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Joker (2019)

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Reply #135 on: October 22, 2019, 12:35:11 PM
This steaming pile of thunderous mediocrity is set to become the highest grossing R-rated film of all time.
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Reply #136 on: October 22, 2019, 12:38:19 PM
This Joker is so mediocre as Joker that I can't imagine a Joker 2. Would Joker open a casino?
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Reply #137 on: October 22, 2019, 02:21:58 PM
Nah, he'd go on a European vacation.
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Reply #138 on: October 22, 2019, 05:04:35 PM
He should just do a prequel about Joker's frat house days, probably be more entertaining.
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Reply #139 on: October 22, 2019, 05:31:24 PM
domestically speaking, becoming the highest grossing r rated movie means passing The Passion of the Christ, which is currently $120mil ahead. #2 is Deadpool. #3 is American Sniper, which was the highest grossing movie of that year in general. #4 is It

it'd be embarrassing if it didn't surpass those movies? it's definitely a shit show. currently Joker is ninth and behind, well yes, The Hangover and The Hangover Pt II


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Reply #140 on: November 19, 2019, 11:32:53 PM
‘Joker’ Was Originally Intended to be Shot in 70mm, But Warner Bros. Passed

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In an interview with Variety, Sher revealed that he and Phillips originally planned to shoot the film in 70mm, emulating the ’70s films that are such a major inspiration on Joker. But Warner Bros. executives “quashed” those plans, Variety reported.

However, Sher and Phillips didn’t give up on their celluloid dreams. According to IndieWire, when Sher and Phillips’ 70mm plans were shot down, they eyed a 35mm shoot — keeping Joker on film, even if they lost the large format scope. “Todd was really adamant about shooting film, convinced we’d just shoot 35mm like we did on his previous films,” Sher told IndieWire last month. “We drove around to three or four different places around [New York City] and captured imagery with no lighting in both [35mm film and Arri Alexa 65 formats]. And when we looked at them side by side, we really loved the large-format aspect of the 65.”

However, these 35mm plans didn’t pan out either, and Sher and Phillips ended up settling on the digital Alexa 65 for their desired look. It ended up being a success for Joker, which recently set box office records as the most profitable comic book movie of all time.

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Reply #141 on: February 05, 2020, 03:12:25 AM
Manic Pixie Dream Incel horseshit. In some parallel universe, there's a version of this movie that turned out good, but it wasn't this one, and it certainly wouldn't have been made by Todd Phillips. As it is, I don't think I've seen a movie with such a misguided sense of its own profundity since... Beasts of the Southern Wild, maybe? And at least that one had its heart in the right place. Joker is the worst kind of cynical bullshit; it's a strip-mall sneaker store selling rebellion for $150 a pair.

If this movie is proof of anything, it's that you will never go broke selling terrible people the message that they're misunderstood victims.
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Reply #142 on: February 05, 2020, 09:47:01 AM
I was not a fan. I thought Joaquin was okay, but not really worth all the plaudits he's been getting. Sorry. I did like Zazie Beetz though, although it's a pretty small part, most likely because I'd just very recently seen her in High Flying Bird before I watched this. You can absolutely tell this is a film by the guy who made The Hangover. That's not a good thing.

All that said, I can absolutely see why the film is winning lots of recognition in the crafts categories. Production Design, etc. were playing their A game. I'd be fine with Joker winning some of those awards, but nothing more, please.
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Reply #143 on: February 21, 2020, 10:56:16 AM
"Look at United State of America right now - what is more important to our culture then the Joker?"



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Reply #144 on: February 21, 2020, 11:28:26 AM
he’s embarrassing to state the obvious

i confess that i myself didn’t immediately like the idea of parasite winning both best foreign and best picture. but actually after it happened i didn’t really care. and this guy did help me further not care


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Reply #145 on: April 23, 2020, 07:30:29 PM
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Reply #146 on: May 09, 2020, 08:15:47 PM
My personal take on this - which to be honest I quite enjoyed both times I've seen it - is that this is a statement of how long it takes films like Taxi Driver or King of Comedy to be fully digested by pop culture and turn up as tasty happy meals or combos that anyone can enjoy and relate to.

My enjoyment from it comes from the fact that I never for a moment felt the film was making a political statement. Or any kind of statement in terms of having a discourse or ideology and pretend to defend it. This is character study, the textbook version. Is it new? Not a chance. Is it edgy? Only next to the Avenger films. Is it profound? Well, I don't think it even tries. The film is too busy inside this poor psychopath's head to do anything else but go along. As a pop piece commenting on current issues, I think it puts things on the table that most people would normally never discuss and certainly never expect to come from a Hollywood comic book film. Namely, how mentally ill people need to be taken care of by their own government in a human way or else risking that same systematic violence to come back in ugly ways. It's not a bad thing to say, not now, not any other time. Compare this with Avengers and there is an abyss of frivolity separating the experiences. Of course it is nothing new because we've all seen Taxi Driver. But it's still weird. And with Joaquin Phoenix doing all sorts of crazy things and bringing a lot of risky touches to it.

I actually love that they let him loose and build up from there. Love the drag queen voice. It's so fucking weird and off putting and it just seems like he's getting lost in the abyss, right in front of the world. It reminded me of Dustin Hoffman in Lenny, with those long takes of the guy onstage, melting down. Mainstream films are so perfect these days. They make too much sense. And here are these guys just risking it. That gives the film a lot of energy, I think.

Still, is the lite version of better films. And so we're still away from REAL edgy movies competing with Robert Downey Jr. and winning. Phoenix's Joker is a full formed anti hero, but he is not Travis Bickle, taking the blonde girl to a porn movie on a date, getting farther from us while at the same time forcing us to share his perspective. In that, this stays as an above average spectacle, and a below average study on alienation.


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Reply #147 on: May 21, 2020, 03:23:08 PM
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Reply #148 on: May 21, 2020, 04:55:00 PM
Hmm...