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« on: June 28, 2005, 05:41:20 AM »
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I will be looking this up but maybe someone can help me before I find my answer. I'm told that using a film lens for a digital camera will lessen the shittiness of the digital image. I'm using a JVC, DVM-50 mini dv camcorder. Is it possible to get an adaptor for it in using a 16mm c-mount lens? I've never tried to enhance the quality of mini dv before so maybe there are some tips someone might have. The only trick I really know is to de-interlace in editing.

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2005, 08:00:54 AM »
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There are plug-ins that not only deinterlace, but try their best to make the image "film-like."  The best programs do actually help.  No they don't look like film, but they look much much better.  I use Magic Bullet, which is one of the best.

The best part about it is that you get much more control over the look of the image.  There's a part in the plugin where you get to adjust all the elements of the image as much as you like, so if you're specific about image like me, you'll appreciate that.  I go in shot-by-shot and adjust.  It ultimately will show in the final product.

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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2005, 08:48:22 AM »
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The lens alone will not make the image better...except the fact that it may be a better lens.   The higher end video cams that use film lens are better just by design...not b/c they use film lenses.  The chip is the biggest part of the equation.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2005, 08:55:58 AM »
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i dont know of any 16mm cl mount adapter for a camera of that level - i think one of the few prosumer cams that can mount spherical lenses (35mm) is the xl1-2. At the end of the day your still recording to tape.

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2005, 10:03:15 AM »
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I probably should look into a plug-in like that. It seems that's the only option I have. Thanks for the help.

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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2005, 11:21:19 PM »
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what're those plugins for that the editing program can't already do?

is magic bullet FCP 5 compatible?

are they free?
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2005, 12:10:23 AM »
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what're those plugins for that the editing program can't already do?

is magic bullet FCP 5 compatible?

are they free?

Magic Bullet is very expensive (... if you buy it).  I don't know if it's FCP 5 compatable, but I think it maybe is.  I use it with Adobe After Effects.

It's very powerful.  It deinterlaces, yes, but also uses what was captured to re-create the entire image frame by frame with a more film-like look.  You basically have to see it for yourself.  Like cowboykurtis said, embrace what you're using.  The final image you get here is better than video and not quite film--it's its own animal and I personally like its look.  So, embrace that look.  It also allows you to then adjust the image with a lot more control than an editing program will allow you to do.

I believe the website for "Magic Bullet Suite" (google that to find it) offers a free trial.  You have to use it to see what I mean, so I suggest doing that.  See if they have a version that works with FCP 5.

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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2005, 09:52:53 AM »
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Magic Bullet is very expensive (... if you buy it).  I don't know if it's FCP 5 compatable, but I think it maybe is.  I use it with Adobe After Effects.

It's very powerful.  It deinterlaces, yes, but also uses what was captured to re-create the entire image frame by frame with a more film-like look.  You basically have to see it for yourself.  Like cowboykurtis said, embrace what you're using.  The final image you get here is better than video and not quite film--it's its own animal and I personally like its look.  So, embrace that look.  It also allows you to then adjust the image with a lot more control than an editing program will allow you to do.

I believe the website for "Magic Bullet Suite" (google that to find it) offers a free trial.  You have to use it to see what I mean, so I suggest doing that.  See if they have a version that works with FCP 5.


800 bucks is far too expensive. What about downloading it off Limewire? Does anyone ever do that? I'm not sure if that's taking a risk of a law suit.

It says it has 24p capability but what does the p stand for?

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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2005, 01:15:27 PM »
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I downloaded it.

24p means 24 progressive frames.  That means 24 "solid" frames, not interlaced so it plays like film.  However, you can't make 29.97 frames into exactly 24 per second mathematically, so in truth, 24p is REALLY 23.98 or something like that.  It's not perfect.  In fact, it gives a little frame skip every minute or so because of it, and I personally don't like that.  I did my movie Poof! in 24p, but have since decided that I prefer making the 29.97 interlaced into 30 fps progressive.  It plays much smoother.  The 24p is a LITTLE BIT choppy.  Most people don't notice it, but I do.  Thomas Edison, my next movie, will be rendered in 30p.  Magic Bullet does 30p very well.  Despite the higher frame rate, it doesn't feel as fast as most video does--in the aspect of how 24 fps just looks different than 30 fps and is one of the things that makes video look like video.  It reaches a happy middle ground, I feel.

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2005, 12:58:22 AM »
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who the hell BUYS software? u only do that if u live with a cop.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2005, 03:25:17 PM »
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haha. i'm posting from a police station.

couldn't find any copies of Magic Bullet on limewire.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2005, 09:28:06 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2005, 04:00:16 PM »
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i checked on ebay.


the magic bullet mini wireless vibrator.


magic bullet healing hair treatment


magic bullet express blending system

no software.

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