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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #225 on: November 02, 2003, 11:22:05 PM »
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the rock is good, but what about the blob?  it was like a bad rebel without a cause wannabe with jello.


Oh, hell no! Tell me you did not just dump on "The Blob". That's a 50's sci-fi classic. One of the best drive-in movies.
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« Reply #226 on: November 03, 2003, 09:20:27 AM »
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From a post at criterion board:

I heard about this a few weeks ago from a friend of mine, but didn't want to post anything until I had the info from more than one source. Well, now I do. Producer Richard Gordon, whose film FIEND WITHOUT A FACE is already part of the Criterion Collection, told me this weekend that the upcoming Special Editions of the films CORRIDORS OF BLOOD, THE HAUNTED STRANGLER, FIRST MAN INTO SPACE and THE ATOMIC SUBMARINE will also be released as part of the Criterion Collection, sometime in 2004.

Since it's a little hard to imagine THE ATOMIC SUBMARINE (Criterion Special Edition), I asked him if maybe some of these titles will be coming out through HVE but not under the CC banner. He insists all will be Criterion releases. Perhaps this isn't so amazing, since the CC also includes CARNIVAL OF SOULS, THE BLOB, the "Andy Warhol" horror films and will soon include EQUINOX, as well.

In any case, this is extremely cool, at least imho. All the supplemental materials -- audio commentaries, interviews, etc. -- for these discs is complete (two friends of mine helped compile these materials) but I'm not sure if the transfers are finished yet or not (I forgot to ask).

Anyhow, there it is. Believe it or not.

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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #227 on: November 03, 2003, 01:46:52 PM »
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the rock is good, but what about the blob?  it was like a bad rebel without a cause wannabe with jello.


Oh, hell no! Tell me you did not just dump on "The Blob". That's a 50's sci-fi classic. One of the best drive-in movies.


The best explanation of Criterion's seemingly inconsistent, um, criteria for what they release is that each film they decide to give the Criterion treatment to is placed within its context of cinematic/social/cultural history and is offered by them as something indicative/exemplary of its era/genre. The fact that they cast their net so wide and offend everyone means that their body of knowledge and understanding of film history is, indeed, expansive and to be trusted.
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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #228 on: November 03, 2003, 02:23:23 PM »
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I dunno about you guys, but I'm happy when Criterion releases a movie I hate, because it means my wallet gets a little break that month...
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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #229 on: November 03, 2003, 04:54:26 PM »
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I dunno about you guys, but I'm happy when Criterion releases a movie I hate, because it means my wallet gets a little break that month...

That's exactly what I was thinking. With all this amazing DVD news, I need a downtime with releases I won't have to worry about getting. :wink:

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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #230 on: November 03, 2003, 08:12:52 PM »
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I'm definitely one who believes Criterion is inconsistent in the releases of quality films. Sure, some are given reasons of influence and importance under certain terms, but they are still shit films. And I include many art films under this classification.

this is also a good thing, because yes, my wallet desperately needs a break.

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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #231 on: November 03, 2003, 10:14:37 PM »
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Is Godzilla going to hit Criterion? If the idea of anything that touches Rialto pictures goes Criterion means anything, here's the heads up of a future release sometime down the line (and yes, the 1954 version):

www.rialtopictures.com/godzilla.html

Also, word has it that at the end of NYC Ozu retrospective at Lincoln Center, Richard Pena (who heads up the Film Society) thanked its sponsors, which included Criterion and spoke of how Criterion planned to release 12 Ozu dvds. Only Tokyo Story, Early Summer and Floating Weeds are confirmed from the retrospective, so quite the number and considering it is so large, smell a box set or two set up to break up that large number of future releases. Speculation to which ones, please.

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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #232 on: November 03, 2003, 10:42:19 PM »
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mac i just could not get into the blob.  i dont know, not enought blob for me, too much 50's teen angst.  maybe there just wasnt enough horror (or cheese) for me, since it was one of the 50 horror/sci fi flicks i watched during last month.  

fuck, godzilla?  what about KING KONG!?!  that needs a goddamn region 1 release period. it could use a boss transfer so criterion oughta get them rights from RKO.  that'd be the king fucking dvd right there.  does anyone know why it hasnt been released on dvd yet?  you'd think it being harry knowles like favorite movie ever would speed things up?  theres money to be made.
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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #233 on: November 03, 2003, 10:47:05 PM »
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KING KONG - Special edition dvd from Warners in 2004. Likely then. The criterion fans cried, though. They cried for Criterion to release it. Just not happening.

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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #234 on: November 04, 2003, 12:19:31 AM »
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Criterion planned to release 12 Ozu dvds.

12!?  Where's GDIDM?  I'm about to cream my pants.

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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #235 on: November 04, 2003, 12:24:29 PM »
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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #236 on: November 04, 2003, 04:11:08 PM »
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KING KONG - Special edition dvd from Warners in 2004. Likely then. The criterion fans cried, though. They cried for Criterion to release it. Just not happening.


warner's releases awesome discs, though. look at matrixes, citizen kane, singin in the rain. and their transfers are always top notch. so, nobody should be complaining.
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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #237 on: November 04, 2003, 05:11:38 PM »
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if kane, rain, and the recent three: treasure, robin hood, yankee are any indication, then I CANT WAIT> :shock:
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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #238 on: November 04, 2003, 06:01:37 PM »
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Earlier, I posted about producer Richard Gordon and the major rumor that he was going to get 4 of his films released by Criterion all in this year. This was met with boos from the criterion forum and shock Criterion would devote time to old camp horror films. Well, a controversy has come about in which good and bad news comes for the people hoping to see these cult horror films released. First, the good news:

(From a post at the board)
Here are some more details on these DVDs, from Tom Weaver, which were posted on a classic horror message board. Tom's a friend of mine, so I hope I didn't get him any hot water. (If so, sorry, Tom!):

"The four releases, which'll dribble out throughout next year, are Richard Gordon's FIRST MAN INTO SPACE, THE HAUNTED STRANGLER and CORRIDORS OF BLOOD and Alex Gordon's THE ATOMIC SUBMARINE.

I interviewed Alex (not long before he passed away) for the commentary track of ATOMIC SUBMARINE and, in Memphis(!), I had star Brett Halsey sit down in front of a camera and talk about ATOMIC and some of his other sci-fi/horror credits.

Richard and I are on the commentary of FIRST MAN INTO SPACE. Alex worked on that movie too (very briefly) so I did a 10-minute interview with him for that DVD. Also, in England, I had leading lady Marla Landi sit down in front of a camera and talk a little about it.

Richard and I are on the commentary of HAUNTED STRANGLER. In England, I got co-stars Vera Day and Jean Kent to talk about it (and other career highlights) on-camera, and in Scotland I got the screenwriter Jan Read to talk about it (and other career highlights) on-camera.

Richard and I are on the commentary of CORRIDORS OF BLOOD. I also had Alex talk about Karloff for 15 or 20 minutes for this DVD. I did a commentary (about 40, 45 minutes) with actress Yvonne Romain. In England, I had co-star Francis Matthews sit down in front of a camera and talk about it (and his other horror/SF credits). I also did a print interview with co-star Betta St. John that I'll use quotes from in my liner notes.

I also arranged for my friend Bryan Senn to visit director Robert Day and have HIM talk on-camera about the three he directed (FIRST MAN, HAUNTED, CORRIDORS).

And, who knows, maybe we'll come up with some more bonus materials and interviewees in the time we've got left."

BTW, Bryan Senn is also a friend of mine and I have a VHS dupe of the interviews he conducted with Robert Day. He has nice things to say about Karloff and, um, not-as-nice things to say about Christopher Lee.
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Then the bad news:

Criterion's reply to this rumor: (courtesy of Spokesman, Jon Mulvaney)

I'm am aware of no such project. Sorry I can't be of greater assistance.

Best,
JM
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And finally, with the news Criterion would be handling 12 Ozu films in all, comes the further news on the timeline to which Criterion will dish them out: Not all at once, but expect 2 or 3 a year. This comes also from Jon Mulvaney. Kinda dissapointing, but expected news also.

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Re: Criterion News and Discussion
« Reply #239 on: November 04, 2003, 09:49:35 PM »
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okay, so, what's the deal with Ozu? I saw Good Morning and thought it was fine, but nothing to rave about and sorely lacking in style (which is cool, but doesn't have much re-watch value for me). I'd love to blind buy either Tokyo Story or Floating Weeds, but of course they are hella expensive. Now I could rent them from the library, but because of their age, the quality will be poo. Anyone wanna wax about why I should watch more Ozu, and why CC seems to love him so much?
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When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

 

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