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Reply #15 on: October 23, 2017, 05:20:35 PM
You're dead on about his girlfriend though. Shame.

Just finished the season last night. The show gets better, but that character never does.
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Reply #16 on: October 28, 2017, 11:57:56 PM
Yea, the show was very meh to me. While watching the show, I saw Fincher redo every standard of period piece filmmaking he established in Zodiac. This time he was just given a chance to do a version of that in longer form. All filmmakers enjoy certain types of stories and Mindhunter feels like Fincher returning to one of those. The show is fine in many senses and if Zodiac didn't exist, this would have felt more novel for him.


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Reply #17 on: July 30, 2019, 01:28:51 PM
If I could move the night I would
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Well there's nothing wrong with loving things that cannot even stand
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Reply #18 on: August 03, 2019, 02:06:22 PM
You're dead on about his girlfriend though. Shame.

Just finished the season last night. The show gets better, but that character never does.

I finally finished the first season two years later and agree with Polka. Also I'm reading rave reviews of this upcoming season. Fincher is back, and I'm optimistic we'll get a solid season 2 bump. Also that trailer was great.

I'm not convinced we'll ever get a show that comes close to filling the vacuum of GoT, so we have to get our fill with stuff like this.


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Reply #19 on: August 03, 2019, 02:18:12 PM
The trailer gives me optimism that the producers are as aware as I am that Cameron Britton's perfomance as Ed Kemper is by far the show's strongest weapon.
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Reply #20 on: August 05, 2019, 08:36:54 PM


I don't understand how Manson enters the picture but I haven't even watched a second of this show, so...
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Reply #21 on: August 17, 2019, 10:23:17 AM
"Hunger is the purest sin"


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Reply #22 on: August 17, 2019, 11:48:27 AM
I'm six episodes in and am really digging it. 3 Finchers, 2 Dominiks...we'll see how Franklin wraps it all up.
If I could move the night I would
And I would turn the world around if I could
There's nothing wrong with loving something you can't hold in your hand
You're sitting on the edge of the bed, smoking and shaking your head
Well there's nothing wrong with loving things that cannot even stand
Well there goes your moony man
With his suitcase in his hand
Every road is lined with animals
That rise from their blood and walk
Well the moon won't get a wink of sleep
If I stay all night and talk


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Reply #23 on: August 25, 2019, 10:34:53 AM


Kemper is very Kemper like.
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Reply #24 on: August 25, 2019, 11:18:16 AM
I thought episode 5, particularly the scenes interviewing Manson and Watson especially well-written and performed.  I think I've got 3 or 4 episodes left to see...
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Reply #25 on: August 25, 2019, 12:24:58 PM
Mindhunter season 2.

Ugh, the subplot with the son of Bill is incredibly stupid; they really struggle to connect the personal lives with the work lives. I didn't really mind the girlfriend in season 1, even though everything that concerned her was in direct link with the cases, too. But it wasn't overdramatic. Not to mention that Bill's wife constantly sounds like a bot coming directly out of a misogynistic twelve years old boy.

Methinks they should simply stop with the personal stories.
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Reply #26 on: August 26, 2019, 11:17:07 AM
I have discovered that a most interesting real-life parallel to Mindhunter resides in the office I've been working in the past few months. Our UPM, an older American Spirit-smoking woman with a very wry sense of humor, revealed to me that she had produced back in the early 80s for HBO what was for all intents and purposes the first ever documentary on the subject of serial killers, the term having been only recently coined at the time. Chief among their interviewees was Mr. Edmund Kemper himself; all of the famous footage of him from that period - much of which provided a great deal of Kemper’s dialogue in Season 1 - stems from this very documentary, therefore placing her right there in the room with him as he muses on all the nightmarish shit he made his name on. She claims they had a short-lived correspondence as well, this at the behest of whoever was treating him at the time, apparently in an effort to encourage healthier relationships with women. She also spent time and corresponded with Bundy, amongst a few other unfortunate notables. After telling me all of this, she turned to leave for the evening, then paused, chuckled, and said something under her breath to the effect of, “I oughta dig those out…”.

Here’s the doc, if interested:


Note: She has some cool credits as UPM and/or Producer: Leon: The Professional, Empire Records, Spanish Prisoner, a handful of Whit Stillman's....
If I could move the night I would
And I would turn the world around if I could
There's nothing wrong with loving something you can't hold in your hand
You're sitting on the edge of the bed, smoking and shaking your head
Well there's nothing wrong with loving things that cannot even stand
Well there goes your moony man
With his suitcase in his hand
Every road is lined with animals
That rise from their blood and walk
Well the moon won't get a wink of sleep
If I stay all night and talk


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Reply #27 on: August 26, 2019, 12:07:26 PM
The world of movies is small and entertwined with serial-killers. My, oh my.

I learned that Kemper threw darts to his mother face all night long. Fun guy. And he'll go, like, "this was the eventual product of the anger I developed over the years". No shit, Sherlock.
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Reply #28 on: August 26, 2019, 04:58:49 PM
He also claims he buried the heads of co-ed's in his mother's garden out back, which her bedroom window looked out upon; he would bury them face-up, he says, because all her life "my mother wanted people to look up to her." What a wit, old Kemper.
If I could move the night I would
And I would turn the world around if I could
There's nothing wrong with loving something you can't hold in your hand
You're sitting on the edge of the bed, smoking and shaking your head
Well there's nothing wrong with loving things that cannot even stand
Well there goes your moony man
With his suitcase in his hand
Every road is lined with animals
That rise from their blood and walk
Well the moon won't get a wink of sleep
If I stay all night and talk