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« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2003, 04:37:31 PM »
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I wonder what Brett Ratner would do in a situation like this...?



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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2003, 09:36:04 PM »
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I'd like to see a successful director so comfortable with his accomplishments that some day he'd be able to laugh at his early work (if it is laughable) and release it for the public to enjoy.


M. Night Shyamalan.  I'd like to see Robert Rodriguez's early works, besides Bedhead.

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« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2003, 09:55:08 PM »
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I'd like to see a successful director so comfortable with his accomplishments that some day he'd be able to laugh at his early work (if it is laughable) and release it for the public to enjoy.


Brett Ratner has included his shorts on the Red Dragon and Rush Hour 1 & 2 DVDs.
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« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2003, 08:29:22 AM »
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Or about Spike Lee until you've seen Joe's Bed-Stuy Barbershop: We Cut Heads (though I realize he's used this movie as inspiration for later works).


Have you seen this?  I've always wanted to see it and figured it wasn't available.  I got a few PTA shorts off Ebay and the quality sucked so I haven't bothered pursuing any others.

Nope, sadly.  I figure it's one of those holy grail type films a director doesn't want you to see.  Though this one, like Scorsese's work at NYU, is supposed to be very good.  I'd like to see a successful director so comfortable with his accomplishments that some day he'd be able to laugh at his early work (if it is laughable) and release it for the public to enjoy.  That'd be nice with PTA, too, though I know some people here have seen his early stuff (namely The Dirk Diggler Story) and said it wasn't too great.


I saw The Dirk Diggler Story and it isn't great, but considering he made when he was 17 (I believe) it's pretty good, if you look at it that way.  I also saw Cigarettes and Coffe and that is good.  I saw the 2 back to back and you can see how much he learned and grew in the years in between.  I agree with you, it'd be real nice to see some of the filmmakers early work, good, or bad.  Joe's Bed-Stuy is definitely at the top of my list.

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« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2003, 08:54:13 AM »
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The guys who do not wish to share their earlier work are often young and maybe a little bit insecure...

I'm not saying PTA and Ratner are insecure but they may inhabit some insecurities...

This could be complete bull...but it's a theory anyway.

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« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2003, 01:22:06 PM »
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Robert Altman's "Short Cuts" is not a very good film.


.. :shock: .What are you taling about?!!!!!!!  Thats ridiculous to say that..Maybe you have not even seen it b/c it you have and you have decent tastes in film you would not have said this...Short Cuts is genius..

and he's no wells...thats comparing apples and oranges.. its  like comparing lynch to spike lee..You don't they are both great and have their own style..

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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2003, 03:41:58 PM »
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I would love to know what is so GREAT about "Short Cuts". I mean, the ending completly leaves you wanting more and the story just goes on at a tedious pace. I don't think it's a really bad film, just not a great one. I thought the performances were excellent and Altman did give many fresh ideas, but I didn't feel that all of them worked. Overall, a decent film.
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« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2003, 07:09:38 PM »
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I would love to know what is so GREAT about "Short Cuts".

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« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2003, 08:47:45 PM »
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Brett Ratner is to PTA what Ed Wood is to Orson Welles

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« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2003, 09:33:31 PM »
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Brett Ratner is to PTA what Ed Wood is to Orson Welles


ed wood was a genius who never recieved the funds his visions deserved.  


that might just be a nice thought, but i hope its true.
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« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2003, 12:19:29 PM »
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I enjoy ed wood.

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« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2003, 01:00:58 PM »
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Brett Ratner is to PTA what Ed Wood is to Orson Welles


Probably some day, when Ratner once more has problems with making his films, he'll go into a bar, meet his big idol PTA and aks him for advise.  :-D
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« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2003, 12:01:29 AM »
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Brett Ratner has included his shorts on the Red Dragon and Rush Hour 1 & 2 DVDs.



His short films or, literally, his "shorts," as in the clothing he wears under his expensive pants?  :wink:

 

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