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come on new feel and capt'n, you guys really need to move on.

but Pasers, seriously get off xixaxixaxsx, :hammer: yourself and go double feature Shining Nights.

oh man, I'd love to be pas right now and do that for the first time.


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yes it's clear from that quote that I was attempting to shame the members of this board.  

for the record I was just using the term embarrassment as I thought we were using it in this thread.  It was not intended as any kind of judgement.  I think that was pretty clear.  And it has nothing to do with their foreign nature I just think they are fairly underseen outside of academic film nerd circles, which I don't really consider this conversation to be about.  If I hadn't seen Breathless or Jules et Jim or Seven Samurai or 8 1/2 or a number of other generally well known foreign films I would've mentioned them but I think those movies I mentioned are basically only known by the most dedicated cineastes.  Whereas everyone here knows all about virtually all of the other movies that we've discussed in this context.  When someone says they haven't seen Star Wars it's news, when someone says they haven't seen Ugetsu it's expected, I'm sure you can understand this.  Perhaps I am wrong.  Ok I'm done explaining this sorry I hit a nerve or something.  Now I really am going to watch some movies.    

good thread, sort of


I think it's clear from my post, in which I directly state that I'm not trying to shame, that I'm not trying to shame you.  Check out this list:

http://www.filmdetail.com/archives/2008/11/23/cahiers-du-cinemas-100-greatest-films/

What film is above Breathless and Jules et Jim and Seven Samurai and 8 1/2?  Ugetsu.  Tokyo Story too.  They're goddamn milestones!, and I'm no longer even a little pissed at you because I can clearly see you had good intentions and love cinema and all that, and please, walk wherever you like I was only being colloquial, but if I can't voice a little support for some truly important and potentially life changing films than what the hell are we all typing here for?  See the movies!  I'm embarrassed for you that you haven't seen them yet (within the context of this thread)!

In the future I'll attempt to focus my posts in order to avoid a litany of replies, because everyone else is probably as tired of us as Fernando is.


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It's kinda embarrassing that I havn't seen Star Wars, Dr.Strangelove or any Lars Von Trier yet (own both Dogville and Antichrist though)


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yo who here has seen ugetsu?


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yo who here has seen ugetsu?

i hav and it's amazing. i havn't seen any other mizoguchi but i have a feeling ugetsu is his EWS, it's that good.

i swear there was a mizoguchi thread around here somewhere..
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Holy crap, I leave for work in the morning, and by the time I get back there's a new six-page thread.

In solidarity with Pas, I had gone 28 years of my life without having seen The Shining.  I finally saw it for the first time about a month ago, after buying the blu-ray at Best Buy for 12 bucks.  I've never seen Barry Lyndon, Lolita, or the first half of Eyes Wide Shut (don't hate me, P!).  I've only seen one Fellini film (8 1/2), one Antonioni film (L'avventura), one Bergman film (Persona), one Truffaut film (Shoot the Piano Player), and one Von Trier film (Dancer in the Dark).  I've never seen Gone With the Wind.  I've never seen Raging Bull, Goodfellas, or Casino.  I've never seen a Wong Kar-Wai film.  The only David Lynch films I've seen were Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, and half of Lost Highway (don't hate me again, P!).  I've seen Jaws in bits and pieces on TV throughout the years, but never the whole movie all in a row.  I've never seen Psycho, Rear Window, Strangers on a Train, or Vertigo.  I haven't seen Spider-Man 3, X-Men 3, or Super-Mans 2-4.

Movies that I own, but have never seen, include:
Glory
Patton
The New World
Bullitt
Synecdoche, New York
All the President's Men
Two Lovers
Persepolis
Day for Night
Epidemic
Dazed & Confused
The Diving Bell & The Butterfly
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I am genuinely ashamed to say that I have not seen any films by the following directors: Kenneth Anger, Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Derek Jarman, Abbas Kiarostami, Kenji Mizoguchi, Mikio Naruse, or Wong Kar Wai.

Even though this post might not be valid unless a lot of other people here have seen movies by these filmmakers ( :wink: in reference to other conversation), I adore Anger, and if you've gone Blu my friend informs me that the region 2 Anger collection, put out by BFI, has great quality.  For that matter modage mentioned Kieslowski, and my friend says the same thing about the region 2 Double Life of Veronique.  I hear it's pretty easy to make a blu-ray player regionless, and I also hear that amazon.uk is reasonably priced.  I haven't tried this angle yet, but in lieu of theater screenings, if you guys want to explore these filmmakers and are blu I'd envy you experiencing them in high quality first.  Kiarostrami's Close-Up is soon to be released by Criterion, and that's definitely a great place to start with him.  I think Jarman is aggressively experimental, even for my tastes, and so with that in mind I recommend the not at all easily accessible Edward II.  It's  :shock: in a lot of great ways, as most of his films are.  The BRD Trilogy and Ali:  Fear Eats the Soul are easy entrances into Fassbinder, which may be why Criterion released them first I don't know. Wellspring put out a ton of his movies, but Wellspring is out of business and those are OOP now.  I think you can really start anywhere with Wong Kar Wai, except maybe save Ashes of Time and know As Tears Go By isn't his fully developed voice.  With Mizoguchi Criterion also has two great releases, and I actually love them equally.  I've never even heard of Mikio Naruse!  I'll definitely check him out, and if you're going to soon as well let me know and we should watch the same one.  Oh wait I see only  When a Woman Ascends the Stairs is on dvd (right?), so if you're going to watch it let me know and I'll watch it too.

I didn't want to leave your post hanging, although you may have already guessed the basic recommendations I'm supplying here.


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never seen:
gone with the wind
lawrence of arabia or any david lean
the searchers or any john ford
the good, the bad & the ugly
the shawshank redemption
any lord of the rings
any hawks, cassavetes, kurosawa, kazan, peckinpah, von trier

turned off halfway through:
ordinary people
the right stuff
the cook, the thief, his wife & her lover
serpico
the thin red line

didn't care much for 8 1/2, persona, dr. strangelove, harold and maude, blow up

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I actually recently got some Anger, Fassbinder and Jarman that I haven't got round to watching yet (on vhs, free from the BFI when they were dumping all their videos a while back!), so for convenience's sake I'll likely start with them. (And I'm afraid I've not 'gone blu'!)

The Anger collection includes Fireworks, Puce Moment and Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome, the Jarman is Glitterbug, and the Fassbinder is Chinese Roulette. I definitely want to see Ali: Fear Eats the Soul too for the All That Heaven Allows / Far From Heaven connection. I've also got Wong Kar Wai's In the Mood for Love. The only excuse I have for not having not seen all these yet is that I'm close to the end of my phd thesis and feel obligated to watch only films relevant to that at the moment! It's not a good reason though really.

I've heard so many great things about Close Up that I think that's definitely where I'll start with Kiarostami.

I've never even heard of Mikio Naruse!

Naruse has recently been raved about from various corners in the UK due to a BFI retrospective last year, so I feel obligated to check him out at some point. I'll definitely post my thoughts if and when I get round to watching any of these.
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Wow. Shame on us. 6 hours for this to go 6 pages...

There are lots of films I should have seen but didn't until my uni years where I made up for that. None off the top of my head that I can think of now other than the Alien films. I have the DVD boxset, and I've watched the first one. Other than that, I guess there are some classic 70s movies I've yet to get to. More Scorsese than I care to admit. Taxi Driver is the big one. Never completed Raging Bull, but I've bumped it back up the netflix. The Conversation. Some Warren Beatty flicks... I haven't seen any of the Rocky movies. But I've read the screenplay for the first one. And worked out to the soundtrack to Rocky 2. And I was far too old when I saw Star Wars for the first time. Godfathers too. Really didn't get into 8 1/2.

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I actually recently got some Anger, Fassbinder and Jarman that I haven't got round to watching yet (on vhs, free from the BFI when they were dumping all their videos a while back!), so for convenience's sake I'll likely start with them. (And I'm afraid I've not 'gone blu'!)

The Anger collection includes Fireworks, Puce Moment and Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome, the Jarman is Glitterbug, and the Fassbinder is Chinese Roulette. I definitely want to see Ali: Fear Eats the Soul too for the All That Heaven Allows / Far From Heaven connection. I've also got Wong Kar Wai's In the Mood for Love. The only excuse I have for not having not seen all these yet is that I'm close to the end of my phd thesis and feel obligated to watch only films relevant to that at the moment! It's not a good reason though really.

Are you across the ocean?  If so I envy your superior selection of blu-rays, and wish you a future upgrade yourself.  But, maybe you're the type to find a vhs romantic.  I'm the type too.  It's the variety of viewing experiences that's such a treasure.  I have a cult film fiend of a friend who likes to show me movies like The Legend of Boggy Creek, in his apartment on his older tv with all the lights on while we eat cookies and there's really no emphasis on the movie experience.  It's exactly the opposite of my apartment's denlike set-up, where the whole living room is arranged around the television and the blinds are always closed (alas, this makes my apartment unsuitable for party arrangements).  Maybe you have them for convenience sake, or for pecuniary sake, anyway I'm becoming sidetracked:  I intended to say, if you can, although I'm sure you're terribly busy, the 20 mins required to view Anger's Fireworks are so rewarding, inspiring, illuminating, etc positive adjs, that I want to urge you to take those 20 mins in order to watch the film.  20 minutes, that's it, that's all that's required to watch the film of a then-17 year old Hollywood High student.  A film of visual specificity and emotional abstraction, blurred car lights in the evening streets, flaming Christmas trees, romantic sailor figures, and Kenneth Anger, in the middle of it all, conducting a visual orchestra of his subconscious.  You'll either like the film and watch it a million times, or some other tepid alternative, so why not take the plunge?  Take the plunge!


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Okay, you've convinced me on Fireworks - I'll check that out very soon. I am indeed in the UK. And the vhs thing is for a number of reasons: not wanting to replace every video I ever bought is one, convenience for showing clips in lectures and conferences is another. I've got plenty of dvds too of course, in case I'm coming across as some total nostalgia nutjob. Like you, I've got my dvd den, but I also have my vhs den.

EDIT: I just remembered - of course my ultimate embarrassing cinephile confession, made in another thread, is that I STILL haven't seen House Party!
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Maybe I turned off Boogie Nights halfway through but at least I just started the best thread of the year amirite  :yabbse-thumbup:


Thanks Polka for the Shining comfort.

Jerome you got some pretty good classic stuff in there! No Peckinpah and Kurosawa is pretty evil.

also, really funny the people who go: ''look, really sorry... like, I don't want to say it but... I've never seen any film from Gloder Van Vorkenson... yikes!''

...... guys.........

fuck this is just unforgivable.......

ah shit I'm sorry ok I know I talked shit about these films and I know I pretended I saw them ok.

I've never finished a Quentin Tarantino movie. I started Jackie Brown I think. The rest I just talked about by reading IMDB. I just hate Tarantino ok!

So yeah... pretty awful I guess  :yabbse-undecided:



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Maybe I turned Boogie Nights halfway through but at least I just started the best thread of the year amirite  :yabbse-thumbup:
I've never finished a Quentin Tarantino movie. I started Jackie Brown I think.

So yeah... wow I'm pretty awful right

So, how did all those criticisms manifest?

Films i've never seen.

Barton Fink
Seven Samari (but i own the criterion post war collection from Kurosawa and have watched all them)
Never watched any of the Lord of the Rings
Unforgiven
Sunset Boulevard
Mean Streets
I'm not sure if i've watched a Cassevettes film.
Lolita
Not sure if I've watched a Malick film, God, no wonder i'm not liked around here.

Oh and, Easy rider.  Fuck.
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Shit I came back to delete my post and you already quoted it! God damn you, wonderful thread!