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« on: May 23, 2003, 02:55:16 PM »
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Anybody else seen this? It's a pretty amusing little documentary, which kinda preceded all these live dating shows. I wonder if it's on dvd...
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2003, 02:59:08 PM »
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I don't even think it was a true doc; everything felt staged.

Any film with Stacy Sanches, however...
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2003, 03:04:06 PM »
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Anybody else seen this? It's a pretty amusing little documentary, which kinda preceded all these live dating shows. I wonder if it's on dvd...


I think I've seen it on IFC.... or maybe HBO?? IFC seems more likely.
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2003, 03:04:13 PM »
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Yeah, at least half of it was, I figure. But still. It was funny.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2003, 03:07:45 PM »
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It was funny.


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I found him more annoying.
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