Most Overrated Movie of the Year

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Pastor Parsley

#45
May 23, 2003, 05:22:12 PM
Quote from: Satcho9Redirect me if this has been brought up before: But my pick for most overrated movie of the year is Minority Report.

I second That!

Banky

#46
May 23, 2003, 05:50:16 PM
why the hell is everyone bashing signs.  Its not like it got overwhelming critical praise.  The movie never tried to be something it was not.  It was a good thriller about aliens.  If you want to talk about over rated, how about Ebert saying that Minority Report was "A Masterpeice" and "The Best Movie of The Year"

chainsmoking insomniac

#47
May 24, 2003, 12:15:23 PM
Can we say Matrix???
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Pubrick

#48
May 24, 2003, 12:52:44 PM
Quote from: punchdrunk23Can we say Matrix???
no.

u can tho. i'll just sit over here and wonder about getting a new mouse mat, even tho i don't need one.
under the paving stones.

Derek237

#49
May 24, 2003, 02:34:53 PM
The Hours. Suicidal lesbians...

godardian

#50
May 24, 2003, 03:30:43 PM
Quote from: Derek237The Hours. Suicidal lesbians...

I picked The Hours as overrated, too, but not because it wasn't a good movie. Just that it was overrated.

I would've assumed that a movie about said suicidal lesbians would've felt a tiny bit more unique or original. That was my main complaint. It was a smooth, solid production overall, but given the sky-high praise, I expected more. Patricia Clarkson was a much cooler suicidal lesbian (and Fassbinderaktor!) in High Art, and ya didn't see that sweeping the awards ceremonies.

I love Michael Cunningham's book, too, and it's not that the movie did the book any great injustice, but... it just wasn't a spectacular movie. It maintained its dignity and wasn't embarrasingly bad by any stretch, but I find those are really the best things I can say about it. It didn't excite me. All the unwarranted excitement renders it overrated, to my mind. It was better than a helluva lot of other movies, but those movies didn't get overpraised like this one.
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Ernie

#51
May 24, 2003, 05:34:44 PM
far from heaven
gangs of new york
minority report
spider man (yes, I did used to like it  :oops: )

Gangs was a disappointment only by fault of the ridiculously high Scorsese standards - but I did like it. You know what I fucking loved though? About Schmidt. It grew on my like I don't even know what.

godardian

#52
May 24, 2003, 05:55:35 PM
Now, I think Far from Heaven deserved every bit of its praise.

And I agree that About Schmidt was one of the very best movies last year. That, Punch-Drunk Love, and Far from Heaven were my top 3.
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

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Ghostboy

#53
May 24, 2003, 08:37:42 PM
You know, I don't think Gangs Of New York was that overrated. The response seemed to be lukewarm at best, even in reviews that gave it an overall thumbs up. The Oscar nom was clearly just to placate Scorsese...he's been robbed so many times, but for once he actually didn't deserve to win.

Ernie

#54
May 24, 2003, 09:44:49 PM
Quote from: GhostboyYou know, I don't think Gangs Of New York was that overrated. The response seemed to be lukewarm at best, even in reviews that gave it an overall thumbs up. The Oscar nom was clearly just to placate Scorsese...he's been robbed so many times, but for once he actually didn't deserve to win.

Yes, that is true. He deserved that nomination more than any other living filmmaker. The Pianist better be damn good for Polanski beating him out, I'm renting it this coming weekend.

Pedro

#55
May 24, 2003, 10:13:54 PM
Quote from: ebeaman
Quote from: GhostboyYou know, I don't think Gangs Of New York was that overrated. The response seemed to be lukewarm at best, even in reviews that gave it an overall thumbs up. The Oscar nom was clearly just to placate Scorsese...he's been robbed so many times, but for once he actually didn't deserve to win.

Yes, that is true. He deserved that nomination more than any other living filmmaker. The Pianist better be damn good for Polanski beating him out, I'm renting it this coming weekend.
Oh the Pianist is that good.  Trust me.

Duck Sauce

#56
May 25, 2003, 12:32:56 AM
Im going to go ahead and say Far From Heaven, I cant understand why it was the jewel of 2002. I disliked it, found it boring but can see how some people could see it as a good movie. But I cant see how some people can see it as a GREAT movie

ProgWRX

#57
May 25, 2003, 10:00:42 AM
i would have to say Chicago, hands down.

I enjoyed it A LOT, but IMO it defines the term OVERRATED.


other previous winners of the term , again IMO, are the Matrix and Fight Club (Ie: movies which *are* solid good movies, but people treat them like the second coming of Film-Christ)
-Carlos

modage

#58
May 25, 2003, 11:21:18 PM
i would have to say CHICAGO as well.  liked it, but not THAT much.  you'd think the public had never seen a musical before.
Christopher Nolan's directive was clear to everyone in the cast and crew: Use CGI only as a last resort.

godardian

#59
May 26, 2003, 12:53:16 AM
Quote from: Duck SauceIm going to go ahead and say Far From Heaven, I cant understand why it was the jewel of 2002. I disliked it, found it boring but can see how some people could see it as a good movie. But I cant see how some people can see it as a GREAT movie

I think that it's because, unlike Todd Haynes's other films (which range from very good efforts to absolute breathtaking perfection, in my opinion), it works on both his usual autocritical, highly skeptical, yet never ironic level (the style of the film opposes its content to the extent that the viewer is challenged to at least ponder the how and why of their response) and on a good old-fashioned, narrative, plot-driven entertainment. It's quite a feat to pull off, because it achieves some of the greatest things that can be achieved in either context, and does it simultaneously and seamlessly. Haynes doesn't look down on his material, he looks at it from the outside; he's always sidestepped the Hollywood/indie binary in this way, and as such is a very singular, very unique cinematic voice. Since the Brechtian alienation effect is so much more subdued in Far from Heaven, lending it more accessibility to more people, it can be considered the most subversive film from one of our more creative, intelligent, and talented makers of subversive film.

I can't claim that any Academy members or newspaper critics had these observations running through their skulls; they're just what occurs to me as a longtime devout Haynes fan for whom Far from Heaven really was one of 2003's best.
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

Stay informed on protecting your freedom of speech and civil rights.
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