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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #255 on: October 23, 2017, 10:18:19 AM »
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Update: Watched the trailer. PTA enters his Merchant Ivory phase?

A thought I had. God, I hope not.

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« Reply #256 on: October 23, 2017, 10:23:31 AM »
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I haven't watched the trailer yet but don't be surprised when PTA gets run through the 2017 Woke Filter.

Fucking agree. Don't mean to sound like a pretentious gatekeeper on all things PTA but it's just sad that he has to exist and make movies in the current media landscape. Also, I'm stealing the phrase "woke filter".

LOL. I immediately thought of the shitstorm that "Life of Brian" created with conservatives (and others) who (of course) hadn't seen the film.

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« Reply #257 on: October 23, 2017, 10:28:55 AM »
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Lest we forget that Editing is All, an exchange I had this morning with @TheLollipopking who had seen a "test" trailer a month or so ago: 

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Woah!! This is not the trailer I saw at all!

The middle has a lot of shots I recognize & feels familar, but the entire tone is totally different.

When I compared it to something like Carol....the one I saw had a lot more Christmas scenes, where she's wearing the red gown.

The scenes in the beginning and the end don't look familar at all.

The moment where she asks why he's never been married had a completely different feel.

The way they framed that scene in the trailer I saw, I thought she was an assistant who was very infatuated with him, and was too naive...

To realize he was gay and still in the closet.

This trailer shows much more of an actual relationship, rather than a mentor/pupil relationship the one I saw implied.

Yeah, I think I mentioned it before, but I thought it was an unrequited love scenario. She being infatuated, but DDL merely having affection

[edit] It will be interesting to see how "accurate" this trailer is.  How revealing of the nuances, story, etc are in the actual finished edit.  This might be pure marketing?  Specifically, for example, to get non-PTA-fanboy butts in theater seats?

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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #258 on: October 23, 2017, 10:31:05 AM »
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Update: Watched the trailer. PTA enters his Merchant Ivory phase?

Good one.  Seems unlikely, but made me laugh...

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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #259 on: October 23, 2017, 10:32:52 AM »
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Obviously I don't know the contents of the film but this looks positively mild in comparison to...almost everything he's made before. If folks are looking for 'problematic', they have a rich 20 year career they can explore.
I'd like to think that PTA's stuff is (generally) about people with issues, in rough spots and observing them without judgement.


Update: Watched the trailer. PTA enters his Merchant Ivory phase?
Ha!

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« Reply #260 on: October 23, 2017, 10:40:49 AM »
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I'd like to think that PTA's stuff is (generally) about people with issues, in rough spots and observing them without judgement.

Love that.  It's one of my favorite things (from a long list) about Boogie Nights. 

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« Reply #261 on: October 23, 2017, 10:41:18 AM »
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Looks good. Anderson seems back to being relaxed in camera movement for casual scenes. Seems like he is combining slower paced tone of his recent historical films with techniques that flooded his early films. I doubt he ever makes a film that tries to be Magnolia or Boogie Nights again, but I think that's a good thing too.

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« Reply #262 on: October 23, 2017, 10:48:38 AM »
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I doubt he ever makes a film that tries to be Magnolia or Boogie Nights again, but I think that's a good thing too.

I doubt it, too--but I'd love to see a late-career return to that kind of youthful energy.  Just to prove he could still pull it off.

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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #263 on: October 23, 2017, 10:49:06 AM »
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I love the trailer although it showed too much for my taste, I kind of expected a trailer in the fashion of EWS.

Anyway, my anticipation for this movie has skyrocketed.

That poster is so bland tbh.


Thought this was an interesting reaction. 

https://twitter.com/luv_2read/status/922476086344105985

I hear her but that is the reality of that world.

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« Reply #264 on: October 23, 2017, 10:53:58 AM »
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So when do you think it will be shown to critics? Late November? Do you think this will make any festivals?

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« Reply #265 on: October 23, 2017, 11:04:02 AM »
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I don't have a twitter. Can someone check what 3 accounts @phantom_thread is following now? It was following 0 yesterday.

The usual. Universal. Annapurna. Focus Features.
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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #266 on: October 23, 2017, 11:04:53 AM »
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I love the trailer although it showed too much for my taste, I kind of expected a trailer in the fashion of EWS.

Anyway, my anticipation for this movie has skyrocketed.

That poster is so bland tbh.


Thought this was an interesting reaction. 

https://twitter.com/luv_2read/status/922476086344105985

I hear her but that is the reality of that world.

Poster doesn't feel bland to me.  I got kind of a "classy" vibe off of it.  And, yes, the reality of THE world is that older men are often attracted to younger women (and vice-versa).

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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #267 on: October 23, 2017, 11:07:43 AM »
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Alexander McQueen sewed secret obscene scribblings (phrases and pictures) into the linings of garments he worked on during his time as an apprentice at Anderson & Sheppard back in the late 1980s. (See Andrew Wilson's biography, p. 50.)

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Re: Phantom Thread
« Reply #268 on: October 23, 2017, 11:08:30 AM »
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By the way, this does look very much like a Mike Leigh film. The rumor about PTA doing Mike Leigh may be correct.

I wondered that, but I'm not going there. A period piece featuring a small technical crew is generally going to look a certain way. Mike Leigh and Ken Loach have made a career of doing those kind of films. They flooded the market for standards when it come to independent British filmmaking.

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« Reply #269 on: October 23, 2017, 11:13:53 AM »
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By the way, this does look very much like a Mike Leigh film. The rumor about PTA doing Mike Leigh may be correct.

I wondered that, but I'm not going there. A period piece featuring a small technical crew is generally going to look a certain way. Mike Leigh and Ken Loach have made a career of doing those kind of films. They flooded the market for standards when it come to independent British filmmaking.

Yes. I have seen the first two frames of the trailer and it looked like a PTA movie to me. In England.
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