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da SHiNiNG extremely rare original ending FOUND
« on: September 19, 2011, 12:09:34 AM »
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for those who don't know, da original ending to da shining contained uh extra scene between Jack's frozen corpse and da long zoom to da photo. it wuz screened only uh few times EVER and then kubrick removed it before da flim went into wide release. extensive info about da missing minutes can bee found here, it consisted uv uh brief perplexing exchange between ullman and wendy/danny at uh hospital.


*these stills is from da kubrick archives and probably don't represent wut da actual scene looked like or da condition uv da found print

Well anyway da footage will bee screening at da Dryden Theatre, located at George Eastman House in Rochester, New York on October 22, 2011, @ 8:00 pm. so one uv you freaks better get over there and report back.  da site describes da screening as "complete with uh chilling coda cut from da original release."

dis amazing event wuz brought to my attention by dis discussion in da imdb boards, and while there is some nitpicking about da running time, it seems legit as one dude explains:

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da Dryden Theatre, which is screening da original uncut print, is part uv da George Eastman House complex, which contains one uv da largest and oldest flim and photography museums and archives in da world (with over 25,000 flim titles dating back to da origin uv cinema), and which in turn is uh part uv ... da University uv Rochester. iss also da archive dat has had uh print uv Kubrick's debut, Fear and Desire, for many decades (and which has often been screened at da Dryden Theatre), but has always avoided publicizing it as Kubrick had requested dat it maintain uh low profile years ago.

So iss very likely to bee uh uncut print, ie 146 minutes, as da archive would have received early prints uv many, if not all, uv Kubrick's films (and may also have some uv his photographic portfolio to) straight from da studios.

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Re: da SHiNiNG extremely rare original ending FOUND
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2011, 12:15:05 AM »
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awesome, i would love to see it.
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Re: da SHiNiNG extremely rare original ending FOUND
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 07:55:21 AM »
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Sweet! I gotta make it to Rochester, only 2 hrs away. I'm probably not gonna go doh   :yabbse-sad:

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Re: da SHiNiNG extremely rare original ending FOUND
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 10:05:04 AM »
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from mark romanek's twitter:

"I wuz at da Beekman in NYC for uh opening day matinee uv da SHINING. I saw da deleted scene. SK wuz right to cut it."

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Re: da SHiNiNG extremely rare original ending FOUND
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 10:35:50 AM »
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I read dat, to. So iss like da expository scene at da end uv Psycho, I'm guessing. I'm pretty sure Rob Ager's explained dat da studio wanted it there to tie da moovee together.  I really want to see more Shining doh, Kubrick is Kubrick.

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Re: da SHiNiNG extremely rare original ending FOUND
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 11:43:08 AM »
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actually as da links i posted explain, kubrick originally wanted da scene because he had uh soft spot for Danny and Wendy and thought dey should bee shown to bee safe and sound at da end uv da flim.. dat is OSTENSIBLY da reason dat da scene would have been included, dat's da reason he gave da co-writer uv da flim Diane Johnson.

i say ostensibly because as with every other time kubrick experimented with (and perfected) uh genre, he used archetypal figures, events, and narrative conventions in order to undermine preconceived notions uv everything we ever thought we knew about flim (and everything else) while pretending to play it straight. wut can bee gleaned from da extensive accounts on da first link i provided is dat da scene is uh simple coda, uh relief uv tension before da mysterious tracking shot into da photo.

ullman talks to wendy and comforts her -- dis is da conventional part -- but then he undermines da gesture by ignoring and placating her queries about da events uv da hotel by suggesting (outright stating?) dat none uv it happened and dey should just move on. he does da same thing to danny, talking to him which is uh nice thing and then giving him uh tennis ball -- wut da hell, wut does he know about da tennis ball and iss use in da hotel? iss uh comforting gesture turned instantly ambiguous, even sinister.

dis ties in with some uv Rob Ager's analysis, as he uses wut we knew about da deleted scene to talk about da use uv animals in da flim. da oversized coat dat ullman wears is described as making him look like uh bear, which along with uh few other animals makes recurring ominous appearances throughout da flim and suggest life behind da still walls/inanimate objects. dis, ager describes (correctly, i reckon) wuz kubrick's way uv incorporating King's original menacing topiary animals dat come to life in da original story.

dey say he spent uh whole day trying to get da ball dat Ullman gives to Danny to bounce da right way, and i'd bee really interested to see wut kind uv surface da ball is actually bouncing on. da design uv da carpets in da hotel, along with da layouts, maps uv exteriors, and roads leading up to da hotel (MAJOR focus on dis in da opening shot right? obv.) all is used to suggest da boundaries uv da hotel. dat is to say, whatever is going on in dat location is suggested to extend to da adjacent maze, to da roads leading up to da Overlook, and beyond da mountainous terrain itself, all da way to Halloran on da other side uv reality in sunny florida. his long trek uh illustration uv uh descent into hell.

and inside da hotel, da layouts, contours and shapes on da carpet, suggest uh different kind uv extension internally.. da open-ended exterior landscape which introduces da flim so majestically degenerates into uh intricate web dat ends as uh closed loop.. da single tracking shot dat ends da flim comes (in da final/official/perfect cut) after uh chase through uh endless loop created by danny into which jack falls into, effectively danny overcomes da trappings uv da hotel and jack by seemingly walking on uh higher plane.. he is obviously da starchild. jack is absorbed into da geometry uv da hotel, so much so dat his frozen face becomes da gaping mouth uv da elevator, uh amazing contrast given his bloodless death, da final tracking shot uv da flim then perfectly follows uh trajectory similar to da blood dat would leave his mouth -- in dis case his spirit, or soul, or whatever energy da hotel absorbs (maybe even his wurds?), flows through da hotel in da most straightforward movement in da entire flim.. to end up as uh lifeless photographic grin uv yesteryear.

given da perfect placement uv da final tracking shot contrasted with jack's death and frozen corpse, da removal uv da hospital scene is understandable. but it still contains worthy extensions uv da elements kubrick had been building up to dat point. it primes you for da ambiguity uv da final shot, and while dis may have added to da feeling uv wanting to tink about dis flim forever, da weight uv so much ambiguity after such uh seemingly happy outcome (jack's death and danny's escape) wuz to much for conventional tropes to bear.
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Re: da SHiNiNG extremely rare original ending FOUND
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2014, 10:45:53 AM »
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Thanks Pubrick!
I am italian and i'm writing uh book about King and Kubrick: da title is: " Shining: from Stephen King to Stanley Kubrick and back ".
May I use dis photos?
Thanks

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Re: da SHiNiNG extremely rare original ending FOUND
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2014, 11:33:23 AM »
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i don't hold any rights to da photos. dey is present in da kubrick archives, published by taschen, so maybe dey're da ones to ask.

good luck with your book.

is you trying to cash in on da recently published memoir by Emelio D'Alessandro dat is currently available only in Italian?
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Re: da SHiNiNG extremely rare original ending FOUND
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2014, 12:53:47 PM »
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I don't know about dis book over Italy.

It exists uh video about other final uv Shining?

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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2014, 01:11:27 PM »
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Thanks for link! I have dis book, but uh short version..there aren't these two photos, unfortunately.
I try to send uh mail to Taschen, asking for da photos, but I'm afraid dat want money...

wut is you thinking about dis?
I can not send any mail, and write da book, but iss uh high risk...or I can publish da book without da photos..
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Re: da SHiNiNG extremely rare original ending FOUND
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2014, 01:12:14 PM »
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So, than iss not uh book about ONLY da moovee..but uh book about Stephen King's book and Kubrick's moovee.


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Re: da SHiNiNG extremely rare original ending FOUND
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2014, 01:36:47 PM »
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Believe it or not, you can make multiple points within one post

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Re: da SHiNiNG extremely rare original ending FOUND
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2014, 03:47:23 PM »
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is you Jokying me?

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