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Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi

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Reply #60 on: September 16, 2018, 05:36:39 PM
it's also not a very interesting meta narrative - literally every franchise reboot has a character almost winking at the audience declaring "this shit is old" - cue Jurassic World when Bryce Dallas Howard said "nobody is interested in dinosaurs anymore", Batman v Superman when Jeremy Irons said "nobody is interested in Batman fighting Superman", and here where multiple characters are like "nobody is into star wars anymore" which was said not just by Adam Driver but also Yoda and Luke and pretty much the whole movie.
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Reply #61 on: September 16, 2018, 06:17:39 PM
here where multiple characters are like "nobody is into star wars anymore" which was said not just by Adam Driver but also Yoda and Luke and pretty much the whole movie.

Really?
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Reply #62 on: September 16, 2018, 07:56:26 PM
lol @ the idea of pete going back to watch the movie and find the exact quotes

he means it's like impossible for them to not act self-aware, which really does puncture the fantasy illusion, and sucks, and was present in The Last Jedi for sure


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Reply #63 on: September 16, 2018, 08:25:26 PM
it's not just that it breaks the fourth wall - but that it breaks fourth wall THE WAY EVERY SOFT REBOOT breaks fourth wall, but with a little more twitter-awareness than your Jurassic World. But what could "burn the old" coming from every single character's mouth possibly mean in the story aside from telling the audience "this is not your daddy's star wars!" I'd be fine if there was something else going in the movie, but I just wasn't even sure why else the movie felt like you needed to see it aside from letting you know that they were gonna pivot from their last pivot from two years ago.
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Reply #64 on: October 02, 2018, 02:29:04 PM
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it sounds so funny to me. i didn't read the article but i thought this might appease jb


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Reply #65 on: January 26, 2019, 09:09:10 PM
A friend made me watch this again the other evening on his enviably indulgent home theater set-up and by god this time around I think I liked it! Or at least came to the conclusion that my initial flat-out hatred of it was silly and ill-considered. Color me converted!
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Reply #66 on: January 27, 2019, 03:47:00 PM
This is kind of my favorite Star Wars film. At least of the new ones. But this is coming from someone who didn't grew up with the first trilogy, or was a huge fan to begin with. I just think this one is the most enjoyable. Also really like the Rey/Kylo (Ridley/Driver) combo and the set pieces in this one.


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Reply #67 on: January 27, 2019, 04:47:20 PM
a year later, still can't stand it. just can't believe all the usual TV-style wheel-spinning and retconning are suddenly deemed philosophical and subversive. I know JJ Abrams didn't write it but they're doing the same shit as they did on Lost.
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Reply #68 on: January 27, 2019, 09:32:03 PM
Yeah I feel ya - to be clear, I don't suddenly *love* it, just simply found more there to admire this time than the first go round. It is interesting to contrast these new ones pace-wise with the original trilogy, particularly A New Hope - it has a great, very 70s pace that would never ever fly now, sadly.

All that said, the fact remains that, for me, if Harrison Ford isn't in it I really have to be feeling generous.
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