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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #540 on: January 26, 2018, 07:02:54 PM »
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Can we all agree this poster is ungood?

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« Reply #541 on: January 26, 2018, 07:45:35 PM »
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yikes dont let that be the bluray cover or something!

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« Reply #542 on: January 26, 2018, 09:25:20 PM »
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sooo, how soon is too soon to talk about how poor the box office numbers are? :(

6.8/35 million is rough, worse than any of his other films if i remember correctly. hope awards season draws a lot of people to it, at least.

So far it's performing just slightly better than IV based on opening weekend income. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=inherentvice.htm   http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=paulthomasanderson2017.htm

I'm a bit surprised by that given the glowing reviews and "DDL's last movie" as the big draw. We'll see how it does since it's gotten all these Oscar nominations. Plus I have a bit of a hunch that it'll perform better in the foreign market than IV, given its setting of dressmaking in Britain and DDL, but I really don't have any evidence to support my hunch beyond that.

Edit: I saw Phantom Thread two times over the weekend at my local Landmark cinema, the first time early in the afternoon and the second time late at night on a Saturday. During the afternoon screening, there were some small groups of older people scattered about and I think one young dude by himself at the back (probably a PTA buff). And then on Saturday, the attendance was about the same but the groups were younger ... and this time there was again another lone presumed PTA buff by himself at the back, plus me by myself at the back. Ha. I found all this sort of amusing.

It's harder than ever to get people to go and see movies. Phantom Thread haemorrhaging money shouldn't be a surprise, sad as it is.

Why do studios and financiers continue to shell out money for such projects, then? Obviously I want PTA's movies to get made. I'm becoming more interested in the topic. I see a lot of people talk about home video and streaming, but I can't see home video sales being that large, and I guess streaming rights would pay a bit, but I again can't imagine a ton from that either. Is financing for relatively smaller, artsier projects being phased out?

P.S. That new poster looks like the cover of a $1 romance novel I'd get at a garage sale. Part of me likes it as a guilty pleasure ... but it is pretty bad.  :yabbse-grin:

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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #543 on: January 26, 2018, 11:16:13 PM »
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Can we all agree this poster is ungood?

This can’t be a Stanton...
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« Reply #544 on: January 26, 2018, 11:36:33 PM »
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As far as home video and streaming goes, PTA has said that his films typically do pretty well there. Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood are very popular on Netflix and Amazon Prime every time they go up, and Boogie Nights and Magnolia (especially BN) are in regular rotation on premium movie channels to this day.

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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #545 on: January 27, 2018, 03:00:32 AM »
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Can we all agree this poster is ungood?

This can’t be a Stanton...

Yeah, no way is that a Stanton. For one thing, Dustin for sure has the actual typefaces used to market the movie to date, and this poster uses something else—a sign it was designed by someone who didn't have the original font files and went, "eh, close enough!"

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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #546 on: January 27, 2018, 02:46:04 PM »
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The blu-ray is up for pre-order

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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #547 on: January 27, 2018, 03:00:10 PM »
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That just might be the worst PTA poster ever.
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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #548 on: January 27, 2018, 03:22:47 PM »
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The poster art seem like a rushed skirt, designed by some hack after hearing the surprise Oscar announcements, who just hours later designed this tasteless turd.

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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #549 on: January 27, 2018, 03:25:04 PM »
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As far as home video and streaming goes, PTA has said that his films typically do pretty well there. Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood are very popular on Netflix and Amazon Prime every time they go up, and Boogie Nights and Magnolia (especially BN) are in regular rotation on premium movie channels to this day.

I wonder if those sales are enough to cover, for instance, the ~$5 million box office-to-budget deficit for Inherent Vice. I'm really ignorant on the subject and the expected earnings from streaming and home video sales, so I just don't really know. But it does strike me as a lot to be banking on to approach a good profit.

The blu-ray is up for pre-order

Nice! If you google the release date, it says it's expected in April, but digital HD from Amazon and iTunes is expected February 2nd. That's remarkably soon! Thought I'd have to wait at least a month after it left theatres in major cities. I will still buy the blu-ray too for the highest quality.

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« Reply #550 on: January 27, 2018, 03:38:23 PM »
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As far as home video and streaming goes, PTA has said that his films typically do pretty well there. Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood are very popular on Netflix and Amazon Prime every time they go up, and Boogie Nights and Magnolia (especially BN) are in regular rotation on premium movie channels to this day.

I wonder if those sales are enough to cover, for instance, the ~$5 million box office-to-budget deficit for Inherent Vice. I'm really ignorant on the subject and the expected earnings from streaming and home video sales, so I just don't really know. But it does strike me as a lot to be banking on to approach a good profit.



Home video and television rotation contributes to the salaries to actors and director yearly. I bet many inactive actors still earned money from the movies only because they were being heavily shown on HBO. The profits in the box office goes to more then half of the studio who distributes the film in question. Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood weren't exactly box office smashes but they did earned decent cashed in release along with earning award nominations.  I'm not sure if Inherent Vice will grow a cult following that will hopefully pushed to profitable levels, as it would need a specific demographic such as stoners to spread the word of mouth that this is the movie to bong out.

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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #551 on: January 27, 2018, 04:40:54 PM »
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That February date for the Digital HD release seems weird, but that's what Amazons says on its website too. Nothing is announced for iTunes yet, though...Well. I don't think it's true, it would be really weird since it would be at the same time as Europe or even before some countries in Europe.
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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #552 on: January 27, 2018, 04:58:55 PM »
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That February date for the Digital HD release seems weird, but that's what Amazons says on its website too. Nothing is announced for iTunes yet, though...Well. I don't think it's true, it would be really weird since it would be at the same time as Europe or even before some countries in Europe.

Yeah, I was thinking it seems really weird too considering what you said. The 2nd is this Tuesday.

Edit: Whoops, the 2nd is not this Tuesday; it's Friday. Misread my calendar.

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« Reply #553 on: January 27, 2018, 05:41:45 PM »
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The blu-ray is up for pre-order

There's a 4K blu-ray release up for pre-order in Canada, so that's probably coming in the US, too. If not, same region code anyway.

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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #554 on: January 28, 2018, 12:54:08 AM »
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That February date for the Digital HD release seems weird, but that's what Amazons says on its website too. Nothing is announced for iTunes yet, though...Well. I don't think it's true, it would be really weird since it would be at the same time as Europe or even before some countries in Europe.

I seem to recall Inherent Vice becoming available on Digital HD  a few months before the bluray...
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