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Reply #15 on: November 10, 2018, 12:15:39 PM
Saw this for a third time yesterday, I think it's my favorite of the year.
 
My first watch, it felt like an explosion of ideas with a handful falling far off from the target. But now I feel the opposite of putney -- I love that it chews on early giallo's seediness and 35mm color tints with designed subtleties, as opposed to the original's Supernatural surrealism, and each frame is stitched into the next to a point where I've never felt the runtime, and always wanted to investigate each shot's production details. This works for me now as Suzy'z metaphysical guilt trip film and as psychological horror from Josef's POV.

What really helped is I finally saw Edward Yang's Terrorizers

That orange pick axe is the first foreboding prop pointed at our witness, but by the time Josef is sitting in the police office, the production design has literally turned on him.


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Reply #16 on: November 17, 2018, 07:28:38 PM
Just back from seeing this and not sure what my opinion is. I think I liked it. It sure is overlong and problematic and not for everybody, but it has a way of getting under your skin. Six people walked out during the screening I was at - two of them after arguing with me as I first asked politely, and then told them firmly, to put their phones away - and four due to the pacing from what I could tell.

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I don't get why Tilda played multiple roles. I could tell it was her under make up from the first trailer but there was no cinematic payoff to it. I just don't get why they did it - all it did was distract me as I was waiting for some kind of reveal to this obvious trickery.

I also agree that slow motion looks terrible unless it's shot with slow motion in mind. There is an amateur feel to the film at times but I think that rough quality is part of it's alluring charm. It made me think of Nic Roeg during some of the montage work. And it's a lot better than Mother! in my opinion. Thom Yorke's score is excellent - some of the parts with lyrics reminded me of In Rainbows era Radiohead.


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Reply #17 on: January 14, 2019, 04:42:55 PM
I loved it. 2+ hours but actually went by like a breeze. This is the kind of horror film I love, where it's more about the feeling you get throughout. I think the final third had some issues compared with the heights of everything that came before, but still... Can't wait to rewatch and dig into a lot more.


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Reply #18 on: January 15, 2019, 06:27:23 PM
(Light spoilers)

When I hear that a movie "goes off the rails at the end," I actively seek it out, and I usually end up appreciating it, if not loving it. I hoped that would be the case with Suspiria. It was not.

The first hour or so is absolutely magical. I was hooked. But let's be honest here: where it goes is sort of the whole point of the thing. And where it goes is definitely not good or satisfying or coherent in any way that one could extract any significant meaning from. Not only was it a crushing disappointment on a surface level; it left me believing that the movie never really had anything to say.

(I would love to be persuaded, but it would take a lot.)

And yes, Tilda Swinton's other role as the psychiatrist was just awful. For a while I sincerely thought it was another character in disguise, and that tearing off the rubber mask would be a plot development. But no. I just don't understand the point of it. Why do that to an actor? It certainly did nothing for the movie. Maybe it was an experiment to see how well Tilda Swinton could act without using a human face.

And it's a lot better than Mother! in my opinion.

Blasphemy!

(In my view, mother! knows what it's doing in every scene and every moment from beginning to end, and it does so masterfully. Suspiria sort of knows what it's doing, then just kind of farts itself to death.)
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