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Re: Grind House
« Reply #360 on: August 11, 2010, 01:00:01 PM »
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yes, it's major flaw is precisely that.
Though I don't know how much money went into actually making them look cheaper. Death Proof's car chase sequence seems pretty expensive and I think it was worth the investment. Planet Terror is not really fun.

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Re: Grind House
« Reply #361 on: August 11, 2010, 02:36:22 PM »
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yes, it's major flaw is precisely that.
Though I don't know how much money went into actually making them look cheaper. Death Proof's car chase sequence seems pretty expensive and I think it was worth the investment. Planet Terror is not really fun.

agreed, planet terror would have been better without RR sense of humor, which is childish. it was supposidly "the film that john carpenter never made right after escape from NY" but JC would have never had a guy collecting testicles for example.
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Re: Grind House
« Reply #362 on: December 12, 2010, 09:40:10 PM »
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I must say to all those who think RR's sense of humor was a flaw in "Planet Terror": that was the ONLY thing that gave me any redeeming value in Robert Rodriguez's work.  I mean, Sin City was fun but sometimes the SFX were just...KINDA bad. even if most of them weren't. and the pacing.  with Planet Terror, it seemed like he wasn't afraid to make bad stuff fun.  I know some of us want him to be the next John Carpenter, yeah, and there was a major 80s influence over this film, but if it wasn't for the humor mixed with over the top carnage, this would not have been worth half of my 4 hours in the theatre.

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Re: Grind House
« Reply #363 on: December 12, 2010, 10:31:16 PM »
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oh yeah, he's definitely right. I like Tarantino's movie better overall but if I didn't have all that schlock and cheez to start out with I'd be in for a major upset.
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Re: Grind House
« Reply #364 on: December 13, 2010, 10:53:43 AM »
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I must say to all those who think RR's sense of humor was a flaw in "Planet Terror": that was the ONLY thing that gave me any redeeming value in Robert Rodriguez's work.  I mean, Sin City was fun but sometimes the SFX were just...KINDA bad. even if most of them weren't. and the pacing.  with Planet Terror, it seemed like he wasn't afraid to make bad stuff fun.  I know some of us want him to be the next John Carpenter, yeah, and there was a major 80s influence over this film, but if it wasn't for the humor mixed with over the top carnage, this would not have been worth half of my 4 hours in the theatre.

I don't want him to be john carpenter, when i mentioned Carpenter it's because that's what he and tarantino say on the commentary/special features. to call it the john carpenter movie that was never made is idiotic, john carpenter never intended to ham it up. when he did ham it up, it was unintentional or just bad taste without the intent of it, something that RR doesn't get.  In a John Carpenter movie the 4th wall is never broken.  RR's films are fanboy made and thus breaks the 4th wall constantly with a post modern, tongue and cheek wink at the audience all throughout.  he oozes reference and constantly attempts to connect with the audience's tastes. John Carpenter made a film, for better or worse, and his audience connected with the film or didn't.

no film maker will have a lasting fanboy picture unless he/she focuses on the material. these aren't exploitation films he's making, he's making farce bubble gum exploitation with no grit or sense of adventure.
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Re: Grind House
« Reply #365 on: February 15, 2012, 10:11:35 AM »
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Neill Cumpston's GRINDHOUSE review
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Remember, when George W. Bush was elected, and he said that thing about how, by 2008, we’d have “movies that would explode in our balls like a shotgun filled with handjobs”?

Well, that promise came true two days ago when I saw GRINDHOUSE in Hollywood. Except not only was it a shotgun full of handjobs exploding in my balls, but also my balls suddenly knew how to make fire using karate. All from seeing GRINDHOUSE, a movie that’s made of screaming car crash zombie boobs.

It isn’t even a movie – it’s TWO movies with some trailers and stuff at the beginning, and also between the movies. The directors – more about them in a second (there’s TWO!) – wanted to recreate the way movies were back in the 1920’s, when you could sell a script that was one page that just said, “TITS THEN A MONSTER THEN MORE TITS THEN AN EXPLOSION THEN BONUS TITS” and everyone knew what you were talking about.

Also, there’s zombies getting killed by a helicopter, which is not only cool to look at, but shows how the movie-makers did some research, to make things realistic.

First off, the movie lets you know you’re going to get your poop kicked out of you, formed into a set of brass knuckles, and now here comes a poop-punch.

Because they show a trailer for a movie I need to see RIGHT NOW with my eyes (I already saw it in my head when I was driving last week and Van Halen’s “Panama” came on the radio and I’d just started eating a Payday). It’s called MACHETE, and it’s got that Mexican guy who’s always in movies where there’s people who really need knives stuck into them, and he’s always, “Here, let’s get those knives in you”. Danny something.

Whatever his last name is, he should change it to, “Fuck-a-dilly” because everyone says that automatic when they see him, because he’s going to bring the fuck-a-dilly to the movie, which will probably involve a foot, a face, and foot-face-fuckup. Also, Cheech from Cheech and The Chong is in the trailer, and he’s a priest and he’s shooting people, which is ironic, I think.

Then the first movie starts. It’s called PLANET OF TERROR, and it’s about a planet (which looks a lot like Earth) that’s made of pure terror. Here’s how shit-scream terrorizing it is: there’s these mutated kill-monsters, but even BEFORE they show up there’s all this fucking terror. Like a doctor who wants to kill his doctor wife, and the doctor wife is always sticking these three needles into people which fucks them up, and there’s a sheriff who’s played by that Reese guy from TERMINATOR robot. The sheriff looks like he’s always going to kill someone by crushing a bunch of walnuts in his mouth and spitting the shells through their skull.

So, there’s a lot of shit like that, plus Fergie’s cleave, some bar-b-q, bad parenting, Bruce Willis turning into a monster, and Rose McGowan with a machine gun for a leg. I’ve never seen a woman I wanted so bad to rub one out to, but also kind of killed my boner in a way that gave me a bigger boner. Oh yeah, she almost-nude dances for the first three minutes of the movie and even though she doesn’t get totally naked I need to go buy three extra PAUSE buttons for my remote by the time the DVD comes out.



!!!WARNING, MAJOR SPOILER!!!










Rose McGowan will make you cluster-spooge in your pants.











!!!END SPOILER!!!



PLANET OF TERROR is directed by Robert Rodriquez, which is all I need to say. In fact, instead of his name on poster saying, “Directed By”, he can legally change his name to a picture of a naked Viking woman on a snowmobile with flamethrowers out the back and the flamethrowers are killing a Yeti. That’s the level of guaranteed quality his name brings to stuff.

Then there’s three other trailers – one by Rob Zombie that involves Nazis and werewolves (more factual research), one by Edgar Wright that made me laugh harder than seeing an old man give the finger to a fat kid, and then one by Eli Roth that Eli Roth should make.

Actually, the fake trailers are kind of a bummer, because I really wish they weren’t fake. Maybe the government will put some “don’t be a pussy” drug in the water supply, and everyone will go see this instead of PILLOW FIGHT AND SCENTED CANDLES AND BOREDOM, or whatever Sandra Bullock movie’s coming out, and they’ll make more of these.

Then the second movie started. It’s called DEATH PROOF. You know what it isn’t-PROOF? Boner-inducing proof.

This one was directed by Quentin Tarantino, who’s been an actor in stuff like RESERVOIR DOGS and PULP FICTION (he’s also in PLANET OF TERROR and DEATH PROOF). This is his first directing job and the dude KICKS ALL SPECTRUM OF ASS. He kicks ass that isn’t even in the ass area. Like, his director skills are so stripper-with-chainsaw good they make you grow asses on other parts of your body that he then kicks. I hope he directs more movies. I would see them, burn down the theater, and then call the fire department so I could tell all the fireman about what a kick-ass movie it was. When they started to attack me with axes, I’d fly away because Quentin’s movie would have given me ninja flight.

DEATH PROOF is about this dude, Driver Mike, and he’s played by Kurt Plissken, and goddamn but that dude just gets more bad-ass as he gets older. You know how Sly Stallone kind of looks like Bea Arthur now, and Jean-Claude Van Damme looks like Ally Sheedy? Well, Kurt Plissken looks like a dumpster full of drop kicks. He could fuck a bulldozer into eight Mini Coopers. Fuck, I should pitch that to someone.

Anyway, he’s this crazy dude who gets off by killing four girls at a time in cars. Like, he’s got this car, this death proof stunt car, and he kills women by either

1. Giving them a ride in the car, and bashing them around in this special seat so they feel like they’ve watched the PINK PANTHER remake twelve times or

2. Going all Mad Max meets Humungous head-on dead-on kill-crazy.


!!!WARNING, MAJOR SPOILER!!!










The title, DEATH PROOF, refers to Kurt’s car being “death proof”.










!!!END SPOILERS!!!




We get to see Kurt fucking up these four hotties with a car crash, but then – and this is where, if you’re with your girlfriend, she’ll realize how sensitive you are – he fucks with the wrong women, and let’s just say the audience I saw it with almost gave the ending a standing ovation. But their boners would have knocked over popcorn and sodas, so they just happy- screamed instead.

First 300 and now this? I think the summer of 2007 just went, “Hey, let me take you to a free taquito buffet” and you eat all these taquitos and then the summer goes, “Here comes a foot to your stomach”, but you go, “It’s full of taquitos” but it’s too late – there’s a boot in your stomach only the boot is really a motorcycle and you puke up a bikini girl who blows you and then kills your boss with a hammer.

That’s what GRINDHOUSE is. It’s a taquito buffet that you puke up after getting hit with a motorcycle, and it turns into a bikini chick that blows you and kills your boss with a hammer.

Rodriguez and Tarantino probably don’t read this site, but someone should tell them they can use that last paragraph as a quick blurb.
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Re: Grind House
« Reply #366 on: February 16, 2012, 04:19:51 AM »
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Seriously, what year is this?
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Re: Grind House
« Reply #367 on: February 16, 2012, 06:02:47 AM »
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5 years later than it should've been when I discovered the brilliance of Neill Cumpston!
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Re: Grind House
« Reply #368 on: February 16, 2012, 10:04:12 AM »
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In another year, you'll be five years too late to be imagining Remy the Rat giving these reviews.

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Re: Grind House
« Reply #369 on: January 11, 2016, 06:23:00 PM »
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just rewathed death proof and i'm really happy that he made this. it seems to me that people was disappointed because they was expecting something else after kill bill, but I can't understand why people dislike it so much. it doesn't try to be anything that it isn't and it's really good at being what it is (worst sentence ever). what do you guys think about it nowdays?

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Re: Grind House
« Reply #370 on: January 11, 2016, 06:34:36 PM »
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i saw it the other day and i hated it still




edit: ok that is reductive i promise i'll elaborate at some point

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Re: Grind House
« Reply #371 on: January 11, 2016, 07:40:59 PM »
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I love 'Death Proof'! I think what people find off putting about it is how talky the movie is, and that the action isn't sprinkled enough into the talk. We were expecting more of a horror movie, but this really isn't. Quentin said the movies they would mostly watch around the time of shooting for inspiration were 80's sex comedies. It really does have the feel of like a "John Hughes Midnight movie", but most of us were so unfamiliar with that genre of the 70's road flick. He really does expect a lot on the audiences part in this one, and I think we were less eager to go along with his signature stamp of the drawn out conversations because it seemed like he was being a little too cute having his dialogue come out of such beautiful women's mouths. A criticism I'll give is that the movie could use a lot less characters. It gets to a point with the second gang of girls where it just seems like we're inside Quentin's head while he's talking to himself. Now that I bring that up, I remember listening to a podcast where Nacho Vigalondo ('TimeCrimes') goes into his theory that the second gang of girls were all part of the crew on 'Kill Bill' and the director Rosario's in love with is Quentin. So he's taking the male gaze one step further by having these women chat about him in the way we'd LIKE to think that they talk about us when we're not around, but we're really watching a heightened fantasy of his like we so often get in these slasher films with the gratuitous nudity and gore. Only Quentin is EMOTIONALLY masturbating on us with this. Is he onto something? I looked all over and that podcast was nowhere to be found.
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Re: Grind House
« Reply #372 on: January 12, 2016, 12:47:58 PM »
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...theory that the second gang of girls were all part of the crew on 'Kill Bill' and the director Rosario's in love with is Quentin. So he's taking the male gaze one step further by having these women chat about him in the way we'd LIKE to think that they talk about us when we're not around, but we're really watching a heightened fantasy of his like we so often get in these slasher films with the gratuitous nudity and gore. Only Quentin is EMOTIONALLY masturbating on us with this. Is he onto something? I looked all over and that podcast was nowhere to be found.

I'm not sure about all of that, but on this year's Hollywood Reporter roundtable, Quentin goes on about how proud he was to teach Zoe Bell to act on the Kill Bill set. She was Uma's stunt double and they clearly formed a huge bond, to the point where he wrote her a role in Death Proof and has worked with her in every film he's done since. So if Zoe's playing Zoe here, there's something to the theory of them being the Kill Bill crew.

She also probably taught him that hauntingly authentic Australian accent he graced us with in Django, so thanks for that Zoe.

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Re: Grind House
« Reply #373 on: January 12, 2016, 02:34:45 PM »
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the podcast:
http://directory.dev.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/shortstorylong/id/2155750

Death Proof arrives at 1:17:48

related to the conversation in the QT v PTA thread, Vigalondo talks about Death Proof being biographical, specifically dealing with the topic of female power killing male power.
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