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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2007, 10:04:04 AM »
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Wait. You complain about that and then fess up that the Beatles album was your #1 for last year, then still keep on complaining?

Many of these older films that do get on critic lists usually are ones that have gone by the way side of actually getting a true US release. Even when The Red Big One was re-released, it was done so in a version that had never been seen before. I don't see the need for complaining. Citizen Kane didn't get a true European release until the 1950s and it became appreciated to levels as if it was new and groundbreaking work. I'm sure it did make many best of lists (if there were critics besides the young French critics making lists). Then it became a permanent staple on Sight and Sound. Should the Europeans have only considered it an older work and thus displaced some of their appreciation?



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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2007, 10:16:30 AM »
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best rerelease
newly discovered gem
etc.
whatever

any of those will sit just fine under/above 'pretty good' and 'way overrated' as extra categories worth mentioning, but a re-release has no place on a Top 10 list for that year.  The Beatles do not have any place on a Top 10 list for last year either, that was my point.  appreciate them all you want, not eligible.  i saw brewster mccloud in the theatre last week, is that my favorite film of 2007?  no!  because it was not made or originally released this year!
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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2007, 10:45:45 AM »
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Because Army of Shadows was made in the 60s, does not mean it doesn't deserve a true premiere in the United States. Such a premiere would make it elligible for top ten lists in that year. Numerous foreign films are released in the US years after their initial release and treated as new releases. The difference is that they are usually released only a few years afterward. But, every film does deserve the right to get a proper rolling out in a given country. Highlighting Army of Shadows in top ten lists would be giving it the very best promotion to be seen by everyone. That's the entire point of these top ten lists. Top ten lists are not strict representations of just films made in given years. They never have been.

Brewster McCloud has had its premiere in the US. Its been seen everywere, including on television, for many years. It's not the same situation as Army of Shadows

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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2007, 10:49:47 AM »
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whatever.  its a bullshit cop-out for snobs.  i stand by this

2.  Army of Shadows
i realize all the snobby critics are doing this but its absolute bullshit.  this is a 60's film, regardless of its US release/re-release, it's absolutely not eligible.  oh yeah, The Beatles Love album came out last year, thats my number 1 album of 2006.  if you really couldnt find 10 films from last year that you liked enough to constitute a Top 10 list, and had to pick a film released almost 40 years ago then you suck.  sorry JG, not directed at you, just a general rant i've been thinking about since i started reading that.
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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2007, 06:25:01 AM »
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Wait. You complain about that and then fess up that the Beatles album was your #1 for last year, then still keep on complaining?
you missed his sarcastic point.

Even when The Red Big One was re-released
The Big Red One.

i agree with mod on this. there has to be a standard by which films are categorized even in lists. when australian ppl put the previous year's films in their new lists, i think that's all well and good, but we all know australian release dates don't mean anything to the world. the point is the movie should always be thought of as been from whatever era it was made. maybe delayed releases are negligible if the dates are one year apart, but when a film is from a different era like Army of Shadows, it may have been released this year in america but it cannot be listed as one of "the best films of 2006" because it has nothing to do with 2006. give it a separate category if necessary, it makes no sense to lump it with contemporary lists which are indeed meant to reflect the time we live in.

i guess it all leads the hot potato question of where life begins.. and well, like everything else, films can only have one birthday.
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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2007, 11:29:14 AM »
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So what should the cutoff point be? 

Wasn't Hero, for example, held off in the US for about 2 years after its release in China?  How long does a film have to be held from release in a country before it loses the right to be considered for a top 10 list of the year it's finally released in that country?  I agree that the Army of Shadows thing is something of a cop-out but it's more of a technicality than snobbery.  Like that Charlie Chaplin film from the 50s that didn't get Oscar consideration until the 70s because it hadn't ever played in LA until then. 

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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2007, 01:15:51 PM »
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let's say the statue of limitations would be 5 years to give all the Hero's and Oldboy's and Shaolin Soccers a chance to open everywhere.  after that its repertory even if it hasnt technically been released in your country.  by the time 4 decades have passed,  i dont think it really is a question anymore.
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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2007, 01:26:42 PM »
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let's say the statue of limitations...


It's statute. A statute of limitations.

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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2007, 09:37:45 PM »
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why the fuck would anyone put Hero on any year's top 10 list?
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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2007, 01:19:54 AM »
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i know it's late, but--

1: INLAND EMPIRE.

2: children of men

The Rest:

3: borat
4: science of sleep
5: the departed
6: brick
7: little miss sunshine
8: prairie home companion
9: jesus camp
10: thank you for smoking

I still need to see quite a bit, including Pan's Labyrinth, Blood Diamond, Volver, the Fountain, L'Enfant, and Casino Royale among others.
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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2007, 02:12:08 PM »
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This could change as I catch up:

1.) The Departed
2.) United 93
3.) Children of Men
4.) Letters from Iwo Jima
5.) Pan's Labrinyth
6.) Borat
7.) Flags of our Fathers
8.) An Inconvenient Truth
9.) The Queen
10.) Casino Royale
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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2007, 02:45:58 PM »
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I saw pretty much everything that I wanted to see except for (off the top of my head) Old Joy, The Lives of Others, and Perfume, so this probably won't change much.

1 Children of Men
2 When The Levees Broke
3 A Scanner Darkly
4 Shortbus
5 United 93
6 Pan's Labyrinth
7 Rocky Balboa
8 Nanny McPhee
9 An Inconvenient Truth
10 Time To Rest (Le Temps Qui Reste)

Actually it might change just because I haven't really given it much thought.  Actually it probably won't change because I don't think about lists enough to re-think them.  I've likely forgotten something, though.

Best performance of the year, I think, was Ryan Gosling in Half Nelson.

Worst movie was Hard Candy.

And I want to mention INLAND EMPIRE.  I don't know what to say about it, but I wanted to mention it.  Call it a special mention, because I just can't rank it.

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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2007, 03:06:06 PM »
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i saw a bit of Nanny McPhee on HBO and i'm curious how it ended up on your Top 10.  if you haven't reviewed it elsewhere, could you explain yourself here?
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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2007, 03:56:04 PM »
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Yes, I gave my thoughts in the one and only post in the Nanny McPhee thread.

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Re: TOP 10 2006
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2007, 04:46:57 AM »
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I saw pretty much everything that I wanted to see except for (off the top of my head) Old Joy, The Lives of Others, and Perfume, so this probably won't change much.

1 Children of Men
2 When The Levees Broke
3 A Scanner Darkly
4 Shortbus
5 United 93
6 Pan's Labyrinth
7 Rocky Balboa
8 Nanny McPhee
9 An Inconvenient Truth
10 Time To Rest (Le Temps Qui Reste)

NOW the list goes...

1 Children of Men
2 When The Levees Broke
3 Old Joy
4 A Scanner Darkly
5 Shortbus
6 United 93
7 Pan's Labyrinth
8 Volver
9 Rocky Balboa
10 L'Enfant

 

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