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« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2004, 10:47:02 AM »
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I liked that movie a lot. I even found it somewhat (I repeat, somewhat) Lynchian sometimes, with the midget, the nudity and the twisted plot. I like Ozon a lot, he's a fresh breath in french cinema. But you say you "play catch up" with a few indie films, I don't think being foreign equals being indie. This movie is backed by Canal+ and France 2,  and I think it's a pretty big french production. I could be wrong, I don't know the definition of "indie film" but I don't think this is one. Correct me if you please.

And seriously, Ludivine Sagnier is a bomb.

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« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2004, 11:05:40 AM »
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i guess i mean 'arthouse', not 'indie' since thats where this film played in my neck of the woods.  and as far as the nudity not being attractive, i know that doesnt have any bearing on the plot, its just that in a lot of the other reviews on here i read, they were addressing the nudity as in 'i hated the movie, but the nudity made it worthwhile'.  i was simply trying to say 'i hated the movie, and the nudity didnt make it any more worthwhile'.
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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2004, 03:14:56 PM »
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I'm getting the DVD, but I hate that it won't have the Region 2 stuff... I just know that if/when it gets nominated for an award, it'll get a "awards edition" or something like that...

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« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2004, 08:25:59 PM »
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Saw this film over the summer and enjoyed it very much... definitely Lynchian, definitely a fun little mystery, definitely lots of Ludivine Sagnier undressed...
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« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2004, 10:44:03 AM »
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Reaction to Swimming Pool, categorized by age group:

6-11:  "Mommy, what are those things on that lady?  This is boring, mommy.  Read me a story... the one about the 3 bears."

12-15:  "Wow, did you see the bush on that chick?  I wish they'd add scenes like that to American Pie or Texas Chainsaw Massacre and not waste it on this boring shit!  What's up with showing that nasty old chick naked?  Yuck!"

16-19:  "The story was kinda slow, but you gotta love the titties in this movie!  They should have made more cuts like in that new Nelly video, and maybe had some more titties too!"

20-22:  "The style was definetly in the Hitchcock/Lynch spirit, especially the scenes of nudity.  I learned that in my film class, ya know.  This is definetly the movie i'd love to watch with my friends while drunk/high."

23-27:  "This is definetly Ozon's best work.  Sure, it reminds me of 8 Women a bit, but this has something more to it that puts it above the rest.  My friend and his wife came with my girlfriend and I to see it, and although the girls kept talking about the flaws in Julie's body, my friend and I couldn't help but notice the subtle relationship between the her and the old lady."

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« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2004, 03:04:16 PM »
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I liked it a lot myself. It's a very sexy, intriguing movie with an Alfred Hitchcock twist to it. It's worth seeing more than once.

One question: what's the difference between the R rated and unrated versions?
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« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2004, 03:09:10 PM »
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« Reply #52 on: January 15, 2004, 03:58:12 PM »
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I liked it a lot myself. It's a very sexy, intriguing movie with an Alfred Hitchcock twist to it. It's worth seeing more than once.

One question: what's the difference between the R rated and unrated versions?


Yes, probably something like what SNT said- it's usually a few seconds or less of barely noticeable difference a la Dressed to Kill or American Psycho (with Eyes Wide Shut being a more extreme case, and we never even GOT an unrated version of that in N.A.!!).
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« Reply #53 on: January 15, 2004, 04:14:46 PM »
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So there's no word on whether a more fully-packed version will be released in the US?  I don't want to waste my money on a stripped down version when I know there's a better version in the works.

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« Reply #54 on: January 15, 2004, 04:17:51 PM »
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So there's no word on whether a more fully-packed version will be released in the US?  I don't want to waste my money on a stripped down version when I know there's a better version in the works.


I haven't heard any "word," but I seriously doubt that they'll ever bother with a subsequent, additional DVD release of this particular film in the U.S. It was successful, but not nearly that successful.
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« Reply #55 on: January 15, 2004, 04:20:45 PM »
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I haven't heard any "word," but I seriously doubt that they'll ever bother with a subsequent, additional DVD release of this particular film in the U.S. It was successful, but not nearly that successful.


In other words, no one but us film geeks even care that it was even released here... hehe... that's why it's MSRP is higher than most other DVDs to begin with... it's a niche product.  Good point.

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« Reply #56 on: January 15, 2004, 04:23:47 PM »
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I haven't heard any "word," but I seriously doubt that they'll ever bother with a subsequent, additional DVD release of this particular film in the U.S. It was successful, but not nearly that successful.


Right.  There's no way they are going to re-release this one, unless it gets picked up by another distributor.  Even if that happened it would be a long shot.  If hell froze over, then I might say maybe...MAYBE.

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« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2004, 12:15:04 AM »
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God, this movie was terrible. Skinemax/Showtime quality at the most. I can't believe people are actually trashing the names of Lynch and Hitchcock by saying the ending or twist resembles one of their own. The dialogue was horrible (that line about assholes is so old), but that ending, wow. So unnecessary, so fucking uninspired.
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« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2004, 10:57:03 AM »
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Are you guys seeing a dubbed version ? Hope not...

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« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2004, 11:30:04 AM »
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16-19:  "The story was kinda slow, but you gotta love the titties in this movie!  They should have made more cuts like in that new Nelly video, and maybe had some more titties too!"

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