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Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: CollinBullock on March 18, 2003, 03:02:15 PM
Okay, let's totally fucking geek ourselves out here.

What should criterion release on DVD?  It doesn't matter if they have teh rights, let's just think of movies that you personally would pay mucho dinero for criterion editions of? (for bonus point, list the desired special features)

Some of mine:

Trainspotting
Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind
Nirvana music video collection.
Ikiru
Chungking Express
Welcome To The Dollhouse
Bottle Rocket
Taxi Driver
The Hills Have Eyes

I could keep going, but I would rather let you guys go buck fucking geek wild on this one.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 18, 2003, 03:50:58 PM
EVERY Kubrick movie
Goodfellas and Casino


oh and

The Brave Little Toaster
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 18, 2003, 04:05:25 PM
some major works by Kubrick, not just the early stuff like The Killing of Paths of Glory which seem to have any kind of realistic chance these days of making it
more Luis Bunuel, completion of his 1970s french works and more early stuff.
anything from Max Ophuls.
More Yasijuo Ozu.
anything from Satiyat Ray.
more foreign language works from today that are very good but outside of the US market in popularity so really don't get distributation here at all.
they need to also convince some companies to give up on the films they have from early periods but are not touching for dvd release at all for some reason. So many early works are collecting dust when desired greatly by Criterion.
Also, some very early works by Scorsese could get released by Criterion. I know this was done on laser disc and both Scorsese and Criterion have an amazing work relationship so this actually could happen and very well may soon.
films:
City of God
La Dolce Vita
Persona
Hoop Dreams
The "Up" Documentaries
Shaoh
The Decalogue
The Double Life of Veronnique
L'Eclisse
Pandora's Box

~rougerum
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Tommy Both on March 18, 2003, 04:08:29 PM
-all the coen films ( :evil:  no reason to explain why )
-Jim Jarmusch's oeuvre (fuck man, Down By Law doublediscer was just the best criterion ive seen -till now that is..- )
-Takeshi Kitano's work (Hana-Bi / Sonatine / Dolls ; for sure the ones that deserve it)
-pdl (  :roll: )
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: life_boy on March 18, 2003, 05:02:25 PM
Well, this sounds fun so I'm just gonna let my imagination go on these.  I'd love to see some nice special (or Criterion) editions of some of these films.

The Fisher King featuring commentary track with director Terry Gilliam, deleted scenes, access to storyboards and production notes, a making-of featurette, a featurette on the Holy Grail and it's role in the cinema through history, a set direction featurette, production notes

The Game featuring commentary track by David Fincher and DP Harris Savides, commentary track by screenwriters John Brancato and Michael Ferris, a making-of featurette, the phsychological test film used in the movie, behind the scenes footage, deleted scenes with optional director's commentary, storyboards and concept art, featurette on the visual effects used in the film

Midnight Cowboy featuring commentary track by director John Schlesinger, behind-the-scenes footage, Midnight Cowboy Revisited television documentary, interviews with John Schlesinger, Dustin Hoffman, Jon Voight and Sylvia Miles, Academy Award acceptance speeches, storyboards or concept art, original shooting script, a special dvd easter egg: What the hell happened to Schlesinger's career after this fuckin' movie?!?!? featuring interviews with Schlesinger, members of his family, and movie critics

Naked featuring commentary by Mike Leigh and David Thewlis, Award-winning Mike Leigh short, The Short and Curlies, Complete radio drama Too Much of a Good Thing, a featurette on the homeless in England, interviews with Mike Leigh, David Thewlis, Katrin Cartlige, Lesley Sharp and various members of the production crew, a special dvd easter egg: exclusive interview with Timothy Spall talking about why he wasn't in the film

Secrets and Lies featuring commentary by Mike Leigh, commentary track by film critic Roger Ebert, interviews with cast and crew on the making of the film, original shooting script, a couple of short films by Mike Leigh, a behind the scenes featurette

Sling Blade featuring commentary by Billy Bob Thornton, behind the scenes footage, deleted scenes with optional commentary by Billy Bob Thornton, Mr. Thornton Goes to Hollywood: an award winning documentary on the making of the film, interviews with cast and crew, Billy Bob's Oscar acceptance speech, original shooting script, a special dvd easter egg: ex-wife Angelina Jolie sex tape, a special dvd eater egg: documentary John Ritter: Life After Three's Company

Naked Lunch featuring commentary by David Cronenberg, interviews with David Cronenberg, Peter Weller, Judy Davis, Roy Schieder,  Ian Holm and various members of the production crew, deleted scenes with optional director's commentary, Naked Making Lunch: a documentary on the making of the film, interview with William S. Burroughs (taken before his 1997 death) in which he talks about the book, film, and Cronenberg, original shooting script, production notes and storyboards, a featurette on the sets and costumes in Naked Lunch, a featurette on Burroughs and other 'beat' writers

Boyz N the Hood featuring commentary by John Singleton, commentary by film critic Roger Ebert, making-of featurette, screen tests, original shooting script, featurette on life in South Central Los Angeles, deleted scenes, interviews with cast and crew, production notes

Goodfellas featuring commentary by Martin Scorsese, commentary by film critic Roger Ebert, commentary by Ray Liotta, Robert De Niro, Joe Pesci and Lorraine Bracco, making-of featurette, interview with Martin Scorsese, Nicholas Pileggi, Ray Liotta, Robert De Niro, Joe Pesci, Lorraine Bracco and Paul Sorvino on the making of Goodfellas, Joe Pesci's Oscar acceptance speech, deleted scenes with optional Martin Scorsese commentary, After Goodfellas a short documentary featuring interviews with various filmmakers and the impact Goodfellas/Scorsese had on their lives, original shooting script, production notes and storyboards, a special dvd easter egg: exclusive interview with Joe Pesci talking about his two "overlooked" performances of 1990, Home Alone and Betsy's Wedding

Paris, Texas featuring commentary by Wim Wenders, commentary by film critic Roger Ebert, interviews with Wim Wenders, L.M. Kit Carson, Sam Shepard, Harry Dean Stanton, Natasha Kinski, Dean Stockwell and members of the production crew, a special documentary on independent films before Paris, Texas, original shooting script, production notes

Raging Bull[/b] featuring commentary by Martin Scorsese and Thelma Schoonmaker, commentary by film critic Roger Ebert, featurette on the editing in the film, interviews with cast and crew looking back on Raging Bull, historic boxing footage of Jake LaMotta, original shooting script, production notes and storyboards, making of Raging Bull, documentary Easy Riders Raging Bulls

Hey, it's okay to dream.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: sphinx on March 18, 2003, 05:51:56 PM
half of the movies you guys listed have already been released by criterion........on laserdisc.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 18, 2003, 05:54:05 PM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetPandora's Box

I personally think that's one of the most gut-wrenchingly overrrated movies I've ever seen... painful...

You know what really deserve a criterion? Sydney. (yes, and they should call it that)...
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: life_boy on March 18, 2003, 06:02:40 PM
Quote from: sphinxhalf of the movies you guys listed have already been released by criterion........on laserdisc.

I know.  I got many of my choices from looking at the list of laserdiscs Criterion put out.  Plus I added many special features and a few films.  I guess it grounded my fantasy in reality.
Title: Laserdiscs
Post by: CollinBullock on March 18, 2003, 07:23:34 PM
Yeah, I know a lot of them have been released on Laserdisc.  But, you know, as much as I have always been tempted to, I rfeuse to plunk down money for what is, basically, a completely dead and buried format.
Title: Re: Laserdiscs
Post by: MacGuffin on March 18, 2003, 07:33:04 PM
Quote from: CollinBullockYeah, I know a lot of them have been released on Laserdisc.  But, you know, as much as I have always been tempted to, I rfeuse to plunk down money for what is, basically, a completely dead and buried format.

There are many laserdiscs that have material not included on the DVD versions, and many lasers that haven't had a DVD release yet (like the Criterions listed). So if it is a dead format, then I guess my collection is priceless, not worthless.

*goes and savors his original Star Wars films*
Title: Re: Laserdiscs
Post by: bonanzataz on March 18, 2003, 07:57:20 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin*goes and savors his original Star Wars films*

moi aussi, MacGuffin.

I got my laserdisc player for $10 at a flea market, only to find that retail price for that model was around $1200. Teehee.
Title: Re: Laserdiscs
Post by: Rudie Obias on March 18, 2003, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: CollinBullockYeah, I know a lot of them have been released on Laserdisc.  But, you know, as much as I have always been tempted to, I rfeuse to plunk down money for what is, basically, a completely dead and buried format.

the quality of picture and sound is much better on a laserdisc than a dvd.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: bonanzataz on March 18, 2003, 08:19:08 PM
Picture of an LD better than a DVD? Ew! No way.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 18, 2003, 09:04:07 PM
Quote from: bonanzatazPicture of an LD better than a DVD? Ew! No way.

Arent LD's mpeg encoding less compressed than DVD? But still I have heard that the best DVD's beat the best LD due to newer technology for transfer and cleanup.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 18, 2003, 09:07:24 PM
First off, I don't have a laser disc player and since I do know that are a lot where already released on laser disc, then hopes should be higher that they do get released on dvd player.

And about Pandora's Box, well, I have no way of even seeing this movie. I'm a big fan of Louise Brooks but all attempts for me to ordering this movie were killed in some way and Criterion putting it out would be the only way for me to see it. Its sad when the best place to get hard to find movies is the local blockbuster, but thats my situation.

~rougerum
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Cecil on March 18, 2003, 10:21:44 PM
any movie that i would buy i would like a criterion edition of. but i doubt criterion would ever release, say, a 2-disc showgirls
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on March 18, 2003, 10:40:57 PM
Quote from: cecil b. dementedany movie that i would buy i would like a criterion edition of. but i doubt criterion would ever release, say, a 2-disc showgirls

they would if i ran the company. and i would put in a commentary track  by Quentin Tarantino , who understood that movie for what it was . Just goofy fun. And anyone who grew up watching saved by the bell.........
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: life_boy on March 18, 2003, 10:43:46 PM
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Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Cecil on March 18, 2003, 10:43:55 PM
Quote from: Butterscotch Jonesand i would put in a commentary track  by Quentin Tarantino

tarantino should do more commentary tracks. is "rolling thunder pictures" dead?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on March 18, 2003, 10:58:07 PM
Quote from: cecil b. demented
Quote from: Butterscotch Jonesand i would put in a commentary track  by Quentin Tarantino

tarantino should do more commentary tracks. is "rolling thunder pictures" dead?

the guy just talks so much about films, he is born to do this

i love the idea of him doing commentary tracks
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: aurora on March 18, 2003, 11:14:45 PM
Badlands

With a audio commentary by Terrence Malick

That would be the greatest DVD of all time.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: lamas on March 18, 2003, 11:30:26 PM
so we're basically listing our favorite films right?  why would you not want Criterion to release EVERY film DVD?  they simply do the best work.  

has anyone else actually sent an email to Criterion requesting they release a certain film?  i requested Louis Malle's Le Feu Follet.  i figured of all the films i could think of it's chances of actually being released would be the highest since it's never been released on DVD and the VHS copy is very rare so i would assume they could get the rights.  plus it influenced the royal tenenbaums (richie's suicide scene).
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 19, 2003, 01:26:07 AM
Quote from: lamasso we're basically listing our favorite films right?  why would you not want Criterion to release EVERY film DVD?  they simply do the best work.  

Your right, so I guess a better question would be which movies are most likely to see a criterion release.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: life_boy on March 19, 2003, 01:57:54 AM
Quote from: Duck Sauce
Quote from: lamasso we're basically listing our favorite films right?  why would you not want Criterion to release EVERY film DVD?  they simply do the best work.  

Your right, so I guess a better question would be which movies are most likely to see a criterion release.

That's one reason I listed mainly old Criterion Laserdiscs.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: cowboykurtis on March 19, 2003, 11:25:53 AM
antonioni's BLOW UP (why isnt this on dvd?)

bertolucci's The Conformist & Last Tango in Paris

Roeg's Don't Look Now
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 19, 2003, 11:04:27 PM
I posted that one of the movies I would love love to see released by Criterion was Antonioni's L'Eclisse. Now comes word from the official spokesman, Jon Mulvaney on it in repliance to an email:

"We hope to release L'Eclisse sometime in the future, but nothing is definite at the moment."

Considering the man's elusiveness at saying anything, this is wonderful news.

~rougerum
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: tpfkabi on March 20, 2003, 10:57:49 PM
sorry, double
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: tpfkabi on March 20, 2003, 10:58:32 PM
Breathless
Sunrise

all the great Chaplin: Gold Rush, City Lights, Great Dictator, Modern Times..........buttttttttttt, the original versions......no Chaplin narration on Gold Rush.....original music, etc.....close to the originals as possible

The Graduate? if there are more things out there than is on the SE now.

Orson Welles - The Trial......i have a very cheap DVD by Laserlight i got for 7 bucks i think.....the film is great considering its bugdet......i'm just not sure if they could fix it much, well i'm sure they could fix the picture quality, but i think Welles ran out of money and had to do all voices post dubbed........it would be great if they could though

Bonnie and Clyde (is there a dvd out now?)
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Vivian Darkbloom on March 21, 2003, 08:14:24 AM
First of all, if you have no problems with region 2 releases, check the play.com website, you can find a decent copy of Pandora's Box with a great documentary about Louise Brooks...

So... Besides all the titles you listed (SIDNEY !), I would like to add to the list :

_ BLOW OUT, PHANTOM OF THE PARADISE and GET TO KNOW YOUR RABBIT...

_ LOST HIGHWAY

_ LA DOLCE VITA (and whatever bits of MASTORNA they could find)

_ ALIEN 3 DIRECTOR'S CUT (you talked about dreaming so let's be unrealistic for a minute and throw in a little STAR WARS ORIGINAL TRILOGY request)

_ ANNIe HALL (with deletd scenes even though I know this request is as realistic as a special edition of the man WHO KILLED DON QUIXOTE's rough cut)

What do you say ?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: MacGuffin on March 21, 2003, 12:09:03 PM
Quote from: bigideasall the great Chaplin: Gold Rush, City Lights, Great Dictator, Modern Times..........buttttttttttt, the original versions......no Chaplin narration on Gold Rush.....original music, etc.....close to the originals as possible

Warner Bros has announced that they'll be releasing the first four (in a series of ten) two-disc Chaplin Collection DVDs on July 1st: The Gold Rush, The Great Dictator, Limelight and Modern Times (SRP $29.95 each). Four more films in the series will follow in the fall (titles TBA). Details on these first titles are as follows:

The Gold Rush will include both the 1942 re-release and the original silent version (with the cut footage reinstated and Chaplin's original score, newly reorchestrated in Dolby Digital 5.1 by Neil Brand). Extras will include the Chaplin Today - The Gold Rush: MK2TV retrospective documentary, an introduction by Chaplin biographer David Robinson, theatrical trailers from around the world, galleries of film posters and photos, an interview with Lita Grey Chaplin (his wife at the time of the film) and the original "scenario" written by Chaplin prior to filming (The Lucky Strike - A Play in Two Scenes).

Special features on The Great Dictator will include The Tramp and the Dictator: Acclaimed Turner Classic Movies documentary, rare color home movies shot on the set by Chaplin's half brother Sydney, a deleted scene from Chaplin's short film Sunnyside (1918 - which inspired his creation of the Jewish barber character), a Hitler/Mussolini excerpt from Chaplin's Monsieur Verdoux, Chaplin's original story notes, drafts of scripts and production records documenting his creation of the film's impassioned final sequence, the soundtrack remastered in Dolby Digital 5.1, a poster gallery and a 1933 Fox Movietone newsreel about Adolf Hitler.

Limelight will feature the Chaplin Today - Limelight: MK2TV documentary, a featurette on the seven other Chaplin family members in Limelight, 1952 and 1959 home movies of Chaplin's children and Chaplin in London, deleted scenes cut after the premiere (including "One-armed Man" scene), an introduction to the film by Chaplin biographer David Robinson, theatrical trailers from around the world, galleries of posters and photos, the soundtrack remastered in Dolby Digital 5.1, and audio-only track of the film's score, sections of Chaplin's working text for the novel on which the film is based, a six-minute excerpt of the unfinished 1919 film, The Professor (which mirrors the Limelight fleas and flophouse scenes) and a production summary.

And finally, Modern Times will include the Chaplin Today - Modern Times: Insightful documentary, an introduction to the film by Chaplin biographer David Robinson, alternate scene (including the complete version of the nonsense song Chaplin sings in the cafe scene), the soundtrack remastered in Dolby Digital 5.1, never-before-available original story notes, shooting log and production reports for the "feeding machine" sequence, a "video reminiscence" by musical arranger/composer David Raksin, theatrical trailers from around the world, galleries of film posters and photos and extensive production notes.

Each of the above sets will feature the film in full frame (1.37:1) aspect ratio, with English and French audio (dubbed in Québécois) and subtitles in English, French and Spanish.

Quote from: bigideasBonnie and Clyde (is there a dvd out now?)

Yes, but cheap snapper case version with just the trailer. Definitely deserves better:
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Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: sphinx on March 21, 2003, 02:57:40 PM
Quote from: Vivian Darkbloom
_ ALIEN 3 DIRECTOR'S CUT (you talked about dreaming so let's be unrealistic for a minute and throw in a little STAR WARS ORIGINAL TRILOGY request)

alien 3 is getting a release in that crazy alien quadrilogy box which is bound to have a director's cut on it, i don't know if fincher has anything to do with it yet
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 21, 2003, 03:48:37 PM
I saw somebody mention The Game, which for sure deserves it. What is on the laser?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: MacGuffin on March 21, 2003, 03:56:45 PM
Quote from: Duck SauceI saw somebody mention The Game, which for sure deserves it. What is on the laser?

Quote from: sphinxsphinx wishes fincher would do something about the criterion ld release of 'the game'.

list of features for the original LD release:
- New widescreen (2.35:1) digital transfer supervised by director David Fincher
- New Dolby Digital® discrete 5.1 channel surround sound mix supervised by sound designer Ren Klyce, optimized for home theater viewing
- Screen-specific audio commentary by David Fincher, actor Michael Douglas, screenwriters John Brancato and Michael Ferris, digital animation supervisor Richard "Dr." Baily, production designer Jeffrey Beecroft, visual effects supervisor Kevin Haug, visual effects producer Robyn D'Arcy and director of photography Harris Savides
- Behind the scenes footage shot exclusively for the Criterion Collection special edition
- Storyboards and production design drawings
- Alternate ending
- The original widescreen theatrical trailer and teaser trailer
- Psychological test film

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Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: xerxes on March 21, 2003, 05:38:56 PM
it's great to see a nabokov fan here
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: tpfkabi on March 22, 2003, 04:34:31 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinWarner Bros has announced that they'll be releasing the first four (in a series of ten) two-disc Chaplin Collection DVDs on July 1st: The Gold Rush, The Great Dictator, Limelight and Modern Times (SRP $29.95 each). Four more films in the series will follow in the fall (titles TBA). Details on these first titles are as follows:

fabtastic. is there a webpage on the restoration or anything?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Ravi on March 23, 2003, 09:28:50 PM
The Apu Trilogy
Enter the Dragon (It's an important film IMO.  Seriously.)
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Vivian Darkbloom on March 24, 2003, 11:02:35 AM
Well, what can you say ? Nabokov is just my favourite.
About the quadrilogy set, i've also heard about some kind of director's cut for alien 3 but it seems, quite suprisingly I might say (...) that Fincher has nothing to do with it. I wonder what it will look like since apparently all of the original negatives for the deleted have been destroyed (unless they remaster his original workprint from one of those bootleg tapes on VHS)...
I just wondered if those studio executives know what the expression "Director's cut" means... (remember the time when they re-released Blade Runner with a few minor changes and forgot to mention it to Ridley Scott...)
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: ©brad on March 24, 2003, 12:37:58 PM
what does screen-specific audio commentary mean?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: MacGuffin on March 24, 2003, 12:45:51 PM
Quote from: cbrad4dwhat does screen-specific audio commentary mean?

When what the filmmaker says in his/her commentary relates directly to what is being shown on screen. As opposed to, say, an audio essay track where usually a scholar is talking about the filmmaker's biography, etc.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: MacGuffin on April 06, 2003, 11:59:23 PM
Quote from: Vivian DarkbloomAbout the quadrilogy set, i've also heard about some kind of director's cut for alien 3 but it seems, quite suprisingly I might say (...) that Fincher has nothing to do with it. I wonder what it will look like since apparently all of the original negatives for the deleted have been destroyed (unless they remaster his original workprint from one of those bootleg tapes on VHS)...

Note, it doesn't say director's cut and it doesn't say Fincher did a commentary, but:

The May edition of the UK's Empire magazine has some details on the upcoming Alien Quadrilogy direct from 20th Century Fox. Look for the 9-disc set to include new "extended" cuts of Alien, Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection (Aliens will be the previous director's cut), along with audio commentaries, documentaries and lots more. Each film will get 2-disc treatment (a disc for the film and a disc of extras), along with a 9th bonus disc of just supplementary material (including the Alien Legacy documentary). The film discs will reportedly give you the choice of watching the theatrical version or the new extended cuts via seamless branching. According to Fox, the set is tentatively due for a late 2003 release.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: budgie on April 07, 2003, 05:11:09 AM
I would be surprised if Fincher did anything for Alien 3 other than a new cut. I'd love to see the Game though. It's gotta happen.

I just wish we had a Criterion equivalent here.  :(
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Julke on April 07, 2003, 06:41:13 PM
I'd like to see a Criterion DVD of:
Last Year at Marienbad
The Bicycle Thief
Seven Beauties
The Game
Panic Room
Apocalypse Now with Hearts of Darkness
Ocean's Eleven (2001)
Solaris (2002)
25th Hour
Ed Wood
Beetlejuice (doubtful, but at least a SP)
Adaptation
Being John Malkovich
Bringing Up Baby
M
Rules of the Game
Double Indemnity
I Vtollini
and every of Scrosese's films (Raging Bull, Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Casino, Age of Innocence, Goddfellas, etc. etc. etc.)

If you know of any of htese that are coming out tell me.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Julke on April 07, 2003, 06:43:23 PM
I forgot a very important one: Breathless
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: sphinx on April 07, 2003, 07:54:17 PM
i'll comment on the films i know about

The Game - highly rumored, this has a 50% chance of being released, the biggest problem in the way is criterion securing rights
Panic Room - not a chance
Apocalypse Now with Hearts of Darkness - criterion would never be able to secure the rights
Ocean's Eleven (2001) - not a chance
Solaris (2002) - slim chance, if the version being released in the fall sells well and has decent extras, i would severly doubt it
25th Hour - with the kind of money the studio spent on marketing and producing it, not a chance
Ed Wood - nope
Adaptation - this one's being released as a superbit, later to be rerelased as a superbit deluxe, so not a chance
Being John Malkovich - far too big a seller to have it's rights sold to criterion
and every of Scrosese's films (Raging Bull, Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Casino, Age of Innocence, Goddfellas, etc. etc. etc.) - these have LD releases, but they were released before studios woke up and realized how much money you could make off of those films.  there's absolutely no chance of a scorsese film getting criterion because it's a cash goldmine
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Cecil on April 07, 2003, 07:57:00 PM
Quote from: JulkeI'd like to see a Criterion DVD of:
M

youre in luck http://www.criterionco.com/asp/release.asp?id=30
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Julke on April 08, 2003, 03:39:58 PM
Just tomake sure no one thinks I don't know anything about the DVD business.  I only listed the titles I thought would make great editions, knowing very well that they will never come up.

But thanks anyways for the updates.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: cine on April 08, 2003, 05:05:10 PM
Julke, word of advice: don't be disappointed if you see a white line during "M".. thats the best Criterion could do unless they wanted to wipe out a third of the film by cropping the top out..

Just in case you had a problem with that if you purchase it.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Ravi on April 08, 2003, 07:25:39 PM
Quote from: CinephileJulke, word of advice: don't be disappointed if you see a white line during "M".. thats the best Criterion could do unless they wanted to wipe out a third of the film by cropping the top out..

Just in case you had a problem with that if you purchase it.

I only noticed this on a few shots, probably due to my TV's overscan.  Besides this, there are other problems with the transfer.  Too much digital video noise reduction has been applied to the image, causing blurring of the image when things move or the camera moves.  It also causes some double images, if, for example, a character turns his head.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Julke on April 09, 2003, 01:18:27 PM
Thanks for letting me know.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: MacGuffin on April 15, 2003, 10:33:45 AM
Quote from: MacGuffinWarner Bros has announced that they'll be releasing the first four (in a series of ten) two-disc Chaplin Collection DVDs on July 1st: The Gold Rush, The Great Dictator, Limelight and Modern Times (SRP $29.95 each).

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Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: dufresne on April 17, 2003, 02:06:52 AM
Criterion should release a Criterion Collection version of ANY Coen Bros. movie.  if i had my choice, i'd take Miller's Crossing.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: soixante on April 19, 2003, 08:36:24 AM
Criterion should do Dazed and Confused, which was released 10 years ago.  Think of all the actors in that film who have become famous -- Matthew McConaughey, Ben Affleck, Rene Zellweger, Parker Posey, Nicky Katt, Adam Goldberg, Joey Lauren Adams, etc.

Also, Short Cuts would be a great Criterion release, as it has never been released on DVD.  Another great Altman film for Criterion would be California Split, which has never even been released on video or DVD!
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Julke on April 19, 2003, 01:04:58 PM
I would love to see a better edition of American History X with a commentary by Ed Norton.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: BonBon85 on April 19, 2003, 03:58:36 PM
Quote from: JulkeI would love to see a better edition of American History X with a commentary by Ed Norton.

It'd be nice, but I don't see criterion getting that director approved seal any time soon for it based on the director's feelings about the film.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: ksmc on April 19, 2003, 06:11:46 PM
At www.davisdvd.com/weeklycharts/calendar_e.htm there is a listing for "Bottle Rocket" (Criterion Collection) under the Coming Soon heading. Do you think this is for real? That would be incredible.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Stringstroker on April 20, 2003, 06:05:42 AM
Hey guys, check this out. http://pub125.ezboard.com/fcriterioncollectionforumfrm2.showMessage?topicID=118.topic

Also, I wanna see Looking for Richard Criterion release, let alone a DVD release.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: sphinx on April 20, 2003, 02:35:00 PM
i asked mulvaney a year ago if 'fear and loathing' would ever made it to criterion because terry gilliam simply rocks.  he gave me the standard reply: no, we have no plans to release this film.  fucking twat.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: cowboykurtis on April 20, 2003, 04:02:59 PM
on a tangent here: does any one know about the scorsese box set rumor -- is there any validity to this?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: sphinx on April 20, 2003, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: cowboykurtison a tangent here: does any one know about the scorsese box set rumor -- is there any validity to this?

the box set is still planning to be released, however it's not criterion.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on October 28, 2003, 12:10:11 PM
..leaving las vegas
Jesus' son
at close range
chinatown
the .thin red line
bad lieutenent
my own private idaho
heat.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: SHAFTR on October 28, 2003, 12:23:55 PM
Jules et Jim
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on December 14, 2003, 11:56:55 PM
Quote from: life_boyWell, this sounds fun so I'm just gonna let my imagination go on these.  I'd love to see some nice special (or Criterion) editions of some of these films.

Naked Lunch featuring commentary by David Cronenberg, interviews with David Cronenberg, Peter Weller, Judy Davis, Roy Schieder,  Ian Holm and various members of the production crew, deleted scenes with optional director's commentary, Naked Making Lunch: a documentary on the making of the film, interview with William S. Burroughs (taken before his 1997 death) in which he talks about the book, film, and Cronenberg, original shooting script, production notes and storyboards, a featurette on the sets and costumes in Naked Lunch, a featurette on Burroughs and other 'beat' writers



Hey, it's okay to dream.

..dreams do come true.....
Title: long overdue
Post by: GoneSavage on December 15, 2003, 12:16:37 AM
Criterion should release Grapes of Wrath.  That film deserves quality treatment.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: socketlevel on December 15, 2003, 12:28:33 AM
Curtis' Charm, great film check it out.
Title: Re: long overdue
Post by: MacGuffin on December 15, 2003, 12:38:01 AM
Quote from: GoneSavageCriterion should release Grapes of Wrath.  That film deserves quality treatment.

Fox is releasing it on April 6th with commentary, a featurette, newsreels and trailers.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: SHAFTR on December 15, 2003, 12:39:12 AM
La Dolce Vita
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on December 15, 2003, 08:45:20 AM
Shaftr, you'll get your previous choice, Jues et Jim, sometime next year or the following, but no chance on La Dolce Vita. Its getting a special edition release sometime next year (June, last I heard) from another company.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: SoNowThen on December 15, 2003, 09:52:30 AM
il conformista



but it'll never happen. Get off your ass, Paramount. Release this fucking film or sell the rights.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: billybrown on December 15, 2003, 05:04:47 PM
life_boy wrote:


Midnight Cowboy featuring commentary track by director John Schlesinger, behind-the-scenes footage, Midnight Cowboy Revisited television documentary, interviews with John Schlesinger, Dustin Hoffman, Jon Voight and Sylvia Miles, Academy Award acceptance speeches, storyboards or concept art, original shooting script, a special dvd easter egg: What the hell happened to Schlesinger's career after this fuckin' movie?!?!? featuring interviews with Schlesinger, members of his family, and movie critics

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It's gonna be real tough getting a John Schlesinger commentary track being that he's dead.




life_boy also wrote:

Sling Blade featuring commentary by Billy Bob Thornton, behind the scenes footage, deleted scenes with optional commentary by Billy Bob Thornton, Mr. Thornton Goes to Hollywood: an award winning documentary on the making of the film, interviews with cast and crew, Billy Bob's Oscar acceptance speech, original shooting script, a special dvd easter egg: ex-wife Angelina Jolie sex tape, a special dvd eater egg: documentary John Ritter: Life After Three's Company

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Would we get to hear Billy Bob doing the commentary in full Swing Blade mode, annoying voice and all? That would be a classic.  :-D
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Alethia on December 15, 2003, 05:12:39 PM
armageddon
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: MacGuffin on December 15, 2003, 05:19:49 PM
Quote from: billybrownWould we get to hear Billy Bob doing the commentary in full Swing Blade mode, annoying voice and all? That would be a classic.  :-D

It would much better than the droll, unenthusiastic track he did on the Criterion laserdisc.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Weak2ndAct on December 15, 2003, 06:06:06 PM
Quote from: billybrownIt's gonna be real tough getting a John Schlesinger commentary track being that he's dead.
I believe he did commentary on the criterion laserdisc.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: billybrown on December 15, 2003, 08:01:42 PM
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
Quote from: billybrownIt's gonna be real tough getting a John Schlesinger commentary track being that he's dead.
I believe he did commentary on the criterion laserdisc.


Then I stand corrected... but I was just being a wee bit cheeky with that comment. It's amazing though how many commentary tracks Criterion was able to get on that crappy laser disc format from back in the day, and how tough it seems to be for them to rehash them/ get rights, etc., for films on DVD. Sucks actually.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: billybrown on December 15, 2003, 08:08:33 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: billybrownWould we get to hear Billy Bob doing the commentary in full Swing Blade mode, annoying voice and all? That would be a classic.  :-D

It would much better than the droll, unenthusiastic track he did on the Criterion laserdisc.

I've never heard it. Was it that bad? Spike Lee and Tim Burton tend to do some really wretched ones too (sooo much dead air), which is a shame, cuz you'd think interesting filmmakers like them would be able  provide lots of great insight and what not. Was the Billy Bob one on par with the lackluster commentaries provided by the aformentioned Lee and Burton?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: MacGuffin on December 15, 2003, 08:15:59 PM
Quote from: billybrownIt's amazing though how many commentary tracks Criterion was able to get on that crappy laser disc format from back in the day, and how tough it seems to be for them to rehash them/ get rights, etc., for films on DVD. Sucks actually.

If it was considered "crappy" then Criterion wouldn't have gone through all recorded all those commentaries. It was the format at the time for 'cinephiles'. But now that the DVD format has taken off, the studios now see the financial rewards and won't give up the rights to those past commentary tracks and films.

Quote from: billybrown
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: billybrownWould we get to hear Billy Bob doing the commentary in full Swing Blade mode, annoying voice and all? That would be a classic.  :-D

It would much better than the droll, unenthusiastic track he did on the Criterion laserdisc.

I've never heard it. Was it that bad? Spike Lee and Tim Burton tend to do some really wretched ones too (sooo much dead air), which is a shame, cuz you'd think interesting filmmakers like them would be able  provide lots of great insight and what not. Was the Billy Bob one on par with the lackluster commentaries provided by the aformentioned Lee and Burton?

At least with Lee and Burton they offer insight despite their monotone. With Billy Bob's track, while I haven't listened to it in a while, I don't remember it being all that informative.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: billybrown on December 15, 2003, 10:02:39 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: billybrownIt's amazing though how many commentary tracks Criterion was able to get on that crappy laser disc format from back in the day, and how tough it seems to be for them to rehash them/ get rights, etc., for films on DVD. Sucks actually.

If it was considered "crappy" then Criterion wouldn't have gone through all recorded all those commentaries. It was the format at the time for 'cinephiles'. But now that the DVD format has taken off, the studios now see the financial rewards and won't give up the rights to those past commentary tracks and films.




Quote from: billybrown
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: billybrownWould we get to hear Billy Bob doing the commentary in full Swing Blade mode, annoying voice and all? That would be a classic.  :-D

It would much better than the droll, unenthusiastic track he did on the Criterion laserdisc.

I've never heard it. Was it that bad? Spike Lee and Tim Burton tend to do some really wretched ones too (sooo much dead air), which is a shame, cuz you'd think interesting filmmakers like them would be able  provide lots of great insight and what not. Was the Billy Bob one on par with the lackluster commentaries provided by the aformentioned Lee and Burton?

At least with Lee and Burton they offer insight despite their monotone. With Billy Bob's track, while I haven't listened to it in a while, I don't remember it being all that informative.


I see your point, but the fact of the matter is, laser disc was merely a flavour of the month, and a completely overhyped technology. Like most things, when a particular product or whatever is new and moderately better than what exists at the moment, companies (Criterion) all jump on board for a piece of the action. The fact that laser discs died a quick and early death, and the DVD has exploded like nothing before or after, indicates as much. It may have been the "cinephiles" format for like 2 seconds, but it still sucked, IMHO, of course.  It's too bad that all these big studios are such money hungry pigs.

As for the Burton / Lee commentaries, the ones I have heard- which include E. Scissorhands, Planet Of The Apes, Bamboozled, 25th Hour, and Do The Right Thing- are soo slow, tedious, and filled with so much dead air, that whatever little iota of insight they may offer, it is completely offset by the sheer boredom of it, that even a hardcore fan of theirs would be hard pressed to make it through the whole thing. Flipside, guys like PTA, Kevin Smith, and Soderbergh especially, always deliver the goods.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: MacGuffin on December 15, 2003, 10:29:30 PM
Quote from: billybrownI see your point, but the fact of the matter is, laser disc was merely a flavour of the month, and a completely overhyped technology. Like most things, when a particular product or whatever is new and moderately better than what exists at the moment, companies (Criterion) all jump on board for a piece of the action. The fact that laser discs died a quick and early death, and the DVD has exploded like nothing before or after, indicates as much. It may have been the "cinephiles" format for like 2 seconds, but it still sucked, IMHO, of course.  It's too bad that all these big studios are such money hungry pigs.

I was a collector for many years, so I dunno how that equates to "2 seconds." It was hardly an "early death." The format was carried in almost as many stores as DVDs are today. It's just the large disc was not accepted by the common consumer. Which is why studios were weary about DVDs at first. They didn't know if this format would be accepted, so didn't "jump on board" immediately. It wasn't until companies saw the enormous rise is the sale of DVD players, and this was the huge indicator for them, since it showed that comsumers were willing to invest in this new format; it wasn't until this news that they "exploded" the market with their catalogue of films in their libraries. And while the common complaint about lasers were their large size and their limited amount of information to hold, the picture quality, in some cases, are just as clear, if not better. Lasers paved the way for DVDs.

If you're not a fan of the laser format, then fine; you're entitled to your honest opinion. But the fact remains that there are still many films on laser that aren't on DVD and who knows when they will be, and there many lasers that have extras on them that are not carried over to the DVD releases.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: billybrown on December 15, 2003, 11:16:44 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: billybrownI see your point, but the fact of the matter is, laser disc was merely a flavour of the month, and a completely overhyped technology. Like most things, when a particular product or whatever is new and moderately better than what exists at the moment, companies (Criterion) all jump on board for a piece of the action. The fact that laser discs died a quick and early death, and the DVD has exploded like nothing before or after, indicates as much. It may have been the "cinephiles" format for like 2 seconds, but it still sucked, IMHO, of course.  It's too bad that all these big studios are such money hungry pigs.

I was a collector for many years, so I dunno how that equates to "2 seconds." It was hardly an "early death." The format was carried in almost as many stores as DVDs are today. It's just the large disc was not accepted by the common consumer. Which is why studios were weary about DVDs at first. They didn't know if this format would be accepted, so didn't "jump on board" immediately. It wasn't until companies saw the enormous rise is the sale of DVD players, and this was the huge indicator for them, since it showed that comsumers were willing to invest in this new format; it wasn't until this news that they "exploded" the market with their catalogue of films in their libraries. And while the common complaint about lasers were their large size and their limited amount of information to hold, the picture quality, in some cases, are just as clear, if not better. Lasers paved the way for DVDs.

If you're not a fan of the laser format, then fine; you're entitled to your honest opinion. But the fact remains that there are still many films on laser that aren't on DVD and who knows when they will be, and there many lasers that have extras on them that are not carried over to the DVD releases.


I'm not here to debate you or even sure what the point in all of this is, but the fact that laser discs paved the way for DVD's is hardly revolutionary, cuz as with most things in life, one thing leads to another. All I'm saying is that, save for the serious "collector",  "cinephile" or what have you, laser discs have had nary an impact on the world that the DVD has had. From storage capacity, to quality, to convenience of size, etc., etc., there is no debating between the two.  Laser discs were, and have always been, an over-hyped and inferior product that managed to get some consumers initially, but before most people even knew there was a format between VHS and DVD, laser discs had already come and gone.

And it's too bad that many of the studios hold movie-goers hostage by not releasing many films or extras from previous laser discs to DVD. But that hardly has anything to do with the fact that laser discs were anything special, they just came before, and now, thankfully, they are a mere afterthought, and essentailly a blip along the technological radar. DVD has become the standard that most EVERYONE now has- not just collectors and hardcore cinephiles- and it is an infinitely better product, period.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: MacGuffin on December 15, 2003, 11:25:20 PM
Quote from: billybrownI'm not here to debate you or even sure what the point in all of this is, but the fact that laser discs paved the way for DVD's is hardly revolutionary, cuz as with most things in life, one thing leads to another. All I'm saying is that, save for the serious "collector",  "cinephile" or what have you, laser discs have had nary an impact on the world that the DVD has had. From storage capacity, to quality, to convenience of size, etc., etc., there is no debating between the two.  Laser discs were, and have always been, an over-hyped and inferior product that managed to get some consumers initially, but before most people even knew there was a format between VHS and DVD, laser discs had already come and gone.

And it's too bad that many of the studios hold movie-goers hostage by not releasing many films or extras from previous laser discs to DVD. But that hardly has anything to do with the fact that laser discs were anything special, they just came before, and now, thankfully, they are a mere afterthought, and essentailly a blip along the technological radar. DVD has become the standard that most EVERYONE now has- not just collectors and hardcore cinephiles- and it is an infinitely better product, period.

I don't understand your pure hatred for laserdiscs. Just because the technology advanced, why does it make lasers the shit on the bottom of your shoe? I'm standing up for the format that should not be a "blip on the technological radar". They were not over-hyped because the product delivered - the picture quality was better and it offered more than you could get from VHS, and that is what made them special. You are comparing it to product advancement, so, of course, the newest product will be better, I'm not saying it's not. I just don't understand why lasers to you are not worth mentioning.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Pubrick on December 16, 2003, 12:17:30 AM
billy brown loved laserdiscs once, then they broke his heart.

alternatively they killed his father..
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on December 16, 2003, 01:01:15 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
If you're not a fan of the laser format, then fine; you're entitled to your honest opinion. But the fact remains that there are still many films on laser that aren't on DVD and who knows when they will be, and there many lasers that have extras on them that are not carried over to the DVD releases.

...that is so true.....(i.e. short cuts for me)... :(
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: billybrown on December 17, 2003, 06:25:07 PM
Quote from: Pbilly brown loved laserdiscs once, then they broke his heart.

alternatively they killed his father..


Alas, you got me. I was soo madly in love with Miss. Laser Disc, only to be left at the altar.  :cry:

However, once I met Miss DVD, at a time when I didn't think love was at all possible again, I realized what a dirty, crappy, useless whore Laser Disc was, and have seen and heard the majestic light of DVD ever since.

And then, they lived happily ever after.  :-D
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: cine on December 17, 2003, 06:32:34 PM
I guess you've chosen to ignore some of the attributes that LD had that DVD will never possess.  :?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: billybrown on December 17, 2003, 08:45:22 PM
Quote from: CinephileI guess you've chosen to ignore some of the attributes that LD had that DVD will never possess.  :?

I think if you'd have bothered to read all my previous posts on the matter, that question would have been plainly answered- again and again and again on that aformentioned subject Mr. Cinephile-who-bases-his-film-opinions-on-what-critics-tell-him.  :roll:
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: GoneSavage on December 20, 2003, 02:42:06 PM
DVDs fit on one disc, with RARE exceptions.

Therefore:  DVD>LD
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: cine on December 20, 2003, 04:32:03 PM
Quote from: billybrownMr. Cinephile-who-bases-his-film-opinions-on-what-critics-tell-him.  :roll:
Fucking christ. Do me a BIG favour: PM me your home address and I'll send you a happy christmas card with a humble apology on the inside flap that reads "Sorry you're pissed that I refuse to see the Brown Bunny."

And maybe then, you and I can be friends again.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: billybrown on December 21, 2003, 12:56:58 AM
Quote from: Cinephile
Quote from: billybrownMr. Cinephile-who-bases-his-film-opinions-on-what-critics-tell-him.  :roll:
Fucking christ. Do me a BIG favour: PM me your home address and I'll send you a happy christmas card with a humble apology on the inside flap that reads "Sorry you're pissed that I refuse to see the Brown Bunny."

And maybe then, you and I can be friends again.


I could give a rat's ass- more or less- about (a) your friendship and (b) whether or not you care to see the Brown Bunny. My point in that matter was your strong opinion on a subject you personally knew nothing about, but simply based on merely what you'd heard. That just plain stinks- especially when dealing in endeavours of the artistic variety.

Seasons Greetings!  :-D
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: cine on December 21, 2003, 09:27:32 AM
Poor bitter billybrown. Go outside, please. Relax.

I was mostly making reference to the fact that there are OOP LD's that have great commentaries that you'll NEVER get on DVD again.

I know you fucking hate LD, I don't care. I'm saying that LD did bring some good shit to the table.

End of this argument. I hate when people backtalk like they shit their fucking pants.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: billybrown on December 21, 2003, 10:28:16 AM
Quote from: CinephilePoor bitter billybrown. Go outside, please. Relax.

I was mostly making reference to the fact that there are OOP LD's that have great commentaries that you'll NEVER get on DVD again.

I know you fucking hate LD, I don't care. I'm saying that LD did bring some good shit to the table.

End of this argument. I hate when people backtalk like they shit their fucking pants.

Regarding the whole LD issue, again, do please refer to the previous string of posts which explain my position on the matter. Thanks.

I can tell you enjoy drinking piss. Happy New Years!  :-D
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Pubrick on December 21, 2003, 11:05:45 AM
ur pic reminds me of sumone i used to know..

back on the subject tho, criterion should definitely put out. all night long  till the break o'dawn baby.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: modage on December 22, 2003, 01:29:13 AM
Quote from: billybrowninferior product

i could be mistaken but i thought i remember reading when dvd was first rising to power about 5 years ago that the picture quality of a dvd was EQUAL to a laserdisc, but that laserdiscs actually do have BETTER sound.  the only thing wrong with them is their size is inconvienent, but i wouldnt call that inferior and dismiss it as a blip.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: SoNowThen on December 22, 2003, 11:22:01 AM
Quote from: billybrown
Quote from: Pbilly brown loved laserdiscs once, then they broke his heart.

Alas, you got me. I was soo madly in love with Miss. Laser Disc, only to be left at the altar.  :cry:

However, once I met Miss DVD, at a time when I didn't think love was at all possible again, I realized what a dirty, crappy, useless whore Laser Disc was, and have seen and heard the majestic light of DVD ever since.

:lol:

"useless whore".... fucking classic
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: billybrown on December 22, 2003, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: billybrowninferior product

i could be mistaken but i thought i remember reading when dvd was first rising to power about 5 years ago that the picture quality of a dvd was EQUAL to a laserdisc, but that laserdiscs actually do have BETTER sound.  the only thing wrong with them is their size is inconvienent, but i wouldnt call that inferior and dismiss it as a blip.


I've never heard that, ever... can we have confirmation out there, anyone?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: billybrown on December 22, 2003, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
Quote from: billybrown
Quote from: Pbilly brown loved laserdiscs once, then they broke his heart.

Alas, you got me. I was soo madly in love with Miss. Laser Disc, only to be left at the altar.  :cry:

However, once I met Miss DVD, at a time when I didn't think love was at all possible again, I realized what a dirty, crappy, useless whore Laser Disc was, and have seen and heard the majestic light of DVD ever since.

:lol:

"useless whore".... fucking classic


:wink:
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: nix on December 23, 2003, 09:16:15 PM
I heard things like that from people that I trusted about as far as I could throw John Goodman.

I can't really tell a difference in sound quality... But maybe I'm just a dumb fuck.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: bonanzataz on December 24, 2003, 01:14:13 AM
well, i believe (but do not know for sure) i know where the myth of laserdisc's better sound comes from. i guarantee i heard this on the board somewhere. since laserdiscs were very expensive, they were obviously made for rich people. if a rich person was buying a laserdisc player, they wanted to show off that sound and would most likely have a killer sound system. dvd's are sold for cheap. anybody can have them. that doesn't necessarily mean everybody has a killer sound system. b/c of this, the standard 5.1 track on a dvd is downmixed so people who just use the speakers on the tv can hear everything while the 5.1 tracks on the laserdiscs weren't. am i right? i don't think so. sorry.

laserdiscs are rockin'... AND rollin'. dvd's are better, but laserdiscs kick ass.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: cine on May 09, 2004, 03:12:54 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpetbut no chance on La Dolce Vita. Its getting a special edition release sometime next year (June, last I heard) from another company.
Koch Lorber will be giving it a 2-disc collector's edition treatment for an August release.

So with the Scorsese box set and this announced, this is the best weekend ever. Cheers, everyone.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Ravi on May 09, 2004, 03:29:27 PM
Quote from: bonanzatazwell, i believe (but do not know for sure) i know where the myth of laserdisc's better sound comes from. i guarantee i heard this on the board somewhere. since laserdiscs were very expensive, they were obviously made for rich people. if a rich person was buying a laserdisc player, they wanted to show off that sound and would most likely have a killer sound system. dvd's are sold for cheap. anybody can have them. that doesn't necessarily mean everybody has a killer sound system. b/c of this, the standard 5.1 track on a dvd is downmixed so people who just use the speakers on the tv can hear everything while the 5.1 tracks on the laserdiscs weren't. am i right? i don't think so. sorry.

That's correct.  Dolby Digital 5.1 tracks on DVDs are often mixed so that they still sound okay when downconverted to Dolby Surround for people with Pro-Logic systems.  I remember reading on alt.video.dvd and alt.video.ld that the 5.1 track on The Matrix LD was better than on the DVD.  LDs used the uncompressed PCM track for 2-channel tracks (mono, stereo, Dolby Surround) while DVD uses the compressed Dolby Digital tracks.

Quote from: Cinephile
Quote from: The Gold Trumpetbut no chance on La Dolce Vita. Its getting a special edition release sometime next year (June, last I heard) from another company.
Koch Lorber will be giving it a 2-disc collector's edition treatment for an August release.

So with the Scorsese box set and this announced, this is the best weekend ever. Cheers, everyone.

Best Buy should have an Xixax section, with all the money we spend on DVDs.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Stefen on September 15, 2004, 02:00:11 PM
Criterion should really put out a Fearless dvd. I think it's a great movie and it needs a good treatment. Actually, anybody should just put out a good Fearless dvd.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: ono on September 15, 2004, 02:06:23 PM
:yabbse-thumbup:  (Even though it's already on DVD.)
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: MacGuffin on September 15, 2004, 02:09:01 PM
Quote from: ono.:yabbse-thumbup:  (Even though it's already on DVD.)

In full frame.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: ono on September 15, 2004, 02:10:28 PM
Haha, never mind then.  :)  (I saw it on VHS.)
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Stefen on September 15, 2004, 02:17:27 PM
Yeah, it's one of those old warner dvd's witch nothing on it. And the movie is indeed in full frame. I don't know why they haven't released a better dvd version.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Florya Naoki on September 18, 2004, 10:24:36 PM
-Los Olvidados
-Novocento
-If...
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: hedwig on September 25, 2004, 09:16:54 PM
The Life Aquatic
Sydney
The Twin Peaks Pilot -- that'd be coo.
Go Further
Being John Malkovich
Maria Full of Grace
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: cron on September 25, 2004, 09:22:41 PM
Quote from: HedwigThe Life Aquatic

that one's imminent, innit?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: hedwig on September 25, 2004, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: cronopio
Quote from: HedwigThe Life Aquatic

that one's imminent, innit?

are you saying they are going to?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: ono on September 25, 2004, 09:42:36 PM
Quote from: HedwigSydney
I think the DVD out now is quite sufficient.  Two of the best commentaries ever on that thing.  One film school class for less than $20.  I could watch/listen to that thing over and over again.
QuoteBeing John Malkovich
Feh.
QuoteMaria Full of Grace
What's the deal with this movie?  Everyone seems to be fawning over it, yet I haven't heard much about it at all.  Here's the thread. (http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=6574&highlight=maria+full+grace)
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: cron on September 25, 2004, 09:42:55 PM
Yups.  :)
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: hedwig on September 25, 2004, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: ono.
Quote from: HedwigSydney
I think the DVD out now is quite sufficient.  Two of the best commentaries ever on that thing.  One film school class for less than $20.  I could watch/listen to that thing over and over again.
I agree. But a Sydney Criterion cover art would be beautiful, wouldn't it?


Quote from: ono
QuoteMaria Full of Grace
What's the deal with this movie?  Everyone seems to be fawning over it, yet I haven't heard much about it at all.  Here's the thread. (http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=6574&highlight=maria+full+grace)

Thanks, just posted my thoughts there.

Quote from: cronopioYups.

Yay.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 26, 2004, 08:51:28 PM
i  wish criterion would put back into print dead mother phucking ringers
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 27, 2004, 08:08:16 PM
Quote from: Hedwig
Quote from: cronopio
Quote from: HedwigThe Life Aquatic

that one's imminent, innit?

are you saying they are going to?

Likely. Rumors have already popped up saying Criterion plans to and they have even sent word they'd "wish" to release the film. Such a statement so early on, for them, seems to indicate plans have already begun for the DVD release and they really just can't say anything about it yet.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Pubrick on September 27, 2004, 08:10:52 PM
why don't u just marry criterion already
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: ono on September 27, 2004, 08:27:41 PM
I'd settle for 40% myself.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 27, 2004, 08:33:41 PM
Quote from: Pubrickwhy don't u just marry criterion already

marriage laws in NY prohibit same-film-interest marriages. and besides, i haven't been guilty of a Criterion purchase for over 3 months.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on September 27, 2004, 10:02:06 PM
Magnolia and Boogie Nights had some nice features, PDL should get a similar treatment...perhaps Criterionwise.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: SiliasRuby on September 28, 2004, 01:23:11 AM
PDL
Gummo
Lost Highway
Jesus' Son
The Game
Last Tango in Paris
Happiness
Apocalypse Now Redux
and
Network
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: pete on October 19, 2004, 06:58:06 AM
raging bull.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on October 19, 2004, 02:16:35 PM
patch adams.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: pete on October 19, 2004, 02:20:58 PM
that's not funny.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: godardian on October 19, 2004, 02:35:12 PM
They had Naked- Mike Leigh's best film and easily one of the best films of the nineties- on laserdisc, and there's no DVD of it anywhere yet. They should give us movie-lovers a gift and release it on the little disc.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Just Withnail on October 19, 2004, 04:12:21 PM
Welcome back, god, you've been missed.

Rumors are they bought the DVD rights from New Line, along with Short Cuts, My Own Private Idaho and one more that I'm forgetting. Right GT?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: samsong on October 19, 2004, 05:26:04 PM
I would love to see Criterion add Nicholas Ray to the collection.  I'm dying to see Johnny Guitar and Bigger Than Life, both of which I'm assuming are worthy of a Criterion treatment.  If they put They Live By Night on DVD I'll worship the ground they walk on.

Went a bit crazy... all of these are either films I love and want to see Criterion release them or films that I haven't and can't see and want Criterion to provide them, as I count on the Collection for furthering my education.

MORE GODARD, especially Week End.
MORE BRESSON... period.
MORE TATI... I'm especially curious about Trafic.  Supposedly Playtime -- an absolute masterpiece, one of the most perfect and beautiful films ever made -- is in the works so I won't go there
MORE OZU... Late Spring, please.
MORE BUNUEL... Un Chien Andalou + L'Age d'Or
MORE PRESTON STURGES... Unfaithfully Yours!!!
HOWARD HAWKS... his films deserve Criterion treatments.
BELA TARR... Satantango would be orgasmic (I haven't seen it), as is the concept of him getting some exposure in the US/Canada.
MORE KIAROSTAMI... Taste of Cherry was a life-changing experience for me.  I would like more of them.
BOTTLE ROCKET (like everyone else) ... my favorite Wes Anderson.
THE IDIOTS... my favorite Lars von Trier.
JACQUES RIVETTE... I absolutely love La Belle noiseuse and think it only fair to add him to the collection along with his Nouvelle Vague peers (Godard, Truffaut, Resnais, Varda), because he's most definitely worthy.  I think the same can be said about Eric Rohmer and Claude Chabrol but I haven't seen any of their films yet.
EMIR KUSTURICA... next to seeing Underground projected on a big screen, seeing it as restored and transfered by Criterion would be one of my greatest joys as a cinephile.  I'd love to see his other films too.
THE CONFORMIST (obviously)... Bertolucci's best film, the Citizen Kane of the 70s, and one of my very favorite films.

And I think this is where I'll stop... for today.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: cron on October 19, 2004, 05:53:31 PM
to get those i'd need MORE MONEY
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: godardian on October 19, 2004, 09:27:46 PM
Quote from: samsongI would love to see Criteiron add Nicholas Ray to the collection.  I'm dying to see Johnny Guitar and Bigger Than Life, both of which I'm assuming are worthy of a Criterion treatment.

Yes! Yes! YES!!

I can vouch for Johnny Guitar, and from what I saw in Martin Scorsese's Personal Journey Through American Film, I'd put my money on Bigger Than Life being fantastic, too.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Pubrick on October 19, 2004, 09:47:00 PM
Quote from: godardianThey had Naked- Mike Leigh's best film and easily one of the best films of the nineties- on laserdisc, and there's no DVD of it anywhere yet.
there is on region 4. and it's crap. (the dvd)
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Alethia on October 19, 2004, 10:44:26 PM
Quote from: samsongI would love to see Criterion add Nicholas Ray to the collection.  I'm dying to see Johnny Guitar and Bigger Than Life, both of which I'm assuming are worthy of a Criterion treatment.  If they put They Live By Night on DVD I'll worship the ground they walk on.

Went a bit crazy... all of these are either films I love and want to see Criterion release them or films that I haven't and can't see and want Criterion to provide them, as I count on the Collection for furthering my education.

MORE GODARD, especially Week End.
MORE BRESSON... period.
MORE TATI... I'm especially curious about Trafic.  Supposedly Playtime -- an absolute masterpiece, one of the most perfect and beautiful films ever made -- is in the works so I won't go there
MORE OZU... Late Spring, please.
MORE BUNUEL... Un Chien Andalou + L'Age d'Or
MORE PRESTON STURGES... Unfaithfully Yours!!!
HOWARD HAWKS... his films deserve Criterion treatments.
BELA TARR... Satantango would be orgasmic (I haven't seen it), as is the concept of him getting some exposure in the US/Canada.
MORE KIAROSTAMI... Taste of Cherry was a life-changing experience for me.  I would like more of them.
BOTTLE ROCKET (like everyone else) ... my favorite Wes Anderson.
THE IDIOTS... my favorite Lars von Trier.
JACQUES RIVETTE... I absolutely love La Belle noiseuse and think it only fair to add him to the collection along with his Nouvelle Vague peers (Godard, Truffaut, Resnais, Varda), because he's most definitely worthy.  I think the same can be said about Eric Rohmer and Claude Chabrol but I haven't seen any of their films yet.
EMIR KUSTURICA... next to seeing Underground projected on a big screen, seeing it as restored and transfered by Criterion would be one of my greatest joys as a cinephile.  I'd love to see his other films too.
THE CONFORMIST (obviously)... Bertolucci's best film, the Citizen Kane of the 70s, and one of my very favorite films.

And I think this is where I'll stop... for today.

boy you said it mister.  especially on nicholas ray...they need to do more early sam fullers too...and release his 4 hour version of the big red one
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: godardian on October 20, 2004, 12:48:50 AM
Quote from: Pubrick
Quote from: godardianThey had Naked- Mike Leigh's best film and easily one of the best films of the nineties- on laserdisc, and there's no DVD of it anywhere yet.
there is on region 4. and it's crap. (the dvd)

Is it like full frame, or a bad print or something? A few years back, they were showing a nice widescreen/letterbox version on Independent Film Channel, often w/ a very interesting Mike Leigh commentary which I assume would've also been on the Criterion LD... anyway, I think the film's a classic and it deserves a great DVD. Too bad the Reg. 4 version doesn't do it justice... but is it at least better than nothing, P? Or is the disc so poor it actually distracts from the film?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Pubrick on October 20, 2004, 01:25:27 AM
Quote from: godardianIs it like full frame, or a bad print or something? A few years back, they were showing a nice widescreen/letterbox version on Independent Film Channel, often w/ a very interesting Mike Leigh commentary which I assume would've also been on the Criterion LD... anyway, I think the film's a classic and it deserves a great DVD. Too bad the Reg. 4 version doesn't do it justice... but is it at least better than nothing, P? Or is the disc so poor it actually distracts from the film?
it's full frame, and has no features whatsoever. and the tranfer is not much better than it was the last time i saw it on tv.

but i love the movie quite a bit, and since i wore out the tape i had it on, this crappy version is by default slightly better than nothing.

not only does it need a great criterion release, it would go a long way to giving it the revival and rediscovery it deserves. cos not many ppl realise how brilliant it is.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Just Withnail on October 21, 2004, 09:15:05 AM
Quote from: Withnail & GarfunkelWelcome back, god, you've been missed.

Rumors are they bought the DVD rights from New Line, along with Short Cuts, My Own Private Idaho and one more that I'm forgetting. Right GT?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Just Withnail on October 21, 2004, 11:19:03 AM
I think the rumors started popping up after Short Cuts was confirmed. Nothing more than it being a very probable release. You should definitely check out CriterionForum.org (http://www.criterionforum.org) for all your Criterion needs :)
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Pedro on October 21, 2004, 12:35:49 PM
the umbrellas of cherbourg
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on October 21, 2004, 02:12:18 PM
Quote from: flagpolespecial
Quote from: Withnail & Garfunkel
Quote from: Withnail & GarfunkelWelcome back, god, you've been missed.

Rumors are they bought the DVD rights from New Line, along with Short Cuts, My Own Private Idaho and one more that I'm forgetting. Right GT?

ahh yes.. thank you. i knew i read someone mention it. have you heard any more on it since then? i mean short cuts has been confirmed and is coming out next month and all. any news on 'my own private idaho'??

The only concrete news on My Own Private Idaho is that it is [likely] in production as we speak. Van Sant recently handed over a lot of material to Criterion for their DVD. As for the other films likely involved in that New Line deal.......Hoop Dreams, Crash, Damage, Naked and An Angel at my Table, but expect My Own Private Idaho sometime next year. I doubt it will be in the very near future, but next year is good enough.

As for some other requests....Godard's Weekend is getting released next year by New Yorker. Bunuel is going to likely get a huge offering next year with The Phantom of Liberty and Milky Way. Interesting enough, just yesterday, someone through asking Jon Mulvaney found out Criterion is near to announcing the release of either The Exterminating Angel or Viridiania or both. Also expect some Rivette soon, but more according to when Rialto can get around to re-releasing them first.
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Alethia on October 21, 2004, 03:56:26 PM
that means yay
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: SiliasRuby on November 02, 2004, 10:55:00 PM
I Am Cuba
Is there any information on this title coming to Criterion GT, or not?
Title: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Pubrick on November 02, 2004, 10:58:28 PM
And as things fell apart
Silias didn't pay much attention
Title: Re: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: JG on November 13, 2005, 08:40:33 PM
The Ice Storm.  I would love to see that movie get the criterion treatment.   

Criterion experts, is there any chance that it might happen?
Title: Re: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: ono on November 13, 2005, 08:56:37 PM
I'm no expert, but I don't see why it would happen when there's a perfectly sufficient DVD out now, which, fortunately, is priced for bargain bins.  The extras on the DVD are plenty sufficient.  What else could you want?
Title: Re: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: 72teeth on November 13, 2005, 09:33:52 PM
illustration by Eric Anderson...
Title: Re: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: JG on November 14, 2005, 06:23:33 PM
i just think they could make it look a lot better.  that's all. 
Title: Re: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Find Your Magali on November 15, 2005, 05:56:11 PM
Quote from: SiliasRuby on November 02, 2004, 10:55:00 PM
I Am Cuba
Is there any information on this title coming to Criterion GT, or not?

How about RED ZONE CUBA for Criterion?  :yabbse-wink:
Title: Re: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 15, 2005, 08:07:49 PM
There is a chance on I Am Cuba. It gets knocked around here and there as a future release and considering no company seems to be looking to give a special edition to the current dvd, I think it has a fine chance to get into Criterion. Its just a matter of when.
Title: Re: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Ravi on November 15, 2005, 09:24:49 PM
Do you think I Am Cuba being an Image title could help its chances of being licensed to Criterion or does Image also license their titles from the rightsholders?
Title: Re: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 15, 2005, 09:29:45 PM
Quote from: Ravi on November 15, 2005, 09:24:49 PM
Do you think I Am Cuba being an Image title could help its chances of being licensed to Criterion or does Image also license their titles from the rightsholders?

Image owns Criterion. The question is whether Image still owns I Am Cuba. They likely do, but no word lately on this title being in the pipeline for a future Criterion release.

Criterion has to be the greatest and most depressing job. Greatest for the work on films you do, depressing for the films you can't do work on.
Title: Re: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Ravi on November 16, 2005, 12:05:46 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 15, 2005, 09:29:45 PM
Criterion has to be the greatest and most depressing job. Greatest for the work on films you do, depressing for the films you can't do work on.

There must have been many titles they worked hard to get the rights to, only to have the deal kiboshed at the last minute.
Title: Re: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 16, 2005, 12:25:41 AM
Quote from: Ravi on November 16, 2005, 12:05:46 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 15, 2005, 09:29:45 PM
Criterion has to be the greatest and most depressing job. Greatest for the work on films you do, depressing for the films you can't do work on.

There must have been many titles they worked hard to get the rights to, only to have the deal kiboshed at the last minute.

Oh god... Husbands and Wives, The Game, Eraserhead, a Mark Romanek Collection and now, Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. Just imagine how much longer the list is to those who work there.
Title: Re: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Ravi on November 16, 2005, 12:37:22 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 16, 2005, 12:25:41 AM
Husbands and Wives

I assume this was in the LD days, since Woody Allen does not like extras for his DVDs.
Title: Re: What DVDs should Criterion put out?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 16, 2005, 12:42:09 AM
Quote from: Ravi on November 16, 2005, 12:37:22 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 16, 2005, 12:25:41 AM
Husbands and Wives

I assume this was in the LD days, since Woody Allen does not like extras for his DVDs.

Someone who posts at the Criterion forum and use to work there says they kept a file on this film for the first few years after the transition to DVD.