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Reply #90 on: January 04, 2004, 12:39:35 AM
i concur.
i wanna lick 'em.

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Reply #91 on: January 04, 2004, 08:18:16 PM
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it was probably banned because it's a terrible movie. Buffallo 66 was a-okay in my book, but as far as i've heard Brown Bunny is awful.

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Big Brother Billy Brown is indeed watching and it ain't got nada to do with the hapless Bills either. Have you seen the movie Stefen, with 2 e's and f? Stop hearing and commenting on what you know squat about, and start watching and thinking for yourself, you gaffer. Buffalo 66 was a personified masterpiece, so re-read your book.


Buffallo 66 was lower than a-okay in my book. I was being nice. And no I have not seen Brown Bunny, why would I want to watch a crappy movie? Time is valuable homie.


Stick to fluffing Ringo and learn to spell... Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo, not Buffallo you fooll.


It's spelled "fool" with one L. Not two like Buffallo.



You are quite the douche bag...

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Reply #92 on: January 04, 2004, 08:23:32 PM
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I think what billybrown's point was before the discourse degenerated was that believing all the negative publicity about Brown Bunny is foolhardy. See the movie for yourself, then judge. Each and every movie is a potential waste of time; this is the price we pay for loving movies. The good ones make sifting through the bad ones well more than worthwhile. "Buzz," hearsay, rumor, and criticism are never acceptable substitutes for seeing the damn thing yourself and making up your own mind.

"It was probably banned because it was a terrible movie" doesn't make a lick of sense, in any case. Plenty of terrible movies are released to great popularity and acclaim. A movie's content may make distributors jumpy or restrict where and when it can be shown, but the content of a film getting people in an uproar merely distracts from the real issue, which of course is the quality of the film. Brown Bunny is one of those peculiar cases, but I for one am going to do everything in my power to judge the film on its merits AS A FILM when I see it. Not all the endless, (mostly) meaningless chatter that has surrounded it.



Thank you Godardian!

Alas, I've grown tired of trying to impart and explain any degree of rational or sensible thinking to intellectually challenged twats the likes of Stefen. Ah well, cest la vie, I guess...

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Reply #93 on: January 04, 2004, 08:27:47 PM
Enough with the remarks against other members.
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Reply #94 on: January 04, 2004, 08:38:46 PM
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Enough with the remarks against other members.


Yes, sir...  :oops:

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Reply #95 on: January 05, 2004, 12:11:29 AM
people, people.. we're all douche bags.  :Fade-color
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Reply #96 on: March 07, 2004, 03:46:01 PM
Hey, check this out.

Seems like a pretty good deal...realtively speaking, of course. Plus, just think of what a great ice breaker it would be the first day you used it on a set!

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Reply #97 on: March 08, 2004, 08:49:20 AM
"All in all, Gallo put more effort into this production package than the whiny Wes Anderson, the sputtering Spike Jonze, the un-darling Darren Aronofsky have put into their whole lives."


Not for nothing, but that's hilarious...
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

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Reply #98 on: March 08, 2004, 09:17:09 AM
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"All in all, Gallo put more effort into this production package than the whiny Wes Anderson, the sputtering Spike Jonze, the un-darling Darren Aronofsky have put into their whole lives."
Not for nothing, but that's hilarious...

And also funny, because he just named three superior filmmakers in one sentence. I hope he noticed...

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Reply #99 on: March 08, 2004, 09:19:13 AM
Anderson could be considered his superior. I laugh at the other two, and I even like Pi and Requiem. But Buffalo 66 towers over those guys. At any rate, it's still funny.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

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Reply #100 on: March 09, 2004, 11:56:11 PM
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"All in all, Gallo put more effort into this production package than the whiny Wes Anderson, the sputtering Spike Jonze, the un-darling Darren Aronofsky have put into their whole lives."
Not for nothing, but that's hilarious...

And also funny, because he just named three superior filmmakers in one sentence. I hope he noticed...


Superior how and according to who?

As SoNowThen said, Buffalo 66 towers over pretty much anything those guys have done, he just doesn't have that pseudo-art house, wanna-be hipsters scene singing his praises because he is so outspoken and doesn't cater to special interest groups and make himself a media darling. I read somewhere that at Cannes, Sean Penn made the comment that had The Brown Bunny listed Chloe Sevigny as the director, it would've been hailed as a masterpiece, but with Gallo's name attached, many people went out of their way to unjustly rip the film (some having not even seen it - memo to Cinephile) because he comes off so unlikebale to all these tite-assed, PC types.

IMHO, Vincent Gallo is an exceptionally talented artist, and even if just Buffalo 66 were his cinematic legacy, it' better than 95% of the shit out there that is hailed as "brilliant", "visionary", and "groundbreaking."

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Reply #101 on: March 10, 2004, 12:05:13 AM
buffalo 66 is great, but it reminds me too much of a very well photographed student film project, where as the other filmmakers have made, well, more accomplished films.

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Reply #102 on: March 10, 2004, 12:13:42 AM
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buffalo 66 is great, but it reminds me too much of a very well photographed student film project, where as the other filmmakers have made, well, more accomplished films.


If Gallo had the money the other filmmakers had, im sure he could make something as well made and accomplished as the other filmmakers. Gallo is an artist in many facets of art, hes a breath of fresh air in an artistic sense. I'm such a hypocrite.
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Reply #103 on: March 10, 2004, 01:04:03 AM
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buffalo 66 is great, but it reminds me too much of a very well photographed student film project, where as the other filmmakers have made, well, more accomplished films.


If Gallo had the money the other filmmakers had, im sure he could make something as well made and accomplished as the other filmmakers. Gallo is an artist in many facets of art, hes a breath of fresh air in an artistic sense. I'm such a hypocrite.

the budget is not what made me make the student film analogy...i cant really articulate what makes me feel that it is amateur, but you can defenitely sense it's a first of a director.

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Reply #104 on: March 10, 2004, 01:06:30 AM
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buffalo 66 is great, but it reminds me too much of a very well photographed student film project, where as the other filmmakers have made, well, more accomplished films.


If Gallo had the money the other filmmakers had, im sure he could make something as well made and accomplished as the other filmmakers. Gallo is an artist in many facets of art, hes a breath of fresh air in an artistic sense. I'm such a hypocrite.

the budget is not what made me make the student film analogy...i cant really articulate what makes me feel that it is amateur, but you can defenitely sense it's a first of a director.


I agree Pedro, '66 is pretty amateurish but overall still a good movie. But with a bigger budget he could probably do more damage.
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