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This Year In Film / Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Last post by BB on March 14, 2019, 11:39:11 AM »
Damn. There is nothing to expect from this movie but them reversing the twist of the previous movie.

Isn't this what 90% of comic books are like though? The whole thing is plot twists, battles, and character recognition. That's all the vast majority of the audience is looking for. And once the character recognition wears off, these movies will be jettisoned into the dustbin of history like adventure serials from the 30s and 40s. I mean, beyond a handful of weirdos, who's watching Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers or Zorro movies today? Not even hardcore cinephiles.

The Dark Knight still has us all granting comic book movies greater critical attention than they warrant, like the first fine dining restaurant to put a hamburger on the menu. A few others have been similarly elevated and that's cool but it's not really what this is about. It's cinematic McDonalds. The fries are either hot or cold.

Not that I have anything against these movies, but I am curious to see if a younger generation is gonna come along and rebel against them. Or that just a thing that happened in the twentieth century?
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This Year In Film / Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Last post by Drenk on March 14, 2019, 10:03:23 AM »
I think the only Marvel movie I've seen to date is the first Iron Man. Generally just not drawn to this type of thing, nothing against it. I'm sure I'd probably enjoy a few of them if steered correctly. But it's so oversaturated now I have absolutely no idea where to start and what to skip. It's daunting.

The first Iron Man movie is still a movie where Iron Man is a character. The second one is a mess that introduces Avengers, really weird. The third Iron Man is legitimately a movie I love, written and directed by Shane Black. There are some movies I like.

But the last years showed an increase in laziness—some awful green screens, battle scenes looking mostly the same from one movie to another, all that making me want to create the Second-Unit theory—and made evident that all the years created a monstruous void at the center of these movies: it's been about deceiving while promising something better, over and over again. And now that it's ending...

Damn. There is nothing to expect from this movie but them reversing the twist of the previous movie. I get why they're only selling you the investment in time people & I gave to these movies? It looks like a fanmade trailer with footage from the previous movies, you know.
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This Year In Film / Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Last post by eward on March 14, 2019, 09:56:24 AM »
I think the only Marvel movie I've seen to date is the first Iron Man. Generally just not drawn to this type of thing, nothing against it. I'm sure I'd probably enjoy a few of them if steered correctly. But it's so oversaturated now I have absolutely no idea where to start and what to skip. It's daunting.
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This Year In Film / Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Last post by Drenk on March 14, 2019, 09:37:51 AM »
I have seen enough overlong Marvel movies where nothing substantial happens to suspect that this one will be pretty vapid. And since when have they been scared to show most of their movies in trailers?

I am aware that they might just be hiding everything, so worried about spoilers or whatever (plots and characters's development have now been replaced by twists and characters deaths), and that rebuttal is already included in the sentence I posted.

Infinity War was ultimately more fun than most recent Marvel movies because it contained isolated segments with real scenes in it, and then it became a boring "been there done that" battle. And now a three hours long movie is supposed to give some weight to the fake twist the movie ends with and then—ironically—disappear.

Having a universe and multiple movies were supposed to flesh out characters but what I conclude is that they're emptier than what they used to be pre-MCU.
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This Year In Film / Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Last post by Robyn on March 14, 2019, 09:27:27 AM »
What? Are you really complaining that the trailer aren't showing enough? The film will be 3 hours long. I'm sure there's more to it then that.

First one I'm kind of looking forward to. The last one was the best one yet.
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This Year In Film / Avengers: Endgame
« Last post by Drenk on March 14, 2019, 08:47:37 AM »


The Avengers somehow find an end to their journey, probably by fighting Some Entity in a climatic battle.

Directors: Joe Russo, Anthony Russo


What the hell? Is this trailer purposefully showing nothing or will this be two hours of moody Avengers in headquarters before they have to fight? How do you end up for your big finale with so little dramatic tension for the characters—except, you know, saving the world. They're trying to make us feel for Tony Star's couple at the beginning, but this has been a non-reality since Iron Man 3 seven years ago.

Will Tony Star die? Will Captain America? I don't even call that plot.

I'm creating this thread because after this one I'm done. I enjoyed Spider-Man: Homecoming, but the trailer for the second movie makes it look like a Disney Channel sequel with a lot of expensive CGI.
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This Year In Film / Re: Leaving Neverland
« Last post by Drenk on March 13, 2019, 05:18:23 PM »
Drenk, I hate you for making me watch Piers Morgan. I could only make it halfway through. No surprise he proves himself yet again to be a slimy ball of cancerous waste. I doubt he watched the doc, because of course all his "questions" are answered there.

The other anchor, too, asks why the victims supported MJ years afterwards. Even Oprah asked that question (rhetorically, I assume). It's making me crazy. How can anyone watch this documentary and still have that question? It's answered so clearly and thoroughly. All they can do in interviews is literally repeat what's already in the doc. I feel like I'm either being gaslighted, or I'm watching people who are experiencing extensive memory loss.

I guess that even if they've watched it they need to ask the question because people are really angry and confused at the fact that Wade testified for Jackson in 2005. And they're really buying the "well, therefore they only want money". Giving the answer in the question in any form makes you "complicit" to this "one sided" documentary.

I'm listening to the confused, angry, relatively sane people talking about it; they seem to want to stay willingly in the dark or getting half facts. It's very frustrating...

Middle aged men saying they only wanted info on Jackson and got bored when it focused on the men and their families...
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2018 In Film / Re: Widows
« Last post by Something Spanish on March 13, 2019, 01:36:16 PM »
count me as a big fan of this one, still, the genre cliche's did detract some from all that unexpected originality...like the scene where Michelle Rodriguez has that intimate encounter with a fellow widower. if only they subverted the rote heist elements further could have been in a whole other league.


Spoiler: ShowHide
funny coincidence - randomly watched Gone Girl right before starting this one having no idea Flynn cowrote the script, and right after the end scene was like, wow, how complementary, back to back films where spouses are out to kill each other. Then when the credits began and I saw Flynn's name, was like, fuck, what synchronicity, whoa.
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News and Theory / Re: 2018 Xixax Awards - Nominate!
« Last post by eward on March 13, 2019, 06:21:28 AM »

Most Disappointing Film - The Incredables 2, The Old Man and the Gun


Bold.
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This Year In Film / Re: Leaving Neverland
« Last post by Drenk on March 13, 2019, 06:01:27 AM »
I'm still trying to figure out everything that's packed in it, but the moment that "changed" something in me was when we saw Michael Jackson on tour with James, I think, leaving hotels with him as if he were his date, and then similar footage of him with different kinds. I became shocked at the fact that he managed to do that in plain sight. I had seen footage of Neverland and heard that he slept with boys, refusing to believe. It's not that I didn't want to believe or it's not only that: I mostly didn't really want to hear anything, deciding to stay blind without really thinking about it and although I had already seen a lot. That man really did groom the world...

That second of "oh my god..." is powerful.