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« on: February 25, 2004, 07:55:03 PM »
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Best dialogue writer out there

Who do you think is the best dialogist today?

Feel free to quote some orgasmic  lines.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2004, 07:58:20 PM »
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wow, that's like five new topics on your first day... i don't think i've created five topics my whole time here

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2004, 08:44:59 PM »
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i personally think cameron crowe writes wonderful dialogue.....

for example -----

ACCOUNTANT
So Lloyd, you graduated Lakeside, right?

LLOYD
Yes sir.

ACCOUNTANT
What are you going to do now?

JIM
Yeah Lloyd.  What are your plans for the future?

LLOYD
Spend as much time as possible with Diane before she leaves.

JIM
Seriously, Lloyd.

LLOYD
I'm totally and completely serious.

JIM
No, really.

LLOYD
You mean like career?  Uh, I don't know.  I've, I've thought
about this quite a bit sir, and I'd have to say considering
what's waiting out there for me, I don't want to sell anything,
buy anything or process anything as a career.  I don't want to
sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or
processed, or... process anything sold, bought or processed, or
repair anything sold, bought or processed, you know, as a career
I don't want to do that.  So, uh, my father's in the army, he
wants me to join, but I can't work for that corporation, so what
I've been doing lately is kickboxing, which is really a, uh, new
sport, but I think it's got a good future.  As far as career
longevity goes, I don't really know, because, you know, you can't
really tell.  Your training sticks as a fighter, you know,
but it's no good, you know, you have to be great, but I can't
really tell if I'm great until I've had a couple of pro fights.  
But I haven't been knocked out yet.  I don't know, I can't figure
it all out tonight sir, I'm just kinda hangin with your daughter.



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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2004, 10:23:05 PM »
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i think the writer with the most flowing and creative dialouge has got to be Quentin Tarantino. Also....Kevin Smith (though I don't like him much) has some good dialouge...in fact, the dialouge makes his movies. and bleck...Jersey Girl looks vomiticious.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2004, 04:04:27 PM »
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i think the writer with the most flowing and creative dialouge has got to be Quentin Tarantino. Also....Kevin Smith (though I don't like him much) has some good dialouge...in fact, the dialouge makes his movies. and bleck...Jersey Girl looks vomiticious.


Yeah, it kinda does but I still think that Smith will pull it off, as I do like his stuff.

Tarantino's great, but his dialogue by nature, as is Smith's, is highly stylized.  You hear those cadences and topics and you know that it's Tarantino (or someone pretending to be Tarantino).  In fact, most notable screenwriters have highly stylized dialogue, like putting a watermark on their script (Tarantino, Kevin Smith, the Coens, Spike Lee). I'm not saying it's a bad thing; it just is the case. That's why Jackie Brown is my favorite Tarantino script (though Pulp Fiction is my favorite Tarantino FILM); outside of Samuel L. Jackson's character, the script isn't very "Tarantino-sounding." It's great to see that he can do that.  The man is here to stay.

I would say that, of all the prominent filmmakers working today, that Cameron Crowe's dialogue is the most natural sounding, as eward pointed out.  He's a damn good screenwriter, not necessarily my favorite but he's great for "real" conversations.  PTA is another one; his dialogue is sort of stylized but not to such a degree that you'd know it was him without knowing it was him, if you know what I mean.

Going back a ways, Billy Wilder is the freakin MAN!  He is one of the best comedy writers ever.  The scripts he wrote with I.A.L. Diamond are just brilliant.  You can feel some of their influence in the Coen brothers' work, the sort of loopiness and incredible wordplay.  Check out The Apartment or One, Two, Three.

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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2004, 04:06:37 PM »
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Coens.

and to a lesser degree Mamet, even though his movies suck...
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2004, 11:44:54 PM »
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PT Anderson:

"My wife has an ass in her cock in the driveway, alright. I'm sorry if my thoughts are not on the photography of the film we're shooting tomorrow."

"Okay, now you're talking above my head. I don't know all of this industry jargon, YP, MP. All I know is that I can't get a record contract, we cannot get a record contract unless we take those tapes to the record company. And granted, the tapes themselves are a uh um oh, you own them, alright, but the magic that is on those tapes. That fucking heart and soul that we put onto those tapes, that is ours and you don't own that. Now I need to take that magic and get it over the record company. And they're waiting for us, we were supposed to be there a half hour ago. We look like assholes, man."

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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2004, 02:47:51 AM »
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David Gordon Green.
"Talking shit about a pretty sunset
Blanketing opinions that i'll probably regret soon"

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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2004, 06:18:02 AM »
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the bowling hall scenes in the big lebowski   --- my god

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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2004, 08:42:11 PM »
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Quote from: SHAFTR
David Gordon Green.

yessss.   i can tell he spends a lot of time on his dialogue...some of the conversations in his movies have to be prerecorded things from his life.

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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2004, 09:23:52 PM »
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Quote from: phil marlowe
the bowling hall scenes in the big lebowski   --- my god



seriously...now that i think about it. "Shut the fuck up, Donnie." I love it.
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2004, 12:07:56 AM »
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Donny, you're out of your element!

Dude, the chinaman is not the issue here!

Also, dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.

You know what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass???

Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not Mr. Lebowski. You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing

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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2004, 11:51:13 AM »
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Great dialogue through the ages:

Paul Schrader:  "Someday a real rain will come and wash all the scum off the streets."

Quentin Tarantino:  "It's like a wax museum with a pulse."

Daniel Waters:  "Bulimia is so 87."

Billy Wilder:  "I'm ready for my close up, Mr. De Mille."

John August:  "So Zack, are you open to new experiences?"
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2004, 03:38:02 PM »
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Ladies and Gentlemen; The great Paddy Chayefsky and his NETWORK    
                               

                                 DIANA

                -- Well, Max, here we are --

                middle-aged man reaffirming his

                middle-aged manhood and a

                terrified young woman with a

                father complex.  What sort of

                script do you think we can

                make out of this?

                           


 DIANA

                      (pushes her ice cream

                       away, regards him

                       affably)

                Terrified out of my skull, man.

                I'm the hip generation, man,

                right on, cool, groovy, the

                greening of America, man,

                remember all that? God, what

                humbugs we were.  In my first

                year at college, I lived in a

                commune, dropped acid daily,

                joined four radical groups and

                fucked myself silly on a bare

                wooden floor while somebody

                chanted Sufi sutras.  I lost six

                weeks of my sophomore year

                because they put me away for

                trying to jump off the top floor

                of the Administration Building.

                I've been on the top floor ever

                since.  Don't open any windows

                around me because I just might

                jump out.  Am I scaring you off?
                         
                              MAX

                No.

     
                            DIANA

                I was married for four years and

                pretended to be happy and had

                six years of analysis and pretended

                to be sane.  My husband ran off

                with his boyfriend, and I had an

                affair with my analyst.  He told

                me I was the worst lay he had

                ever had.  I can't tell you how

                many men have told me what a

                lousy lay I am.  I apparently

                have a masculine temperament.

                I arouse quickly, consummate

                prematurely, and can't wait to

                get my clothes back on and get

                out of that bedroom.  I seem

                to be inept at everything except

                my work.  I'm goddam good at my

                work and so I confine myself

                to that.  All I want out of life

                is a 30 share and a 20 rating.


                               MAX

                You need me badly!  I'm your

                last contact with human reality!

                I love you, and that painful,

                decaying menopausal love is the

                only thing between you and the

                shrieking nothingness you live

                the rest of the day!



      He slams the valise shut.



                            DIANA

                Then don't leave me!



                            MAX

                It's too late, Diana!  There's

                nothing left in you that I can live

                with!  You're one of Howard's

                humanoids, and, if I stay with you,

                I'll be destroyed!  Like Howard

                Beale was destroyed!  Like Laureen

                Hobbs was destroyed!  Like

                everything you and the institution

                of television touch is destroyed!

                You are television incarnate, Diana,

                indifferent to suffering,

                insensitive to joy.  All of life is

                reduced to the common rubble of

                banality.  War, murder, death are

                all the same to you as bottles of

                beer.  The daily business of life is

                a corrupt comedy.  You even shatter

                the sensations of time and space

                into split-seconds and instant

                replays.  You are madness, Diana,

                virulent madness, and everything you

                touch dies with you.  Well, not me!

                Not while I can still feel pleasure

                and pain and love!
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2004, 07:51:30 PM »
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mamet takes the cake -- i dont care who you know, you cousion you are, whos dick your suckin' -- im gonna have yo' job shithead.
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