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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2007, 09:58:22 AM »
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yeah a real bummer. 

that bbc piece is hilarious, they just have a total misunderstanding of what the site is, and it seems the cleveland police do too. 

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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2007, 10:22:47 AM »
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The orgs that are listed aern't even law enforcement agencies. It's just a bunch of vigilantes probably paid off by the music industry. It's a collection of bumbling idiots who come together to stop music nerds from downloading stuff they can't find at best buy, circuit city, and any other chain record store that they are paid to help. Fucking ridiculous.
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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2007, 11:38:20 AM »
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OiNK Founder Speaks: 'I Haven't Done Anything Wrong'
Alan Ellis compares OiNK to Google, claims 'I am not making any OiNK users break the law.'
By Chris Harris; MTV

The man behind OiNK, an invite-only file-sharing site that provided illegal downloads of pre-release music and media to its more than 180,000 members before authorities shut it down Tuesday, has broken his silence in an interview with British tabloid the Daily Telegraph.

Alan Ellis, 24, who created OiNK more than three years ago, posted bail on Wednesday. He was arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to defraud and copyright infringement Tuesday, as part of an Interpol-led investigation.

"I haven't done anything wrong," he told the paper. "I don't believe my Web site breaks the law. They don't understand how it works. The Web site is very different from how the police are making it out to be. There is no music sold on the site — I am doing nothing wrong."

Ellis said OiNK is "no different [than] something like Google — if Google directed someone to a site they can illegally download music [from], they are doing the same as what I have been accused of. I am not making any OiNK users break the law. People don't pay to use the site."

While police claim OiNK generated thousands of pounds in revenue, Ellis, an IT consultant who operated the site from his apartment in Middlesbrough in the north of England, wouldn't discuss whether the site's users had made financial "donations" to the site. While they could contribute via debit and credit card payments, OiNK membership was not contingent on payment.

Ellis said that when he set up OiNK, "I didn't think I was doing anything illegal and I still don't." He contended that people who download music illegally "also buy CDs as well," saying that many of OiNK's users "download[ed] music ... to get a taste of it and then later buy the CD. But I don't sell music to people — I just direct them to it. If somebody wants to illegally download music, they are going to do it whether my site is there or not."

He said he was fired from his job the day he was arrested.

Meanwhile, former OiNK users are waiting for news on the legal ramifications of using the site. Authorities have warned that "an investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's users"; OiNK's Amsterdam-based servers have been seized by police, and could help investigators determine the identities of the OiNK faithful. But a police spokesman told the Daily Telegraph that it was still "too early to tell if we will go after individuals — it all depends on what we find."

Ellis thinks that if his case does make it to court, it could set a very dangerous precedent. "It will change the Internet as we know it," he said. "As far as I am aware, no one in Britain has ever been taken to court for running a Web site like mine."
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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2007, 08:56:09 AM »
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why are you americans/canadians even worrying? this shit is in BRITAIN. what the fuck jurisdiction do they have in the US and even then why would they target a bunch of randomly selected pimply faced losers when they can nab the dateless wonder who runs the thing? seriously you guys are falling for the scare tactics. this dude cannot lose this case. it's the effing internets for christ's sake.
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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2007, 10:30:59 AM »
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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2007, 04:28:23 PM »
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It seems the recently shut-down OiNK has given way to a new torrent site, according to Torrent Freak. Called "BOiNK," the site will be hosted by the Pirate Bay and will launch sometime this week.
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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2007, 02:48:48 PM »
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Okay, so the two sites that are supposed to replace OiNK are in an arms race right now. What.cd and waffles.fm. What.cd is live and has been for a week, it's still shaky, but it looks good, waffles.fm just went live this morning and it was invite only from the start while what.cd was firts 200 to sign up then invite only.

I am a member of what.cd, but I need to become a member of waffles.fm. If anyone wants to trade a waffles.fm invite for a what.cd invite, pm me.
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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2007, 02:27:07 PM »
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Yea I'm trying to find my alternative, as well. If anyone manages to get any invites for either site I'll take them. All I can really trade is karagarga invites.

EDIT: Looks like Karagarga has moved/is down or something. Can't send invites until I figure that out.

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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2007, 11:56:48 PM »
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Yea I'm trying to find my alternative, as well. If anyone manages to get any invites for either site I'll take them. All I can really trade is karagarga invites.

EDIT: Looks like Karagarga has moved/is down or something. Can't send invites until I figure that out.

I am a member of what.cd and will be a memeber of waffles.fm. I'll see what I can do about invites. But you guys better be good members and keep your ratios up to par.
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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2007, 12:12:50 AM »
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i feel bad asking, but i will anyway.  invites to either would be great, i'm lost without file sharing. 

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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2007, 01:32:23 AM »
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Registration and inviting is cut off at BOTH for the moment. But with what.cd (I haven't been invited to Waffles yet) we're still racking up invites, we just can't send them out. The invites will come flooding out as soon as they are allowed to be sent.
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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2007, 07:38:33 AM »
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Waffles would be good. I don't understand why one of these services didn't open up registration, obviously it would attract all of the old Oink users.

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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2007, 08:30:44 AM »
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Their servers can only hold so much.

I've been reading that Waffles is a bit suspicious. I don't know where it came from but somebody somewhere found this:
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I may not be Sherlock Holmes, but I keep my ear to the ground and I like to think that I'm not entirely oblivious to what I hear...and right now, I dunno about anyone else, but my instincts are screaming bloody murder. This all seems a little expensive for some bratty 17 year old porn site admin in Ireland, not to mention requiring a little more depth of character to set up.
Even if it is all kosher, something in here isn't quite adding up:
#1. This kid's obviously intelligent enough to set up Waffles - it does exist, after all...nobody's denying that.
#2. And yet, he's dumb enough that all of his private information - full (real) name, address, phone number, high school, etc - are easily found through an online search.
#3. But even if he really is that dumb, he should at least be wealthy enough to pay someone who does know how to do these things to do it for him - switching servers like that costs money, and as pointed out above, it's certainly not money he's afraid to spend.
#4. How on earth does a bratty 17 year old porn site admin have that much cash, and where on earth is he getting it from?
#5. It states on the Wikichan that one of the major reasons for his porno site shutting down was his parents finding out about it. What happens when they find out about this? After all, if he's not intelligent enough to hide his info from me, he's certainly not intelligent enough to hide it from his parents. And while porno may be unarguably legal, however morally objectionable it is, the legal status of filesharing is anything but clear right now, and I doubt his conservative Roman Catholic parents would want their son taking part in such a thing, let alone orchestrating it.
#6. Why all the location changes? Why not just base the bloody thing in Sweden to begin with and avoid all the hassle?

I dunno. I'm almost certain that something's not right here...keep your eyes peeled, and if you're not a member already, I certainly wouldn't recommend becoming one.

Also, if I get an invite I'll of course not be an asshole. I had a 2.2 ratio at OiNK, 20+ gigs uploaded.

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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2007, 08:52:44 AM »
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Wooo, Finally got a Waffles.fm invite.

It was from the site admin who saw the screenshot I sent of my original OiNK invite, so anyone else who sent proof back when we thought that's all we needed to get invited should be getting theirs too.
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Re: tips for Oink ratio (and now alternatives to oink)
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2007, 11:57:48 AM »
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Date:    12 Nov 2007 11:42:18 +0100
To:   bonanzataz@yahoo.com
Subject:   Music Piracy
From:   piracy@riaa.org


Dear registered user of the site What.cd,

We have recently been investigating the activities of the users of the
site http://www.what.cd/ and we have found that this site exists for
 the
sole purpose of music piracy.

Pirating music is a criminal offence and we believe it should be
 obvious
to you that the results outweigh the benefits - hard working artists
won't be rewarded for their work and will stop producing music,
ultimately leading to a severely reduced selection of music both in the
 
shops and for download.

The RIAA had hoped that the disabling by the police of the large
 illegal
music site, Oink.cd, would stop a lot of people from engaging in
 piracy,
as they don't want to be seen as criminals. However, this appears to
not be the case, as two large new sites have sprung up in its place.

This email is the final warning to all of you who were members of
Oink.cd and are current members of What.cd. If we find you to be
committing any more criminal acts of piracy then we will have to press
charges against you, as representatives of the major record companies
 of
America.

Yours Faithfully,

The RIAA



EDIT: apparently this is a fake. some british kids that had beef with the oink admins were trying to shut them down or something. i'm gonna keep downloading.
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