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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #615 on: February 17, 2010, 03:43:30 AM »
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actually GT you bring up a really good point, and that scene is one that i forgot entirely while writing my previous post. i will need to rethink this. off the top of my head maybe he saw what she was doing as an attack on how well he does his job... and by letting her get away she outsmarted him or outplayed him (even if only in his head).  like all the lies she told him in the previous scene about the mountain climbing enraged him, feeling insulted she would try to put that past him. and truthfully, he gains nothing by letting her live considering he's been concocting his own agenda, she's just a liability that would be a loose random factor. but that's a weak assumption I'll give you that, just popped in my head.

on a side note, the mountain climbing lie is fucking awesome. this is another moment tarantino got the tone perfectly, it's a horrible lie a-la cheesy WW2/James bond style films. it's like if you picture a German wearing leeterhozen (spelling) from an Alfred hitchcock movie they'd be mountain climbing. i miss movies that the stars did these kind of outlandishly adventurous activities. tarantino plays with it the same way he plays with the english speaking in the first scene. the viewer first thinks ha ha mountain climbing, but quickly believes that this kind of a lie is passable in this fictional world. but then later when landa laughs hysterically at it, the film (and that character) address how idiotic it is.  i really like that play on genre and expectation.

and that wasn't a one liner. i appreciate P is trying to passionately draw his line in the sand on the film, but there was no wit in it. he meant it in as far as you can take it with a grain of salt that worst shouldn't be taken so literal.
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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #616 on: February 17, 2010, 04:12:00 AM »
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actually GT you bring up a really good point, and that scene is one that i forgot entirely while writing my previous post. i will need to rethink this. off the top of my head maybe he saw what she was doing as an attack on how well he does his job... and by letting her get away she outsmarted him or outplayed him (even if only in his head).  like all the lies she told him in the previous scene about the mountain climbing enraged him, feeling insulted she would try to put that past him. and truthfully, he gains nothing by letting her live considering he's been concocting his own agenda, she's just a liability that would be a loose random factor. but that's a weak assumption I'll give you that, just popped in my head.

I'll add more detail to try to convince you about my point. By killing her, all he stands to do is cast doubt on himself in the allies' eyes. He wants them to believe he intended to help them as soon as he got wind of Operation Kino, but he kills their double agent for no good reason. If Allied forces did a basic investigation of her death they would know that and put blame on him which could compromise the benefits he wants as a new American citizen. No, he compromises his new allegiances by killing her so the reason has to lie on a personality deficiency within him that goes against his full professional character. It has to rest on his prejudices in some manner.

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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #617 on: February 17, 2010, 10:03:42 PM »
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the thing about P's one-liners is that you can like, hear the timing just by reading it.  that was a good one.  derek don't argue transformers 2, that point is not worth arguing.  just enjoy the one-liner because it was a good one.


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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #619 on: March 02, 2010, 04:05:59 PM »
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not to mention a long-forgotten 1939 B movie that actually kills off Hitler that Tarantino discovered in an old videotape rack at Safeway.
 


Did I miss it or did they not give the title of this film in the article?
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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #620 on: April 08, 2011, 06:32:19 PM »
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I recently tagged up with a friend of mine and we both posted companion pieces on Inglourious Basterds. He's a Tarantino fan so he wrote a favorable review while I dissented. The moment was fitting because years back we did this same sort of thing for a small magazine. There was a feeling of wanting to return to the old format. Anyways, I mention this because his piece on Iglorious Basterds is the best argument I have ever heard on why it's not only a great film, but really his "masterpiece". His critical interpretation of how Basterds runs congruent with Tarantino's filmmaking identity makes me appreciate the film a lot more. I still dissent because too much of the film is uninspiring and problematic and I'm not sure Tarantino was even intending for some of these critical ideas, but I'm not sure an artist has to be to make them warranted.

Still, a recommended read: http://catecinem.wordpress.com/2011/03/20/inglourious-basterds/

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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #621 on: June 08, 2011, 09:36:24 AM »
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i agree with gt
in this movie whenever there were statements they were usually followed by responses.
there were so many interrogative statements i was like wtf
i also was quite unnerved by the fact that there were characters, a progression of time, a soundtrack, and the pretentious quirk of credits.
a waste of time, hopefully he can make a movie one day that will fulfill everyones expectation of a film that has no elements of anything that can be regarded with any opinion.


haha this was a really good post.

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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #622 on: June 08, 2011, 09:38:04 AM »
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So, in essense, I don't think you understood my review much at all.

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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #623 on: June 08, 2011, 11:37:24 AM »
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2 years hence- shutup GT
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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #624 on: June 08, 2011, 12:02:32 PM »
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What?
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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #625 on: June 08, 2011, 04:13:22 PM »
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2 years hence- shutup GT

Haha, glad I can annoy posters when they were in utero with the board. It was a decent conversation back in the day and if you want to help IB's history (it doesn't seem too kind here now), you should definitely restart it.

Still, I suggest people look up a little in this thread and read my friend's piece on Inglourious Basterds. Not only the best defense I know of for the film, but an excellent work of critical imagination.

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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #626 on: June 08, 2011, 04:33:56 PM »
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JB does the best "What?"s.

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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #627 on: June 08, 2011, 04:38:06 PM »
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is that one of his things? I thought he only did it to me, because I'm horrible at explaining myself. The complete opposite of GT.
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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #628 on: June 08, 2011, 05:06:27 PM »
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No he only did it twice in the past two days, and I guess both were in response to what you said. But I find it funny for some reason.

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Re: Inglourious Basterds [sic]
« Reply #629 on: June 08, 2011, 05:54:39 PM »
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I'm horrible at explaining myself. The complete opposite of GT.

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