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« Reply #105 on: April 12, 2005, 02:41:03 PM »
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in hindsight, does anyone feel lost in translation is way overrated?
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« Reply #106 on: April 12, 2005, 02:49:42 PM »
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there's a great thread...

http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=3446

EDIT: And fuck, no!

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« Reply #107 on: April 12, 2005, 03:08:38 PM »
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in hindsight, does anyone feel lost in translation is way overrated?


Nope.

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« Reply #108 on: April 12, 2005, 03:08:51 PM »
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Christopher Doyle:
"It's articulating the Bush doctrine of how to engage with the rest of the world. Let's all be Americans, that's what it's saying."
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« Reply #109 on: April 12, 2005, 04:15:00 PM »
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Christopher Doyle:
"It's articulating the Bush doctrine of how to engage with the rest of the world. Let's all be Americans, that's what it's saying."


Yeah, I read that...and that's crap. How could a film as obviously personal as this be propaganda?

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« Reply #110 on: April 12, 2005, 10:47:06 PM »
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He doesn't mean it's an actual mouthpiece for the government.....
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« Reply #111 on: April 12, 2005, 11:20:30 PM »
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Still an absolutely idiotic comment to make.
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« Reply #112 on: April 13, 2005, 07:09:20 AM »
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nope.
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« Reply #113 on: April 13, 2005, 12:34:12 PM »
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nope.


...and for the others that agree (with Doyle's statement), please explain to me why.

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« Reply #114 on: April 13, 2005, 02:51:54 PM »
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a film doesn't have to be "propaganda" in order to embody a belief.
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« Reply #115 on: April 13, 2005, 03:03:19 PM »
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Okay, wrong word...

People read into it what they want. She wrote about her own experiences in Tokyo. She's american and people in Tokyo happen to be asian. Sure there were some cheap jokes about language but I don't think that's what we're talking about, is it?

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« Reply #116 on: April 13, 2005, 03:12:54 PM »
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that is assuming her "American" perspective is a sensitive and innocent one (one that is inoffensive to the rest of the world that is weary of globalization and class differences).  That is also assuming that one's point of view cannot transcend above what is deemed an "American" p.o.v..
BTW, the "bush doctrine" is also a "personal" one, I mean, it's even named after the guy.
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« Reply #117 on: April 13, 2005, 03:24:37 PM »
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Okay, I can't argue with what you're saying, it's about different perspectives.
All I see is something deeply personal without judgment. But we all come from different backgrounds and relate to things differently. This one I do very much though not literally.

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« Reply #118 on: April 13, 2005, 03:51:43 PM »
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Even if the film is ethnocentric in some way (I personally don't think it is), I don't see how it promotes a uniquely American way of life. The most flawed characters in the movie (John and Kelly) are a fairly harsh critique of the American lifestyle.
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« Reply #119 on: April 13, 2005, 11:24:11 PM »
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again, that is assuming that "American lifestyle" is a singular entity.  The democrats are fiercely against a lot of "American" things and still remain fiercely American themselves, yet to the rest of the world (or parts of the world) Clinton was just as bad as George W..
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