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Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 25, 2005, 08:13:44 PM
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Best Visual Effects: ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND

THE NOMINEES

The Aviator
The Day After Tomorrow
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Spider-Man 2
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: Myxo on February 25, 2005, 09:36:17 PM
This beats both Spiderman 2 and Sky Captain for special effects?
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: picolas on February 25, 2005, 09:39:33 PM
yeah.
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: Gold Trumpet on February 25, 2005, 10:19:50 PM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
This beats both Spiderman 2 and Sky Captain for special effects?


Special Effects don't have to mean "computer effects", or in the case for those two movies, "computer-based movies"
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: Kal on February 26, 2005, 12:19:01 AM
True... but visual effects... give me a break... Spidey nailed that one... thats one thing nobody can criticize about the movie!
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 26, 2005, 01:02:19 AM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
special effects?

Visual effects. They need not be computer-generated.

Actually, I thought the CGI when Joel gets shrunk was a little tacky... it's the organic stuff (like the hair face or the sink or the crumbling house) that's really good. It makes me happy that this movie won this award its inaugural year.
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: socketlevel on February 26, 2005, 04:32:26 AM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
This beats both Spiderman 2 and Sky Captain for special effects?


special effects doesn't always mean computer special effects. this was a great departure from this common style.

-sl-
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: Pubrick on February 26, 2005, 09:41:17 AM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
This beats both Spiderman 2 and Sky Captain for special effects?

the category is Visual Effects.
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: Just Withnail on February 26, 2005, 09:59:02 AM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
beats


preferred to.
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: Cory Everett on February 26, 2005, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Actually, I thought the CGI when Joel gets shrunk was a little tacky....

thats not cgi, its also practical.  didnt you watch the special features?  they built a set where the perspective makes him look small because everything towards the back of the set is huge and the front is regular sized.
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 26, 2005, 11:09:54 AM
Quote from: themodernage02
thats not cgi, its also practical.  didnt you watch the special features?  they built a set where the perspective makes him look small because everything towards the back of the set is huge and the front is regular sized.

I know, I know, but I swear there's at least one moment when he is CGI (I think it's when someone else big is next to him). It was really noticeable.
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: Cory Everett on February 26, 2005, 11:18:26 AM
i dunno....  you'd have to find the shot and cap it.

imdb trivia: Virtually all of the most bizarre and fascinating scenes in this movie were created with old fashioned camera, editing, lighting and prop/set tricks. The use of digital effects was very limited. The striking kitchen scene with Joel as a child was created with an elaborate forced perspective set-up similar to some used by Peter Jackson in the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 26, 2005, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
The striking kitchen scene with Joel as a child was created with an elaborate forced perspective set-up similar to some used by Peter Jackson in the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

I pointed out on page 7 (http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=366&start=103) that the same kind of thing was done in The Sea That Thinks. That movie's forced perspective was far more interesting (and elaborate) than Eternal Sunshine's (or LOTR's for that matter).
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: pete on February 26, 2005, 02:00:40 PM
are you saying that the sea that thinks invented two-shot with two characters or seemingly different sizes?  have you ever been to a science museum?
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 26, 2005, 02:08:26 PM
Quote from: pete
are you saying that the sea that thinks invented two-shot with two characters or seemingly different sizes?

No, I'm just saying it was better.

The best part is when the guy shrinks when he walks from his bed to the door (it happens in that bedroom with the checkered floor).
Title: Best Visual Effects
Post by: RegularKarate on February 26, 2005, 04:20:09 PM
I don't think there's any CG in the scene that JB is talking about (in Eternal Sunshine).  I'm pretty sure it's all forced perspective and that's really maybe the most poorly executed part of that film's effects.

and not to go off subject here, but NOTHING beats the forced perspective in LOTR.  That shit was MECHANICALLY BUILT so they could perform camera moves and keep the perspective.  The set moved with the camera.