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« on: October 23, 2003, 11:20:51 AM »
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I see new items started for The Beatles and The Who (what, no Stones?), so I thought I'd start one for the band of the same milieu that I think were at the very least equally important, if not more so, than those other, more popular bands.

These three albums alone:








...come to my mind as "classics" of the era before anything by those other groups.

My favorite Kinks songs are: "Two Sisters," "Shangri-La," "Lola," "People Take Pictures of Each Other," and so many more.

Anyone else here find the Kinks sorely in need of the sort of appreciation that's always carelessly lavished upon Beatles/Stones/Who?
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2003, 11:27:22 AM »
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Nothing In This World....   from Rushmore, is a class song!
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2003, 03:46:35 PM »
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Oh I love the Kinks. Is it fair to say they're underrated as a band or that Stones/Beatles/Who are just overrated?

I was going to start this thread along with one dedicated to Cream (I thought there already was a Stones thread, but I guess not).. It's their most popular but nonetheless, Lola is my favourite.

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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2003, 03:57:42 PM »
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L-o-l-a Lola is definetly their best.

And they really deserve more apprechiation

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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2003, 10:26:07 AM »
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"Victoria" from Arthur is such a sweet song. I crank it every May 24.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2003, 10:59:40 AM »
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Quote from: anakin_e
"Victoria" from Arthur is such a sweet song. I crank it every May 24.


I'm pretty sure the song isn't quite meant to be a celebration... but maybe you don't quite mean to celebrate...  :)
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2003, 12:41:53 PM »
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Just have to chime in and say that Lola's my favorite, too.

Didn't Third Eye Blind play them in some show recently? I heard they did a pretty crappy job.

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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2003, 01:45:16 PM »
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I like The Kinks better then both Who and Stones, hell I even like them more then Beatles.

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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2003, 06:38:20 PM »
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I like The Kinks better then both Who and Stones, hell I even like them more then Beatles.
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""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2003, 03:29:24 PM »
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[3 great Kinks albums] to my mind as "classics" of the era before anything by those other groups.

Anyone else here find the Kinks sorely in need of the sort of appreciation that's always carelessly lavished upon Beatles/Stones/Who?


The Kinks were an incredibly good pop rock band, but I don't think any one album of theirs was as good as, say, Help! or Rubber Soul....and I think there are a handful of Beatles albums better than even those!

Then again, I'm not a Kinks expert.  I know Something Else and TKATVGPS pretty well, but beyond that, my appreciation is spotty.  To my mind, they're far better than the American critical and popular opinion would indicate and they're influential as hell, but nowhere near Beatle calibre.

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Didn't Third Eye Blind play them in some show recently? I heard they did a pretty crappy job.


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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2003, 03:58:49 PM »
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anakin_e wrote:
"Victoria" from Arthur is such a sweet song. I crank it every May 24.

godardian wrote:
I'm pretty sure the song isn't quite meant to be a celebration... but maybe you don't quite mean to celebrate...

(sorry i'm no good at the HTML, and couldn't get the fancy boxes to work)

I don't know, i think the song was a bit of nostalgia for old grand Brittania (vs. the slums of the 1960s working class in britain), and May 24 strikes me as a day of nostalgia for being a part of the grand old empire, that's just my take on it, great tune regardless.


Back to the topic at hand, can anybody recommend a good compilation album, even though i know compilations are a bit sacreligous, i'm not a big enough kinks fan to go out and buy a few albums.  Amazon's got a "Ultimate Collection" double cd, and it's got most of my favs, but it is suspiciously missing "Louie, Louie", am i missing something? am i mistaken that the kinks are the ones behind this tune? does is go under a different title? basically i'm looking for an album with:
Victoria
All Day and All of the Night
Louie Louie
You Really Got Me
I Need You
on it, as they're my favs (never really a Lola fan), and i'm looking to get into more kinks stuff. I'm a huge Who fan 'cause of a compilation i got a few years back, and i'm hoping the same kinda thing will come from listening to more Kinks stuff.

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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2003, 04:31:55 PM »
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"Louie, Louie" was The Kingsmen, from my hometown of Portland, OR.

I have a 2-disc CD, Kinks Kronikles, that's a decent best-of. That may be identical to the 2-disc comp you're talking about.
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"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2003, 08:38:02 PM »
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Thanks a bunch godardian.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2004, 01:18:22 PM »
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From the AP:

Jan. 5, 2004  |  NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Singer-songwriter Ray Davies of the Kinks was shot in the leg while chasing thieves who snatched a purse from a woman he was with, police said Monday. He was not seriously injured.

Police said Davies, 59, and the woman were walking along the Quarter's Burgundy Street around 8:30 p.m. Sunday when the theft and shooting happened.

Davies was treated and released at a hospital, Capt. Marlon Defillo, a police spokesman, said. One suspect was captured within hours of the shooting and another was being sought.

The Kinks, part of the 1960s British invasion, had a string of hits including "You Really Got Me," "Sunny Afternoon," "All Day and All of the Night" and "Lola." Davies founded the band, known for its hard-edged, guitar-driven sound and witty lyrics, with his brother Dave.
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2004, 06:14:15 PM »
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Kinks' Ray Davies honored by queen

LONDON -- Singer-songwriter Ray Davies of The Kinks, shot in the leg by a mugger two months ago, said he hopes to be "jumping around on stage" soon. Davies, 59, leaned on a walking stick Wednesday as he appeared at Buckingham Palace to accept an honor from Queen Elizabeth II. "I will get better and I'll be back jumping around on stage," said Davies. But, he added, "There is a lot of doubt whether I can perform in the near future." (AP)
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