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« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2003, 09:44:49 PM »
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I personally don't see the humour in it.

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« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2003, 09:49:54 PM »
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I personally don't see the humour in it.


Yeah, it's not funny, it sort of disturbs me, but Walrus obviously hasn't seen the movie so he doesn't know the context it's in.
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« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2003, 09:52:41 PM »
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I saw the film back when it was released and I've always thought it was haunting dialogue.

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« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2003, 09:54:23 PM »
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Nope.  Haven't seen it.  Should I?
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« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2003, 09:55:26 PM »
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Yes. It's a great, great movie.

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« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2003, 05:54:00 AM »
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it occurs very close to the turning point of mark's character, when we sympathize with the other dude.

it's an important line in getting us to see a very true perception from the other side of american culture, then shoving the oil down his throat seals the deal.
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« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2003, 12:57:27 PM »
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Michael Jackson is to pop music what Steven Spielberg is to film.

Therefore, long before he became so odd and criminal and freakish, I despised him and what he stands for.

I've never heard anything human, any personality, in his music; therefore, unlike, say, Kraftwerk, who meticulously constructed an inhuman sound and tone as its own kind of pathos, Michael Jackson completely fails on his own terms. Every time I see Clay fucking Aiken, I think, "There. That's the sum of what Michael Jackson has contributed to music. That horrible, empty, glee-club 'Gee, folks! I'm an entertainer! Let's dance 'n sing 'n put on a show!' ideology." A real live Mickey Mouse doll for the world to embrace.

Actually, now that his Kingship has been irrevocably taken away, I find him more intriguing than ever before, if only because he's taking that harmless, sexless, pointless image of his- the one this ever-more-conformist world of ours seemed to crave- and shoving it back down the throat of the machine that made him.
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« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2003, 01:04:48 PM »
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That horrible, empty, glee-club 'Gee, folks! I'm an entertainer! Let's dance 'n sing 'n put on a show!' ideology." A real live Mickey Mouse doll for the world to embrace.


If we didn't have that kind of stuff though, the world would be a pretty sad place... I for one believe that crappy "dance 'n sing" entertainment has its place in the world... its not about being artsy fartsy all of the time... sometimes i love the mindless joyfulness of upbeat crappy pop music...

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« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2003, 01:16:32 PM »
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do you think billie jean was a guy or a girl?

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« Reply #54 on: December 02, 2003, 01:17:50 PM »
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do you think billie jean was a guy or a girl?


Hahaha!  I think that was an intentionally ambiguous name... but he says it in the song "she's just a girl..."

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« Reply #55 on: December 02, 2003, 01:23:05 PM »
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I for one believe that crappy "dance 'n sing" entertainment has its place in the world.


Oh, so do I. I just think that that place should hardly be at the top of the heap and deserving of the utmost adulation and devotion, with the ringleader crowned the "king" of things. That's what I resist with every cell in my brain and bone in my body.
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« Reply #56 on: December 07, 2003, 07:45:18 PM »
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Age progressed Michael Jackson if he never altered himself.

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« Reply #57 on: December 07, 2003, 09:23:07 PM »
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so so so sad

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« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2003, 02:55:50 PM »
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I know this is 'yesterday' but it's still funny.

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« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2003, 07:49:04 PM »
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i think that's kinda fucked up.

 

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