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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2003, 09:34:26 PM »
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>Truth hurts, doesn't it?<

Not really. However, the thread probably would've died if nobody had written anything. I certainly wouldn't have written a third shunned post.

But thanks to you being a dick it seems to have continued a little longer. Thanks buddy!
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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2003, 09:58:24 PM »
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MacGuffin is the MacGuffin that keeps this thread going.
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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2003, 10:38:56 PM »
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That was completely incoherent.
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2003, 12:54:32 AM »
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u are completely impotent.
endless 'nothing is what it seems'-isms

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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2003, 02:32:04 PM »
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Somebody just edited this thread for no real reason as I can see.
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2003, 09:24:49 PM »
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Do you know what a MacGuffin is, motherfucker?
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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2003, 11:12:44 PM »
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I wipe my ass with Hitchcock, bitch.
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2003, 08:03:41 AM »
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I'm tired of arguing with you cocks about this, shut the fuck up
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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2003, 09:47:53 AM »
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Somebody put a lock on this.
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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2003, 09:53:56 AM »
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Why so? I think it's an interesting thread. I also think you guys just fight a lot for no reason on this boards. Personally, I think the Coens influenced not only other directors in style but also by turning independent films to another level, that can not only have a lot of quality but can, in fact, be seen by masses. As for influences on other filmmakers.... wasn't Wes Anderson who sayd the Coens are the best?
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« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2003, 11:14:32 AM »
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THANK YOU! Thank you. Finally...

Yeah, Wes Anderson seems influenced by the Coens, A Clockwork Orange, Woody Allen and Polanski.
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« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2003, 11:16:57 AM »
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and Barry Lyndon, and all things Bunuel....
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2003, 11:32:07 AM »
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Yeah, and a lot by Truffaut too. But this is not the Wes Anderson influences thread is it?  :wink:

Also, I was thinking about something... I think there may be some new filmmakers who take a lot from the Coens and, well, as longs as they take the best from them and turn those into good movies, it's OK by me (as I wrote a short screenplay a while ago to which I took a lot from Woody Allen's work, but hey, he did the same to Bergman and his movies are still great :P ). But I don't think you can't tell that the Coen Brothers really take that lot from other filmmakers, at leat directly. With the exception of "The Man Who Wasn't There" and "Miller's Crossing" I really think the Coens are real originals. What do you think?
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« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2003, 11:36:56 AM »
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I don't know about ripping them off, but PTA seems to really respect their amazing command of dialogue, and how they build those amazing beats of characters playing off one another. He talks about it with Julianne Moore in one of the BN commentaries.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

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« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2003, 11:43:57 AM »
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He talks about it with Julianne Moore in one of the BN commentaries.


Damn, I don't remember that being mentioned in the commentary... I'll just have to listen to the damn thing again  :wink:  aahhhh.... if our life problems were all like this it would be great.

Anyway, I don't see Paul ripping the Coens. But Paul is one of those guys who could ripp anyone because he knows how to do so. I mean, there are certain shots in Boogie Nights and Magnolia that reminded me (especially) Casino, but he used them the right way in both films. Paul is one of those who uses influences the right way I think.
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