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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2003, 12:38:33 AM »
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Are you sure about that?

yep. i was thinking about it, and i'm pretty sure about a few things. one that i'm alive. consequently, two, that we will all die. and because i hav faith in certain things, i'm also sure that death isn't/won't be the end of it all.
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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2003, 01:36:27 AM »
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given that we know nothing for definite, i dont base my life on anything like that


yeah, but isn't that what "faith" is?

just because you don't know something for sure doesn't mean it can't be. i myself do not practice a specific religion, but i do believe in god. all the major religions try to make people believe in goodness and practice good morals. it's the fundamentalists who want to adhere to all the "rules" that give christianity a bad name. i don't understand how there can be people out there who say that matthew shepherd's death was a good thing for society and still believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. it makes absolutely no sense to me.

is there a religion thread where we can move this conversation to?
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« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2003, 01:57:13 AM »
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all the major religions try to make people believe in goodness and practice good morals. it's the fundamentalists who want to adhere to all the "rules" that give christianity a bad name.


But haven't they changed Christianity so much that it's unrecognizable as an essential religion? It's funny how people don't realize that Christianity originally was not a fundementalist religion, and that dogma was imposed by political entities.

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i don't understand how there can be people out there who say that matthew shepherd's death was a good thing for society and still believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ. it makes absolutely no sense to me.


The popular conception of Jesus is so bizarre and perverted that I don't think anyone can know anymore who the real Jesus was. I have a hard time internalizing a vengeful, pissed off Jesus, as he was painted in these images:


John Martin's The Last Judgment - Jesus' head in the dark cloud


Michelangelo's The Last Judgment (detail)
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« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2003, 05:06:49 PM »
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given that we know nothing for definite, i dont base my life on anything like that


yeah, but isn't that what "faith" is?

just because you don't know something for sure doesn't mean it can't be.


i know, but I find more paranoia in the thought of believing in a God that MAY or MAY NOT exist than actual comfort.  This is just me, though.  I believe in, basically, what I see around me.  I'm not one to say God does not exist cuz how the fuck do I know?  I don't.  I'd like to believe he does.  I think faith is a wonderful thing.  I am just a little too neurotic to have it, I think.  Religion on the other hand, has it's good points, and then it's VERY BAD points...
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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2003, 06:06:47 PM »
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I believe in, basically, what I see around me.


Then you are severely limited. Use your imagination.
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« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2003, 06:45:21 PM »
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Allright, I don't think you really see my point...
"Do you laugh at jealousy?"

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« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2003, 10:53:12 PM »
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Allright, I don't think you really see my point...


If you want to be a good agnostic, a good agnostic should believe that anything is possible, and should not believe that they have seen everything.
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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2003, 11:06:47 PM »
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I might have worded it wrong.  what i mean is that...what i don't know, i won't dismiss, but i won't put any sort of belief system on it, like i won't base my life on anything that i dont know for sure to be true.  actually, I CAN'T do it is more of what I should say.  I could say I believe in God but I couldn't say it 100 percent truthfully.  I talk to God sometimes but I don't fully believe He is there.  It's all very fucked up and I am still very young and have alot to figure out, but that is where I am at right now.
"Do you laugh at jealousy?"

"No, I don't even laugh at seasickness! I happen to regard jealousy as the seasickness of passion."

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« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2004, 01:22:55 AM »
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Bigideas, what is the book you got for Christmas called?
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« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2004, 02:42:43 AM »
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How Movies Helped Save my Soul
by Gareth Higgins

i still haven't really looked at it, here are some he does reviews on:
the royal tenenbaums
fight club
eyes wide shut
the last temptation of christ
paris, texas
the conversation
once upon a time in america
the straight story
blade runner
ratcatcher
the films of the coens
the matrix
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« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2004, 04:45:47 PM »
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Awesome, thanks.
It is said that evil men have no songs. Why is it, then, that the Russians sing songs?

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