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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2004, 02:15:09 PM »
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Well, are you going to be projecting these things on film, or are they going to shown on video? If video, you don't need ENR. It's a Technicolor process and it's VERY expensive. You can achieve a similar look while doing your video transfer in post-production.


these will be commercials existing only on video -- here is some info that a got from a rep i know at technicolor -- some of you may find it interesting:

He shot "Seven" in Super35, mostly on 5293 pushed one stop; he also flashed the negative. Then the print was bleach-bypassed. I don't know if he rated the filmstock faster due to the push-developing, or if he left it at 200 ASA and just let the pushing add density. He said that the pushing increased saturation, while the flashing lowered it and the contrast, and the bleach-bypass added contrast and lowered saturation. He also used some 5287 for some night photography, and 5245 for the ending daylight scenes.
I think he might have used the Panaflasher for his flashing. (In "Evita", he used the Varicon; he did less pushing, used diffusion filters, shot in anamorphic, and used the ENR process.)
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2004, 02:16:12 PM »
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Well, are you going to be projecting these things on film, or are they going to shown on video? If video, you don't need ENR. It's a Technicolor process and it's VERY expensive. You can achieve a similar look while doing your video transfer in post-production.


these will be commercials existing only on video -- here is some info that a got from a rep i know at technicolor -- some of you may find it interesting:

He shot "Seven" in Super35, mostly on 5293 pushed one stop; he also flashed the negative. Then the print was bleach-bypassed. I don't know if he rated the filmstock faster due to the push-developing, or if he left it at 200 ASA and just let the pushing add density. He said that the pushing increased saturation, while the flashing lowered it and the contrast, and the bleach-bypass added contrast and lowered saturation. He also used some 5287 for some night photography, and 5245 for the ending daylight scenes.
I think he might have used the Panaflasher for his flashing. (In "Evita", he used the Varicon; he did less pushing, used diffusion filters, shot in anamorphic, and used the ENR process.)
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2004, 03:20:59 PM »
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Interesting. I always liked the old 93 stock. I shot a short with it about a decade ago. It has pretty decent sensitivity and an interesting color palate. Both Memento and AI were shot with it, I believe. One thing though -- I'm almost certain they used ENR on Se7en, not a bleach bypass. I distinctly remember a lot of press about their use of ENR on it. We should point out that we're really talking about Darius Khondji, the DP.
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2004, 03:25:18 PM »
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Didn't Darius get booted on that, and Cronenweth took over?
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2004, 03:32:51 PM »
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Nope. That was Panic Room.

ENR and bleach bypass are different. Bypass simply leaves the silver nitrate on the celluloid. ENR is a resilvering process where it's taken out as it normally would be, but then at varying percents, depending on the look, the film is run through a bath of the silver to reattach it.
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