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Title: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Reinhold on February 02, 2014, 12:38:36 PM
Reports of Philip Seymour Hoffman dead in his apt.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304626804579358943360702878.html
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Post by: MOGWAI on February 02, 2014, 12:58:40 PM
This is the kind of the shock I got when I heard about Heath Ledger. Just can't believe it.
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Post by: max from fearless on February 02, 2014, 01:00:22 PM
This is fucking horrible....RIP....can't believe it.....
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Post by: KJ on February 02, 2014, 01:01:06 PM
yeah, this is... I don't even know what to say or what to do.
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Post by: Bethie on February 02, 2014, 01:04:11 PM
you guys


 :yabbse-sad:
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Post by: polkablues on February 02, 2014, 01:07:40 PM
That one hits hard. He was a guy I always assumed would ultimately overcome his addictions. There are going to be a lot of movies from here on out that could have been better with him in them.
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Post by: P Heat on February 02, 2014, 01:21:00 PM
Man..  I literally signed on here for the 1st time in a while because of the news...
 fuck.
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on February 02, 2014, 01:31:54 PM
I just can't believe this shit. RIP. You were one of the greats.
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Post by: Pozer on February 02, 2014, 01:33:44 PM
Gutted.
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Post by: Kellen on February 02, 2014, 01:35:04 PM
such a fucking bummer.  :yabbse-sad: :yabbse-sad: :yabbse-sad:
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Post by: ©brad on February 02, 2014, 01:35:30 PM
What a gut punch. I feel so bad for his kids.

He made every movie he was in better and was so captivating and inspiring to watch. Very few actors can bring something new and unique to each role they play. His talents brought all us weirdos together for going on two decades now.

Ugh. This one really hurts.
















Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: MOGWAI on February 02, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
What a gut punch. I feel so bad for his kids.

He made every movie he was in better and was so captivating and inspiring to watch. Very few actors can bring something new and unique to each role they play. His talents brought all us weirdos together for going on two decades now.

Ugh. This one really hurts.

Well said! And welcome back Pozer!
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: ono on February 02, 2014, 01:49:12 PM
RIP PSH  :cry:

I think I'm gonna watch Hard Eight for you.  Oh and The Master, of course.

EDIT: That article is down.  Anyone else got a link?
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: polkablues on February 02, 2014, 01:57:09 PM
EDIT: That article is down.  Anyone else got a link?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/02/showbiz/philip-seymour-hoffman-obit/ (http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/02/showbiz/philip-seymour-hoffman-obit/)
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: I am Schmi on February 02, 2014, 02:00:52 PM
The cinema and theatre world lost one of the best talents to ever grace the world of acting. This is depressing, and I'll admit that I even cried when I heard the news. Right now I am more angry than I am sad. Condolences to his young family.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: squints on February 02, 2014, 02:12:44 PM
I've been saying this all day, but I haven't been this affected by a famous person dying since Kurt Vonnegut died :(

Rest in peace you beautiful bastard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k0-pSCwcx4
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Kellen on February 02, 2014, 02:41:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5m6FrFsi8Y
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: polkablues on February 02, 2014, 03:02:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCHd5jsCdo4
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: wilder on February 02, 2014, 03:06:47 PM
Horrible and shocking. You looked at his performances and thought "there's a dude who gets it". The world suddenly feels lonelier without him.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 02, 2014, 03:20:38 PM
People don't talk enough about his performance in Before the Devil Knows You're Dead. Some of the scenes would be very hard to watch now, but this one is pretty great.

Massive spoilers ahead...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrSA5tw_KSc
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Post by: Drenk on February 02, 2014, 03:23:36 PM
...
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Post by: O. on February 02, 2014, 04:26:57 PM
holy shit
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Post by: Reelist on February 02, 2014, 05:25:14 PM
(http://media.giphy.com/media/X7CW4uqU7xoQw/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Drenk on February 02, 2014, 05:30:59 PM
(https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1045153_10201346480006669_1913996_n.jpg)
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Lottery on February 02, 2014, 06:22:18 PM
Fuck. He was one talented dude.
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Post by: Fernando on February 02, 2014, 06:26:01 PM
so unexpected, for us or for me a least it feels closer than any other death because of PTA and his great collaboration with him.

we will miss him greatly.  :yabbse-sad:

maybe im nitpicking here but I think he should have his own thread, he isnt just ''the next to croak''
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 02, 2014, 06:53:43 PM
maybe im nitpicking here but I think he should have his own thread, he isnt just ''the next to croak''

Good call. Done.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Kellen on February 02, 2014, 07:11:24 PM
The Moment Philip Seymour Hoffman Became a Star (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/02/02/philip_seymour_hoffman_death_his_great_performance_in_paul_thomas_anderson.html)
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Sleepless on February 02, 2014, 07:39:37 PM
I discovered PSH before I discovered PTA. I fell in love with him as Lester Bangs in Almost Famous. Since then, I've watched him in a ton of movies which have had a huge impact on my life: The Big Lebowski, Talented Mr. Ripley, 25th Hour, and of course all his PTA films. He seemed like a great guy. Right now as I'm writing this, all I can think of is that bit in the Magnolia making of doc where Paul is giving him a tough time about how he takes a simple direction and makes it into a huge performance lol. I'm looking forward to reading statements form PTA/JCR.

RIP Phil.

"That's that."
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Post by: Frederico Fellini on February 02, 2014, 07:49:51 PM
I'm watching Magnolia right now, I'm crying....   I can't even imagine how PTA feels. I feel sick. R.I.P MASTER.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: tpfkabi on February 02, 2014, 10:03:08 PM
Sad.
Remembered the D&D Matress Man commercial.
On my phone I can't see where there must be an edit for PSH to come back in after the fall by what I assume
must be a stunt person who is edited in right before the jump.

 Shut shut shut shut shut up

The man got to fake doggy Marissa T and get ghost jerked by Amy A.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: 03 on February 03, 2014, 12:33:15 AM
i dont know what to say...i do a lot of drugs...but i dont know why he would do this to us
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: The Ultimate Badass on February 03, 2014, 12:40:42 AM
My absolute favorite factor. What a fucking shame.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Find Your Magali on February 03, 2014, 12:54:41 AM
No. Just NO.

RIP, Philip.

Thoughts are with your family, especially those three children.

The world is a little darker today.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Pubrick on February 03, 2014, 02:17:40 AM
I can already see the white text fading in on black background after the final shot of Inherent Vice.. "In memory of"

He'll probably get a special mention in the oscars too.

it's not just someone famous, it's not just someone who was in successful movies and then died an ironic and sudden death, it's not just someone who had played an iconic tv character and then made an ok movie that everyone went to see because it was his last movie and have already forgotten what it was about cos it wasn't that good.

this guy was a great artist. he had real passion. like someone else here said, he was someone who "gets it". and he was so close to PTA! i don't think there's any other actor who has played a more influential role in his development as a filmmaker, maybe PBH or JCR. it's like if De Niro had died right after Goodfellas.

i feel like a simple in memoriam will not suffice. that he needs to honoured in some greater way than just a few words on a screen. maybe pta will step up to the plate.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: picolas on February 03, 2014, 03:33:46 AM
the most important thing about hoffman for me was his ability to play ANY character, and how inspiring that is. not just as an actor, but as a human. he reflected the broadest possible range of humanity. as special as each individual performance was, the sum of those parts is so profound it's difficult to contemplate. one guy went to all those places.

and he was incredibly generous about his art. i don't blame someone like ddl for taking years between movies, but hoffman gave us an absurd number of beautiful performances, even in stuff that was otherwise garbage. he wasn't precious about his abilities. he did along came polly the year before capote. there's always a collection of really singular artists on this planet doing their thing, but very few of those artists can be that prolific.

it's really hard to process that i'm living in a world where he no longer gives his art. the idea of losing him was so out of the realm of imagination.

we were incredibly lucky to get so much from psh while we could.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: cronopio 2 on February 03, 2014, 09:24:32 AM
what picolas said.
the range of PSH was insane. i was watching bits of Mission Impossible 3 on TV with my friends on saturday, then i took an eight hour bus trip yesterday, start getting messages on the cell phone about his death and Moneyball comes up. i try not to get cosmical about these things, so what i think happened was:
while my friends and i were surfing tv, we stopped surfing BECAUSE we saw seymour hoffman was on screen and paid attention to how he pulled off the role of a villain in a mediocre hollywood movie. it can be said that his performance is what saves that movie from falling into complete mediocrity. he earned that credibility at a very young age, something we're now getting with people like cumberbatch, fassbender, jonah hill and joaquin phoenix, who was more of a contemporary and thanks to our beloved pta, now makes perfect sense to think of as a binary with PSH.
not only was he convincing whenever he acted, you paid attention to the amount of humanity he was able to portray. it sounds dumb but what i mean is that to me it's still mind blowing that he could do that 'this is the scene in the movie' scene from magnolia and be the bad guy in PDL and the catholic priest in Doubt and Willy Loman on stage and Jacob Elinsky in the 25th Hour and Caden Cotard on Synecdoche and the Master.


Those of us who feel spiritually sculpted by what his roles meant on a personal level will now get the unpleasant flavor of knowing that the radiance he portrayed is now a lost instrument. For the unlucky rest, I suppose he will be thought of in the way I think of John Belushi, a childhood hero of mine who's only testament of greatness is how much presence he brought, even if he was gone when I saw his films.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Mel on February 03, 2014, 09:59:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSr95DpzK_c

Highlights like this give a glimpse at what he was able to do (looks like video is distorted on purpose). Face is the same, while the rest is hardly recognizable... Fucking chameleon! Not only he could shed the skin on demand (which is very rare trait in itself), but he was able to act a hell of a lot even out of crappy films.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: N on February 03, 2014, 12:44:17 PM
Feels so strange to wake up in a world without PSH this soon, I never could have guessed that.

R.I.P. This guy was one of the best, miss him already.

Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Myxo on February 03, 2014, 12:57:57 PM
More than anything when I heard this news I was overwhelmed by a feeling of loneliness. Here's a man with a wife, kids and this tremendously successful acting career who wanted to escape it all. He must have felt so alone and ashamed trying to battle his addiction all over again. That more than losing his art makes me saddest.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Alexandro on February 03, 2014, 01:10:07 PM
I'm sad by this, and very sad for his family. This is a major art force gone. His resumé is impeccable, there is not one bad performance or sleepwalk role.

Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Cloudy on February 03, 2014, 03:42:54 PM
I feel a deep sense of wrong continuing on with life casually after this. This shocked my existence and so many others so much more. Thank you for this last burst of feeling and jolt of life's complexity Phil, I hope it scars.

*edit: this won't be the last.
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Post by: Neil on February 03, 2014, 04:23:53 PM
As someone who has lost their father to similarly tragic circumstances (substance abuse/alcoholism---> Electroshock therapy in rehab---->suicide)  I too feel immense grief and sadness for his family. The havoc that all of the unanswered questions and all that is left unresolved between PSH and those who were close to him can be a very difficult battle to win, or even make progress with. PSH was a real genuine man, which is not only rare in acting but also within human existence during the 21st century.  This is one of the many reasons why he was such a successful actor, because he had more humanity inside of him than most people will ever be able to make sense of, and on top of that he was able to synthesize that humanity and use it in such a cathartic way that is rarely seen in theater or on the stage.. 

I know that i've shed many a tear over how deeply this man's performances have touched me.

Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: max from fearless on February 03, 2014, 05:55:15 PM
Just read this, focuses on PSH and specifically his performance in The Master.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/04/movies/a-o-scott-on-philip-seymour-hoffman.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

(http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/02/04/arts/04HOFFMAN/04HOFFMAN-master495.jpg)

A. O. Scott on Philip Seymour Hoffman from NY Times


Further evidence is not hard to find. Mr. Hoffman worked a lot over the past 15 years or so — in ambitious independent movies, Hollywood blockbusters and theater productions on and beyond Broadway — and nearly always did something memorable. (If you remember anything about the 2004 romantic comedy “Along Came Polly,” for instance, it is likely to be Mr. Hoffman’s terrible basketball skills and the equally dubious romantic advice he gives to Ben Stiller in that film.)

His dramatic roles in middle-sized movies (“Capote,” “25th Hour,” “Doubt,” “Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead,” “The Savages” and “Synecdoche, New York,” to keep the list at a manageable half-dozen for now) were distinguished by how far he was willing to go into the souls of flawed, even detestable characters. As the heavy, the weird friend or the volatile co-worker in a big commercial movie he could offer not only comic relief but also the specific pleasure that comes from encountering an actor who takes his art seriously no matter the project. He may have specialized in unhappiness, but you were always glad to see him.

Mr. Hoffman’s gifts were widely celebrated while he was alive. But the shock of his death on Sunday revealed, too soon and too late, the astonishing scale of his greatness and the solidity of his achievement. We did not lose just a very good actor. We may have lost the best one we had. He was only 46, and his death, apparently from a drug overdose, foreshortened a career that was already monumental.

We will be denied his Lear, his Prospero, his James Tyrone in another “Long Day’s Journey Into Night.” (He was the son Jamie in a 2003 production of that play.) But he had already, in the last few years, begun to shift from troubled adults to tragic patriarchs. His Willy Loman in the 2012 Broadway revival of Arthur Miller’s “Death of a Salesman” was a scalding, operatic depiction of vanity, self-delusion and raw emotional need, conveyed with force and delicacy sufficient both to deliver the play’s message and to overcome its sentimentality.

What he did in “The Master,” his fifth film with the writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson, was even grander. It may take the world a while to catch up with that journey into dark, uncharted zones of the American character, but once it does it will discover, in Lancaster Dodd, an archetype of corrupted idealism, entrepreneurial zeal and authentic spiritual insight.

But also, as that character likes to say, with ostentatious modesty, of himself: just a man. Dodd is flesh and blood, appetite and imagination, a precisely rendered creature of his place and time. Mr. Hoffman’s diction, his barreling physicality, his displays of Rotarian jollity and earnest intellectualism establish Dodd as an exemplary (if eccentric) postwar American, an expression of the same curious cultural ferment that produced Willy Loman.

Of course “The Master” is after something more than reimagined history. Like Dodd himself, it wants to penetrate the perennial mysteries of the human personality, one specimen at a time. Dodd is a healer, a con artist and a self-proclaimed prophet. He is also, perhaps above all, an actor: a performer, an impromptu singer and stand-up comedian, a man with a Method. He calls it the Cause, but his technique of psychological exploration, based on the excavation of memory and the opening up of barricaded emotional territory, shows clear affinities with the process most stage and screen actors use to find their way into a character.

Mr. Hoffman’s way — not necessarily affiliated with any particular school or ideology, and above all the product of his own restless intelligence and relentless drive — took him further and deeper than most of his colleagues would be willing to venture.

Lancaster Dodd could have been a familiar type: a charming, slippery, charlatan. Mr. Hoffman made him more than that. One of his earliest scenes is an interview — part therapy, part interrogation — with Freddie Quell, a disturbed veteran played by Joaquin Phoenix. The unmistakable rumble of Mr. Hoffman’s voice conveys both sadism and compassion: Dodd’s simultaneous urges to help, to seduce and to dominate his new protégé. Later, when Dodd makes a toast at his daughter’s wedding banquet, we see both his arrogance and his insecurity, and catch a flicker of the loneliness that feeds his insatiable and destructive hunger for love.

Dodd at once invites our judgment — he does terrible things in the service of questionable ends — even as Mr. Hoffman compels our admiration. His goal seemed to be not just the psychological truth that has long been the baseline criterion of post-Method acting, but a moral uncertainty that remains too fraught and frightening for many of us, in art or in life, to engage.

This is not just a matter of seeking out gray areas or mapping ambiguities. Hoffman’s characters exist, more often than not, in a state of ethical and existential torment. They are stuck on the battleground where pride and conscience contend with base and ugly instincts.

Lancaster Dodd sacrifices his intelligence on the altar of his ego. Truman Capote risks his integrity and betrays his friends in pursuit of his literary ambitions, his motives a volatile mixture of compassion and morbid curiosity. The schoolteacher in “25th Hour” and the lonely predator in “Happiness” are both indelibly creepy. The frustrated academic of “The Savages” is merely (if also splendidly) misanthropic, and the grumpy theater artist of “Synecdoche, New York” may be merely (if also baroquely) frustrated. The priest of “Doubt” and the would-be criminal of “Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead” are potentially much worse.

These are not antiheroes in the cable television, charismatic bad-boy sense of the term. They are, in many cases (and there are more, going all the way back to “The Talented Mr. Ripley” and even the 1992 “Scent of a Woman”), thoroughly awful people: pathetic, repellent, undeserving of sympathy. Mr. Hoffman rescued them from contempt precisely by refusing any easy route to redemption.

He did not care if we liked any of these sad specimens. The point was to make us believe them and to recognize in them — in him — a truth about ourselves that we might otherwise have preferred to avoid. He had a rare ability to illuminate the varieties of human ugliness. No one ever did it so beautifully.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Sigur Rós on February 04, 2014, 05:17:48 AM
He mastered the difficult art of playing real people for better and worse. Always in solidarity with the people he was portraying, and you sensed always the person behind. With his heavy breathing, plump body and round face, he could be both sweet and funny, inscrutable and explosive, whining and self-pitying, clammy and creepy and rough and unapproachable. Phillip's passing is not good for anything. It's just heartbreaking sad.

It felt natural for me to log in to xixax for the first time in 5 years, when I heard this news. I owe him a lot for my film passion.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: 03 on February 04, 2014, 05:36:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzY2pWrXB_0
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Kellen on February 04, 2014, 11:56:14 PM
Source: 4 arrested in connection with drugs in PSH apartment (http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/05/showbiz/philip-seymour-hoffman-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: max from fearless on February 05, 2014, 12:55:08 PM
Apologies if this has been posted on the site already, but I hadn't seen it on here and it's pretty incredible. Philip Seymour Hoffman talking philosophy with Simon Critchley. Topics include: the nature of happiness, how we deal with our pasts, Magnolia and The Master. There's a great story about PTA coming to visit him when he had just fallen in love with a girl and wrestling with him in a diner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiQkdprJso0
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Alexandro on February 06, 2014, 09:44:30 AM
yes.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: 03 on February 06, 2014, 04:25:05 PM
dont lie, how many people cried during that AMAZING video?
thank you, max, i'm not trying to be cheesy by saying this, but i think that actually gave me a sense of closure.
its funny when you grieve over someone you've never met. its almost like grieving over a fictional character, you know?
i know him best through his characters, and they've all come to an end when his pictures finish, and they come back alive when you begin the film again. and as immortal as that sounds, the true tragedy for me is the death of all of his characters including ones we've never seen. but that was just beautiful.

if this has been mentioned, i apologize, but this has got to be a question on everyones minds: is paul going to say anything about his death? or has he already? anyone? bueller?

all i could think of during that video was:

philp y u do dis
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Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Pozer on February 07, 2014, 07:57:30 PM

if this has been mentioned, i apologize, but this has got to be a question on everyones minds: is paul going to say anything about his death? or has he already? anyone? bueller?

Probably as close as we'll get hearing about him speaking publicly on it..

http://blog.sfgate.com/dailydish/2014/02/07/paul-thomas-anderson-delivers-touching-eulogy-at-philip-seymour-hoffman-funeral/ (http://blog.sfgate.com/dailydish/2014/02/07/paul-thomas-anderson-delivers-touching-eulogy-at-philip-seymour-hoffman-funeral/)
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: N on February 08, 2014, 02:42:17 AM
Maybe someone who was there will post some specifics of the eulogy.
It would be nice to hear what PTA had to say.

its funny when you grieve over someone you've never met. its almost like grieving over a fictional character, you know?
i know him best through his characters, and they've all come to an end when his pictures finish, and they come back alive when you begin the film again. and as immortal as that sounds, the true tragedy for me is the death of all of his characters including ones we've never seen. but that was just beautiful.

Agreed, that interview has some great insight into happiness and death and the movies PSH has been in.
It's surprisingly relevant to the recent events.
On the subject of grieving over someone you don't know, this is actually the first time one of my personal (living) heroes has died.
It doesn't seem real, I still find myself thinking about him and realizing he's gone. It comes as a shock every time for me.
I'll admit to legitimately crying myself to sleep the night I found out.

It'll take quite a while for me to get over this, a lot of people were really attached to him and his characters like you said.
I think it's especially tragic considering his talent. He found real, believable human beings in every character I've seen him play.

Best wishes to him for whatever comes after life, if anything.

Master would have told us to laugh.

/end of attempted meaningful post.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on February 08, 2014, 04:26:38 AM
I was rewatching The Master again last night and near te end, when he starts speaking about meeting again in another life, it just felt too much to bear.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: MacGuffin on February 08, 2014, 08:43:54 PM
Hunger Games’ to digitally recreate Hoffman

The filmmakers behind the “Hunger Games” movies will digitally recreate late actor Philip Seymour Hoffman in a major yet-to-be-shot scene, sources from the flick said.

Editors will use computer graphics and camera tricks — instead of rewriting the script — to film at least one heartfelt scene featuring Hoffman’s character, the gamesmaker Plutarch Heavensbee.

“You can do digital things, you can have conversations where you’re not focusing on him but the people he’s talking to,” an insider from the film company Lionsgate told Hollywood Reporter.

Hoffman had almost finished filming “The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2,” due in theaters in November 2015, before he died of a heroin overdose.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: N on February 08, 2014, 09:19:15 PM
Are those hunger games movies any good when you don't factor in psh?
They look really terrible from the trailers.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Myxo on February 09, 2014, 02:31:18 AM
Are those hunger games movies any good when you don't factor in psh?
They look really terrible from the trailers.

The first film was very "blah." I thoroughly enjoyed the second one on a date night with the wife. Hoffman's role, while important, is no Lancaster Dodd. He's an ancillary character.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on February 09, 2014, 04:46:11 AM
I only saw the first one and thought it was terrible. From what I've heard, Hoffman's character is supposed to gain some protagonism in the last two movies of the saga. I'm considering watching the second one and then the others when they come out, just so I can watch PSH again on the big screen.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: jenkins on February 21, 2014, 01:26:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/B6Cd5S5.png)

tbh they couldn't have gone wrong, you can't go wrong with psh

i'm especially delighted by the love liza choice. sure you're aware his brother wrote the script. i really liked the movie in general. for years after seeing it my friend and i would quote a scene where psh is in a river and a person tells him to get out of the river and he tells the person everything's ok he's just model airplaning. i botched the specifics of this joke, i can't find it online, and i don't own the movie, but maybe you also remember that scene
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: picolas on February 21, 2014, 01:54:01 PM
i would quote a scene where psh is in a river and a person tells him to get out of the river and he tells the person everything's ok he's just model airplaning. i botched the specifics of this joke, i can't find it online, and i don't own the movie, but maybe you also remember that scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hYIinpOVvY
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Cloudy on February 21, 2014, 05:13:16 PM
Castro Theatre SF, every Wednesday in March:
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Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: N on February 21, 2014, 05:23:50 PM
This makes me want to bury myself in debt and go to the US for a week.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: jenkins on February 21, 2014, 05:30:09 PM
pretty obvs there could be a san fran xixaxcon. what would everyone wear
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Pubrick on February 21, 2014, 07:08:20 PM
This makes me want to bury myself in debt and go to the US for a week.

That's dumb. Just watch them at home. There's nothing special about these particular screenings.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: N on February 21, 2014, 08:10:47 PM
Quote from: Pubrick
That's dumb. Just watch them at home. There's nothing special about these particular screenings.

Yeah, that was dumb.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Neil on February 22, 2014, 01:53:24 AM
N, you have a theatre in your house?

Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Reelist on February 22, 2014, 06:30:45 AM
with a 35mm projector?!?!
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Cloudy on February 22, 2014, 03:07:55 PM
Just a bummer Master's not in 70 this time =\
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: N on February 22, 2014, 03:45:52 PM
I've never seen a movie on real film.
Is it that different from digital theaters?
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Reelist on February 22, 2014, 04:24:00 PM
It's hard to describe, but there's more depth when you're watching projected film. Richer contrast, warmer color. Digital projection may be crystal clear but doesn't feel as alive. Theres gotta be a dozen conversations about this around here somewhere.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Brando on March 03, 2014, 02:05:33 AM
I'm just passing on a link.

http://vimeo.com/87873042
 (http://vimeo.com/87873042)

"A post-script journey through Philip Seymour Hoffman's lifetime in cinema.

200 hours of work went into breaking down 47 of Hoffman's films. Compiling his legacy has been one of the most challenging experiences I've ever faced as an editor, and yet indescribably rewarding. I can assure you that after 22 years on screen and nearly fifty films, we now look at the work of an actor who never had a single dishonest moment on camera. I know because I've seen them all. Please take a breather and raise your glasses to one of our greatest.

APPEARANCES
Joaquin Phoenix, Jude Law, Helen Hunt, Ben Stiller, Jeff Bridges, Robert De Niro, Ricky Gervais, Louis CK, Tom Hanks, Cathrine Keener, Sarah Jessica Parker, Ryan Gosling, Tom Cruise, Michelle Monaghan, Ethan Hawke, Adam Sandler (voice), Kathy Bates, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Laura Linney, Barry Pepper, Paul Newman, Marisa Tomei, Brad Pitt, Meryl Streep, Robin Williams, Philip Baker Hall, Julianne Moore, Clifton Collins Jr., Chris O'Donnel, Michell Williams, Samantha Morton, Emily Watson, Andy Garcia, Mark Wahlberg, John C. Reily, Bill Paxton

FEATURED WORKS
2012 A Late Quartet
2012 The Master
2011 Moneyball
2011 The Ides of March
2010 Jack Goes Boating
2009 The Invention of Lying
2009 Pirate Radio
2009 Mary and Max
2008 Doubt
2008 Synecdoche, New York
2007 Charlie Wilson's War
2007 Before the Devil Knows You're Dead
2007 The Savages
2006 Mission: Impossible III
2005 Capote
2005 Empire Falls (TV Movie)
2004 Along Came Polly
2003 Cold Mountain
2003 Mattress Man Commercial (Video short)
2003 Owning Mahowny
2002 25th Hour
2002 Punch-Drunk Love
2002 Love Liza
2000 Almost Famous
2000 State and Main
1999 The Talented Mr. Ripley
1999 Magnolia
1999 Flawless
1998 Patch Adams
1998 Happiness
1998 The Big Lebowski
1998 Next Stop Wonderland
1998 Montana
1997 Boogie Nights
1996 Twister
1996 Hard Eight
1994 Nobody's Fool
1994 When a Man Loves a Woman
1993 Money for Nothing
1993 My Boyfriend's Back
1992 Scent of a Woman
1992 Leap of Faith
1991 Law & Order"
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Cloudy on March 06, 2014, 01:58:05 PM
Is by chance anyone's name here Dennis? I met a really cool, rabid PTA fan at The Master screening who could have been a Xixaxer.
12+ viewing in theaters(lost count), one of the best yet...
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Frederico Fellini on March 07, 2014, 11:28:37 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjlyYnJvPC8


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Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: MOGWAI on March 08, 2014, 02:24:48 AM
^

That clip is heartwarming and also the best parts of the documentary on Magnolia. But there's something PTA says when he spits out the mouthwash, he says "Sorry Frank". Is "Frank" Tom Cruise who sits in the background in a sort of comatose state?
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Pubrick on March 09, 2014, 11:40:14 AM
Is "Frank" Tom Cruise who sits in the background in a sort of comatose state?

Frank is referring to Frank TJ Makckey, who as you know is Tom Cruise's character. Not sure what comatose state you had in mind, but the scene PTA and PSH are working on in this clip is towards the end of the movie when Frank has arrived at the residence of Earl Partridge and goes to sit by his bedside and call him a piece of shit etc.

during this extremely emotional scene between father and estranged son, Phil Parma stands in the background at a distance and out of focus. PTA is making fun of PSH by suggesting he will overact this moment where he really should be doing as little as possible, as the point of the scene will be taking place in the foreground. in other words PSH will be "hamming" it up, and delivering a "cheesy" performance, hence PTA's hilarious encapsulation of PSH's approach as "a study in ham and cheese". it's funny because PSH is obviously a great actor and he would have to be a complete amateur to actually do all that.

the other funny part is that obviously PTA and PSH have a lot of private jokes, being old friends. and we're made privy to one such running gag when PTA suggests that PSH will perhaps take a pen to his mouth and click it against his teeth as part of his background action. the reference here is that this is something PSH actually did as Scotty J in Boogie Nights, you can see the clipboard and pen here where he leads Dirk to the set:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h9n5yGj0JQ

in that scene Scotty keeps putting the pen in his mouth, of course there is a rather obvious sexual connotation to it as he is at the same time drooling over Dirk, the pen becomes a phallic object. so it is a bit "cheesy" in how not-subtle it is. this is why PSH in the magnolia doco says "three years later and we're still talking about it", i guess he came up with that part on his own. it's kind of brilliant really, i don't think it's any more cheesy than using the song You Sexy Thing to play during the first time Scotty sees Dirk at the pool party, in a POV shot no less.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Pozer on March 09, 2014, 08:52:43 PM
Is "Frank" Tom Cruise who sits in the background in a sort of comatose state?

Frank is referring to Frank TJ Makckey, who as you know is Tom Cruise's character. Not sure what comatose state you had in mind, but the scene PTA and PSH are working on in this clip is towards the end of the movie when Frank has arrived at the residence of Earl Partridge and goes to sit by his bedside and call him a piece of shit etc.

during this extremely emotional scene between father and estranged son, Phil Parma stands in the background at a distance and out of focus. PTA is making fun of PSH by suggesting he will overact this moment where he really should be doing as little as possible, as the point of the scene will be taking place in the foreground. in other words PSH will be "hamming" it up, and delivering a "cheesy" performance, hence PTA's hilarious encapsulation of PSH's approach as "a study in ham and cheese". it's funny because PSH is obviously a great actor and he would have to be a complete amateur to actually do all that.

the other funny part is that obviously PTA and PSH have a lot of private jokes, being old friends. and we're made privy to one such running gag when PTA suggests that PSH will perhaps take a pen to his mouth and click it against his teeth as part of his background action. the reference here is that this is something PSH actually did as Scotty J in Boogie Nights, you can see the clipboard and pen here where he leads Dirk to the set:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h9n5yGj0JQ

in that scene Scotty keeps putting the pen in his mouth, of course there is a rather obvious sexual connotation to it as he is at the same time drooling over Dirk, the pen becomes a phallic object. so it is a bit "cheesy" in how not-subtle it is. this is why PSH in the magnolia doco says "three years later and we're still talking about it", i guess he came up with that part on his own. it's kind of brilliant really, i don't think it's any more cheesy than using the song You Sexy Thing to play during the first time Scotty sees Dirk at the pool party, in a POV shot no less.

I think Christian might be talking about the guy on the couch in the background of that clip. Highly doubt that's Cruise as he was anti-That Moment.

EDIT: quoted P's significant insight as more accessible top-o-the page cache for when said recoverer comes probing.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Pubrick on March 09, 2014, 11:34:43 PM
Oh. Well I still enjoyed writing that long post that is now buried forever at the bottom of the previous page.

My only hope it's that there will be a rogue future internet archeologist who, after going through ono's complete posting history, then looking at the shoutbox gold thread, takes a special interest in our reaction to the death of PSH. There he will discover my comprehensive breakdow of that particular moment in That Moment, and realise it is a key artefact the prestigious National Museum of PTA Minutia has been looking for.

He will sell it to them for tree fiddy in doge coin, a world record for an internet post, all of which he will donate to the research branch of the PTA University That You Don't Have To Go To, whose two major projects at that time will be: is Pearl a night of the hunter reference; and just how high was Luis Guzman in that one scene.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: MacGuffin on June 04, 2014, 10:22:10 PM
Philip Seymour Hoffman returns in aching animated short
Source: EW

We’ve all been there. Someone passes away, and later you find an audio tape with their voice on it, or spot them in the background of a home video. For a moment, they’re with you again.

Fans of the late Philip Seymour Hoffman will always have his movies — but now a two-year old interview with the actor, who died in February at age 46, has gotten new life as an animated short.

The five-and-a-half minute video is part of the Blank On Blank series produced in collaboration with PBS Digital Studios. The brainchild of producer David Gerlach and animator Patrick Smith, the program uses old audio recordings from journalists as fodder for a surreal, sometimes silly, but often poignant animated story.

Hoffman’s Q&A was conducted at the Rubin Museum of Art on Dec. 22, 2012 with moderator Simon Critchley. The topic: Happiness. By now we all know about Hoffman’s struggle with drug addiction, a battle that ultimately cost him his life. So some of what he says in the video has an eerie, unsettling prescience.

“I think I kill pleasure. Like, I take too much of it in, and therefore make it un-pleasurable — like too much coffee, and you’re miserable,” the actor says. “I do that to pleasure often. So I don’t … There is no pleasure that I haven’t actually made myself sick on.”

There’s no doubt he was talking about more than coffee. Hoffman was fairly open about his substance abuse struggle, and had remained clean for many years before relapsing.

What this video reveals is a man fully aware of his excesses and darker impulses, and both the yearning and the loss of control that made them dangerous. If anything, it only makes his loss more tragic. But there is a bittersweet quality to the video, too. Despite whatever pain Hoffman fought, there was a joy to the man — an equally strong yearning to reach beyond his own shadows.

It’s hard not to smile when the animated Hoffman becomes a child, standing alongside the cartoon representations of his own children. I’ve written about his relationship with fatherhood before, and this interview showcases similar sentiments the actor had about his family. We’re never one thing. Happy, sad … we’re usually both at the same time. It’s just a question of which side is winning the tug ‘o war.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osn8rjkPyYM
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Alexandro on January 18, 2015, 06:00:17 PM
I took time this week to catch up with some of Hoffman's last performances. I watched God's Pocket and A Most Wanted Man, they were both very underwhelming, but he's good in them. yet it was sad 'cause both film have a lot of potential, but they're just weirdly off.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on January 28, 2015, 01:03:13 AM
The Dissolve has an extensive career retrospective out on PSH. It manages to highlight at least 50 of the things that made him so fucking great. I can't believe its been a year, its still really hard for me to think about.

http://thedissolve.com/features/career-view/890-the-epic-uncool-of-philip-seymour-hoffman/ (http://thedissolve.com/features/career-view/890-the-epic-uncool-of-philip-seymour-hoffman/)
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: Something Spanish on January 31, 2015, 10:15:34 AM
Saw BN on 35mm for the first time last week, after having not watched it in about 5-6 years. Got major chills when PSH arrives on the big screen. Didn't help that the first shot of Hoffman is Scotty J holding the gate open, stepping aside and watching the bloody OD'd chick being carted away.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: OpO1832 on May 14, 2015, 12:44:06 PM
I had the pleasure of running into Philip Seymour Hoffman 2x in NYC. The first time was when I went to see Jesus Hopped the A Train which he directed, my seat was in the back literally right next to him and his table from which he was taking notes. The second time which was a bummer but I will tell this story: I went to go see Othello with him and his friend, the actor ( the kid who gets his throat cut in Carlitos Way) it was an awesome modernization of Othello, the bed was a a series of TVs and Philip could project his voice in a way that few stage actors can. Here is the last memory I have. I was exiting the Skirball theater which is by Washington Square Park, I think its apart of NYU, thats not important, so I am exiting on the side and I walk past this glass door, and inside this glass door connected to the theater is Philip in costume and the actor from Carlitos Way( both Philip and this actor are the head honchos at the LAB Theater company in NYC, which in my opinion is the COOLEST theater company, the writer Stephen Adley Gurgis  is the fucking man and he writes for this company, anyway) are blowing smoke out from their cigs, and they I could hear them assessing their performances, I caught this and I had the playbill in my hand! I went to the deli on the corner to grab a fucking pen! and by the time I got back to have those hombres sign my bill, they were gone, the memory lives on !

I miss Philip Seymour Hoffman and watching him on stage here in NYC! He was a god amongst actors, and is a theater legend in my book! Few actors can flow from film to stage like Phil did. Movie actors can't do theatre but theatre actors can do movies!
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: pete on May 24, 2015, 08:13:53 PM
dude, I don't know who you are but I just blind purchased two tickets to whatever is playing at Lab right now. thank you.
Title: Re: RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman
Post by: OpO1832 on May 30, 2015, 11:53:14 AM
Philip's wife has a play in production that is full swing at the moment, so that could be interesting its called something girl. LAB is always fun to go to!

The Barn series is fun too, this is when LAB is testing out a new play, think of a soft opening type thing. LAB does these Barn series every so often. Check them out, the tickets are cheap and the plays and actors are so captiviating