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« Reply #135 on: January 19, 2005, 04:17:22 PM »
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yeah, that's true.  I guess I kind of hold them in different categories since Fincher doesn't write.  Now what if Fincher wrote or if pta sent a script to someone else?  What if we didn't argue over who's better in the upper echilons of art film and instead criticized crap like Garden state instead?
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« Reply #136 on: January 19, 2005, 04:24:12 PM »
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What if we didn't argue over who's better in the upper echilons of art film and instead criticized crap like Garden state instead?

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« Reply #137 on: January 19, 2005, 05:26:02 PM »
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David Fincher might be a great director, but until he can manage to come up with a great film that he's written and directed, he will never ever be in the same category as Paul Thomas Anderson.


True...  Fincher will have to settle for being in the same category as Stanley Kubrick.  

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« Reply #138 on: January 19, 2005, 05:29:35 PM »
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Paul Thomas Anderson..

Hard Eight: Written and directed by PTA.
Boogie Nights: Written and directed by PTA.
Magnolia: Written and directed by PTA.
Punch Drunk Love: Written and directed by PTA.

David Fincher

Alien 3: Directed by DF (Somebody else wrote it)
Seven: Directed by DF (Somebody else wrote it)
The Game: Directed by DF (Somebody else wrote it)
Fight Club: Directed by DF (Somebody else wrote it)
Panic Room: Directed by DF (Somebody else wrote it)


I have great respect for the work of both Fincher and PTA, but for totally different reasons.

While Fincher is pretty much a technical demigod when it comes to filmmaking, many of his movies are commercial "movie" movies (Alien, The Game, Panic Room). If they do have some personal perspective (Se7en, Fight Club) it's that of the writer first... which gets Fincher's attention and then he directs the shit out of it.

What I appreciate in PTA's films is the personal perspective he puts into his screenplays and movies, intentionally or not. It gives his work a soul, and a unique voice that is lacking in a lot of things these days. I'd really like to see what he could do with a script that he hasn't written himself.

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« Reply #139 on: January 19, 2005, 05:44:08 PM »
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yeah, i've always thought david fincher was a bit of a hack.  no enjoyment from any of his movies except for a little bit from se7en and the game.

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« Reply #140 on: January 19, 2005, 09:07:26 PM »
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There's a reason the Fincher forum was replaced.  All I'm saying.

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« Reply #141 on: January 19, 2005, 09:07:49 PM »
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That's the difference between PTA and DF.

Anderson is a filmaker.
Fincher is a director.

I see a distinct difference between a guy who takes a screenplay and sets his mind in motion to put it on the screen. Some guys do it well (I personally think Fincher is excellent), but it really doesn't make that person much of a storyteller. If you look at the great filmakers, they all wrote and directed at least a few films over their lifetime. I think Fincher could write a good story, but he certainly hasn't chosen to so far.

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« Reply #142 on: January 19, 2005, 09:47:16 PM »
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fincher is one of the best directors working today - better than 90% out there
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« Reply #143 on: January 19, 2005, 09:56:43 PM »
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But he's still just a director.

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« Reply #144 on: January 19, 2005, 09:58:02 PM »
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But he's still just a director.


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« Reply #145 on: January 19, 2005, 10:10:00 PM »
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How old are you?

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« Reply #146 on: January 19, 2005, 10:15:27 PM »
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« Reply #147 on: January 19, 2005, 10:16:28 PM »
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« Reply #148 on: January 19, 2005, 10:22:36 PM »
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« Reply #149 on: January 19, 2005, 10:29:08 PM »
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