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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2004, 01:19:20 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2004, 04:32:20 AM »
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It's an interesting idea but I do not think it means that much. I just don't think PTA is preoccupied with the idea of race at all. He casts race to support a role, he doesn't create a role to support a race. Maybe he's guilty of subconcious steretyping but I wouldn't call it rascist. What I mean is, maybe he says to himself 'Okay, there is a murder in a slum of a woman's abusive boyfriend. ok slum, ok black kid." maybe he casts black characters as criminals b/c that's the message our societys ets. we carry that with us subconciously. But I don't really think that's it. I just don't think it concerns him too much. Don Cheadle is a bad example if you ask me b/c he is the most sympathetic character in Boogie Nights. His one moment of theft is not to show he's black so he steals. It's to show the lengths this sympathetic character will go to, to support his family when he is unfairly persecuted. And it's not like all the criminals in PTA films are black. Sydney is a gangster, Melora Walters is a coke head in Magnolia, William H. Macy robs his employer, the rednecks in PDL who assault Barry, Alfred Molena in Boogie Nights etc... I don't think PTA considers race in any way other than if it fits for the character's background in the story. He wanted to show an interracial relationship in Boogie Nights so one character had to be black etc... I really don't think he holds any prejudices. He doesn't concern himself with race as a filmmaker and he shouldn't. It's true their are not too many black characters in his films but so what. He grew up in the valley, he writes what he knows. And after all it's not like he's beholden to cast racially equal movies, that's silly.
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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2004, 02:46:46 AM »
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more like the truest thing you've ever heard.

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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2004, 02:33:40 PM »
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No wonder PTA deleted the restaurant washroom scene in Punch-Drunk Love where Phil LaMarr steals Sandler's wallet.

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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2004, 02:35:19 PM »
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Re: PTA likes to use different black guys...
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2010, 03:09:49 AM »
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this is one of the best threads of all time.

so to update:

black guy in PTA movies:
Hard Eight - Sam Jackson
Boogie Nights - Don Cheadle
Magnolia - Orlando Jones (SCENES DELETED)
Punch Drunk Love - No black guy

Chere Mill Be Blood - no black guy

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Hard Eight - John C Reily, Philip Baker Hall (SCENE DELETED)
Boogie Nights - Mark Walberg
Magnolia - John C Reily, Tom Cruise, Philip Seymour Hofman (Magnolia is the Godfather of PTA crying movies)
Punch Drunk Love - Adam Sandler

CMBB - Paul Dano

It's pretty safe to say that PTA is still a racist.
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2010, 03:57:10 AM »
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And with The Master (Masty?) being about Scientology, and Isaac Hayes being dead, I think it's safe to say the string of blacklessness will be extended to three.
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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2010, 09:00:35 AM »
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Chere Mill Be Blood - no black guy



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Re: PTA likes to use different black guys...
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2010, 12:23:39 AM »
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^ hahaha.

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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2010, 02:42:48 AM »
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« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2010, 07:31:42 AM »
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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2010, 10:15:53 AM »
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The title might change so maybe it's Moot, but I think it could be "Ma"... pronounced like you would call your mother.

This way we can discuss the similarities between Mag and Ma.

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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2010, 11:48:54 AM »
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This way we can discuss the similarities between Mag and Ma.

that could be useful in the future. ║║oh dudes, yesterday I saw a double feature of magma, it was magmanificent!║║

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« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2010, 12:27:14 PM »
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Based on this thread I think we should go with "Massuh."

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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2010, 04:00:23 AM »
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Based on this thread I think we should go with "Massuh."

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