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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2003, 05:38:35 PM »
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The FBI weren't badly cliched at all in this movie, they were built up as people who just worked on a different level than Del Toro.


Even though I'm a foot from you in distance, I'm not gonna put the gun to your temple, instead I'll point my gun at you, but just as I'm about to shoot, a bump from out of nowhere will make me shoot the driver, thus causing the truck to crash and let you get away.

I see you looking at the open window, but I'll shoot after you've already jumped out of it even though I know you have a knife behind you.

You're in a stolen car, and we have a whole force in cars behind you, but we'll jump out of our cars blocks behind, and walk the rest of the way up to you and let you drive your way out of there.

Whatever level that is.

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And also the scene where the FBI officer walks up to what is a dead body but believes it to be Del Toro, and then realizes it with the blood on the floor shows that he was smart, but Del Toro coming at him with a fighting technique to killing just caught him off guard because he didn't know how to defend himself against it.


But how long did it take him to realize it was not Del Toro's body? He keep shouting at it/him. He deserved to die for his stupidity of not calling for back up and not knowing it was an obvious decoy. Also, it makes the horror cliche of "let's all split up so the killer can pick us off one by one."
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2003, 09:03:28 PM »
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OK Mac, let's take this one by one.

1.) That is an incidental (yes, movieland) accident that had nothing to do with the skills of the officer pointing the gun but everything with what a bump in the road makes someone doing in aiming.

2.) FBI officer needed reason to shoot and kill. Since Del Toro did nothing to show reason to kill the officer at the time, it was under their mandate to try to arrest him first. As I am remember, something distracted the officer (yes, again) that permitted him time to jump out.

3.) Ah it was in a traffic jam. No way they could get closer without risking the lives of people in the cars. They had to get out.

4.) We, as the audience, knew it was a decoy. Him, as an officer in a dark place with one sight on the image, did not know til closer inspectation that it was a decoy. The darkness impaired his vision. And, he did call for backup before dying.

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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2003, 09:46:15 PM »
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1.) You missed my point. He was close enough that he didn't have to miss. Anyway, the agent next to Del Toro was too stupid to not see what was gonna happen with the chains, sitting so close and all.

2.) Didn't stop them from shooting at Del Toro as he was climbing the bridge without a weapon. Besides, this suspect killed 2 hunters and FBI agents. Jones' character also hints that the cutting up of the hunters sounded like cannibalism and pointed out what kind of weapon was used.

3.) Ah, I bet drawn weapons in that traffic jam was much safer; opposite sides of the cars, nice crossfire.

4.) And, he did call for backup before dying. No, "I got the suspect or suspect in sight" before approaching. Besides, it wasn't really that dark. He made out that it was a figure, and if it was that dark, more reason to have a partner/backup.


I don't mind some suspension of disbelief, but when the dis- outweighs the belief...
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2003, 07:17:25 PM »
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1.) But it was like a 2 second time difference of him pulling out the gun and the bump causing the crash. And also, given his knowledge for the capabilities of the Del Toro, he didn't want to automatically just shoot like a reflex. He may have, but within 2 seconds seems beyond likely.

2.) The reason for them shooting at Del Toro on the bridge because he was running from them. In the room, he was cornered and believed by the officer to be in a position to be arrested. The officer is still under duty to try to arrest because the man has not made any attempt to attack or flee at the time.  

3.) They did draw their weapons, but only that. Doing that was a precuation if they were to be fired upon by Del Toro as he was running away and it saves them time if they catch up to him to already have the gun drawn instead of taking a second to draw it.

4.) He made it out to be a figure, but only that. He could have called for backup, but it was his decision. If he felt he could take the man on his own at the outset, then it was his decision. That's a judgement call. I still do think it was too dark for him to be certain of anything and besides, his view point on the man didn't really give any details to who he may have been or what.

I think the disbelief of the movie comes from Jones acting like he was nervous about flying helicopters but looking calm when shown in one and then him walking normal when getting sliced up pretty good in the lake. Those are of disbelief, but not too bad to take away from the film in anyway.

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