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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #135 on: April 04, 2013, 10:58:11 AM »
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It will be shot exactly like "Angels Live in My Town"

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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #136 on: April 04, 2013, 11:34:58 AM »
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THE BIG LEBOWSKI + KISS KISS BANG BANG + THE LONG GOODBYE + ZODIAC + ALL The CHEECH And CHONG MOVIES + SOME REFERENCES TO VERY OBSCURE STONER MOVIES AND FILM NOIR + THE CAMERA WILL MOVE A LOT MORE (I HOPE).

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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #137 on: April 04, 2013, 03:42:53 PM »
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The Big Lebowski + Punch Drunk Love with a dash of the first half of Chinatown. And that's not even approaching it visually.


There's so much hilarious dialogue in the book (and I'm very much aware Paul himself is a master of the stuff), I hope some of it remains intact.

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Yes, I see a little potential for Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #138 on: April 05, 2013, 01:08:43 AM »
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There Will Be Drugs.


what movies outside of PTA's filmography do you predict it'll be like? Ever since the speculation about RDJ starring, I haven't been able to get the image of him in 'Zodiac' out of my head. Now that he's out, it still stands as the film I most compare it to in my mind- Late 60's detective story set in California. That's the only thing I can relate it to, I've read 5 pages of the book. People who've finished it, how do you see the movie turning out without being too specific about things?

RDJ's character in Zodiac definitely reminds me of Doc.
As far as movies go: The Long Goodbye, Chinatown, The Big Sleep, Up in Smoke......not quite sure what else. After reading some interviews from The Master, its clear that PTA loves his film noir

The book is mysterious enough to make a crime thriller, yet whimsical enough to be a stoner comedy

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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #139 on: April 05, 2013, 10:50:04 AM »
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After reading some interviews from The Master, its clear that PTA loves his film noir

yeah, he talked about wanting to do it in B&W early on to make it noirish and 'of the period' but decided it wouldn't fit (it wouldn't). He must've just been anxious to try a different film technique and I'm glad he discovered 70mm.

I love film noir! It's been waaay too long since I've checked out a good one. I haven't even seen 'The Big Sleep' and most of the classics. See, this is why I love PTA- With every movie he makes I'm introduced to different types of films:

Sydney- Phillip Baker Hall's body of work ( and he also suggests that Sydney is an over the hill noir character )
Boogie Nights- Classic Porn
Magnolia- Multi-Narrative Films
Punch Drunk Love- Jacques Tati
There Will Be Blood- John Huston
The Master- Cult Films ( the kind that are about cults )

and I've read enough of Inherent Vice to know that this is his stoner film noir. I have a question- has weed ever been in one of PTA's movies? I don't think it has, in Boogie Nights I'm sure there's some joint passing going on in the party scenes but it's never a focal point ( and it really shouldn't be- weed's not cinematic like coke is. ) Call me out if I'm wrong about this... I'm just excited to see PTA portraying the BEST DRUG IN THE WORLD after he's done all the worst ones to death (Nicotine, Alcohol, Cocaine, Opiates)

So again he switches the style up and if they hate then let 'em hate and watch no money pile up.
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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #140 on: April 05, 2013, 12:25:11 PM »
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I love KOOLS
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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #141 on: April 05, 2013, 12:37:09 PM »
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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #142 on: April 05, 2013, 04:58:21 PM »
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Speaking of Tati- have you seen Playtime? That is an incredible film

Now, that's an unforgettably unique experience.

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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #143 on: April 05, 2013, 06:11:42 PM »
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The Big Sleep is fantastic, so is The Maltese Falcon. Bogart was a maverick.
...those aren't great movies, i don't think. imo they suck, tbh. pt has claimed to be a john huston fan and said nice things about treasure of the sierra madre, and i think in a lonely place is pretty good, but big sleep and maltese falcon don't strike me as examples of great or "maverick" film noirs.

saying this 'cause there are certain film noirs i do love -- detour, kiss me deadly, postman always rings twice, out of the past, scarlet street, crime wave, angel face, 5 against the house, the long night, pickup on south street, narrow margin -- and they have nothing to do with bogart. strange necessity imo. hmmm
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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #144 on: April 05, 2013, 06:18:17 PM »
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Completely with you on The Maltese Falcon and The Big Sleep. I'm not really a fan of The Narrow Margin, either. I love In A Lonely Place, Double Indemnity, Niagara (if you count that), Sweet Smell of Success, The Naked City, Cape Fear, the underrated Murder By Contract, Blast of Silence, etc. Still tons I need to see. It's the one genre I keep coming back to when I feel I've exhausted other avenues.

Also, I'll take Mitchum over Bogart any day.

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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #145 on: April 05, 2013, 07:13:30 PM »
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ok random conversation. funny you dislike narrow margin, better not tell wim wenders! sweet smell is not a noir. omg random, nvm :))
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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #146 on: April 05, 2013, 07:23:48 PM »
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The Big Sleep is fantastic, so is The Maltese Falcon. Bogart was a maverick.
...those aren't great movies, i don't think. imo they suck, tbh. pt has claimed to be a john huston fan and said nice things about treasure of the sierra madre, and i think in a lonely place is pretty good, but big sleep and maltese falcon don't strike me as examples of great or "maverick" film noirs.


that's too bad, because they are great movies. And sure, you could even call them maverick- but I was specifically referring to Bogart

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« Reply #147 on: April 05, 2013, 07:25:32 PM »
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I know, I know. Most of my favorite "noirs" fall on the outskirts of the the genre. NotH, Melville's stuff, etc. It's all been talked about to death.

This is probably a conversation Xixax had in 2003 or something. Everyone else: how do you guys deal with the repetition of topics? It must drive you insane.

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Re: INHERENT VICE
« Reply #148 on: April 05, 2013, 07:29:40 PM »
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I know, I know. Most of my favorite "noirs" fall on the outskirts of the the genre. NotH, Melville's stuff, etc. It's all been talked about to death.

Which Melville films would you recommend? only ever seen Army of Shadows. Recently downloaded Bob le Flambeur

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« Reply #149 on: April 05, 2013, 07:51:37 PM »
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I know, I know. Most of my favorite "noirs" fall on the outskirts of the the genre. NotH, Melville's stuff, etc. It's all been talked about to death.

Which Melville films would you recommend? only ever seen Army of Shadows. Recently downloaded Bob le Flambeur

Most of them. Bob is great. Definitely Le Samourai, Le Cercle Rouge, Le Doulos, and Le Deuxieme Souffle. After those, Leon Morin, Priest, Le silence de la mer and Un Flic, although a lot people seem to be iffy on the latter. Magnet of Doom was kind of forgettable from what I recall. Les enfants terribles also didn't have much of an impact on me, but I haven't seen it for a long time.

 

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