day at the office for Jack Bauer and company.
This time around, artist Manny Clark add his craftsman's touch to 24, offering a photo-realistic style that exudes action and emotion with every panel.
24 Stories is a full-color, 48-page trade one-shot on sale in January 2005.
I never watched this before until now. Now that there is nothing to watch on TV, and the NBA is over, I bought Season 1 and 2, and started watching.
Its really amazing how well its done... and I could never watch this on regular TV anyways cause the cliffhangers are too much... I watched like 6 episodes back to back until 4 in the morning last night, and tonight I'm watching again. If I dont go anywhere for 4th of July weekend I'll be done with Seasons 1 and 2 I think.
And I thought Lost was intense... but this is really great
Quote from: andito dynamiteI never watched this before until now. Now that there is nothing to watch on TV, and the NBA is over, I bought Season 1 and 2, and started watching.
Its really amazing how well its done... and I could never watch this on regular TV anyways cause the cliffhangers are too much... I watched like 6 episodes back to back until 4 in the morning last night, and tonight I'm watching again. If I dont go anywhere for 4th of July weekend I'll be done with Seasons 1 and 2 I think.
And I thought Lost was intense... but this is really great
I'm currently with season 2, season 1 is really amazing and so far 2 it's really good too but maybe not as good as one but still holds, I don't know anything about 3, but the 4th of the little things I've read in this thread and avoiding spoilers that one has some spectacular eps.
Agree also that it would be insane to watch this on regular tv, there's nothing better than seeing this back to back to back...
My girlfriend finds season 3 for a reasonable price on eBay. Turns out it is a Chinese version, probably a bootleg, since the discs are all single layer and the packaging is a little weird. It has the extras disc, but it has two disc 4s and is missing the last disc :yabbse-angry: So never bid on DVDs from a seller in China.
Anyways, so far season 3 is pretty good. I like it better than season 2. More thoughts when I finish it up.
Quote from: Ravi:yabbse-angry: So never bid on DVDs from a seller in China.
Quote from: tremoloslothHahaha, oh ebeaman ravi ::kiss forehead and combs hair with fingers::
...so innocent...
I got the Kubrick Collection from China and its great! Less than 30 bucks too!!
Anyhow... I'm done with Season 1 and I understand why the hype about this show. Is REALLY good. And I never expected Keifer Sutherland to be so awsome. I love it.
I just started Season 2, and tomorrow I have a 8 hour flight that will probably be dedicated to continue watching :)
This (http://www.deltamac.com.hk/chi/e_details.php?productID=pdt0002393&format=DVD) was the DVD we got. I doubt a pirate company would have a website. I was pretty sure it was a bootleg but now I'm not sure. Either way I am pissed.
I think thats probably legal over there
yo those backwards lawless assholes over there. I wish I could drill a hole through the earth just to kick their chinky eyed asses.
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200506171861.htm
Twentieth Century drags ZEE to Delhi HC on 'Time Bomb'
Friday, June 17, 2005 : 1830 Hrs
New Delhi, June. 17 (PTI): The telecast of Zee's thriller "Time Bomb" will have to pass the test of the Delhi High Court as Hollywood producer Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation today alleged that the serial was a copied version of its ongoing serial titled "24".
Justice B D Ahmed issued a notice to Zee Telefilms Ltd on a lawsuit filed by Twentieth Century Fox alleging that the concept of "Time Bomb" was based upon its TV serial "24" starring Emmy award nominee Keifer Sutherland.
Refusing to stay the launch of ZEE's thriller slated for June 20, the court asked the domestic TV company to file its reply and affidavit on or before Monday and place before it the CD/VCD of the first episode of the scheduled programme.
Senior advocate R K Anand, and C M Lall, appearing for the US producer, contended that the act of Zee Telefilms amounts to infringement of copyright bestowed on the serial "24".
However, Zee's counsel Maninder Singh, and Pratibha Singh refuted the allegation saying the thriller produced by the domestic channel had nothing to do with the American serial and they were ready to pass the test by the court.
During the hearing, it was submitted that "Time Bomb" was an international political thriller on global terror with its epicentre in South Asia. The story revolves around a plot to assassinate a young and dynamic Indian Prime Minister.
The serial "24" revolves around the security agencies' efforts to protect the US President from an international terrorist attack.
The US producers claimed that Zee had adopted similar USP for promoting its serial. The serial was divided into 24 episodes of one hour each with a story told in real time about events over a period of 24 hours.
I finished season 3 a while ago, and I'm sad that the only 24 I will watch from now on will be an hour a week :cry:
SPOILERS FOR SEASON 3
Season 3 was turned into a very different show about halfway through. Jack's drug addiction had potential to be an interesting character flaw in an otherwise perfect character, but at some point he suddenly stopped having withdrawal symptoms, so it was back to normal.
I was worried that President Palmer's story would be boring, but they brought in Sherry and the death of Milliken. And it was great to see Sherry get shot to death.
The thing with Chase's baby and then Chloe trying to take care of her for a while at CTU was unnecessary and pointless.
The end features Jack breaking down in tears and then driving off to CTU, which shows that his job goes on. It's not as powerful as the endings of the first two seasons, but does the job.
END SPOILERS
Here's my ranking of the seasons, in order of best to worst:
1 (brilliant)
3 (virus threat was interesting, so was the President's story)
2 (nuclear bomb is kind of cliche)
4 (I dunno, I just didn't like it as much as the other seasons)
In season 5, CTU should have to protect the entire Earth from an extra-terrestrial invasion.
I just finished two and I bought 3 on Amazon. I'm expecting it anytime now so I can start. I'm downloading from the Internet Season 4 (TV-RIP) because otherwise I cant see it until November
Amazing entertainment... and I couldnt stop watching... I got back from Argentina a couple of days ago and watched 7 episodes during the 8 hour flight
Ok I'm just done with Season 4.. this show is increible... I think its the best show I've seen in a long time (too bad for Lost). And Keifer Sutherland is amazing too.
I watched the 4 seaons in a couple of months, and realized also its impossible to watch on TV.
It sucks that now Season 5 doesnt start for a few months, and even then I dont want to watch it and have to wait one week to see how it continues... its really nervwrecking
Some news also:
Sean Astin is joining the cast of Fox's real-time drama 24, which will again kick off its season with four episodes being shown over two consecutive nights. Astin will portray a new addition to the Counter Terrorist Unit in the drama series, which stars Kiefer Sutherland as agent Jack Bauer. Astin joins other new cast members Jean Smart, Connie Britton and Brady Corbet for the series' upcoming fifth season, which will premiere with two episodes from 8-10 p.m. Jan. 8, followed by two more from 8-10 p.m. Jan. 9 (the second episode Jan. 9 will be the show's 100th). On Jan. 16, the fifth hour of 24 will air in the show's regular 9 p.m. Monday slot.
>>>>> NEW SEASON SPOILERS <<<<
As far as I know also, Tony, Chloe, Edgar and Buchanan are coming back. I dont know if Michelle and President Palmer will be back. The first hour its supposed to be already really intense, and everyone who saw Season 4 should know why.
Sean Astin on "24" Duty
The Lord of the Rings star joins the cast of Fox's 24 for the clock-ticking drama's fifth season, the network announced Friday.
While it's known that Astin's character toils for the Counter Terrorist Unit (CTU), Fox is keeping its lips sealed on any other details pertaining to the new addition.
The erstwhile Hobbit is just one of several new characters clocking in for 24.
Fox previously announced that Jean Smart (Garden State), Connie Britton (Spin City) and Brady Corbet (Thirteen) would be joining the cast.
24's fifth day kicks off with a four-hour, two-night premiere Jan. 8 and 9.
The series picks up 18 months after the final episode of the fourth season aired, leaving Jack Bauer ( Kiefer Sutherland) presumed dead, but actually living a new life with new love interest Diane (Britton) and her son, Derek (Corbet).
sean who?
you people have to tell me how's the season premiere!
quite wonderful. much more in the vein of classic 24 than the scattered season 4.
so sad about ________, though
Oh yes yes yes. So very kickass.
awesome! i don't think i've publically stated my love for 24 over here but here it goes. an uncle got me into it in last year's september, i was reluctant but i borrowed the first season and i was glued to the tube for that weekend. i even skipped some classes on that monday because i wanted to finish the whole set. i think that, to me, 24 is what the x-files was to a lot of people back in the days, but i was never really interested in the files. 24.. it's so good when it's bad, like sometimes it'll be so predictable that you'll know the whole set of dialogues , but the thing is that even the writers are aware of that and they don't take themselves very seriously. i think it was on the second season dvd where they said that their motto is 'it may be bad but it won't be boring'.
spoilers for seasons two and three.
i still haven't seen season four but i've heard it's not very good. my favorite season is number one but i think it looks kind of dated now. the perfect 24 would be a mix of the great storytelling in season one with the looks and villain of season three. that stephen saunders was mmmean til he 'pussied out' at the infected hotel with his daughter. crybaby. like gamblour said, the mason subplot on season two was extremely interesting to watch and definetely the reason why i became a fan of the series, the good subplots. xander berkeley did some of the best acting i've seen in american television, but season three had basically the same thing with chapelle (which sucked cos i liked that character). what else, what else... fuck martin sheen, palmer is the best president ever, he cries when a kid dies in a riot. kim bauer :yabbse-thumbdown:, JACK BAUER :yabbse-thumbup: :yabbse-thumbup: :yabbse-thumbup: i've always been a fan of kiefer , he can play a pretty convincing son of a bitch with his crazy lips and manly hoarse voice. but the best part is how he always mutilates persons. always. i'll stop now cos i'm not saying anything new , and if someone wants to kick my ass, bring it on.
i haven't been into 24 until this point, but i watched it after the carolina/chicago game today, and i think i'll have to watch the rest of the season.
i saw last season's finale, so i'm a little bit up to speed. i likes what i sees so far, cept for the audio in the scene between the president and his head secret service guy near the patio door. was that pissing anybody else off? the levels were so bad.
It was a great way to start... I loved it...
I watched all the other 4 seasons on DVD, almost every show in a period of 2 months. I was very into it so I had to watch the Season Premiere tonight... problem is I hate having to wait and watching it one hour at the time... but I dont want to wait until the whole season is over to watch it!
Quote from: cronopio on January 15, 2006, 10:42:42 PM
i still haven't seen season four but i've heard it's not very good.
Personally, I thought seasons two and three were balls (two because of Sarah Wynter, three because the story they started out with was WAY more interesting than the story they ended up with)... season four I actually liked quite a bit. I thought the stakes for Jack's character on a personal level reached heights they hadn't previously.
Which... segueing into the new season, they seem to be taking to heart. Big things are happening. Big, shocking things. There are shifty-eyed dogs everywhere.
Quote from: polkablues on January 16, 2006, 01:21:48 AM
Personally, I thought seasons two and three were balls (two because of Sarah Wynter, three because the story they started out with was WAY more interesting than the story they ended up with)... season four I actually liked quite a bit.
Agreed. Season one can't be beat. The second one was just the disappointing sequel, and the third season was absurd, I thought. So many dropped plotlines. The fourth season had the same problem, but the writing was one hundred percent better.
I wasn't expecting the __________________ to happen. It was completely __________________. It was pretty cool how ____________ and ___________ while Jack ____________ banana creme pie ______________ CTU. Overall the premiere was very ____________. I can't wait for ________________.
Was it just me or was anyone else super turned on by the constant references to the First Lady's breasts?
tonight's episodes weren't nearly as good as last night's.
possible SPOILERs:
who do yu think the creepy guy in the blue-lit control room is? how long do you think it'll be till Rudy realizes jack isn't guilty?
Yeah, there's always the person at CTU who follows protocol even though its wrong in this case, and later realizes that Jack is right. You'd think that they'd learn to listen to whatever Jack says by this point.
Quote from: Ravi on January 17, 2006, 02:03:43 AM
Yeah, there's always the person at CTU who follows protocol even though its wrong in this case, and later realizes that Jack is right. You'd think that they'd learn to listen to whatever Jack says by this point.
That's the feeling I get when I watch "Medium". It's like, she's
always right... so why do they spend the first half-hour of every episode not believing her?
yeah some shows will always suffer by their own format and formula... shows like law and order, when you know that if they've caught a suspect and theres still 20 min left then its NOT him, or House, when you see the patient getting "well" and theres still lots of time left you kNOW their going to get sick again...
still sometimes they find a way to work around it and it works well :)
Quote from: Ravi on January 17, 2006, 02:03:43 AM
Yeah, there's always the person at CTU who follows protocol even though its wrong in this case, and later realizes that Jack is right. You'd think that they'd learn to listen to whatever Jack says by this point.
the writers have killed most of this persons, though.
oh my effing gourd, was it intense. i cheered, i shed a tear for ______ (my cheesiest moment in a while), and now i have to know how the damned thing ends.
edit: if anyone knows where to get the torrents for episodes 3 and 4 , please help!
SPOILERS of course
The scene between Audrey and Jack was possibly one of the best of the whole series. I expected nothing of it, but my god, there really IS so much emotion behind their relationship. The writer/directors were smart, they took their time with that scene, and it was so incredible. I really liked this episode, took every cliche (mole at CTU, crazy lady suicide) and turned it around, nicely I would say.
yeah i thought this episode was great in that it looked like it was walking into a cliche a couple of times and completely turned a 180.
Cant believe nobody said anything about the last episode... nobody here watching anymore?
They killed a bunch of people... including someone important that I actually liked a lot... anybody? anyone?
At least they are trying to make it more unpredictable... and it worked a little... still that President is a fucking disgrace and it the worse thing is that he is much more real than David Palmer
SPOILERS
Quote from: kal on March 09, 2006, 12:48:33 AM
At least they are trying to make it more unpredictable... and it worked a little... still that President is a fucking disgrace and it the worse thing is that he is much more real than David Palmer
And the vice president wants to declare martial law!
Why didn't they shut down the ventilation systems at the hospital and CTU? Should have been the first thing done.
RIP Edgar Stiles :yabbse-sad:
There's only one thing that needs to be said about this past week's episode.
C.
THOMAS
HOWELL!!!!!
and fucking robocop.
best season ever.they're finally taking seriously the silliness in it.
:yabbse-angry:
Fuck those mutherfuckers, man! They've done the unforgivable! I can't watch the show anymore! What they did was WRONG WRONG WRONG!
MINOR SPOILER
but now we know what happened to Desmond after he left the hatch!
What the fuck is wrong with them... who the fuck is left? Jack, and thats not even certain anymore!
I dont like where this is going... and its also for sure the last season of the show if they keep going like this.
Quote from: kal on March 15, 2006, 11:26:49 PM
What the fuck is wrong with them... who the fuck is left? Jack, and thats not even certain anymore!
That's one thing I love about this show. They're not afraid to kill main characters we've grown to like.
The final death in the last episode is why 24 rocks. Everyone knew going in from the previews and hype that someone was gonna bite it-- and they did, dramatically expected early on. But the Weller reversal was so left-field, so shocking-- goddamnit, I was floored. They set him up as Jack's mentor-- we should expect Jack-like antics! I seriously hope he stays on the rest of the season, finally a villian with some weight.
Quote from: Ravi on March 15, 2006, 11:30:15 PM
That's one thing I love about this show. They're not afraid to kill main characters we've grown to like.
And they're not afraid to kill them off in really stupid ways.
SEASON 5 SPOILERSPalmer's dead. Fine. It had to be done to get the season going.
Michelle's dead. Fine. Same reason.
Edgar's dead. Unnecessary but if they have to kill someone off, then fine.
But for Christ's sake, Tony deserved a better death than to be stabbed in the chest with a needle by Buckaroo Banzai! Even Sean Astin got a more heroic death! And Tony has been effectively useless since he woke up. This is like saving Trinity in Reloaded only to kill her in Revolutions. Dumb. They should have just killed him with Michelle and had Curtis (aka Black Tony) in Tony's place or create some new character that would be in there. Bottom line, Tony went out like a background character. And what was up with his "Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya" speech before he pulled an ED-209 and got his ass handed to him?
So the only characters left from seasons 1 or 2 are Jack and Kim. I hope this is the last season because: a) they killed off the best characters (exept for Chloe); and b) what else are they going to do with terrorism? As it is, they're repeating themselves. They've played out just about every terrorist scenario imaginable: kidnappings, plane crashes, assassination attempts, nuclear bombs, chemical and biological agents released in public. They've done it all and it's getting boring; I was going to stop watching until I saw that Cougar Kim was coming back. But they should get out while the ratings are still good.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SPOILERS
Quit your bitching. Tony's death was a sudden shocker, but only because he let vengeance get to him. His line, "She's gone" completely, absolutely made his death worth it. David Palmer's death, however, is unacceptable because now we have no hope in the leadership at all. This president is a piece of shit and probably the worst part about this season. I'm sick of his blubbering and cowardice and it feels like a soap opera plot line. If Palmer were alive, I'm sure he could stage a coup and get back into office.
Man, I certainly started to tear up when they killed Edgar. That sucks. But with Sean Astin and the guard, I couldn't help but think, "Why are they still watching the security cameras?" Also, Jack's line after Audrey asks how he's doing, the simple "No", that was just fantastic. I loved the newest episode because it came back to what the show's about...each episode is one hour long, time passes slowly, and an incredible amount of fucked up shit has happened today. The "no" and Jack losing it while holding Tony, that's the shit that makes this show awesome.
And WHY do all the female assassin/terrorists fuck men when we are first introduced to them? This show is right wing and sexist and I love it.
I will fight you.
The fact that you're getting so passionate about it is exactly why they did it.
You're next.
SPOILERS
I agree with most of the comments, but it still pisses me off that half way through the season ALL the original characters are gone, except for Kim who became a bitch and she doesnt even look as hot as she did before. She and her new boyfriend are probably gonna get into some serious trouble in the next couple of episodes.
But anyways, I also think Tony deserved a better death. Yeah, he was useless and stupid this season, but they didnt give him a chance. Remember he was also useless and stupid half way last season and then he made a terrific comeback!
I also loved Jack's moment when Audrey asked if he was OK and he said "NO". He usually knows what to do and how to fix everything, whatever it takes, but now he was completely lost with Kim and feeling like everything he does means nothing.
Anyways, its a bit frustrating that all the good characters like Edgar and Tony are gone, especially Palmer. And now we have to deal exclusively with idiots like Logan, that retarded Vice President, and I'm really starting to get sick of Mike Novick. Lets hope these writers know what they're doing!
"Audrey Raines."
Damn.
I'm getting tired of the whole "outsider takes over CTU, much to the chagrin of everybody" plot device. Isn't this the 3rd or 4th season in which they've done this?
3rd by my count. if you count the beginning of 4.
spoils
i'm pretty sure it'll turn out Audrey wasn't involved, but Jack's interrogation will cause them to break up for another season. and then they'll be apart for that season until the end when they get back together and then Jack dies. i also think maybe the new guys will have taken over ctu in season 6. but there's still 10 hours so ctu has time to get rid of them..
SPOILERS FOR SEASONS 2-5Quote from: picolas on March 21, 2006, 12:19:52 AM
i'm pretty sure it'll turn out Audrey wasn't involved, but Jack's interrogation will cause them to break up for another season.
That's pretty much what I was thinking... If they can fake Jack's face on that security cam to frame him for Palmer's death, then someone can put on an Audrey face and frame her. But who? My guess would be Mandy but I'm trying to remember if they killed her or just arrested her after she kidnapped Tony last season.
Hopefully, Desmond gets killed off 24 asap because that will mean he'll show up on Lost again soon; that German accent sounds more British to me.
Quote from: Ravi on March 20, 2006, 11:35:31 PM
I'm getting tired of the whole "outsider takes over CTU, much to the chagrin of everybody" plot device. Isn't this the 3rd or 4th season in which they've done this?
I'm tired of it as well and I think this is the 4th time someone has taken over CTU (maybe more, I didn't see season 3). First it was the black chick in season 2, I think, after Mason was exposed to the radiation. Then Bill Buchanan took over in season 4 when Driscoll's schizo daughter killed herself. Then Samwise Gamgee at the beginning of this season. Now, this one. Did I miss any others? Did Driscoll take over for someone in between there? And you'd think they'd leave a note for the next person: no matter what, listen to Jack Bauer.
BIG FUTURE SPOILER/GUESS
I read somewhere that Desmond was only going to appear in 2 episodes of 24. Considering that he did not do anything the episode before this one, I assume next episode will be his last, if its true. If not, maybe he is gone for good. I'm sorry that I dont provide the source of where I read it, I just dont remember... and maybe it wasnt 100% accurate.
Anyways, for the first time today I started thinking that Jack will die at the end of the season. I think its time... and then they are really going to work on the movie, which will be based on some subplot or storyline from the past few years. That way they will have all the cast available if they want them, and if Jack is dead they also have him working full time on the movie.
If they continue 24 next season, it will be like they said before, in some foreign country like England and using new actors.
they should go to another decade. 24 in the 30s would be neat.
Quote from: picolas on March 22, 2006, 01:34:11 AM
they should go to another decade. 24 in the 30s would be neat.
Or the future: "24 2040".
Yeah, but first they should go back to the gimmick/thesis of the show. you know, that it's in REAL time. I'm getting super sick of that. I haven't abandoned the idea that made the first season so great. The episode where CTU is all gassed up, that was the best in quite some time. It actually seemed like an hour.
And 24 in the future would be horrible. I mean, they can already hack anything and trace anyone. The whole terrorist plot would be over in a few hours. They should go back to the 1880s and trace Jack the Ripper and some shit.
before i watched the show i imagined that the split screen played a more important part and was there to explain what was happening in the rest of the world, like australia or finland. as in there were other events developing in the world. my belief is that they need to get out of the united states to make the series better.
The last season, whenever that may be, should be on another planet.
Jack: Alright, Timbloajmakragh, what are your demands?
Timbloajmakragh: I want full immunity, in writing, signed by the President.
Chloe, I need you to hack into the Contium Transfuctioner NOW!
'i'll patch it through before you go dark.'
Great episode, great cliffhanger. And best of all, not a single fucking instance of the president and his wife. That's why this episode was magnificent.
My bro and I were joking that this ain't no love story, and then we have the sweet scene with Audrey and Jack. Nice. Great ending at the plant. "Don't be a hero, Jackie," I'm thinking. Of course he has to run back at the plant. Wouldn't be Jack if he didn't. Hilarious how one explosion hits, then another, then Bierko smacks his head on the cop car. And the cliche scene before that of Jack running away from the flames. Nice, if derivative. I'll count it as a send-up. Oh, and Curtis just happened to have a C4 with him. "Check." Haha. Okay, I'll take it. They're on field duty, so whatever.
That new chick, the one who replaced Edgar. Cute, but unstable already. This plotline is gonna bore me and annoy me already, I can tell. Hopefully she's gonna be here to do more than cry "sexual harassment." And here I was with her until that comment she made after Buchanan "touched" her. Ugh.
Yeah, but the new chick's comment was worth it if only for Chloe's reaction.
Quote from: onomabracadabra on March 27, 2006, 09:12:22 PM
That new chick, the one who replaced Edgar. Cute, but unstable already. This plotline is gonna bore me and annoy me already, I can tell. Hopefully she's gonna be here to do more than cry "sexual harassment." And here I was with her until that comment she made after Buchanan "touched" her. Ugh.
That was a pretty funny moment. It felt like the end of a comedy sketch where it turns out the girl's sexual harassment claims turned out to be total crap.
that was one of the SOLIDEST episodes ever. every minute was great. i wonder if the former x-files guy wrote that one.
Quote from: onomabracadabra on March 27, 2006, 09:12:22 PMThat new chick, the one who replaced Edgar. Cute, but unstable already. This plotline is gonna bore me and annoy me already, I can tell. Hopefully she's gonna be here to do more than cry "sexual harassment." And here I was with her until that comment she made after Buchanan "touched" her. Ugh.
that was the joke. i think it was the end of the storyline.
I'm just so happy that Jack didn't jump right before the explosion went off behind him, a la every action movie explosion ever in the history of explosions. 24 earned big credibility points in that one moment.
I'm thinking if they ever decide to kill off Jack Bauer, the new main character will be..... AARON, the secret service guy! He's just a straight-shooter with upper management written all over him. Plus, he's never smiled. That's one of the key requirements to being a 24 star.
Quote from: polkablues on March 28, 2006, 01:12:17 AM
I'm thinking if they ever decide to kill off Jack Bauer, the new main character will be..... AARON, the secret service guy! He's just a straight-shooter with upper management written all over him. Plus, he's never smiled. That's one of the key requirements to being a 24 star.
me and a friend call him the obi-wan of 24.
Last episode was good, but it pissed me off a little bit. Here's why:
((((((((((((( BIG SPOILERS!!!!!! ))))))))))))))
They talked about the VP so much all episode that it was obvious that he wasnt involved. I think the writing on that one was very poor, because they just made it too obvious. They always add that element of complete shock and surprise the last second, so it was absolutely a fact that he wasnt the one.
The fact that the P was the one behind it doesnt really make sense. The reason being is that, even if you consider the rests of the day behavior an act, which it didnt seem to be, how do you explain his Season 4 behavior? Unless the guy planned this day since the day he got elected as VP, and was himself involved in the death of the old President as well, it really makes no fucking sense. Who the fuck is the guy? Keyzer Soze??
Besides that, even the wife that knows him for so long didnt notice. And what about Walt Cummings and all the other bad guys we've had so far before Robocop? I dont know... it just seems like it could be the biggest thing since Nina Myers, or the worse writing since Kim Bauers Season 2 story.
((((((((((((( SAME BIG SPOILERS AS KAL!!!!!! ))))))))))))))
Quote from: kal on April 04, 2006, 09:19:33 AM
Last episode was good, but it pissed me off a little bit. Here's why:
((((((((((((( BIG SPOILERS!!!!!! ))))))))))))))
They talked about the VP so much all episode that it was obvious that he wasnt involved. I think the writing on that one was very poor, because they just made it too obvious. They always add that element of complete shock and surprise the last second, so it was absolutely a fact that he wasnt the one.
The fact that the P was the one behind it doesnt really make sense. The reason being is that, even if you consider the rests of the day behavior an act, which it didnt seem to be, how do you explain his Season 4 behavior? Unless the guy planned this day since the day he got elected as VP, and was himself involved in the death of the old President as well, it really makes no fucking sense. Who the fuck is the guy? Keyzer Soze??
Besides that, even the wife that knows him for so long didnt notice. And what about Walt Cummings and all the other bad guys we've had so far before Robocop? I dont know... it just seems like it could be the biggest thing since Nina Myers, or the worse writing since Kim Bauers Season 2 story.
I totally agree. If people are skeptical about the Lost writers having no clue where they're going, I DEFINITELY think that the 24 writers had no idea last season that the president would be THE bad guy this season. Maybe if we go back and do a Chazz Palminteri on everything the president did on the show since he took office, maybe there's a connection but as of right now, I feel like this was a cop-out. But at least this shitty president will be gone by the end of the season.
And I remember saying a few weeks ago, the only place left for the show to go is to make the entire presidential administration the bad guy and have Jack essentially take down the government. But I thought that would be a season 6 thing.
Quote from: cronopio on March 29, 2006, 12:20:24 PM
Quote from: polkablues on March 28, 2006, 01:12:17 AM
I'm thinking if they ever decide to kill off Jack Bauer, the new main character will be..... AARON, the secret service guy! He's just a straight-shooter with upper management written all over him. Plus, he's never smiled. That's one of the key requirements to being a 24 star.
me and a friend call him the obi-wan of 24.
I think you're thinking of Mike Novick.
Quote from: kal on April 04, 2006, 09:19:33 AM
The fact that the P was the one behind it doesnt really make sense. The reason being is that, even if you consider the rests of the day behavior an act, which it didnt seem to be, how do you explain his Season 4 behavior? Unless the guy planned this day since the day he got elected as VP, and was himself involved in the death of the old President as well, it really makes no fucking sense. Who the fuck is the guy? Keyzer Soze??
i'm sure it's all some big, hilarious misunderstanding. logan probably thought he was doing something good, like walt. or maybe they suddenly secretly have something of his under control, like what's her face's daughter. probably not though. he's probably just bad
fucking show
SPOILERISH
Was the President pretending to be shocked at Walt's behavior this whole time to fool the audience or is some deux ex machina going to show up in the next episode?
Wait, by "audience" you mean the people around him, right? It's probably justifiable only slightly that he was really pretending the whole time. But two episodes of setup is not enough.
Sutherland boosts pact at 20th TV
"24" star Kiefer Sutherland has inked a multifaceted deal with 20th Century Fox Television. The rich pact, which is set to begin in June, calls for the actor to continue on the hit Fox drama for three more years and includes a two-year development deal for Sutherland's soon-to-be-launched production banner. Details on the deal were sketchy Friday, but sources pegged the acting portion alone at more than $40 million for the three seasons, which could make Sutherland the highest paid actor in drama series.
Excellent episode. Audrey + Chloe, Jack + Wayne. Nuff said. Can't wait to see Heller involved again. I don't buy the president being behind this. Makes no sense, as others have said. But once accepted, it lends to great drama. The backlash between the prez and his wife will be interesting, though they won't be around next year. Since 24 has been signed on for three more years, this means we'll be dealing with the vice prez as the prez. Interesting to think about, now that we know he has no ulterior motives.
Of course, he still could. Speculation. If the recording could've been fabricated, the veep may have been involved, too, in some way. But maybe I'm just going in circles, making things too complicated, which is just indicative of how messy the writing is getting even if the last episodes were dramatically compelling.
yeah, if the recording is fake, then the writers suck. What a waste of time that would be, no pun intended. The episode was really great, I was getting very antsy at the end. The whole bank setup and the silent alarm, brilliantly done. Two moments that made me cringe: "Are you ready Mr. President?" "Huh? Oh right, of course the press conference." and "You've experienced more crises today than any other president experienced in their entire term." Wow, thanks for that subtle exposition AND brilliant summation of the show's own weakness. But I did love that Henderson never left the car. The remnants of the real-time premise always please me.
Quote from: onomabracadabra on April 10, 2006, 09:05:16 PM
Since 24 has been signed on for three more years, this means we'll be dealing with the vice prez as the prez. Interesting to think about, now that we know he has no ulterior motives.
That we know of. I still think it was Bob that possessed him and killed David Palmer.
It just keeps getting better. So incredibly intense. I missed what happened to Aaron, though. Blinked, and he was gone. What happened to him? The whole "Martha knows" angle is played out. Same thing over and over again. That, and Aaron -- could see him in more action -- but that might just be my fault for blinking.
Anyway, Chloe was amazing as usual. Jack wasn't totally super, but pained and vulnerable, which worked. Every Superman has his kryptonite, or something. The scene where he burned his bonds, and the whole "needatourniquet" thing were both inspired. I love the Heller character (even though he was stupid -- just another obstacle the writers created for the show), and even though the whole prez implication thing is implausible, the writers did a decent job covering it up. I gotta wonder, though, if they did the whole episode arc beforehand and planned all this out, or did it in three big lumps of 8 or so episodes. I'm thinking the former, especially considering how the episodes are aired, plus it would give them more credibility.
Oh, and we have a little continuation of the whole crazy chick thread. At least the setup of her being mentally unstable was there for a reason other than just what it was on the surface. For some reason, there, I wasn't giving them nearly enough credit. It was weird to me, though, how quickly Chloe got to Buchanan, too. Blinked there, and she was at his home.
Quote from: onomabracadabra on April 17, 2006, 09:01:48 PM
It was weird to me, though, how quickly Chloe got to Buchanan, too. Blinked there, and she was at his home.
I thought the same thing about how quickly Heller got to the presidential retreat. I can only assume Buchanan bought a house two blocks away from CTU to save money on gas.
As for the Aaron thing, either I blinked at the same time as you did, or they didn't show us what happened to him. Just Martha going out to meet him and finding his cell phone.
Exactly, she only found his phone. I assumed someone had gotten to him already.
Last episode was really good... everyone is finding out and its going to go out of control soon... I wonder who is in that plane.
The funny thing is that you never really find out who the fuck is controlling the whole thing... think about how many people were the "head" of the operation since it started until now...
Yeah! Nothing a 'bow from Jack Bauer to put you to sleep. And no one even noticed.
Blink and you'll miss it. Quick like cat, quick like cat.
And I wanna have TaserChloe's babies.
Poor FLOTUS. She's gonna be dead in the next hour.
Wayne, Aaron, where aaaaare yooooou?
What was that wire Jack was pulling on in the cargo bay?
The rudder, or whatever it is that steers the plane, I think.
CHLOE TAKING THE GUY OUT WAS THE BEST PART!!!
Yeah we didnt get to see what happened to Aaron, Wayne, or even Audrey which was on her way to CTU with Curtis and Henderson. It shows that they were far away...
Next episode will be coo, with Jack landing the plane probably in a weird place. And the President ordering to shoot down the plane will convince everybody else that he is a fucking traitor.
Is everybody convinced for sure that Heller is dead?
SPOILERS (FOR THE FINAL HOURS)
I read somewhere that the some of the final hours take place inside a Submarine... so we'll see if Jack goes underwater with the pane or what the hell...
They didn't even mention Heller in the opening "Previously on 24..." so yeah, he's gone.
jesus, this season has been terribly entertaining. the most metal gear solid of them all . "you don't strike me as a person who would die for christepher henderson". that's jack bauer for you.
speaking of which, remember this:
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LOL, what are we supposed to do that day?
Quote from: kal on May 01, 2006, 10:08:31 PM
CHLOE TAKING THE GUY OUT WAS THE BEST PART!!!
The second time was better.
Here's me reading kal's spoiler on the previous page:
Spoiler, I better not read it.
::reads spoiler::
Dammit.
LOL, what are we supposed to do that day?Get the job done.
Kiefer Sutherland's voice is awesome... I wish I had that voice... anybody saw the new Verizon Business commercial?
don't watch the preview for the season finale.
Good that I got distracted and missed it... the episode was good
Quote from: Gamblour le flambeur on May 01, 2006, 10:10:14 PM
They didn't even mention Heller in the opening "Previously on 24..." so yeah, he's gone.
I told you that Heller could be alive... everybody always think my comments are stupid, but nooooo
SPOILERS!!!!
Im so happy Aaron was back, although I hate that fucking lizard president so much I hope Aaron himself kills him... kinda like he said he would...
http://movies.hsx.com/servlet/SecurityDetail?symbol=24
Season finale....eh. SEASON SPOILERS BELOW
I do not know why the feel the need to cram in so much shit. The Bierko storyline was absolutely unnecessary, and I'm sure there was a better way to allow Henderson and Jack to confront each other. You would hear characters say things like, "It's a civilian port servicing the ship. THEREFORE, there wouldn't have been guards" and therefore the storyline is just poorly slapped together. I'm very disappointed with this finale, the season had lots of action and great storylines going on. But then, wait, who the fuck is Morris?!? And who gives a shit? The writers really buckled under all the plot of the season and proved they couldn't use anything but deus ex machina and exposition to write their way out. Every moment where it felt like there was just too much happening for it to be "real time" (though I know they've abandoned that idea long ago), it still gets me down and frustrates me. The show is at its best when it takes its time. Like the episode where they're stuck in the room because of the gas. Best moment of the season. Oh well. I guess the thing with Jack and the Chinese is pretty cool.
SPOILERS
Best thing about the finale: the fact that Martha Logan started seducing the president right before the end of the first hour and at the top of the next hour, they're already getting their clothes back on. David Palmer would have been missing for half the season!
Gamblour is right, for the most part. This season was so convoluted that I forgot who's alive and who's dead. But I still say, who cares? 24, for me, is the ridiculous moments, like Jack putting up his hood and getting on a commercial plane undetected, or when he tazers secret service agents, or any unnecessary kills, or the fact that Jack is now on a slow boat to China. Incredible stuff.
So I guess season 6 is going to be Chloe, Curtis, Buchanan, Aaron, and Mike Novick bust Jack out of a Chinese prison? They've found a way to get me to watch next season.
Hit TV show '24' coming to big screen
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The real-time TV thriller "24" is headed to the big screen under a deal between movie studio 20th Century Fox and the show's producers, trade paper Daily Variety said on Thursday.
The Hollywood publication said no deals are in place with the cast, although star Kiefer Sutherland -- an executive producer of the series -- has said he would like to reprise his role as sleep-deprived action hero Agent Jack Bauer in a feature version.
However, the paper said the "24" movie would likely abandon the TV show's distinctive real-time conceit, meaning that all the murder and mayhem will no longer be squeezed into one day. A rough plot outline has been drafted, but no details have been disclosed, it said.
Fox, a unit of News Corp., struck a deal with series creators Robert Cochran and Joel Surnow, who will write the script, and executive producer Howard Gordon, who will work on the story, Daily Variety said. The feature could potentially shoot next spring and summer during the hiatus between season six and a likely seventh season of "24."
The critically acclaimed "24" series, which airs in the United States on News Corp.'s Fox Broadcasting unit, saw ratings improve by 14 percent for the just-wrapped fifth season, with nearly 14 million viewers tuning in every week, the paper said.
Quote from: MacGuffin on June 08, 2006, 11:12:03 AMHowever, the paper said the "24" movie would likely abandon the TV show's distinctive real-time conceit, meaning that all the murder and mayhem will no longer be squeezed into one day.
lame.
That's just another action movie :yabbse-thumbdown:
And is a bigger budget really going to make it so much more entertaining that people will say, "Goddamn, they can't do that on TV." Let's face it, they're making this just so we can hear Jack say "shit."
"Holster the weapon NOW!"
I'd pay 9 bucks to see that in the big screen... no doubt!
Quote from: kal on June 08, 2006, 10:31:33 PM
"Holster the weapon NOW!"
I'd pay 9 bucks to see that in the big screen... no doubt!
Aaah, who am I kidding? Me too.
MacNicol among '24' numbers
Peter MacNicol's schedule is about to become even busier as the "Numbers" cast member is joining Fox's "24" next season as a series regular.
The actor will portray a high-ranking government official in the real-time drama from 20th Century Fox Television and Imagine Television that kicks off its sixth year at midseason.
MacNicol has been a cast member on CBS' "Numbers" since the drama from CBS Paramount Network Television and Scott Free Prods. premiered in January 2005. He will shoot "24" and "Numbers," which is heading into its third season in the fall, simultaneously.
MacNicol earned three supporting actor Emmy nominations for his role as John Cage on Fox's "Ally McBeal," taking home the award in 2001. He also shared a SAG Award with the show's cast for best ensemble performance in a comedy series in 1999.
His credits also include ABC's "Boston Legal" and CBS' "Chicago Hope," along with voice roles in such series as Adult Swim's "Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law" and WB Network's "The Batman."
poughkeepsie!
I like a fresh bowl.
TV News: KEIFER SUTHERLAND GIVES 24 - SEASON 6 INSIGHT
Actor says to expect a more internal journey for Jack Bauer this next year
THE SKINNY: In a very interesting interview with a British newspaper, Keifer Sutherland revealed some secrets about the upcoming season of 24. According to the leading man, this sixth season will be more of an inward journey:
"We've had five years of him saving a large thing. This one's much more about him saving his own ass. He'll go from being the one who hunts people down to the one who's being hunted, so that in itself turns the show around" says Sutherland.
POSSIBLE SPOILER
Michael Ausiello from TVGuide hinted about who is the new President next season... and the winner is... WAYNE PALMER
That's kind of disappointing, only because I was hoping for someone new and somewhat famous, West Wing-style.
I just hope they don't write him as a president who constantly lives in his brother's shadow. Let him be his own man!
Exclusive TV News: KIEFER SUTHERLAND TALKS 24 - SEASON SIX AND THE 24 MOVIE
While the actor is tight-lipped, some info on both projects were revealed
THE SKINNY: At Fox's press tour last night touting their new fall shows, iF caught up with Kiefer Sutherland who gave us some nice tidbits on what to expect from the sixth season of 24 which debuts in January.
Instead of picking up the next day, the show will pick up a year and a half after the events of Season 5.
While Bauer was being whisked off by the Chinese for crimes he committed in Season 4, Sutherland won't spoil whether or not the series will be set in China this year.
"I don't want to ruin any of that," he says. "There certainly will be stuff when I'm in Chinese custody. There will certainly be things for the DVD. Whether they make them in for the season, we'll have to see."
Even with an additional bit of prodding, Sutherland still was tight with the details on the new season, but from the following quote, it seems pretty clear that Bauer will be back in Los Angeles at the beginning of the season.
"We always seem to run into great problems when we shoot on a plane, even if it's an hour program," says Sutherland. "Whether there's two storylines, whether one's operating from China or not. I don't want to blow that. If I was to be in China, I would stay there for the day."
The ironic part is that in real time, the Jack Bauer character should be close to 60 since every season, there's usually a one to two year jump in between. Sutherland laughs though and notes, "I'm probably now my age [on the show]. I think I started out a little younger."
Of course the iF staff have already discussed in depth where we would like to see new season of 24 head, and just from the cliffhanger last season, it wouldn't be a surprise us if Jack Bauer is programmed ala the MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE by the Chinese to be the bad guy for the new season.
Sutherland didn't flinch, when asked this, but he admits you can't rule anything out with 24.
"One of the fantastic things about our writers, is the options are always open for everything," says Sutherland. "In certain areas and I think one of the discussions about 24 that I think has been interesting is that people have a serious moral dilemma with some of the things that Jack Bauer has done. So that rides a very thin line already. So we'll see."
As for returning characters, Sutherland does reveal that both Gregory Itzin and Jean Smart, who played the President and First lady respectively, will likely return some time during the season.
"I think they are both going to be, [but] in which capacity and how much [is to be determined]," says Sutherland.
Meanwhile, there's already been talk that a 24 movie will be shot next summer on the show's hiatus and Sutherland gave hints as to what the format might be.
"It's something we really really want to make," he adds, noting that the movie would be a standalone event that wouldn't tie in with existing storylines happening on the TV show. "The real key difference would be, the 24 film, would be a two hour representation of a 24 hour day. It would be the first thing we didn't do in real time. Mainly, we're making two episodes every three weeks. We would have three months to make a two-hour movie – just to have that kind of time to really allow our cinematographer and director and writers would be great. To actually be able to do a film that has a conclusion would be exciting not only for us to make, but I think for an audience as well. The thing I'm most excited about is we're going to make it within the context of still running the show. I believe, the film and the show can co-exist and for quite some time and once that starts to happen, the dynamic for film and television will really change in a major way."
http://www.24trailer.com/
Jack looks bad ass with a beard. Who else is not satisfied with DB Woodside as president?
me. never liked him and i don't really believe it. a new guy would've been better. it looks like this is the sequel to season 4. hopefully it will be nothing like it with every episode introducing and solving new things and not being connected.. but i think they learned that wasn't a good thing to do judging by season 5. i bet jack having to sacrafice himself will be over by the end of episode 3, though.
I hope they trim the fat and consolidate (maybe killing Chole in a huge nuclear bomb blast that renders her body unrecognizable?) because there were A LOT of characters that made for A LOT of storylines, taking away from Jack. I liked that the Chinese jail 'broke' him, but that seemed pushed to the back burner in "minutes" and not fleshed out.
He completely shaved that beard and cut his hair in less than fifteen minutes... :shock:
Quote from: polkablues on January 15, 2007, 02:20:26 AM
He completely shaved that beard and cut his hair in less than fifteen minutes... :shock:
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spoilers
I thought this was really arduous. Granted, it was the season premiere, but the first half hour seemed like lots of characters looking into the camera and saying "we have to kill jack." Boo.
MILD SPOILERSQuote from: MacGuffin on January 15, 2007, 01:13:18 AM
I liked that the Chinese jail 'broke' him, but that seemed pushed to the back burner in "minutes" and not fleshed out.
I liked that too. Its more interesting than a Super-Jack who can do anything at anytime. I think this vulnerability will soon be abandoned, and Jack will be back to his usual invincible self :yabbse-angry:
When Peter MacNicol shows up you know he's going to be an asshole.
GREAT BIG MONDAY NIGHT SPOILERS
Each season gets further and further away from the tone of the first season; it's almost a full-on parody of itself at this point. But my distaste melted away when Jack bit out that guy's jugular to escape. If you're not watching 24 to see Jack Bauer kick some ass, why are you watching?
I like that this season is in a world even closer to the brink than our own. And I love that the guy from Syriana is on the show. But I feel like they rushed through that plot twist about his character. Along with what Mac had said about all the characters, it just seems like they plan to do everything but the kitchen sink this season. So much has happened in the first 4 hours that I'm afraid they shot their load too soon and the rest of the season could be peppered with lulls. Last season, I was one episode away from not watching anymore, and then something big happened and kept me hooked but there were 3 or 4 episodes in there that were shitty, as I recall.
And Jack killing Black Tony is almost as unforgivable (on the writers' part) as Black Tony breaking protocol and jeopardizing national security to kill Assad. But with all this "I can't do this anymore" shit that Jack has been giving us, you'd think that they'd give us at least one hour for Jack to quit before he sees the nuke and snaps out of it. That 35 seconds where he was ready to quit just wasn't worth it.
And thank god they got rid of Kumar. I was really hoping he would turn out to be the one South Asian/Middle Eastern actor in Hollywood to not play a terrorist. :doh:
Quote from: jacksparrow on January 16, 2007, 01:55:34 PM
GREAT BIG MONDAY NIGHT SPOILERS
And Jack killing Black Tony is almost as unforgivable (on the writers' part) as Black Tony breaking protocol and jeopardizing national security to kill Assad. But with all this "I can't do this anymore" shit that Jack has been giving us, you'd think that they'd give us at least one hour for Jack to quit before he sees the nuke and snaps out of it. That 35 seconds where he was ready to quit just wasn't worth it.
*SPOILERS CONT'D*I didn't think he killed him. Looked like Jack just wounded him in the shoulder. Besides, killing off Curtis would lose out on any tension between the two of them now. That would be so much better to watch than two guys in a pissing contest over *ugh* Chloe.
All I know is, at the end of the episode I actually said, out loud, the words "Holy fuck."
Now I want to see the kid from "Lords of Dogtown" go all rogue agent and single-handedly avenge his father.
Quote from: MacGuffin on January 16, 2007, 05:06:12 PM
*SPOILERS CONT'D*
I didn't think he killed him. Looked like Jack just wounded him in the shoulder.
*SPOILERS CONT'D*I only wish that were true...
From the official Fox episode guide for last night's 24:
9:53 A.M.
Jack finds Curtis outside with his gun held up to Assad's forehead. Jack tells him to put down his weapon by order of the President. Curtis refuses. Jack says that he gave Assad his word that he would protect him. As Curtis keeps his gun trained, Jack begs him to stop. "I can't let this animal live," Curtis says. Jack shoots Curtis in the neck and the TAC members shuffle Assad to safety.
9:55 A.M.
Jack drops his gun and raises his hands in a gesture not of surrender but of despair at Curtis's death. Jack walks away in tears. He vomits and falls to the ground.Quote from: MacGuffin on January 16, 2007, 05:06:12 PM
That would be so much better to watch than two guys in a pissing contest over *ugh* Chloe.
Your hatred of Chloe, Mac... is it more or less intense than your Ana-Lucia hatred?
Quote from: jacksparrow on January 16, 2007, 05:39:46 PMYour hatred of Chloe, Mac... is it more or less intense than your Ana-Lucia hatred?
More. The difference is, I think Michelle Rodriguez is a very one-note "actress," but it in a way it worked out for that character because the show used it their advantage. Where as Chloe is just a one-dimensional character, and it's all short-temper and sarcasm. For example:
Ted: Hi, I'm Ted from the third floor downstairs --
Chloe (sarcastically): Yeah, I know where the third floor is.
Michelle: Chloe, I need you to open up this file --
Chloe (sarcastically): Yeah, what do you think I'm doing now?
I can't stand that.
Tech question : anyone know what they shoot 24 with nowadays? IIRC they switch to HD video a few seasons ago right ? According to IMDB its all 35mm Panavision but that info is probably outdated, as the show's newer seasons look quite different than the first season does on DVD.
:ponder:
i heard on an imdb board that season 1 was film and all the rest have been digital.
Quote from: picolas on January 17, 2007, 03:54:52 PM
i heard on an imdb board that season 1 was film and all the rest have been digital.
*Spoils*
You are correct Picolas. I've been an avid watcher of this show and I love it to death. I couldn't believe the ending and couldn't believe Curtis. It's understandable what Jack had to do. I just hope that they can keep up with the intensity.
I thought so too, but the weird thing is that the Season 5 dvd has a "camera" featurette and they seem to be using Panavision still...
(edit : they are definately shooting film, Rodney Charters just said so on the same featurette)
is the difference in look (from the first season) just in the post production for HDTV broadcast then?
Quote from: ProgWRX on January 19, 2007, 08:04:35 AM
is the difference in look (from the first season) just in the post production for HDTV broadcast then?
Probably.
Muslims protest '24'
CLIFTON, New Jersey (AP) -- Two years ago, Muslim groups protested when the plot of the hit Fox drama "24" cast Islamic terrorists as the villains who launched a stolen nuclear missile in an attack on America.
Now, after a one-year respite during which Russian separatists played the bad guys on the critically acclaimed series, Muslims are back in the evil spotlight. Unlike last time, when agent Jack Bauer saved the day, the terrorists this time have already succeeded in detonating a nuclear bomb in a Los Angeles suburb.
Being portrayed again as the heartless wrongdoers has drawn renewed protests from Muslim groups, including one that had a meeting with Fox executives two years ago over the issue. (Watch why "24" is worrying Muslims)
"The overwhelming impression you get is fear and hatred for Muslims," said Rabiah Ahmed, a spokeswoman for the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations. She said Thursday she was distressed by this season's premiere. "After watching that show, I was afraid to go to the grocery store because I wasn't sure the person next to me would be able to differentiate between fiction and reality."
She said the group had a conference call Wednesday with Fox executives to protest the current plot line and request more positive portrayals of Muslims on the show, but was not promised anything.
After a January 2005 meeting with CAIR, Fox aired a commercial in which the show's star, Kiefer Sutherland, urged viewers to keep in mind that the show's villains are not representative of all Muslims.
In a written statement issued late Wednesday night, the network said it has not singled out any ethnic or religious group for blame in creating its characters.
"24 is a heightened drama about anti-terrorism," the statement read. "After five seasons, the audience clearly understands this, and realizes that any individual, family, or group (ethnic or otherwise) that engages in violence is not meant to be typical.
"Over the past several seasons, the villains have included shadowy Anglo businessmen, Baltic Europeans, Germans, Russians, Islamic fundamentalists, and even the (Anglo-American) president of the United States," the network said. "The show has made a concerted effort to show ethnic, religious and political groups as multidimensional, and political issues are debated from multiple viewpoints."
The current season began with Muslim terrorists waging an 11-week campaign of suicide bombings across America, culminating in the detonation of a suitcase-sized nuclear bomb in Valencia, California, about 26 miles north of Los Angeles. Estimated death toll: 12,000.
Watching the show's characters talk about detonating a nuclear weapon a few blocks from where she works unnerved Sireen Sawaf, an official with the Los Angeles-based Muslim Public Affairs Council, and a self-described "huge '24' fan."
"It's a great show, and I do realize it's a multidimensional show that portrays extreme situations," she said. "They have gone out of their way to have non-Muslim terror cells.
"But I'm concerned about the image it ingrains in the minds of the American public and the American government, particularly when you have anti-Muslim statements spewing from the mouths of government officials."
Sohail Mohammed, a New Jersey immigration lawyer who represented scores of detainees caught up in the post September 11, 2001, dragnet, watched the episode depicting the nuclear attack with an Associated Press reporter.
"I was shocked," he said. "Somewhere, some lunatic out there watching this will do something to an innocent American Muslim because he believes what he saw on TV."
Engy Abdelkader, a member of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee from Howell, New Jersey, launched a campaign Wednesday to encourage Muslims offended by the program to complain to Fox.
"I found the portrayal of American Muslims to be pretty horrendous," she said. "It was denigrating from beginning to end. This is one of the most popular programs on television today. It's pretty distressing."
Concerns about Muslims' civil rights, detention of terror suspects in Guantanamo-like holding centers, and stereotyping are given vastly expanded treatment on "24" this year. In one exchange, the show depicts the president's national security adviser challenging the White House chief of staff over the detention of Muslims without criminal charges.
"Right now the American Muslim community is our greatest asset," the security adviser says. "They have provided law enforcement with hundreds of tips, and not a single member of that community has been implicated in these attacks."
"So far," the chief of staff responds.
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spoilers, i guess...
yeah, i'm really confused with the politics of this season. two times, it looked as though they were taking a pretty strong stance in saying stereotyping muslims is wrong. once where kumar's (ahmed, whatever) father is being arrested. they made it out to be that they were just a normal suburban family and were being targeted for their religion and it was shown as something that was fucked up. the writers were sending a direct message that this kind of treatment is wrong. until it is revealed that kumar IS actually a terrorist (at least the third time the writers have used the "terrorists from suburbia" plotline). then the people watching the show are like, "ooooh, i guess it is wrong, but we're living in fucked up times and you never know who might be a terrorist!"
then they did it again when sandra palmer is all pissed off that the fbi wants to look at the files of her boyfriends pro-muslim group. they take him to that imprisonment center without a warrant and sandra is rightly pissed off b/c that's just not right. but then, when the guy is imprisoned, he actually DOES come across terrorists and learns information that would not have been learned had these camps not existed.
the writers of the show are trying to have it both ways, but really all they're saying is that giving up our constitutional rights is a necessary evil. yeah, the sympathetic characters are all against this, but at the same time, all the action in the show is telling the audience that the government impositions are integral to fighting terrorism.
of course, none of this is new. the whole satellite surveillance thing really rubbed me the wrong way when i started watching
either way, it's very entertaining, i've just always had a problem with the show's politics.
Quote from: bonanzataz on January 20, 2007, 02:30:52 AM
either way, it's very entertaining, i've just always had a problem with the show's politics.
The show's politics could ONLY work in a TV show. For an hour each week its fun to pretend that this arch-conservative stuff could actually work.
Quote from: Ravi on January 20, 2007, 11:25:57 AM
For an hour each week its fun to pretend that...
...you can get to anywhere in LA in 15 minutes without any traffic.
Quote from: MacGuffin on January 20, 2007, 11:27:43 AM
Quote from: Ravi on January 20, 2007, 11:25:57 AM
For an hour each week its fun to pretend that...
...you can get to anywhere in LA in 15 minutes without any traffic.
And yet it always takes the helicopters twenty minutes.
:sleeping:
All I know is that Jack's nephew is a dead ringer for Julia Stiles with a bowl cut.
This fucking show brings the term 'its a small world' to a whole new level...
The fucking guy who saves the country is brothers with the fucking guy trying to destroy it... and yet we argue about how realistic this show is? I love Jack Bauer but fuck... its too much already.
Its interesting also how NEVER EVER in 5 seasons anybody mentioned he had a brother, a sister, or that his father was alive. If he is acting like this immediately with the brother is because he knows that he is a scumbag... so why didnt his name ever came up before in Jack's mind all these years looking for bombs and fighting terrorists?
You guys are still watching this show?
That's, uh, that's some... I guess "dedication" is one word for it.
I'm curious: what was it that turned you off, then, Raikus? Me, I stopped watching in season 4, 'cause it was pretty horrible. Actually I watched season 1 and enjoyed it thoroughly but then stopped for a bit until my bro told me seasons 2 and 3 were just as good. Season 5 was highly enjoyable despite the writers pulling out of their asses the Logan twist, and season 6 so far is really promising despite some objectionable things that were what turned me off to season 4 in the first place. I cringed during some parts, laughed during others (the implausibility of some things, the shaky politics of others), but still, as escapist action fare, there's nothing else that's worth the time.
I stopped watching after season 2. I try to give it a shot every time it starts another season but it quickly reverts to trash. So I haven't even bothered with this season.
This show has horrible writing. It starts good because the writers get together and come up with a plan... for two whole episodes. Then they wing it. And they are terrible at winging stuff. There's a certain element of disbelief associated with watching programs in order to give them leeway to make the show more enjoyable. 24 proceeds to take that leeway, make it superhuman, interconnected with all characters in the show, corny and mostly just plain dumb and shove it down viewers throats.
Maybe I'm just not a fan of a show that takes itself so seriously and fails so miserably. If it was a solid tongue and cheek instead of insane action hour then it'd be different. But yeah, trash.
Point taken, yeah. I agree with the writing thing. That's why not taking it seriously is the best route. There are other better shows for that anyway.
Quote from: kal on January 23, 2007, 03:19:01 PMIts interesting also how NEVER EVER in 5 seasons anybody mentioned he had a brother, a sister, or that his father was alive. If he is acting like this immediately with the brother is because he knows that he is a scumbag... so why didnt his name ever came up before in Jack's mind all these years looking for bombs and fighting terrorists.
Even his brother calls him Jack Bauer.
Quote from: kal on January 23, 2007, 03:19:01 PMIts interesting also how NEVER EVER in 5 seasons anybody mentioned he had a brother, a sister, or that his father was alive. If he is acting like this immediately with the brother is because he knows that he is a scumbag... so why didnt his name ever came up before in Jack's mind all these years looking for bombs and fighting terrorists.
he was shocked at the prospect of his father being a suspect. i doubt he considered his brother terrorist material before no matter how scumbaggy. and even though introducing all this family in season 6 is a little weird because it seems like we've known these characters for so long, we've really only known jack for 5 non-consecutive days on the job. there are tons of days in most people's lives where family members aren't mentioned or involved. i think 24 is maybe the only show that can get away with this.
Quote from: Raikus on January 23, 2007, 04:36:10 PM
You guys are still watching this show?
That's, uh, that's some... I guess "dedication" is one word for it.
the show picks up new viewers every season and so far every season is higher-rated than the last. i agree season 4 was the worst because way too much happened but season 5 was gold.
so far my biggest problem with this season is wayne palmer. just a bad actor/not believable as president.
Quote from: picolas on January 23, 2007, 11:33:49 PM
so far my biggest problem with this season is wayne palmer. just a bad actor/not believable as president.
Seriously. His address to the nation at the end of the episode made me want to run out and start looting.
As for all the "unrealistic" complaints... who in their right mind
ever watched 24 for its realism? It's an escapist political thriller. It's the TV equivalent of a book you buy at the airport. It's 21st century Ludlum... utterly ludicrous fiction with just enough of a nod to reality to make it gripping.
Its addictive... and Jack Bauer is the superhero of the new millenium... doesnt matter how many mistakes they make I'm still watching this like if it really was the end of the world... and honestly after seeing President Bush in his State of the Bullshit once again... Wayne Palmer is doing a great job as a president compared to this sucker... if we want to be realistic, the one that seemed like a fantasy president for this country was David Palmer :yabbse-thumbup:
Quote from: MacGuffin on January 23, 2007, 10:14:21 PM
Quote from: kal on January 23, 2007, 03:19:01 PMIts interesting also how NEVER EVER in 5 seasons anybody mentioned he had a brother, a sister, or that his father was alive. If he is acting like this immediately with the brother is because he knows that he is a scumbag... so why didnt his name ever came up before in Jack's mind all these years looking for bombs and fighting terrorists.
Even his brother calls him Jack Bauer.
i stole a few episodes of this new season but i haven't bothered watching them cos you really have be in the mood to NOT think logically, which is why it's good/healthy that picoloves it so much.. but i gotta say, his brother calling him jack bauer is hilarious and has made me want to watch it now.
Quote from: picolas on January 23, 2007, 11:33:49 PM
so far my biggest problem with this season is wayne palmer. just a bad actor/not believable as president.
Yeah, when he addressed the country after the bomb went off, he just wasn't selling it. He was "acting" and he didn't sound like even remotely like A) a president reading a prompter; or B) a president reading a prompter about an hour after a nuke was detonated in a major city.
And forget Jack having a brother, I'm still irritated that David Palmer (R.I.P.) has a brother and now a sister as well! I've been meaning to rewatch season 1 to see if they ever mentioned any siblings. But I'm sure they deliberately kept everyone's family history open so they can stick in relatives whenever they need new characters with interesting angles.
The sister is new, but his brother was in Season 3 and Season 5. In Season 3 he was Chief of Staff, and in Season 5 he was working with Jack trying to find out who killed David Palmer... he's been around for a while. The sister is new. The sister's boyfriend is still pissed because Morpheous took his place and his girl.
Quote from: jacksparrow on January 24, 2007, 08:32:57 AMAnd forget Jack having a brother, I'm still irritated that David Palmer (R.I.P.) has a brother and now a sister as well!
I'm hoping they feed her to the season 2 cougars.
Quote from: kal on January 24, 2007, 12:46:22 PM
The sister is new, but his brother was in Season 3 and Season 5. In Season 3 he was Chief of Staff, and in Season 5 he was working with Jack trying to find out who killed David Palmer... he's been around for a while. The sister is new. The sister's boyfriend is still pissed because Morpheous took his place and his girl.
I might have mentioned before that season 3 lost in the first episode when Jack was on heroin and I still haven't gone back to watch it all. But I found out he was introduced in season 3 when he returned in season 5. But even so, waiting until season 3 to add a brother and until season 6 to add a sister who was never spoken of before, that's just... come on.
What next? Jack's towheaded nephew is really his son?
Quote from: jacksparrow on January 24, 2007, 01:54:35 PM
What next? Jack's towheaded nephew is really his son?
bingo!
Six degrees of Jack Bauer?
top 100 24 moments (with video) (and extreme spoils)
http://www.progressiveboink.com/archive/24100/1.html
This show is the new Walker, Texas Ranger.
Graham: "Jack, you are already hurting me!"
Jack: "Trust me. I'm not!"
As long as we have Jack Bauer, I love this show!
That exchange between Peter Nichols and Buchanan's wife was embarrassing. Worst writing since season 3. I'm not watching any more episodes.
Last episode was really the first BAD episode. It was boring, nothing good happened at all. The truth is it was the first episode that seemed like things are really happening in real time, which is the point of the show, but it was boring.
can tv get any badder than this? i looooove it.
The torturing Grahm scene was intense, saw the Maurice thing a mile away, the dialogue is awful.
Quote from: shnorff on February 05, 2007, 10:13:33 PMsaw the Maurice thing a mile away
Saw the father thing five miles away.
Quote from: Ravi on January 15, 2007, 02:09:19 PM
When Peter MacNicol shows up you know he's going to be an asshole.
And when James Cromwell shows up without a pig or a pocket protector, you know he's covering something up.
Quote from: kal on January 24, 2007, 05:25:10 PM
Quote from: jacksparrow on January 24, 2007, 01:54:35 PM
What next? Jack's towheaded nephew is really his son?
bingo!
Last night, when the kid said to Jack, "What are you gonna do to my dad?" I half expected Jack to say, "I'm not going to do anything to... your dad." *cue piano music*
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'24' gets a lesson in torture from the experts
Source: Los Angeles Times
A few steps away from the CTU set of Fox's "24," an unlikely alliance of human rights activists, the dean of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and veteran interrogators with experience stretching from Saigon to Abu Ghraib gathered around two tables in mid-November. The group was there to meet with some of the creative forces behind "24," one of television's most successful serialized dramas, famous for its relentless derring-do depiction of an American counter terrorism unit.
The East Coast crowd didn't fly into town to pitch another quasi-military action series, but rather to advance a simple plea -- Make your torture scenes more authentic.
By that, they did not mean bloodier or more savage. Instead, they wanted "24" to show torture subjects taking weeks or months to break, spitting out false or unreliable intelligence, and even dying. As they do in the real world.
"We're not opposed to having torture on television, but 98% of the time when it is shown it's 'Bing, bang, boom,' and it works," said David Danzig, director of the Prime Time Torture Project for the New York-based organization Human Rights First. "Frankly, it's unrealistic and it's kind of boring."
More troubling, the disparate group told "24" writers and executive producers, are the social and political consequences of television's current version of torture and who is performing it. Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, prime-time television has seen a surge of torture sequences.
From 1996 to 2001, there were 102 scenes of torture, according to the Parents Television Council. But from 2002 to 2005, that figured had jumped to 624, they said. "24" has accounted for 67 such scenes during its first five seasons, making it No. 1 in torture depictions, according to the watchdog group.
The increase in quantity is not the only difference. During this uptick in violence, the torturer's identity was more likely to be an American hero like "24's" Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) than the Nazis and drug dealers in pre-9/11 days. The action-packed show, which drew a hefty 13.6 million viewers last week, was among the first and certainly the most prominent to have its main character choke, stab, or electrocute — among other techniques — information out of villains.
"It's unthinkable that Capt. Kirk would torture someone," said Danzig.
While hardly alone in the entertainment universe of television and movies in portraying torture, shows like "24" and later ABC's "Lost" were sought out by the human rights activists because of their immense popularity, both here and around the world. Even in Iraq, such series can sometimes substitute for or trump military training, and transmit a dark message to soldiers.
"Everyone wanted to be a Hollywood interrogator," said Tony Lagouranis, a former U.S. Army interrogator at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq who spoke to the creative teams from "24" and "Lost." "That's all people did in Iraq was watch DVDs of television shows and movies. What we learned in military schools didn't apply anymore."
At the infamous Iraqi prison for almost all of 2004, Lagouranis soon left the military and went to the media to detail the torture, largely ineffective, which was visited upon the inmates. He said that his actions -- sleep deprivation, hypothermia, dietary manipulations and use of dogs, all illegal according to American and international law -- were relatively mild compared to what else was being practiced.
"It's an ugly thing," said Lagouranis. "You don't get neat, tidy answers like you do on television."
The Hollywood meeting, a spirited back-and-forth discussion with its moments of defensiveness by most accounts, lasted a couple hours and was followed by an Italian lunch. For the "24" team, the afternoon served as a rare opportunity for them to debrief real world interrogators, but it also stirred up television's age-old tension between entertainment and social responsibility.
"The meeting was an eye-opener," said "24" executive producer Howard Gordon. "We hadn't really thought a lot about torture as anything more than a dramatic device."
As a result, Gordon has been filmed for a Humans Rights First video about torture that is expected to be used next fall at West Point and perhaps other military organizations as well. Executive producers from "Lost" also agreed to be in the video, which was shot last month.
Human Rights First, a nonprofit group with an annual budget of about $7 million, plans to continue pushing the point. They are in talks with the Writers Guild of America to bring in their team of former interrogators to discuss real-world experiences with Hollywood writers.
It's typically a cold, snowy day in Hollywood when time-pressured, well-moneyed producers concede to face-to-face talks with a nonprofit human rights group armed with an agenda inherently critical of their shows' themes. But like most successful Hollywood ventures, relationships and serendipity played a big part in bringing the sides together.
Last year, Human Rights First was contacted by David Zabel, an executive producer of NBC's "ER," who was fact-checking a show story thread about the crisis in Darfur. The connection ultimately proved fortuitous. Zabel knew his counterparts at "24" and "Lost," whose ensemble includes a sympathetic torturer named Sayid, and introduced them to the human rights group.
Meanwhile, Danzig, whose father was former Secretary of the Navy under the Clinton administration, helped recruit military interrogators and West Point's dean, Brig. Gen. Patrick Finnegan, to travel to Hollywood.
"I was pretty skeptical to begin with," said retired Col. Stu Herrington who worked U.S. Army interrogations from Vietnam to the first Gulf War. "I mean these guys have a load of Emmys, a top show. Why should they listen to us? Their business model is based upon a shtick where Jack tortures the hell out of someone and they save the world."
The "24" team immediately challenged that view with openness and candor. It's true that Jack Bauer has tortured suspects, but he's no cartoon character, Gordon argued. "Our opinion is Jack Bauer hurts people and whether right or wrong, he's suffering for it," said Gordon. "It's not glorified."
Bauer, himself the victim of horrible violence, clearly is traumatized by what he's forced to do to others in the name of national security. In one instance this season, while in pursuit of information on the whereabouts of a suitcase nuke in Los Angeles, Bauer didn't have the stomach to torture a suspect. Later, however, the action hero recovered his steely nerve, and put a plastic bag over the head of his evil brother for information.
To Gordon and the "Lost" producers, it's almost absurd that they should have to make clear that the fictionalized torture events that jack up America's adrenaline are intended for anything other than entertainment.
" '24' is a television show with its own dramatic requirements which are reductive and unreal," said Gordon. "And to that extent, we would like to participate in any way we can with disabusing young kids in the military of any confusion over that."
CBS' "The Unit" is another successful prime-time show that revolves around an American counter terrorism unit. However, the show has consciously avoided having its "good guys" torture.
"We've tried to show the futility of it and how it hurts both parties," said Shawn Ryan, an executive producer of "The Unit" which has devoted a couple episodes on the topic. "But I realize that safety comes first for people and things like civil freedoms can become endangered in times of war and fear. And we live in a time of war and fear. I mean, how much useful information was pulled from Abu Ghraib? Probably none. But how much damage did it do to America around the world?"
In extremely rare instances, torture may actually work, said Herrington, who notes it's still practiced in many other countries. But what is far more likely to happen in such cases is the torturer will receive unreliable information — or will lose their suspect completely.
"A human being isn't a light switch," said Joe Navarro, a former counterintelligence agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. "We don't really know when someone will go into shock or when they will faint or even die."
Real life interrogations are much more about building trust or staging psychological games to induce a subject to talk — and keep talking, added Navarro.
Sympathetic with the human rights group's agenda, producers for both "24" and "Lost" agreed to be interviewed on camera for an educational video for the military. Taping a public service message is one thing. Tinkering with the fragile, almost mystical, insides of a hit television show is another.
Producers for both shows balked at saying whether story lines would actually shift as a result of their discussions.
"It's a lot more dynamic to see somebody tortured than to win someone's trust," said Carlton Cuse, an executive producer of "Lost." "Particularly in the framework of an action/adventure show like 'Lost' and '24.' "
Yea! Two hours free of the president's sister!
Quote from: MacGuffin on February 11, 2007, 12:20:34 AM
Instead, they wanted "24" to show torture subjects taking weeks or months to break,
this is a joke right?
Quote from: MacGuffin on February 13, 2007, 12:06:43 AM
Yea! Two hours free of the president's sister!
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"WE HAVE TO GET WALID OUTTA THERE!
...After i take a break for breakfast and waste up a shitload of screen time."
Well I agree with that about the sister, but honestly the 2 hours of screen time this week seemed like 20 minutes. Nothing happened.
I think Jack's return to CTU was lame also, as it was his first time there for a long time and he didnt even hug Chloe.
I cant complain much about this cause its Jack Bauer, but so far this season is not that great. And I hope they dont go with the same plotline in Season 2 of removing the president and bla bla bla.
I think the guy behind Chad Lowe is either Jack's father or ex-President Logan.
Quote from: kal on February 15, 2007, 10:39:56 AMAnd I hope they dont go with the same plotline in Season 2 of removing the president and bla bla bla.
Chad Lowe said he wasn't talking about hearings.
SPOILERS
Last episode pissed me off... the lack of security is stupid.
With the country on the highest alert level EVER someone can still smuggle a bomb into the presidents SECURE ANTI-BOMBING refugee and make it explode... fucking stupid.
Besides, nobody monitors that room were Chad Lowe is hiding Lennox... but dont people standing in the hallways see him getting there like 20 times in the past 2 hours? Nobody wonders what the fuck he is doing in there or ask him?
Logan is a rat piece of shit... I like that I fucking still hate the bastard... I cant believe he was responsible for killing David Palmer. He was one of the best characters.
Human Giant Update... ("24" Edition)
We just finished the majority of our shooting our MTV show "Human Giant" on Friday and we'll be back in New York to finish up editing, test screen stuff, and put the show together.
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On Thursday, we shot episode 2 of "Spacelords" (one of our new episodic pieces) with Mary Lynn Rajksub. My character, Udon, was her love interest. It may the only time in television history a character with a ponytail and a widow's peak has had a love interest. Even though my experience with it was brief, I can safely say the PT/WP (ponytail/widow's peak) combo is very deadly and not recommended for casual use.
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Of course, Mary Lynn plays Chloe on "24," so in between takes, I would repeatedly bother her for "24" gossip. Here's some interesting tidbits she gave up:
- DB Woodside aka President Wayne Palmer is notorious for stealing food from the "24" craft services table. If you watch certain takes in the oval office scenes, you can see packs of dried apricots hanging out of his pockets.
- Actor Carlos Bernard held a mock funeral for his character Tony Almeda. Cast and crew did not attend and Bernard went apeshit and stole 3 laptops from the CTU set.
- This was a real shocker - the death of fan favorite Edgar Stiles was not supposed to happen, but was written into the series when actor Louis Lombardi walked into a room full of poisonous gas. Luckily cameras were still rolling and Mr. Lombardi stayed in character, thus allowing the footage of his death to make it into the series.
On a related note, I had my first official Kiefer Sutherland encounter in a bar last night in LA, but was too scared to say anything. My friend Jonah did have this exchange with him as we left.
Jonah: 4100 bar! (Implying we should all go there next, as the place we were at was closing)
Kiefer: Kyaaaaaaaaarrrgh!
He did not show up there, but it was awesome to hear him make that noise.
http://www.thehumangiant.com/
i was really hoping the first few pieces of gossip were true.
SPOILERS FOR JUST ABOUT EVERY SEASON
I missed last week's episode but I was given the highlights. So, in the last 8 years or so, there's been three attempts on the same president's life (once when he was running, once while in office, and once after he left office, which was successful), one president was assassinated while in office, his successor was guilty of treason, and now there's been an attempt on the current president's life. Oh, and 2 nuclear bombs have been detonated on US soil with the promise of more and there have been a couple of chemical attacks too.
Nothing. Just... you know... wow.
And there were two black presidents!
my favourite scene was when palmer number one cried when a dude told him that a sixteen year old boy was killed in some riots.
i don't watch this show anymore
Quote from: cronopio on March 06, 2007, 04:58:57 PM
i don't watch this show anymore
My friend, you're missing out. The biggest cliffhanger/suspenseful storyline is if Morris will go back to drinking again.
The Morris story pisses me off. We have this potentially interesting story about a guy shaken up by the fact that he's just possibly facilitated the explosion of three nuclear bombs and the writers give him the cliche of alcoholism to show his anguish??? I should know better than to desire anything close to psychological drama on 24...
I hate to admit it but I'm getting the feeling 24 jumped to the abyss...
I mean, a lot has happened over the seasons thats unrealistic, and all that... but they were still super entertaining and keeping you in the edge.
This season, is NOT... everything is super predictable, and it starts looking more like The Apprentice with everybody fucking each other to get what they want and then getting caught... they all seem so smart, yet they are not.
Last episode was also the first time Jack got himself into trouble without even thinking how to fucking escape. They blew the door over him. Why did he walk there knowing all the people were outisde? I mean, it made no sense at all even for Jack Bauer. He always picks up the phone right away before even walking one step.
The jackass vice president, the stupid thing about doing the best to save the country... nobody fucking believes that so stop repeating it. I dont know, most of the dialogue just bothers me and I dont watch this excited like before... really bad that 24 and Lost are going down this year... although Lost keeps being original and I still have hope for them.
Quote from: kal on March 08, 2007, 01:29:28 AMI dont watch this excited like before...
And the cliffhangers are so ho-hum. I would stay up till morning watching the DVDs because I had to know how the situation was solved at the end of each episode. But this season doesn't make we want each Monday to come so soon.
Quote from: kal on March 08, 2007, 01:29:28 AMWhy did he walk there knowing all the people were outisde? I mean, it made no sense at all even for Jack Bauer.
yeah. that was easily the worst moment in the entire series. UNLESS it turns out next week that Jack was working with the Russians all along because he wanted to get back at everyone for constantly doubting him despite his record of saving the US at least 5 times and the Russian they're tracking down is a decoy and they beat Jack up to make it look like he has real sensitive information (ala beating up that other guy at the beginning of the season so he'd look like a terrorist) so when he leads ctu to the desert they'll be effed.
I kept waiting for Jack Bauer to take Rainman with him to Vegas and count cards.
Yeah, a friend of mine sent me a text message halfway through the episode that said, "M-O-O-N. That spells who the fuck is this kid?"
And was that Brian Krakow as Rain Man's brother?
all i have to say is...
THANK CHRIST!
it's like, the writers knew how much everybody was hating EVERYTHING. I LOVE that they're just COMPLETELY changing the entire season. all they need to do now is have jack be like, "i need to call somebody to help me out" and have tony show up like in season 4. and just kill off milo and that lame muslim chick who think they're the next tony and michelle. soooo glad they ditched stupid fucking fayed and all the baggage that went with it. AHAHAHAHA! i'm so happy. i was so close to not watching altogether, and then they pull this on us. guess they have a few tricks up their sleeve after all.
i think my favourite part was the Cape Fear ref. and Jack not knowing where the heck he was as a result. and the Chinese encore.
It was great... another failed attempt to get the bombs would have been horrible and just thinking of the rest of the season retrieving the suitcases was a nightmare... they did great!!!
I was hoping that, with The Nine being cancelled, they would bring Kim Raver's Audrey back. I really liked her character and think she and Jack make a great couple.
So how about this shit? Daddy Bauer is back...
I wonder what is the real purpose behind attacking CTU because he could have waited a couple of more hours to get the kid without security. I dont know why go into all that trouble just to get him at this particular crisis hour. Why negotiate with Chang something that he could have done on his own without Chang's men?
'24' renewed for 2 more days
The clock on "24" will continue ticking for two more seasons.
Fox has renewed the Emmy-winning real-time drama starring Kiefer Sutherland through the 2008-09 season.
Sutherland is already locked to stay with the show through 2009 under his multi-year production deal with "24" producer 20th Century Fox TV.
"24" has had a roller-coaster ride the past couple of seasons, earning rave reviews for season five, which was capped by a best drama series Emmy and drawing criticism by some fans for the plotline in the current sixth season.
Created by Joel Surnow and Robert Cochran, "24" is a production of Real Time Productions and Imagine Television in association with 20th Century Fox Television.
Joel Surnow, Robert Cochran, Howard Gordon, Evan Katz, Jon Cassar, Kiefer Sutherland and Brian Grazer are the executive producers.
SPOILAZ
Quote from: bonanzataz on April 11, 2007, 04:10:29 PMkill off milo
check... :yabbse-thumbup:
yeah, so i'm really happy that they brought audrey back so's that jack can't see her anymore (everything you touch ends up dead, one way or another, HA! that was fucking harsh heller!). it's like, the writers had this amazing thing going for them and they were just like, "eh, fuck it, let's just bring back some stupid shit from the beginning of this lame ass season and call it a day. fuck the fans! hahaha, pass the caviar!"
i don't get what the fuck they're doing. they tease their core audience with the promise of a great storyline and just fuck it up. cheng is a great villain and he is sorely underused. why substitute cheng and audrey for jack's dad and his boring nephew? WHY?! EVERYTHING WAS IN PLACE FOR A GREAT ENDING!!!
whatever, season 7 better be stellar.
why did they ever kill off nina?
Quote from: bonanzataz on May 17, 2007, 02:55:44 AM
why did they ever kill off nina?
Yeah! And I want Mia Kirshner back too.
david palmer is the one i miss the most... and mike novick too... these new white house people make me sick
also, they keep doing this thing lying to jack so that he cant interfere with stupid decisions from the white house... the episode was ok but the last scene is proof of how poorly executed everything was...
at least its clear that they admit the show is not what it used to be and they are preparing for a do-over... lets just hope they do something good.
and seeing rena sofer playing a stupid wife in 2 shows that are monday at 9pm bothers me... like there werent enough actors out there for those crappy parts.
Quote from: kal on May 18, 2007, 01:28:49 AM
and seeing rena sofer playing a stupid wife in 2 shows that are monday at 9pm bothers me
Quote from: JG on May 09, 2007, 07:05:13 PM
you watch too much television.
Quote from: Pubrick on May 18, 2007, 01:58:09 AM
Quote from: kal on May 18, 2007, 01:28:49 AM
and seeing rena sofer playing a stupid wife in 2 shows that are monday at 9pm bothers me
Quote from: JG on May 09, 2007, 07:05:13 PM
you watch too much television.
heroes and 24 are two of the best shows... if you dont watch them u should
i stopped watching 24 when it got too ridiculous and i'm with pwaybloe on heroes.
Quote from: Pubrick on May 18, 2007, 10:19:19 AM
i stopped watching 24 when it got too ridiculous
So...you've never seen 24 then.
I stopped watching 24 several episodes ago and I can't be arsed to catch up.
dude... 24 and Heroes are not more ridiculous than Lost or The Office, or watching Spider Man movies... its just entertainment. If I was looking for reality and everything making perfect sense, I would not look for it on TV (I cant even get things to make sense in my real life anyhow sometimes).
I work a lot, and I hardly get any sleep, so if watching Jack Bauer do some crazy shit for 45 minutes every week makes me clear my head at night, thats what I do.
yeah, i don't know what you're on about.
the joke was that you were watching two shows at the same time and that it qualified as too much tv.
but for the record i'm not one to talk.
thats the beauty of dvr and downloads :)
what a blah season altogether. they really fucked this one up. let's hope when surnow says he's gonna totally revamp the series, it doesn't mean he's gonna add a bunch of characters nobody cares about and make jack a supporting player like they did this fucking season.
Compared to other seasons it sucked, but it had some good moments.
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The finale was like everything else very predictable. Some of the highlights:
- Buchanan coming to the rescue big time. Then shooting bad guys and piloting the helicopter. Good stuff. Also, why the hell does a 50+ year old married guy who works at CTU have a pick-up truck? No idea.
- Jack's daddy is alive and we all know it. We never saw his body, or him explode, and he was sitting there alive with a boat right next to him. Easy call. He also has the component, so I'm sure that will come back (or not).
- It bothered me not to see Kim, or any of the other characters whose status is now unknown: Charles Logan, Martha Logan and Aaron, President Palmer, etc.
- The final scene was excellent for me. After everything, it was too much for another cliffhanger or threat on Jacks life. I mean, the fucking guy hasnt slept on his bed or had a decent meal in like 2 years. Let him stare at the sunset for five minutes and think about his fucking life. We'll see where that brings us next season and the changes they will do to the show.
i wish they'd let me write the entire next season. that way, i'd watch the show again.
'24' crystal ball: Female president
Source: Hollywood Reporter
In what could become a self-fulfilling prophecy, producers on Fox's drama "24" are contemplating a female president on the show next season, sources said. The real-time drama's upcoming seventh season will coincide with the peak in the Democratic Party's presidential race that might see Hillary Clinton as the first woman nominated by a major political party for the top political office.
"24" has been popular among Washington's elite, and at TV Land's upfront presentation in May Clinton's husband, former president Bill Clinton, who has been involved in his wife's presidential campaign, listed "24" among his favorite shows "even though an uber-right-wing guy writes it." He was referring to "24" co-creator Joel Surnow, an outspoken Republican.
While "24" broke ground introducing the first black president on a TV series (Dennis Haysbert), the show would not be the first to have a female president. In the past few years, ABC's "Commander in Chief" and Fox's "Prison Break" both featured women in the Oval Office. Sources stressed that no final decision has been made on the role of the president next season and that the "24" creative team ultimately might opt to go in another direction.
sources tell me that it's either gonna be karen hayes or some dumb bitch who can't make decisions for herself and is constantly fucking up jack's plans. or both.
either would be boring and predictable like all of last season. i hope i'm so wrong.
sorry for the double post, but i relayed the rumor of a female president to my 24 watching buddy and he immediately came back with, "what if it was martha logan?!" the concept got me laughing pretty hard. if only...
If Karen Hayes is president I quit 24.
I read that Peter McNiccol is not coming back... which sucks.
I have no idea who is back and who is not... but Karen Hayes would be terrible as President... I would love to have Buchanan back though
the president should be jack bauer.
end of series.
Ideally they would set next season after a nuke goes off that destroys most of the world's population. Jack Bauer not only has to work to restore the government with himself as president but he must also fend off a group, led by Kim and the cougar, that is bent on terrorizing the remaining survivors.
Anything less ridiculous and I'm not going to bother to watch.
The real stupid fact at this point is that every season is like 1 or 2 years apart, or in some cases more. Considering that its been at least 10-12 years since Jack Bauer lost his wife... he also should be like 50+ and at the way technology is going things should be a little more advanced.
I mean, there are a lot of inconsistencies and shit that is wrong with the story and the show at this point...
The best thing they could do is have Season 7 be a prequel of Season 1. Bring EVERYBODY BACK. Nina, Terri, David Palmer, Tony, etc... Show some other aspect or some other story that was referred to us at some point before... Kim, which is much older to play her part, could be at summer camp or something. That would be actually awesome.
Quote from: kal on June 30, 2007, 03:23:31 PMThe best thing they could do is have Season 7 be a prequel of Season 1. Bring EVERYBODY BACK. Nina, Terri, David Palmer, Tony, etc... Show some other aspect or some other story that was referred to us at some point before... Kim, which is much older to play her part, could be at summer camp or something. That would be actually awesome.
OR take advantage of the name of the show and just have 24 hours of something else. do a film noir.
or a porno
Season 7 info:
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Exclusive-24-Plot/800018254
Jones moves into '24' Oval Office
Source: Hollywood Reporter
Cherry Jones has been appointed president on the upcoming season of "24," sources said.
The network wouldn't confirm, but sources said Jones has come on board the real-time thriller, the first major casting addition to the show's upcoming seventh season.
"24" producers had been contemplating having a female president next season for some time.
Their decision to go for it adds another wrinkle to the closely watched Democratic Party's presidential race, in which Hillary Clinton is the frontrunner.
Production of the 20th Century Fox TV/Imagine TV-produced "24" was recently delayed until August when a set-in-Africa storyline fell through and the producers went back to the drawing board.
Jones' feature credits include "Ocean's Twelve" and "The Village."
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'24' production clock stopped
Source: Hollywood Reporter
The seventh season of Fox's Emmy-winning "24" is facing another production delay.
The real-time drama starring Kiefer Sutherland that was scheduled to start filming Aug. 27, will now begin shooting Sept. 10 so that the writers can complete enough scripts for the new seasonlong plot.
Production start on 20th Century Fox TV/Imagine TV's "24" originally was pushed from late July-early August to Aug. 27 when the producers' original set-in-Africa story line fell through and they went back to the drawing board.
There has been only one new casting on the show so far -- Cherry Jones as the U.S. president -- with a couple of other deals at different stages.
"24" is going through a major revamping this year after coming off a lackluster sixth season.
Janeane Garofalo on 24 - TV Guide
No, Ashton Kutcher has not commandeered my keyboard, and no, this is not a really early April Fool's Day gag: Funny lady Janeane Garofalo is joining the cast of 24.
Although details of the casting are few and far between at this point, what I can tell you is this: 1) Come fall, she'll be a regular, 2) her character will be an FBI agent, and 3) since the comedienne's persona often brings to mind Mary Lynn Rajskub's prickly Chloe, the potential for on-screen fireworks is greater than it has been during any of the show's previous bomb threats.
For that matter, there's a good chance that there will be a few explosions behind the scenes, too, since the Ben Stiller Show alumna is legendarily liberal, and 24's executive producer, Joel Surnow, is notoriously conservative.
24 Resets Clock for Day 7 on Jan. 13
Source: Fox
The innovative, addictive, Emmy Award-winning television series "24" resets the clock for Season Seven with a special two-night premiere event Sunday, Jan. 13 (8:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) and Monday, Jan. 14 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on Fox.
In keeping with Fox's commitment to airing original programming year-round, the intense season will unfold in "24's" regular 9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT time period beginning Monday, Jan. 14, and will continue to air all originals all season into June.
"Day 7" of "24" will continue the show's unique and trend-setting format with compelling new elements. With CTU dismantled, the show's setting moves to Washington, DC, where Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) faces trial for his actions in the pursuit of justice. Bauer's day gets off to a shocking start when former colleague Tony Almeida (Carlos Bernard), last seen in "Day 5," returns after being left for dead by a terrorist conspirator in CTU's infirmary.
"Tony's uncertain fate near the end of 'Day 5' left the door open for his return," said executive producer/show-runner Howard Gordon. "And since there was no silent clock at the conclusion of his last appearance the '24' tribute to a major character's demise we always kept this as a possibility."
Bernard's return highlights a list of notable cast members clocking in for Season Seven, including the previously announced Cherry Jones as President Allison Taylor and Janeane Garofalo as FBI Agent Janis Gold. Colm Feore will play First Gentleman Henry Taylor and Bob Gunton is White House Chief of Staff Ethan Kanin.
FBI Agents assigned to the team investigating the crisis befalling Bauer include Garofalo's Agent Gold in addition to Annie Wersching as Agent Renee Walker, Jeffrey Nordling as Agent Larry Moss and Rhys Coiro as Agent Sean Hillinger. John Billingsley portrays security specialist Michael Latham. Although CTU is no longer, Chloe O'Brian (Mary Lynn Rajskub) and Bill Buchanan (James Morrison) are back for another momentous day of shocking events.
Wow... they talked about Tony being back but they also said it was not going to happen. I read Michelle is back as well.
Fuck... Washington DC?
All this sounds like shit...
Also... isnt it clear by now this guy saved the country and lost his life doing it? Why the fuck is he on trial? They make the point that America is stupid and bureaucratic, but its too much cause they keep repeating it also.
Quote from: kal on September 20, 2007, 01:51:29 AM
Wow... they talked about Tony being back but they also said it was not going to happen. I read Michelle is back as well.
YEAH! if they bring back tony and michelle i will weep tears of joy, even if the show sucks like last season.
Arrest clouds '24' future
Source: Hollywood Reporter
Kiefer Sutherland's Tuesday morning arrest is not expected to affect production on his Fox drama series "24" for now, but the show faces an uncertain future as the actor's arrest violates a five-year probation, something that might send him to jail for up to a year.
The show's Emmy-winning star and executive producer was arrested early Tuesday on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol after having attended a Fox party kicking off the network's fall season.
Sources said Sutherland drove straight from the set of "24" to the party, which took place at hotspot Area, and was offered a company limo service but declined.
Sutherland, who was on probation from a similar 2004 conviction, was stopped by police just after 1 a.m. after making an illegal U-turn in West Hollywood just a few blocks from Area, authorities said. After failing a field sobriety test, he spent three hours in jail before posting $25,000 bail and being released a little before 6 a.m.
Sutherland's overnight jail stay didn't interfere with his duties on "24." The series is in production on its seventh season, but the actor was not scheduled to work Tuesday. He is scheduled to go back to work Wednesday.
Sutherland tested over the state's legal blood alcohol limit of 0.08% and is scheduled to appear in court Oct. 16, police said. As of Tuesday afternoon, the city attorney's office had not received the police report or filed charges.
A rep for Sutherland said that "it would be premature to comment at this time."
A misdemeanor DUI count would carry a maximum sentence of a year in jail, though Sutherland also could face a charge of violating probation. In November 2004, Sutherland pleaded no contest to one misdemeanor count of driving under the influence and is serving a 60-month probation. Before that, he had a 1993 conviction for alcohol-related reckless driving.
It is not clear how a possible jail time would affect production of "24," which is in the first year of a two-season pickup.
Who needs Jack when you've got Zombie Tony?
From cnn.com
Kiefer Sutherland sentenced to 48 days.
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Kiefer Sutherland was sentenced Wednesday to 48 days in jail for racking up a second drunken-driving arrest in three years and immediately reported to a city lockup.
The star of the Fox TV drama "24" was being processed at the Glendale city jail, said Officer John Balian.
Sutherland, 40, who pleaded no contest in October to driving with a blood-alcohol level above the legal limit of .08, appeared in court with his attorney and politely answered the judge's questions, said Assistant City Attorney Dan Jeffries.
His request to serve his time at the Glendale city jail was granted and he was ordered to complete the sentence by March 30, Jeffries said.
"Kiefer made the decision to surrender to custody immediately," his attorney, Blair Berk, told The Associated Press.
He could have waited as late as February 12.
The actor was already on probation for a 2004 drunken-driving arrest when he was stopped by police as he left a Hollywood industry party at the trendy Area nightclub on September 25. Authorities said he failed a field sobriety test after being pulled over for making an illegal U-turn.
Sutherland had also pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor DUI charge in 2004. He was sentenced in that case to five years' probation, 50 hours of community service and ordered to attend an alcohol treatment program. Authorities said he fulfilled the community service and alcohol treatment obligations.
He was also convicted of alcohol-related reckless driving in 1993, according to the city attorney's office.
"I'm very disappointed in myself for the poor judgment I exhibited recently, and I'm deeply sorry for the disappointment and distress this has caused my family, friends and co-workers," Sutherland said in a statement issued after he entered his plea in the latest case.
Sutherland, who plays dashing federal counterterrorism agent Jack Bauer on "24," won an Emmy for best actor last year.
Under the terms of his plea, he also must serve five years of probation, pay a $510 fine, enroll in an 18-month alcohol-education class and attend weekly alcohol-therapy sessions for six months, Jeffries said.
He could have been sentenced to as much as a year and a half in jail if convicted.
Sutherland will serve his sentence at Glendale city jail, but under a county jail inmate program because of overcrowding, Jeffries said. He must serve all 48 days.
The Glendale jail is a minimum security facility with 48 cells, each of them measuring 10 feet by 8 feet. They come equipped with two beds, a toilet, washbasin and water fountain, but Sutherland won't be sharing his cell with anyone.
"Anyone here for a long period of time will get their own cell," Balian said.
The actor is classified as an "inmate worker" and will be required to perform duties in the laundry room and help prepare food for inmates in the kitchen area.
"He'll be working here for 48 days," Balian said.
Sutherland will also have access to an outdoor area and be allowed two visitors per day.
That's two seasons of 24: Oz.
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P2ISION BRE4K
Surnow leaving '24'
Co-creator and producer exits to focus on new projects
Source: Hollywood Reporter
"24" co-creator/executive producer Joel Surnow is leaving the Emmy-winning Fox drama.
Surnow's departure is effective immediately. He served as an executive producer on the first eight episodes of the real-time thriller's seventh season that were produced before and into the strike but will not be creatively involved in the remaining 16 episodes, slated to begin filming shortly.
Surnow's overall deal with "24" producer 20th Century Fox TV was up April 30. This week, the writer-producer asked the studio to release him early, and it agreed.
Instead of signing a show deal to continue providing services on "24," Surnow decided to go for "a clean break" and leave altogether to focus on new projects. ("24" co-creator/executive producer Robert Cochran's overall pact with 20th TV also expired last year, but he continues to work on the series.)
Surnow began contemplating an exit from "24" in the summer, when the show was starting production on Season 7, but made the final decision during the strike.
"I did some soul-searching," Surnow said. "I took it as an opportunity to write on my own and do other things."
Surnow said he is not sure what exactly he will do next, but one thing is certain: "24" will be a tough act to follow.
"After doing '24,' I don't know if I want to do a mainstream show again," he said. "I like what's going on in cable; there is an opportunity to stretch dramatically there, which is something I'm trying to do."
As for his departure, Surnow said it was hard to leave the show that had been "a life- and career-changing experience" but knowing that "24" was in "the capable hands of Howard Gordon" made it easier. Gordon has run "24" since Season 6.
Fox on Tuesday praised Surnow and left the door open for him to be involved with the show in the future. "Joel created one of the landmark series of this decade in '24', and his contribution to its creative excellence over the years has been immeasurable," Fox said. "His input will always be welcome."
In the past couple of years, Surnow has been shepherding other projects on the side, including the Fox News Channel series "The 1?2 Hour News Hour."
Last year, Surnow, Cochran and Gordon developed and produced three pilots through their banner Real Time Prods., which will no longer exist because the principals won't be under the same roof anymore.
The openly conservative Surnow, who jokingly labeled himself a "right-wing nut job," has been the most visible of the masterminds behind "24."
He hasn't shied from speaking his mind and made headlines in November when he said: "Are we nuts thinking Hillary Clinton could be president of this country? Honest to God, just stand back and think about it."
Ironically, the upcoming seventh season of "24," slated to debut in January 2009, features the first female U.S. president, played by Cherry Jones.
Oh, it's gonna be even worse now. They should just run season 3 again. Never got better than that.
'24' prequel set
Two-hour TV movie to bridge gap between Seasons 6 and 7
Source: Hollywood Reporter
Fox's "24" will be returning in the fall, after all.
The producers of the Emmy-winning series are developing a two-hour "prequel" to the upcoming seventh season.
The movie, designed to bridge the two-year gap between Seasons 6 and 7, is targeted to air in the fall, leading to the January return of the real-time drama. On Wednesday, "24" producers began securing the show's core cast members for the film.
"24" was one of the biggest casualties of the writers strike. Three days into the work stoppage, Fox decided against airing a partial season of the serialized drama with the eight episodes produced before and during the first weeks of the strike.
Each season of "24" is a closed arc that takes place in real time over a 24-hour period. The upcoming seventh season is set in Washington and features the first female U.S. president, played by Cherry Jones.
At the end of the writers strike, there were rumblings about a possible split of the seventh season into two parts to air in the fall and in midseason. But Fox was quick to put those rumors to rest, reiterating that the show's scheduling pattern will remain intact with a January launch.
The "24" writing team is back at work, with filming on the remaining episodes of the seventh season slated to begin in April. Missing from the writers room is the series co-creator/executive producer Joel Surnow, who left at the end of the strike. Since the fifth season, "24" has been run by exec producer Howard Gordon.
Fox and 20th Century Fox TV, which produces the series with Imagine TV, declined comment Wednesday.
Jon Voight joins '24'
Will play the villain in the seventh season
Source; Hollywood Reporter
In his first series role in 40 years, Jon Voight has signed on for the upcoming seventh season of "24."
On the Emmy-winning Fox drama, Voight will play Jack Bauer's (Kiefer Sutherland) uber-nemesis who is pulling the strings behind next season's terrorist threat.
The character will be introduced during "24's" two-hour Season 7 prequel and will be featured heavily in the latter half of the season.
The prequel, now shooting on location in South Africa, is slated to air Nov. 23, with Season 7 of the Imagine TV/20th TV-produced series kicking off in January.
The tapping of Voight marks the first A-list villain casting on "24" since Season 1 when Dennis Hopper appeared in the final episodes as Serbian nationalist Victor Drazen.
Voight did several TV guest spots early in his career -- including a three-episode stint on "Gunsmoke" between 1966-69 -- until his movie career exploded with "Midnight Cowboy" in 1969.
A four-time Academy Award nominee, Voight won the best actor Oscar for 1978's "Coming Home." He recently reprised his role as Nicolas Cage's father in "National Treasure: Book of Secrets."
Clock is Set for the Return of 24
Source: Fox
"24," the Emmy Award-winning series starring Kiefer Sutherland, will premiere with a special two-night, four-hour event Sunday, Jan. 11 and Monday, Jan. 12 (8:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on Fox. The series, returning for its seventh season, celebrates its milestone 150th episode during the fourth hour of the not-to-be-missed two-night premiere.
Making its time period premiere Monday, Jan. 19 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT), "24" will unfold without interruption through the season finale in May. Set in Washington, D.C., "Day Seven" opens with CTU dismantled and Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) on trial. Bauer's day takes an unexpected turn when former colleague Tony Almeida (Carlos Bernard) returns after being presumed dead. Meanwhile, President Allison Taylor (Cherry Jones) leads the country alongside White House Chief of Staff Ethan Kanin (Bob Gunton) and First Gentleman Henry Taylor (Colm Feore). An unthinkable national security crisis prompts an investigation by a team of FBI agents including Agent Janis Gold (Janeane Garofalo), Agent Renee Walker (Annie Wersching), Agent Larry Moss (Jeffrey Nordling), Agent Sean Hillinger (Rhys Coiro) and security specialist Michael Latham (John Billingsley). Although CTU no longer exists, Chloe O'Brian (Mary Lynn Rajskub) and Bill Buchanan (James Morrison) are back for another momentous day of shocking events.
Setting the stage for these events is "24: Redemption," the two-hour television event shot on location in South Africa and Los Angeles that bridges the gap between Seasons Six and Seven. Airing Sunday, Nov. 23 (8:00-10:00 PM ET/PT), "24: Redemption" finds Bauer working at a school in Africa where he is called upon to stop a ruthless warlord from drafting innocent children into his murderous militia. At home, it's inauguration day for the President-elect, but a malevolent mastermind Jonas Hodges (Jon Voight) works behind the scenes to fan the flames of the growing international crisis.
So not a bad start to the new season. I'm sure it won't take too much to get Jack back to kickin' ass since for now they are setting up all the storylines. I like his partner; they're a good match, and Tony Almeida as a villian is awesome.
OK I'm watching this now... I'm just 15 minutes into the season until something hit me like fucking lighting...
WHAT THE FUCK IS BILLY WALSH, AKA WALLY BALLS DOING THERE AT THE NEW CTU OR WHATEVER THAT IS????
CRAZY CASTING... took me a few minutes to realize it was him!!!!!!!!
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Just saw the first 4 eps., it has started pretty good, I knew Tony couldn't be a bad guy. lol moment from this season so far, tony apologizing to jack and vice versa while ALL the fucking FBI is looking for them.
yeah wtf with wally balls, it seems like the same character of entourage, sans the cursing, he's still an asshole, also krazee-eyez killa is there as well as Phil letoardo's shooter.
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SILENT CLOCK! WHAT! SHE'S DEAD! JESUS!
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yep, what the hell was that, but no way she's dead, yes she has some dirt on her but not much, as soon as they leave you'll see she gets up.
anyway, i really like this season a lot, by far the best we've seen since season 2, S1 still the best.
This is really a good season. My expectations were super low and I forgot how much fun this show still is. Even if its not as good as the first seasons.
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She ain't dead. 100% alive.
The first husband storyline is kinda boring but I'm curious to see how it unfolds now.
How awesome is to have Bill and Chloe back. Too bad they were not in this last episode. I'm also trying to remember from last season, what ever happened with Bill's wife? Were they separated or she died or what the hell?
so engaging this year....that FBI agent is gorgeous I wanna fuck her...thats a little over the top mikey (my real name)....I want to see more Jon Voight. I'm high on some heavy sugar and had three shots of tequila just now....But nothing could beat that opening of season one.
The 'first gentleman' is a moron... if they wanted to make the madame president like Hilary they should have made the guy more like Bill and not this pathetic douche... he is ruining the episodes so far.
The end of this past hour was kinda funny, which is unusual for 24.
Maybe they were getting tired of inspiring the methods of torture used at Gitmo.
Good article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/feb/02/kiefer-sutherland-interview-tv-film
When Bill Buchanan is prepping the Matobo double, you can see an out-of-focus MacGuffin as a secret service agent in the far background. Then again by the door when they walk outside to the limosine.
Shit, makes me wish I still watched this show.
I have no clue if this show is any good anymore, but I'm having lots of fun with this season. Most importantly, they seem to realize that we (the fans) want to see some familiar faces other than all these new idiots, so they are giving us what they want.
First Tony Almeida, then Bill and Chloe, and now we even get Morris and Aaron! This is awesome. Too bad David Palmer is dead, but fuck, if they could bring Tony Almeida back from the death they can do the same with him. I know the stupid daughter is coming back at some point this season, and I think she is not even hot anymore. Who else is there left? The disgusting ex-president Logan is probably around somewhere, and so is the autistic Audrey Raines.
Fucking Billy Walsh is still there. Not for long I assume.
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Quote from: kal on February 17, 2009, 02:38:23 AM
Who else is there left? The disgusting ex-president Logan is probably around somewhere, and so is the autistic Audrey Raines.
Logan is dead isn't it? His ex wife stab him last season I think.
I do like this season too and imo it's the best since S1 and S2.
We've seen 9 hours so far, so I guess this mutombo situation should wrap up sooner than later, I guess then they will track the moles in the white house and everywhere else, I hope when the daughter shows up it doesn't get stupid.
Yeah if I remember correctly John Voight is "the man behind the man" this season, so at some point he will show up and become the main villain. Also, I read that next episode we see yet another of our fave characters return. I'm thinking who is left besides the ones we mentioned before.
Logan is not dead. The wife stabbed him and he was rushed to the hospital and we never saw him again. If I recall something was mentioned about him during a Jack/Tony conversation about Michelle earlier in the season. The fuck is alive and I hope Tony kills him personally.
hmm I was pretty sure that at some point it was mentioned he died in the ambulance...
I don't recall that, but remeber 24 is the one show where nobody is dead until you see a dead body.
ACTUALLY, even if you see a body, he may come back to life like Tony :yabbse-grin:
wikipedia under Charles Logan:
After Season 6
FBI agent Renee Walker revealed to Jack Bauer in the first hour of Day 7 that Logan is still alive, and continues to live under house arrest at his ranch.
gotta be a setup. i totally missed that.
This season is pretty damn cool and I was happy to see Sean in custody. He was such a fucking douche bag. He and Erica.
Spoils 4 last night's 2 eps.So the white house is the easiest place to take over now, ill keep watching but damn, what are they gonna do for the final season? ill go with ravi's idea...
Quote from: Ravi on March 23, 2006, 01:08:39 AM
The last season, whenever that may be, should be on another planet.
Jack: Alright, Timbloajmakragh, what are your demands?
Timbloajmakragh: I want full immunity, in writing, signed by the President.
is this the final season then? i haven't been paying attention to the news or anything..
anyway, great season. i remember thinking the first 4 were good and that it sagged season 5 and 6. but this one's hot.
Quote from: Cinephile on March 04, 2009, 02:18:09 AM
is this the final season then? i haven't been paying attention to the news or anything..
Nope..
End In Sight For Hit Show 2416 January 2009 4:05 AM, PST | From wenn.com
Kiefer Sutherland's groundbreaking TV drama 24 is set to end after season eight - paving the way for a big screen adaptation.
The cult series, in which Sutherland stars as federal agent Jack Bauer, is currently in its seventh season.
And executive producer Howard Gordon intends to axe it after one more series - but only to enable him to make a big-budget movie version.
He says, "My hope is to go after the eighth season. That's sort of what we're aiming for. I don't think that a big-screen 24 works while Jack is on TV."
And Sutherland has warned fans not to expect a happy ending for his character.
He says, "I see Jack as a really human figure and there is something innately tragic about people. I think there is no winning. We're all going to die. There's something kind of sad in that, and yet there's something really beautiful and hopeful."
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Poor Bill. He was a great character, but I guess he had his cycle and that is as good as a dead as you can get on 24. Being a hero and saving the President. What I hate is how little recognition they gave him. The bitch didn't even know he was the one who saved her ass. Same goes with that douche Moss and Jack. Damnit!
I liked the preview from next week, where Jack sneaks into Red Forman's apartment and he shits his pants.
I was sad about Bill. The vice president and moss are douchebags. The president's daughter is such a fox, so gorgeous. Thats all I got to say at the moment.
'24' Film Could Take Place in Europe, Says Kiefer Sutherland
Source: MTV
The long anticipated "24" movie that Kiefer Sutherland is locked in for and Elisha Cuthbert "would love to be in" may get off the ground yet, and if the blockbuster TV series' star is to be believed, it may require a European vacation to film. The suspense-soaked action show will have to rethink its real-time hour-per-episode hook for the big-screen transition, but they may just be able to fast forward through 21 hours and chalk it up to Jack Bauer's jet-lag-induced nap if he has to hop continents for the story.
"It's something that we've always talked about because I think the fantastic thing about Europe, for something like '24,' is that it's very feasible to get from Prague to London in the course of a day," Sutherland told Digital Spy.
"24" has always had an international scope dealing with constant time-bomb scenarios in a post-9/11 world, but a romp into Europe would certainly give Bauer a few added plot obstacles, operating off of his native U.S. soil.
Sutherland appeared confident anticipating the film's production, commenting outside the premier of his new film
"It's just a question of when we're actually going to make the movie," he stated.
It's too bad there isn't a countdown clock running to let us all known exactly when that will be.
Kiefer Sutherland on what's ahead for 24, including a movie?
Source: Sci Fi Wire
Kiefer Sutherland, star of Fox's 24, told reporters that the majority of next season's episodes will be completed by the time it airs. "We're starting in May this year instead of August," Sutherland said on Friday. "We will have finished, I think, 22 episodes by the time it goes to air."
Sutherland spoke about 24's new season during a press conference last week in Los Angeles while promoting his upcoming 3-D animated film Monsters vs. Aliens. He said that the show found a comfortable creative rhythm only after the production was faced with many different kinds of challenges. "I think at any given moment we need to stop and figure something out, we've afforded ourselves that time. I don't know why it took us seven years to figure that out, and a writers' strike, but we have."
In addition to discussing the immediate future of the series, Sutherland discussed the effect of the writers' strike on the show and addressed the prospect of a film version of Jack Bauer's adventures. The following is an edited version of the press conference. 24 airs Mondays at 9 p.m. ET/PT.
This season has been incredibly successful. How much was the production of the show affected by the writers' strike, and could that change things going forward?
Sutherland: As much as the writers' strike was a difficult time for everybody, there were some benefits for us. We had 15 months to shoot what we normally shoot in 10, and we certainly got hit for it quite hard in season six. But it's been a difficulty we've had from the very first season on. It's a three-act play for us, so each eight episodes kind of transitions us into another story, and some of those transition points have been really sticky for us. Because of the fact that we were about at episode 16 or 17, and they just shut down, they were having a hard time with that transition. They just stopped, and they took that three weeks and they figured something out, and it was very technical. It was not character-driven, it was not dialogue-driven, but it was a structural entity that led us into that last transition in the final eight episodes. We would not have had that time, and historically never had that kind of time specifically at that time of the season, which was of a huge benefit for us.
Were you concerned that the viewers would move on?
Sutherland: Well, they did. They have moved on. If you take a look, television as a medium has lost 40 percent of its viewership. I was aware of the terrible ramifications from Major League Baseball after it went on strike. National Hockey League went on strike, and it was replaced by f--king poker, and poker did better. You can't find a hockey game now, so, yeah, I was terrified. The fact that we were able to come back and managed to do the same numbers that we had been doing in previous years, you have no idea the relief.
Do you think that there will be a time when Jack Bauer will be a movie hero, or the star of an animated series?
Sutherland: I've never thought about an animated series. We thought that it would be cruel and unusual punishment to ask the writers to write, in the course of 10 months, the equivalent of 12 films, and in their off times, "By the way, if you have a great idea for a feature film that's so special, write that as well." We've kind of collectively agreed that we would entertain the idea of a film when the series was finished, and if people still wanted to see something like that. We would be really excited to do that, because the format that we would make the movie in, because we have discussed it, would be a two-hour representation of a 24-hour day, so we would lose the real-time aspect, which would be a huge freedom for the writers. But it's something we would not even start to do until the series was finished.
i remember reading something from at least a couple years ago where it was sort of a Rules of 24. it was this really funny list of patterns from the series and stuff like that. anyone know where i can find that?
I remember that, found this but I'm not sure it's the one you're talking about...
http://www.notrly.com/jackbauer/index.php?topthirty
edit: just read it, pretty sure it's not the one you're talking about :yabbse-undecided: damn, now I too want to see that, don't fail us xixax and find it, NOW!
btw, still watching and it's the first time I don't do it on dvd, it's a damn nightmare to see this show on a weekly basis...
Hey, look! It's 24, the pro-torture show. Another crap-tastic display of some of the most corny acting I've ever seen with the most contrived, ridiculous plot scenarios since 'Point Break'.
Dear admins, you know I'm a very tolerant person and love to joke around. I also have not asked for anything ever before.
BAN THIS FUCKER. Thank you!
Quote from: kal on April 01, 2009, 09:15:47 PM
Dear admins, you know I'm a very tolerant person and love to joke around. I also have not asked for anything ever before.
BAN THIS FUCKER. Thank you!
yeah, really.
Hey, April fools. You guys dish but sure can't take.
Anil Kapoor joins Fox's '24'
Bollywood star in first U.S. TV gig
In his first American TV gig, "Slumdog Millionaire" co-star Anil Kapoor has joined Fox's drama "24" as a regular on the show's upcoming eighth season.
He will play a Middle Eastern leader who comes to the U.S. on a peacemaking mission.
A Bollywood icon who has appeared in more than 100 films in his native India, Kapoor received a worldwide recognition for playing game show host Prem Kumar in the Oscar-winning "Slumdog Millionaire."
I just saw the latest episode and
God damn it Tony, I'm pissed and confused at Tony Almeida.
i think the only explanation is he's still a double agent working the bad guys. he knew whatshisface was going to die either way so he had to sell it to the goon. there's just no way he would successfully detonate the missiles if he wasn't really with the good guys.
I hope so because if not I will be pissed.
It was a pretty good episode. Good to have Kim back. That scene was heavy.
yeah, it was a great episode but it's a pretty lame twist to make almeida bad 'again', ill keep watching but to me that was really disappointing.
ill take a wild guess at how the next six hours will be, ill separate them in three segments:
- 1st two hours. almeida stays double agent, kim tries to save dad, jack's recovery under way.
- 2nd two hours. jack suspects of almeida, more white house confusion, kim might get in trouble by the end of the 4th hour.
- 3rd two hours. jack is totally recovered, almeida on the loose, country at highest stake, kim's future in danger, jack saves the day but...tee tum tee tum tee tum.
Quote from: Fernando on April 15, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
yeah, it was a great episode but it's a pretty lame twist to make almeida bad 'again', ill keep watching but to me that was really disappointing.
ill take a wild guess at how the next six hours will be, ill separate them in three segments:
- 1st two hours. almeida stays double agent, kim tries to save dad, jack's recovery under way.
- 2nd two hours. jack suspects of almeida, more white house confusion, kim might get in trouble by the end of the 4th hour.
- 3rd two hours. jack is totally recovered, almeida on the loose, country at highest stake, kim's future in danger, jack saves the day but...tee tum tee tum tee tum.
I agree with pretty much everything there.
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I read an interview with Carlos Bernard were apparently shows that he stays bad and it was not a simple twist, but something that was planned all the way into Season 8. Also, another article said that in Season 8, the setting will be NYC, and that CTU will be back under new management and with Chloe back in her old post.
Hope that hit comes back and bites the first daughter right on the ass for being a terrible character and bad acting.
She is gorgeous though. Was actually the sexiest of Claire's college room mates on 'six feet under'. Oh, Sprague, how I love thee.
Two clock in at '24'
Jennifer Westfeldt, John Boyd cast in real-time drama
Source: Hollywood Reporter
Jennifer Westfeldt and John Boyd have joined the cast of Fox's "24."
On the upcoming eighth season of the real-time drama, to be set in New York, "Kissing Jessica Stein" star Westfeldt will play the recurring role of Meredith Reed, an ambitious journalist with ties to Arman Hashemi (Anil Kapoor), a Middle East leader who comes to the U.S. on a peacemaking mission.
Boyd ("The Notorious Bettie Page") will be a regular on the 20th TV/Imagine series, playing CTU systems analyst Jonah Schwartz.
Westfeldt and Boyd join previously cast Kapoor and Chris Diamantopoulos as the "24" producers are filling nine major new roles for Season 8, slated to begin production today.
Westfeldt recently recurred on ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" and launched a production company with "Mad Men" star Jon Hamm.
Freddie Prinze Jr. joins '24'
Actor to play agent in Fox drama
Source: Hollywood Reporter
Freddie Prinze Jr. as Jack Bauer Jr.?
Sources said Prinze is joining the cast of Fox's "24" as a regular, playing Davis Cole, a recently returned Marine who runs CTU Field Ops and wants to follow in Jack Bauer's (Kiefer Sutherland) footsteps.
On the real-time drama, whose upcoming eighth season started production Wednesday, Prinze joins fellow new cast additions Anil Kapoor, who plays a Middle East leader; Chris Diamantopoulos, as the president's new chief of staff; and John Boyd as a CTU systems analyst. All of them are regulars, while Jennifer Westfeldt has come aboard as a recurring, playing a a journalist.
Also cast as a recurring on the 20th TV/Imagine series is Nazneen Contractor as Kapoor's daughter.
Prinze, repped by ICM and Brillstein, recently co-starred on the ABC comedy pilot "No Heroics."
Season 8 promo here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USg7oX-y3nc)
'24' headed to the bigscreen
Fox TV, film studios team on feature adaptation
Source: Variety
Twentieth Century Fox's film and TV studios are conspiring to finally bring hit television series "24" to the bigscreen.
The film side has hired scribe Billy Ray ("State of Play," "Flightplan") to pen the script for the feature version.
Ray's pitch, which takes Jack Bauer to Europe, was a hit with Fox execs and producers of the high-concept television series.
Ray also wrote and directed "Breach" and "Shattered Glass."
Script is said to have come through "24" star Kiefer Sutherland, who's also an exec producer on the series -- and is said to be eager to turn the long-running TV skein into a feature franchise.
Feature would be produced by the TV show's key exec producers, including Sutherland. Series was created by Robert Cochran and Joel Surnow, while exec producer Howard Gordon runs the show through his Real Time Prods. banner.
Brian Grazer's Imagine Entertainment, which produces the show along with 20th Century Fox TV, also would be involved.
Insiders cautioned that a "24" feature is still very much in the preliminary stages. There are a number of factors influencing how quickly it moves ahead, including the fate of the TV show.
Fox doesn't have a deal for a ninth season of "24" and hasn't yet decided whether to order another season. Insiders said the network is waiting to see this week's ratings before making a decision, but the betting is that this season will be the final one.
Even if Fox winds up passing on another year of "24," 20th Century Fox TV could shop the show to other nets. In that case, a feature might have to take a back seat.
The series' producers have been kicking around the possibility of a feature adaptation for several years and came close to moving ahead on one several years ago.
But the prospect of shooting a film while the show was still on the air was daunting for the cast and producers. Critics and fans of "24" have always enthused about how the show is produced like a feature -- and the film studio would want to move most of the "24" series crew to work on the film. That's difficult to do while "24" is in production, and hiatuses aren't nearly long enough to shoot a movie.
The show's producers did take advantage of the writers strike to make a TV movie, however: "24: Redemption," which aired prior to the show's seventh season in 2008, was nominated for five Emmys.
The allure of spinning a popular TV series into a bigscreen film is hard to ignore for studio execs, since there is a built-in audience and brand awareness; "24" has also been a mammoth hit for the studio in foreign markets, which suggests that a feature adaptation would travel well.
Fox saw big rewards from turning TV toon "The Simpsons" into a feature film. In 2007, "The Simpsons" grossed $183.1 million domestically and $343.9 million overseas for a worldwide cume of $527.1 million.
Studio saw strong returns when adapting TV series "The X-Files." Feature film "The X-Files," released in 1998 when the show was still on the air, grossed $83.9 million at the domestic B.O. and $105.3 million overseas for a total cume of $189.2 million.
The second outing wasn't nearly as successful, however. "The X-Files: I Want to Believe," released in 2008, six years after the series went off the air, grossed just $68.4 million worldwide.
'24′ return scoop: 12 episodes planned
Source: EW
With Kiefer Sutherland and Fox plotting the return of Jack Bauer, we're hearing some additional details about the plan.
You already figured this out, but now we can say with certainty: Touch isn't coming back for a third season. The mystical drama was shifted to Friday nights this season where it struggled in the ratings. Even without a 24 revival, it was considered pretty much dead in the water.
For 24 miniseries/limited series, we're hearing Fox is actually currently looking at a 12-episode order for the show. For a cable series, that's pretty much a full season (heck, for HBO's Game of Thrones, it's more than a full season). So that would be a pretty significant potential order to bring back Bauer.
Fox had no comment. Hopefully there will be clarity at the network's upfront presentation Monday.
Of course, a 12-episode order does raise the question: Will 24 continue in its real-time format, but just follow Bauer over the course of 12 hours? That would sort of botch the title, though, right? Or will Bauer face another 24-hour adventure, but the narrative will skip time? It would be great to see Bauer get on L.A.'s 405 freeway at the end of one episode and arrive at his destination two hours later at the start of the next episode — now that would be realistic action!
Mary Lynn Rajskub will return for '24: Live Another Day'
Source: Hitflix
What? You thought there was any chance that they were bringing back "24" wouldn't Chloe O'Brian?
For shame.
FOX announced on Thursday (August 1) morning that Mary Lynn Rajskub will return for the spring 2014 event series "24: Live Another Day."
Although it seems like grumpy-yet-brilliant computer analyst Chloe was always a part of the TV world, she only joined the show in the third season. By virtue of not dying, Chloe ended the series with the second most episodes of any "24" character, behind only Kiefer Sutherland's Jack Bauer.
Sutherland is, of course, also returning, as is executive producer Howard Gordon and a slew of other "24" veterans, including Evan Katz, Manny Coto, David Fury and director Jon Cassar.
"I am thrilled to be working with Howard and the writers again – and, of course, Kiefer!," blurbs Rajskub. "There's a lot more room to grow in my character...I'm going to start sharpening my computer skills now!"
Regarding "24: Live Another Day," FOX is only teasing that the story will pick up after the events of the finale, which aired on May 24, 2010. The real-time format will remain, but with hours skipped for Jack Bauer to nap and use the bathroom.
Quote from: Melville on September 04, 2013, 04:59:04 AM
Mary Lynn Rajskub will return for '24: Live Another Day'
Source: Hitflix
What? You thought there was any chance that they were bringing back "24" wouldn't Chloe O'Brian?
For shame.
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