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Title: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Duck Sauce on January 11, 2003, 05:54:58 PM
Just wanted to be the one who started it. Begin discussion.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: life_boy on January 11, 2003, 06:31:31 PM
Discussion.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Newtron on January 11, 2003, 08:01:46 PM
End discussion.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 12, 2003, 07:49:12 PM
Here's the b-sides & music videos link that I posted a while ago:
(if anyone has a better one, please please post it)

http://www.dallasmavs.net/rhead/
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: neatahwanta on January 12, 2003, 07:53:43 PM
Radiohead
rated
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Newtron on January 13, 2003, 12:08:23 AM
Quote from: neatahwanta
Radiohead
rated


you (touch)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: GodDamnImDaMan on January 13, 2003, 12:31:54 AM
I just want to add this...

In the "You aint ever met a mother fucker quite like me" Kid Rock video, he wipes his ass with Toilet paper that read's "RADIOHEAD."

hehe :twisted:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: life_boy on January 13, 2003, 02:01:50 AM
'God Damn' should be proud.  I just about creamed my pants when I saw that B-sides site.  I've searched the internet time and again looking for something like that (although I haven't looked recently).  And I've never found it...until now.  Thanks Jeremy!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: GodDamnImDaMan on January 13, 2003, 11:59:13 AM
oh ya! knowing other's cream their pants gets me off!!!!!!! :shock:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: bluejaytwist on January 14, 2003, 02:12:12 AM
Quote from: God Damn I Am Da Man
I just want to add this...

In the "You aint ever met a mother fucker quite like me" Kid Rock video, he wipes his ass with Toilet paper that read's "RADIOHEAD."

hehe :twisted:



good one. coz kid rocks word is gospel.
lets all see whom we remember in 25 yrs.
talent or gimmick?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: GodDamnImDaMan on January 14, 2003, 03:04:28 AM
And what exactly is Kid Rock's gimmick?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Newtron on January 14, 2003, 07:30:48 AM
Quote from: God Damn I Am Da Man
And what exactly is Kid Rock's gimmick?


That he's a joke who doesn't get himself.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: GodDamnImDaMan on January 14, 2003, 05:34:20 PM
Quote from: Newtron
Quote from: God Damn I Am Da Man
And what exactly is Kid Rock's gimmick?


That he's a joke who doesn't get himself.


That doesnt make sense... He's a joke who doesnt get himself?!?! Think before u type next time ::smacks u on the cheek::
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: neatahwanta on January 14, 2003, 06:09:17 PM
Kid Rock was dead on.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: BonBon85 on January 17, 2003, 09:50:49 PM
You have to admit Radiohead was pretty cool before they became uber-pretentious. I'll listen to their stuff up until Kid A.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: bluejaytwist on January 17, 2003, 10:06:47 PM
Quote from: BonBon85
You have to admit Radiohead was pretty cool before they became uber-pretentious. I'll listen to their stuff up until Kid A.


kid a/amnesiac/radiohead is much like tool in the sense that you wont like it until you are in a time in your life where it all starts to make sense...one day youll hear a track from it, and go back to the album and youll fall in love. i see you shaking your head now, but please re-read the first sentence again....
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: phil marlowe on January 19, 2003, 08:08:08 AM
:morning: (just to post something)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Newtron on January 21, 2003, 12:11:00 AM
Quote from: bluejaytwist
kid a/amnesiac/radiohead is much like tool in the sense that you wont like it until you are in a time in your life where it all starts to make sense...one day youll hear a track from it, and go back to the album and youll fall in love. i see you shaking your head now, but please re-read the first sentence again....


You're only helping her cos you think '85 is her birth year. In which case, it's true and good, she may remember this post.
But in my experience, they'll only care less... or too late.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on January 21, 2003, 11:55:08 AM
Quote from: BonBon85
You have to admit Radiohead was pretty cool before they became uber-pretentious. I'll listen to their stuff up until Kid A.


I think your confusing pretense with innovation.

I can see how people who prefer a certain kind of music wouldn't like Kid A, but it's really one of the most brilliant albums in existense.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 21, 2003, 02:19:13 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
I think your confusing pretense with innovation.


Exactly. I think pretense is doing the same thing that has been done before and assuming people will think you're God.

Kid A and Amnesiac are brilliant, and I like where Radiohead is going. Well at least no one is saying they're "selling out" ...  :roll:  ....
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Duck Sauce on January 21, 2003, 02:31:41 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman

Kid A and Amnesiac are brilliant, and I like where Radiohead is going. Well at least no one is saying they're "selling out" ...  :roll:  ....

Somebody go get Bill Maplewood  :wink:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: BonBon85 on January 22, 2003, 02:28:22 PM
I knew I'd get yelled at for this. I suppose it's because listening to music is such a subjective experience. I don't hate all of Kid A. I think "Everything's in its Right Place" is a great song. But when I listen to a song like "Treefingers" I have to laugh that somebody probably considers it the most deep, meaningful, life altering song ever. I just think that Radiohead got to the point where they could have released a song of Thom Yorke clearing his throat and it would have been hailed as genius. I could go so far as to say that they weren't innovative as much as they were combining things The Velvet Underground and Pink Floyd had already done with the techno sound that was big at the time, but I think I'd be pelted with tomatoes. Maybe I sound immature/ignorant, but who knows, maybe you'll change your mind in a few years too.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on January 22, 2003, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: BonBon85
I could go so far as to say that they weren't innovative as much as they were combining things The Velvet Underground and Pink Floyd had already done with the techno sound that was big at the time, but I think I'd be pelted with tomatoes


PELT!

They were doing things the velvet underground and Pink Floyd did... and that was "being innovative".
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 22, 2003, 04:02:43 PM
Quote from: BonBon85
I could go so far as to say that they weren't innovative as much as they were combining things The Velvet Underground and Pink Floyd had already done


I'm sick of hearing that OK Computer is a Pink Floyd ripoff. Why does everyone say that? I don't even think Pink Floyd is that great, except for one or two songs. They were experimental though... so then Radiohead is unoriginal for being experimental?  :roll:  (that's for you RK, since I know you're above smileys)

Quote from: BonBon85
I just think that Radiohead got to the point where they could have released a song of Thom Yorke clearing his throat and it would have been hailed as genius.


I would actually probably really really like that...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: BonBon85 on January 22, 2003, 04:54:31 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
I'm sick of hearing that OK Computer is a Pink Floyd ripoff. Why does everyone say that? I don't even think Pink Floyd is that great, except for one or two songs. They were experimental though... so then Radiohead is unoriginal for being experimental?  :roll:  


Actually OK Computer is one of my favorite albums and I never really liked Pink Floyd either. I wasn't saying that experimenting is bad but that experimenting in a manner that is just like another artist isn't innovative.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on January 22, 2003, 06:05:22 PM
Quote from: BonBon85
I wasn't saying that experimenting is bad but that experimenting in a manner that is just like another artist isn't innovative.


if you're experimenting like someone else has already done, it's not really experimenting.  

How do you think that they're experimenting like Pink Floyd?  Because they're breaking bariers?  Changing the way instruments are used?  Using new techniques and equipment?  Using accelerated technology to come up with things that have never been done before?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Duck Sauce on January 22, 2003, 06:39:24 PM
Bon Bon, so wise for such a young age?  8)  

Off what we were saying, whens the new album come out?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on January 22, 2003, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: Duck Sauce
Off what we were saying, whens the new album come out?


Apparently near the end of March.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Victor on January 22, 2003, 08:17:47 PM
I dont think its pretention, I think theyve always been a progressive band and theyre just trying to push themselves and their music to the next level. My favorite Radiohead of this moment is a cross between The Bends-style and Kid A-style, for me making OK Computer their best album and The National Anthem my favorite song.

Off topic - has anyone else noticed the similarity between 'treefingers' and the closing score of 'traffic'? And 'Motion Picture Soundtrack' reminds me a lot of the score and mood of Punch-Drunk Love.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on January 22, 2003, 09:02:17 PM
Quote from: Lester
Off topic - has anyone else noticed the similarity between 'treefingers' and the closing score of 'traffic'?[/quote[

I've heard them both and don't see too much of a similarity. The "traffic" song is much better though. Always get to me.

Quote
And 'Motion Picture Soundtrack' reminds me a lot of the score and mood of Punch-Drunk Love.


Again, it doesn't really remind me of the PDL mood or score. That song is very depressing, at least to me.
Motion Picture Soundtrack =  :cry:
PDL =  :kiss:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Victor on January 22, 2003, 11:03:29 PM
Quote from: Dirk


Again, it doesn't really remind me of the PDL mood or score. That song is very depressing, at least to me.
Motion Picture Soundtrack =  :cry:
PDL =  :kiss:


i think its a totally depressing song. pdl can definitely be a fun movie, but it has many colors. ive seen the movie and read the script a bunch of times, and it seems the better i get to know barry, the more human he becomes. and when i see that and can relate to it, the story becomes so much more than it was the first few times. i think barry is much much darker than he lets on, he's a very depressing character, theres so much going on in his head thats only being hinted at. And this song just reminds me of it whenever I hear it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: moonshiner on February 15, 2003, 11:44:13 PM
Kid A/Amnesiac is like Pink Floyd because you have to be in a certain state of mind to enjoy it, these aren't cds you can just put in your cd player....the lyrics are very simple, very pretentious, but i don't think the lyrics were the point, the "experimental" music is the point. That brings us to the ultimate struggle...if you continuously use the same formula you are criticized as being uncreative, if you completely change gears and do something different, you're being pretentious and too experimental...bottom line, Radiohead are artists[/quote]
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on February 16, 2003, 09:11:30 AM
Latest news concerning their new album: Tentative release date of sometime in June and titled "2 + 2 = 5" or "Are You Listening?"
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on February 16, 2003, 03:52:07 PM
2 + 2 = 5

and the Orwell 1984 similiarities continue....
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Film Student on February 17, 2003, 01:53:45 AM
Quote from: bluejaytwist

kid a/amnesiac/radiohead is much like tool in the sense that you wont like it until you are in a time in your life where it all starts to make sense.


Wow, I think I just creamed my pants for bluejaytwist.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on March 09, 2003, 09:40:44 AM
I find Kid A and Amnesiac to be my favorite of their material
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: xerxes on March 09, 2003, 01:00:07 PM
the bends is my favorite
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: moonshiner on March 11, 2003, 12:53:18 PM
the bends is still my favorite....but about ten years down the road their catalog will be such that we'll all have to say that we don't have a favorite...and we'll all sound like beatles' snobs
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: scr33nwritr on March 11, 2003, 01:47:41 PM
Amnesiac for me is one of those defining albums. It has such an Etheral feel too it which takes me into myself when I listen to it. Then again I have been a very big fan of Ambient for quite sometime and it definitely puts off that vibe.


Kid Rock is a poor excuse of an "Artist"
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on March 12, 2003, 10:57:35 AM
Excellent point
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 13, 2003, 07:18:40 PM
Quote from: scr33nwritr
Amnesiac for me is one of those defining albums. It has such an Etheral feel too it which takes me into myself when I listen to it. Then again I have been a very big fan of Ambient for quite sometime and it definitely puts off that vibe.


I'm loving Amnesiac more and more every time I hear it, but I think OK Computer is still my favorite.

Remember when we did this favorite songs from each album thing? Let's do it again:

Amnesiac: Life in a Glass House / I Might Be Wrong

Kid A: Idioteque

OK Computer: Karma Police

The Bends: Planet Telex

Pablo Honey: Creep

b-sides: Polyethylene
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: xerxes on March 13, 2003, 07:30:03 PM
amnesiac: like spinning plates
kid a: how to disappear completely/ idioteque
ok computer: subterranean homesick alien/ exit music
the bends: fake plastic trees
pablo honey: thinking about you
b-sides: a reminder
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on March 13, 2003, 09:58:53 PM
amnesiac: You And Whose Army?
kid a: Idioteque
ok computer: Lucky
the bends:  Fake Plastic Trees
pablo honey: Creep
b-sides: FOG(studio version)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on March 13, 2003, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: God Damn Im Da Man
I just want to add this...

In the "You aint ever met a mother fucker quite like me" Kid Rock video, he wipes his ass with Toilet paper that read's "RADIOHEAD."

hehe :twisted:


i wish i could buy some of that toilet paper
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: jtm on March 14, 2003, 12:13:18 AM
Just came across this on MCA records website.  I'm lookin forward to it.


Sigur Ros and Radiohead
by MCA Records
From the LA Times: Radiohead and Sigur Ros are planning to merge their ambitious musical aesthetics to collaborate on a score for a new piece by the Merce Cunningham Dance Company scheduled to premiere in October at the Brooklyn Academy of Music. Meanwhile, a DVD of videos done for Sigur Ros' music, including the short film "Untitled #1," directed by Floria Sigismondi and premiered at the recent Sundance Film Festival, will be released in the spring...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on March 22, 2003, 07:52:45 AM
The tracklisting for the new album will be revealed on Monday and apparently, an early promo with 4 tracks has leaked and is spreading like wild fire (I think I may have found one of the tracks on Kazaa).

EDIT - ok, maybe not wild fire.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 22, 2003, 11:34:38 AM
Anybody who has heard some of the tracks, does it sound similar to another RH album or is it a totally new and different feel?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on March 22, 2003, 11:39:17 AM
Quote from: Duck Sauce
Anybody who has heard some of the tracks, does it sound similar to another RH album or is it a totally new and different feel?


I've heard about 8 tracks, but they were live. They sound all over the place. Some resemble tracks from Kid A/Amnesiac and others sound more like stuff from the Bends. I seem to recall a member of Radiohead saying it resembled the Bends the most.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on March 22, 2003, 12:06:23 PM
Quote from: Duck Sauce
Anybody who has heard some of the tracks, does it sound similar to another RH album or is it a totally new and different feel?

it feeeeeeels like,, it's hard to GT-ize it,. _|_ . feels like the future is as close as the past. in a beautiful place where time and space end. then,. its.. up to u how u feel about that.

i've been singin/humming/tapping/breakdancing There There all day.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on March 22, 2003, 08:46:05 PM
Sources are saying that the album will be called "Hail to the Thief"
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on March 24, 2003, 05:33:51 PM
Official news:

Radiohead will release their sixth album 'Hail To The Thief' on
Parlophone on June 9.

This will be preceded by the single 'There There' on May 26.

'Hail To The Thief' features 14 tracks and was recorded in Oxfordshire
and Los Angeles. It was produced by Nigel Godrich and Radiohead, and
mixed by Nigel Godrich.


The track listing is:

2 + 2 = 5
Sit Down. Stand Up.
Sail To The Moon.
Backdrifts.
Go To Sleep.
Where I End And You Begin.
We Suck Young Blood.
The Gloaming.
There There.
I Will.
A Punch-Up at a Wedding.
Myxamatosis.
Scatterbrain.
A Wolf At The Door.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on March 25, 2003, 04:22:24 AM
i was really hoping I Froze Up and Lift would make the cut.

Radiohead temporarily become animated, and discuss their new album
(http://www.be-sharps.de/gfx/group00.jpg)

Skinner: Only one question remains, gentlemen...what do we call it?

Nigel: How about,
"Handsome Homer Simpson Plus Two Plus Two Equals Five"?

Pubrick: I like it!

Thom: Wait, I do not.

Skinner: Er, um, we need a name that's witty at first, but seems less funny each time you hear it.

Thom: How about,
"Hail to the Thief"?

[Everyone laughs loud at first, then less, then stop completely]
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on March 25, 2003, 11:51:52 AM
Since when were their album titles really that great in the first place
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sigur Rós on March 25, 2003, 12:41:12 PM
Quote from: mogwai
Good quest, what is a "Pablo Honey"?


Pablo Honey got its name as  reference to something from the Jerky Boys skit. Part of the skit is sampled right at the
end of "How Do You?" ("Hello? Pablo?" "Yeah?" "Pablo?" etc...)

...I actually don't know what the word means :?:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 25, 2003, 01:35:10 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth
Since when were their album titles really that great in the first place


I like OK Computer and KID A
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on March 25, 2003, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: Sigur Rós
Quote from: mogwai
Good quest, what is a "Pablo Honey"?


Pablo Honey got its name as  reference to something from the Jerky Boys skit. Part of the skit is sampled right at the
end of "How Do You?" ("Hello? Pablo?" "Yeah?" "Pablo?" etc...)

...I actually don't know what the word means :?:


it's a name
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: russiasusha on March 30, 2003, 02:46:29 AM
This is kind of old news and probably somewhere else on the board, but oh well.

The site says nothing about it being official or not, so use it as you please.

From greenplastic.com (http://www.greenplastic.com/news/archives/00000390.html)

Make a RH video!
Another Radiohead announcement:
We've got a plan.
We need your help.

We're looking for moving pictures.
Can you make moving pictures?

Time is short.
This is what you have to do.

1. Take one of the live MP3's of a Radiohead track.
2. Make some moving pictures to it (can be anything: live action, animation, graphics etc).
3. Make it at least 10 seconds and at most a song's length (although we prefer shorter).

OR... Have you already made a short film that would benefit from an airing?


Send your work to Radiohead at:

The Picture Gallery
w.a.s.te
PO box 322
Oxford
UK

by Monday 8th May 2003

Formats Required:
For short films / whole songs : VHS (PAL) (You will be contacted if we require higher quality masters)
For shorter animations, graphics: Quicktime (720 x 576 pixels) CODEC: Motion JPEG B (High Quality)

Please enclose with it your name and e-mail address/telephone number.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Ghostboy on March 30, 2003, 02:51:53 AM
Man, I wish they'd take DVD-Rs. It's so tough to get PAL VHS dubs...at least cheap ones. I'd be all over this otherwise. What an awesome opportunity.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sphinx on March 31, 2003, 12:09:04 AM
sent
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 31, 2003, 10:04:34 AM
Quote from: mogwai
Quote from: sphinx
sent

Dang, I hope it's not the A Brief History of Time video.



That thing was amazing, do you have any other shorts I could look at?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 31, 2003, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: sphinx
sent


(http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/armed/boxing_smiley.gif)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sphinx on March 31, 2003, 05:34:38 PM
some caps from the video i sent in...it was filmed in DV

(http://ambulance.planet1337.com/pyra1.jpg)

(http://ambulance.planet1337.com/pyra2.jpg)

(http://ambulance.planet1337.com/pyra3.jpg)

(http://ambulance.planet1337.com/pyra4.jpg)

(http://ambulance.planet1337.com/pyra5.jpg)

(http://ambulance.planet1337.com/pyra6.jpg)

(http://ambulance.planet1337.com/pyra7.jpg)

(http://ambulance.planet1337.com/pyra8.jpg)

i animated BHOT in a mad fury when i had the flu, it seems i animate best when i'm sick.  i did get halfway through my second animated short, but i just haven't had time to finish it.  it's really tough
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: BonBon85 on March 31, 2003, 08:59:27 PM
Looks great Sphinx! I'd love to see the vid... post it if you get a chance!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Duck Sauce on April 01, 2003, 12:25:38 AM
Looks a tad Punch Drunk Lovey Sphinx,


nice
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on April 17, 2003, 11:05:00 AM
rumored cover for There There..

(http://www.greenplastic.com/news/archives/therethere.jpg)

i say v cool. vee.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on April 17, 2003, 08:07:09 PM
yeah
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on April 18, 2003, 06:55:27 AM
Cover for the new album: (http://www.adriaanpels.com/ateasehttt.jpg)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Victor on April 18, 2003, 02:54:05 PM
its fuckin terrific.

tv is slightly larger than god.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 20, 2003, 10:15:01 PM
yeah, Stanley and Tchocky never seem to disappoint with the artwork. the amnesiac book is great. there's going to be a special addition with HTTT as well. i was thinking the artwork would be happy since the recording sessions went so well, but i guess that's pretty happy compared to the kid a and amnesiac artwork. can't wait for the special edition.

does anyone have MPIE on DVD? i believe there's no extras, right? i wondered if it was in 5.1, widescreen? that film needs a special edition with some of the live cut footage like with the wilco dvd (i've yet to get that either).
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 20, 2003, 10:31:13 PM
looking through the thread.........is there still a site with b-sides up?


i'm really just wanting good quality versions of cuttouth, amazing sounds of orgy, how i made my millions(although i think it's not too great to begin with since thom recorded it with a minidisc).

at one time i wanted to try and get all the fans together and make a disc compilation of all the b-sides burned from actually copies owned by fans. there were tons of bends b-sides.....i guess most of the okc b-sides ended up on the Airbag EP.

i have the college ep and one of the 2 singles for knives out and street spirit....i really don't want to put songs that are on the My Iron Lung EP since that is readily available. i have the Airbag EP, but i think that has been out of print for a while.

but if anyone wants to try, i guess i can put up a site on geocities. i tried to before and no one really wanted to.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Duck Sauce on April 20, 2003, 10:35:42 PM
I like it, but not enough for a album cover, something about the colors arent doing it for me. I still think its cool though.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on April 26, 2003, 12:36:16 PM
You can apparently hear the final, mixed version of the album here (http://www.valueradio.ee/). It takes a bit of scrolling around to find.

Also, here is some news on the Sigur Ros/Radiohead collaboration (from ateastweb.com): "As reported earlier on ateaseweb.com Radiohead and Sigur Ros will create new music for the Merce Cunningham Dance Company's piece "Split Sides," which will debut Oct. 14 at New York's Brooklyn Academy of Music (BAM). Radiohead guitarist Jonny Greenwood reveals to Billboard.com that on opening night, each group will perform 20 minutes of live music with a twist: the dancers "won't have heard the music until they start."

"It is raising lots of interesting problems about what dance music is," Greenwood admits. "We're talking about the bands crossing from one to the other or sorting out a structure. It could be interesting. Maybe we'll all kind of surprise each other and do the opposite kind of music that we're known for."

"Split Sides" will also be staged Oct. 16-18 at BAM, with the dancers performing to a combination of pre-recorded music and live musicians attempting to recreate the Radiohead and Sigur Ros compositions. A similar arrangement will be utilized when Cunningham's troupe performs the piece elsewhere.

"Musicians copying what we're doing sounds bizarre to me," says Greenwood. "I feel for them! We only just know what we're doing. I'm sure it will be easy for them, but it just might be a bit weird.'"
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Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sphinx on April 26, 2003, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: Dirk
You can apparently hear the final, mixed version of the album here (http://www.valueradio.ee/). It takes a bit of scrolling around to find.


that site doesn't seem to be working :\
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on April 26, 2003, 07:08:07 PM
Ja, dieser Aufstellungsort scheint nicht zu arbeiten
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on April 26, 2003, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Ja, dieser Aufstellungsort scheint nicht zu arbeiten


Exactly.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on April 26, 2003, 11:58:17 PM
Quote from: sphinx
that site doesn't seem to be working :\

i am shocked..

make it english at the top left corner, UK flag, then go albums, find R for Radiohead.

is the actual stream not happenin? i don't hav time to check it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sphinx on April 27, 2003, 12:30:41 AM
Quote from: P
is the actual stream not happenin? i don't hav time to check it.


yeah, the stream isn't happy
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: phil marlowe on April 27, 2003, 08:10:31 AM
Nein dizbatcher says zere iss problem mit deine kable.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sigur Rós on April 27, 2003, 12:45:47 PM
Mein nommen iss Karl.  Is hard to verk in zese cloze
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on May 03, 2003, 12:14:02 PM
A copy of the Hail to the Thief promo CD:

(http://www.greenplastic.com/news/archives/Radiohead-thief-pro-pak.jpg)


(http://www.greenplastic.com/news/archives/Radiohead-thief-pak2.jpg)

In other news, there are now clips from the "There, There" video on the new (http://www.radiohead.tv) official site. You have to register first to view them.[/url]
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sigur Rós on May 03, 2003, 02:20:02 PM
Got to get my fingers on a copy of Hail to the Theif!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: russiasusha on May 04, 2003, 03:34:53 AM
Quote
In other news, there are now clips from the "There, There" video on the new official site. You have to register first to view them.


or you can see them this way (http://www.greenplastic.com/news/archives/00000462.html)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: life_boy on May 08, 2003, 05:13:13 AM
For any fans of classical music who also really dig Radiohead, check this (http://www.truelovewaits.cc/) site out.  This classical pianist has a whole CD coming out in which he transcribed 15 Radiohead songs into solo piano pieces.  You can hear selections on the site.  Sounds pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on May 15, 2003, 08:32:57 AM
so what's with radiohead.tv?

that trailer for the "new channel" is bizarre, i can imagine being freaked out by it if i was little. i hope the rest of their new deal is like this, intense like.

and with everything having 2 titles?

Hail To The Thief/The Gloaming:
01 2+2=5/The Lukewarm
02 Sit Down Stand Up/Snakes & Ladders
03 Sail To The Moon/Brush the Cobwebs Out Of The Sky
04 Backdrifts/Honeymoon Is Over
05 Go To Sleep/Little Man Being Erased
06 Where I End And You Begin/The Sky Falling In
07 We Suck Young Blood/Your Time Is Up
08 The Gloaming/Softly Open our Mouths In The Cold
09 There There/The Boney King of Nowhere
10 I Will/No Man's Land
11 A Punch Up At A Wedding/No No No No No No No No
12 Myxamatosis/Judge, Jury & Executioner
13 Scatterbrain/As Dead As Leaves
14 A Wolf At The Door/It Girl. Rag Doll

is this for real?

yes i am clueless, fill me in. what else.. oh yeah, the maps thing (http://capitolrecords.com/radiohead/pinmap/therethere.php) is fun, see clips of there there if u pin it right.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on May 15, 2003, 08:40:56 AM
I think Radiohead TV will be officially launched on May 25th. It will have all sorts of goodies like live footage, video clips, interviews, etc.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 15, 2003, 09:08:40 AM
Quote from: _|P|_
oh yeah, the maps thing (http://capitolrecords.com/radiohead/pinmap/therethere.php) is fun, see clips of there there if u pin it right.


I think it just gives you a clip after 4 tries... looks like it's going to be a nice site though...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on May 15, 2003, 10:36:51 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
I think it just gives you a clip after 4 tries...

u just gotta put them on the red bits, then click the triangle-in-circle-in-triangle things.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on May 15, 2003, 03:56:42 PM
Just to let everyone know, the mixed and mastered version of the album is now on the web somewhere.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: moonshiner on May 18, 2003, 07:14:54 PM
anybody know what's going to be on the limited edition release of Hail to the Thief? it's just a different cover and costs more money, for all i can tell...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on May 18, 2003, 07:23:06 PM
Quote from: moonshiner
anybody know what's going to be on the limited edition release of Hail to the Thief? it's just a different cover and costs more money, for all i can tell...


Basically it's just different packaging. No extra tracks or nothing like that. The packaging is gonna be incredible from what I gather and from the fact that the Amnesiac limited edition was incredible.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on May 18, 2003, 07:25:28 PM
The packaging?  That's it?  What will be so special about the packaging?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on May 18, 2003, 07:27:15 PM
Two new b-sides (http://poubellelqt.free.fr/httt/B-sides/) and the mastered album (http://poubellelqt.free.fr/httt) for those who care.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: USTopGun47 on May 18, 2003, 08:06:12 PM
Anyone heard the String Quartet tribute to Radiohead doing OK Computer?  Greatttt stuff!   :-D
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: moonshiner on May 18, 2003, 08:15:13 PM
my guess is the limited edition will be a soft cover

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000092ZYY.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)



regular cover....

(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000092ZYX.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 18, 2003, 08:24:45 PM
their last two albums also came in 2 formats regular and special limited edition, and the only difference is the presentation.  the amnesiac one is pretty cool because its the actual "book" from the cover of the album, but no extra tracks or anything.  

thanks a bunch for those b-sides, i had the album from there, but wasnt aware the b-sides leaked as well.

yeah, i heard the string quartet tribute while i was in borders books one day and thought it was really cool.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on May 18, 2003, 08:26:18 PM
I'm not going to download the mastered version, but for those who have heard it:  How different is it from the original leaked copy?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on May 18, 2003, 09:10:25 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth
How different is it from the original leaked copy?

it's better.

think a real album made with instruments compared to sumthing produced with a moustache comb and string.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on May 18, 2003, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth
I'm not going to download the mastered version, but for those who have heard it:  How different is it from the original leaked copy?

It sounds prettier.  More electronic drums.  And "The Gloaming" is a lot better
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 18, 2003, 10:50:14 PM
Links?

 :multi:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on May 18, 2003, 10:52:02 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Links?

 :multi:


Quote from: Dirk
Two new b-sides (http://poubellelqt.free.fr/httt/B-sides/) and the mastered album (http://poubellelqt.free.fr/httt) for those who care.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 18, 2003, 11:22:26 PM
Guess I'm not a patient reader.  :yabbse-undecided:

Overall, yeah, Pubrick is right. Incredible difference. More powerful, more beautiful, more hypnotic. Cleaner, with more bass.

I am a little disappointed with Sit Down Stand Up.. hate the drumbeat. Luckily I have the "original"...

I'm much more impressed with the sound of Go to Sleep, which I think is my favorite song on the album. More instruments, I think...

We Suck Young Blood doesn't sound fuzzy anymore. Less echo on the vocals, too. I kind of liked the faint, echo-y vocals better. But I can get used to this.

I'm getting more attached to The Gloaming, and I Will is just a classic (although I like the other beginning better).

The b-sides are beautiful... I just hope Radiohead isn't labeled "electronic"...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on May 19, 2003, 12:18:37 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman

I am a little disappointed with Sit Down Stand Up.. hate the drumbeat. Luckily I have the "original"...


I think it fits with the chimes going on...it took me a while, but now it all clicks with me.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on May 19, 2003, 03:54:10 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
I'm getting more attached to The Gloaming

they cut the final minute off, which was just random echoes, i like the new ending a lot more.. eerie.

Go To Sleep is living up to my initial expectations that it would be sickkkkkkk.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 19, 2003, 03:08:40 PM
"Wolf at the Door" really sounds incredible... the next single?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on May 19, 2003, 04:31:37 PM
I really love the cover.

Enough to check out what's inside, though...??

...to be continued.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on May 19, 2003, 07:46:00 PM
I guess I missed out on the mastered album here... very disapointing.

When I click on either link, it just says:
Alright ... since you downloaded it, buy the fucking album now !


I figured that something would at least start transfering, but nothing... any help out there would be greatly appreciated.  Maybe I'm  doing something wrong.

That video is great BTW... cats gettin' hitched...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on May 19, 2003, 08:27:05 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
I guess I missed out on the mastered album here... very disapointing.

When I click on either link, it just says:
Alright ... since you downloaded it, buy the fucking album now !


I figured that something would at least start transfering, but nothing... any help out there would be greatly appreciated.  Maybe I'm  doing something wrong.

That video is great BTW... cats gettin' hitched...


RK, do you have MSN? I wouldn't mind transferring them to you. Also, there are many files up on Soulseek now.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on May 19, 2003, 08:45:07 PM
I just saw the video.  What a trip, it's fucking great
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: European Son on May 19, 2003, 09:38:17 PM
Good to see Radiohead getting back to making good videos. They went from the greatness of the videos for "Just," "Fake Plastic Trees," and "Karma Police" to stuff like the videos for "Pyramid Song" and "Knives Out." Radiohead seem very more open to publicity and the like this time around as opposed to when Kid A was released. The fact that they're being creative with it makes it even better.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on May 20, 2003, 12:11:13 AM
Quote from: European Son
Good to see Radiohead getting back to making good videos. They went from the greatness of the videos for "Just," "Fake Plastic Trees," and "Karma Police" to stuff like the videos for "Pyramid Song" and "Knives Out." Radiohead seem very more open to publicity and the like this time around as opposed to when Kid A was released. The fact that they're being creative with it makes it even better.


I think "Just" was one of the best videos of the nineties.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 20, 2003, 12:20:21 AM
their SevenTelevisionCommercials video is a pretty good compilation of some of their best videoes (up thru Ok Computer).  i like the Street Spirit video.  cool black and white lots of changing speeds and neatO camera tricks.  no surprises is good too.  simple, but cool.  fits the song too.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Victor on May 22, 2003, 08:56:12 PM
Does anyone else have 'Meeting People Is Easy'? I just ordered it from eBay. Is it good?

'There There' is great, one of their best videos. Im not listening to the others till the album comes out tho
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on May 22, 2003, 11:10:56 PM
Quote from: Lester
Does anyone else have 'Meeting People Is Easy'? I just ordered it from eBay. Is it good?


Yeah, it's a pretty good documentary. I find it hard to watch sometimes though because of what they have to go through and such. You'll see..
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 23, 2003, 12:15:33 AM
Yeah, it's kind of depressing... and Thom looks drunk and pissed off through the whole thing. Really interesting though, and it's more of a mystery than a glorification.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 23, 2003, 01:17:53 AM
yeah it is pretty depressing. although totally interesting for anyone who loves the whole OKComputer era RH.  (like me).
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sexterossa on May 24, 2003, 03:07:56 AM
how can you guys do this. your talking a band at the height of artistic achievement completely to death. don't make art trivial.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on May 24, 2003, 08:29:53 AM
Quote from: sexterossa
how can you guys do this. your talking a band at the height of artistic achievement completely to death. don't make art trivial.


 :yabbse-huh:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 26, 2003, 10:29:11 PM
I think I know my HTTT favorites... might as well make a list..

1. Go to Sleep
2. I Will
3. The Gloaming
4. Backdrifts
5. Wolf at the Door
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Gold Trumpet on May 26, 2003, 11:58:10 PM
I like Radiohead and all, but I will make this maybe my only comment on something Radiohead: I once dated a girl that Thom Yorke hit on for a good three months with no success. I heard he was even dating someone during then. Don't care if any of you don't believe it, but it is true.

~rougerum
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on May 26, 2003, 11:59:40 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
I like Radiohead and all, but I will make this maybe my only comment on something Radiohead: I once dated a girl that Thom Yorke hit on for a good three months with no success. I heard he was even dating someone during then. Don't care if any of you don't believe it, but it is true.

~rougerum

thanks for sharing.

now u can go back to wanting to be hated.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Gold Trumpet on May 27, 2003, 02:42:58 PM
don't want to be hated. I just say what I say and am hated by some people. I don't directly begin to offend anyone. If I ever do it, it is always in responce to another direct attack.

~rougerum
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on May 28, 2003, 03:37:39 PM
"Go to Sleep" is set to be the follow up single for HTTT. Also, there is a remix of Scatterbrain currently being worked on.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 28, 2003, 08:08:30 PM
Quote from: Dirk
"Go to Sleep" is set to be the follow up single for HTTT


yes, yes, yes, YES.

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
"Wolf at the Door" really sounds incredible... the next single?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 28, 2003, 10:39:41 PM
hmm... heres something i have a little complaint about.  does Thom Yorke have to mumble through the whole new cd?  didnt he used to ennunciate?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sphinx on May 28, 2003, 10:43:27 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
didnt he used to ennunciate?


 :yabbse-undecided:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 28, 2003, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
does Thom Yorke have to mumble through the whole new cd?  didnt he used to ennunciate?


Have you heard Amnesiac?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Victor on May 28, 2003, 11:02:38 PM
he enunciates more on this acoustic albim i have, i guess it fits for acoustic, but it takes away from the feeling. imagine Motion Picture Soundtrack clear as a bell, or Paranoid Android without all the insane jabbering/slurring. what would be the point? I love that the vocals are treated more as an instument than just a bunch of words that need to be heard. Its all about the sound and feeling. If you like it youll keep listening to it and then pay attention and try to crack what hes saying, but on the first few listens, just go with it and enjoy thom's voice for what it is. Maybe youll start hearing shit if you stop trying so hard to listen.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 28, 2003, 11:23:50 PM
hmm, its not that i cant figure out what he is saying.  its that he really sounds like he is mumbling thru all the words on the whole album!  yes, i have heard amnesiac.  but it kind of made more sense with that being their "refusal to write songs and have melodies", but with this being their triumphant return to form, i seem to remember the last time they wrote songs, him singing them differently.  
i really dont think it would take away from all the feeling.  in fact, just the opposite,  i feel like OKComputer has more feeling than this album will ever have because his voice seems like it cares.  he whispers, , he screams, he yearns, he sings his heart out.  but on this album his refusal to really dive into his words makes it seem more halfassed and has less emotion.  
(as for MOTION PICTURE SOUNDTRACK i actually would prefer it if he did sing a little more.  i used to have some live version of that song a  year or so before it came out on KID A and it had another verse and certainly was more of a straighforward, verse chorus verse chorus guitar type of thing that i got so used to i never really got intot he album version! i guess thats my own fault though. :( )
its not that i dont like this album.  the melodies, like i said, have really gotten inside my head already. but today i was just noticing that he was kind of mumbling his way through EVERY SONG.  whether it seems to fit the mood or not.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on May 29, 2003, 07:17:38 AM
You can't understand him on "I Will"?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Victor on May 30, 2003, 05:01:11 PM
im getting up early tomorrow and trying to score tix for the $2 show at Beacon Theatre. Wish me luck!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on May 30, 2003, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: Lester
im getting up early tomorrow and trying to score tix for the $2 show at Beacon Theatre. Wish me luck!


Good luck! I'll be seeing the show at a movie theatre, as that show is being broadcast across several Famous Players screens across Canada.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Victor on May 30, 2003, 06:09:13 PM
Quote from: Dirk


Good luck! I'll be seeing the show at a movie theatre, as that show is being broadcast across several Famous Players screens across Canada.


thats cool man, canada's getteing pretty killer - first, weed legalization and now this!

its also gonna be on mtv2 june 17 for all us south of the border fans.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sphinx on May 30, 2003, 11:38:03 PM
i received this today in the email

Dear [sphinx],

Hope you are well
Thank you for your entry for the Radiohead video comp.

It's taken a while but at last we have managed to get through all the
hundreds of submissions!!
The competition has been a great success with loads of films being sent to
us.

I'm sorry to say that your short film has not been selected for Radiohead.
Including yours, we have seen lots of great, high quality films over the
last few weeks,  however, as we can only use a limited amount of films, we
have had to be strict and let some go! It's been very hard!!

If you would like your film returned to you please let us know, with your
address, within 7 days of this email after this we will not be able to do
this for you!! (sorry)

Thanks again!!!
Best Wishes
Roz

c/o Dilly Gent


that was this short i showed you all a while ago

(http://ambulance.planet1337.com/pyra1.jpg)

(http://ambulance.planet1337.com/pyra3.jpg)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on May 30, 2003, 11:46:42 PM
Those bastards! Boycott Radiohead! Who is with me? Dirk?

Can we see still see it, sphinx? In the Feature Presentation forum, please?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 31, 2003, 12:06:16 AM
Yeah. And you still owe us an animated short.  :yabbse-sad:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sphinx on May 31, 2003, 12:07:36 AM
i don't have a copy of it on my computer anymore, but i did request for my copy to be shipped back to me, hopefully they'll include some kind of present with it or something

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Yeah. And you still owe us an animated short.  :yabbse-sad:


i vowed never to do a similar thing twice to pubrick recently, this includes challenges or animated shorts; there are far too many other things i'd like to try around here instead of spending my time repeating myself
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on May 31, 2003, 06:29:46 AM
Quote from: Dirk
Quote from: sexterossa
how can you guys do this. your talking a band at the height of artistic achievement completely to death. don't make art trivial.


 :yabbse-huh:


 :yabbse-huh:  :yabbse-huh:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Victor on June 02, 2003, 04:28:28 PM
...fucking bummed, man.

woke my ass up at 530 and caught the train, thinkin id beat all the suckers to the punch. i get there and the line is all the way around the damn block, people mustve been there for days..but i got on anyway and waited a few hours, till the bastards finaly told 3/4's of the line to go home, there's not enough tickets. i just remember standing there, looking around, everyone - blank. like in Gump when he stops running and everyone behind him is like, what the fuck are we gonna do now? it was terrible. people that had been there all night had to just walk away, confused and abandoned. i mean, christ, you figure they would know that there wasnt gonna be enough tickets, whyd they have to jerk us off like that? fuckers.

but this Hail To The Thief van pulled up and this guy was throwing stickers and cards and shit everywhere, so at least i got something....

oh, and:

1-866-TOTHIEF.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 02, 2003, 05:06:27 PM
Sorry to hear that, I was awaiting your concert review
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 02, 2003, 05:11:54 PM
apparently the "tickets" they handed out dont even guarantee admission, so imagine the disappointment that still lies ahead for some poor folks!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 02, 2003, 05:51:13 PM
lester, philadelphia is only 2 hours from nyc and they are playing a "sonic session" here with the local radio station Y100.  (the only tickets are won on the radio,) but you would probably have a better shot scheming to get into this show.  plus its a room with about a hundred people and the band plays like a foot in front of you (only 10 songs or so,) but its a really cool experience, as opposed to just a superpacked nyc show in a theatre.  i went to the strokes sonic session.  it was neat.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on June 04, 2003, 02:04:26 PM
If any of you are interested...

http://http://www.mtv.com/music/the_leak/radiohead/hail_to_the_thief/
 
It is the entire album to listen to.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on June 04, 2003, 03:55:58 PM
That's SO April  :roll: ... j/k  8)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 04, 2003, 03:57:39 PM
fucking field day, fucking giants stadium.        fuck.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on June 05, 2003, 12:30:32 PM
I don't know if this will interest anyone, but everytime I listen to a Radiohead album, it seems to build to this one moment, this massive climax, then sorta ease you down from there. I love when albums play as a whole, rather than just a bounch of good songs thrown together.

The high water marks (for me):

Pablo Honey: Vegtable (though, maybe Rip Cord, this first one's hard)
Bends: Sulk
OK: Climbing The Walls (my personal fav)
Kid A: Optimistic -- In Limbo (I count as one full song)
Amnesiac: Morning Bell/Amnesiac

So that's that...

BTW, modern age, I love your La Dolce Vita avatar!!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on June 10, 2003, 09:14:37 AM
Waited in line at Midnight for Hail to the Thief, got the Special Edition along with a 7 inch EP of There There and Paperbag Writer for free.

I love this album.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 10, 2003, 09:47:46 AM
I'm going to pick it up right now
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: edison on June 10, 2003, 09:51:21 AM
damnit, i have till wait till friday
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on June 10, 2003, 09:51:29 AM
I'll get my copy in 5 hours...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on June 10, 2003, 09:53:17 AM
Best Buy has the limited ed. for $13
Circuit City has the regular ed. for $9
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on June 10, 2003, 09:55:40 AM
What's special about the lmtd ed?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on June 10, 2003, 10:04:05 AM
Quote from: Dirk
Quote from: moonshiner
anybody know what's going to be on the limited edition release of Hail to the Thief? it's just a different cover and costs more money, for all i can tell...


Basically it's just different packaging. No extra tracks or nothing like that. The packaging is gonna be incredible from what I gather and from the fact that the Amnesiac limited edition was incredible.


Thanks to Dirk for this. (http://planeta.terra.com.br/arte/gregoriogruber/radiohead/htttartall.htm)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 10, 2003, 10:42:12 AM
My Best Buy didn't have Limited Edition
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: European Son on June 10, 2003, 11:58:52 AM
Quote from: tremolosloth
My Best Buy didn't have Limited Edition

Didn't have it? WTF? Sold out? Perhaps I'll have to go elsewhere. Either way, I'm getting the LE even if I have to track it down.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 10, 2003, 12:02:59 PM
Well I went there as soon as it opened, and my friend said he was in there about 30 minutes later and got it (same store) so whatever

I happen like jewel cases anyway
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: edison on June 10, 2003, 12:55:45 PM
yeah, if the LE is like a book like the one for Amnesiac then ill pass, i have no where to put the disc when im done with it cause a small book is not gonna fit on my cd rack, oh well.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 10, 2003, 01:16:54 PM
got the LE cd at midnite and it....SOUNDS JUST LIKE THE ONE IVE HAD FOR MONTHS!  damnit.  why do i ruin everything for myself?  i need to learn about patience.  did anybody get the cd that hadnt heard it before?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on June 10, 2003, 01:17:56 PM
Me... in about 10 minutes (lunch break)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: European Son on June 10, 2003, 01:18:47 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
got the LE cd at midnite and it....SOUNDS JUST LIKE THE ONE IVE HAD FOR MONTHS!  damnit.  why do i ruin everything for myself?  i need to learn about patience.  did anybody get the cd that hadnt heard it before?

I've only allowed myself to listen to five songs, "2+2=5," "There There," "A Punch Up At A Wedding," "Sail to the Moon," and "A Wolf at the Door". So a majority of the record will be a surprise to me.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on June 10, 2003, 01:20:24 PM
I like the LE book but I don't know what to do with the case.  I don't know if I should take the poster that the LE booklet folds out into and take it out of the book and actually use it (i'm thinking not).

I went at midnight last night at a local record store and there was about 75 people lined up for it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Victor on June 10, 2003, 03:46:10 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
did anybody get the cd that hadnt heard it before?


yes.

holy fuck.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Ghostboy on June 10, 2003, 04:07:23 PM
I had only heard There There and 2+2=5 before today. I'm now on my third straight spin...it always takes me a few days to get a total grasp on a record, but as of now, my favorites would be = A Punch Up At A Wedding and Wolf At The Door, and also a few more that I don't know the names or track numbers of yet, because at this point the record is still, for me, an ungelled mass of awesomeness.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on June 11, 2003, 12:12:47 PM
loveit loveit
gets better with each spin
I don't know what was going through their blood when they were creating that change on 2+2=5 but that was the greatest thing I'veheard in a while
the album's got a nice flow to it
loveit
I thought aligators in New York sewers was supposed to be on Hail to the Thief
does anybody know this song?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 11, 2003, 12:13:45 PM
I think that song changed names to Fog and was a b-side for Amnesiac.  The studio version of Fog is UNBELIEVABLY GORGEOUS
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on June 11, 2003, 12:36:11 PM
i can understand them not including I Froze Up.

but when will LIFT get a damn official release? the newer version preferably.

[BigCall] it's the best thing they've ever done. [/BigCall]
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on June 11, 2003, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: P
but when will LIFT get a damn official release? the newer version preferably.


I prefer the older one. What they need to release is "Follow Me Around". Sheesh.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Mesh on June 11, 2003, 04:06:23 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy
....as of now, my favorites would be = A Punch Up At A Wedding and Wolf At The Door....


A Wolf At The Door just might be the best thing HTTT's got going.  At this point though, (I've heard it about 3 times), I think A Punchup is one of the two weakest tracks, the other being Backdrifts.

A.  Both are a bit too long and drift a little.

B.  Both seem like rehashes of older, better Radiohead material, Backdrifts especially.

But then, HTTT doesn't display a ton of innovation, at least not compared to OKC, Kid A, and Amnesiac.

Godardian:  Hear this album.  I think I remember you saying you only really enjoyed OK Computer; if so, this is the 2nd Radiohead album you should own.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: European Son on June 11, 2003, 04:06:56 PM
They also need to release "Big Ideas (Don't Get Any)" AKA "Nude"
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Mesh on June 11, 2003, 04:11:56 PM
The whole first half (tracks 1-8 ) is so, so political.  I like the fact that Thom was able to move on from his dark self-exploratory phase, his inquiries into POV and authorship found on Kid A and Amnesiac (although those fascinate me—next time you listen to Amnesiac, concentrate on pronouns).  HTTT is far more topical than the last two albums, but in a heady, dark, oblique way.  HTTT, more like OKC  than any other Radiohead album, is a document very much of the proletariat viewpoint concerning the USA and Britain's relationship with the world and vice versa.

Where Thom got "This is our shiny pop rock album," I'll never know.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sigur Rós on June 11, 2003, 04:19:57 PM
I'm so tired of Thom Yorke. I red a interview the other day, and everything he said was depressing crap. He sounded like a really confused man.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on June 11, 2003, 04:22:04 PM
Quote from: Sigur Rós
I'm so tired of Thom Yorke. I red a interview the other day, and everything he said was depressing crap. He sounded like a really confused man.


he sounds like a ass in the new rolling stone
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sigur Rós on June 11, 2003, 04:25:03 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalones
Quote from: Sigur Rós
I'm so tired of Thom Yorke. I red a interview the other day, and everything he said was depressing crap. He sounded like a really confused man.


he sounds like a ass in the new rolling stone


Totally! I got all "If you don't like our planet, then go back to Mars!"
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on June 11, 2003, 04:47:06 PM
HTTT does get better with every listen, I don't think one listen on any radiohead album is fair, they are just too much and they need more listens for it all to sink in.

I really like Myxomatosis, 2+2=5 and A Wolf at the Door.  This album has already moved up to atleast #3 for my favorite Radiohead albums (after OKC and Bends, just ahead of KID A)

Right now I am giving one of my roommates album by album, making him listen to them.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on June 11, 2003, 04:50:59 PM
the war was only a few weeks long, but all our hipsters wanted it to be like veitnam, so they can have a cool thing to rebal against

in the end they all looked like shallow jerks, who were only in it for their images

hail to the theif, wow that will go down as well as a anti grenada refernce
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Mesh on June 11, 2003, 04:56:26 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalones
the war was only a few weeks long, but all our hipsters wanted it to be like veitnam, so they can have a cool thing to rebal against

in the end they all looked like shallow jerks, who were only in it for their images

hail to the theif, wow that will go down as well as a anti grenada refernce


Genius, what the hell does any of that mean?

Hipsters wanted the Iraq War to be like Vietnam because they "need something to rebel against."  Yeah, that's awesome, Genius.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: phil marlowe on June 11, 2003, 04:57:03 PM
Quote from: P
Quote from: Mesh
I'll quit posting and consider suicide, how 'bout that?

yeah, what happened to that?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Mesh on June 11, 2003, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: Phil Marlowe
Quote from: P
Quote from: Mesh
I'll quit posting and consider suicide, how 'bout that?

yeah, what happened to that?


Hi, Angst.  Nice to hear from you again, Angst.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on June 11, 2003, 05:01:46 PM
Quote from: Mesh
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalones
the war was only a few weeks long, but all our hipsters wanted it to be like veitnam, so they can have a cool thing to rebal against

in the end they all looked like shallow jerks, who were only in it for their images

hail to the theif, wow that will go down as well as a anti grenada refernce


Genius, what the hell does any of that mean?

Hipsters wanted the Iraq War to be like Vietnam because they "need something to rebel against."  Yeah, that's awesome, Genius.



lover of man ass, what it means is people like you are idiots and fuck you the war happned and i am sooooo happy that it ruined your day it made the whole thing worth while
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pas on June 11, 2003, 05:07:48 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalones

lover of man ass, what it means is people like you are idiots and fuck you the war happned and i am sooooo happy that it ruined your day it made the whole thing worth while


That shows how deep your comprehension of human suffering is.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Mesh on June 11, 2003, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalones

lover of man ass, what it means is people like you are idiots and fuck you the war happned and i am sooooo happy that it ruined your day it made the whole thing worth while


Genius, not that even a man of your intellect would know such a thing, but I supported the War in Iraq.....I was about 80/20 for/against the whole time.

Of all the people who's day was ruined by the war, my day was ruined least.

Genius, why are you so hostile to "hipsters"? I find myself wondering....
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pas on June 11, 2003, 05:36:31 PM
Yeah, you americans had to protect yourselves from the weapons of mass destruction they had in Iraq...oh wait...

And what better way to liberate someone than to throw a fucking missile on his building ...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on June 11, 2003, 05:37:13 PM
Quote from: Mesh
Quote from:





I find myself wondering.... what it would be like to lick my own ass, i mean i have licked quite a few ass's in my day and have been told mine tastes great by booth  


well good luck with all that , you might want to try some sort of yoga
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on June 11, 2003, 05:37:45 PM
Quote from: Booth
Yeah, you americans had to protect yourselves from the weapons of mass destruction they had in Iraq...oh wait...

And what better way to liberate someone than to throw a fucking missile on his building ...


works for me
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pas on June 11, 2003, 05:43:56 PM
At the risk of repeting myself ... that shows how deep your comprehension of human suffering is.

Anyway, I feel like I'm ruining threads now so I'll stop there.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sigur Rós on June 11, 2003, 05:52:50 PM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalones
Quote from: Mesh
Quote from:





I find myself wondering.... what it would be like to lick my own ass, i mean i have licked quite a few ass's in my day and have been told mine tastes great by booth  


well good luck with all that , you might want to try some sort of yoga


hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: phil marlowe on June 11, 2003, 06:13:16 PM
man these threads has gone to hell. better stop here. i will continue hating mesh till the day i die though.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on June 11, 2003, 06:19:02 PM
Quote from: Phil Marlowe
man these threads has gone to hell. better stop here. i will continue hating mesh till the day i die though.


you are right,

 word for word perfect, and the best way to cap this debate .
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on June 11, 2003, 06:48:01 PM
Quote from: FASCISM


the right people have a way of generalizing people into groups and labeling some groups "right" and others "wrong"
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on June 11, 2003, 07:41:38 PM
everybody go have a coke
RIGHT NOW
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: European Son on June 12, 2003, 01:14:52 AM
So, uh...."A Wolf at the Door" sure is cool, huh? Let's talk about Radiohead....guys.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on June 12, 2003, 02:02:30 AM
Looks like the wonderful cover painting was done by Stanley Donwood... name sounds familiar, and I think I remember a painting with a similar style that may have been done by Donwood... is he a prominent artist outside of album covers, anyone know?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on June 12, 2003, 02:05:06 AM
Quote from: godardian
Looks like the wonderful cover painting was done by Stanley Donwood... name sounds familiar, and I think I remember a painting with a similar style that may have been done by Donwood... is he a prominent artist outside of album covers, anyone know?


http://www.slowlydownward.com/
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on June 12, 2003, 02:05:22 AM
I answer my own question:

http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~mogwai/donwood.html
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sigur Rós on June 12, 2003, 09:43:17 AM
Quote from: AlguienEstolamiPantalones
Quote from: godardian
Looks like the wonderful cover painting was done by Stanley Donwood... name sounds familiar, and I think I remember a painting with a similar style that may have been done by Donwood... is he a prominent artist outside of album covers, anyone know?


http://www.slowlydownward.com/


Quote from: godardian
I answer my own question:

http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~mogwai/donwood.html


Guys, be friends!  :-D
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Mesh on June 12, 2003, 10:41:48 AM
Quote from: European Son
So, uh...."A Wolf at the Door" sure is cool, huh? Let's talk about Radiohead....guys.


Just might be my favorite on the album.  I love it when Thom's lyrics get all manic and frantic like that.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 12, 2003, 10:43:37 AM
My favorites are Backdrifts and Go To Sleep

Least favorite:  The Gloaming.  I know a lot of you think highly of the song, but I don't get it.  It sounds so damn mediocre especially compared to the rest of the album.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on June 12, 2003, 10:49:47 AM
I definitely agree about Backdrifts and Go To Sleep. I'd add Drunken Punch Up to that list as well.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on June 12, 2003, 11:21:18 AM
I've heard Creep a load of times, but it's still great.

What also rocks is Air Bag, the classic Karma Police, Thinking About You...Talk Show Host...and a bunch of titles that don't come to mind...

Great band, though!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on June 13, 2003, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Mesh
I think A Punchup is one of the two weakest tracks, the other being Backdrifts.

A.  Both are a bit too long and drift a little.

B.  Both seem like rehashes of older, better Radiohead material, Backdrifts especially.


Two Of The Best Tracks On The Album!
Keep listening to them
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: European Son on June 13, 2003, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: Mesh
Quote from: European Son
So, uh...."A Wolf at the Door" sure is cool, huh? Let's talk about Radiohead....guys.


Just might be my favorite on the album.  I love it when Thom's lyrics get all manic and frantic like that.

Yeah, I noted it as sort of sounding like Lou Reed on speed. It's a fast paced speak-sing.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on June 14, 2003, 11:49:32 AM
Radiohead have announced their North American tour (http://www.ateaseweb.com/live/index.php). Scroll down to the month of August. I'll be there in Montreal  8)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 14, 2003, 12:08:32 PM
Oh cool, they aren't coming anywhere near me
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: European Son on June 14, 2003, 02:03:35 PM
I believe more dates will be announced shortly. I originaly heard that they were touring the U.S. until early October. Surely that will be the case, because that's a really short tour otherwise.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 14, 2003, 07:15:26 PM
ugh, pavillions.  i fucking HATE pavillions almost as much as i hate arenas (which i hate almost as much as i hate stadiums).

on a side note:  how many fucking tweeter centers must there be?  remember before corporations bought up all the fucking arenas and they had like, real names that related to the town they were in, and werent like big fucking commercials?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 14, 2003, 07:32:00 PM
You talk crazy talk

Xcingular
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sigur Rós on June 16, 2003, 01:46:17 PM
I have a question:

What is the word, on the 'Hail to the Thief'-cover, placed in the lower right corner?

1: Beef
2: Delicious
3: Security
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 16, 2003, 01:53:44 PM
umm security.  is this a quiz?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sigur Rós on June 16, 2003, 02:01:46 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
umm security.  is this a quiz?


Yeah, in a Danish music-magazine. Thx!  :wink:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 16, 2003, 02:03:36 PM
no problem. as long as you keep posting with that beautiful Nicole Kidman avatar, ill answer all the questions you want.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: phil marlowe on June 16, 2003, 02:06:42 PM
yeah sigur, that IS a very nice avatar. im gonna see dogville tomorrow and i cant wait.

cant wait to see that rape scene.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: bonanzataz on June 16, 2003, 04:32:01 PM
damn. i'll be away most of august. i really want to see them live.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Duck Sauce on June 16, 2003, 06:18:05 PM
If you like Radiohead you will also like _____________________?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MrBurgerKing on June 16, 2003, 06:19:35 PM
Whoppers with cheese, no onions (but a large onion rings instead of french fries). Cashiers may look at you funny though.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on June 16, 2003, 06:24:46 PM
Quote from: Duck Sauce
If you like Radiohead you will also like _____________________?


Badly Drawn Boy

I'm going to their August 23rd show at Alpine Valley.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 16, 2003, 06:28:48 PM
its a him.  Damon Gough.  but enjoy yourself.  have you seen him before?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on June 16, 2003, 06:49:16 PM
their = radiohead

enjoy yourself
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 16, 2003, 06:59:50 PM
Quote from: SHAFTR
Quote from: Duck Sauce
If you like Radiohead you will also like _____________________?


Badly Drawn Boy

I'm going to their August 23rd show at Alpine Valley.


my mistake.  i thought you were referring to BDB as "their" and that was the show you were attending. apologies for confusion. did anyone else misread that?  theres no reason to get snippy with me sir, i was simply wishing you the best on your journey into the heart of the wilderbeast.

so, onto a totally seperate topic, have you seen Badly Drawn Boy?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on June 16, 2003, 07:08:29 PM
No, I haven't seen him.  I would like to someday.  I think Hour of Bewilderbeast is genius and About a Boy is one of the best soundtracks I've ever heard.  I didn't like Have you Fed the Fish that much, but it was still good.

Have you seen him?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 16, 2003, 07:14:32 PM
:yabbse-thumbup:  :turn-l:  :yabbse-thumbup:
lets just hug and be friends.
yeah i totally agree. i loved the first two cds as well and thought the third one was totally forgetable.  i saw him twice i think and he was really interesting.  the last time i saw him he sung the "i always thought i built my world around you, its a miracle i ever found you", part of "I Was Wrong" to my girlfriend while he was holding her hand. it was pretty funny, he will come down into the audience and make up lyrics about someone and sing to them.  he's an interesting show thats for sure.  umm, i got to talk to him for a few minutes after each show and he signed my HOB and AAB cds and invited us to a bar with him, but unfortunately at that time i was not yet 21.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 16, 2003, 08:19:46 PM
I haven't heard the AAB soundtrack, but half of Bewilderbeast is AWESOME.  Does anyone have a live version of I Was Wrong (or is it You Were Right?) that he played on Conan?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on June 16, 2003, 09:12:08 PM
Second leg of the North American tour (http://www.ateaseweb.com/live/2003/) (scroll down to Sept. and Oct)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 16, 2003, 09:17:10 PM
Victory!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on June 16, 2003, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: Dirk
Second leg of the North American tour (http://www.ateaseweb.com/live/2003/) (scroll down to Sept. and Oct)

I'm defenitely making a trip to The Woodlands in October.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 16, 2003, 09:19:01 PM
Me too
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on June 16, 2003, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth
Me too

See ya there, then.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: European Son on June 16, 2003, 10:01:08 PM
Atlanta Oct 6 for me. Sucks that Radiohead is playing these ampitheaters though.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 16, 2003, 10:07:57 PM
When was the last time they DIDN'T play them though
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 16, 2003, 10:21:29 PM
when they did the american tour for Kid A (all of TWO dates in ny and la, those pricks), and before that okcomputer in 1997.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 16, 2003, 10:25:33 PM
That's surprising.  I thought they had been doing them since at least Kid A, and most likely OKC
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sexterossa on June 19, 2003, 01:53:05 AM
is the hollywood bowl worth driving down from san francisco in order to avoid the shoreline amplitheater?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on June 19, 2003, 03:28:22 PM
I love it. but if your seats are too far back, then maybe not. but it's an open arena with lazer lights zooming everywhere, cool silhouettes on the wall in the back ground. but the best thing ever is when the band comes on, the sun starts to go down and the darkness/fog kicks in fading out the Hollywood sign on the hill in the bg. It's like you all of sudden entered this magical world and everything surrounding becomes irrelevant for two hours.
at least that's what happened when I saw them there last year.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on June 25, 2003, 11:36:12 AM
so I now officially love the new album as much as the others.

It took until the 5th listen to fully sink in. A wonderful thing of music.

Happy SoNowThen  8)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 26, 2003, 08:38:35 PM
The Gloaming + Myxomatosis= doo doo.  the album would be alot better, if i didnt have to keep skipping these stupid things.  dont they know what b-sides are?  also, while i am on my radiohead rant, how DARE thom say THIS album is "okcomputer2".  it sounds NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING like okcomputer.  and any reviews that say this sounds anything \like it, are not listening to the same album.  the review i agree most with, is actually the one from BLENDER that i was thumbing through the other day...

Radiohead promise a return to rock, but continue the dirge-fest
Reviewed by James Slaughter  

 
In the two years since their last album, Amnesiac, Radiohead have been dethroned by Coldplay as the kings of serious, pointy-headed British rock. The same fans who made Radiohead one of the world’s biggest, most admired bands after OK Computer in 1997 were bewildered by the free-jazz squalls and dissonant electronica of Kid A and Amnesiac and defected to Coldplay, who sound like Radiohead from before the days when Radiohead could scare your date.

The buildup to their sixth album, Hail to the Thief, suggests that Radiohead want to regain their fans — and their crown. Guitarist Ed O’Brien has claimed that the record “won’t alienate people…I think we’ve got over that musical snobbery. We feel rehungered.” He compared Radiohead’s current “swagger” to that of the Rolling Stones circa 1968. You can almost sense ears pricking up.

But ears are liable to quickly prick down again once they hear the album. Although it’s not as willfully obtuse as Kid A, it’s roughly 87 percent alienation and 13 percent swagger. The most commercial moment may well be the first single, “There There,” which features the rare return of actual guitars, including a charmingly strangulated Jonny Greenwood solo, but it stays strangely subdued until an acceleration well past the four-minute mark. By contrast, OK Computer’s “Paranoid Android” sounds like Van Halen.

Radiohead repeat that pattern throughout this confusing album, offering nothing in the way of a chorus, nothing approaching a hook, nothing graciously pleasing. The songs are packed with nice touches, but they sound vague and half-finished. Thom Yorke’s high, alien voice drawls and croons, often wordlessly, as though he has given up on language.

“Myxomatosis” (named for a highly lethal disease that infects rabbits) isn’t much more than a monstrous, proggy bass-synth riff, and Yorke haltingly declares, “I don’t know why I feel so tongue-tied.” “Backdrifts” offers the same whirring loops found on Amnesiac’s “Like Spinning Plates,” and it has a lovely piano line buried in the mix. “Sit Down, Stand Up” appears to be part of a song. Admittedly, it’s the best part, building slowly from pattering techno beats to speedy, drum-laden anxiety, but the excitement is undercut by a puzzling sense of incompleteness.

Hail to the Thief sounds less like a band swaggering than a band determined to keep circumventing and defacing rock & roll as they savor the outer limits of texture and deliberate inarticulateness. Sometimes they focus on an idea: “Sail to the Moon” is a woozy ballad with Pink Floyd orchestration, testament to how marvelous Yorke sounds when he eases up on the histrionics. “A Punch-up at the Wedding” is presumably the type of song that excited O’Brien — softly funky bass, lambent piano and caustically funny lyrics: “You had to piss on our parade,” Yorke complains, as distraught as ever.

Not the stuff of belly laughs, sure, but it’s a vast improvement on the rest of the mood, which reaches an apotheosis of misery on “We Suck Young Blood.” This is a cartoonist’s caricature of Radiohead: whining, tuneless, agonizingly slow and so depressing you can’t imagine anyone wanting to hear it twice. The song doesn’t exactly jump the shark, but it does walk listlessly around the shark tank, moaning about the appalling conditions marine life endures in captivity, before slumping home in a sulk.

Complaining that Radiohead sound miserable is like complaining that Britney Spears is tacky: That’s the essence of their appeal. Radiohead are meant to carry the weight of the world’s problems on their scrawny shoulders. Nevertheless, there’s something unappealing about Hail to the Thief’s brand of glum. It offers none of the thrilling anger that powered OK Computer. The album seems resigned, defeated, passive — like an hour-long sigh.

Lately, rock bands have seemed so desperate to please that their every move seems to imitate some other successful act, so it’s hard to criticize a group for taking risks. But there’s a world of difference between admiring a record’s ambition and enjoying the results; it’s the difference between Radiohead in 1997 and in 2003.

Hail to the Thief is the third straight Radiohead album that’s difficult to love: It’s too vague, too remote, too encased in its misery. The only concrete point it makes is that the thrilling band that made The Bends and OK Computer has dug its heels into joyless, post-rock dirt, and it’s not coming out.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 26, 2003, 08:45:27 PM
I don't like The Gloaming, but Myxomatosis is one of my favorites man.  And why is everyone so up on Radiohead "returning" to some sort of root in which they rocked hard or something.  I sure as hell don't remember that.  Listening back on their first 3 albums is a bore now that I have Kid A, Amnesiac, and HTTT.  They're evolving.  Won't you let them evolve?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on June 26, 2003, 09:59:30 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth
I don't like The Gloaming, but Myxomatosis is one of my favorites man.  And why is everyone so up on Radiohead "returning" to some sort of root in which they rocked hard or something.  I sure as hell don't remember that.  Listening back on their first 3 albums is a bore now that I have Kid A, Amnesiac, and HTTT.  They're evolving.  Won't you let them evolve?

Amen.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on June 27, 2003, 09:45:47 AM
I think the fucking album is great, and swaggers in its own way. It's just that their specific way of writing "melody" takes a good amount of listens to find. But when you do, it's soooooo worth it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sphinx on June 27, 2003, 05:18:45 PM
i got my music video cd back today from radiohead....no note with it or anything.  i made sure to leave the disc in pristine condition when i shipped it to see how they could handle it.  it arrived in a blank manilla envelope and the case was wrapped in bubble wrap.  something that looks like a cookie crumb and a few pieces of dust were all i could find on the surface of the cd.  inter-vesting
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: bonanzataz on June 28, 2003, 01:01:24 AM
sphinx, what the hell are you talking about?


anyway, this is the first radiohead cd i've listened to all the way through. i've always been more of a selected singles on kazaa man myself. but this album is amazing. i listen to it almost every night before sleep. the songs stick in my head like glue. i sure do love it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sphinx on June 28, 2003, 03:40:13 PM
Quote from: bonanzataz
sphinx, what the hell are you talking about?


i sent in a music video to radiohead a while ago because they were all like 'send us your music videos and shit'

so ya
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: BonBon85 on June 28, 2003, 04:19:09 PM
Sphinx, I'd love to see it, and I'm sure a few others on here would too. Those caps you posted a while back looked great. Pretty please!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on June 28, 2003, 04:22:59 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
I think the fucking album is great, and swaggers in its own way. It's just that their specific way of writing "melody" takes a good amount of listens to find. But when you do, it's soooooo worth it.


Very true, first listen is just too overwhelming to get too much out of it.  After a few listens you pick up on the melodies that will not get out of your head.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on July 01, 2003, 04:14:30 PM
Favor time!!
I don't have MTV2 and would really dig seeing their whole 2 dollar bill concert thing....anyone know where i can come across a rip of it or something?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on July 01, 2003, 09:08:14 PM
Considering this thread is long enough to cover their last 2 albums, I fucked up and made a new thread....but you should check it out, 2 live acoustic sets and a small interview......here's the link
http://play.rbn.com/?url=livecon/kcrw/demand/mp3/mb030626Radiohead.mp3
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on July 05, 2003, 11:13:26 PM
<-------offically places Radiohead as #1 on his playlist.....for this week at least....

Here is some more content, videos, interview....

http://launch.yahoo.com/destinations/promotions/radiohead/
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on July 18, 2003, 01:49:43 PM
Okay all you Texans and Texas neighbors...

Tickets go on sale for the Houston show tomorrow... I just found this out because I always find shit out late.

Anybody want to meet there?  

I'm pretty psyched, this is the one band out of my favs list that I've never seen live.

So if any of you don't have anyone to go with or would like to meet there or after for coffee or some shit, let me know and maybe we'll see ya there.

I'm fuckin' psyched.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on July 18, 2003, 09:35:03 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Okay all you Texans and Texas neighbors...

Tickets go on sale for the Houston show tomorrow... I just found this out because I always find shit out late.

Anybody want to meet there?  

I'm pretty psyched, this is the one band out of my favs list that I've never seen live.

So if any of you don't have anyone to go with or would like to meet there or after for coffee or some shit, let me know and maybe we'll see ya there.

I'm fuckin' psyched.


If you consider California a Texas neighbor, I would be more than happy to buy ya a cup of "joe".....as I might end up doing the same thing tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on July 19, 2003, 01:03:35 PM
Word AJ!

I got my ticket... they went on sale at noon and I logged on at 12:08 and the entire front section was already sold out.

My seats aren't the best (oddly enough, the Ticketmaster system fucked up and I ended up with left section instead of center), but they're not out in the lawn or general admission, so I'm happy enough about getting to see them.

Either way, it's only an hour in to the sale and all that's left is the lawn.

Looking forward to the three hour drive.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Ghostboy on July 19, 2003, 01:06:40 PM
Hmmm. I wanted to go, but I don't want lawn tickets. Nothing's worse than having to use binoculars to watch a show. Damn my untimeliness. Oh well, it'll save me some money.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: European Son on July 19, 2003, 01:53:20 PM
It's been said before, and I'll say it again: Fuck Ticketmaster! They're the worst. Now if Waste doesn't come through on the 21st, I have to go the scalper route because I'm so anal and will only settle for Pit tickets to a Radiohead show. It's either Waste, or paying a couple hundred dollars for the ticket I want to this show. Please Waste please please please.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Victor on July 19, 2003, 03:22:01 PM
got tickets yesterday for the madison square garden show in october...the seats suck but i really dont give a shit, im going, thats the important thing. ticketmaster is such a bitch, youre right, but hell, its over now, the tickets are mine, and im going, and im not getting fucked over this time. fucking radiohead, man - gonna be the show of the year.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: xerxes on July 19, 2003, 04:04:32 PM
just wondering if anyone's going to one of the shows at the hollywood bowl... well???
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on July 19, 2003, 08:00:59 PM
I think the Houston show already sold out.  Fuck work.  Fuck it.  Fuck.  Work.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on July 19, 2003, 11:52:35 PM
I just checked and there are still tickets for the Lawn on the Houston show.

Beats not going... plus it's five whole bucks cheaper!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on July 19, 2003, 11:53:46 PM
I had lawn for Tool during the first Lateralus tour, it's not bad, but I still can't get the tickets through the net and the actual physical places are closed right now.  And uh...fuck work.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on July 19, 2003, 11:58:48 PM
i'm boycotting this tour.  fuck radiohead.  fuck ticketmaster.  and fuck these bullshit arenas/pavillions.  i'd rather not see them, than go in these circumstances.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on July 20, 2003, 12:14:32 AM
Quote from: xerxes
just wondering if anyone's going to one of the shows at the hollywood bowl... well???


If I go chances are it will be here....

So I got sucked into photographing a wedding today.....thus no tickets....luckly, I have a guy at work who supposely can get me tickets for anything, I am thinking now is a good time to see how full of shit he may be.....fuck, the things I do to watch and capture the pure form love takes on as a couple weds....yuck.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on July 24, 2003, 07:44:15 AM
Info about the next single, "Go to Sleep":
(http://www.ateaseweb.com/gotosleepcover.jpg)

Will feature the new b-side "I Am Citizen Insane" and a live version of the b-side "Fog" (previously on the Knives Out single). It will be released August 18th.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on July 24, 2003, 08:04:17 AM
Christ, can't they keep a fucking title for that song?  It's one of their best
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on July 24, 2003, 02:16:59 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth
Christ, can't they keep a fucking title for that song?  It's one of their best


 :?:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on July 24, 2003, 06:15:27 PM
"No Surprises" and its use in L'Auberge espagnole is just fucking great. That music didn't leave for weeks after I saw the movie. It's still one of my faves
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on July 24, 2003, 08:22:16 PM
Quote from: Dirk
Quote from: tremolosloth
Christ, can't they keep a fucking title for that song?  It's one of their best


 :?:

  Oh nevermind, it was too early, I didn't read it right
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on July 24, 2003, 09:20:09 PM
Quote from: Dirk
and a live version of the b-side "Fog"


"the fog comes up from the sewers and glows... in... the dark..."

Sigh.

What a great song. I can't wait.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on July 24, 2003, 09:23:53 PM
Yeah... I love the vocal harmony when he says "glows" it's like a bursting pulse of...something...

One of my favorite songs ever, seriously.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on August 19, 2003, 11:16:44 AM
Four new b-sides (http://www.fe4r.net/areminder/gts.htm) from the Go to Sleep singles.

EDIT - you may have to change file type to .mp3 because they are currently in .m3p format

EDIT #2 - yes, write .mp3 at the end of the file name. Fog is incredible, but the others...dunno about those yet.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on August 19, 2003, 11:32:48 AM
I'm so weak and easily tempted but I'm going to blame Dirk
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on August 19, 2003, 11:43:48 AM
those files are too big anyway, 8meg for a 3min song? no thanks.

it's the principle of the thing.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on August 19, 2003, 11:46:45 AM
Fog Live is my least favorite...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on August 19, 2003, 07:09:32 PM
Yeah, the live version of Fog is a little weak. You can't force a conventional rhythm on that song.

Wickid Child is very good... sounds like Go To Sleep. I can't remember hearing a harmonica in a Radiohead song.

Gagging Order is creepy in the same way that most of the album is...

But doesn't this all kind of seem like a return to OK Computer, thematically?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on August 20, 2003, 04:40:10 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
But doesn't this all kind of seem like a return to OK Computer, thematically?

sort of. they've kinda been spiralling since then.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on August 20, 2003, 12:09:44 PM
Can anybody find a non-streaming version of the Go to Sleep video? Pleeeeaase?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: jokerspath on August 29, 2003, 12:19:00 PM
From www.spinwithagrin.co.uk
This Radiohead site had fans submit questions to be answered by the band.  Someone (for some reason this answer isn't attributed specifically to anyone, though Thom did most of the answers at the beginning) mentions Magnolia randomly.  

SUBMITTED BY: HSNNHAL HSNNHAL from Hong Kong
 
QUESTION:  
Many artists have been involved in making music for movies, like Bono for "Million Dollar Hotel", Bjork "Dancer in the Dark"....... Have you ever thought of producing a movie and the music to it? Any other parts of the movie production process you're interested in?
 
ANSWER:  
I've just got back from Park City, Utah, where the Sundance Film Festival was held. I saw Jamie Thrave's " the low down ", and also Jonathan Glazer's " Sexy Beast ", ( en route, not at the festival ). I went to see " Scratch ", about turntablism, but they gave our tickets away! So it was frustrating to see film because of the demand and small seating numbers. So I spent most of the days learning how to snowboard, which involved falling on my arse alot...The good stuff that came out was meeting film makers and music supervisors ( they put film makers and musicians together in a matchmaking kind of way), and letting people know we were interested in cool projects. It's such a time consuming and completely different field that I don't think we'd ever do anything in the ' production ' thing...but it's true that a screenwriter often has the soundtrack in their head when they write a cool movie, like Anderson's ( i think ) " Magnolia ", and if we were in their head and we liked the idea, then that would be great. What we hated was being tacked on to some soundtrack to an ' action ' movie that would include, say, the Cardigans (no disrepect ), or whoever would appeal to a middle america demographic to sell cds and bums on seats. I know Jonny is interested in doing some scoring, but again the time commitment is a big deal, so maybe a strong short would be a good first experience. Ed thought that it would be interesting having to work to someone else's vision - the director - since we've never done that, and that could be an interesting discipline. Or maybe a nightmare!

===

Just thought some people might like that...

aw
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on August 29, 2003, 02:18:17 PM
Thanks joker, I really liked that. ::rubs shoulder::
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on September 26, 2003, 07:26:43 AM
I can't move....think, or process anything.  took me what seemed like 3 hours to find this damn thread....

2nd encore=
Karma Police
Everything in it's right place.

need sleep, must get up in 2 hours...and find a ticket for tonight.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on September 26, 2003, 11:42:13 AM
I saw them Aug 23, here was their setlist

2+2=5
Sit Down.Stand Up.
Where I End & You Begin
Kid A
Backdrifts
Lucky
Paranoid Android
We Suck Young Blood
Fake Plastic Trees
Go To Sleep
Sail To the Moon
Just
Scatterbrain
Idioteque
No Surprises
The Gloaming
There There

Encore 1

You and Whose Army?
The National Anthem
Myxomatosis
Street Spirit (fade out)

Encore 2

Karma Police
Everything In Its Right Place

PS> Hail to the Thief gets better and better with every listen, it might be edging closer to my favorite from radiohead.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on September 26, 2003, 01:16:01 PM
the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops, the rain drops, the rain drops, the rain drops. the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops,the rain drops.

yes, I can't think, nor process a thing.  But what a fuckin' great way to end a set.  They played too much from Hail to the Thief thou...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on October 02, 2003, 11:50:27 AM
Saw them last night at the cynthia woods pavillion...best live show ive ever seen
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on October 02, 2003, 01:53:05 PM
Hey Pedro,

I was there too.
Where were your seats?

and yes, it's one of the best concerts I've ever been to.
I was sick and had to drive three hours alone on some backwoods path that I had never driven before, but it was amazing.  Once they started playing, I didn't feel sick anymore... I think that concert could have woken me from a coma.  

Had to drive three hours back and go to work this morning and now I feel like I might cough out one of my lungs, but I can't stop thinking about how fucking great that show was.

Jesus, The Gloaming ruled everything!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 02, 2003, 02:48:52 PM
The Gloaming?  I hate that song!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on October 02, 2003, 06:42:37 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Hey Pedro,

I was there too.
Where were your seats?

and yes, it's one of the best concerts I've ever been to.
I was sick and had to drive three hours alone on some backwoods path that I had never driven before, but it was amazing.  Once they started playing, I didn't feel sick anymore... I think that concert could have woken me from a coma.  

Had to drive three hours back and go to work this morning and now I feel like I might cough out one of my lungs, but I can't stop thinking about how fucking great that show was.

Jesus, The Gloaming ruled everything!

Row J seat 21. Dead Center. Don't know how my dad caught the deal he did for those, but he did.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Alexandro on October 03, 2003, 10:12:11 AM
Quote from: Pedro the Wombat
Quote from: RegularKarate
Hey Pedro,

I was there too.
Where were your seats?

and yes, it's one of the best concerts I've ever been to.
I was sick and had to drive three hours alone on some backwoods path that I had never driven before, but it was amazing.  Once they started playing, I didn't feel sick anymore... I think that concert could have woken me from a coma.  

Had to drive three hours back and go to work this morning and now I feel like I might cough out one of my lungs, but I can't stop thinking about how fucking great that show was.

Jesus, The Gloaming ruled everything!

Row J seat 21. Dead Center. Don't know how my dad caught the deal he did for those, but he did.


I was there too...had to drive like 8 or 9 hours from mexico, and i risked losing my job but it was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay worth it....the best concert i've ever seen...the ending was perfect...i would have lost this job and other ten just like this one to see that show...

I was on the lawn..by the way...a friend told me at the end: "look at all these faces filled with satisfaction"...never seen so many before...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 04, 2003, 11:18:14 AM
Radiohead protests Q

When is an honor not an honor? Ask Radiohead. The British rock band on Thursday was named "best act in the world today" for the third consecutive year by readers of Q magazine, England's rough equivalent of Rolling Stone.

Members of the group, however, refused to attend the awards ceremony and sent a silent video in their place. The video showed the words "Radiohead are not talking to Q" across the bottom of the screen, in response to a Q review of the group labeling it "miserable."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on October 04, 2003, 12:28:26 PM
I am still in awe that I saw these guys, and for free no less.  I really wish I coulda scored tickets for the 2nd night thou.  Oh, well, I shouldn't complain.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on October 05, 2003, 12:54:36 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Radiohead protests Q

When is an honor not an honor? Ask Radiohead. The British rock band on Thursday was named "best act in the world today" for the third consecutive year by readers of Q magazine, England's rough equivalent of Rolling Stone.

Members of the group, however, refused to attend the awards ceremony and sent a silent video in their place. The video showed the words "Radiohead are not talking to Q" across the bottom of the screen, in response to a Q review of the group labeling it "miserable."


I don't get it.

So... miserable in what way?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on October 05, 2003, 05:40:47 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Radiohead protests Q

When is an honor not an honor? Ask Radiohead. The British rock band on Thursday was named "best act in the world today" for the third consecutive year by readers of Q magazine, England's rough equivalent of Rolling Stone.

Members of the group, however, refused to attend the awards ceremony and sent a silent video in their place. The video showed the words "Radiohead are not talking to Q" across the bottom of the screen, in response to a Q review of the group labeling it "miserable."


According to ateaseweb.com:

Jonny Greenwood was on the official board last night. Someone asked what the message to the Q Awards read. Jonny: "that would be interesting to know.... well, they wrote it not us. we didn't send anything this time....

In other news, Radiohead will be on both Conan O'Brien and David Letterman on Oct. 17th.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on October 09, 2003, 01:07:32 AM
according to me, I am still singin' this shit my head.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 09, 2003, 03:05:05 AM
http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/7638.htm
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 09, 2003, 03:43:16 AM
Quote from: that article
"I think they're boring," offers Erin Franzman, 27, an AOL city entertainment guide editor.

"To me, their last good song was 'Creep' because that was the last song that had a hook and was short."


Stop right there!


You're fired
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on October 09, 2003, 07:28:51 AM
Details (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/03-10/09.shtml) of the new 2 + 2 =5 single and DVD coming out on November 10th.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 09, 2003, 07:34:02 AM
How can they play Conan on a Saturday

I know the shows are pretaped, but that doesn't exactly make sense taping on saturday and waiting for Monday to tape Tuesday's episode and ahhhh my head
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: bonanzataz on October 09, 2003, 06:32:16 PM
so, is anybody going to msg tomorrow night? got an extra ticket? i'll be at madison square garden with a bunch of other assholes holding up a big sign begging for a miracle. that's how i saw pdl a month before its release, so i figure it'll work here. GIMME YO TIXXXXX!!!!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Victor on October 11, 2003, 10:37:26 PM
taz, did you get in or what? i didnt see you there. i went, it was fucking insane, everything i expected and more. best show ive ever seen and one of the best nights of my life.

Regular, how fucking sick was that new, souped-up version of The Gloaming? Its still in my head now.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 12, 2003, 01:18:08 AM
GOD DAMNIT THEY WON'T BE ON CONAN, JUST LETTERMAN

Someone tell me about the souped up version of the Gloaming
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: bonanzataz on October 12, 2003, 03:48:01 PM
Quote from: Victor
taz, did you get in or what? i didnt see you there.


 :yabbse-thumbdown:

i ended up not going. most my friends were retaking SAT's the next day and nobody wanted to go and i didn't feel like getting ripped off (last show i went to i got a fake ticket. it sucked, even if i ended up getting in anyway). were there a lot of people out there with signs looking for tickets, or would i have been the only one?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 12, 2003, 06:16:20 PM
hey, does anyone else remember when radiohead used to be good?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Ghostboy on October 12, 2003, 06:18:17 PM
Yeah, definitely. I somtimes reminisce to those Pablo Honey/Bends days, right before they became great.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: freakerdude on October 12, 2003, 07:34:07 PM
Ok, I am going to get an ass kicking for this.

I first heard Creep when it came out and loved it. Then I heard all these raving reviews of OK Computer and Radiohead in general. I decided to buy Kid A as my first album and was kind of dissapointed but it eventually grew on me and I like it. Then I bought OK Computer, and well, I have to say it is almost unbearable to listen to. I find it very slow and boring and I like all types of music except country and most classical.

My range is from Robert Johnson 1937 blues, jazz, reggae, old rock like Hendrix, Led Zep, Allman Brothers Band, pop like Bjork and Fiona Apple, NIN, Smashing Pumpkins, and all the way up to Tool/Godsmack/System Of A Down. I am very diverse but don't see OK Computer as being that great of an album like the reviews said.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on October 12, 2003, 07:51:27 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy
Yeah, definitely. I somtimes reminisce to those Pablo Honey/Bends days, right before they became great.


Well put.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on October 12, 2003, 11:22:14 PM
Quote from: freakerdude
Ok, I am going to get an ass kicking for this.

I first heard Creep when it came out and loved it. Then I heard all these raving reviews of OK Computer and Radiohead in general. I decided to buy Kid A as my first album and was kind of dissapointed but it eventually grew on me and I like it. Then I bought OK Computer, and well, I have to say that it is unbearable to even listen to.

My range is from Robert Johnson 1937 blues, jazz, reggae, and all the way up to Tool/Godsmack/System Of A Down. I am very diverse but don't see OK Computer as being that great album like the reviews said.



WOW, to me...that is music at it's perfection.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 13, 2003, 01:01:41 AM
Quote from: Dirk
Quote from: Ghostboy
Yeah, definitely. I somtimes reminisce to those Pablo Honey/Bends days, right before they became great.


Well put.


yea.  but unfortunately it couldnt last forever, and they started to suck.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 13, 2003, 08:06:20 AM
Honestly they should take a cue from the Strokes and never evolve musically.  Just my opinion
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 13, 2003, 11:47:38 AM
Quote from: tremolosloth
Honestly they should take a cue from the Strokes and never evolve musically.  Just my opinion


because amnesiac was a real evolution from kid a?  but, seriously they could take a cue from the strokes and try to write a catchy song someone could remember again.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 13, 2003, 11:52:03 AM
Amnesiac was released less than a year from Kid A, and yes, there was more to it than Kid A.  As far as catchy goes, well, I remember a lot of bad songs too.  A lot.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on October 13, 2003, 11:59:48 AM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: tremolosloth
Honestly they should take a cue from the Strokes and never evolve musically.  Just my opinion


because amnesiac was a real evolution from kid a?  but, seriously they could take a cue from the strokes and try to write a catchy song someone could remember again.


I think Myxamatosis is very catchy.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Newtron on October 13, 2003, 12:00:23 PM
Is this Radiohead Vs The Strokes, or Trem Vs themodernage?

'Cause either way, we all know there is only one Winner (^_^).
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 13, 2003, 12:19:48 PM
i didnt bring the strokes into this. and its more than a little silly to randomly compare two things that have nothing to do with each other.(matrix vs kill bill!) sure the beatles were great, but that doesnt make the ramones worthless.

newtron, have you seen the new strokes video?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on October 13, 2003, 05:32:13 PM
I don't understand why we're comparing a flash in the pan retro buzz group like the Strokes with Radiohead?

On the subject of Radiohead: does anyone here watch Adult Swim?  If you do, did you watch it last night (Sunday)?  Do you know what the deal was with them showing the setlist for the Atlanta Radiohead concert?  I know that people that run Adult Swim and Space Ghost and stuff are based out of Atlanta.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 13, 2003, 06:58:58 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
I don't understand why we're comparing a flash in the pan retro buzz group like the Strokes with Radiohead?


I think Radiohead are at least as "retro" as The Strokes, but they seem to have a penchant for interpreting their prog-rock and jazz influences in the most dreary, self-indulgent, dull manner possible. They cultivate a lifeless, muttered sound and dour, crabby image. Hence, they're about 1/10 the fun of the Strokes.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 13, 2003, 07:14:52 PM
I can't believe you listen to Radiohead and expect to party hard.  Was Creep misleading you from the start?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 13, 2003, 07:17:45 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth
I can't believe you listen to Radiohead and expect to party hard.  Was Creep misleading you from the start?


I never listen to anything with the expectation of, um, "partying hard." Not even Pulp's "Party Hard." How did you derive that from what I said?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 13, 2003, 07:19:11 PM
Your final verdict seems to be entirely aesthetic-based (and a shallow one at that).  Please prove me wrong, Smiths Sage
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on October 13, 2003, 07:21:29 PM
This is the Strokes:  "La La La Every song sounds the same LA LA LA"

This is Radiohead: "BAM!!! Welcome to real music, bitch!"

they really shouldn't be compared though... who's lame brain idea was this?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 13, 2003, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth
Your final verdict seems to be entirely aesthetic-based (and a shallow one at that).  Please prove me wrong, Smiths Sage


You must explain further what you mean by "shallow." What are your verdicts based on? Do you think it's shallow to have an aesthetic (broad, broad term that) standard to which you hold music and things?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 13, 2003, 07:30:31 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
This is the Strokes:  "La La La Every song sounds the same LA LA LA"

This is Radiohead: "BAM!!! Welcome to real music, bitch!"

they really shouldn't be compared though... who's lame brain idea was this?


I brought it up after themodernage02 insisted that Radiohead sucked.

Quote from: godardian
Quote from: tremolosloth
Your final verdict seems to be entirely aesthetic-based (and a shallow one at that).  Please prove me wrong, Smiths Sage


You must explain further what you mean by "shallow." What are your verdicts based on? Do you think it's shallow to have an aesthetic (broad, broad term that) standard to which you hold music and things?


Different music (or any art really) has to be approached differently.  By shallow I meant that you called the Radiohead catalogue a dull and dreary channeling of prog rock and jazz (OKC computer I can see as being prog rock, a few scattered songs here and there can be jazz, but there's so much MORE, and I find Pablo Honey and The Bends to be dull now that they've grown so much).  Besides, I'm reading this as you are completely ignoring the vocals?  And I do like the Strokes, I was merely countering Modern's useless post with another one
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 13, 2003, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
This is the Strokes:  "La La La Every song sounds the same LA LA LA"

This is Radiohead: "BAM!!! Welcome to real music, bitch!"

they really shouldn't be compared though... who's lame brain idea was this?


To me, every Radiohead song sounds the same:

"Drrooooooooooooooone" (insert fractured trumpet) (insert post-anesthetic muttering) (insert drum loops), then more "droooooooone."

If you can't be bothered to come up with a tune, you shouldn't be making pop music. The Strokes have tunes and, I think, some semblance of energy and joy in making their music. Radiohead have long since abandoned the former and apparently no longer have any aspiration to the latter

I don't think pop music should sound and be spoken of as if it were drudgery to make. And when pop music is drudgery to LISTEN to, well...  :evil:

Any argument that Radiohead are somehow not "pop" music will be ignored, as my mind and ears do not tolerate nitpicking little categories. Metallica is pop, Skeeter Davis is pop, Noel Coward is pop, Limp Bizkit is pop, etc. I believe other distinctions are pointless.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 13, 2003, 07:42:57 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth

Besides, I'm reading this as you are completely ignoring the vocals?  


No. The muttering was well covered (I never understood why anyone would think Michael Stipe was muttering his lyrics... but if anyone were to say that of Thom Yorke, I would understand completely). I also have to say that, even though 80% of what I love has been dismissed as "whining" at some point by one ignoramus or another, I have rarely heard something come so close to exactly that as Thom Yorke's resentful-infant-in-a-bath-of-ice-water voice moaning about... well, what? Maybe if he had an interesting, intelligible lyric...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 13, 2003, 07:46:21 PM
I like that though, it sounds like a lost child and gives off a sort of paranoia/fear
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 13, 2003, 07:53:41 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth
I like that though, it sounds like a lost child and gives off a sort of paranoia/fear


Well, then it is precisely a difference of subjective reaction between you and I, then.  :)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 13, 2003, 08:08:56 PM
Quote from: godardian
If you can't be bothered to come up with a tune, you shouldn't be making pop music. The Strokes have tunes and, I think, some semblance of energy and joy in making their music. Radiohead have long since abandoned the former and apparently no longer have any aspiration to the latter.


i completely agree with this.  but i'lll think twice next time before i go stirring up the hornets nest.  especially when that nest is the radiohead nazis.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 13, 2003, 08:10:23 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: godardian
If you can't be bothered to come up with a tune, you shouldn't be making pop music. The Strokes have tunes and, I think, some semblance of energy and joy in making their music. Radiohead have long since abandoned the former and apparently no longer have any aspiration to the latter.


i completely agree with this.  but i'lll think twice next time before i go stirring up the hornets nest.  especially when that nest is the radiohead nazis.


I completely disagree.  You don't get to tell someone how they should or shouldn't make their art.  And that's all the nazi propoganda I'm going to say
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pas on October 13, 2003, 08:58:55 PM
The Smiths vs Radiohead would be even more fun and even less relevant.

I go with Morrissey ! Ohh Mother, I can feel, the soil falling over my head...god I love this song.

I just bought chicken flavored potato chips and they taste like shit. I hate myself.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 13, 2003, 09:02:01 PM
I love you Pas
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 13, 2003, 09:02:53 PM
Quote from: Pas Rapport


I go with Morrissey !


Me, too... obviously.  :lol:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: bonanzataz on October 13, 2003, 11:38:47 PM
dude, morrisey's fuckin' awesome. they did a whole thing on vh1 classics (best channel ever) on the smiths and morrisey's got some killer dance moves, let me tell you that.

for all you haters, however, radiohead strikes a chord with me. the music just clicks when i hear it (for the most part). i can listen to a radiohead song and have it stuck in my head for days, so anybody saying that radiohead isn't catchy just doesn't get it. which isn't an insult. i don't really get fellini films. i know for most here, that would make me the crazy one. maybe i just have to watch them more. whatever, that's beside the point. all i'm saying is, different strokes for different folks.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 14, 2003, 12:28:28 AM
did you just say the strokes!??!?!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pas on October 14, 2003, 07:43:02 AM
Quote from: bonanzataz
dude, morrisey's fuckin' awesome. they did a whole thing on vh1 classics (best channel ever) on the smiths and morrisey's got some killer dance moves, let me tell you that.

for all you haters, however, radiohead strikes a chord with me. the music just clicks when i hear it (for the most part). i can listen to a radiohead song and have it stuck in my head for days, so anybody saying that radiohead isn't catchy just doesn't get it. which isn't an insult. i don't really get fellini films. i know for most here, that would make me the crazy one. maybe i just have to watch them more. whatever, that's beside the point. all i'm saying is, different strokes for different folks.


Not only those he have the moves, he has the tunes. I hope someday his lyrics will be more respected. Not a single uncool teen should live without listening to the Smiths, the suicide rate would go down instantly. Or maybe up, come to think of it...lyrics like :"I'm alone, I'm alone, I'm alone I'm alone I'm alone and I never, never had no one ever" can really make you want to stick a gun to your head. Especially with Morrissey's voice. Hummm...

As for Radiohead and lack of catchy songs, if we only need a single counter-example, then let's just name Karma Police. Here, debate over.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Alexandro on October 14, 2003, 09:48:59 AM
Radiohead wants to make pop. They said it them themselves. But they can't. They're too smart, their music and lyrics are too inteligent and filled with substance to be pop. Björk has the same problem, she's too smart for pop.

Pop is stupid and fun, most of the time (boy bands, britney, strokes), and sometimes it's something more crafted (coldplay, metallica, white stripes)...and sometimes is just something too fucking cool to be pop, like radiohead and björk and the flaming lips and air...

or sometimes is something so chamaleonic it's impossible to tell: david bowie...beck...ween
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: moonshiner on October 14, 2003, 10:31:45 AM
genre is a prison
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Newtron on October 14, 2003, 10:43:39 AM
Quote from: Alexandro
Radiohead wants to make pop. They said it them themselves. But they can't. They're too smart, their music and lyrics are too inteligent and filled with substance to be pop. Björk has the same problem, she's too smart for pop.

Pop is stupid and fun, most of the time (boy bands, britney, strokes), and sometimes it's something more crafted (coldplay, metallica, white stripes)...and sometimes is just something too fucking cool to be pop, like radiohead and björk and the flaming lips and air...

or sometimes is something so chamaleonic it's impossible to tell: david bowie...beck...ween


(http://www.kidlink.org/icons/kidwriters/correct.gif)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 14, 2003, 11:24:41 AM
Quote from: Pas Rapport
Not a single uncool teen should live without listening to the Smiths, the suicide rate would go down instantly. Or maybe up, come to think of it...lyrics like :"I'm alone, I'm alone, I'm alone I'm alone I'm alone and I never, never had no one ever" can really make you want to stick a gun to your head. Especially with Morrissey's voice. Hummm...


While I applaud any compliment given to the Best Band (and undoubtedly best lyricist) of our lifetimes, I would hasten to point out that Morrissey, despite the smears against him, is NOT some suicidal miserablist. He acknowledges that aspect and is capable of finding both the tenderness and the humor of human frailty and futility. I find The Smiths at their best when simultaneously very pointed, poignant, adamant, and skeptical: "Girl Afraid," "Panic," "Sheila Take a Bow," "Some Girls are Bigger Than Others." If a Morrissey lyric has never made you laugh- in amazement, in complicity, in recognition- then you're missing a very important part of what makes him so great. He's not just some sad sack- he is more than capable of looking at the world outside his window and the funny people (all of us) who occupy it, and he has a brilliant, unparalleled knack for articulating what he sees.

There is a thread for all this:

http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=960&start=15

not to mention:

http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=2390&start=15
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pas on October 14, 2003, 11:37:30 AM
Quote from: Alexandro
Radiohead wants to make pop. They said it them themselves. But they can't. They're too smart, their music and lyrics are too inteligent and filled with substance to be pop. Björk has the same problem, she's too smart for pop.

Pop is stupid and fun, most of the time (boy bands, britney, strokes), and sometimes it's something more crafted (coldplay, metallica, white stripes)...and sometimes is just something too fucking cool to be pop, like radiohead and björk and the flaming lips and air...

or sometimes is something so chamaleonic it's impossible to tell: david bowie...beck...ween


This is one of the most condescent post I've read here. Congrats.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 14, 2003, 11:58:51 AM
Quote from: moonshiner
genre is a prison


 :kiss:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 14, 2003, 01:15:48 PM
Quote from: Pas Rapport
As for Radiohead and lack of catchy songs, if we only need a single counter-example, then let's just name Karma Police. Here, debate over.


i cant speak for anyone else, but when i mentioned no catchy songs, i was referring to a post-okcomputer radiohead.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Alexandro on October 14, 2003, 02:03:54 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: Pas Rapport
As for Radiohead and lack of catchy songs, if we only need a single counter-example, then let's just name Karma Police. Here, debate over.


i cant speak for anyone else, but when i mentioned no catchy songs, i was referring to a post-okcomputer radiohead.


well, i've been unable to take out "the gloaming" from my head in the last two weeks... and i mean uneable...


for the whole albums are catchy...although i don¿t think that's what they're aiming at, really...what's so great about having a catchy song??
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on October 14, 2003, 02:29:39 PM
Yeah... this whole "Radiohead has no catchy songs thing" is BS.

My wife (who is a fan of a lot of pop and shows no favortisms outside of Loretta Lynn) has been caught singing Myxamatosis, Idioteque, and various other post-OKComputer songs, though she has a preference for The Bends.  She is a good example (because as a hardcore Radiohead fan, I am not a good example) of someone who finds thier songs to be "catchy".
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 14, 2003, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Yeah... this whole "Radiohead has no catchy songs thing" is BS.

My wife (who is a fan of a lot of pop and shows no favortisms outside of Loretta Lynn) has been caught singing Myxamatosis, Idioteque, and various other post-OKComputer songs, though she has a preference for The Bends.  She is a good example (because as a hardcore Radiohead fan, I am not a good example) of someone who finds thier songs to be "catchy".


Idioteque is catchy, but I find it to be quite the exception. I'm with Mrs. Karate on The Bends being premium Radiohead.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on October 14, 2003, 03:28:37 PM
Everything In It's Right Place
Packt Like Sardines...
Optimistic
Morning Bell
There There
A Punchup At A Wedding


all sit in my head for days after listening... I find myself constantly humming and singing them

catchy as hell

but only after listen no. 3....
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on October 14, 2003, 04:54:40 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
but only after listen no. 3....

this is the reason that so many hate radiohead...alot of people, and im not saying godardian or anyone here, but a lot of people think that any music that takes more than one listen to fully grasp is shit.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 14, 2003, 05:30:03 PM
Quote from: Alexandro
Radiohead wants to make pop. They said it them themselves. But they can't. They're too smart, their music and lyrics are too inteligent and filled with substance to be pop. Björk has the same problem, she's too smart for pop.

Pop is stupid and fun, most of the time (boy bands, britney, strokes), and sometimes it's something more crafted (coldplay, metallica, white stripes)...and sometimes is just something too fucking cool to be pop, like radiohead and björk and the flaming lips and air...

or sometimes is something so chamaleonic it's impossible to tell: david bowie...beck...ween

well, i've been unable to take out "the gloaming" from my head in the last two weeks... and i mean uneable...

for the whole albums are catchy...although i don¿t think that's what they're aiming at, really...what's so great about having a catchy song??


why is pop supposed to be stupid?  radiohead are too smart to write a handful of good songs to insert their techno-blips into now?

boy bands, britney and strokes?  yeah okay.  if the boy bands you're reffering to are the beatles, the kinks, the ramones, the smiths, etc. then, maybe i can see where you are coming from.  too cool for pop?  what the hell are you talking about?

the gloaming is everything terrible about the "new" radiohead.  bullshit blip beeps droning staticy non-song.  that fucking studio noise belongs on the cutting room floor, and its the new radiohead that is too smart to see that. and okay, its not so much about being supremely catchy, but how about just a listenable tune?  the gloaming is not exactly hummable.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 14, 2003, 05:53:16 PM
Even I don't like the Gloaming
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pas on October 14, 2003, 06:39:05 PM
Quote from: themodernage02

why is pop supposed to be stupid?  radiohead are too smart to write a handful of good songs to insert their techno-blips into now?

boy bands, britney and strokes?  yeah okay.  if the boy bands you're reffering to are the beatles, the kinks, the ramones, the smiths, etc. then, maybe i can see where you are coming from.  too cool for pop?  what the hell are you talking about?

the gloaming is everything terrible about the "new" radiohead.  bullshit blip beeps droning staticy non-song.  that fucking studio noise belongs on the cutting room floor, and its the new radiohead that is too smart to see that. and okay, its not so much about being supremely catchy, but how about just a listenable tune?  the gloaming is not exactly hummable.


I completly agree with that.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: moonshiner on October 14, 2003, 07:28:31 PM
pop music is a prison
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 14, 2003, 07:30:36 PM
Quote from: moonshiner
pop music is a prison


Like all culture, pop and otherwise, it is both prison and liberation.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: moonshiner on October 14, 2003, 07:40:43 PM
Quote from: godardian
Like all culture, pop and otherwise, it is both prison and liberation.


and in everything listed, there is beauty...including Radiohead songs
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 14, 2003, 07:49:39 PM
Quote from: moonshiner
Quote from: godardian
Like all culture, pop and otherwise, it is both prison and liberation.


and in everything listed there is beauty...including Radiohead songs


I'm really not sure that follows.

Would JC be Cocteau, not Christ?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: moonshiner on October 14, 2003, 08:12:13 PM
Quote from: godardian
Would JC be Cocteau, not Christ?


no, that is a poem of mine, i'm neither Christ nor Cocteau, although the latter seemed quite prolific.....

about my previous post, i put in a comma that may make my point more clear, you will probably disagree just the same
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pas on October 14, 2003, 08:21:22 PM
Quote from: moonshiner
pop music is a prison


It almost makes me miss Alguien. Almost.

You are emprisoning yourself if you make sure you don't listen to a particular genre. I hate talking about that kind of shit. There's always a newborn intellectual to try to shit on your head cause he hasn't figured out who he is yet. But I forgive, I was, and still am sometimes, like this too.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 14, 2003, 08:30:42 PM
Quote from: Pas Rapport
Quote from: moonshiner
pop music is a prison


It almost makes me miss Alguien. Almost.

You are emprisoning yourself if you make sure you don't listen to a particular genre. I hate talking about that kind of shit. There's always a newborn intellectual to try to shit on your head cause he hasn't figured out who he is yet. But I forgive, I was, and still am sometimes, like this too.


Yeah what the fuck man, on the othe page you said "genre is a prison" and I almost loved you
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: moonshiner on October 14, 2003, 08:41:00 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth
Yeah what the fuck man, on the othe page you said "genre is a prison" and I almost loved you


almost? where have i wavered?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 14, 2003, 09:42:17 PM
Quote from: Pas Rapport


It almost makes me miss Alguien. Almost.


Bite.

Your.

Tongue!!

 :lol:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on October 14, 2003, 09:58:46 PM
If genre is a prison, and pop music is a genre, and pop music is a prison... then you're building the prison.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 14, 2003, 10:31:21 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
If genre is a prison, and pop music is a genre, and pop music is a prison... then you're building the prison.


(http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/timeline/images/1932/inmates_yard.jpg)

then i guess that makes me an inmate!  :-D
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: freakerdude on October 15, 2003, 04:55:16 AM
I was looking through the Kid A CD and didn't see any credits for the sleeve artwork. Does anyone know who might have done this? OK Computer has credits for pictures and artwork but nothing on here. Just curious since they both look like the same person's involvment or work.

Thanks
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on October 15, 2003, 08:19:02 AM
Quote from: freakerdude
I was looking through the Kid A CD and didn't see any credits for the sleeve artwork. Does anyone know who might have done this? OK Computer has credits for pictures and artwork but nothing on here. Just curious since they both look like the same person's involvment or work.

Thanks


Kid A should have one. The fold out sleeve is a little complex but it's in there somewhere..
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: freakerdude on October 15, 2003, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: Dirk
Kid A should have one. The fold out sleeve is a little complex but it's in there somewhere..

The very limited credits are there but none for artwork or graphics. The only text is in the longest foldout.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Alexandro on October 15, 2003, 04:09:13 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: Alexandro
Radiohead wants to make pop. They said it them themselves. But they can't. They're too smart, their music and lyrics are too inteligent and filled with substance to be pop. Björk has the same problem, she's too smart for pop.

Pop is stupid and fun, most of the time (boy bands, britney, strokes), and sometimes it's something more crafted (coldplay, metallica, white stripes)...and sometimes is just something too fucking cool to be pop, like radiohead and björk and the flaming lips and air...

or sometimes is something so chamaleonic it's impossible to tell: david bowie...beck...ween

well, i've been unable to take out "the gloaming" from my head in the last two weeks... and i mean uneable...

for the whole albums are catchy...although i don¿t think that's what they're aiming at, really...what's so great about having a catchy song??


why is pop supposed to be stupid?  radiohead are too smart to write a handful of good songs to insert their techno-blips into now?

boy bands, britney and strokes?  yeah okay.  if the boy bands you're reffering to are the beatles, the kinks, the ramones, the smiths, etc. then, maybe i can see where you are coming from.  too cool for pop?  what the hell are you talking about?

the gloaming is everything terrible about the "new" radiohead.  bullshit blip beeps droning staticy non-song.  that fucking studio noise belongs on the cutting room floor, and its the new radiohead that is too smart to see that. and okay, its not so much about being supremely catchy, but how about just a listenable tune?  the gloaming is not exactly hummable.


I didn't mean to insult anyone...I said stupid AND fun...stupid is not bad at all. By stupid I meant that it doesn't really represent any kind of challenge to the listener...it's easy going music for fun, that's all, not a lot of meaning into it, not a lot of message to it...just fun...I 'm not saying a person is better for listening to this or that, but comparing Radiohead or I don't know, even Marilyn Manson 8which I don't like) to Christina Aguilera or the Backstreet Boys is like comparing a Dalí painting to a Bob Ross painting...they're both pretty, one is just smarter and has more ideas to it.

Boy Bands...well, as far as I'm concerned, The Beatles are not  a boy band...they're a rock band, a terrific one, who had their share of pop music but who also made a lot of more interseting and difficult material...with Boy Bands I was thinking more of N'Sync, you know?? I mean give me a break, I though you knew what a boy band really is. And please don't tell me N'Sync or Britney or any of those other guys are on the level of Radiohead, or better cause they have more catchy tunes...that's bullshit...music is about feelings, not about catchy tunes...

and in the end it's a matter of perspective...I know the gloaming is difficult to get...i didn't liked it the first maybe 20 times I listened to it...I was avoiding it when I listened to the album...then I listened to it live and I knew what it was about, and I got it and i learned to enjoyed it...now it's in my head...

for me, the best music is not the most catchy, or even the most complex compositions (which Radiohead CAN do by the way), it's about transmiting a feeling, creating an image in your head, an image that's different, something beyond the normal or the everyday stuff we usually listen...not that all the rest is crap...but there are lightbulbs and there are real bright stars...a great work of art demands the receiver to work a little too, not only the artist...


and about the artwork on kid a...I found this on book or magazzine (i don't know what it is) called Communication Arts, from february 2002...there's a picture of the Kid A cover in one page, and there'e a paragraph under it that says this: "Most of our campaigns begin with graphics from the cover and/or the package. Radiohead has broken ranks on their recent release, and I followed much of what was to follow on their Web Site and experimental video blips", said Tommy Steele of Capitol Records. Stanley & Tchock, landscapes/knives/glue.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 15, 2003, 04:33:10 PM
just because a song is difficult doesnt make it smart.   dont try to infuse a deeper meaning behind a song just because it sucks the first twenty times you listen to it, and then finally grows on you.  if dali started shitting on a canvas you would still probably think it was better than bob ross, but i wouldnt.  and by deifying radiohead, and thinking that they can do no wrong, you're refusing to acknowldedge a great band puts out shitty songs too.  no band is great forever.  

look, i like radiohead.  i used to LOVE radiohead.  but with the last two albums, the direction they're heading has completely turned me off from them.  kid a was an interesting experiment.  a cold album with no emotion.  but i didnt think that would be the direction they kept forging.  sure, theyre fucking around with more instruments in the studio, but they still need to wrap that around a decent song.  wilco, for example, will write a great listenable song, and then go into the studio and totally deconstruct it 100 different ways until it hardly resembles the original.  but, somehow it shows, that underneath all the sonic noise there is still a hummable tune.

and i would be interested to hear how metallica has more meaning behind their music than the strokes.  or the white stripes.  or coldplay. they're just songs man.  put all the secret meaning behind them that you want, but its just fucking pop music. i know what you meant by boy bands, but your catagories are that of your opinions and not of any real merit.  listen, it doesnt take any more talent to go into the studio and warble over some techno blips than it does to write a great 3 minute song.  i'm not saying that radiohead arent capable of being great again.  i'm just saying they are not living up to their potential.  fuck catchy, atleast how about an emotion again?  theres not one moment on any of the past three albums thats lives up to the operatic buildup and letdown of 'paranoid android'.  or the distilling quiet beauty of 'exit music'.  there just isnt.  and its a concious decision by the band.  

i didnt really intend on coming here to hate radiohead, cause i dont.  i was probably more obsessive about them a  few years ago than you are now.  i just wanted to vent a little about my disapointment.  and its not that i want them to be like they used to be. they dont have to make 'okcomputer pt 2'.  but its the fact that they've said hail to the theif IS okcomputer pt. 2, but doesnt even resemble it!  play around with different textures and sounds, but be listenable.  write good songs.  play interesting arrangements, and sing with some fire again.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Alexandro on October 15, 2003, 04:56:01 PM
I get you man...but our vision of radiohead is completely different from the very first moment, cause you think there's no emotion in their work anymore, and for me, ther are very few bands with the emotional power of radiohead espceially since ok computer...

so, you don't feel it, maybe a lot of people don't feel it...that doesn't mean radiohead sucks...

for me the greatest thing about radiohead or any other artist (and I said this before) is their honesty...they do as they feel, that's emotion..and Kid A wasn't cold at all, How To dessapear completely is one of the most moving songs I've ever listened to...but that's just me
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 15, 2003, 05:11:16 PM
(http://members.fortunecity.com/themodernage/radiohead.jpg)

Radiohead Remixes
Source: MTV.com

MC Thom Yorke? Not quite, but Radiohead are commissioning remixes for either an LP or EP due out next year, according to a band spokesperson. The group will get the hip-hop treatment by producer Madlib, the Los Angeles beat conductor who just released a Blue Note jazz remix album, Shades of Blue. Madlib was asked to work on the project by the band personally but had never heard Radiohead's music before. After a crash course, he chose the song "Sit Down. Stand Up" from Hail to the Thief. In addition to the Madlib remix, electronic producer Four Tet has taken on "Scatterbrain" for the project.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 15, 2003, 05:14:54 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
(http://members.fortunecity.com/themodernage/radiohead.jpg)

Radiohead Remixes
Source: MTV.com

MC Thom Yorke? Not quite, but Radiohead are commissioning remixes for either an LP or EP due out next year, according to a band spokesperson. The group will get the hip-hop treatment by producer Madlib, the Los Angeles beat conductor who just released a Blue Note jazz remix album, Shades of Blue. Madlib was asked to work on the project by the band personally but had never heard Radiohead's music before. After a crash course, he chose the song "Sit Down. Stand Up" from Hail to the Thief. In addition to the Madlib remix, electronic producer Four Tet has taken on "Scatterbrain" for the project.


Ugh. I am not fond of remixes.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: freakerdude on October 20, 2003, 05:05:08 AM
Quote from: godardian
Ugh. I am not fond of remixes.

Don't fret! Nobody can do it worse than Linkin Park's hideous remix.......a purely pitiful attempt to milk their debut.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on October 20, 2003, 08:27:58 AM
Quote from: freakerdude
Quote from: godardian
Ugh. I am not fond of remixes.

Don't fret! Nobody can do  worse than Linkin Park's

stop right there
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on October 20, 2003, 09:22:49 AM
Quote from: themodernage02
by deifying radiohead, and thinking that they can do no wrong, you're refusing to acknowldedge a great band puts out shitty songs too.


Wait... Pablo Honey already happened.

Quote from: themodernage02
i used to LOVE radiohead.  but with the last two albums, the direction they're heading has completely turned me off from them.


Amnesiac is probably my favorite Radiohead album, and I think they're getting better. The Bends is good, but the stuff I really love is their more experimental music. They couldn't be going in a better direction.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 28, 2003, 12:23:29 PM
this is pretty funny, has anyone else read this?

http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=1759
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 28, 2003, 12:31:06 PM
Oh great, now SA doesn't like stuff, what is the world coming to :x
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on October 28, 2003, 01:39:05 PM
This is a popular attitude lately... what a pathetic outlook, seriously.

I heard today that Thom Yorke announced to the AP that now that the contractual obligation with BMI has been met, Radiohead will most likely be releasing EPs from now on.  

I think that's plenty cool with me.

If I'm just stating something that everyone already knew, I'm sorry, sometimes I don't keep up fast enough.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 28, 2003, 01:42:20 PM
Don't take anything on SA seriously.  I hate that site, and not because they make fun of Radiohead, but it's that they make fun of EVERYTHING.  They have no stance.  The guy is proud that we don't know his favorite band and that it's apparently so underground and cool that we might not know it.  It's just a terrible site that is occasionally funny (the part about Don Henley made me laugh).
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 28, 2003, 01:44:10 PM
i didnt think he was really serious.  no one can be that elitist.  its not that i agree with that article, i just thought it was funny.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 28, 2003, 01:51:58 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
i didnt think he was really serious.  no one can be that elitist.  its not that i agree with that article, i just thought it was funny.


It was funny at first, but grew tiresome. He really doesn't have any point of view, other than that he doesn't like Radiohead. He's just being reactionary.

My own dislike of Radiohead has nothing to do with who does/doesn't like them, or really how popular they are. It's simply that I love pop music (a term Radiohead fall well within, see my previous thoughts on that), I feel like I know a little something about it, and I have my reasons, which I think are very good and almost exclusively musical ones, not to like them. It's not a big deal to me, because the band isn't a big deal to me. I guess I'd rather have kids listening to Radiohead than Limp Bizkit. But what they should REALLY be listening to is David Bowie, The Ramones, The Smiths, and anything that came out of Motown or the mind of Phil Spector between 1959 and 1965.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 28, 2003, 01:56:06 PM
During your argument I really like that you didn't even mention Thom until I brought it up.  It's good to see that you look into music for more than just vocals like most people do (not to blame them, I know it's the most relatable).  What I can't understand is why you have to do this pop music labeling.  Why can't you just drop that and enjoy music for what it is rather than some sort of structure you expect them to have?  It seems like you're blindfolding yourself.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 28, 2003, 02:19:49 PM
Quote from: Slobh
During your argument I really like that you didn't even mention Thom until I brought it up.  It's good to see that you look into music for more than just vocals like most people do (not to blame them, I know it's the most relatable).  What I can't understand is why you have to do this pop music labeling.  Why can't you just drop that and enjoy music for what it is rather than some sort of structure you expect them to have?  It seems like you're blindfolding yourself.


I actually like Thom Yorke, and I like his voice. I just don't like what he's been doing with it... why mutter and mumble and hiccup when you do have such a unique instrument?

My use of the term "pop" has been explained by me in detail, but here goes again: It's an inclusive term. There are different structures within it. But I think it's more blinding to say Radiohead is somehow less pop (and I don't mean popular, I mean Pop- mass-produced art, not "fine," one of a kind art) than, say Britney Spears, when you can find them side by side on the "top 25" at your local Tower Records. I like that level playing field. I don't think Radiohead are big offenders on this, but: I hate indie snobbery. I hate the idea that if something is harder to understand or shabbily produced because the band is poor, it automatically has more worth than something by someone who's been more accepted or wants more polish on what they're doing. Sometimes a little more polish is exactly right for the songs; sometimes a shabby sound is exactly right. But I hate those easy categories. Pop isn't an easy category; it's all music that's been mass-produced in the industrial and postindustrial age, because all of that music has been created for the express purpose of being mass-produced and sold, be it on a tiny local scale or a giant international scale, with an image attached (choosing "no image" or "no effort at an image" is still an image choice). And there's something of worth at both of those extremes and in between.

I do think that what Radiohead is doing is not interesting. That's an honest opinion. I like bands like Sonic Youth, the Jesus and Mary Chain, some stuff by Lush, some stuff by My Bloody Valentine, because they're able to stretch the boundaries of pop music without sacrificing warmth and personality to become these sterile, obfuscating experimentalists, as I feel Radiohead has done. I just don't feel like Radiohead is saying or doing anything very relevant or interesting, and those are the main two qualities I would list if I had to pin down what I expect from pop music. It doesn't always have to be compelling, life-changing, earth-shattering, though that's what it can be at its height; just relevant or interesting will do for me not to complain too much about it. But I don't think Radiohead as they have been for many years are doing that. Certainly, I agree with them politically, and with their suspicion of so many things; I just wish they had a more captivating way of putting it across.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on October 28, 2003, 02:22:49 PM
I may be odd, but Radiohead's music affects me more emotionally than any other band.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 28, 2003, 02:25:34 PM
Quote from: SHAFTR
I may be odd, but Radiohead's music affects me more emotionally than any other band.


Yes, me too.  When I first put in Kid A, and Everything In Its Right Place started, I just felt like I melted.  I didn't want to move, it was just slaying me.  By the time Kid A finished, I felt like crying...Motion Picture Soundtrack is so fucking sad.  Great finisher.  

Godardian, I guess this is where it just comes down to opinion.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 28, 2003, 02:28:32 PM
Quote from: Slobh
Quote from: SHAFTR
I may be odd, but Radiohead's music affects me more emotionally than any other band.


Yes, me too.  When I first put in Kid A, and Everything In Its Right Place started, I just felt like I melted.  I didn't want to move, it was just slaying me.  By the time Kid A finished, I felt like crying...Motion Picture Soundtrack is so fucking sad.  Great finisher.  

Godardian, I guess this is where it just comes down to opinion.


Yes... and as I've said before, I am moved by "Exit Music" and "How to Disappear Completely." Those moments are so isolated now, though... you get a whole album of it with The Bends, which is why that's my favorite Radiohead album...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on October 28, 2003, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate

I heard today that Thom Yorke announced to the AP that now that the contractual obligation with BMI has been met, Radiohead will most likely be releasing EPs from now on.  

 :? mm
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on October 28, 2003, 07:43:54 PM
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/7075881.htm

It was the AP so it's bound to be a lot of other places too.

Here's the part where he says the deal about the EPs:

During the backstage interview with The Associated Press, Yorke wriggled with delight as he explained that the band has just fulfilled its contract with Parlophone, a division of EMI Records.

"It's always been album, album, album," he says, adding that he believes the music business will be forced to change because the way people listen to music is changing.

"Things like iTunes and people splitting up tracks," he says. "I kind of think that's good. I listen to music on random all the time."

With the freedom to do anything, Yorke says he's unsure what the band will try next although it's unlikely to pound out another album. EPs are more likely.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: freakerdude on October 29, 2003, 04:20:33 PM
Quote from: Alexandro
and about the artwork on kid a...I found this on book or magazzine (i don't know what it is) called Communication Arts, from february 2002...there's a picture of the Kid A cover in one page, and there'e a paragraph under it that says this: "Most of our campaigns begin with graphics from the cover and/or the package. Radiohead has broken ranks on their recent release, and I followed much of what was to follow on their Web Site and experimental video blips", said Tommy Steele of Capitol Records. Stanley & Tchock, landscapes/knives/glue.
Landscapes, Knives, and Glue: Stanley & Tchock credit appears in the jacket but wasn't sure if that was it.

Thanks

FYI in Maxim's October issue , I came across this editors favorite RH albums:

OK Comp      5 stars
3 Bends        4 stars
Pablo Honey  3
Amnesiac      2
Kid A            1
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: classical gas on October 30, 2003, 04:34:23 AM
why is there so much competition about bands and who is better and so on?  i think music used to be a good thing, but now it's a battle ground.  the good music of our era serves one purpose: to destroy the pop shit we're fed every minute by mtv.  if it's different and original, it's all good in my book.  if you like a band, you like that band, but if you like nickelback or matchbox 20, i'll cut you.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on October 30, 2003, 05:21:21 PM
Full-page Richard Avedon photograph of Thom Yorke w/ Merce Cunningham and Jon Thor Birgisson of Sigur Ros on page 97 of today's New Yorker. Apparently, Cunningham has a show incorporating their music...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Gsus4 on November 05, 2003, 08:15:57 PM
httt: 14/14
am: 10/11
k: 9/10
okc: 11/12
b: 12/12
ph: 10/12

66/71 = 92.957746478873239436619718309859%

best band
easily
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 08, 2003, 03:03:23 AM
Stanley Donwood has done all the artwork for the band since The Bends.........Tchock is Thom......he does some of it too.........the won a grammy for best special packaging for the Amnesiac booklet

OK Computer is my favorite album of all time........it's opened so many other doors for me it's insane.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 08, 2003, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: bigideas
OK Computer is my favorite album of all time........it's opened so many other doors for me it's insane.


I just had a thought... OK Computer = Magnolia, HTTT = Punch-Drunk Love?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on November 08, 2003, 10:52:29 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: bigideas
OK Computer is my favorite album of all time........it's opened so many other doors for me it's insane.


I just had a thought... OK Computer = Magnolia, HTTT = Punch-Drunk Love?


Going with that, The Bends = Boogie Nights, Pablo Honey = Hard Eight
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 08, 2003, 10:28:17 PM
i'm not sure i'm getting you analogy.

do you mean Magnolia "opened some many doors for you...."

what about Kid A / Amnesiac?? the only thing left is Couch
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 08, 2003, 11:30:25 PM
Quote from: bigideas
what about Kid A / Amnesiac?? the only thing left is Couch


Yeah, that's the tough part. Umm... how about SNL Fanatic?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 09, 2003, 02:31:12 PM
what exactly is SNL Fanatic?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on November 09, 2003, 02:36:13 PM
Saturday Night Live's parody of Music Television's Fanatic show directed by Paul Thomas Anderson
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 09, 2003, 09:31:30 PM
is it good?

did anyone ever make a DVD with this and Couch and his short films? i want to see them very badly.

someone really should do this.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 09, 2003, 09:59:13 PM
Quote from: bigideas
did anyone ever make a DVD with this and Couch and his short films? i want to see them very badly.


SNL Fanatic is included in The Best of Molly Shannon DVD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000A1HPQ/qid=1068436510/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-3761006-1402335?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846). It's worth it... I think it's one of the greatest things PTA has done. Couch is good, but not mind-blowing. You need to see SNL Fanatic first.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 09, 2003, 10:12:32 PM
i have seen Couch. i really like the look of it or mainly that first shot framed in the window......that whole thing is very Tati, a very zany Tati

i would buy the new Chris Farley or will ferrell before Shannon, actually i prob will ask for that for Christmas

it would be nice to have all of these(pta's unavailable shorts) on DVD. i'm sure someone here (prob several) has the capabilites to do this. i remember there was a thread a few moons ago about it, but i don't think anything was done (unless it was kept to the xixax elite =))
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on November 13, 2003, 02:12:25 AM
been done before...but this jj don't give a fuck.  play along....

"I dunno...why you bother....."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 15, 2003, 12:22:30 AM
what's this you say???
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on November 19, 2003, 03:23:34 PM
Been listening to the Velvet Goldmine soundtrack, and was wondering if anyone here is a fan of Thom Yorke's contributions...

...also his contribution to "The Mess We're In" on PJ Harvey's Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: classical gas on November 19, 2003, 03:28:16 PM
I'm not sure of the Velvet Goldmine soundtrack, never heard it.  But the song he did with PJ Harvey is great.  listening to it right now...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 19, 2003, 06:59:12 PM
the best is the one with Bjork from the Dancer in the Dark soundtrack, "I've Seen it All."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on November 19, 2003, 07:14:57 PM
Quote from: bigideas
the best is the one with Bjork from the Dancer in the Dark soundtrack, "I've Seen it All."


I like that one, too. Probably my favorite song from that soundtrack (I think it was nominated for an Oscar, too... at least, Bjork sang it at the Oscars. Memorably.)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 20, 2003, 10:10:10 PM
Thom didn't sing with her, did he?
if not, who sang the male parts?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on November 20, 2003, 10:12:30 PM
Quote from: bigideas
Thom didn't sing with her, did he?
if not, who sang the male parts?


If I remember correctly- it's possible I don't- they truncated the song (as they always do when they're performed Oscar night) to exclude the male parts...??

Someone refresh our memory.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on November 20, 2003, 10:15:53 PM
thom was originally scheduled to sing the duet, but unfortunately all the muscial performances had their time allowances cut down to like 2 minutes.  so, he didnt go.  bjork sang all parts, as she does in the film.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 20, 2003, 10:25:18 PM
i thought the actual actor sang in the film.....i remember because he's very out of tune......but then again, i haven't seen it in a long time
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on November 22, 2003, 03:20:48 PM
Yorke also duetted on Drugstore's single, "El Presidente," which has a chorus that goes, "Kill the president," and seems more timely now than when it was released...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on November 22, 2003, 03:32:50 PM
talk show host is a very underrated song I believe...if it weren't for that movie...hmmm, could be close to one of their best...imho.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 23, 2003, 08:24:13 PM
Talk Show Host is definitely one of their best.

Quote from: godardian
Yorke also duetted on Drugstore's single, "El Presidente," which has a course that goes, "Kill the president," and seems more timely now than when it was released...

It's a really annoying song, though.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on November 23, 2003, 08:25:44 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
It's a really annoying song, though.

and a very unappealing video.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on November 23, 2003, 09:29:03 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Talk Show Host is definitely one of their best.

Quote from: godardian
Yorke also duetted on Drugstore's single, "El Presidente," which has a course that goes, "Kill the president," and seems more timely now than when it was released...

It's a really annoying song, though.


Well, I like it better than the current Radiohead stuff. Drugstore's earlier album was a sight better, though.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 23, 2003, 10:24:38 PM
Quote from: godardian
Well, I like it better than the current Radiohead stuff.


Morrissey has warped your mind. Curse you, Godardian!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on November 23, 2003, 10:49:38 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: godardian
Well, I like it better than the current Radiohead stuff.


Morrissey has warped your mind. Curse you, Godardian!


There's no possible way I can deny that...  :)  He is such a hero to me. I say that in all embarrassing earnestness. And he did call a couple of currently very popular "alternative" rock bands "Oldplay and Radiodead," though I like to think I'm not some kind of mindless Morrissey clone or anything.  

You'll be happy to know that R-head is held up at length as a shining example of creative people trying to escape/undermine "The Middle Mind" in the book I'm reading right now.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 24, 2003, 12:20:57 AM
Quote from: godardian
And he did call a couple of currently very popular "alternative" rock bands "Oldplay and Radiodead,"


Before this moment, I was considering buying a Morrissey album.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on November 24, 2003, 12:28:37 AM
Thom Yorke and the rest of the British bands I like have to chill out over the politics, shut the fuck up, and get back to JUST PLAYING MUSIC. Wanna be a politican, then be one. But I think you'd do much better at just musician.

I used to love Coldplay, but Liam Gallagher had it right when he said Chris Martin sounds like a whiny fucking university student. Wash off yer hand Chris, and just play the piano.

At least Radiohead put out a great new album. Fuck.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 24, 2003, 12:39:01 AM
Quote from: SoNowThen
Thom Yorke and the rest of the British bands I like have to chill out over the politics, shut the fuck up, and get back to JUST PLAYING MUSIC.


Don't you think the music and the politics can be one in the same, especially with HTTT?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on November 24, 2003, 12:44:07 AM
How did I know you'd reply, JB?   :)

Everytime I get an album with one of these anti-Bush themes interwoven into it, I just tune it out.

Like certain sexual ambiguities in certain Bowie records, I just enjoy the record without bowing to the message.

But to answer your question, no, not really. If I can tell that it's political, then the message isn't subtle enough, hence I'm being preached to, and that's not cool.

A lot of folks got pissed at Dylan when he converted and did all those on the nose Christian records. I of course totally dig them, but I'm biased. At least I can recognize that. I wouldn't expect those ones to sell very good.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on November 24, 2003, 12:46:00 AM
Quote from: SoNowThen
How did I know you'd reply, JB?   :)

Everytime I get an album with one of these anti-Bush themes interwoven into it, I just tune it out.

Like certain sexual ambiguities in certain Bowie records, I just enjoy the record without bowing to the message.

But to answer your question, no, not really. If I can tell that it's political, then the message isn't subtle enough, hence I'm being preached to, and that's not cool.

A lot of folks got pissed at Dylan when he converted and did all those on the nose Christian records. I of course totally dig them, but I'm biased. At least I can recognize that. I wouldn't expect those ones to sell very good.


I disagree, for music to go that extra step, I think it has to have it's heart in something.  Music, just for the sake of music, is lacking.  If you have some intention in that music, be it political, social, sexual, etc. it means that much more.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: classical gas on November 24, 2003, 12:48:55 AM
singer/songwriters can only write about what they think and feel; so if they have politics on the mind, then they're entitled to write about it.  but i'll agree that it shouldn't be overbearing.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on November 24, 2003, 12:49:43 AM
I didn't say it shouldn't have intention. I want lyrics to be about something more than one stupid love song idea. But I don't wanna be treated like a three year old who has to be taken by the hand and told who to vote for. Then you're making propaganda records. I'm not saying Radiohead does this. I think for the most part they integrate pretty well. But interview after fucking interview of this blather. Talk about how you got the guitar sound, talk about the recording studio, talk about music for fuck's sakes!!!

You wouldn't go to a jeweller for dental advice would you? When I hear Thom talk, I wish he would talk about that which he is so brilliant: music.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on November 24, 2003, 12:51:26 AM
I think Thom gets too much credit...


What do you all think of Coldplay?  Aside from "Clocks" I don't like them
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: classical gas on November 24, 2003, 12:52:22 AM
they got old fast for me...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on November 24, 2003, 12:52:50 AM
Quote from: SoNowThen
I didn't say it shouldn't have intention. I want lyrics to be about something more than one stupid love song idea. But I don't wanna be treated like a three year old who has to be taken by the hand and told who to vote for. Then you're making propaganda records. I'm not saying Radiohead does this. I think for the most part they integrate pretty well. But interview after fucking interview of this blather. Talk about how you got the guitar sound, talk about the recording studio, talk about music for fuck's sakes!!!

You wouldn't go to a jeweller for dental advice would you? When I hear Thom talk, I wish he would talk about that which he is so brilliant: music.


I could care less about what he says in interviews.  I thought you were just talking about the music.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on November 24, 2003, 12:53:03 AM
Quote from: Slobh
I think Thom gets too much credit...


What do you all think of Coldplay?  Aside from "Clocks" I don't like them


They haven't recorded a bad song yet.

I think their music is amazing. But again, I don't ever wanna hear them talk, or read any interviews with them.

I hope their new album isn't full of "I Love Gwyneth" songs.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 24, 2003, 12:53:09 AM
Quote from: SoNowThen
If I can tell that it's political, then the message isn't subtle enough, hence I'm being preached to, and that's not cool.


Art can be at its best when it has wider meaning or social commentary. Think of the most famous and enduring art, and it's usually just that.

And in the music, Radiohead's politics are extremely subtle.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on November 24, 2003, 12:57:11 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Art can be at its best when it has wider meaning or social commentary. Think of the most famous and enduring art, and it's usually just that.

And in the music, Radiohead's politics are extremely subtle.


I will disagree in the most extreme (but unagressive) way. My whole existence doing movies will be dedicated to work that is anything but political or socially conscious. I truly don't like that sort of thing. That doesn't mean I won't watch or enjoy it sometimes (I love the movie Z, but obviously find it to be extremely biased, yet that doesn't hurt my enjoyment of it on a technical level).

I'd have to say that PTA, Fellini (despite some protests), and Kubrick are fairly non-political.

Oh, but I do agree that Radiohead has so far been quite witty and subtle about their stuff (in music).
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: classical gas on November 24, 2003, 12:59:37 AM
kubrick is political at times
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 24, 2003, 12:59:57 AM
Quote from: SoNowThen
I'd have to say that PTA, Fellini (despite some protests), and Kubrick are fairly non-political.


 :shock:

Kubrick non-political?

Have you seen A Clockwork Orange? Paths of Glory? FMJ?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on November 24, 2003, 01:04:52 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: SoNowThen
I'd have to say that PTA, Fellini (despite some protests), and Kubrick are fairly non-political.


 :shock:

Kubrick non-political?

Have you seen A Clockwork Orange? Paths of Glory? FMJ?


Yeah, I'd say that Fellini is the only one there who could be said to be particularly non-political. PTA and Kubrick are powerful, non-didactic storytellers, but there's an unmistakeable political/socially conscious element in their work. Read Tom Tykwer's essay on Punch-Drunk Love, even.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: classical gas on November 24, 2003, 01:07:26 AM
wasn't 'Amarcord' a little political?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on November 24, 2003, 01:07:38 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: godardian
And he did call a couple of currently very popular "alternative" rock bands "Oldplay and Radiodead,"


Before this moment, I was considering buying a Morrissey album.


You still should. Really. He's brilliant- he just doesn't seem to like anything that came on the scene after he did unless it sounds more or less like him. He has a very odd mix of astonishing egotism and tireless self-deprecation. He is the modern Oscar Wilde.  

The best Morrissey is Vauxhall and I. But you should go for the Smiths stuff first, if you haven't already. Thom Yorke used to always say that if he could have written one song in his life, he would've written "There is a Light That Never Goes Out" (from The Queen is Dead).
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on November 24, 2003, 08:48:15 AM
IMO:

Amarcord was basically about nostalgia
A Clockwork Orange blasted each and every side, didn't take a stand with one political position at all.
Nothing PTA has ever done has anything to do with politics.

It could be argued about FMJ, but I get way more on just the process of men being turned into killers (with the usual Stanley bits of detached irony). Used certain politics for story purposes, but I don't think was trying to deliver a message based on those politics. It was more a setting thing.

I really think these good filmmakers don't take a position (in their films) with one side or another. They present the absurdity of it all. A good storyteller touches upon many many things, a shitty storyteller says "this is the right way to think and believe".

Anyway --- sorry for taking the Radiohead thread way off topic. If this needs to be continued, let's go to PM's.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(back to music)

Iron Lung could be the best song off of Bends. The more I listen to that album, the more this song sticks out.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on November 24, 2003, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: godardian
The best Morrissey is Vauxhall and I. But you should go for the Smiths stuff first, if you haven't already. Thom Yorke used to always say that if he could have written one song in his life, he would've written "There is a Light That Never Goes Out" (from The Queen is Dead).


i have that album (vauxhall).  i like "why dont you find out for yourself" and "speedway".  of what i've heard i like vauxhall and actually "my early burglary years" (although its a rarities album) better than any of his other solo stuff.  "jack the ripper" live is possibly my favorite song of his.

doesnt thom also mention on the 'meeting people is easy' something about, if he is to some kid, what the smiths were to him growing up, how that would be incredible?   something to that effect?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on November 24, 2003, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: godardian
The best Morrissey is Vauxhall and I. But you should go for the Smiths stuff first, if you haven't already. Thom Yorke used to always say that if he could have written one song in his life, he would've written "There is a Light That Never Goes Out" (from The Queen is Dead).


i have that album (vauxhall).  i like "why dont you find out for yourself" and "speedway".  of what i've heard i like vauxhall and actually "my early burglary years" (although its a rarities album) better than any of his other solo stuff.  "jack the ripper" live is possibly my favorite song of his.

doesnt thom also mention on the 'meeting people is easy' something about, if he is to some kid, what the smiths were to him growing up, how that would be incredible?   something to that effect?


Yeh, "Speedway" is great, and Burglary Years is an excellent comp. There's a studio version of "Jack the Ripper" produced by Mick Ronson (a b-side from the Your Arsenal sessions). It's very good in a very different way.

There was once a HUGE overlap between Smiths/Morrissey fans and Radiohead fans.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Ghostboy on November 24, 2003, 01:24:10 PM
The last time Radiohead came to Dallas (in 98 ), they spent hours perusing their favorite American record store, Bill's Records & Tapes and were overjoyed to find a large selection of Smiths stuff on vinyl, more than they had ever seen, apparently.

Jumping back a few posts, I really don't like Coldplay at all. But that's just me.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 24, 2003, 02:12:49 PM
Alright... well I just "got my hands on" some Smiths albums, and I like Meat is Murder. "Barbarism Begins at Home" and "How Soon Is Now" are very good (I actually recognize the latter). One thing about the Smiths, though... I think their songs are at least twice as long as they need to be. Seriously.

I just listened to HTTT after leaving it alone for a long time. It really is a masterpiece, and maybe the best thing Radiohead has done. I forgot how insanely great it is. I think I might have abused it at first.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on November 24, 2003, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Alright... well I just "got my hands on" some Smiths albums, and I like Meat is Murder. "Barbarism Begins at Home" and "How Soon Is Now" are very good. One thing about the Smiths, though... I think their songs are at least twice as long as they need to be. Seriously.

I just listened to HTTT after leaving it alone for a long time. It really is a masterpiece, and maybe the best thing Radiohead has done. I forgot how insanely great it is. I think I might have abused it at first.


"Barbarism" and "How Soon" are a couple of the longest items in their catalog, though... and I agree with you about that point, the length. They're good, but not my favorites. Most of the songs on Meat is Murder are longer than the "typical" Smiths song, come to think of it...

Try "Panic," "Shakespear's Sister," "London," or "Sheila Take a Bow." All under 3 minutes, and come to my mind sooner when I think "Smiths."

I know where you can, um, "Get your hands on" these and more. PM me if at all interested.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on November 24, 2003, 02:50:05 PM
best of... volume one is pretty essential.  two is good too, and hatful of hollow.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on November 24, 2003, 02:57:36 PM
Quote from: godardian
"Barbarism" and "How Soon" are a couple of the longest items in their catalog, though... and I agree with you about that point, the length. They're good, but not my favorites.


What kind of Smiths fan are you? A crack on your head is what you get for not liking.

Quote from: themodernage02
best of... volume one is pretty essential.  two is good too, and hatful of hollow.


"The World Won't Listen" compilation is great also.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on November 24, 2003, 02:59:26 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: godardian
"Barbarism" and "How Soon" are a couple of the longest items in their catalog, though... and I agree with you about that point, the length. They're good, but not my favorites.


What kind of Smiths fan are you? A crack on your head is what you get for not liking.

Quote from: themodernage02
best of... volume one is pretty essential.  two is good too, and hatful of hollow.


"The World Won't Listen" compilation is great also.


I think The World Won't Listen is fantastic, too. Probably their true "best." But all the comps are worthwhile.

On "Barbarism"... I know, I know. It's not that I dislike, just that I would've kept it shorter. I think they're at their very best when they're succinct- in fact, I'd call their usual succinctness one of their most admirable qualities.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on November 24, 2003, 04:06:57 PM
watched Meeting People Is Easy again for the first time in awhile.  mad crazyyyyy!

causes seizures though, so watch close.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: russiasusha on November 25, 2003, 03:33:23 PM
greenplastic.com

UPDATED: More Coachella Rumors/Urb Magazine Article

We continue to get reports that Radiohead is playing this year's Coachella festival in Indio, California. The latest report states that this month's issue of Urb magazine confirms this, as well as an appearance by the reunited Pixies (named as a big Radiohead influence).
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on December 01, 2003, 03:32:02 PM
Quote from: Greenplastic and NME
According to this week's Radiohead article in NME, Thom was nervous about a possible US backlash because of his views on President Bush.

From NME-
"The band have spent much of the autumn on tour in America supporting their current album ‘Hail To The Thief’. Thom said that because of his public anti-war stance and the perceived anti-Bush album title, the band feared some kind of backlash.

"We were sort of worried about the reaction to what we had been saying when we went over there," Thom told NME.COM. "Colin (Greenwood, bassist), whose wife is American, didn’t see a problem at all. It turned out that he was right, when you met people face to face the resistance, disgust and dismay was obvious."

Thom said that some of the band’s older songs have taken on new meanings. He continued: "When we played ‘No Surprises’ a huge cheer would go up every night over the line ‘Bring down the government / They don't speak for us..’. Although in Houston, Texas it was a little err...muted shall we say"


What's up, Pedro
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on December 01, 2003, 03:59:13 PM
I don't recall it being "muted"... I just think they were expecting too much from a bunch of lazy Texans.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: russiasusha on December 02, 2003, 12:51:24 PM
Quote
What's up, Pedro



 :?:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on December 02, 2003, 02:35:59 PM
In pitch dark I go walking in your landscape
Broken branches trip me as I speak
Just cos you feel it doesn't mean it's there
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on December 02, 2003, 05:30:32 PM
Quote from: russiasusha
Quote
What's up, Pedro



 :?:

I was there.  Um, yeah. . .it wasn't a big roar.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: aclockworkjj on December 03, 2003, 12:28:15 AM
She's running out again
She's running out
She runs runs runs
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on December 09, 2003, 02:59:23 AM
Has anyone heard the new 21 track acoustic cd?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on December 09, 2003, 07:49:54 AM
Quote from: SHAFTR
Has anyone heard the new 21 track acoustic cd?

no.. but tell me what's on it so i can steal it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on December 09, 2003, 02:49:10 PM
Quote from: P
Quote from: SHAFTR
Has anyone heard the new 21 track acoustic cd?

no.. but tell me what's on it so i can steal it.


What are you talking about!!!!!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on December 09, 2003, 02:57:17 PM
clicky clicky

http://www.radiohead-fans.org/newalbum.htm
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on December 09, 2003, 03:00:27 PM
Shaftr, if I click on the download button, will it be some shitty quality internet streamy thing, or like a wonderous cd? If like a wonderous cd, you are a very beautiful person to share this!!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on December 09, 2003, 03:25:00 PM
Well, a BBC radio show is finishing in about 35 minutes that had Thom and Jonny doing an acoustic set.  I missed it.  Anybody have any help files?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on December 09, 2003, 03:54:33 PM
i bought one of these in high school at some mom and pop record shop.  its not a real album, just some fan compiled bootleg of acoustic performances.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on December 09, 2003, 06:52:34 PM
"Forbidden
 You don't have permission to access /forum/ on this server"

anyway, yeah, this is some unofficial bootleg shit.  probably just thrown together from different performances that happened to have an accoustic song or two.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on December 09, 2003, 07:41:43 PM
it's still good.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on December 10, 2003, 10:04:55 AM
I finally found a non-streaming version of the "There There" video:

http://www.jr2.org/therethere/Radiohead%20-%20There%20There%20FULL.mpg
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on December 10, 2003, 04:34:23 PM
http://www.greenplastic.com/news/dusty/000823.php
eww
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on December 10, 2003, 04:51:37 PM
Quote from: Pedro the Wombat
http://www.greenplastic.com/news/dusty/000823.php
eww


Look at the newspost under it though, you can now hear that acoustic show if you missed it
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Finn on March 16, 2004, 08:09:55 AM
This is truly one of my favorite bands. I've been particularly listening to No Surprises, I Will, Fog, Karma Police, You and Whose Army, Bullet Proof, How to Disappear Completly and Exit Music recently.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on March 16, 2004, 03:47:43 PM
Quote from: Quoyle
This is truly one of my favorite bands. I've been particularly listening to No Surprises, I Will, Fog, Karma Police, You and Whose Army, Bullet Proof, How to Disappear Completly and Exit Music recently.


Into the quieter songs, I see.  Fog is one of their best B-sides, one of those songs worth dumping your entire budget into getting the rights to it for your movie.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pas on March 16, 2004, 05:11:38 PM
I dont own a single Radiohead album which makes me unique on Xixax.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on March 16, 2004, 08:30:07 PM
Thom Yorke's 'Finger' Sold on E-Bay

LONDON, (United Press International) -- An item identified as Radiohead frontman Thom Yorke's middle finger has been sold on E-Bay, New Music Express Online reports.

The article sparked a bidding frenzy last week that ended with its sale Monday for $466.

Although some bidders may have mistaken the item for Yorke's real finger, the "pretty unique item of Radiohead memorabilia" appears to be the middle digit from the singer's NME Award, which he broke off during the Feb. 12 ceremony because it was "offensive," the music Web site noted.

Seller George Bagilhole claimed: "My friend saw him breaking the finger off against a wall and picked it up after he walked off."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ©brad on March 16, 2004, 09:21:27 PM
dude, that title is like so misleading. and since when do news articles have twist endings?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: NEON MERCURY on March 16, 2004, 09:23:30 PM
i just wanted to say  your av rocks...... 8)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on March 17, 2004, 04:36:31 PM
John Mayer Covers Radiohead
03.17.2004 4:02 PM EST  
 
When people purchase Heavier Things at participating retailers, they'll be handed the bonus disc, which features two recordings of Mayer's current single, "Clarity" (an acoustic take and a radio edit), live versions of "Come Back to Bed" and "Neon," and a track that's been a component of Mayer's live show for a few years.

" 'Kid A' is this little funny thing that happened while we were making [2001's] Room for Squares," Mayer explained of his Radiohead cover. "John Alagia, who was producing the record, had to go away for the weekend. So myself and Jeff Juliano, the engineer, just started messing around. I tooled up this version of 'Kid A' because I love the song, I really do. And within an hour and a half or two hours, it was all done."

Where Radiohead's version of the title track from their 2000 album is an amalgam of looped beats and electronic tones, Mayer rendered his take acoustically, demonstrating his versatility and dexterity as a guitar player. Another fundamental difference is that on Mayer's track, the lyrics can actually be understood.

"The thing about doing covers, for me, is that I don't really feel like I can cover just any song," he said. "I can't particularly sing somebody's notes clearer or higher or stronger, which is why it was such a cool thing to cover this song. There's a tune there, but it was almost purposefully obscured, like a robot was singing it. It was one of the few songs I could do something with — if you're gonna do a cover, leave the song somewhere different than where you picked it up."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on March 17, 2004, 07:25:52 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
John Mayer Covers Radiohead
03.17.2004 4:02 PM EST  
 
When people purchase Heavier Things at participating retailers, they'll be handed the bonus disc, which features two recordings of Mayer's current single, "Clarity" (an acoustic take and a radio edit), live versions of "Come Back to Bed" and "Neon," and a track that's been a component of Mayer's live show for a few years.

" 'Kid A' is this little funny thing that happened while we were making [2001's] Room for Squares," Mayer explained of his Radiohead cover. "John Alagia, who was producing the record, had to go away for the weekend. So myself and Jeff Juliano, the engineer, just started messing around. I tooled up this version of 'Kid A' because I love the song, I really do. And within an hour and a half or two hours, it was all done."

Where Radiohead's version of the title track from their 2000 album is an amalgam of looped beats and electronic tones, Mayer rendered his take acoustically, demonstrating his versatility and dexterity as a guitar player. Another fundamental difference is that on Mayer's track, the lyrics can actually be understood.

"The thing about doing covers, for me, is that I don't really feel like I can cover just any song," he said. "I can't particularly sing somebody's notes clearer or higher or stronger, which is why it was such a cool thing to cover this song. There's a tune there, but it was almost purposefully obscured, like a robot was singing it. It was one of the few songs I could do something with — if you're gonna do a cover, leave the song somewhere different than where you picked it up."


Put a gun to my head and paint the wall with my brains.   :roll:

But I admire his taste.   :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: pete on March 17, 2004, 07:57:23 PM
john mayer is so terrible.
I once read an article somewhere that said "your body's a wonderland" is basically a remake of afternoon delight, and that dude was so right on.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: El Duderino on March 17, 2004, 07:57:47 PM
has anyone else noticed that john mayer licks the mic when he sings?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on March 17, 2004, 08:02:08 PM
Quote from: El Duderino
has anyone else noticed that john mayer licks the mic when he sings?


I noticed he licks balls when he sings.






I can't bring myself to make too much fun of him anymore; he was on Chappelle's Show.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: El Duderino on March 17, 2004, 08:04:26 PM
Quote from: hacksparrow
Quote from: El Duderino
has anyone else noticed that john mayer licks the mic when he sings?


I noticed he licks balls when he sings.



 :yabbse-thumbup:  :yabbse-thumbup:  :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on March 17, 2004, 09:24:57 PM
Why is that Kid A thing news?  that's the first song I heard of his.

Yeah, his music blows... except for the Kid A cover, which is decent.  And he was on the Chappelle show and was pretty funny.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on March 17, 2004, 09:33:26 PM
yeah an old friend i used to have was REALLY into john mayer (safe to say we dont speak anymore) and he had that 'kid a' thing downloaded like right when room for squares came out and played it for me.  i guess its news now because its getting an 'official release'.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 18, 2004, 04:03:24 PM
NPR's All Songs Considered has an excerpt from Johnny Greenwood's "Bodysong" soundtrack:

http://www.npr.org/programs/asc/archives/asc57/#greenwood


This soundtrack is mentioned somewhere else in this thread, right? Cause it's great stuff.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: godardian on March 18, 2004, 04:25:02 PM
The John Mayer thing reminds me of when Duncan Sheik ('member him? Didn't think so) covered "Fake Plastic Trees."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Finn on March 18, 2004, 07:36:02 PM
How does everyone feel about putting radiohead songs on the piano and using them instrumentally without lyrics? Many people have done that. I think it's pretty great!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on March 18, 2004, 08:28:48 PM
Quote from: Quoyle
How does everyone feel about putting radiohead songs on the piano and using them instrumentally without lyrics? Many people have done that. I think it's pretty great!


That Christopher O'Riley album is pretty good.  My preference is for that string quartet that covered all of OK Computer and did another disc with a bunch of different songs (they do Palo Alto!!!!! And Permanent Daylight!!!!).  Good stuff.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: pete on March 18, 2004, 08:33:16 PM
brad meldau (sp?) did some wonderful jazz piano arrangements of radiohead songs.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on March 18, 2004, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: pete
brad meldau (sp?) did some wonderful jazz piano arrangements of radiohead songs.


Where are these. I want to hear these. Are there any other versions of The Tourist or Sulk anywhere, piano, trumpet, skin flute, doesnt mattter.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: El Duderino on March 21, 2004, 04:34:29 PM
my friend thought he was being clever and smart, but it's so fucking stupid, so i'll share it with you guys. he thinks radiohead should name everyone of their albums in order from Kid A...i.e. Kid B, Kid C, Kid D, etc. i know that's stupid, but i thought i'd share
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cine on March 21, 2004, 04:40:38 PM
No, you're right, that's stupid.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on March 22, 2004, 06:14:48 AM
Quote from: Cinephile
No, you're right, that's stupid.


You are stupid.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on March 22, 2004, 06:15:59 AM
that's just sad.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Finn on April 11, 2004, 06:53:11 PM
I was listening to Life in a Glass House by Radiohead the other day and one of my friends was listening. He said that they singing was so bad and the music was just awful. I agree with him to a degree that that song can't be considered as "well done", but I actually enjoyed it in all it's badness. Maybe it was suppose to be bad. Either way, it sounded cool to me.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on April 11, 2004, 08:00:50 PM
Two words: Com Lag.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: picolas on April 12, 2004, 03:02:35 AM
Quote from: Quoyle
Maybe it was suppose to be bad. Either way, it sounded cool to me.

then why isn't it good? and well done?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on April 12, 2004, 08:48:31 AM
Quote from: cronopio
Two words: Com Lag.


wasn't it recalled?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on April 12, 2004, 08:59:52 AM
nosir, Com Lag it is.

(http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/images/r/radiohead/com-lag.gif)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Finn on April 24, 2004, 09:00:57 PM
favorite radiohead lyrics???
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 25, 2004, 12:01:26 AM
Easier question, please.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on April 25, 2004, 10:54:43 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Easier question, please.

okay hows this for easy:

How did Mod-Age feel about the film in Quoyle's avatar?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on April 25, 2004, 11:21:57 AM
Quote from: themodernage02
How did Mod-Age feel about the film in Quoyle's avatar?

"my thoughts are misguided and a little naive"
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: NEON MERCURY on April 25, 2004, 08:44:15 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
How did Mod-Age feel about the film in Quoyle's avatar?


"hypocrite opportunist, ...don't infect me with your poison"

....thats the best line..in the best song on HTTT.....
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on April 25, 2004, 10:00:14 PM
Quote from: Pubrick
Quote from: themodernage02
How did Mod-Age feel about the film in Quoyle's avatar?

"my thoughts are misguided and a little naive"

AHH, i'm sorry.  thats incorrect.  i cant think of an easier one than that though.  :(
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 27, 2004, 10:31:43 PM
Quote from: cronopio
nosir, Com Lag it is.

(http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/images/r/radiohead/com-lag.gif)


and according to atease it seems it's almost released everywhere EXCEPT for the US!!!!!!!

any idea what the cheapest way to get it would be??
canada??
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on April 27, 2004, 10:42:05 PM
Download it. I think its priced highly creepily. Unless you are a collector and have endless funds, in that case when you get it send it to me so I can download it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on April 28, 2004, 06:02:57 AM
buy it via www.amazon.co.uk  , i think it's around 10 quids.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 28, 2004, 05:56:08 PM
actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on April 28, 2004, 05:59:17 PM
Quote from: bigideas
actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.


Speaking of that, what's the song that inspired Myxomatosis? A friend  told me once that it has the same chorus of a previous Radiohead song.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on April 28, 2004, 06:01:31 PM
Quote from: cronopio
Quote from: bigideas
actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.


Speaking of that, what's the song that inspired Myxomatosis? A friend  told me once that it has the same chorus of a previous Radiohead song.


sort of, it's just that both songs have similar lyrics at times

"Cuttooth"
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 28, 2004, 07:19:30 PM
Cuttooth
I would lead the wallpaper life
Or run away to the foreign legion
I would lead the wallpaper life
Or run away to the foreign legion
As the tanks roll into town
As the tanks roll into town
A little bit of knowledge will destroy you
A little bit of knowledge will destroy you
As the tanks roll into town
As the tanks roll into town
A little bit of knowledge will destroy you
A little bit of knowledge will destroy you
I don't know why I feel so tongue-tied
I don't know why I feel so skinned alive

Run until your lungs are sore
Until you cannot feel it anymore
Run until your lungs are sore
Until you find an open door
I build you up to pull you down
Tie you to your feet, and watch you drown
A little bit of knowledge will destroy you
A little bit of knowledge will destroy you
I build you up to pull you down
Tie you to the stake, and watch you burn in hell, in hell
I dont know why I feel so tongue-tied
I dont know why I feel so skinned alive

I'll find another skin to wear



Myxomatosis
The mongrel cat came home
Holding half a head
Proceeded to show it off
To all his new found friends
He said I been where I liked
I slept with who I like
She ate me up for breakfast
She screwed me in a vice
But now
I don't know
why I feel so tongue-tied
Don't know why I feel
So skinned alive

I sat in the cupboard
And wrote it down in neat
They were cheering and waving
Cheering and waving
Twitching and salivating like with myxomatosis
But it got edited fucked up
Strangled, beaten up
Used as a photo in time magazine
Buried in a burning black hole in Devon
I don’t know
Why I feel so tongue-tied
I don’t know
Why I feel so skinned alive.

My thoughts are misguided and a little naive
I twitch and I salivate like with myxomatosis
You should put me in a home or you should put me down
I got myxomatosis
I got myxomatosis
Yeah no one likes a smart ass but we all like stars
(for a reason) That wasn't my intention (for a reason)
I did for a reason (reason)
It must have got mixed up
Strangled beaten up
I got myxomatosis
I got myxomatosis
I don’t know
Why I feel so tongue-tied
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 29, 2004, 06:20:06 PM
have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on April 29, 2004, 06:21:49 PM
actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.

have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"

actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.

have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"

actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.

have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"

actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.

have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"

actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.

have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"

actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.

have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"

actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.

have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"

actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.

have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"

actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.

have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"

actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.

have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"

actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.

have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"

actually, now that i think about it, i already have downloaded all the non-remixed songs. i want to hear the Myxamatosis remix because i heard it had a few extra lyrics (the one including something about 'mafia geeks')

i bet if i looked hard enough i could find the mp3's on a webpage somewhere.

have you heard the Myxomatosis(sp?) remix with the extra bit of lyrics (i think they're in the booklet)....they include the phrase "mafia geeks"
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on May 01, 2004, 07:40:34 PM
if a question is unanswered it bares repeating.
you must be really bored
really bored
real real really bored
reelly board
reel e boar duh
reel e reel boar duh
-max headrom(sp?)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on May 20, 2004, 09:47:01 AM
from CNN.com

Radiohead guitarist to be BBC composer
Thursday, May 20, 2004 Posted: 9:16 AM EDT (1316 GMT)

LONDON, England (AP) -- Radiohead guitarist Jonny Greenwood will become the British Broadcasting Corp.'s new composer in residence and will write a new work for one of its radio stations.

The assignment, expected to last three years, will allow Greenwood to use the BBC's musical resources, including the BBC Concert Orchestra. His manager, Bryce Edge, said Tuesday the appointment will allow him to "learn how an orchestra works."

The role was previously held by Anne Dudley, keyboard player for '80s ambient band Art of Noise and winner of an Oscar for composing the score of 1997's "The Full Monty."

"He will have access to the resources, the archives, the scores and most importantly the BBC Concert Orchestra," Edge said of Greenwood. "He will be able to workshop things he has written with the full orchestra. And it is an incredibly flexible arrangement."

Greenwood is a trained viola player, but has not been educated in classical composition.

He is committed to writing a single piece for the BBC, and its length and style are up to him. During that work, he'll remain a member of Radiohead and won't interrupt the band's recording or touring schedules.

The popular pop band is known for its unique cacophonies of rock-pop-electronica. Radiohead blends guitars, bass and drums with computer technology, drum machines, vocal loops and just plain noise ranging from radio broadcasts to static to sleigh bells.

Last year, Radiohead was voted the world's best band at the annual Q music awards, winning the prize for the third straight year.

The band's most recent album, "Hail to the Thief," has been widely praised by critics in Britain and the United States.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on May 20, 2004, 02:37:15 PM
oh by the way, bigideas(don'tgetany) the remix of Myxomatosis has that line about mafia geeks.  I don't know why you couldn't just download it to begin with
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on June 16, 2004, 07:12:30 PM
Hah!  Has everyone heard this yet?

http://www.hardnphirm.com/music/Rodeohead.mp3
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on June 16, 2004, 09:14:02 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Hah!  Has everyone heard this yet?

http://www.hardnphirm.com/music/Rodeohead.mp3


Ummm, you'd have been one of the first people to hear it if you regularly visited my favourite board in the whole world, ASTfag.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 18, 2004, 02:47:38 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Hah!  Has everyone heard this yet?

http://www.hardnphirm.com/music/Rodeohead.mp3

In the strangest way possible, that song makes me realize how original Radiohead is.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on June 18, 2004, 05:36:11 PM
.. but I was told I would receive a paycheck ..
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 21, 2004, 11:45:16 AM
Has anybody heard Bodysong yet? It really is fantastic stuff.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: matt35mm on June 21, 2004, 02:12:51 PM
Yeah I heard it once a while ago.  I remember liking it, although I'd probably like it much more if I got to listen to it a few more times.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Dirk on June 21, 2004, 07:26:37 PM
I remember thinking it was utter shite, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 21, 2004, 09:28:38 PM
Quote from: Dirk
I remember thinking it was utter shite, but that's just me.

Yeah, well, it's about 1/3 as solid as a Radiohead album. But I absolutely love the experimentation.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 04, 2004, 01:40:00 PM
I just heard a mash up of The Beatles' "A Day in the Life" and Radiohead's "Karma Police."  Anyone else know about this, what it's called and where I might find it?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 04, 2004, 01:56:51 PM
http://www.gohomeproductions.co.uk
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: mogwai on October 04, 2004, 02:38:21 PM
sounds very good. i wonder what paranoid android vs with a little help from my friends would sound like.

ooooh, check out the blur "parksliced" remixes. they're amazing.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 04, 2004, 08:16:43 PM
radiowho?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 04, 2004, 10:39:11 PM
radioDEAD  :lol:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 04, 2004, 10:44:18 PM
i think they're like the 'english wilco'.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: london on October 12, 2004, 11:01:11 AM
Radiohead has a new DVD coming out called "The Most Gigantic Lying Mouth of All Time".    To pre-order it, go to the Radiohead website or click here.
http://www.radiohead.com/gigantictvdvd/
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on October 26, 2004, 10:49:01 PM
http://strawberrie.virtue.nu/radiohead.html
(http://strawberrie.virtue.nu/morningbell.gif)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: meatwad on October 26, 2004, 10:55:02 PM
(http://strawberrie.virtue.nu/fakeplastictrees.gif)

no
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: matt35mm on October 26, 2004, 11:08:45 PM
"No Surprises"

Good song, but I don't see how it's the Radiohead song that I am.  I'm more "You And Whose Army?" or "The National Anthem."

By the way, linking the picture doesn't work.  I don't know why, but it's stupid that it won't allow you to link to the picture.

But looking at the link-name, Cronopio was "Morning Bell" and Meatwad was "Fake Plastic Trees."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 26, 2004, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: matt35mm
By the way, linking the picture doesn't work.  I don't know why, but it's stupid that it won't allow you to link to the picture.

for sum reason that i cannot fathom, the pictures only show once they've come up to u on the site. like i tried a few random responses "first answers only" and "last answers only". and got fake plastic trees, the picture of which i can now see in meatwads post.

anyway, idioteque and subterraneanhomesickalien. both inaccurate. i did it again and got radiodead.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 27, 2004, 10:13:23 AM
I'm "No Surprises" too.  

I think I'm more "Myxomatosis" myself.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: mogwai on October 27, 2004, 11:24:49 AM
idioteque, what the...?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on October 27, 2004, 03:03:12 PM
Subterranean Homesick Alien
Oh boy, you're a weirdo. Chances are you feel misunderstood and that you can't really trust most people. You want to be abducted by aliens. Try to concentrate on things that really matter.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on October 27, 2004, 03:24:02 PM
Fake Plastic Trees
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on October 27, 2004, 03:52:27 PM
Live Cover of U2's Sunday Bloody Sunday
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: matt35mm on October 27, 2004, 05:10:31 PM
Does that really exist?  Because I've downloaded a track that SAID it was a Radiohead live cover, but upon closer listening, it was actually U2 live.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 28, 2004, 11:00:02 AM
Funny.  Once I downloaded a track that was supposed to be U2 covering Creep but it turns out it was neither U2 nor Radiohead.  Good thing, too. It was a crap cover.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on October 29, 2004, 03:04:31 AM
Quote from: hacksparrow
I think I'm more "Myxomatosis" myself.


:yabbse-thumbdown:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on November 07, 2004, 11:42:55 AM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
Quote from: hacksparrow
I think I'm more "Myxomatosis" myself.


:yabbse-thumbdown:


Hey, I don't see your name on that song...



wait...



never mind...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: london on November 09, 2004, 08:50:20 AM
I just bought their calendar for 2005.  I know people say Radiohead is overated but  there is a reason why they never leave my cd player and I am reminded of why everytime I listen to them.  Wiggle wiggle wiggling in my seat just waiting, baby!
Today, I am the Bends.  Sigh.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: london on November 30, 2004, 12:25:52 PM
I was just emailed a confirmation that my dvd has been shipped.  I imagine it is enroute as we speak, hopefully not being carelessly crunched and mauled in its overseas journey. Radiohead should always be handled with intent.  
The only thing I can come up with today is Lurgee.  At least that is what I keep telling myself.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Gamblour. on December 01, 2004, 02:17:07 AM
I Know why the song Treefingers exists...it is to listen to while you're high. oh my god...it's the bass. it feels great in your ears.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 01, 2004, 06:58:33 AM
The first time one of my friends got high, he listened to Kid A and it freaked him out.  But afterwards, he started liking OK Computer, the only Radiohead album he couldn't get into.  :shock:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on December 01, 2004, 01:25:01 PM
I took that test and it came back Idioteque.  I think the person who made this was very lazy.

I'd like to think I'm pretty Airbag or Planet Telex.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on December 01, 2004, 02:18:45 PM
The new DVD already came in (I got the email confirmation on or around Thanksgiving)!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 01, 2004, 02:20:11 PM
Quote from: Sidewalrus, Kookookajoob
I'd like to think I'm pretty Airbag or Planet Telex.


Is it telling, personality-wise, that both your picks are Track 1's?  ;)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on December 01, 2004, 05:13:06 PM
Quote from: hacksparrow
Quote from: Sidewalrus, Kookookajoob
I'd like to think I'm pretty Airbag or Planet Telex.


Is it telling, personality-wise, that both your picks are Track 1's?  ;)


It wasn't intentional... or maybe it was.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on December 02, 2004, 01:00:33 AM
Rodeohead anyone? (http://www.hardnphirm.com/music/Rodeohead.mp3)[/color]
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on December 02, 2004, 01:05:05 AM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
Rodeohead anyone? (http://www.hardnphirm.com/music/Rodeohead.mp3)[/color]

Yes:

http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=108&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=509
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: classical gas on December 02, 2004, 01:06:42 AM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Hah!  Has everyone heard this yet?

http://www.hardnphirm.com/music/Rodeohead.mp3
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: classical gas on December 02, 2004, 01:07:31 AM
damn!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on December 02, 2004, 01:02:04 PM
One of these days I'll post something that won't get redirected.

;)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on December 02, 2004, 07:58:28 PM
I got my Gigantic Lying Mouth CD!

At the end of the 4th episode they show a bit of National Anthem live at the Gorge in Washington, USA. That is one of two Radiohead shows I've seen live. I was a little surprised when they panned out and I totally recognized the location.

:-D

Oh and how great is Chernobyl 2?! God that sounds like music from a Lynch film.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: london on December 04, 2004, 01:09:48 AM
The music at the end is disturbing.  And I am always amazed that songs with lyrics can stand separate from the music and vice-versa.  These guys always seem to have the ability to create a perfect mood to the subject matter.  

Myxomatosis wrote:
Quote
At the end of the 4th episode they show a bit of National Anthem live at the Gorge in Washington, USA. That is one of two Radiohead shows I've seen live. I was a little surprised when they panned out and I totally recognized the location.

That is awsome.  I have never seen them live but that looked like a fucking awsome clip to what must have been a fucking awsome show.  That chick was so into them until the crowd started pushing her.

Of course everyone hates Bush.  It's funny to listen to an Englishman play rodeo; and quite well I might add.

"I will eat you alive.  No more lies"
"I don't know why I feel so tongue tied.  I don't know why I feel so skinned alive"
"Please dont fall in love with me.  All my love is used up on me"  He looked like an alien  in the last clip.  
99%.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: london on December 04, 2004, 02:01:39 AM
The animation, lyrics and music are all great.  Some say that they have become pretentious  but I dont see that.  They have changed I guess but their essence is still the same.  I think their scope just got bigger.  It happens with stardom.   But Thom answering the interviewers questions should have said it all.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Film Student on December 04, 2004, 07:52:58 PM
I took the test and I'm "Fake Plastic Trees".... It seems like they just go off of your answer to the first question...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on February 25, 2005, 10:38:51 PM
Christopher O'Riley will release his second Radiohead tribute on April 12th. Harmonia Mundi is the new label for the 'True Love Waits' follow-up. 'Hold me to this' contains 14 new piano interpretations of Radiohead songs. Here's the tracklisting and examples from O'Riley's website of selected songs:

(http://www.ateaseweb.com/holdmetothis150.jpg)

There There (http://www.christopheroriley.com/mp3s/there_there.mp3)
(nice dream)
No Surprises
Polyethylene Part II (http://www.christopheroriley.com/mp3s/polyethylene.mp3)
How I Made My Millions (http://www.christopheroriley.com/mp3s/How%20I%20Made%20My%20Millions.mp3)
Like Spinning Plates (http://www.christopheroriley.com/mp3s/like%20spinning%20plates.mp3)
Sail To The Moon (http://www.christopheroriley.com/mp3s/sail_home_version.mp3)
The Tourist
Cuttooth
2+2=5
Talk Show Host (http://www.christopheroriley.com/mp3s/talk%20show%20host.mp3)
Gagging Order
Paranoid Android (http://www.christopheroriley.com/mp3s/paranoid_android.mp3)
Street Spirit (fade out)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Finn on February 26, 2005, 02:10:40 PM
Awesome! Those mp3s were great. I loved his first piano album for radiohead. It just shows what range is in their music with artistis performing their music like Chris O'Reilly and the String Quartet.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Gamblour. on February 26, 2005, 02:23:18 PM
I thought his version of Paranoid Android sucked ass. He was all over the place, I really didn't like how he translated the music, nor did I like how he was too wishy-washy with the time signatures. Sorry, if you're going to do this, do it right.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on February 26, 2005, 02:32:42 PM
Those are live tracks.

The album might have cleaned up versions of all the songs I linked to.

Also keep in mind that what he's doing isn't a copy of Radiohead's work. He is giving each song his own composition and making the work his own, which I respect alot. Having a chance to see Chris O'Riley live and meet him afterward, I can say that his work is astounding.

His version of "There, There" is fucking awesome..
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on February 28, 2005, 12:34:05 PM
Polyethylene was a good choice.  I'm not crazy about how it came out but he should be commended for picking it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: bluejaytwist on March 09, 2005, 06:15:37 PM
ahem...as i was saying...

Quote from: Thom Yorke
Have a cookie.

THAT

would be a bad idea

hey weve started work.(speaking of cookies)

no really



a new obsession of waiting for leaks begins.....
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on March 09, 2005, 07:19:38 PM
Quote from: bluejaytwist
ahem...as i was saying...

Quote from: Thom Yorke
Have a cookie.

THAT

would be a bad idea

hey weve started work.(speaking of cookies)

no really



a new obsession of waiting for leaks begins.....


God, I hate it when he does that.

:lol:

Now I've gotta check Ateaseweb like, every day to see if they'll be testing new tracks live at small venues around Europe like they normally do.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: mogwai on March 09, 2005, 11:11:03 PM
hahahahahahaha

HA! :|
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on March 22, 2005, 07:19:04 PM
'I'm going to drive everyone slightly crazy'

(http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/arts/2005/03/21/radiohead1.jpg)

What on earth is Radiohead's guitarist doing curating a classical music concert? Jonny Greenwood reveals all to Tom Service

Jonny Greenwood is contrite when I first meet him in the studio near Oxford where Radiohead first cut their teeth. "Sorry about my hand," he says. "It's not sweat, it's burn ointment." Radiohead are rehearsing again, working on new material, and Greenwood, their guitarist, is hard at work. Have the fingers on his right hand been burnt by trying to play too hard and too fast? "I only wish I could play faster," he says.


Greenwood, the youngest member of Radiohead, is a musical obsessive. This month, as well as working with the band, he has had time to develop the classical side of his musical enthusiasms. Over the past couple of years, Greenwood has been turning himself into a classical composer. He has already written one work, Smear, for the London Sinfonietta, Britain's most important ensemble for contemporary classical music, and last year he was appointed the BBC Concert Orchestra's composer in residence.
And now he has curated a concert as part of the South Bank's Ether festival with the London Sinfonietta. His programme features a revised version of Smear, as well as a new Greenwood work, Piano for Children, and his favourite pieces by classical modernists Gyorgy Ligeti, Penderecki, Henri Dutilleux and Olivier Messiaen.

"I feel embarrassed talking about it," he says. "I'm so patchy. I'll be obsessed with a few composers, and know nothing about the rest." It's hard to agree with his modest assessment. After all, he was an accomplished viola player before the lure of the guitar seduced him. However, his classical obsessions have already found their way into Radiohead albums. "I get these enthusiasms which can drive the band crazy," he explains, "but I just say: listen, French horns are amazing, we've got to find a way of using them. Or I'll say, it would be great if this song sounded like Penderecki, or Alice Coltrane. And it's childish because none of us can play jazz like Alice Coltrane, and none of us can write the kind of music that Penderecki does. We've only got guitars and a basic knowledge of music, but we reach for these things and miss. That's what's cool about it."

With the Ether project, Greenwood is setting himself up in an ostentatiously classical context. However, he has experience behind him: he first worked with the Sinfonietta last year, when he wrote Smear. "They're a great orchestra," he says, "because they're up for radically changing things at the last minute. I cut six minutes out of Smear during rehearsals. I'm really looking forward to hearing the new version; it's a bit shorter and a bit fuller in its orchestration."

The new piece, Piano for Children, is scored for strings and John Constable, the Sinfonietta's star pianist. "He has played the part through with me," Greenwood says, "and made some great suggestions. There's something about classical musicians - they tend to be totally without ego, and so enthusiastic, but also just so talented."

Smear reveals another of Greenwood's obsessions: as well as strings and wind players, it's written for two ondes martenot, the weird electronic instrument so beloved of French composer Olivier Messiaen. "I first heard the ondes martenot when a teacher at school played us Messiaen's Turangalila Symphony, and I heard it swooping along with the strings. But I had no idea what it looked like, and then finally, about four or five years ago, when we were doing Kid A, I found one in Paris."

Greenwood is now a one-man PR campaign for the ondes martenot. He taught himself how to play it, mastering its keyboard and electronic ribbon, which produces the dizzying whoops and whistles. And he met the instrument's most famous virtuoso, Jeanne Loriod, who was Messiaen's sister-in-law. "Just before she died, I interviewed her, and I was telling her how rubbish I thought synthesizers and keyboards were compared to the ondes martenot, but she was saying, no, synthesizers are great as well: she was in her 70s and she was more broad-minded than me. But I think the ondes martenot is wonderful. It puts you in total control of the pitch and expression, and it's as close to singing as I can get. It's a living thing."

In his Ether concert, he has programmed Messiaen's La Fête des Belles Eaux, a piece for no fewer than six ondes martenots. "It was first done outdoors in Paris in the 1930s," Greenwood says, "and there were speakers hanging on buildings, fountains were illuminated with coloured lights, and there were women dressed in enormous ballgowns dancing to this strange music."

Sadly, we're not going to be treated to the spectacle of Greenwood gyrating in a ballgown in the Festival Hall, but there will be visuals accompanying the music. "We built this laser device when we took the ondes martenot on the Kid A tour, which translates the sound of the instrument into a circle that would start to move according to the pitch that's playing."

After the Sinfonietta collaboration, Greenwood has his position as composer in residence with the BBC Concert Orchestra to look forward to. "It's insane," he says, "because I've got a whole orchestra to myself. I still can't believe it. It's that thing of standing in a quiet room, and experiencing the way the air moves when the orchestra start to play. It's so seductive." In the first piece Greenwood wrote for the orchestra, he tried to get the string players to sound like snare drums and high-hats. "Parts of it were really good, and in another part somebody in the orchestra started laughing it was so bad. I know I'm going to drive them crazy with all these ideas."

So are these the first steps towards Greenwood carving out a classical career alongside, or even instead of, his work with Radiohead? "Radiohead is always going to be the centre of what I do," he says. "Everything starts with songs, and with Thom, and with the excitement you can get in the band when you hear new music, and you know you've got the chance to watch it mutate and change. There's nothing like that, nothing as exciting. We're rehearsing at the moment, and again it's fun. We all want to push forward, and when you have five people who are all like that, you couldn't ask for a better thing."

But the influence of Greenwood's experience with classical musicians will inform Radiohead in the future. "I'll be able to bang on with more confidence about whatever instrument happens to be obsessing me at the moment. Yesterday I was trying to explain how we have to get hold of a clavichord." The idea of Radiohead using a delicate, miniaturised baroque keyboard in their next album may seem far-fetched, but it's all part of Greenwood's boundless musical enthusiasm. He may describe his curiosity as childish, but it's what gives his compositions their energy, and what makes him a musician who effortlessly crosses the artificial divisions between pop and classical cultures.


source: The Guardian.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 22, 2005, 10:57:02 PM
This is why I like Bodysong. You realize exactly which part of Radiohead's genius he is.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on April 15, 2005, 01:47:37 PM
Updates from the Ether Music Festival.

Arpeggi (http://member.ycn.com/~ewwoess/tmp/radiohead_arpeggi_live_ether_27_03_05.mp3) (New song)
Where Bluebirds Fly (http://member.ycn.com/~ewwoess/tmp/radiohead_where_bluebirds_fly_live_ether_27_03_05.mp3)
Smear (http://members.telering.at/flowoess/jonny_greenwood_smear.mp3) (Arranged by Johnny Greenwood)

--

Radiohead ranks #73 on Rolling Stone's 'Immortals: 100 Greatest Artists of All Time'

Radiohead was nominated by Dave Matthews:


"Every time I buy a Radiohead album, I have a moment where I say to myself, "Maybe this is the one that will suck." But it never does. I wonder if it's even possible for them to be bad on record.

It belittles Radiohead to describe their music as having "hooks." Their music talks to you, in a real way. It can take you down a quiet street before it drops a beautiful musical bomb on you. It can build to where you think the whole thing will crumble beneath its own weight - and then Thom Yorke will sing some melody that just cuts your heart out of your chest.

There's a point on the album Kid A where I start feeling claustrophobic, stuck in a barbed-wire jungle - and then I suddenly fall out and I'm sitting by a pool with birds singing. Radiohead can do all of these things in a moment, and it drives me fucking crazy.

My reaction to Radiohead isn't as simple as jealousy. Jealousy just burns; Radiohead infuriate me. But if it were only that, I wouldn't go back and listen to those records again and again. Listening to Radiohead makes me fell like I'm a Salieri to their Mozart. Yorke's lyrics make me want to give up. I could never in my wildest dreams find something as beautiful as they find for a single song - let alone album after album. And every time, they raise their finger to the press and the critics and say, "Nothing we do is for you!". They followed their most critically acclaimed record, OK Computer, with their most radical change, Kid A. It's not that they're indifferent: It's just that the strength of character in their music is beyond their control.

Seeing them perform makes me even angrier. No matter how much they let go in their shows, they never lose their clarity. There's no point where Jonny Greewood or Ed O'Brien will suddenly look up and say "Where the fuck are we?" There are no train wrecks in Radiohead; every album and performance is wretching. God, these guys have suffered, or they can fake it like nobody else."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on April 15, 2005, 01:59:10 PM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
Radiohead was nominated by Dave Matthews

on an unrelated note, i am selling all my radiohead albums and merchandise.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: mogwai on April 15, 2005, 02:26:48 PM
radiowho?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on April 20, 2005, 11:15:04 PM
new live radiohead songs for download here: http://www.ateaseweb.com/news/archive/001742.php
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on April 21, 2005, 03:04:22 AM
that arpeggi track myxo leaked was pretty good. and the greenwood track smear was total penderecki.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on April 27, 2005, 10:56:01 PM
(http://www.boomspeed.com/allhailme/042705_britneycarlaughing.jpg)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on April 27, 2005, 10:56:53 PM
That's the only good one anyway
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SiliasRuby on April 28, 2005, 05:30:20 AM
Great pics mod. Where did you get them?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on April 28, 2005, 09:36:27 AM
somebodys blog i came across.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: mogwai on April 28, 2005, 09:53:23 AM
she's about 12 years late for buying that record. if only she realized that when it was out she wouldn't be in our throats every god damn day. she'd be as fucked up as courtney love is.

oh wait, she is.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 17, 2005, 05:20:18 PM
Radiohead Album Likely Due Next Spring
Source: Pitchfork

There are people who look forward to the first day of summer, those who dream of their wedding day, and those who happily prepare for the birth of their first child. Then, there are those who anxiously wait with bated breath for a new album from the Oxford quintet. For this special (and neurotic, with yours truly included) breed of people, the time for rejoicing is nearing. According to the fan site GreenPlastic.com, Radiohead will complete recording their new album by December, with plans for a release date in February or March 2006.

Currently, Radiohead are working on 15 songs with two described as "already done and amazing." Recording for the follow-up to 2003's Hail to the Thief commenced back in January in which frontman Thom Yorke played new songs for the rest of the band, who then contributed their own parts to them. While in keeping with Radiohead's oft-collaborative spirit, the seventh album's recording process, however, is said to be "unorganized" and markedly divergent from past practices.

After two years of sequestering themselves in sunny England, touring will be in order. Radiohead tentatively plan to play dates sometime around the album's release date. They haven't been completely dormant, though. In late March, Yorke and guitarist Jonny Greenwood performed with the London Sinfonietta as part of the South Bank's Ether Festival. At these two shows, the duo debuted "Arpeggi" and performed the B-side "Where Bluebirds Fly". Yorke performed a five-song solo acoustic set at the Trade Justice Rally in April, which included the never before heard "House of Cards" and "Last Flowers (Til the Hospital)". There is no word if "Arpeggi" and "House of Cards" are among the aforementioned two finished songs. Start salivating now, folks!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on May 17, 2005, 06:06:09 PM
It cracks me up when musicians refer to songs they have just recorded and noone but them has heard, as "AMAZING!" Limp Bizkit does this same tactic, nuff said. I'll believe it when I hear it assholes, stop overrating your own shit so quickly.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 17, 2005, 09:08:52 PM
Quote from: Stefen
I'll believe it when I hear it assholes, stop overrating your own shit so quickly.

What exactly is overrated?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on May 17, 2005, 10:11:13 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: Stefen
I'll believe it when I hear it assholes, stop overrating your own shit so quickly.

What exactly is overrated?


Their music to themselves. They'll release a bunch of blips and bleeps and call it r2d2 and it will be considered the best music since the last radiohead. I hope they go a different route. Then Bends and Ok Computer = FUCK YEAH!!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on May 17, 2005, 10:18:12 PM
Quote from: Stefen

Their music to themselves. They'll release a bunch of blips and bleeps and call it r2d2 and it will be considered the best music since the last radiohead. I hope they go a different route. Then Bends and Ok Computer = FUCK YEAH!!


Agreed completely.  I liked a few tracks on Kid A, but I think there's a complex of "Since Radiohead makes good tracks, I'll pay no mind to the filler in between."  Radiohead knows they're overrated, and they capitalize on it completely.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on May 17, 2005, 10:24:06 PM
Kid A has grown on me since I last heard it, god I hated it. Now I can tolerate it and even enjoy it. Same thing with amnesiac, it has some good tracks but is mostly rubbish. Hail To The Thief is pretty solid though, but only cause it has a few really good songs (go to sleep, sail to the moon, punchup at a wedding, and backdrifts) and the really good songs make it good, cause the rest of the track are AWFUL. Most overrated band thats pretty good ever.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on May 18, 2005, 10:28:30 AM
i'm glad they're not releasing anything this year, it would be a DEATH WISH.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 18, 2005, 10:54:27 AM
Quote from: Stefen
Same thing with amnesiac, it has some good tracks but is mostly rubbish.

I don't know what you and Walrus are talking about. Amnesiac is their best. I am a little ambivalent about Kid A sometimes, though, but maybe for different reasons.

Quote from: Walrus?
"Since Radiohead makes good tracks, I'll pay no mind to the filler in between."

See: The Bends.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on May 18, 2005, 11:09:19 AM
Quote from: Pubrick
i'm glad they're not releasing anything this year, it would be a DEATH WISH.


hahahahaha
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on May 18, 2005, 11:39:45 AM
For those who are fans, which are your favorite records?

Prepare for list!

1. Ok Computer
2. The Bends
3. Kid A
4. Hail to the Thief
5. Amnesiac
6. Pablo Honey
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on May 18, 2005, 11:53:42 AM
1.Hail to the Thief
2. Amnesiac
3. Kid A
4. OK Computer
5. The Bends
6. Pablo Honey
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 18, 2005, 12:49:08 PM
1. Amnesiac
2. OK Computer
3. Hail to the Thief
4. Kid A

5. The Bends


6. Pablo Honey
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on May 18, 2005, 02:38:31 PM
Following JB's demonstration...

1. Kid A
2. OK Computer
3. Hail to the Thief

4. Amnesiac
5. The Bends



6. Pablo Honey
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on May 18, 2005, 02:44:28 PM
1.  OK Computer
2.  Hail to the Thief
3.  Kid A
4.  The Bends

5.  Amnesiac
 
6.  Pablo Honey
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on May 18, 2005, 03:01:32 PM
ISGH
since nobody's got it right yet

Amnesiac
Hail to the Thief
Kid A
OK Computer

The Bends








Pablo Honey
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on May 18, 2005, 04:41:08 PM
nope...

if you accept what is true:

1.Kid A/Amnesia
2.OK Computer
3. Hail to the Thief

4. The Bends






5. Pablow Honey

otherwise Amnesiac is right under OK Computer.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on May 18, 2005, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate


otherwise Amnesiac is right under OK Computer.


So it either ties for first or falls into third?


As long as we can all agree... Pablo Honey sucks.

Except "Anyone Can Play Guitar" was Ok.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on May 18, 2005, 04:57:00 PM
Bends
Ok Computer
Hail To The Thief
Pablo Honey
Kid A
Amnesiac.
The beginning of Becks Summer Girl off of Guero.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on May 18, 2005, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: Walrus?

So it either ties for first or falls into third?


No, you just need to accept Kid A and Amnesiac as being the same album.  It's from the same sessions, they were just seperated... like Use Your Illusions I and II.

Some people have a problem with this so if it MUST be independant of Kid A, then that's where it falls.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: jtm on May 18, 2005, 05:52:12 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
nope...

if you accept what is true:

1.Kid A/Amnesia
2.OK Computer
3. Hail to the Thief

4. The Bends






5. Pablow Honey

otherwise Amnesiac is right under OK Computer.


this mo fo got it right.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 18, 2005, 07:57:05 PM
RK wins.

I'm still not exactly sure why I have such different opinions of Amnesiac and Kid A. I think Amnesiac is less apologetic. Half of Kid A is similar to OK Computer, kind of like HTTT... but Amnesiac is undivided.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on May 18, 2005, 08:34:43 PM
Ok Computer for me is the record that embodies the genius of Radiohead. You've got everything from music video friendly tracks to heart wrenching moments. The stars all aligned for that album and I have a hard time imagining them ever duplicating it.

The Bends put Radiohead on the map in terms of respect. Tons and tons of musicians started tuning in. It's a natural progression from a very immature Pablo Honey. I think alot of critics were blown away that this band could ever recover from 'Creep' and produce anything but a one-hit-wonder.

In my personal opinion, Kid A is Radiohead's most "complete" record from beginning to end. It must be taken in whole and I admit it took me a while to really appreciate that quality. It's outstanding music late at night on a long road trip. People can just chill out.

Amnesiac feels like leftovers to me. It is fucking brilliant, so don't get me wrong. But I've always felt like it was a very easy record to skip from track to track on. I can't say that about the above three albums.

Pablo Honey is what it is. Being a debut album, I wonder if the band would be anything at all without the success of 'Creep' and the madness that followed. For me, Ripcord is a great track.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on May 18, 2005, 08:50:24 PM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
The Bends put Radiohead on the map in terms of respect.

who cares what it did, it sucks now.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on May 18, 2005, 10:47:06 PM
to those who are not putting OK Computer as number 1, (i'm talking in relation to Radiohead, yet it also happens to be my number 1 overall) when did you get into the band? meaning what was the first album you bought or at least really got into? for me it was OKC, after i couldn't get the Karma Police video and melody out of my mind.

to play the game:

OK Computer
Kid A             The Bends
Amnesiac
          Hail to the Thief

for Kid A and The Bends i will probably like which ever one i'm listening to at the time. slight edge to Kid A because of it's cohesiveness. i used to rank Amnesiac a little lower, but it took me a while to get it. HTTT, though it has been out a while, is still "new." probably won't comprehend it's worth until the next LP comes out.



oh yeah,
Pablo Picasso.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on May 18, 2005, 11:08:46 PM
Yeah, I think people who don't list either the bends or ok computer as their favorite means they started listening to radiohead when everyone else did, when Kid A came out or were late and came around when Amnesiac came out. Cause I have a hard time believing how amnesiac and kid a are better than their last two.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on May 18, 2005, 11:16:22 PM
Quote from: Stefen
Yeah, I think people who don't list either the bends or ok computer as their favorite means they started listening to radiohead when everyone else did, when Kid A came out or were late and came around when Amnesiac came out. Cause I have a hard time believing how amnesiac and kid a are better than their last two.



they've done better than the bends and ok computer, regardless of their fame. i set my list chronologicaly backwards because i think  they get better each time they release an album.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sleuth on May 18, 2005, 11:16:47 PM
Pablo Honey on cassette.  I don't know if everyone here was alive in 93, but Creep was sort of a big thing
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 18, 2005, 11:51:00 PM
Quote from: bigideas
to those who are not putting OK Computer as number 1, (i'm talking in relation to Radiohead, yet it also happens to be my number 1 overall) when did you get into the band?

Quote from: Stefen
Yeah, I think people who don't list either the bends or ok computer as their favorite means they started listening to radiohead when everyone else did, when Kid A came out or were late and came around when Amnesiac came out.

I started with OK Computer.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on May 18, 2005, 11:54:44 PM
haha, i'll believe it when i see it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on May 19, 2005, 06:44:36 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: bigideas
to those who are not putting OK Computer as number 1, (i'm talking in relation to Radiohead, yet it also happens to be my number 1 overall) when did you get into the band?

Quote from: Stefen
Yeah, I think people who don't list either the bends or ok computer as their favorite means they started listening to radiohead when everyone else did, when Kid A came out or were late and came around when Amnesiac came out.

I started with OK Computer.


ok. do you think you were artistically mature at the time?
for me, it was the album that made me think of music in a different way, the same way Vertigo was to film for me.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on May 19, 2005, 08:52:17 AM
Quote from: Stefen
haha, i'll believe it when i see it.

it's the opposite actually. the ppl who are listing OK Computer and the Bends at the top are only doing it cos they hav the emotional attachment of probably having discovered them at that time. whereas the ones listing Amnesiac/Kid A/HttT are actually ranking them based on what's good, not what they think makes them seem "more down".
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on May 19, 2005, 10:46:54 AM
Quote from: Stefen
Yeah, I think people who don't list either the bends or ok computer as their favorite means they started listening to radiohead when everyone else did, when Kid A came out or were late and came around when Amnesiac came out. Cause I have a hard time believing how amnesiac and kid a are better than their last two.


Part of it has to do with how old you are really..

I'm 28 and Ok Computer came out when I was 20 and right in the middle of my "discovery" of great music. Alot of people here are in their early 20s and I suspect never had a chance to enjoy the music "scene" in the late 90s away from high school. So, it makes sense that Kid A/Amnesiac/HTTT are favorite records for others.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on May 19, 2005, 12:38:39 PM
Quote from: Stefen
Yeah, I think people who don't list either the bends or ok computer as their favorite means they started listening to radiohead when everyone else did, when Kid A came out or were late and came around when Amnesiac came out.


Not necessarily.

Pablo came out when I was in high school.  I picked up the Creep "cassingle" (that's a word I've not heard in a long time... long time) with Faithless, the Wonder Boy on.  Good songs but I wasn't inspired to buy the album.

Bends came out my freshman year of college.  Since I didn't have a TV in college, I missed the genius that was the Just video and I missed the album altogether because all the hippie fucks on my floor in my dorm were playing Phish, the Grateful Dead, 311, and Dave Matthews.  I wanted to saw my own head off.  I immersed myself instead in the exact opposite of all that shit: funk (real funk - Parliament, Brothers Johnson, Slave, Prince, etc., not Blood Sugar Sex Magik).  So I had no idea.

My first exposure to OK was when I went to England in the summer of 97 and randomly caught the last half of Paranoid Android on MTV.  I'm watching this cartoon of a naked fat guy chopping down a light pole and I was like, "What the fuck is this?" Turns out it was, as I exclaimed, "The fucking 'Creep' guys?!"  The rest is history.

The thing is, OK is phenomenal from start to finish but Kid A was a musical revelation as far as I'm concerned.  The first time I heard it, it knocked me on my ass.

As for Amnesiac, it's great and it's more out there than Kid A is in a lot of respects but it's more inconsistent.  But I think that if you want definitive Radiohead, you need the one-two punch of OK and Kid A, Kid A having the upper hand for sheer originality.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on May 19, 2005, 01:31:04 PM
My experience started with Pablo Honey, like most people my age... like Trem pointed out, it was kind of a big deal.

It pulled me sufficiently out of my metal phase.  I sold my Megadeth, Metallica, etc... CDs (not that metal was all I was into... I had already started to grow tired of it... those were just the only CDs I had) and I bought with the money PH on CD.

I was huge into Creep for the longest time and a few other songs, then I got bored and way into Nirvana and then Nine Inch Nails and forgot PH completely.  Then the Bends came out and hooked me again.  Once I heard the first ten seconds of Paranoid Android though, I realized they were geniuses and after OKC was released, I wouldn't listen to anything else for pretty much two and a half years.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on May 19, 2005, 01:53:45 PM
If thats the case rk, it seems like the bends and ok computer changed your life, how can you put kid a and amnesiac ahead of them? And if Pablo Honey was the album that got you into radiohead, how can you refer to it as pablow honey? The first three are so different from the next two that they really aernt comparable, you would need two seperate lists really. Rate the first three, then on a second list rate the next two. And you can throw in httt in whichever list you want. Thats the way it should go. Radiohead are like the styx of our generation.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on May 19, 2005, 02:14:44 PM
Quote from: Stefen
If thats the case rk, it seems like the bends and ok computer changed your life, how can you put kid a and amnesiac ahead of them? And if Pablo Honey was the album that got you into radiohead, how can you refer to it as pablow honey?


I put Kid A where it is because that's where it goes.  I didn't think I needed to finish my story, but it goes on like this "...then Kid A came out and it was the most impressive album I had ever heard.  'Everything in it's right place' indeed."

as far as Pablo Honey goes... it is what it is... I was in HighSchool when it came out... I don't like a lot of the shit I liked in High-School... I still listen to it every once in a while though.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 19, 2005, 03:56:41 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate

No, you just need to accept Kid A and Amnesiac as being the same album.  It's from the same sessions, they were just seperated... like Use Your Illusions I and II..

yes, but because they were released seperately they must be judged seperately.  like Kill Bill.  because when split, it tends to ruin one half as it did here when radiohead probably could've released a single album (sans filler) of the best thing ever heard by mankind (possibly even to rival OK Computer in its greatness), they instead started a slow path to snoozeville.

tracklist for Kid Amnesiac
1. I Might Be Wrong
2. Idioteque
3. Morning Bell
4. You And Whose Army?
5. The National Anthem
6. How To Disappear Completely
7. Pyramid Song
8. Optimistic
9. Motion Picture Soundtrack
10. Morning Bell/Amnesiac
11. Like Spinning Plates
12. Life In A Glass House


although i actually prefer the live versions of many of those tracks to the 'cold' studio versions.  but mine would probably go like this...

1. OK Computer
2. Kid A / The Bends
4. Hail To The Theif
5. Amnesiac




6. Pablo Sucky

though the Airbag EP and I Might Be Wrong EP i probably enjoy more than the last couple.  though i might have to agree with P as far as ranking The Bends as highly as i did. though OK is timeless.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on May 19, 2005, 10:47:40 PM
actually your ranking is almost exaclty like mine.

i don't see how you can call Everything In It's Right Place filler.

i just listened to Amnesiac straight through after leaving Episode III.
there are a lot of simlarities between the two. i remember Thom saying that Kid A was like looking at the fire from afar, yet Amnesiac is right in the middle of it.  it wasn't until last year that i put Amnesiac up there with the holy trinity of TheBends through Kid A, but i now see it as a solid very cohesive album. i never hated it, i just appreciate it a lot more.

HTTT is still relatively "new," but i just feel it's way too long. all the songs are good, but i think it would have been better to trim it down some and release and EP with them. i'm also growing less fond of Nigel Godrich's production. it keeps getting slicker and slicker.

no doubt i will buy the new album on it's release date. hopefully the song that i took my username from will be released. i think there is a good chance since Thom performed it a few months ago.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Ultrahip on May 31, 2005, 07:37:40 PM
you can buy the radio berlin cd, and big ideas is on that. so is bishops robes and some other obscure goodies. when does the new album arrive?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on June 04, 2005, 07:30:34 PM
here's a cut-up a friend of mine did out of youknowwhichsong


What's that, from a great height?
Little piggy-rain, down on me.
Height the panic the dust and the screaming you don't remember.
I am king, you don't remember, from all the unborn chicken

God voices the yuppies networking the vomit
that sir of pig skin kicking his head,
from the great height makes you look pretty ugly

I am the noise king you don't remember
against the wall trying to get some sleep
I guess he does, why don't you?

The king loves his children
"What's that?"
God loves his children
"What's that?"
The panic loves his children
Yeah
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on September 11, 2005, 01:43:33 PM
i think the new song is great.
just Thom and piano with backup Thoms.
pretty much a mixture of I Will and How I Made My Millions.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Reinhold on September 11, 2005, 07:18:50 PM
i got planet acoustic today. listened to most of it.... dig it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on September 11, 2005, 09:57:35 PM
i'm guessing this is some kind of bootleg of live acoustic performances?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on September 11, 2005, 10:43:41 PM
new radiohead song on compilation, (not sure if this is what bigideas is talking about hearing)

The ’Help: A Day In The Life’ tracklisting will run:

    * Antony and the Johnsons – ‘Happy Xmas (War is Over)’
    * Babyshambles – ‘Bollywood To Battersea’
    * Belle & Sebastian – ‘The Eighth Station of the Cross Kebab House’
    * Bloc Party – ‘The Present’
    * Coldplay – ‘How You See The World’
    * The Coral – ‘It Was Nothing’
    * Damien Rice – ‘Crosseyed Bear’
    * Elbow – ‘Snowball’
    * Emmanuel Jal – ‘Gua’
    * The Go! Team – ‘Phantom Broadcast’
    * Gorillaz – ‘Hong Kong’
    * Hard-Fi – ‘Help Me Please’
    * Kaiser Chiefs – ‘I Heard It Through the Grapevine’
    * Keane and Faultline – ‘Goodbye Yellow Brick Road’
    * The Magic Numbers – ‘Gone Are the Days’
    * Manic Street Preachers – ‘Leviathan’
    * Maximo Park – ‘Waste Land’
    * Mylo – ‘Mars Needs Women’
   * Radiohead – ‘I Want None of It’
    * Razorlight – ‘Kirby's House’
    * Tinariwen – ‘Cler Achel’
    * The Zutons – ‘Hello Conscience’

’Help: A Day In The Life’ will be released on CD through Independiente on September 26.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on September 11, 2005, 10:48:36 PM
I'm pretty sure that's what he's talking about.

I've listened to it.  It's good and all, but it's certainly nothing new, just basic throw-away Radiohead track.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on September 11, 2005, 11:22:05 PM
Sounds like a cool compilation though (Rather, it would be sans Go-Team)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on September 12, 2005, 07:20:07 PM
yes, that's what i was talking about.

i hope i get to a place in my songwriting where i could write a song like that and it be considered a throw away.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 13, 2005, 04:41:17 PM
you can download the NEW Radiohead song on iTunes now.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on October 13, 2005, 07:58:10 PM
dude, are you talking about the "new" radiohead song that you were talking about a month ago?  Because that and Lucky are the only ones I see there.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 13, 2005, 08:41:55 PM
i was talking about Lucky.  if it's any indication, there new album will be their best one yet!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SHAFTR on October 14, 2005, 03:40:38 AM
Quote from: modage
i was talking about Lucky.  if it's any indication, there new album will be their best one yet!


...Lucky is on OK Computer.

EDIT:  I'm going to assume you were being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on December 29, 2005, 11:11:02 AM
Radiohead album - the band speak / Tour plans, producer and album progress revealed
Source: NME

Radiohead have revealed they plan to tour this spring, plus have given an insight into their forthcoming album.

The band, who have been working in the studio on new material during large parts of this year, say they will play some small scale UK dates in 2006 to unveil new songs to fans.

"We are going to tour next year, definitely," Ed O'Brien told Zane Lowe on his Radio 1 show last night (December 21). "Hopefully we're going to have a couple of tracks to download by about April or May. But we're going to go out in May, we're going to do some theatres because part of what we're doing is play new material. It's a good way to get your shit together."

O'Brien explained the band will do UK and European dates in May before heading to America in the summer. He said the band hoped they would have around ten new songs in their set by then.

Discussing the album itself, the guitarist said there was no confirmed release date yet, but said Radiohead planned more recording sessions in February.

"We've been talking to (producer) Mark 'Spike' Stent, who's worked with Madonna and Bjork and hopefully in February we'll reconvene with him," said O'Brien. "We've got some great songs but we won't release something we're not happy with. The thing with Radiohead is that each record has a different sound, it's really hard finding something that's different and sits well with us."

With the band planning to work with Stent, O'Brien confirmed their long-term producer Nigel Godrich would not be involved in the new record.

"It's not an end of an era, (but) part of what your realise as a band is that all those records you made with Nigel, apart from 'Hail To The Thief' we were a little bit in the comfort zone," he explained. "That's why you make records like 'Kid A' after 'OK Computer', that's why you make 'OK Computer' after 'The Bends', you've got to do stuff that you're scared of doing. With Nigel, we've been working together for 10 years, and we all love one another too much."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on February 23, 2006, 03:52:45 PM
Radiohead Recording Nude/Big Ideas (Don't Get Any)
Source: Pitchfork

Speaking of Radiohead, the internet is presently a-buzz with news that the lads have resurrected the OK Computer-era track "Nude" for inclusion on their forthcoming studio record. Also known as "Big Ideas (Don't Get Any)", the recorded version will reportedly feature a string quartet. Wrote Thom on the always-quotable Radiohead blog:

"jonny is hastily writing out scores for a string quartet who are comign tommoro. right now we are working on nude, it sounds beautiful, as far as i can tell. i hope we dont get i'll. there is a lot of sickness about. especially for the children."

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that is awesome.  hopefully they wont fuck it up.

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on February 23, 2006, 07:44:16 PM
"jonny is hastily writing out scores for a string quartet who are comign tommoro. right now we are working on nude, it sounds beautiful, as far as i can tell. i hope we dont get i'll. there is a lot of sickness about. especially for the children."

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that is awesome.  hopefully they wont fuck it up.


Does he write his own lyrics?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on February 23, 2006, 10:36:59 PM
yessssss..........i am so excited. that is the song my username comes from. i hope they stick closely to the hammond organ version like on MPIE. i didn't know it at the time, but it may make it sound a little too much like Whiter Shade of Pale, but i just love that song. i always get so excited when they update a lot on their doings. "wellverb" looks insane. i guess they lowered a speaker down into a well.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on February 24, 2006, 09:00:45 AM
that is awesome.  hopefully they wont fuck it up.
yeah, hopefully the greatest heart surgeon who ever lived won't fuck up that heart operation.

let em do their job. they know what they're doing.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Alexandro on February 24, 2006, 01:01:42 PM
You have to admit Radiohead was pretty cool before they became uber-pretentious. I'll listen to their stuff up until Kid A.


Why is Kid A pretentious? Why is Amnesiac or Hail to the Thief pretentious? Whats so pretentious about them?? Please, I wanna know. Cause I prefer anything Radiohead releases in this new "pretentious" phase, to pretty much anything that anyone else releases these days....what's so pretentious about good music that doesn't correspond to the norm??? Is it that they don't make specific singles anymore?? They don't rock like they used to??? Please, I need someone to eloquently elaborate on this cause it's been years and people still say theyre pretentious just for making experimental records...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on February 24, 2006, 01:02:48 PM
You have to admit Radiohead was pretty cool before they became uber-pretentious. I'll listen to their stuff up until Kid A.


Why is Kid A pretentious? Why is Amnesiac or Hail to the Thief pretentious? Whats so pretentious about them?? Please, I wanna know.
well you're not gonna get a defense from the person you quoted. RIP.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Alexandro on February 24, 2006, 01:31:29 PM
You have to admit Radiohead was pretty cool before they became uber-pretentious. I'll listen to their stuff up until Kid A.


Why is Kid A pretentious? Why is Amnesiac or Hail to the Thief pretentious? Whats so pretentious about them?? Please, I wanna know.
well you're not gonna get a defense from the person you quoted. RIP.

Fuck, I don't even know why I quoted that....2003?!??! Gotta stop smoking this shit.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sickfins on February 25, 2006, 12:59:04 AM
Fuck, I don't even know why I quoted that....2003?!??! Gotta stop smoking this shit.

i did exactly the same thing yesterday

no joke.  how did i not realize i was looking at page one   :yabbse-undecided:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on March 20, 2006, 07:37:01 PM
Radiohead Music in Film, Thom Yorke Goes Solo
Source: Pitchfork

Richard Linklater, Keanu Reeves, Philip K. Dick, Thom Yorke. What do these people have in common? A movie, of course.

Verifying a rumor that has been floating around the interweb for months, Entertainment Weekly revealed last week that Radiohead will contribute music to Before Sunrise / School of Rock director Richard Linklater's adaptation of Philip K. Dick's cult science fiction book A Scanner Darkly. The film, which stars Keanu Reeves, is due in theaters July 7.

Although the band won't be responsible for the flick's entire score, Warner Independent Pictures told EW that A Scanner Darkly will "feature music by Radiohead, including a brand-new track from lead singer Thom Yorke's upcoming solo release." We're eager to watch Keanu Reev-- wait, WHAT? A Thom Yorke solo album?!?! Since when did he go all Beyonce on us? Or rather, since when did he go all Jonny Greenwood?

Of course, Radiohead keeps its official news guarded like the Pentagon, so we'll have to wait until some huge corporate magazine finds out what's going on before we can give you more information on Thom's solo jawn.

As for the new Radiohead album, we can only assume that's what Yorke was referring to last week when he posted on Radiohead's blog a week ago about "furiously writing, working out parts. cracking up. not much time left. unshure about everything." Unless he's coming up with a new soufflé recipe.

Yorke and Greenwood will perform at Friends of the Earth's The Big Ask Live benefit concert at KoKo in London on May 1. The charity event is sold out, but scalpers are selling tickets online for obscene sums of money. Naturally, this makes the band, and the charity, very angry. Buy one of those, and you are an Enemy of the Earth.

Radiohead have also slowly started fleshing out their summer touring plans. They will perform at the Sziget Festival in Hungary sometime between August 9 and 16, at the V Festival at Weston Park in Staffordshire, England on August 20, and, of course, at Bonnaroo in Tennessee on June 16-18.

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on March 20, 2006, 07:41:14 PM
YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS.


I just collapsed into a twitchy, quivering ball of excitement.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on March 21, 2006, 04:55:38 PM
There was a radiohead (or just Yorke) song at the end of the film that I don't think I've ever heard before.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on March 21, 2006, 06:52:36 PM
There was a radiohead (or just Yorke) song at the end of the film that I don't think I've ever heard before.

you got to see the movie already?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on March 21, 2006, 07:18:55 PM
There was a radiohead (or just Yorke) song at the end of the film that I don't think I've ever heard before.

you got to see the movie already?
yes, as revealed in the movie's thread. (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=6164.msg220334#msg220334)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on March 21, 2006, 08:43:20 PM
The rest of the above article:

Radiohead has been working on a followup album to 2003's politically charged Hail to the Thief for months now, though no official timetable has been set for its release. However, the band said that it planned to release "music to download when we are excited about it, rather than wait 12 months for a full-blown album release."

In a post on the band's official Website, frontman Thom Yorke elaborated further on what the band has in store for its fans.

"By the way, listening back to things we are doing and looking through the lyrics today and stuff, it feels like we are finally getting somewhere," Yorke wrote. "There are lots of songs. Too many to get together straight away. So we will be furiously rehearsing and writing as we go."

Yorke, who will appear with Radiohead guitarist Jonny Greenwood at the Friends of the Earth's Big Ask Campaign benefit concert at London's Koko Club on May 1, also chastised those profiting off of tickets to the event by selling them on eBay at inflated prices.

"Might i suggest that those selling their Koko tickets on eBay for stupid money gives a contribution, say 30 percent of their proceeds, back to Friends of the Earth, for whose benefit we are all doing this show," Yorke wrote. "Seems only fair, unless you're a shallow ____, dont you think?"

The musician serves as an official ambassador for the charity, which is calling for international cuts in greenhouse gas emissions.

Despite his support for the cause, he recently turned down the chance to discuss climate change with British Prime Minister Tony Blair on its behalf, on the grounds that Blair has "no environmental credentials."

"It was just obvious there was no point in meeting him anyway, and I didn't want to," he said in an interview in British magazine New Music Express.

Yorke said the experience soured him on political activism in general.

"I came out of that whole period just thinking, I don't want to get involved directly, it's poison," he said. "I'll just shout my mouth off from the sidelines."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on March 21, 2006, 09:13:14 PM
Fuck yes.

You wanna know how excited I am? I'll show you how excited I am.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a175/Leven321/excited.gif)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sickfins on April 09, 2006, 09:31:27 PM
ok computer, almost ten years old
i feel terrible
thoughts
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on April 09, 2006, 09:46:27 PM
there has not been a better album since. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ono on April 09, 2006, 10:23:10 PM
It shows its age, and aside from Paranoid Android, Exit Music (For A Film) and a few other tracks, it really isn't all that great an album.  While some would call it "filler," I don't really see it that way, or give any band so little credit as to think they don't realize what works and what doesn't.  I can't find it in myself to write off any track other than Subterranean Homesick Alien and Let Down.  All the others have their moments, but I wouldn't praise them to high heavens either.

As a concept album, it's still one of the best around, but as timeless rock ... nah.  Hail to the Thief is the best thing they've done, an album that continuously blows minds and reveals its riches with each subsequent play.  Critics of the album are so locked into a prescriptivist mindset, that they're simply unable to let a talented band evolve and explore all they're capable of.  Some claim it's too long, and I might see where they'd be right if every track wasn't necessary to complete the whole.

The album works in three movements.  2+2=5 is the essence of what rock should be.  Disagree?  Well, that's because... "you have not been paying attention."  I have a live performance that sends chills down my spine everytime I watch it.  Sit Down, Stand Up is foreboding and apocalyptic.  Sail to the Moon is an achingly beautiful lullaby.  The next three tracks are merely decent with Go to Sleep being the other stand-out, granting the fact that its video gives it much of the boost it needs.

The second movement begins with one of the most unique, possibly off-putting songs they've ever done, the death dirge We Suck Young Blood.  Love it or hate it, it leaves an impression.  The witching continues with the Gloaming, a perfect palate cleanser for what, if it weren't for Paranoid Android, Kid A, or Street Spirit (Fade Out), would probably be Radiohead's magnum opus: There There.  Everytime I hear it, I can't understand how a song so simple can be so rich.  It toes the line between rock and pop and is endlessly catchy and poignant.  Three sets of drums, two guitars (live, anyway), and it all works.  Seeing it live, again, just underscores how they're able to pluck ideas from the ether and mold them into something tangible.  And I don't feel so green and lonely when it's over.  I Will brings you down from the heavens and readies you for the album's closing which is equally as strong.

Piano and poignant lyrics pepper the peppy Punch Up At A Wedding.  "The pointed, snide remarks of hammerheaded sharks," indeed.  Myxomatosis is an idea personified, buzzing in like the disease itself, injecting itself in your brain.  Scatterbrain is a little weaker, but still beautiful in its own way.  The remix on Com Lag makes it worth the effort.  The album closes out with A Wolf At The Door, another of the album's best tracks, proving that the best art is borne out of personal experience.  Dance, you fucker.

Don't get me started on how Kid Amnesiac also destroys OK Computer.  I wouldn't go so far as to say every album is better than the last.  Amnesiac is amazing, but doesn't quite edge out Kid A.  And at times I find myself liking The Bends better than OK Computer.  It's a toss-up there.

Their next album, from all indications, will be a departure from even that, from what I've read on other sites and here as well.  Where can they go?  Where Bluebirds Fly and Arpeggi are indications of the style they'll probably seek out.  This will be a return to Kid Amnesiac material, but even more ethereal, atmospheric, and natural.  Organic.  Maybe an effort to remove even more language from their music.  They'll alienate even more people in the process, and I can't wait.  Radiohead has grown more and more able to conceptualize music as an expression of feelings with fewer and fewer words.  They didn't start out to do this, unlike bands such as Sigur Ros, but this was more of a realization along the way that they had the talent and needed to capitalize on it.  They have the uncanny ability to play with words, keying in on certain phrases and making mundane expressions more and more profound.  Case in point, the juxtaposition of How to Disappear Completely and Idioteque in "I'm not here, this isn't happening" and "This is really happening."  Denial and acceptance.  This skill is peppered all throughout Hail to the Thief as well.

This was longer than I meant it to be, but you can't just say "OK Computer is overrated and Hail to the Thief, much like Eyes Wide Shut, will get its due as a masterpiece one day" without elaborating.  So I did.

Sidenote: Fog was used on last week's episode of The OC.  A Radiohead track used on a TV show?  That's crazy, Mr. Chubbs!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 09, 2006, 10:38:04 PM
i like Amnesiac and HTTT quite a bit, but there's something about the sound of them.........once someone pointed out how they were mastered - they even had .jpg's of the wave files of the tracks showing how i think they were almost distorting. HTTT picked up too much of the LA vibe - as it was made there. HTTT is definitely too long, though i like all the tracks. Sail to the Moon as the 3rd track on an album? it's an album closer. i know Wolf at the Door does well there, but STTM never feels right there.

OKC is perfectly sequenced.
the perfect album to listen to from beginning to end on headphones with eyes closed.
the perfect album.
not a weak track imo.
Let Down is actually on my favorites.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ono on April 09, 2006, 10:46:22 PM
I think the reason I have a problem with Let Down, and why I don't agree about the perfect sequencing, is Exit Music is just too good.  Operatic in its build up and let down, waves crashing, children laughing, you're taken away from consciousness after that song, and Let Down sounds like a jumble.  It's the same reason I don't like Subterranean Homesick Alien too much.  What precedes it, Paranoid Android, is too powerful.  And for all we're promised in that powerful opening (you think Airbag rocks, then you get Paranoid Android), the end of the album is just too slow.  Karma Police kinda sits there in no-man's land.  Fitter Happier is an okay bridge.  The only other song that really rocks though is Electioneering, and though I like it, I know it's not too much of a favorite among other fans.  And while I understand the appeal of tracks like Lucky and The Tourist, in theory they're great, but they've never been much of a draw for me.

Want to talk perfect album to listen to, to zone out to, on headphones, lights off: Kid A (or The Moon and Antarctica, but that's neither here nor there).  I think Everything In Its Right Place is overrated, but what follows more than makes up for it.  It truly can transport you if you let it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on April 10, 2006, 12:08:06 AM
I agree that Kid-A flows a little better than OK Computer, but to say "it really isn't all that great an album" is kind of bullshit.
OK Computer is WAY better than HTTT, but if they follow the Beatles pattern they've been following, the next could be the best (or at least MY favorite).

(this isn't exact, but based off the major US releases):

Everything before Rubber Soul = Pablo Honey (fun bubble gum, hardly go back)
Rubber Soul = The Bends (Excellent album, shows serious progress and makes you realize what a great band they are)
Revolver = OK Computer (The more serious experimentation kicks in and the first brilliant album)
Sgt. Pepper = Kid A (the most experimental stuff... brilliant throughout)
Magical Mystery Tour = Amnesiac (pretty much leftovers from Kid Pepper, but leftovers from the best meal you've ever eaten are stil delicious)
White Album = Hail to the Thief (Stipping away JUST enough of the experimentation, but maybe cramming too much in... resulting in a minor step down)
Next Album = Abbey Road

Then we can look forward to the sloppiest album they've ever released followed by a quick break-up, some solo albums, then death.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: polkablues on April 10, 2006, 12:23:46 AM
And if you play Myxomatosis backwards it says "Jonny Greenwood is dead."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on April 10, 2006, 08:02:33 AM
And if you play Myxomatosis backwards it says "Jonny Greenwood is dead."
i wouldnt know if it said that FORWARDS.   :yabbse-thumbdown:  because that 'song' sucks.  i have to skip it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on April 10, 2006, 10:28:56 AM
aside from Paranoid Android, Exit Music (For A Film) and a few other tracks, it really isn't all that great an album.

And if you play Myxomatosis backwards it says "Jonny Greenwood is dead."
i wouldnt know if it said that FORWARDS. :yabbse-thumbdown: because that 'song' sucks. i have to skip it.

I think Everything In Its Right Place is overrated

Sidenote: Fog was used on last week's episode of The OC.  A Radiohead track used on a TV show?  That's crazy, Mr. Chubbs!

BLASPHEMERS! 



I agree that Kid-A flows a little better than OK Computer, but to say "it really isn't all that great an album" is kind of bullshit.
OK Computer is WAY better than HTTT, but if they follow the Beatles pattern they've been following, the next could be the best (or at least MY favorite).

(this isn't exact, but based off the major US releases):

Everything before Rubber Soul = Pablo Honey (fun bubble gum, hardly go back)
Rubber Soul = The Bends (Excellent album, shows serious progress and makes you realize what a great band they are)
Revolver = OK Computer (The more serious experimentation kicks in and the first brilliant album)
Sgt. Pepper = Kid A (the most experimental stuff... brilliant throughout)
Magical Mystery Tour = Amnesiac (pretty much leftovers from Kid Pepper, but leftovers from the best meal you've ever eaten are stil delicious)
White Album = Hail to the Thief (Stipping away JUST enough of the experimentation, but maybe cramming too much in... resulting in a minor step down)
Next Album = Abbey Road

Then we can look forward to the sloppiest album they've ever released followed by a quick break-up, some solo albums, then death.

This is correct.  :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on April 10, 2006, 05:58:30 PM
i cant agree with the beatles analogy if only because HTTT was their worst since their first and The White Album is the best ever.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: squints on April 10, 2006, 06:50:06 PM
Then we can look forward to the sloppiest album they've ever released followed by a quick break-up, some solo albums, then death.

(http://stereogum.com/img/whoisthisdude.jpg)

In a tragic turn of events, a fat Jared Leto will murder Thom Yorke.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on April 10, 2006, 07:23:02 PM
i cant agree with the beatles analogy if only because HTTT was their worst since their first and The White Album is the best ever.

It's okay to be wrong once, Mod, but twice in the same sentence?  jeez
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: squints on April 10, 2006, 09:13:19 PM
i cant agree with the beatles analogy if only because HTTT was their worst since their first and The White Album is the best ever.

It's okay to be wrong once, Mod, but twice in the same sentence?  jeez

I'm with mod, not so much for HTTT, but the White Album is the best ever!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 10, 2006, 10:07:16 PM
Kid A definitely flows better............cause it actually flows together a la Side B of Abbey Road.
Kid A was definitely made with vinyl in mind........Treefingers is the perfect meditative end to Side A, Optimistic is a rocking way to start Side B.

OK Computer is still my favorite album of all time though.
Someone will have to make something unfathomable for that to ever change for me.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ono on April 10, 2006, 10:27:12 PM
Sidenote: Fog was used on last week's episode of The OC.  A Radiohead track used on a TV show?  That's crazy, Mr. Chubbs!
BLASPHEMERS! 
Haha, I don't see how fact can be considered as such.

As for anything else, "you don't know good."   "Open your mind."  Blah.  Depressing.  P said it best, actually:

Quote from: Pubrick
it's the opposite actually. the ppl who are listing OK Computer and the Bends at the top are only doing it cos they hav the emotional attachment of probably having discovered them at that time. whereas the ones listing Amnesiac/Kid A/HttT are actually ranking them based on what's good, not what they think makes them seem "more down".

This thread was pseudo-resurrected with comments as to OK Computer's relevance after almost 10 years (almost 9, actually).  So far, nothing much of substance has been said.  OK Computer seems to have this little curve which tapers off in this way:
Code: [Select]
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Meaning, first impressions for someone who's just encountered the album are not that great, but somewhere along the way, one track or another registers with you, and it all comes to light.  This is how most great albums are.  Problem is, staying power.  I won't deny the poignancy, the anger channeled through art, in some of their songs, but I think a couple reek of shallowness: ironic considering it's what they tried to attack.  And I criticize the album so much because it's constantly hailed as one of the greatest ever: a statement which makes no sense, as a bunch of good tracks on an album with a poignant concept make not the "best ever."

To put it into perspective, I'd rank them as so: 1) Hail to the Thief, 2) Kid A, Tied for 3: Amnesiac/OK Computer/The Bends, 6) Pablo Honey.

OK Computer's problem is it drifts off and meanders.  It wants to be this indictment of a society dependent too much on technology, loses its focus and attention-grabbing power of its first songs, and only scratches the surface of what could have been.  As a concept album, Kid Amnesiac works better.  Kid A being in the middle of disaster, Amnesiac after the fact, from a distance.

Airbag's tongue-in-cheek, solid (and for someone who likes OK Computer so much, mod, I can't see how you don't appreciate Myxomatosis more -- the buzzing guitars here and there are so similar).  Paranoid Android is one the best things they've ever done, ironic considering how they created the song, melding three songs and apeing The Beatles.  Subterranean Homesick Alien was supposed to ape Dylan, and a dream Yorke had, but failed in saying anything meaningful.  Exit Music wakes us up, and though I admire its brilliance, it's hard to ever completely accept a song as part of an album if it was created first for a film.  Let Down is a letdown -- just puts me to sleep.  Karma Police is solid, but much like Everything In Its Right Place, overrated (I compare the two as staples of Radiohead, much loved and lauded, trying to say something yet just falling short).  It indicts a shallowness that it's guilty of perpetuating -- the crimes called out aren't worth whinging about.  Maybe that's tongue-in-cheek, and if so, fine -- but that leaves us with a song that doesn't say much at all -- just mocks those who try.  Fitter Happier is a great experiment.  Electioneering is the last real rock song on here -- solid.  Climbing Up the Walls is creepy and spooky, yet irrelevant.  No Surprises is another solid yet overrated track.  Lucky is a great mirror for Airbag, and a song that's great in theory yet lacking in staying power and execution.  The Tourist lingers on for too long and is part of the problem with why this album seems to drag out for so long, though the ending instrumental is a nice punctuation.

I don't say any of this to antagonize, but to provoke thought.  I appreciate OK Computer.  Wouldn't write about it if I didn't.  But there's more to music than that, and Radiohead realized this a long time ago when they set to make Kid Amnesiac and Hail to the Thief.  And they're gonna do it again.  If you're receptive, you reap the rewards of that.  If not, then you're just stuck in 1997.

Fun fact: OK Computer is 53:21; Hail to the Thief is 56:30, three minutes, two songs longer, with perhaps only two songs expendable (but which two being subjective -- I'd lose Where I End and You Begin, and either Backdrifts or Scatterbrain).  How soon people forget.  Here's what I've never really understood, though: Why do people even complain that albums are "too long?"  Shouldn't they be happy that a good artist is giving them more?  Just like good movies are never too long, as it is with albums.  I guess that's why I enjoy all 56 minutes of Hail to the Thief so much, and lament that Amnesiac is so short by most standards.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 11, 2006, 01:16:38 PM
Am I still alone in thinking that Amnesiac is better (leagues better, even) than Kid A?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ono on April 11, 2006, 01:27:43 PM
I wouldn't say better, just a different beast.  Apples and oranges.  It's a funny thing that happened to me with that one.  It and The Bends were the ones that took the longest for me to fully appreciate.  What I've found with Amnesiac that hurts it is its track structure.  All of its power is loaded on the back end, so there is no real flow from one song to the next like with Kid A.  But once Dollars & Cents kicks in, you know you're in for a treat, and the album actually closes out with its best track, Life In A Glass House.  Those four songs make a "mini-album," where all of the real power lies.  Hunting Bears is incredibly underrated, beautiful in its simplicity.  Like Spinning Plates loses a bit of respect for its obfuscation, but is redeemed in its live performance on I Might Be Wrong, making it one of the most simplistically beautiful things the band has done.

Knives Out used to be a favorite, but dwindled in favor once I caught on to the back end of what Amnesiac had to offer (though it's always got a place in my mind for what I think is an inspired video).  Don't get me wrong, the front has a lot to offer: Pyramid Song is hypnotically beautiful.  Packt Like Sardines In a Crushd Tin Box is so catchy.  But Pulk/Pull Revolving Doors is laughable (even if it can get caught in your head).  Morning Bell/Amnesiac is kinda bad, tolerable but there's so much that's better; a song Radiohead shouldn't have wasted time on during Kid A, let alone a second go-'round.  I Might Be Wrong is repetitive, and You And Whose Army? is poignant for all of its three minutes, but soon forgettable.  Bottom line, the more I hear Life In A Glass House, the more I get it, the more I appreciate what's come before, and I guess that's one thing Amnesiac's odd track order has going for it.

EDIT: Radiohead tour and album info is slowly coming to light: http://pitchforkmedia.com/news/06-04/11.shtml#radiohead  Nothing incredibly new, but still interesting.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on April 12, 2006, 08:45:21 PM
Sidenote: Fog was used on last week's episode of The OC.  A Radiohead track used on a TV show?  That's crazy, Mr. Chubbs!
BLASPHEMERS! 
Haha, I don't see how fact can be considered as such.

It can be when a show like the fucking OC uses one of my favorite Radiohead B-sides.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on April 12, 2006, 09:15:51 PM
Am I still alone in thinking that Amnesiac is better (leagues better, even) than Kid A?

Kid A had some powerful tracks, Amnesiac was awesome nonstop.  Amnesiac is probably my favorite Radiohead album as of late.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: I Don't Believe in Beatles on May 01, 2006, 10:53:01 PM
More tour dates:



06-01 Philadelphia, PA - Tower Theatre ON SALE MAY 6
06-02 Philadelphia, PA - Tower Theatre ON SALE MAY 6
06-04 Boston, MA - Bank of America Pavilion ON SALE MAY 6
06-05 Boston, MA - Bank of America Pavilion ON SALE MAY 6
06-07 Toronto, Ontario - Hummingbird Center ON SALE MAY 6
06-08 Toronto, Ontario - Hummingbird Center ON SALE MAY 6
06-10 Montreal, Quebec - Salle Wilfrid-Pelletier at Place des Arts ON SALE MAY 5
06-11 Montreal, Quebec - Salle Wilfrid-Pelletier at Place des Arts ON SALE MAY 5
06-13 New York, NY - The Theatre at Madison Square Garden ON SALE MAY 5
06-14 New York, NY - The Theatre at Madison Square Garden ON SALE MAY 5
06-19 Chicago, IL - Auditorium Theatre ON SALE MAY 6
06-20 Chicago, IL - Auditorium Theatre ON SALE MAY 6
06-23 Berkeley, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 14
06-24 Berkeley, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 14
06-26 San Diego, CA - Bayside ON SALE MAY 6
06-27 San Diego, CA - Bayside ON SALE MAY 6
06-29 Los Angeles, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 25
06-30 Los Angeles, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 25



How expensive are Radiohead tickets?  I'm considering buying tickets to one of the Berkeley shows but I don't know if I could afford it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on May 02, 2006, 12:54:23 AM
06-29 Los Angeles, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 25
06-30 Los Angeles, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 25

Anyone planning on going?


Radiohead Line Up Summer Tour To Road-Test New Music
Band will play string of theater dates across North America in June. Source: MTV   

Throughout their decade-plus career, Radiohead have always done things their own way. So despite the fact they don't have a studio album to promote, they're still hitting the road this summer for a string of theater dates across North America.

The tour is slated to begin June 1 at the Tower Theatre in Upper Darby, Pennsylvania, and will make two-night stands in cities including Boston, Montreal, New York and Chicago before wrapping on June 30 at the Greek Theatre in Los Angeles. Tickets for some of the theater shows go on sale Friday through Radiohead.com. In addition to the theater gigs, Radiohead will also headline one night of the Bonnaroo Music & Arts Festival, to be held in Manchester, Tennessee, June 16-18.

According to a spokesperson for the band, Radiohead will be using the summer dates to road-test material for their still-untitled seventh studio album, which they've been working on with producer Mark "Spike" Stent since August. (Despite the tour, Radiohead have no plans to release an album in 2006.)

Frontman Thom Yorke has been documenting the recording process on the band's official blog, Dead Air Space, and posted several photos of the band rehearsing for their upcoming tour last week.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: matt35mm on May 02, 2006, 02:00:04 AM
06-29 Los Angeles, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 25
06-30 Los Angeles, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 25

Anyone planning on going?
Either one of those or one of the San Diego ones.

I promised myself I'd go to the very next Radiohead tour, still having never seen them live.  But I have to admit to indimidation--those Radiohead concerts must be gigantic mobfests!  It may ultimately depend on if I can get some friends to come with me.  I mostly like to do shit alone, but like I said, I'm intimidated.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: noyes on May 02, 2006, 06:57:03 AM
More tour dates:



06-01 Philadelphia, PA - Tower Theatre ON SALE MAY 6
06-02 Philadelphia, PA - Tower Theatre ON SALE MAY 6
06-04 Boston, MA - Bank of America Pavilion ON SALE MAY 6
06-05 Boston, MA - Bank of America Pavilion ON SALE MAY 6
06-07 Toronto, Ontario - Hummingbird Center ON SALE MAY 6
06-08 Toronto, Ontario - Hummingbird Center ON SALE MAY 6
06-10 Montreal, Quebec - Salle Wilfrid-Pelletier at Place des Arts ON SALE MAY 5
06-11 Montreal, Quebec - Salle Wilfrid-Pelletier at Place des Arts ON SALE MAY 5
06-13 New York, NY - The Theatre at Madison Square Garden ON SALE MAY 5
06-14 New York, NY - The Theatre at Madison Square Garden ON SALE MAY 5
06-19 Chicago, IL - Auditorium Theatre ON SALE MAY 6
06-20 Chicago, IL - Auditorium Theatre ON SALE MAY 6
06-23 Berkeley, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 14
06-24 Berkeley, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 14
06-26 San Diego, CA - Bayside ON SALE MAY 6
06-27 San Diego, CA - Bayside ON SALE MAY 6
06-29 Los Angeles, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 25
06-30 Los Angeles, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 25



How expensive are Radiohead tickets?  I'm considering buying tickets to one of the Berkeley shows but I don't know if I could afford it.

tickets are sold out for nyc, according to http://tickets.waste.uk.com/Store/DisplayItems.html
must be a certain amount. i'll try to get on ticketmaster at 10 sharp friday morning. totally gotta go.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on May 02, 2006, 08:13:58 AM
tickets are sold out for nyc, according to http://tickets.waste.uk.com/Store/DisplayItems.html

no... NO... That's not true... THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on May 02, 2006, 11:08:30 AM
06-29 Los Angeles, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 25
06-30 Los Angeles, CA - Greek Theater ON SALE MAY 25

Anyone planning on going?
Oh I am there.  Radiohead at the Greek is the best concert I've ever been to.  Right behind Radiohead at The Hollywood Bowl. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: I Don't Believe in Beatles on May 02, 2006, 06:26:21 PM
How expensive are Radiohead tickets?  I'm considering buying tickets to one of the Berkeley shows but I don't know if I could afford it.

This site (http://www.apeconcerts.com/) lists tickets for the Berkeley shows as being $43.00, General Admission.  Opening act: Deerhoof.  I'm going, for sure (on Friday).

Thanks. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on May 02, 2006, 07:04:42 PM
i guess the WASTE tickets are already sold out?

if you're not signed up with WASTE, you need to be, because they usually hold back tickets that are usually really good seats.

unfortunately, none of these shows are close enough for me. i'll just have to be content with downloading the boots.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: noyes on May 02, 2006, 08:24:20 PM
really really hoping ticketmaster will pull through friday morning.
and i really hope there are still general admission tickets available.
although seats wouldn't be so bad.. the msg theater is a fairly small place.
hence..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/noyes/franz99.jpg)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ono on May 03, 2006, 01:35:39 AM
From greenplastic.com:
Quote
Thom and Jonny performed at the Big Ask benefit at Koko in London this evening. A couple of new songs were played, including "Arpeggi", "Bodysnatchers", and "Cymbal Rush". ... You can download "Arpeggi", "Bodysnatchers", and "Cymbal Rush" in this .rar file (http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=2B4D2AEB1B845604). (thanks to Jorge)

First of all, :]  Second, the quality sucks, so :[

Third, fourth, and fifth:

I've heard a different version of Arpeggi, so there were no surprises here.  The version I have goes on too long and is tedious.  This is a bit better, but still the same.  A rather sleepy track, not as beautiful as Sail to the Moon, not as eerie as Scatterbrain.

Bodysnatchers immediately reminded me of Go To Sleep and Lozenge of Love or A Reminder.  Not sure which it resembles more, but either way, this one will be really fun.

Cymbal Rush reminded me of another song I can't quite put my finger on yet, with a similar piano sound.  It'll come to me.  This recording doesn't do it justice.  This'll be really good once perfected in the studio.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on May 03, 2006, 02:16:17 AM
Fuck.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ono on May 03, 2006, 02:42:15 AM
Better version of Bodysnatchers. (http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0QTMR4CVUCF130N3IXANCUQ7U9)

Fuck.

Oh, and a clip of Cymbal Rush (http://www.sendspace.com/file/58bikl).  Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVecCj5Refg) (longer), too.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on May 03, 2006, 01:37:10 PM
That would be a hell of a show to at least see them play Street Spirit, Everything Is In Its Right Place, We Suck Young Blood, or Pyramid Song.  I can't get enough of those tunes.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 03, 2006, 09:06:33 PM
Radiohead tour - venue capacities

Here are the capacities of the venues Radiohead is playing in June.

Philly Tower Theatre : 3,500
Boston Bank Of America Pavilion : 5,000
Toronto Hummingbird Center : 3,223
Montreal Salle Wilfred Pelletier at Place des Arts : 2,982
New York Theatre at Madison Square Garden : 5,600
Chicago Auditorium Theater : 3,929
Berkeley Greek Theatre : 8,300
San Diego Bayside : 4,700
Greek Theatre : 6,162

Montreal wins.

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: noyes on May 07, 2006, 08:36:37 PM
note to everyone:
head over to ateaseweb.com's mb for tons of new song mp3s and a complete video of the May 6th show.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 09, 2006, 04:42:54 PM
well tickets were near impossible to get.  but since i havent seen them since 1998, i decided to give it another chance and spent $340 for a pair on stubhub.  i hope it's worth it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on May 09, 2006, 07:06:49 PM
what does everyone think of the new tracks?
i've only heard one so far.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 09, 2006, 07:10:58 PM
preview 8 more live here: http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/2006/05/radiohead_tickets.html
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sunrise on May 10, 2006, 08:13:59 PM
Thom is sounding incredibly flat. He has three weeks to get his act together!!!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on May 10, 2006, 09:47:41 PM
of what i've downloaded, (not all the new ones yet) 15 Step is the standout for me.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sunrise on May 10, 2006, 09:57:35 PM
15 Step is great. I can't believe the vocals will remain exactly as they are, but Bodysnatchers works well for me.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on May 11, 2006, 10:01:18 PM
i'm liking House of Cards with the full band.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: samsong on May 12, 2006, 02:46:24 PM
so let's get an official headcount... not that i necessarily want to meet you guys but who's going to go nuts on the 25th to buy tickets for when they're playing in LA?  and which night are you gonna go for?  saturday is ideal methinks, but it'll probably be impossible. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 12, 2006, 04:54:45 PM
methinks impossible about sums it up.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 13, 2006, 09:24:05 AM
Thom Yorke solo album / Radiohead frontman to release 'The Eraser' in July
Source: NME

Radiohead frontman Thom Yorke is set to release a solo album in July, it has emerged.

In a dramatic statement Yorke said the album would be called 'The Eraser' and that its "elements have been kicking round now for a few years." Just last night (May 12), Radiohead kicked off the UK leg of their European tour, giving fans a taste of six tracks from the forthcoming new Radiohead album.

Yorke's solo album will be produced by long-time band producer Nigel Godrich[/b]. According to the statement - which was released to respected Radiohead fan site www.ateaseweb.com - Yorke wrote at the tracks and played all instruments. "I have been itching to do something like this for ages," he said. " It was fun and quick to do. Inevitably it is more beats & electronics. But its songs. Stanley [Donwood - Radiohead's cover artist] did the cover. Yes its a record! No its not a radiohead record. As you know the band are now touring and writing new stuff and getting to a good space." Yorke also headed off any speculation about the record signalling problems within the band. "I want no crap about me being a traitor or whatever splitting up blah blah... this was all done with their blessing. And I don't wanna hear that word solo. Doesnt sound right. Ok then thats that." He added that XL - the White Stripes UK label - would put out the album. Radiohead play Blackpool's Empress Ballroom again tonight (May 13)

http://www.theeraser.net/

more... (from pitchfork)

So there you have it: Thom Yorke's un-solo album, The Eraser, is due out July 11 on XL Recordings. (Pretty cool that Thom Yorke decided to put his album out on an indie label, huh?) It was produced by Radiohead bosom buddy Nigel Godrich, and features the following songs (yes, they're all supposed to be lower case):

01 the eraser
02 analyse
03 the clock
04 black swan
05 skip divided
06 atoms for peace
07 and it rained all night
08 harrowdown hill
09 cymbal rush

Various sources, including Billboard.com, report that the track "black swan" will play over the closing credits of Richard Linklater's new movie A Scanner Darkly. You know, the one with the animated images of Keanu Reeves and Winona Ryder playing characters in a Philip K. Dick novel.

As you probably already know (because we keep breathlessly telling you), Radiohead are on tour right now. The band canceled a show at Amsterdam's Heineken Music Hall this past Wednesday, due to the death of drummer Phil Selway's mother. The concert has been rescheduled for August 28.

The press release for Yorke's album states, "At the end of the tour Radiohead will resume work on their new album, due for release next year." Nice.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 16, 2006, 03:18:24 PM
(http://www.xlrecordings.com/theeraser/images/coversmall.jpg)

http://www.xlrecordings.com/theeraser/
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: I Don't Believe in Beatles on May 16, 2006, 09:24:04 PM
So, did anyone else end up scoring tickets?  I lucked out and got two for the Friday Berkeley show.  Checked back five minutes later and the show was sold out.

I completely forgot about them and remembered a day after they went on sale.  Damn my memory.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 16, 2006, 10:16:19 PM
Damon Albarn says Radiohead hypocrites, shows impersonal

The Blur and Gorillaz man has taken a swipe at Thom Yorke and co blasting them for their live shows and their lack of "humanity". According to the Sun Albarn said: "Radiohead - I'm not gonna get into anyone, but bands who care about certain things and then go on one-and-a-half-year stadium tours are just total hypocrites. In one sense you've got this developing humanist thing that's coming out of you, which is great. Then you're creating these massive impersonal events where you set up as the subject of thousands of people's adoration. Where is the humanity in that? That's just idolatory."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on May 16, 2006, 10:17:26 PM
Quote from: ATEASEWEB
The earlier reported track Thom Yorke made available for the film 'A Scanner Darkly' is called 'Black Swan'.

In film magazine Premiere, there is an interview with director Richard Linklater about his upcoming film. The director was asked if he got the Radiohead song he wanted.

Linklater said: "Thom Yorke is letting us use a great song off his new album for the closing credits, "Black Swan." It has a chorus, "because it's fucked up," that will never get airplay.

I thought it was interesting that the temp score had a lot of radiohead.  There was a song during the end credits that I didn't recognize... I think it was saying "it's fucked up... it's fucked up"... anyone know of an rh song that repeats that a few times?

Yeah, so I got to hear the new Thom Yorke solo single before you all... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... and didn't even realize it... it sounded like really laid back radiohead
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: polkablues on May 17, 2006, 12:28:41 AM
Quote from: RegularKarate (paraphrased)
WHO WANTS TO TOUCH ME?  I SAID WHO WANTS TO FUCKING TOUCH ME?!?!!?

 8)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on May 17, 2006, 08:34:42 AM
Damon Albarn says Radiohead hypocrites, shows impersonal

The Blur and Gorillaz man has taken a swipe at Thom Yorke and co blasting them for their live shows and their lack of "humanity". According to the Sun Albarn said: "Radiohead - I'm not gonna get into anyone, but bands who care about certain things and then go on one-and-a-half-year stadium tours are just total hypocrites. In one sense you've got this developing humanist thing that's coming out of you, which is great. Then you're creating these massive impersonal events where you set up as the subject of thousands of people's adoration. Where is the humanity in that? That's just idolatory."

Radiohead to play gigs in fans' houses, Albarn retracts previous comments

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 17, 2006, 11:12:22 AM
I think I'll reserve judgment on most of what I've heard (which sounds a little Pablo Honey-esque) and simply hope that they're very rough versions of the future songs. And Thom's voice better be garbled Like Spinning Plates-style in the final 15 Step. (How embarassing are those lyrics?)

But 4 Minute Warning is already great...  :bravo:...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on May 17, 2006, 10:16:23 PM
i haven't listened enough to make out lyrics yet.
what are the lyrics to 15 Step?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 18, 2006, 12:45:54 AM
A series of clichés and figures of speech.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on May 19, 2006, 11:24:23 AM
Easy Star All-Stars, who brought you 2003's reggae version of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon (renamed Dub Side of the Moon), have done it again. On August 22 they'll roll out Radiodread: A Complete Reggae Version of Radiohead's OK Computer, featuring guest vocals from Toots and the Maytals, Citizen Cope, Horace Andy, Morgan Heritage, the Meditations, Israel Vibration and Sugar Minott. The band will perform the dub-ified work in its entirety at the All Good Music Festival on July 13.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: mogwai on May 19, 2006, 11:35:59 AM
*marks calender*
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 19, 2006, 01:00:56 PM
*marks calender*
making it officially more anticipated than the Thom Yorke solo album on xixax.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on May 19, 2006, 01:48:12 PM
are you marking your calendar so you can avoid that dreck?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on May 25, 2006, 04:32:28 PM
Any of you LAians get tickets?  No luck here.  Dammit.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: samsong on May 25, 2006, 07:14:34 PM
i heard the show sold out in 10 seconds.

fuck.  (i didn't get a ticket)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 25, 2006, 07:40:56 PM
happy scalpers, y'all!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on May 25, 2006, 09:50:06 PM
Thom Yorke - The Eraser track by track preview
http://pitchforkmedia.com/news/06-05/24.shtml#thomyorke
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on May 31, 2006, 12:28:19 AM
It leaked... so far, pretty enjoyable
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on May 31, 2006, 02:56:58 AM
i leaked.... so far, pretty enjoyable.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on May 31, 2006, 05:40:26 AM
it's.. thommy boy. :!: the ERASER!! the hum on the clock. breathing, Textures. happy to get under the covers.

i'm back at a place i was at a year or two ago and i'm glad. And it rained all night while I listened all day.

\\time is running out//

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a175/Leven321/20060514_yorke.jpg)      (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a175/Leven321/walking.gif)

so far: prettttty, yes, enjoyable, yes.

makes me wanna listen to amnesiac again. BUT, maybe later after i hear THE ERASER a couple million more times.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: noyes on May 31, 2006, 07:29:56 AM
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F31EE6362334F1D0

got that from the at ease mb, it might run out very soon tho.
get it while you can.
or just get on slsk.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on May 31, 2006, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: Thom Yorke
It was fun and quick to do.
first impression: if this took more than an afternoon, it took too long.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on May 31, 2006, 01:04:14 PM
I think it's loose, not lazy, Mod.

There are some amazing tracks on here.
maybe a couple tracks that don't really find themselves, but mostly really great stuff... like a sleepy amnesiac.

Does Analyse really start like it's starting in the middle of the song or did I get a bad copy of that song?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Ghostboy on May 31, 2006, 01:11:30 PM
I fell asleep listening to it. But I think that's because I was laying down, and really tired. Second listen coming up now.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 31, 2006, 01:34:19 PM
My first impression is that this is more confirmation that Radiohead hit its peak with Amnesiac. I like it a lot, but it's not on par with HTTT. I know it's a solo album... but still. Disappoingtly unmelodic.

I'm sure I will like it more after a few listenings, like it usually goes... my favorites so far are The Eraser (which I'm loving already), Harrowdown Hill, And It Rained All Night, The Clock.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on May 31, 2006, 01:52:16 PM
i was tired too the first time i heard it, but i stayed wide awake. . still goin'.

My first impression is that this is more confirmation that Radiohead hit its peak with Amnesiac. I like it a lot, but it's not on par with HTTT. I know it's a solo album... but still. Disappoingtly unmelodic.

I'm sure I will like it more after a few listenings, like it usually goes... my favorites so far are The Eraser (which I'm loving already), Harrowdown Hill, And It Rained All Night, The Clock.

true enough, it's good though. real good. you're right, the more you hear it the more you'll like it. but i loved it at first. now i'm ten spins through.

glad you mentioned the Clock. i love the hummmmm on that song. and the clicks, blips, beeps, beats, and buzzes. it's a layered album without being too thick.

JB what do you think of Skip Divided?

Does Analyse really start like it's starting in the middle of the song or did I get a bad copy of that song?

i think it's the song (or i got the same copy). the beat starts quick and he immediately sings, a self-fulfilling prophecy of endless possibilty//your warning rings across the street//in algebra, in algebra
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Gold Trumpet on May 31, 2006, 01:53:53 PM
My first impression is that this is more confirmation that Radiohead hit its peak with Amnesiac.

Really? See, I ignore this forum for so long and I miss JB giving an opinion on Radiohead I didn't know anyone else had. All the Radiohead fans I know (including me) always looked down on Amnesiac. The consensus was the album was the quality of b-side material only. I don't even think Amnesiac is a true album. Whatever the merits are of everything else Radiohead has done, at least all the other albums are sonically whole. Amnesiac has songs at every level and is more like Sgt. Peppers but without the apology concept idea. What's your angle on the album, JB?

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on May 31, 2006, 02:24:18 PM
i think it's the song (or i got the same copy). the beat starts quick and he immediately sings, a self-fulfilling prophecy of endless possibilty//your warning rings across the street//in algebra, in algebra

see, mine doesn't even have the word "a" and I dont' think it even has the begining of the "s" in "self"... strange.

I really like the first four tracks the most... "Skip Divided" kind of starts the album headed into a less defined direction which is regains during "and it rained all night"
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: noyes on May 31, 2006, 08:19:46 PM
Disappoingtly unmelodic.

have you heard Atoms for Peace?
it's nothing but melody.
it's my favorite track on the record.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on June 02, 2006, 04:25:12 PM
there's lotsa moments of lyrical delivery in the eraser i think are so wonderful.

por ejemplo:
"so i give in to the rhythm / the click click clack "
"in algebra, in algebra.."
"hey hey ... hey hey"
"i'm a dog, i'm a dog, i'm a lapdog.. i'm your lapdog"
"we think the same things at the same time"
"i can see you but i can never reach you"


here's a recent rolling stones interview with thom about the eraser. enjoy!

RS: The new Radiohead songs in your live show are surprisingly straightforward. Some of them are almost like garage rock. Are you rediscovering the joys of simplicity?

Thom: "We're trying not to get too fussy, which is obviously our tendency. We don't really listen to rock music. A lot of what we listen to is techno and dub. But essentially, it's dance music, and that's feeding back into us, in a crude way."

Looking back at Kid A and Amnesiac, it's as if you had too many options in front of you and tried to use them all.

"That's always the problem. My favorite tune from that time is "How to Disappear Completely," because we didn't care how it could be seen as pretentious or anything. It just sounds glorious. What Jonny did to it is amazing.

But I like that Liars record that just came out [Drum's Not Dead], because they're using loops and stuff we've been making for ages. It's cool that there's someone besides us saying, "We're a live band, but we also do this . . ."

Describe the beginning of The Eraser.

A lot of the basic ideas were kicking around when I got all of my software on my laptop. They weren't things that would ever get to the band; they just worked in that isolated laptop space. There was no point in going to the others and saying, "Phi, do you want to try a beat on this?" Or, "Colin, do you want to play some bass?" Because the sounds and ideas were not from that sort of vibe.

What kind of vibe was it?

I would split up rhythm patterns and manipulate sounds to get to a brand new place. It was stuff that I do when I'm bored, really -- something I'd do when I'd sit in front of the television or traveling around.

It's something I've wanted to do for a long time. I wanted to work on my own. It wasn't casting aspersions on anybody. I just wanted to see what it would be like. Luckily, I happen to be in a band where nobody has a problem with that. In fact, I think there was some sense of relief, that finally I was going to do it. Rather than saying it and chickening out.

The biggest surprise on The Eraser is how clear and clean your voice is.

I kept begging Nigel to put more reverb on it. "No, I'm not doing reverb on this record." Please hide my voice. "No."

But I'm always looking for things that make me want to sing. They're not necessarily chord progressions. It can be a rhythm, with one note on it. In the last song, "Cymbal Rush," the first bit you hear is something I had for three years: one little note. I could hear the melody in there straightaway. But if you played it to anyone else without me singing it, you'd think, "What's he on about?"

There were all these random electronic doodles, but being forced by Nigel to isolate down to the best bits made me realize these were the best bits. All I could see was how clever my programming was. Suddenly I was being forced to forget all that and be the singer again. And I wasn't thinking about Radiohead. I never thought, "I should stop here. I should give this to the band." Once I made the decision to do this record, that's what I was writing for.

Were these songs written in a concentrated period?

Absolutely, except for "Cymbal Rush" -- that riff that had been around for ages -- and "The Eraser," where the piano chords are Jonny's. I recorded them on a dictaphone around his house one day. A year and a half later, I had to own up that I had sampled them, cut them into a different order and made them into a song [laughs]. "Is that alright? Sorry, Jonny."

"Harrowdown Hill" was kicking around during Hail to the Thief, but there was no way that was going to work with the band. "And It Rained All Night" has this enormously shredded-up element of "The Gloaming" [from Hail to the Thief], not that you'd ever I remember doing that in New York. I couldn't sleep one night, and it was one of those New York things, where the rain just chucks down. The rain was so loud.

"Black Swan" has this tiny, shredded segment of something that was one of the library samples we had. It was Ed and Phil doing this thing, and I sliced it into bits. The sample was 2000, but the song was 2005.

Your writing has always been intensely personal and conflicted, but because your voice is so up front on The Eraser, the words and images come through so vividly, as in "Analyse."

[Sings] "Power cuts and blackouts/Sleeping like babies." I used to live in central Oxford, on one of those historical streets, with all these houses built in the 1860s. I came home one night and for some reason, the street had a power cut. The houses were all dark, with candlelight in the windows, which is obviously how it would have been when they were built. It was beautiful.

I also like the lines in "Black Swan": "You cannot kick-start a dead horse/You just cross yourself and walk away."

[Laughs] As always, whatever psychic garbage you've got going on in your head, you end up using it. You should have seen the stuff I didn't put in. That's the shit you don't want to know about.

Your album is the first you've put out since the end of Radiohead's EMI contract. Is the XL deal for one album?

Yeah. We will only ever do that now.

Does that also go for the band's future releases?

I don't know. We haven't talked about it yet. There are a great many things we haven't talked about.

My big problem with corporate structure is this bizarre sense of loyalty you're supposed to feel -- towards what is basically a virus. It grows or dies, like any virus. And you use it for your own selfish ends. Jonny had a big problem with the fact that we didn't have any obligation -- a release date or anything. He found it difficult to work in a vacuum. Which is one of the reasons why we chose to go out on tour: "This is something we can work toward." It's human nature. Personally, I don't have that. But I can see why, if you're a group of people, you need it.

Has the band talked much about the way you want to release music in the future? There were rumors about a series of EPs.

I'm into the idea of singles and EPs. Jonny and I were never convinced about that whole thing with Kid A; "We don't release singles. This is an album, and that's it." What gets me down is the emphasis on the LP. It's one of our strengths. You can create a more exciting picture with lots of different things that you put together. But I want something that gets you on the dance floor. I always have. But we never do that.

So how do you account for the fact that, on your own, you made an album anyway?

There you go -- bloody-minded [laughs]. As it went on, this group of songs fit together quite well. It was Nigel who started it: "What if you opened with this song, then put this one and that one . . .?" Suddenly, we had the first four songs of an album.

How would you describe the status of the next Radiohead album?

We have roughs of things. We have maybe half of something so far. There's another six tunes we haven't started playing live yet. There's one called "Videotape" that's really cool. It's got lots of cyclical melodies. It's one of the first things we had. We were smashing our heads against the wall, trying to figure out what to do with it. Sometimes that drives me crazy.

What have you learned about yourself -- as a songwriter -- from making The Eraser?

I got a lot more confidence. I go through phases where I have absolutely no faith in anything I've done at all. But I was actually talking about what I was doing again. I'd ring up a friend, say "Listen to this," and play him the bass riff on "And It Rained All Night." It was things like that, little pockets of excitement that I'd missed for so long.

I was also surprised and reassured by how cool the rest of the guys were with this. When I said I was going to do it, they were like, "Yeah, please." I was a little worried when I gave them copies of it. If they hated it, that wouldn't be great. And I was worried that it would freak them out. But it didn't, which was great.

I had fun doing it as well. That is mostly what I have learned - this is fun. [Laughs] I'm very, very lucky.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on June 02, 2006, 10:34:23 PM
all i've downloaded is Skip Divided.

it sounds very Bjork Medulla-y.

i'm going to try and actually hold out until release date for the rest. same day as the new Sufjan as well.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 03, 2006, 06:56:20 PM
Yes, it's really growing on me now. I love The Clock, Harrowdown Hill, Atoms For Peace, and The Eraser. (In that order, I guess.)

GT... I think I love Amnesiac because it's Radiohead's most fearless album, and I think it's what they were working toward, and I think with that album they acheived it. I love every second of Amnesiac. And I think stuff like Skip Divided is a step backward. It's interesting to hear Thom Yorke doing Sigur Rós and Björk, but it's just not him.

I'm sure I'll eventually regret some of my negative comments, but I don't think I will ever think Black Swan is not annoying.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on June 03, 2006, 09:25:05 PM
A wider horizon for Radiohead
The publicity-shy band previews new material before an adoring crowd in Pennsylvania.
By Richard Cromelin, Times Staff Writer

(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2006-06/23725116.jpg)

PHILADELPHIA — Few rock acts have worked harder to elude the scrutiny that comes with being a great band than Radiohead, but sometimes you have to face the inevitable. All eyes were back on the English quintet as it opened its U.S. tour at the Tower Theater here on Thursday, but at least this time the focus of curiosity was something even the band members could appreciate: a preview of Radiohead's first new songs in three years.

In the late 1990s, when they were neurotically suspicious of adulation and sensitive to expectations, the attention might have fallen more on their potential for stardom or for breaking up. But the group has managed a remarkable adjustment in recent years, carving a space and establishing a pace that accommodate personal lives and creative freedom.
 
That meant withdrawing as a candidate for biggest band in the world, which Radiohead accomplished by avoiding long tours, predictable recording schedules and easy, radio-friendly music. In becoming what is essentially a cult band with a mass audience, the group has renewed its enthusiasm for performing, something that was obvious on its last tour in 2003 but was even more apparent Thursday in the intimate setting of a 3,100-seat theater.

The musicians got a heroes welcome when they hit the stage, a sign of the strong bond the fans have with Radiohead's music and its example of uncompromising conduct. And the band could count on that loyalty and willingness to go against the grain in playing a set loaded with unfamiliar music.

The process isn't new for Radiohead, which has taken in-progress material for several of its albums on the road before finishing the recordings. But U.S. audiences have rarely been included, so this sold-out, 19-concert tour, following a series of shows in Europe and concluding with stops June 29 and 30 at the Greek Theatre, has an air of special occasion.

The group, which is loosely aiming to complete its album by the end of the year so that singer Thom Yorke can devote some time to a solo album, worked nine new songs into the 23-song program, placing them among selections drawn primarily from its most popular album, "OK Computer" (1997), and its experimental successor, "Kid A." Those older tunes felt reinvented and fresh, especially the "Kid A" songs. Once remote and icy, they now seem like an integral element in the Radiohead canon.

On first impression, the varied new songs expand Radiohead's musical range while reconnecting with some of its earlier, guitar-rock values. "15 Step" started with an all-percussion backdrop for Yorke's vocal, which proceeded to adopt a Middle Eastern-sounding intonation. "House of Cards" might have been the biggest stretch, a gentle groove with a vintage soul-music flavor, uncharacteristically caressing (though the lyrics posted on fan websites are more typically sinister) and content to stay in one place musically.

"Bangers 'n' Mash" was a lively rocker, with Yorke having a bash at a drum kit while singing, and "Arpeggi" revived some of the drum-and-bass sound of "Kid A" and "Amnesiac" before breaking into a brisk, guitar-driven section. "Nude," which has been floating and forming for a decade, follows a similar pattern, breaking from the Radiohead pattern by refusing to release its built-up tension.

"Open Pick" and "Bodysnatchers" were guitar-led rockers, while the ballad "4 Minute Warning," played as one of the encores, found Yorke at the piano while his bandmates hovered nearby, casual as a group at the corner pub.

"Thank you for listening to all the new songs tonight," Yorke said, just before concluding the two-hour show with the "OK Computer" favorite "Karma Police." They aren't much for small talk, but at the end they seemed pleased to be there, returning the audience's ovation with smiles and applause of their own.

It remains to be seen whether these new songs will fit the contours of the times in the same way that made Radiohead's earlier work an essential survival guide in an age of alienation. A lot will depend on the final versions, and the way they're recorded, and, of course, the way the times change.

Radiohead has rarely failed to be on top of it before, but the question the group will have to face this time is whether it can be comfortable enough to carry on and confrontational enough to matter. When the time comes to reveal the answer, the band had better get ready to have all eyes on it once again.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on June 03, 2006, 10:27:47 PM
The group, which is loosely aiming to complete its album by the end of the year so that singer Thom Yorke can devote some time to a solo album,
invalidated?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on June 04, 2006, 06:31:12 AM
First impressions:

It's much more song-oriented than I thought it would be. In between the blips & bleeps, his (very personal) voice without the reverb and Radiohead instrumentals is really beautiful. That doesn't take anything away from Radiohead's music. I'm a huge fan. But hearing more of him and less production is really wonderful. Cymbal Rush in particular is fantastic.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on June 04, 2006, 11:09:32 PM
15 Step has a very danceable beat.
the other day i had access to a fast connection so i watched videos of all their new songs and Thom dances through that one.

the first US date they played Kid A, Myxomatosis and Airbag. three songs i was dying to hear when i saw them on the HTTT tour that i have yet to see live at two concerts. WSYB is another i'd like to see live. i'm surprised they pulled out Black Star.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 04, 2006, 11:40:20 PM
i love black star and think a dance album would likely be terrible, but if they're going to inch towards it i wish they'd just get it over with so they can be good again.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 05, 2006, 10:31:10 PM
If anyone has a link to an accurate version of the lyrics, it would be appreciated.

http://www.ateaseweb.com/theeraser/
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on June 06, 2006, 08:37:38 PM
Los Angeles radio station KROQ had a breakfast concert with Radiohead a while back:

http://www.kroq.com/kevinandbean/breakfast/index.html
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on June 12, 2006, 10:52:26 AM
from NME.com

Thom Yorke to appear on US chat show
Star meets a real life 'talk show host'


Radiohead's Thom Yorke has confirmed an appearance on an American chat show.

The star will be one of the guests on 'The Henry Rollins Show', where he will be promoting his debut solo album 'The Eraser'.

Yorke will feature on the American programme on July 15.

Former Black Flag frontman Rollins' show, broadcast on the IFC Network, features the likes of Dinosaur Jr., Peaches and Dashboard Confessional in future episodes.

Radiohead are touring in North America throughout June. They then go on a second European tour of the year in August, including their highly anticipated V Festival dates on August 19 and 20.

'The Eraser' is released on July 10 on XL Records.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on June 14, 2006, 10:04:18 PM
Radiohead
By Frank Scheck , Hollywood Reporter
Bottom line: Old faves, plenty of new material and an intimate venue make for a sterling show.
 
Theater at Madison Square Garden, New York
Tuesday, June 13

It seems perfectly fitting that the stage backdrop for Radiohead's current tour consists of floating video screens displaying distorted images of the band members. Like the music itself, the visuals are dreamy, off-kilter and highly impressionistic.

Playing smaller venues as a warm-up for the recording of their next album, the band delivered a fan-friendly show that featured a canny mixture of old faves and new material. In the 23-song set, there were eight new songs, with a majority of the older ones coming from "Kid A." Selections from "Amnesiac," "OK Computer," "Hail to the Thief" and "The Bends" rounded out the bill.

The show began on a subtle note with lead vocalist Thom Yorke singing and playing an upright piano on "You and Whose Army?" before the rest of the band kicked in. But things picked up quickly with the powerful "National Anthem," and the rest of the two-hour performance displayed an energy that seemed to surprise even die-hard fans.

This was in part because of the more straightforward, rocking nature of the new material. Such songs as "Bangers 'n' Mash," "Arpeggi" and the piano-driven "Videotape" are more readily accessible than much of the band's more ethereal, atmospheric work, while numbers like "15 Step" display a rhythmic funkiness more than a little reminiscent of Talking Heads.

Performing with their usual dazzling light show, the band delivered all of the material with the utmost conviction. There was the occasional glitch to be sure -- "Oh, shit, amateur on the drum kit," Yorke joked after drummer Phil Selway got off to a false start -- but overall the playing was remarkably precise.

Despite the music's raw power, it was presented with no small degree of playfulness. The band members, who also include bassist Colin Greenwood and guitarists Jonny Greenwood and Ed O'Brien, switched instruments with abandon, with Yorke frequently pitching in on piano, drum kit and tambourine. The singer also engaged in plenty of frenzied dancing, his herky-jerky movements providing a suitable visual accompaniment for the uptempo numbers. And for an encore of "Everything in Its Right Place," he sang a few bars of the Yuletide classic "Silent Night."

The new material was greeted with the sort of enthusiasm that only dyed-in-the-wool fans can provide, but naturally their greater ardor was reserved for such classics as "Fake Plastic Trees," "Morning Bell" and the show's appropriate closer, "How to Disappear Completely."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on June 14, 2006, 10:11:46 PM
i love black star and think a dance album would likely be terrible, but if they're going to inch towards it i wish they'd just get it over with so they can be good again.

when thom says 'dance album' i bet he means more along the lines of talking heads circa remain in light and idioteque/15 step.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 14, 2006, 11:43:30 PM
well tickets were near impossible to get.  but since i havent seen them since 1998, i decided to give it another chance and spent $340 for a pair on stubhub.  i hope it's worth it.
well 8 years later, it was.  but only because the snubbing of NOT seeing them AGAIN would've been too much to bear.  the show itself was not worth it, mostly because it was NEARLY the worst setlist i could've ever imagined.   and thats even allowing them to play 8 new songs.

stuff i was dying to hear:
paranoid android
no surprises
idioteque
just

other stuff that was good:
national anthem
i might be wrong
like spinning plates

great albums but i would've chosen a different track:
the tourist
my iron lung

stuff i would've gladly traded out:
everything in its right place
a wolf at the door
pyramid song

complete wastes of my time:
the gloaming
kid a
dollars and cents
myxomatosis

the stuff they didnt play (i would've given anything to hear):
airbag
exit music
karma police
electioneering
climbing up the walls
lucky
planet telex
the bends
high and dry
fake plastic trees
black star
street spirit
morning bell
you and whose army
2+2=5
backdrifts
there there

i know you should not expect a band to play its back catalog when they've got new stuff.  and i wouldnt have expected more if i hadnt been reading the setlists from this tour and seen how much of it they were playing. but even the stuff from the 3 most recent albums was mostly the crap.  and it was really ridiculous how much better Paranoid Android is over anything since then new stuff included.  its like it truly was the best group of songs they would ever write on that album and they could not top it, so they didnt try.  so whatever.  there were about 8 good songs, but by the time they got to most of them i was already too angry to enjoy them.  they're ruining Nude by over arranging it.  it was perfect 8 years ago and now they've overthought it and strangled the beauty out.  just like they did with How To Disappear Completely, Motion Picture Sntk (big time) and Like Spinning Plates which you can see is quite a beautiful song when you take away the stupid noise.  i like most of the new songs, its clear its not going to be their best but i like them.  they still SOUND great though.  i just wish they still wrote great songs and i wish we'd gotten a better setlist.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on June 15, 2006, 01:35:19 AM
Radiohead Debut Seven New Songs, Please Crowd With Hits At NYC Show
Some new material rocks harder than anything since OK Computer.   
Source: MTV

NEW YORK — In the past decade, Radiohead have been called dour scientists who use the stage as a sonic laboratory. But during the first of their two shows at the Theater at Madison Square Garden, they were more like excited kids on a playground filled with exotic toys.

Singer Thom Yorke shook invisible maracas, twitched and talked into his guitar pickups as his bandmates wove a backdrop of skewed rhythms, unsettling noises and skittering electronic beats, which coalesced with Yorke's pained, elliptical vocals.

For some, this type of high art is sobering. For Radiohead, it's simply a blast. Clearly the bandmembers — Yorke, guitarists Jonny Greenwood and Ed O'Brien, bassist Colin Greenwood and drummer Phil Selway — are meticulous about writing songs, but playing them is another matter. During the show, they grinned constantly, gleefully conjuring dizzying arrays of sounds from their main instruments, as well as a variety of pianos, samplers, stage drums and an electronic gizmo that looked like an oversize PSP. Even Yorke was in a spiritually sound place.

"I'm gonna have to try out the drum set later," he quipped before the new song "Bangers 'N' Mash," then laughed as a small kit was placed to the side of his mic stand.

The older songs Radiohead played were culled predominantly from the angular electronic rock material of 2000's Kid A and 2001's Amnesiac, and they worked well alongside the seven new songs. Not that they're returning to the enigmatic drum-and-bass clatter of "Everything in Its Right Place" or "National Anthem" — they're simply reclaiming their role as modern innovators after their somewhat lackluster 2003 disc, Hail to the Thief.

Four songs into the two-hour concert, Radiohead introduced fans to the first new number, "15 Step," which featured soulful vocals, a jittery beat, artificial handclaps and watery slivers of jazz guitar before launching into a combination of galactic keyboards and hiccupy guitar noises.

Two of new numbers rocked harder than anything Radiohead have done since OK Computer's "Paranoid Android." "Bodysnatchers" combined Yorke's trademark wail with the quirky dissonance of Sonic Youth and the drone of Velvet Underground, and the aforementioned "Bangers 'N' Mash" was a raw, propulsive audio melt of glam riffage, funk drumming and attitude that peaked with a dizzying pregnant pause before diving back into the melee.

The softer songs were equally captivating. During "Videotape," backward-sounding guitar gurgled through major, elegiac piano chords. Halfway in, an ominous beat cut through, and toward the end, O'Brien sat cross-legged twiddling the knobs of various effect pedals while Greenwood hunched over and sawed away at his guitar.

During "Arpeggi," a repeated three-note guitar arpeggio drove the rhythm while Yorke crooned. Sometimes it sounded like all the members were each playing a different song, but their parts intersected.

One of the many highlights, "Down Is the New Up," rode a sturdy backbeat over jagged riffs, mournful wails and soulful background vocals, pausing in the appropriate places for textural washes of piano and guitar effects. The only head-scratcher was "House of Cards," a hazy number that resembled a U2 ballad.

While the true excitement of the show came from the sneak preview of new songs, Radiohead also rolled out a cavalcade of hits. "Fake Plastic Trees" showed how organic and vulnerable the band can still sound, while "Street Spirit" and "Lucky" reminded the crowd that Radiohead were a killer mainstream alternative-rock band long before the arrival of Coldplay or Keane.

Near the end of the first encore, Radiohead performed the soaring, arresting title track from their 1995 disc, The Bends. They then moved into Kid A's "Everything in Its Right Place," during which the band built tension gradually over a bed of clicks and blips, then released it all at once in a flood of computerized noise and echoed vocals.

Before releasing Hail to the Thief, Radiohead embarked on a similar series of European and North American dates to road-test their new material. However, while that tour was more of a trial to separate the wheat from the chaff, this time, the band seems proud to exhibit the new songs with the knowledge that they're all winners. For this consistently challenging band, 2007 could be a banner year.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on June 15, 2006, 08:45:16 AM
I was at last night's show at the Garden.  Best one I've been to.  I've never heard them do Kid A live before.  All the new songs are OUTSTANDING!  Videotape literally had me slackjawed.

1. The Gloaming
2. National Anthem
3. 15 Step
4. Arpeggi
5. Kid A
6. Dollars and Cents
7. Videotape
8. Nude
9. I Might Be Wrong
10. Paranoid Android
11. Bangers 'n Mash
12. Pyramid Song
13. My Iron Lung
14. Bodysnatchers
15. Myxomatosis
16. No Surprises (dedicated to Michael Stipe)
17. Everything in its Right Place

Encore 1:
18. A Wolf at the Door
19. Down is the New Up
20. Like Spinning Plates
21. Spooks
22. Idioteque

Encore 2:
23. Just
24. The Tourist
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 15, 2006, 09:21:33 AM
I was at last night's show at the Garden.  Best one I've been to.
i'm not sure how we were at the same show.  :yabbse-sad:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on June 15, 2006, 09:25:56 AM
I was at last night's show at the Garden.  Best one I've been to.
i'm not sure how we were at the same show.  :yabbse-sad:
he's just got better taste than you.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 15, 2006, 09:47:59 AM
maybe mine is more discriminating.   :elitist:  but seriously, the gloaming?  it is probably the worst song on any radiohead album and they OPENED with it.  and kid a is useless live.  the new songs are good though.  i enjoyed them more than most of the other stuff.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on June 15, 2006, 10:35:05 AM
maybe mine is more discriminating. :elitist:

 :nono: 

You just like a different Radiohead than I do.  And admittedly, last night's show was more for the fans who have seen them: A) more than once; and B) more than once in the last 5 years.  You should have gone to the Tuesday night show from the looks of it.

Gloaming is one of my 5 least favorite songs on any post-Pablo album but when they do it live, Colin is the star and he just makes the song whole.  They did pretty much the same arrangement on their 2003 tour and it made me stop skipping the song when I listen to HTTT.

And I'll take Kid A live over Treefingers or Hunting Bears live any day.

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on June 15, 2006, 01:28:50 PM
Yeah, Gloaming is amazing live.. I think that Mod should have just stayed home and listened to the songs he wanted to hear on CD and pretended he was at the concert... that setlist is a great setlist, based on live performances.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on June 15, 2006, 02:15:54 PM

And I'll take Kid A live over Treefingers or Hunting Bears live any day.


Say what you want about Treefingers, but don't knock Hunting Bears.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 15, 2006, 03:15:45 PM
Yeah, Gloaming is amazing live.. I think that Mod should have just stayed home and listened to the songs he wanted to hear on CD and pretended he was at the concert... that setlist is a great setlist, based on live performances.
no this would've been a great setlist.

1. The Gloaming Airbag
2. National Anthem
3. 15 Step
4. Arpeggi
5. Kid A Fake Plastic Trees
6. Dollars and Cents Lucky
7. Videotape
8. Nude
9. I Might Be Wrong
10. Paranoid Android
11. Bangers 'n Mash
12. Pyramid Song Exit Music
13. My Iron Lung The Bends
14. Bodysnatchers
15. Myxomatosis Backdrifts
16. No Surprises (dedicated to Michael Stipe)
17. Everything in its Right Place Karma Police

Encore 1:
18. A Wolf at the Door 2+2=5
19. Down is the New Up
20. Like Spinning Plates
21. Spooks
22. Idioteque

Encore 2:
23. Just
24. The Tourist

if the band had just sucked that night or i had terrible seats it would have been easier to take.  but the fact that they did SOUND great and PLAYED great made it more heartbreaking when i just could not get into what they were playing.  i was really excited, i had familiarized myself with the new material and had seen enough setlists to have some idea of what they have been playing recently so i was just not prepared for this.  becksparrow is right, i would've been much happier on night one.  i have suffered more radiohead related heartbreak than i can even describe and this was no exception.  :(
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on June 15, 2006, 03:36:10 PM

And I'll take Kid A live over Treefingers or Hunting Bears live any day.


Say what you want about Treefingers, but don't knock Hunting Bears.

I'm not knocking Hunting Bears in and of itself.  It's just not what I want to hear when I see them in concert.  Those 2 songs bring everything to a halt no matter where they're placed in a show.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on June 15, 2006, 04:38:55 PM
For $340 mod and his girl can come over to my place and I'll play 'em whatever the f they want on my stereo.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on June 16, 2006, 10:20:08 AM
I really, really want to hear these at the show I'm going to.  Throw in "We Suck Young Blood," "2 + 2 = 5," "How To Disappear Completely," and some requisite Bends/OK Computer faves and I'll be happy.

For $340 mod and his girl Lucid can come over to my place and I'll play 'em her whatever the f they she want on my stereo.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on June 16, 2006, 05:55:17 PM
i've seen them twice. on the HTTT tour my biggest hopes to hear were Big Ideas (the old way), Airbag, Kid A, Myxomatosis and We Suck Young Blood. they play Karma Police and PA at almost every show, so i didn't really care to hear those again. Idioteque is so good that I wouldn't mind hearing it every time I see them.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 19, 2006, 03:30:10 PM
http://nymag.com/arts/all/process/17306/index.html
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on June 19, 2006, 06:30:50 PM
Source: MTV

The presence of one of President Bush's twin daughters at a Radiohead concert at the Theater at Madison Square Garden in New York last week has frontman Thom Yorke fuming. In a post to Radiohead's blog, "Dead Air Space," Yorke wrote that the concert was interrupted for several fans thanks to six Secret Service Agents, who cleared a path for the first daughter's exit and "manhandled ... some poor soul." Yorke wrote that the incident left the band with a multiple-choice quandary. "I don't know whether we should be A. honored; B. amused; C. bemused; D. ask if she had a valid ticket; E. object belatedly on moral grounds; F. ask again if she had a ticket and question whether this [is] really what our gigs are about; G. don't blame the daughter for the father; H. shut up and smile."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on June 24, 2006, 09:26:22 AM
I have no complaints, not even regarding the setlist, which omitted many of the songs that I originally "really want[ed]" to hear.
yeah your setlist was still about 1000 times better than mine.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on June 24, 2006, 10:47:28 AM
is Spooks still under 2 minutes?

someone mentioned that new one, All I Need, reminded them of that Primitive Radio Gods song and i can kinda see it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on June 24, 2006, 11:33:58 AM
*Some weirdo tried to pick up on me during "Pyramid Song." I declined.
yeah, sorry about that. i can see why you'd be weirded out..

i was like

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a175/Leven321/101811321_l.gif)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on June 25, 2006, 07:35:23 AM
I have no complaints, not even regarding the setlist, which omitted many of the songs that I originally "really want[ed]" to hear.
yeah your setlist was still about 1000 times better than mine.

Though not quite as good as mine.  ;)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: JG on June 25, 2006, 01:15:31 PM
hop on over to this site http://www.youaintnopicasso.com/

where you can grab a zip of this setlist, which, as they explain, "is considered one of the band’s best in recent years. The setlist was near-flawless and the band were energetic and, dare I say it, playful."

Radiohead @ Bonnaroo (6.17.06)
01 There There
02 2+2=5
03 15 Step
04 Arpeggi
05 Exit Music
06 Kid A
07 Dollars And Cents
08 Videotape
09 No Surprises
10 Paranoid Android
11 The Gloaming
12 The National Anthem
13 Climbing Up The Walls
14 Nude
15 Street Spirit
16 The Bends
17 Myxomatosis
18 How To Disappear Completely

Encore 1:
19 You And Whose Army?
20 Pyramid Song
21 Like Spinning Plates
22 Fake Plastic Trees
23 Bodysnatchers
24 Lucky
25 Idioteque
26 Karma Police

Encore 2:
27 House Of Cards
28 Everything In Its Right Place

i haven't really gotten into radiohead yet (although my friend is burning me kid a and ok computer as we speak) so i don't know if that setlist is as good as they say it is, so you decide. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on June 25, 2006, 06:09:49 PM
That's a long ass first encore.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on June 28, 2006, 11:38:54 AM
A CONVERSATION WITH ...
Thom Yorke, free agent

Radiohead's frontman goes solo -- but don't call it that -- with electronica 'Eraser.'
By Ann Powers, Los Angeles Times
 
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LAST year, Thom Yorke was supposed to unwind. Radiohead, the band whose decade-long ascent has turned the singer into pop's definitive reluctant visionary, was on hiatus after a protracted cycle of recording and touring. Yorke was savoring the retreat from what he wryly calls "making RECORDS, in big capital letters," and the chance to reacquaint himself with his Oxford home, his longtime partner Rachel Owen and two young children. But instead of clearing a space for calm, Yorke found himself up to his neck in new thoughts.

"At my house, there's a room about this size," Yorke said, gesturing at the spacious suite in San Francisco's Clift Hotel where he sat discussing "The Eraser," the album he's releasing on July 10. "The entire room was just covered — the whole floor, with notes and scraps of paper. A friend of mine came by just before we started recording, and he was just looking through it, laughing his head off, saying, how are you going to piece this together?"

Yorke's workroom mess, mirrored by the sonic "bits and bobs and shreds of all sorts of random chaos" on his laptop, gave him a sense of freedom he'd momentarily lost within Radiohead, which lands in L.A. for two nights at the Greek Theatre starting Thursday. In league with two longtime collaborators, the visual artist Stanley Donwood and producer Nigel Godrich, Yorke enclosed himself amid these fragments, shutting out other influences. "That's how you get that thing where a project has its own universe," he explained. "You say, well, everything in this room, that's all there is, that's all I've got."

The fruitful little island of disarray contrasted radically with the high-stakes mood surrounding Radiohead's most recent chart-topper, 2003's "Hail to the Thief," which left the band seriously in need of some elbow room. Made quickly, during a time when Yorke was becoming deeply involved with the environmentalist group Friends of the Earth, "The Eraser" is a return to focus for Yorke, whose energy had flagged under the weight of his band's outsized reputation.

"It was done in the context of Radiohead," he said, adding that he initially dreaded telling his bandmates he'd embarked on the effort. "The best thing about it was that it wasn't a problem. Of course it was fine. Why wouldn't it be?" That the band dynamic "is a liquid thing is very important."

On its current tour, Radiohead is playing a wide swath of favorites plus some exciting new material, perhaps enriched by the confidence Yorke says he's regained by making "The Eraser," which will be released on the super-hip independent label XL. Radiohead is one of pop's highest-profile free agents, having parted with EMI, the conglomerate that released its previous seven albums. "The Eraser" could be viewed as part of a larger move toward independence.

Asked whether Radiohead would consider distributing its next album independently, Yorke unhesitatingly said yes. "We have two or three options, and that's one," he said. "Once we finish whatever we think is good enough to put out, then we'll start thinking about it. We haven't discussed it a great deal. I would love for us to drop a chemical weapon within the music industry. But I don't see it as our responsibility, either."

In the meantime, there's "The Eraser" — a project the labelresistant Yorke hates to label "solo." What began as a side trip into the abstract electronic music he loves became, to the singer's surprise, 40 minutes of remarkably powerful and direct music. Sure to be one of the year's critical and cult favorites, "The Eraser" is an evocative portrait of life made slippery by urban sprawl, murky political alliances and global warming — and given hope through individual and communal resistance — with the blips and bleeps of Yorke's laptop excursions coalescing into soulful, politically charged songs.

"It started out with loads and loads of beats and la la la," Yorke said, mocking his own obscurantist tendencies. "It was pretty intense and very, very heavy." Yorke's busman's holiday gave his producer a chance to highlight Yorke's poignant tenor and melodic sense. "In the midst of it all there were two or three things that made Nigel and me go, ooh, there's something really direct here. Someone might even understand it the first time around."

"In the band he's always finding ways to bury himself," Godrich said in a phone interview. "Being a big fan of his voice and his songs, I wanted to push that. It would have been sad if he'd just made an oblique record. But because it was predominantly electronic, I had a really good excuse to make his voice dry and loud."

The leap beyond the band context might easily have led Yorke into murky territory. A fan of experimental electronica, the singer first came up with a collection of tracks that didn't really reach out. "It made complete sense to me, but there wasn't enough there for anybody else," he said of these early efforts. But the desire to meld his voice with the computer's led to unexpected intimacies.

"The music, no matter what way you look at it, is coming out of a box," said Yorke, noting that even the acoustic sounds of piano, guitar and bass "The Eraser" samples are computer-processed, and he cites Björk's 1997 electro-torch suite "Homogenic" as a primary reference point. "It has its own space. We consciously decided to not expand it beyond that. The vocals are exactly the same, right there in the speakers. The record was built to be listened to in an isolated space — on headphones, or stuck in traffic."

The traffic reference is no casual one for Yorke, whose concern about the environment nearly caused him, at one point, to "flip my lid." Its songs send up warning flares that are cosmic in scope, yet movingly personal — the sonic equivalent of a hand held up to a tidal wave. That's an image Donwood included in "London Views," the "apocalyptic panorama" inspired by "The Eraser," which makes up the album's cover art. One of the linotype's most powerful segments depicts King Canute, the legendary English monarch who proved the limits of kingly power by trying and failing to command the ocean. The tale inspired Yorke's flood of lyrics too.

"In the paper one day, Jonathan Porritt was basically dismissing any commitment that the working government has toward addressing global warming, saying that their gestures were like King Canute trying to stop the tide," Yorke said of the British environmentalist. "And that just went 'kaching' in my head. It's not political, really, but that's exactly what I feel is happening. We're all King Canutes, holding our hands out, saying, 'It'll go away. I can make it stop.' No, you can't."

Such "not really political" talk has become tough for Yorke to resist, despite his desire to stay in the artist's traditional spot above the fray. "The Eraser's" most controversial song is "Harrowdown Hill," named after the Oxfordshire neighborhood where authorities found the body of Dr. David Kelly, a whistle-blower who allegedly committed suicide after telling a reporter that Tony Blair's government had falsely identified biological weapons in Iraq.

"I called it 'Harrowdown Hill' because it was a really poetic title," he said. "To me it sounded like some sort of battle, some civil war type thing. Finishing the song, I was thinking about the 1990 Poll Tax Riots — another of England's finest moments, when they beat … protesters, and you know, there were old ladies there and kids with families. I didn't expect that many people to realize that Harrowdown Hill was where Dr. Kelly died. I'm not saying the reference isn't there, but there's more to it."

"Harrowdown Hill" makes its point through startling sounds and shards of emotionally charged speech; it's as political as a private, even secret, moment can be. Its startling beauty is typical of "The Eraser" — which, like all of Yorke's best work, finds its strength in the spaces where words and music dissolve, only to form something new. Literary types might call it poetics. For Yorke, it's all about hearing the world through the individual voice.

"I have friends who were involved in the tsunami," he said. "Talking to them, you realize that no matter how huge or terrifying an event is, you're not going to grasp it from the newspaper; it doesn't even matter if you see the wave on television. The only way you can actually relate to it is when someone explains their experience, one to one."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on July 01, 2006, 09:11:40 PM
Tour winds down, and Radiohead loosens up
The British rock band ends its North American jaunt at the Greek, and it plays with noticeable passion.
By Richard Cromelin, Los Angeles Times

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Radiohead's mobile music laboratory rolled into Los Angeles for its final experiments Thursday, nearly a month after it kicked off its North American schedule in Philadelphia. Its two tour-closing nights at the Greek Theatre concluded the iconoclastic art-rockers mission of road-testing new songs intended for an upcoming album.

In doing so, the band is disregarding the conventional wisdom that audiences have no patience for unfamiliar material. But then conventional wisdom doesn't apply so much to Radiohead, which has released enough uncommercial music to ensure that its audience is purged of casual fans, leaving those who relish being challenged by the band.

Pretty much, anyway. There might have been a few murmurs of discontent Thursday, at one point prompting singer Thom Yorke to explain that if they weren't doing new songs, they'd still be at home. Overall, though, the sold-out crowd was appropriately attentive and involved, perhaps realizing that this was an opportunity to be savored, and one that could never be duplicated.

Radiohead dropped eight new tunes into its 23-song set, and if a few weeks on the road have worked any change, it was primarily a looseness in music and manner. The exotic "15 Step" seemed more naturally sinuous, and "Nude" and "Down Is the New Up" elicited a light, swinging touch from the band (light and swinging for Oxford art-rockers, anyway). The newest entry was the ballad "All I Need," which made its debut at a Chicago concert last week.

Yorke was also more outgoing than he was at the tour opener, bantering a bit with the crowd and sometimes playfully moving to the front of the stage and casting an enigmatic gaze into their faces. The laughs and smiles among the five musicians reflected the predominantly lighter tone of the new material.

Not that they've relinquished their jurisdiction over the more troublesome side of human nature. Doubts and darkness lurk even in the more serene new songs, and when they fired up the old favorites from albums "OK Computer," "Kid A," et al., they played them with undiminished passion and conviction.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: london on July 10, 2006, 04:01:18 PM
Genius.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on July 12, 2006, 12:00:59 AM
The Eraser
Thom Yorke
Reviewed by Greg Kot; Entertainment Weekly
 
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It's widely assumed that singer Thom Yorke calls most of the shots in Radiohead. But the other four guys aren't just window dressing — as Yorke's solo debut, The Eraser, proves.

In between the drawn-out recording sessions for the U.K. quintet's seventh album (due in 2007), Yorke quietly cobbled together the songs for his first solo release with longtime producer Nigel Godrich.

It's not much of a departure. In fact, many of the tunes could pass for Radiohead demos. Some even include sampled slices of discarded songs from the band. The jittery tempos and click-pop loops, the alien atmospherics, the sense of doom — the shadows of Radiohead's electro-tinged past (''The Gloaming,'' ''Idioteque'') lurk everywhere.

The most significant difference is how Godrich recorded Yorke's voice. Gone are the studio effects that tend to alter, distort, or submerge his vocals on Radiohead albums. Instead, his falsetto is remarkably exposed and vulnerable as it meditates on a series of slow-moving melodies. The effect is unsettling: a schoolboy trying to sing away the anxiety as he wanders into a deep, dark virtual forest.

Given much of the album's subject matter, it's an apt strategy. Rock's most prominent worrywart seems positively forlorn as he obliquely addresses everything from global warming to the fallout from the Iraqi war. ''So many lies, so many lies, so many lies,'' he warbles over a minimalist grid of electronic blips and bloops on ''Atoms for Peace.'' On ''The Clock,'' time is not on his side, or the planet's. And ''Harrowdown Hill'' is the sound of ominous footsteps gaining on the hapless: ''You will be dispensed with when you've become inconvenient.''

But the arrangements are equally forbidding, laptop soundscapes with snippets of more traditional instrumentation (guitars, piano), and the overall mood is austere and claustrophobic, even when compared with Radiohead at their most austere and claustrophobic (Kid A, for starters).

Whereas Radiohead pop tension with moments of grandeur, The Eraser cultivates uneasiness with snaky melodies that never make it to a roof-raising chorus. The closest Yorke gets to cutting loose is the distressing chant that splits ''And It Rained All Night'': ''It's relentless, invisible, indefatigable, indisputable, undeniable.'' But even this is more fitting for a feverish night spent shivering under the sheets than an arena-rousing celebration.

One could imagine the dynamics, colors, and crescendos his bandmates might've added, and without them Yorke sounds hemmed in. On its own modest terms, The Eraser provides insight into Radiohead's inner workings. It demonstrates that Yorke needs Radiohead as much as it needs him to transform anxiety into rock arias of enduring beauty and power. Grade: B-
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on July 14, 2006, 09:56:57 AM
OK, The Eraser... it's not the album I expected but it's the one I should have expected.  After first listen, I don't love it but don't hate it.  RK got it right.

I think it's loose, not lazy... like a sleepy amnesiac.

It must be nice to be in a position in which you can record yourself in your spare time and sell 100,000 copies of it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on July 16, 2006, 04:03:47 PM
i was disappointed after first listen. havd thoughts that THE band for me was aging and becoming irrelevant, but the next day i listened through it 3 or so times at work and now i love it.

there's a reason you compare it to Amensiac - i believe i read Yorke pretty much recorded I Might Be Wrong himself at his house doing the guitar and drum machine. it also sounds like Clocks is made up from cutting up bits of Hunting Bears.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on July 16, 2006, 10:46:02 PM
havd thoughts that THE band for me was aging and becoming irrelevant, but the next day i listened through it 3 or so times at work and now i love it.
you shouldn't be judging the band by thom yorke's solo release, or vice versa.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on July 17, 2006, 12:53:36 AM
nice to be in a position in which you can record yourself in your spare time and sell 100,000 copies of it.

Thom Yorke strips on a webcam?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on July 17, 2006, 02:02:06 PM
only a listen and a half in, but i'm just not enjoying the eraser whatsoever.  first reaction is that it honestly sounds like someone with not too much talent put it together.  like a friend messing around with his/her pro tools.  therere bits & pieces that caught my ear but in the end i felt nothing but annoyance from thom's voice.  ouch.   
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on July 17, 2006, 07:25:35 PM
havd thoughts that THE band for me was aging and becoming irrelevant, but the next day i listened through it 3 or so times at work and now i love it.
you shouldn't be judging the band by thom yorke's solo release, or vice versa.

this actually started from bits of Amnesiac, HTTT and some of the new songs. actually i don't think it's some much the songs but the way it's produced.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on July 18, 2006, 06:13:04 AM
this actually started from bits of Amnesiac, HTTT and some of the new songs. actually i don't think it's some much the songs but the way it's produced.
what, who cares? the band could STILL be aging and irrelevant for all you know. this is by thom yorke not the band. thom yorke is not the band and the band did not make Eraser. you're doing thom and the band an injustice by judging them together on their separate work.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on July 18, 2006, 10:38:48 AM
ok, third spin is the ticket.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on July 18, 2006, 10:01:29 PM
this actually started from bits of Amnesiac, HTTT and some of the new songs. actually i don't think it's so much the songs but the way it's produced.
what, who cares? the band could STILL be aging and irrelevant for all you know. this is by thom yorke not the band. thom yorke is not the band and the band did not make Eraser. you're doing thom and the band an injustice by judging them together on their separate work.

i don't agree and we'll have to leave it at that.
thom is the main songwriter and radiohead is the collective that brings what they have to embelish on his songs. if thom is 'old' than the entire band is by the transitive property, which means we are now 'old' by listening to them. the eraser is not what started my thought of aging, it confirmed that thought through the first listen and change upon subsequent ones.

p.s. i enjoyed the Rollins Cymbal Rush vid
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on July 20, 2006, 01:43:18 PM
eating my own words of course because i love the eraser.  should have known better to judge it after fist listen.  was on my way to a birthday party, so i picked it up beforehand - got lost/incredibly tired etc.  great, now i'm giving one of those posts where i tell my little story and give reasons no one should care about.  I'M THAT GUY!

 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on July 22, 2006, 10:36:49 PM
Thom Yorke performing The Clock and Cymbal Rush, plus interviews, from The Henry Rollins Show.

Scroll down to MUSICAL GUEST:

http://henryrollins.ifc.com/episodes/guide.jsp?episode_id=0016
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on July 26, 2006, 12:50:24 PM
OK Computer - A Classic Album Under Review [DVD]

A 53-minute documentary on Radiohead OK Computer will be released on September 19th, entitled "Radiohead: OK Computer - A Classic Album Under Review". A press release from MVD Visual claims it includes never before available material on DVD. "The DVD also includes rare musical performances such as live and studio versions of each song on OK Computer, and Creep from Pablo Honey. It's packed with obscure footage of comments, criticisms and insights on every track from the album by; writer, journalist, and author of Radiohead: A Guide To Their Music, Mark Paytress; respected rock authority and ex-Mojo editor, Barney Hoskyns; Radiohead biographer Alex Ogg, and more."

(http://www.ateaseweb.com/imgnews/okcdvd.jpg)

Bonus Video // The Hardest Interactive Radiohead Quiz In The World Ever // Full Contributor Biographies  // Beyond DVD section

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Easy Star All-Stars, who brought you 2003's reggae version of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon (renamed Dub Side of the Moon), have done it again. On August 22 they'll roll out Radiodread: A Complete Reggae Version of Radiohead's OK Computer, featuring guest vocals from Toots and the Maytals, Citizen Cope, Horace Andy, Morgan Heritage, the Meditations, Israel Vibration and Sugar Minott. The band will perform the dub-ified work in its entirety at the All Good Music Festival on July 13.

reggae version of No Surprises (http://www.ezarchive.com/bugxy/AlbumSpace/2B6Z50NNTV/10+No+Surprises+*28Radiohead+Cover*2C+Reggae+Version*29.mp3)  :ponder:
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donwood's eraser artwork would make the most confusing jigsaw puzzle ever*

(http://www.slowlydownward.com/rowing_man.jpg)
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(http://www.lazinc.com/content/images/stanley/jigsawlarge.jpg)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on July 29, 2006, 04:19:20 PM
thom yorke comes clean about radiohead's albums and the eraser -- from recent spin magazine interview

pablo honey
"some of the songs we did justice to, and some we were in a bit of a hurry to do. but i think we did a good job on that record, considering we were kind of wet behind the ears."

the bends
"i like the fact that the bends was so direct, but it requried a lot of aborted versions and starting over. for 'street spirit (fade out),' we were bashing our heads against the wall for days and not getting anywhere. we had countless versions that didn't make sense. i was being impatient."

ok computer
"the house [in bath, where it was recorded] was the most haunted house we ever encountered. some people saw things; some people heard things. what tends to happen to me with haunted houses is i hear the thoughts of this other entity. you can't determine what they're saying; they're not that specific. unless you're under the infulence, and it gets really specific!"

kid a
"i often think about the horn section on 'the national anthem.' me and jonny were standing in front of all these players: jonny was writing out scores, and i was going, 'just play it like a bunch of cars in a traffic jam! they're really cross!' i really didn't give a shit what they started playing. i was listening to a lot of charles mingus. i wanted to take that to the extreme."

amnesiac
"it never felt right to make kid a and amnesiac all one record; they both have [their own] weird flow. amnesiac has some good songs on it, we play 'dollars and cents' a lot. and i'm really proud of 'you and whose army?': jonny was listening to [30s vocal group] the ink spots, and he and nigel had a bee in their bonnet about how it should be done. and i was like, 'are you sure about that?'"

hail to the thief
"of all the records we did, i'd maybe change the playlist. i think we had a meltdown where we put it together. 'there there' is amazing, and '2+2=5' is good, but as nigel says, i wish i had another go at that one. we wanted to do things quickly, and i think the songs suffered. it was part of the experiment. every record is part of the exeriment."

the eraser
"ain't no fat on this record -- it's a lean motherfucker. short records are a good idea -- 40 minutes is the length of a school lesson, isn't it? besides, we didn't have a lot left over. there's a b-side called 'drunk machine,' which was cool, but the eraser has a nice sheen to it, and if we put that in, it would have been like putting a massive stink bomb in the middle of the record."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on July 29, 2006, 08:13:26 PM
"it would have been like putting a massive stink bomb in the middle of the record."
track 4: black swan
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on July 29, 2006, 10:59:21 PM
i like Black Swan.
in either the Spin or Paste article he said Black Swan was done really fast and the first thing he showed Nigel when they started the record.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on July 30, 2006, 02:18:20 AM
"it would have been like putting a massive stink bomb in the middle of the record."
track 4: black swan
Ehh, I pretty much agree with Pubrick. I usually hit track forward when Black Swan starts.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on July 31, 2006, 06:58:56 PM
i haaaaaaaaaaaated that one especially at first... now i must say i like it. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on July 31, 2006, 09:46:15 PM
I don't get the Black Swan hatred.  I get not loving it but I don't understand how, if you like the rest of the album, that one song can elicit such negative emotions.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sickfins on August 04, 2006, 10:33:42 AM
there's a b-side called 'drunk machine,' which was cool, but the eraser has a nice sheen to it, and if we put that in, it would have been like putting a massive stink bomb in the middle of the record."

seriously though it's true
the drunkk machine is one of the scariest songs i've ever heard
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on August 17, 2006, 12:38:04 PM
(http://www.pastemagazine.com/images/articles/3179_image_1.jpg)

Thom Yorke
Dancing In the Dark
Source: Paste Magazine
 
“Thom Yorke looks like a dashboard hula dancer on speed!” This is what I’m yelling into my friend’s ear as we sit seventh-row, dead-center while Radiohead blasts the Boston Skyline with one of its nine new tunes, “Bangers and Mash,” a rock-infused, drum-driven distant cousin of the band’s characteristically electronic-laden soundscapes. My friend nods in agreement, and screams back, “You’re right—he does look like Dr. Evil’s son, Seth Green!”

Given the volume’s intensity, it’s useless to correct him. All I know is that the band’s harmonic vibrations could alter the flight path of migrating birds—and that the little white boy from Oxford can freaky dance.

Before I begin windmills on my air guitar, the menacing Chicken Little strains of Hail to the Thief’s “Where I End and You Begin (The Sky is Falling In)” start bleeding through the speakers. Add the artsy angles and security-camera quality of the live-video feeds on the 10 trapeziums hanging behind the band—plus the ambient melancholy wafting through the tent like dry-ice fog—and Yorke’s mirrored image fuels some seriously creepy disconcertment. Before I decide whether to raise my lighter or run for cover, someone hurls a pair of socks on stage.

“I was really hoping for a bra, Tom Jones style,” says Yorke without missing a beat. So the Oxford white boy also has a sense of humor.

And therein lies the rub—how is it possible for someone constantly portrayed in the press as a distant, gloomy, neurotic elitist to be having so much fun twirling and gesticulating around stage fronting one of the biggest bands in the world? For the rest of the show, Yorke effortlessly walks the tightrope between unleashing banshee yowls of feedback into the sound hole of his guitar on “The National Anthem” and taking sarcastic jabs at Big Business. “So I was walking around the venue earlier, and I happened to see the Cadillac VIP. Does owning a Caddy make you a VIP? Typical Clear Channel or whatever they’re called now. ‘I know, we’ll change our name and now no one will hate us.’ Yeah, right,” he says and then launches into “Hail to the Thief.”

Perhaps Yorke’s art and vitality come not from the balancing, but from the tension in the tightrope. And did I mention the dancing? At one point I swear Yorke was about to scream, “Now is the time on Sprockets when we dance!” Whether he’s deadly serious or merely engaging in subversive tomfoolery, fans and critics alike can now search for an explanation by dissecting Yorke’s ?rst solo album, The Eraser (XL Recordings). Fortunately, I have plans to meet with Yorke in the morning, so I stop analyzing and start dancing.

With all the hoopla surrounding music’s most notoriously prickly frontman, you’d think spending teatime with Yorke would be like hugging a cactus, but sitting across from him over iced tea at the band’s hotel, I’m struck by the ease of his demeanor, naturally congenial with a quick cat-who-ate-the-canary grin. With my ears still ringing church bells from the night before, I give him some homegrown honey to help his throat. His son takes honey to help his asthma, he says. If you believe some of the reviews of Radiohead’s Hail to the Thief, parenthood has somehow mellowed Yorke’s writing. Critics pointed out that the album had hints of accessibility where the previous two had none—a sign that he’s pulled back on the obstreperous band’s reigns.

Yorke simply roll his eyes, “I just think it’s bullshit. People just project; they’re going to write whatever they write. They want to project your life onto your music, which is very handy, but as far as I’m concerned, it’s all nonsense. Especially since I think Hail to the Thief has some of the darkest stuff we’ve ever written. But it’s much easier to gloss over that point and project; it makes for an easier story to write. … It’s an unacceptable part of the rock ’n’ roll mythmaking; it just goes to show how f—ed up it is that once a woman or a man becomes a parent, and still chooses to make music, that the music is somehow toned down or lighter-edged—well that can only be written by [journalists] who don’t have kids. I would agree that one’s perspective can change, but the anger and that edge is simply something different.” Being the father of a precocious two-year-old myself, we also talk about how time—either spent fighting for grand causes or exploring muses—seems to vanish after having kids. He lets out a laugh in acknowledgment and counters, “You know the Nike logo that reads ‘Just Do It?’ Well, I got a big page in my sketchbook that looks just like it, but it says, ‘AH, F— IT.’” This idea of time for reflection being precious as a parent was nicely illustrated by the fact that the only place I could really listen to The Eraser was in my car. Due to the ultra-sensitive copyright protection on my watermarked advance copy, computer play was out of the question, and since my home stereo has been overtaken by my son’s constant rotation of Dan Zanes, Buck Howdy and Sesame Street CDs, I found myself sitting alone, late at night, in my driveway, blasting Yorke’s new sonic manifesto. With the windows rolled up and German-engineered soundproo?ng, the exquisitely belligerent beats and frequencies emanating from my secluded chamber kept nagging familial responsibilities at bay. After several plays it’s uncanny how the album seems to exist in a musical vacuum—each track carries its own weight, but as a collection it spins in its own distinct orbit.

Yorke affirms my reaction with amusement. “Well, that’s where [I came up with most of the ideas for the record.] It’s funny, my father used to [sit in the car and listen to music], and I also used to do it, as well, because we never had a stereo in our house; the only place to listen was in my dad’s Volvo.”

While on first pass the album seems a mere epilogue to the progression of Radiohead’s albums to date, the textures and spirit of each cut begin to mingle in lambent grooves upon subsequent visits—never more so than on “Black Swan,” which is so deep in the pocket with joint-poppin’ dance-funk that you keep forgetting the beat came from a little laptop.

“‘Black Swan’ was kind of an accident,” Yorke says. “I mean the whole idea for the record wasn’t, ‘Yes, we’re going to make an album now.’ When [producer] Nigel [Godrich] and I were talking about doing it, it was toward the end of the whole Hail to the Thief thing, and I’d been banging on about it for ages and figured it was about time we tried this out. We had lots of random laptop sketches that I finally had the nerve to present to Nigel, and he was like ‘Eh, it’s OK.’ I knew I was going to see him again [in the studio] in another week so I was like ‘OK, next time around I’m going to blow his socks off’ … so, the first thing I did was ‘Black Swan’ and it took me all of 10 minutes. That said, a lot of this record was compiled by doing a huge, mammoth editing job, which Nigel is very good at, where you have a six-minute piece where the first five-plus minutes are really noisy—which, of course, I really like—and then Nigel hears the last 40 seconds and says, ‘I’m having that!’ But when you listen, ‘Black Swan’ is the key that opens up the rest of the record—once you ‘get it,’ all the other songs start falling into place. Because when we were putting this together, I deliberately wanted to do something that wasn’t too long, in order to sustain your focus, and—as you say—everything bounces off each other. I basically wanted it to work like [David Bowie’s] Hunky Dory, but with electronics.”

The thought of the Thin White Duke’s flirtation with folk-driven dancehall music permeating The Eraser’s machine-shop vibe keeps Yorke laughing. He first considered making a solo record back in 2001 when he started getting his head around using a laptop to cut up and rearrange sounds and snippets of music. This might sound like a painstaking approach, but the new album didn’t take long to record.

“It was a real breeze,” he says. “I’d done a lot of preparation work already, and Nigel wasn’t allowing me to do endless new programming. It’s a lot of me at home, with a bit of stuff on the road. But it all feeds back to how I work, even with Radiohead. I have a huge bank of small sections of sounds that I really like but that never worked, or just don’t have a point to them yet. I tend to work on those and call them up, change ’em around and then add ’em all up. Then I sample them and re-cut them until it finally takes shape.”

When I ask if he then tries to sneak those snippets back under the 40 seconds of stuff Nigel likes, Yorke nods, shrugs his shoulders and smiles; I swear you can see little yellow feathers stuck in his teeth.

“With this record, it was a bit mad because there were no songs; I didn’t go into the project with Nigel intending to write songs. I mean, Nigel may’ve had it on his mind—since he’d been working with Paul McCartney, Mr. Melody—and didn’t intend on telling me. In fact, all the lyrics came as it was going along, which was somewhat of a difficult situation, because the only way I could really complete them, bizarrely, was to try and play most of the tracks on an instrument. Generally speaking, I couldn’t write just listening to the laptop. I know that Stipey [Michael Stipe] has done this over the years, where R.E.M. sends him tracks, and he drives around in this old Volvo, and he used to write lyrics like that. I have done a lot that way, but I was finding the pace of what we were doing so fast that I just didn’t have time. So, the easiest way to do it was desperately figure out how to play it. Which is really interesting because it feeds back to the guitar part in ‘Black Swan,’ which hadn’t been there for ages. But to sing something, I needed to strum something and then the song came, a very peculiar way around.”

If you’ve ever perused Radiohead’s album inserts you can see the trend of cerebral chaos splayed over the pages. Thus, it’s easy to imagine Yorke really woodshedding in order to puzzle together all these scraps of paper and journal entries to create something tangible and cohesive. “The focus was a good thing,” he says. “It was a kick up the ass. I mean, within the band context, I’m used to having lots of time to develop because you’re sharing the tunes with other people, and the songs and lyrics naturally evolve. But, if you’re just sitting there with the stuff and you’ve got to concentrate, it’s difficult, especially since you got Nigel just sitting next door whistling and waiting. I don’t like time-wasting either, but I also wanted it to sound natural,” he chuckles. “Yeah, right—make people think I’ve had this stuff kicking around for ages.

“My favorite was ‘And it Rained all Night,’ just because I’d never written a lyric like that before. It was basically a cut-and-paste of something I’d written, where I had my lounge just covered in bits of paper, and one was four pages long, which I cut down and cut down—all the way through thinking, ‘This is never going to work.’ Then we actually ended up recording it on a full moon through the night, because I have one those big, fat telescopes my partner bought me, and since Nigel is the only one who knows how to use it, when he comes to my house it’s like ‘come on, set it up for me.’ So I’d go up to the roof and look at the moon and then run back downstairs and quickly write away. Back and forth, it was really good, actually; it surprised me to write that lyric. And it really surprised me that I got Nigel’s voice in the headphones at the end going, ‘Yeah, that’s good,’ because all the way through I was thinking ‘this is so wack, it’s never going to work.’”

Some listeners will see the new album’s clear, reverb-free vocals and musical accessibility as a brave step forward in Yorke’s writing, and some will see it as a retro move to capture past acclaim. For some reason, critics are always angling for a return to the relative simplicity of Pablo Honey or The Bends.

“I find it surreal—‘He’s found melody again.’ They all say that. It’s like the story is already written … ‘It’s their back-to-basics record,’” Yorke laughs. “Ahhhh no! It’s the same old shit every time.”

The Eraser, however, is not the same old shit, by any means. In a very true way, it’s an album of love songs. But before you think Yorke has gone completely soft, by clarification, the “love” here is the whole package, complete with mean streaks and caustic wit, not merely the trite, romantic-idealist definition. “Who would want to listen to that crap?” Yorke says. “It’s not real; love isn’t like that. Well, it isn’t for me—maybe that’s why I don’t get any action,” he laughs.

For Yorke, a true love song speaks to the realities of love—the egotistically sadistic side, the analytical side, the physical depravation side, all of it, not some ‘Here are your roses, I love you darling’ Lionel Richie sendup.

“Happily ever after… not!”

The Eraser’s title track is the most pointed. The first lines you hear on the album are, “Please excuse me, but I got to ask, are you only being nice because you want something? / My fairytale Arab princess be careful how you respond / You might end up in this song.”

When asked to comment on the lyrics of “The Eraser” there’s a long pause before he simply answers, “I can’t.”

Fair enough. Luckily all good lyrical poetry acts as kernels for greater meaning. Clues to any broader existentialist statements might be gleaned from the album’s website (TheEraser.net), which opens with a small animation sequence backed by an ethereal dirge with the smallest speck of melodic hope. Fronted by theater curtains, pen-and-ink cardboard cutouts of dark clouds and storm waves lurch across the stage. A small figure in a dory clings to life while being chased by large buildings with serpentine tentacles. The monster “sea-edifices”—including the U.S. Capitol building, British Parliament and Big Ben—are followed by several nondescript industrial plants and, finally, a small, lone black animal riding a plank of wood. Menacingly, the sea and clouds grow darker before fading to black when, suddenly, the sequence ends with a large man cloaked in a black hat and overcoat holding back the surging storm waters with his outstretched hand. Like Edward Gorey meets an episode of Captain Pugwash, the dark chase obviously symbolizes some ominous harbinger Yorke sees on the horizon. Fortunately, when he explains why he titled the album The Eraser, he’s more forthcoming.

“I was reading this book about the death of Aldo Moro, the head of the Christian Democrat party in Italy who was murdered by the Red Brigades in the ’70s—which was a big deal when I was a kid. Before he died he’d written all these letters and was disowned and ‘erased’ from Italian Politics. Even before he died everyone was saying, ‘Well, he’s obviously lost his mind; the person writing these letters to newspapers in desperation is obviously not the real thing.’ It got me thinking. For me, a lot of the record is about living in a world where things like Iraq happen. You pick up The New York Times and there’s one little column saying ‘a bunch of soldiers blow away 100 people they’re trying to save because they were on speed’ and over on another column there’s some other small piece on how they should be brought home, OK and next page—the ability to erase these people from one’s [consciousness], partly in order to exist day-to-day, exists. Also, all these nightmare scenarios that are going on in the background. In Britain, it’s almost too much the other way. People in the U.K. are constantly talking about climate change right now, but the big fear is that it’s become some bizarre fad, and I’m a bit freaked because it doesn’t really work like that. Talk about ‘erasing,’ what about New Orleans? I mean Stipe and some other artists have been talking about it, but, oh my God, how can you do that? How can you erase all these people like they don’t exist? Obviously there’s the personal thought of me trying to erase this or that from my mind to move on because there are all these things going on, and then I thought, ‘No, the record is much more a response to the political environment and general public psyche.’ It’s a response to the ability to [snaps his fingers] and these issues can just go away.

“In Britain there was a massive thing called the Hutton Inquiry, where there was this scientist, David Kelly, who was the chief chemical-weapons person in Britain. He was a whistle-blower on the lack of WMDs in Iraq. He was rather inconvenient, much like [outed CIA operative] Valerie Plame, so he was outed by the U.K.’s Ministry of Defense by saying he was a leak, and that he was the one talking to the press when he shouldn’t, and he ended up ‘committing suicide.’ I feel really funny talking about it because he lived locally to us and I have friends who know his family, and to me, it’s this incredibly dark period in British life, where basically the entire country held the prime minister responsible for it because his press man said, ‘I want this guy rid of, I want him erased; I want him gone.’ So there was this Hutton Inquiry, which naturally said the Ministry of Defense was probably at fault with the way they handled his outing, so obviously the prime minister can’t be held responsible, which everyone thought was a crock of shit, but—poof—it went away; it was whitewashed. It was erased, and the culprits are all still there, and this poor man died for whatever reason. It seems like this very, very small thing, but it’s an expression of something much wider and much more frightening.”

As we discuss the Orwellian nature creeping into the world’s collective psyche, Yorke’s other side begins to appear, the one similar to Toto sniffing around the Wizard’s curtain. Unlike what most critics would have you believe, Yorke isn’t a pessimist; he’s a realist with a mighty big spotlight. Yet, continually using one’s influence as an artist to shed light on the atrocities of modern life isn’t really in the job description, though it’s always tempting.

“I wouldn’t want to take on that kind of responsibility, but I think I can’t help finding myself—given the particular weapon I have at my disposal—wanting to use it occasionally in certain circumstances. But I think it’s best used inside the music; that’s where you can have the best effect. Some people are able to do it—Neil Young, Bob Marley; Bob Dylan’s done it endlessly. Lots of rap does it; Public Enemy does it endlessly, so it’s possible to do and do well. But I always have to be aware when it comes to writing and when it comes to music, you don’t just come and say, ‘I want to put this in the song.’ It naturally evolves, and it’s naturally a part of what’s going on. … Anger is an energy source for me, especially lyrically when I’m presented with something I consider utter madness. … My writing is a constant response to doublethink.

“A big, formative thing for me, having left college, was reading Manufacturing Consent by [Edward S.] Herman & [Noam] Chomsky. All these issues that were being knocked around at college and then someone just going, ‘boom—It’s like this!’ You’re never the same again because a light has been turned on and you’re like, ‘OK, I get it, now I get it.’ I know you can easily fall into all the conspiracies and shit, but for a long time Chomsky just keyed open these things that’d been rattling around in my head. It’s very easy to get too speci?c about it and too conspiratorial, but to me it’s just about a change in mindset.

“I think I’m more acutely aware now than I was that the vast majority of human life on this earth is concerned with looking after their babies and making sure there’s enough food to eat. … For me there’s a different sort of ‘compassion’ there—for want of a better word—and I’m much more interested in trying to not be part of the fetish of general politics and the personality cults of this or that figure in public life because, to me, that’s all part of the game of irrelevance, which is, in a way, the fog held up for people to just ignore what’s going on in their life. I find a lot of politics nowadays are like soap operas, and something that’s a major political issue can be so quickly hijacked by this or that personality, for this or that reason, which diffuses a potentially life-threatening issue for millions of people and transfers it onto this culture of irrelevance. It’s very easy to get sucked into that. Talking about politics, don’t talk about [defense secretary] Rumsfeld. Talk about the reason he’s still in power. Why’s he still in power? Because the Pentagon is so powerful. That’s more scary than f—in’ Rumsfeld.”

Yorke has walked the walk with many causes in the past including a couple high-profile events with Neil Young, Michael Stipe and The Beastie Boys, but while most of those focused on using music as an outreach tool, Yorke worked for a while offstage with Bono on debt reduction. Teaming with someone who has such a wide audience, he figured, was a valuable opportunity to help create a better collective mindset. But—in Bono’s fight—while the goals are morally unshakable, his methods have raised a few eyebrows.

“I think what he does for AIDS is amazing,” says Yorke. “No one else seems to have that energy. I think what happened with the Drop the Debt campaign, unfortunately, is that the very people responsible for those debts, the G8—as these things go in high-level politics, if someone chooses to engage with them saying, ‘I want you to help this or change that,’ they want something in return. They don’t give a f— if it’s morally right, they just want the photo op, and that’s where I got off the ride.”

Power brokers attempting to capitalize on the intensity and devotion of Radiohead’s audience is obviously a cunning, deviant method of attracting support for political issues. But, remember, this audience is comprised of musical zealots. A picture of a politician’s arm around Thom Yorke isn’t necessarily going to open up a demographic some interest group is desperately trying to convert. Still, Yorke is acutely aware of the power of his iconology, how it can be abused, and how, in the end, it can actually hurt the greater cause.

“After all the talk, they don’t do shit; they get something out of it and you get nothing in return. Not only that but they play the blackmail game where it doesn’t seem to matter that there may be millions of kids outside, Genoa for example, getting the shit kicked out of them by the Italian police behind big steel fences because what matters is the image. When the representatives of the G8 get together they seem to forget they were actually put in power by the people they’ve chosen to ring a fence around, and that they’re accountable to these people. They tried to do the bizarre blackmail scheme with me because I’m involved with Friends of the Earth who are trying to get the British Government to reduce carbon emissions by 50 percent by 2050. They were talking about setting up a meeting with me and Tony Blair. I wasn’t particularly happy or wild about meeting the guy who took us into Iraq, and then they started talking about having a few meetings beforehand with us [Yorke lapses into a formal British voice] just to discuss how the day would go, and to make sure I was ‘onsides,’ so that if perhaps after the meeting I said things less than positive about the situation and what Blair was doing… just to remind me that [kind of behavior] may well jeopardize Friends Of The Earth’s access to the Prime Minister in the future. That’s called ‘blackmail,’ and that’s exactly what they used to do with Bono. And I don’t think that’s good enough, and it’s not Bono’s fault. The constant discussion I’ve had with him about it was, ‘I’ll try to work from the inside, and you try and work from the outside,’ which is good. But what I worry about is that you don’t come out of it intact, and it can jeopardize the issue.”

Left to ponder the potential of the Bono/Yorke tag team while the waiter refills our glasses, I begin to see Yorke as a human thaumatrope, a token with two different pictures on the front and back. When you roll it quickly back and forth, the two pictures become one image, flickering and three-dimensional. Like the two faces of Janus, one side represents organic beginnings while the other represents the transition between primitive life and civilization, peace and war; spin them fast enough and you have Thom Yorke. I’m curious to see which side will respond to his album being leaked a month early.

There’s a long pause before he sighs, “I think what we should’ve done was just make a download of it anyway earlier on. The problem is that it leaks from the pressing plant, which is lame. I do think it’s quite nice that all these unofficial Radiohead and blogging sites have said they won’t post it, which is amazing.”

Indeed. This communal stance online against the blatant piracy of Yorke’s work is a huge sign of respect. It not only displays the speed at which a leak can, somewhat organically, be thwarted by fans instead of label lawsuits, but it’s also another legitimizing step for bloggers. Ironically, it’s the type of journalistic integrity Yorke is always hoping for. Still, the hype resulting from the leak wasn’t what he had in mind.

“To me it’s a shame, because in my head I was really excited about the way [The Eraser] came out, and for some reason I was dim enough to think one could keep a lid on it. I mean, it started off with just four people I knew personally having a copy, and we were growing it really naturally which was a nice vibe. It’s a shame because that whole scheme, that whole way of looking at the record, it was like an experiment and it’s all been sort of blown by the leak. When Nigel and I finished the album, we were really excited, partly because it had been really fun to make—and it was quick. We felt like we’d been let out; we did the record without anybody watching; we did it quietly. It was just happening, a couple guys just f—ing hanging out doing the thing we like the most. There were no big scenes, no label people, no aggression, nothing like that. The whole point about the record for me was doing it really low-key. I know that sounds daft, but to me it’s that sort of record. As you said, listen to it in the car or a confined personal space and it makes total sense. And I don’t think it really demands a great deal of discussion because it’s short; to me it’s fairly straightforward, and it’s very direct. The more nonsense talked about it beforehand the less effect it has.”

So let the music do the talking?

Yorke laughs. “It’s indeed an elaborate way of saying that.”

Then this is just an exercise, a little game where you talk to me, I write about it and hopefully my writing piques people’s interest and they go and buy it?

“Yeah, you’re right so let’s stop talking shit!”

Thom Yorke’s duality is in plain view as he talks to his kids on the phone before bedtime. Like any father away from home he’s disappointed he has to miss the ritual of baths and bedtime stories, but he knows that—just like interviews—it’s part of the job. After chatting with him about surfing (he’s horrible, but loves it) and what he last heard on his iPod (the live, ’70s version of Neil Young’s “Hey Hey, My My”) it’s hard to see how the world has missed the funny, energetic, regular-Joe side of Yorke’s personality. Of course, it’s dif?cult to shed the overshadowing cloak of cynicism and despair that hangs over his societal views, but perhaps listeners have simply chosen to ignore his elegant wit and jocular panache because it doesn’t ?t their pigeonholed portrayals of the brooding artiste; the one who speaks for the disenchanted and maligned. In truth, Yorke’s just a concerned customer like the rest of us who feel nasty things are happening to our world, and that no one is really paying attention (hence, this solo album). The real dichotomy comes in his wanting to wake up the world to its complacency by screaming from the rooftops while simultaneously wanting to be nothing more than a good singer in a great rock ’n’ roll band; The Eraser proved a well-timed catharsis for both sides.

“With the Radiohead thing, we basically got to the end of Hail to the Thief and everyone just wanted to stop for a bit. The whole thing was starting to get a bit… stagnant, mostly because our lives were changing and it was difficult to work out what our motives were for doing it. It was just like ‘everyone go away, get away from it and work out why you think we should be carrying on, because just carrying on blindly will reflect in the music, and that’s just a waste of f—ing time. So it was that thing of having to go away to get hungry again and—oh my God—were we hungry! A year and a half at home!”

Radiohead is now in the midst of an extensive summer jaunt through the U.S., Canada and Europe, its first major road stint since 2003. “This tour is just to get away and hang out basically, and it’s been really good,” says Yorke. “Bad gigs are still bad gigs, but to me the high is just about playing the new stuff and hanging out. It’s just the pleasure of playing with each other, because nowadays I feel we play quite differently when we’re on. We play quite differently than we ever used to play. The way we change the grooves and such is really important. It’s also a confidence thing; we lost all our confidence.”

I call bullshit. I find it very hard to believe you’ve lost the swagger.

“Trust me.”

I guess when you’re living inside the vacuum you don’t really see it from the outside-world perspective.

“That’s right, that’s what all my friends say, and it’s Nigel’s favorite stock rant: ‘Man, you just don’t see it, do you—and you never will.’ Well, no, I won’t. That’s the bloody point! For if I did see it, it would just go ‘click,’ and it’d be over anyway.”

Then you’d just be some megalomaniac jackass, and no one wants that.

“Well, I’d give it a go!”
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on August 18, 2006, 01:13:07 PM
Lullaby Rendentions of Radiohead (http://www.babyrockrecords.com/web/page.asp?pgs=product&catid=41&id=410)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on August 18, 2006, 03:06:18 PM
Radiohead continue to get love from musicians of every stripe. High-brow pianist Christopher O'Riley has retooled the band's music for the chin-stroking classical set on two albums. And Dub Tribute to Radiohead: I'm Not the Only Record for You was released earlier this year — as was Exit Music: Songs for Radio Heads, a compilation of electronic covers. So it's little surprise that Radiohead are getting the crunk treatment at the hands of DJ Gyngyvytus. Skeet Spirit: A Crunk Tribute to Radiohead — eight instrumental tracks being offered by the DJ as free downloads — boasts "No Sizzuruprises," "Creepin' (On Dat Ass)" and "Talk Show Hoes" among the cleverly titled tributes to England's favorite dour rockers. And the Easy Stars All-Stars' Radiodread, a reggae comp featuring toasters such as Horace Andy and Citizen Cope, hits stores Tuesday.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on April 05, 2007, 11:49:30 AM
From DEAD AIR SPACE (http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/):

(http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/images/%20S.%20D.%20%20At%20Work.jpg)

Entitled "Mr. D at his Desk" 

This gets me more excited than hearing that they're done recording.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 05, 2007, 04:14:01 PM
i don't get it.

the really need to crank out more than one album over 4 years. i know babies and what have ye had been born, but dang. you know thom didn't stop writing, he put out a solo album in between......plus all the wealth of unreleased gems.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on April 05, 2007, 04:48:25 PM
i don't get it.

the really need to crank out more than one album over 4 years. i know babies and what have ye had been born, but dang. you know thom didn't stop writing, he put out a solo album in between......plus all the wealth of unreleased gems.

I don't get YOU.

you just admitted they were doing stuff, what's the issue?  You'd rather that the unreleased mediocre stuff and the solo stuff were released as Radiohead? 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 05, 2007, 07:08:57 PM
i don't know what the reference is in the picture capture, someone tell me please.

i don't think that only 40 minutes of music in 4 years time from a group of 5 talented musicians is viable.

when they came back from their break they had a pic of a chalkboard with tons of songs. easily two or three albums could have come from that (even if some are subpar). then you have to factor in those songs not yet written at that time, plus prior songs and ones we have no idea that they even exist.

they were on a 2 year/3 year spurt(Kid A/Amn is kinda one), but this is starting to get Kubrick bad.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on April 05, 2007, 07:57:32 PM
this is starting to get Kubrick bad.

you're starting to answer both your and my questions yourself.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 05, 2007, 08:32:55 PM
i was just thinking - if thom had not done Eraser than the Radiohead album would probably be out already and around their 2/3 year album mean.

here's what i'm trying to get across:

i love Radiohead's music and wish they would not wait so long between new albums.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on April 05, 2007, 08:46:14 PM
here's what i'm trying to get across:

i love Radiohead's music and wish they would not wait so long between new albums.

bigidea's Recliner Of Rage

(http://www.nbc.com/Late_Night_with_Conan_O'Brien/images/videos/411x248/nbc_conan_032305_recliner_20060421_2255.jpg)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 05, 2007, 09:54:00 PM
i guess i'm not hip anymore....i'm not getting any of these references

or maybe i weren't ever hip =(
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on April 05, 2007, 10:47:24 PM
ok bigideas i will clarify some things for you.

- mr. d is stanley donwood. he's illustrated most of radiohead's album artwork.
- the recliner of rage is a bit from late night with conan o'brien (not related to ed o'brien).
- ed o'brien is a member of radiohead.

i know what you meant about wanting more radiohead music. but i don't agree with you that "easily two or three albums could have come from that (even if some are subpar.)" i am happier if a few years of hard work result in high quality music than a bunch of shitty albums coming out one after the other (see: NIN).

i was just thinking - if thom had not done Eraser than the Radiohead album would probably be out already and around their 2/3 year album mean.
that's a totally pointless assumption. there's no way of knowing that's how things would have worked out. anyway the eraser is still awesome.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 06, 2007, 07:55:50 AM
yes, i know stanley donwood has done their artwork since The Bends, but when i looked at that i thought it was phil and referencing a movie or something. i had a brain fart and didn't associate 'D' with 'Donwood' for some reason.

no assumption is pointless, for they are assumptions. when i assume something the last thing that it means is that i actually truly believe that answers the question.

about touring, i originally had a longer post in which i said i wish they would stop touring since they generally don't like it if that means more recorded output. just go the way of the beatles and put out records. i love seeing them live though, but records are what last a lot longer.

and yes, i know about how when each new album comes out Thom talks about hating touring and if they'll keep the band together.

if this album/tour turned out to be the last Radiohead venture, you're both saying you don't wish that more of their material was out there? really subpar isn't even the equation to me because i like maybe 95% or more of every track they've released (prob not including Pablo Honey era).
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on April 07, 2007, 03:27:51 AM
no assumption is pointless, for they are assumptions. when i assume something the last thing that it means is that i actually truly believe that answers the question.
ok then your assumption was baseless. which is explained nicely by lucid in the post above. i will add that when radiohead's not making new music, at least we have other people giving us reggae, lullaby, crunk, and classical versions of their songs to tide us over. :|
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on April 07, 2007, 11:49:29 AM
live versions can vary very differently from the studio recordings (which are the everlasting versions).

i guess the only way to officially end the debate is to check back in 20 or 30 years if they release a comprehensive box set of all the unreleased stuff.

(something tells me there will be a lot of good shiz...)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on June 12, 2007, 10:37:19 AM
Radiohead inspire ballet Dotmusic

A ballet inspired by Radiohead will air in Scotland this summer, it has been confirmed.

Stephen Petronio's Ride The Beast is scheduled for performance at the Edinburgh International Festival and features a number of musical reworkings of their songs.

Opening with "Fitter Happier," the performance features five songs from Thom and company in total, from across their career.

Explaining the production, Petronio commented: "Radiohead's music is a brilliant investigation of achingly modern taste. They sail through genre and form effortlessly and passionately, and their music demands a physical response from me that by-passes reason."

Ride The Beast takes place at the Scottish Ballet at the Edinburgh Playhouse on August 18-20.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on August 05, 2007, 12:38:50 AM
I was always one of those dickheads who was like "Pre Kid A Radiohead rules! Everything after OK Computer sucks!!" but gotdamn if I haven't seen the light. Post OKC Radiohead rules.

LP7 is going to be the greatest album of all time. BOOK IT.

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: homesick alien on August 05, 2007, 11:15:57 AM
OK Computer is my favorite album of all time. It really helped me get through the last two years of my small-town high school hell. I think, within the context of the time, The Bends-OK Computer-Kid A is on par with Rubber Soul-Revolver-Sgt. Pepper, in that each following album was a significant leap, but still retained the core heart and soul of the band. I thought Amnesiac got a bad wrap. I really love most of the songs on the album, and I guess I'd then compare it to Magical Mystery Tour as an album that doesn't necessarily stand as a coherent album whole but rather a collection of excellent singles. It's actually Hail to the Thief I had a bit of a problem with. It certainly isn't a bad album, but I thought many songs were too repetitive structurally and Thom's lyrics at points just weren't saying anything. Still, the album starts and closes wonderfully.

My hopes and expectations for LP7 are uncontrollably astronomical. I think every Radiohead fan wants it to blow them away like The Bends/OK Computer/Kid A. They've set the bar too high perhaps, and we're all looking for them to jump over it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on August 06, 2007, 11:32:28 AM
httt ages insanely well btw.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Neil on August 11, 2007, 01:44:59 PM
so, does anyone else have this "down is the new up" a friend brought this over with stars in his eyes. I've never heard the tracks before, and they grew on me for sure. this ring any bells?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on August 11, 2007, 06:24:16 PM
so, does anyone else have this "down is the new up" a friend brought this over with stars in his eyes. I've never heard the tracks before, and they grew on me for sure. this ring any bells?

the song was played on their last tour, but a studio version has not been released. i just checked at ease and there is no mention of a leak of the new album that i see. the album was being mastered in new york a month ago. here is a good update on what is known:

http://ateaseweb.com/discography/newalbum/ (http://ateaseweb.com/discography/newalbum/)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on August 11, 2007, 09:20:35 PM
Theres a bootleg called Down Is The New Up that basically has live versions of all the songs that are supposed to be on the new album. I think that's what he's talking about.

It's pretty good. Videotape is beautiful and 15 step is alot of fun.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on September 07, 2007, 02:49:53 PM
Radiohead's new album is finished...now what?
Source: Paste Magazine

Radiohead fans waiting patiently for the band’s next album may not have to wait too much longer – or they may.

First, the good news: Guitarist Jonny Greenwood confirmed to Paste that the album is done. The not-so-good news is that the band has no idea when fans will be able to hear it.

“We just had a meeting about that today,” said Greenwood on September 7. “We’re very relieved to have finished recording, now we have to decide what we should do with it.”

Radiohead completed its six-album contract with EMI with 2003’s Hail to the Thief and is currently unsigned. Can anyone say bidding war?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on September 07, 2007, 03:01:08 PM
There will be blood.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on September 07, 2007, 04:12:07 PM
has anyone ever got ahold of the PT directed video for We Suck Young Blood?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on September 07, 2007, 04:44:28 PM
Kal and cbrad should use their powers for good and sign Radiohead.

Sound investment if you ask me.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ©brad on September 07, 2007, 06:36:05 PM
Kal and cbrad should use their powers for good and sign Radiohead.

Sound investment if you ask me.

dude why do you think i'm this uber-millionaire? guess what - i'm not.  just this morning i put a $2 bagel on a credit card.

and the fact that you work in advertising really makes me not want to work in advertising anymore.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on September 07, 2007, 06:46:10 PM
Kal and cbrad should use their powers for good and sign Radiohead.

Sound investment if you ask me.

dude why do you think i'm this uber-millionaire? guess what - i'm not.  just this morning i put a $2 bagel on a credit card.

and the fact that you work in advertising really makes me not want to work in advertising anymore.

It's a joke, Igby.

I just remember a post of yours one time where you were all upset because your father wanted you to work at his firm making 6 figures but you just wanted to work on independant movies making pennies and you made it sound like it was the most difficult decision you've ever had to make in your life and it stuck with me. No big deal.

And putting a $2 bagel on a credit card proves that you're a millionaire.

You'd rather take the hit of 12% interest on a $2 bagel than waste time going to an ATM.

Come on, you walked right into that one.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sickfins on September 08, 2007, 08:23:22 AM
has anyone ever got ahold of the PT directed video for We Suck Young Blood?

it doesn't exist!

"I visited [Radiohead] one day in the studio and brought an old Lumiere camera down to play with - but we never shot anything. That would have been great and should happen someday. If you listen to that song, it would fit nicely with that Nosferatu-feeling you can get with that particular camera -- that song has dracula written all over it."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on September 08, 2007, 02:32:24 PM
I thought he said once that he actually shot one, but they had no purpose of putting it out.

Someone direct me to the PTA/Radiohead related interviews please.

**edit**

a link i found quoting Xixax, although Thom does not actually say they filmed it, just that they "wanted to." so only PTA and Radiohead really know i guess.

http://www.kempa.com/blog/archives/000860.html

 "Paul Thomas Anderson came into the studio and he brought this camera with him, it was exactly the same camera model that they shot the Nosferatu in, basically this camera is a box and you wind it, and you have to have a tempo to wind it to and if you wind it fast or slow you get this extraordinary movement, and we wanted to shoot this really over the top vaudeville b-movie thing with it, because that to me is partly where it was coming from, and also it was really sick and sexual in a really peverse way, very L.A. as far as I'm concerened. I think that was the reason why we went to L.A., because 'we suck young blood' was our take on Hollywood really. in fact, we went out to a party that night everyone was dressed as mad hatters, it just fit completely. we went to this place, it was just... [whispers] you people are so silly. and it was like that's how they dressed every day to create an impression. it was brilliant. we felt like old people, maybe we'd missed something."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: mogwai on September 18, 2007, 08:43:40 AM
Radiohead catalogue finally available for download

Radiohead's catalogue is finally being made available for digital download for the first time.

The move comes as the band's record label EMI struck an exclusive UK deal with digital retailer 7digital, which covers classic albums including 'The Bends' and 'OK Computer'.

The group are to make their albums only available as 'complete bundles', preventing tracks from being bought individually, preferring their albums to be heard and sold as complete entities.

7digital is now offering all of Radiohead's albums and a number of earlier singles for sale as bundled DRM (Digital Rights Management)-free MP3s.

http://www.7digital.com/artists/radiohead

note: i know it's british but it's the early singles that sparked an interest.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on September 18, 2007, 09:44:11 AM
they were available on iTunes for a while.  don't tell me i'm crazy.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on September 18, 2007, 11:15:05 AM
they had all their singles on warchild, may still. haven't checked in a long time.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on September 18, 2007, 01:45:22 PM
Aern't they all at 128k?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: mogwai on September 18, 2007, 04:06:29 PM
they were available on iTunes for a while.  don't tell me i'm crazy.

nme.com has a more updated news about this:

Radiohead lifts ban on download

Radiohead have finally made a deal to sell their albums digitally, and will do so through a British digital download service.

The band will sell full albums and previous single releases, as opposed to individual tracks, through 7digital.com, and the music will be available to customers the world over.

Two Radiohead albums 'OK Computer' and 'The Bends' were temporarily available on iTunes a number of years ago, while Thom Yorke's solo album 'The Eraser' is currently available as individual tracks on iTunes.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: sickfins on September 30, 2007, 07:39:03 PM
new album?  10 days?  wait what?

www.radiohead.com
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on September 30, 2007, 08:40:46 PM
What is that? Atease is down.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on September 30, 2007, 08:51:18 PM
omg, so the new album will be out in 10 DAYS?!

This can't be right.

EDIT: Okay, it is right. And you can donate as much as you want for the download. It's up to you. Wow, this is going to get crazy.

The tracklist looks EXCELLENT. It ending with Videotape is PERFECT.

Here's a REALLY good live version of Videotape I uploaded. It's a fantastic song and a PERFECT album closer.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/lfejtw
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on September 30, 2007, 09:36:21 PM
HOLY SHIT!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 01, 2007, 07:58:27 AM

I wonder if "Up On The Ladder" was renamed and is being included on the album ("Reckoner"?  "Jigsaw Falling Into Place"?)

The only alternate title I've ever heard for Reckoner is Feeling Pulled Apart by Horses, so that's not it.

There is no font size big enough to contain how I feel right now!  I was having a shitty morning until this. 

Nude made the cut, contrary to rumors!  Reckoner!  It's a great day!

But the title needs some getting used to.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 01, 2007, 08:55:53 AM
But the title needs some getting used to.

yes, let's talk about that.

historically, pablo shit notwithstanding, radiohead album titles have been extremely insightful and a great encapsulation of the overall themes. this time i haven't at all listened to any of the tracks, except for Arpeggi like once, so i have no idea how "IN RAINBOWS" ties everything together.

i'm thinking EWS. but i always think EWS.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: brockly on October 01, 2007, 11:15:04 AM
Nude made the cut, contrary to rumors!

thank god, that and videotape are probably my favourite tracks of all the new shit. the tracklist is fantastic. theres about 4 songs on there i havent heard before, but from what i have heard (the first 5 tracks and videotape) im really happy with what did/didnt make the cut. 'bangers and mash' never really made an impression on me, im glad its not on there. 'down is the new up' is amazing but given the album title, it doesnt really belong.

and i can't fucking believe its being released in 10 days..! what was all that "no radiohead until 2008" bullshit? and its going to be available online for free on the day?!?! i love them.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 01, 2007, 11:21:06 AM
I wonder if "Up On The Ladder" was renamed and is being included on the album ("Reckoner"?  "Jigsaw Falling Into Place"?), given the photo that was posted on Dead Air Space recently.  Probably not.  As long as "Videotape" is on there I'm happy.  And after all these years, "Nude" finally made the cut!

Now all they need to do is announce some winter/early 2008 tour dates and I'm sure to go into cardiac arrest.



Up on the Ladder is on the bonus disc.
Jigsaw = Open Pick
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: brockly on October 01, 2007, 11:27:11 AM
I wonder if "Up On The Ladder" was renamed and is being included on the album ("Reckoner"?  "Jigsaw Falling Into Place"?), given the photo that was posted on Dead Air Space recently.  Probably not.  As long as "Videotape" is on there I'm happy.  And after all these years, "Nude" finally made the cut!

Now all they need to do is announce some winter/early 2008 tour dates and I'm sure to go into cardiac arrest.



Up on the Ladder is on the bonus disc.
Jigsaw = Open Pick

where did you get this info? do you know what else is going to be on the bonus?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 01, 2007, 11:28:58 AM
how many of you are getting the $82 version and how many of you are getting the FREE one?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: brockly on October 01, 2007, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: brockly
where did you get this info? do you know what else is going to be on the bonus?

nevermind

DISKBOX

CD 1 AND VINYL
15 STEP
BODYSNATCHERS
NUDE
WEIRD FISHES/ARPEGGI
ALL I NEED
FAUST ARP
RECKONER
HOUSE OF CARDS
JIGSAW FALLING INTO PLACE
VIDEOTAPE

CD 2 AND VINYL
MK 1
DOWN IS THE NEW UP
GO SLOWLY
MK 2
LAST FLOWERS
UP ON THE LADDER
BANGERS AND MASH
4 MINUTE WARNING
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 01, 2007, 11:32:07 AM
I'll be interested to hear Last Flowers.  A friend of mine downloaded what he thought was the song years ago but it turned out to be an Ennio Morricone cue from Once Upon a Time in the West.

how many of you are getting the $82 version and how many of you are getting the FREE one?

I am.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 01, 2007, 11:54:44 AM
Radiohead's In Rainbows To Be Released Digitally October 10 -- You Decide The Price!
In yet another challenge to the music business, price for download is: 'It's up to you. ... No, really. 'It's up to you. ... '
Source: MTV

In what could either be described as "the opening salvo in the all-out war for the future of the music industry" or "the most bizarre marketing strategy of all time," Radiohead will release their much-anticipated new album, In Rainbows, via their Web site on October 10, less than three months after they finished mixing and mastering it.

And while a band fast-tracking their new record isn't exactly breaking news these days (Montreal indie-poppers Stars did it earlier this year with In Our Bedroom After the War), what makes Radiohead's release of Rainbows particularly amazing is that fans will get to determine how much the album will cost to download. Seriously!

The album, helmed by longtime Radiohead producer Nigel Godrich, is available in two versions via the band's new, rainbow-y site: as a standard download or as a deluxe edition that comes with Rainbows on both CD and vinyl, plus a second disc of new songs and a lyric book. The deluxe edition runs £40 (about $81). The download version costs whatever you want it to, the price field left blank with only a pair of notes from the band — "It's up to you" and "No, really. It's up to you" — serving as a Jiminy Cricket to potential customers.

With the possible exception of Prince's decision earlier this year to distribute copies of his new LP free with a British newspaper, it's a move that's a first for an artist of Radiohead's stature, and it opens the discussion to several issues the record industry has been grappling with for years: Who owns music? How much should music cost? Do bands of a certain caliber (e.g. Pearl Jam, Dave Matthews Band, Sonic Youth) really need a label to survive? (Currently, Radiohead are without a label, having fulfilled their six-album deal with EMI with 2003's Hail to the Thief, although rumors continue to buzz about an imminent deal for the band.)

Fans who purchase either edition of Rainbows will be given a special code to download it from the band's site on October 10. The download version of Rainbows will be DRM-free, which will allow fans to share it freely. Given the rather, uh, laissez-faire approach Radiohead have adopted for the album, we're not surprised.

According to a spokesperson for the band, Radiohead are also planning "a traditional CD release" of the album for early 2008.

Track list for Radiohead's In Rainbows, according to their publicist.


"15 Step"
"Bodysnatchers"
"Nude"
"Weird Fishes/Arpeggi"
"All I Need"
"Faust ARP"
"Reckoner"
"House of Cards"
"Jigsaw Falling Into Place"
"Videotape"


The deluxe Discbox version of the album also features a second disc with the following songs.


"MK1"
"Down Is the New Up"
"Go Slowly"
"MK2"
"Last Flowers"
"Up on the Ladder"
"Bangers and Mash"
"4 Minute Warning"

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Radiohead Says: Pay What You Want
By JOSH TYRANGIEL; Time Magazine

Roughly 12,000 albums are released in an average year, so the announcement late Sunday night that the new Radiohead record, In Rainbows, will be out Oct. 10 is not itself big news. Sure, Radiohead is on a sustained run as the most interesting and innovative band in rock, but what makes In Rainbows important — easily the most important release in the recent history of the music business — are its record label and its retail price: there is none, and there is none.

In Rainbows will be released as a digital download available only via the band's web site, Radiohead.com. There's no label or distribution partner to cut into the band's profits — but then there may not be any profits. Drop In Rainbows' 15 songs into the on-line checkout basket and a question mark pops up where the price would normally be. Click it, and the prompt "It's Up To You" appears. Click again and it refreshes with the words "It's Really Up To You" — and really, it is. It's the first major album whose price is determined by what individual consumers want to pay for it. And it's perfectly acceptable to pay nothing at all.

Radiohead's contract with EMI/Capitol expired after its last record, Hail to the Thief, was released in 2003; shortly before the band started writing new songs, singer Thom Yorke told TIME, "I like the people at our record company, but the time is at hand when you have to ask why anyone needs one. And, yes, it probably would give us some perverse pleasure to say 'F___ you' to this decaying business model." On Sunday night, guitarist Jonny Greenwood took to Radiohead's Dead Air Space blog and nonchalantly announced, "Hello everyone. Well, the new album is finished, and it's coming out in 10 days. We've called it In Rainbows. Love from us all."

While many industry observers speculated that Radiohead might go off-label for its seventh album, it was presumed the band would at least rely on Apple's iTunes or United Kingdom-based online music store 7digital for distribution. Few suspected the band members had the ambition (or the server capacity) to put an album out on their own. The final decision was apparently made just a few weeks ago, and, when informed of the news on Sunday, several record executives admitted that, despite the rumors, they were stunned. "This feels like yet another death knell," emailed an A&R executive at a major European label. "If the best band in the world doesn't want a part of us, I'm not sure what's left for this business."

Labels can still be influential and profitable by focusing on younger acts that need their muscle to get radio play and placement in record stores — but only if the music itself remains a saleable commodity. "That's the interesting part of all this," says a producer who works primarily with American rap artists. "Radiohead is the best band in the world; if you can pay whatever you want for music by the best band in the world, why would you pay $13 dollars or $.99 cents for music by somebody less talented? Once you open that door and start giving music away legally, I'm not sure there's any going back."

The ramifications of Radiohead's pay-what-you-want experiment will take time to sort out, but for established artists at least, turning what was once their highest value asset — a much buzzed-about new album — into a loss leader may be the wave of the future. Even under the most lucrative record deals, the ones reserved for repeat, multi-platinum superstars, the artists can end up with less than 30% of overall sales revenue (which often is then split among several band members). Meanwhile, as record sales decline, the concert business is booming. In July, Prince gave away his album 3121 for free in the U.K. through the downmarket Mail on Sunday newspaper. At first he was ridiculed. Then he announced 21 consecutive London concert dates — and sold out every one of them.

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Radiohead tells fans to pay what they want for album

Radiohead, one of the world's most influential rock bands, plans to sell its new album from its Web site as a digital download and let fans choose what they want to pay.

With music sales in decline globally for seven successive years, the industry is engaged in a debate over how best to reverse the trend.

Radiohead said its seventh studio album "In Rainbows" would be available from Radiohead.com from October 10 in MP3 format, meaning it can be played on all digital devices. In the latest twist in the move to digital music, fans can choose how much to pay, or can pay nothing if they prefer.

The band will also offer a special edition boxed set for 40 pounds ($82) which will be available later and will include two vinyl albums, a CD version of the new album and a second CD with additional new songs, artwork and photographs of the band.

Music observers said the British five-piece, which is no longer signed to a record label, is able to sell directly to its fans because it has such an established support base.

"They are the first band to put their money where their mouth is," Gareth Grundy, deputy editor of Q music magazine, told Reuters. "I think other bands that have been similarly successful will look and, if it is deemed to have worked, will do the same."

The traditional music business model has been under pressure as piracy and the move to digital sales has cut into album revenues. A strong area of growth, however, is live music and any subsequent tour by Radiohead would be boosted by the interest generated by the album.

"The traditional business model had been ruined by the Internet," said Grundy. "The industry is still trying to work out what on earth the new model or models should be and this is just one option."

Radiohead's digital or boxed set versions could be pre-ordered from the group's Web site from Monday and a spokesman said the box set had so far proved the more popular.

The group is planning a traditional CD release of the album in early 2008.

A decision by U.S. music star artist Prince to give his latest album away free with a British newspaper was met with fury by retailers and the industry who said it undermined the value of recorded music.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 01, 2007, 11:58:03 AM
I ordered the Discbox for roughly $90. I like to have Radiohead on vinyl and I think what they are doing is fantastic.

Everyone, please pay for the album. Donate $10 at least. That's what iTunes would charge.

This is either going to be a huge success and change the face of how music is distributed, or it's going to fail big time and make the record companies have MORE power.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: brockly on October 01, 2007, 12:18:36 PM
anyone who pre-orders the download without donating is a douche
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 01, 2007, 12:30:18 PM
anyone who pre-orders the download without donating is a douche

Sadly, it seems that's what most people are doing. At least from what I read on the oink forums and on Digg.com comments. They all say "Oh, if it's good, I'll donate real money" which you know is just a cop-out.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 01, 2007, 02:00:59 PM
i think this is a genius move.
the boys don't need or care about money i imagine.
if they released it via normal outlets it would leak and people would download it for free anyway - and give that same cop out you mentioned above.
in a way this gives them free promotion.
if you really like the band and want to hear everything then you pay for it. however, i do think there needs to be at least a second option minus the vinyl. i'm going to get the full thing since i have a player, but i'm sure there are tons of fans that don't have one.
all the positive feedback from this will make them even bigger. think of wilco and YHF - they became heroes and bigger than ever and that was only streaming the record before it was released. this is giving high quality downloads of the record for free.

only way i know about the Open Pick title is because i saw it on Wiki.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 01, 2007, 04:04:23 PM
i wonder if you buy the boxset if it will come with a PT Anderson directed video for We Suck Young Blood? 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 01, 2007, 04:21:34 PM
The one made with the lumiere camera? I heard it's awesome. People are comparing it to Nosferatsu.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 01, 2007, 04:23:04 PM
Chere Mill Be Young Blood
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 01, 2007, 04:24:54 PM
i wonder if it exists...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 01, 2007, 08:37:11 PM
Radiohead offers new album online
Group allows consumers to decide price
Source: Variety
 
In what appears to be the most significant experiment since digital downloading began, Radiohead's first album away from a major label will be sold for a price determined by each individual consumer.

The digital download version of "In Rainbows," which began 10 days of pre-sales Monday, can be purchased for as little as a dollar, which the band said will cover only the credit card fee.

Band's website, Inrainbows.com, billed the offer as "It's up to you."

Radiohead has circled a few dates on the calendar for "In Rainbows." It will be available for download on Oct. 10; a special-edition box set, called "Discbox," will be shipped around Dec. 3 and can also be preordered; and a traditional CD version of "In Rainbows" will be released in early 2008.

"Discbox" includes double vinyl and CD versions of the 10-song "In Rainbows" and a second, enhanced CD with an additional eight songs, artwork and photographs of the band. Anyone purchasing the deluxe edition -- price is about $80 -- will automatically receive the bundled MP3 album on Oct. 10.

Radiohead's seven previous albums have been released by EMI's Capitol Records; the past three have charted in the top three in the U.S.

Internationally, the band is even more successful, and as with many superstar rock acts, the end of a contract with a label has meant a reconsideration of that affiliation, even a questioning if one is necessary.

Pearl Jam, for example, left Epic for J Records; the Eagles reunion album involves a unique deal involving Wal-Mart, Universal South and the Eagles' company; and Paul McCartney ended a lengthy relationship with EMI for Starbucks' Hear Music earlier this year. In addition, there have been reports that Madonna will explore creating her own label operation with the expiration of her Warner Music deal.

With this approach, Radiohead has eliminated a label, a wholesaler and retail operations. The risk is that their fanbase will purchase the music for far less than a going rate -- Apple's iTunes would most likely offer the album for between $9 and $10 -- and it is quite possible that the music will be widely pirated despite the official offering at next-to-nothing.

In essence, Radiohead is orchestrating the leak of its new album. No advance copies are being made available for the media or radio, and it will be watched closely to see if the availability of the MP3 version scares off any potential distributors of the hard CD. A distrib for the physical copy has not yet been chosen, nor has any deal been inked with a digital service.

Album was produced by Nigel Godrich, who has produced albums with the band for more than 10 years.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on October 01, 2007, 10:35:46 PM
Any news on when the new album is coming out?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 01, 2007, 10:55:18 PM
Any news on when the new album is coming out?

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/16654550/radioheads_in_rainbows_trackbytrack_preview
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 02, 2007, 10:38:00 AM
A record price for a Radiohead album: $0
The famed British band lets fans decide what to pay for a new release online.
Source: Los Angeles Times

The great riddle facing the record industry in the digital age has been pricing. Napster and its ilk puckishly offered music for "free" in the late 1990s, and the major labels have largely clung to an average of $13 for CDs despite plummeting sales and seasons of downsizing.

Now, one of the world's most acclaimed rock bands, Radiohead, is answering that marketplace riddle with a shrug. "It's up to you," reads a message on the Web page where fans can pre-order the band's highly anticipated seventh album and pay whatever they choose, including nothing.
 
The British band, which has twice been nominated for a best album Grammy, will sidestep the conventional industry machinery altogether Oct. 10 by releasing the album "In Rainbow" as a digital download with no set price. The album will be available only from the band and at radiohead.com, its official site.

It may sound like a gimmicky promotion, but industry observers Monday framed it in more historical terms: Radiohead, they said, is the right band at the right time to blaze a trail of its own choosing.

"This is all anybody is talking about in the music industry today," said Bertis Downs, the longtime manager of R.E.M., the veteran alt-rock band that was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year. "This is the sort of model that people have been talking about doing, but this is the first time an act of this stature has stepped up and done it. . . . They were a band that could go off the grid, and they did it."

Another high-profile manager said he was still trying to process the boldness of the Radiohead venture. "My head is spinning, honestly," said Kelly Curtis, who represents Seattle-based Pearl Jam. "It's very cool and very inspiring, really."

Radiohead is hardly abandoning the idea of making money.

Its website will also sell a deluxe edition of "In Rainbow" that comes with versions in three formats (CD, vinyl and download) along with eight bonus songs and a lavish hardcover book with lyrics, photos and a slipcase. That package costs 40 British pounds (about $82).

In the coming weeks, Courtyard Management, which represents the band, will reportedly negotiate with labels about a conventional release for "In Rainbow" that would put it on store shelves in 2008. Sources with the band acknowledge that the major labels may balk at the notion of releasing an album that has been available free for months. Still, previous Radiohead albums collectively sell about 300,000 copies a year, according to Nielsen SoundScan, so "In Rainbow" should still have value at the cash register.

"Only a band in Radiohead's position could pull a trick like this," is how Pitchforkmedia.com summed it up Monday. That's because the band became a free agent after its contract with music giant EMI expired with its most recent album, "Hail to the Thief" in 2003. That set the stage for a one-band revolution, even if the five members don't see it that way themselves.

"It's more of an experiment. The band is not fighting for the sake of the fight or trying to lead a revolution," said their spokesman, Steve Martin of New York publicity firm Nasty Little Man. The group declined to comment Monday.

Radiohead isn't the only artist taking bold steps to keep pace with the digital age. The firebrand R&B star Prince, for instance, has taken a maverick path by giving copies of one album away as an insert in a major British newspaper or as an extra to anyone who bought a seat on his high-grossing concert tour. Prince took considerable heat from retailers for the newspaper giveaway.

Then there's the business model of New Orleans' top rapper, Lil Wayne, who made dozens of tracks available free via the Internet to cement his stardom. Even old-school icon Bruce Springsteen seems to see the changing times. He gave away downloads of his new song, the aptly titled "Radio Nowhere."

Geoff Mayfield, the director of charts for Billboard, pointed out that Radiohead was not unique because singer-songwriter Jane Siberry offered a similar optional payment download a few years ago.

Radiohead has sold close to 9 million albums in the U.S., and three of its CDs have debuted in the top 10 on the Billboard album charts. The band has in effect made sure that won't happen with "In Rainbow" by taking its unorthodox approach.

The group has a reputation for daring, which has earned it "relationship fans," core loyalists who skew older, travel to see them play live and urgently seek out the latest release. Those fans, Mayfield said, are not the type to take the new music and leave the Radiohead "tip jar" empty.

"If that loyalty dictates consumer behavior," Mayfield said, "a good number are going to pay what's considered a fair price as opposed to 2 cents."

Several observers said all of that made this experiment far safer than it would be for a pop act that needed a major label to secure radio airplay and television exposure or an up-and-coming rock act that could not fall back on the receipts from sold-out arena shows.

"It's a road act with proven appeal, so as long as they have the right people to take care of touring logistics and the business end of getting music out to market, they might be able to make a go on their own," Mayfield said. "It wouldn't work for everyone. You don't want to be an amateur. We're in a brave new world, but you want to make sure dots connect in terms of getting the music out."

That brave new world is a harsh one for the traditional recording industry. The major labels that enjoyed huge profits in the 1980s as fans replaced their music collections with CDs have suffered over the last decade as a new generation instead plucked its hit songs from the Internet, often without paying for them. There have been steady declines in recent years. As of midyear 2007, CD sales were off 19.3% from the same period in 2006. And there's intense competition now from video games and DVDs.

But even as the old empire collapses, new ideas take hold. Though its cerebral soundscapes are avant art rock, Radiohead's earnest and emotionally plaintive ethos puts it in line with acts such as U2. That's why, according to Wired editor Nancy Miller, all eyes have been on the band at the career and marketplace crossroads.

"We've been waiting for just the right band at just the right moment," Miller said. "Right now is it. Radiohead is the perfect band. After finishing its contract, we expected something revolutionary. I thought they would start their own label. Instead, they have done something more interesting: They decided not to decide."

Some pundits weighed in saying that although Radiohead's move might have been a sharp detour for an established band, it was hardly a path newer acts could follow. Curtis, the Pearl Jam manager, said that years on a major label roster established the Radiohead brand and made it possible for it to buck the system.

"It's the newer bands I really feel sorry for," Curtis said.

Pearl Jam and other groups with intense followings, such as the Dave Matthews Band, R.E.M., Metallica and Nine Inch Nails, will probably learn the most from Radiohead's experience, Curtis said. "Everyone will keep an eye on this because this is the most exciting thing we've seen to this point."

On Monday, Radiohead was trying to deal with that excitement. Intense interest and pre-orders overwhelmed the website, according to Martin, the band spokesman. Wired's Miller, for one, predicted the band's gamble would pay off.

"We've seen the crumbling of bigger labels, but there haven't been any big 'Aha!' moments, that risky departure," Miller said. "It's an interesting move, a terrific example of an artist exerting a terrific amount of control. It's definitely going to be successful."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 02, 2007, 10:42:52 AM
The last year and a half I have steadily been losing interest in movies and music, the two things I cared more about for the last 15 years than anything else in the world, but with there will be blood and In Rainbows coming out, I've gained my interest back. Yesterday, I watched about 20 trailers on Apple.com.          
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 02, 2007, 11:04:03 AM
The last year and a half I have steadily been losing interest in movies and music, the two things I cared more about for the last 15 years than anything else in the world, but with there will be blood and In Rainbows coming out, I've gained my interest back. Yesterday, I watched about 20 trailers on Apple.com.          

i feel exactly the same way.  i think a lot of ppl do.

although i would add heaps more to your list of things that have brought that feeling back. for me it's been the GoMA french new wave screenings, CMBB, bjork coming to my local international music festival (which isn't big enuff to warrant its own thread) in january of next year.. just to name a few. suddenly i CARE again, and all that indie bullshit that the kids have been wanking to, and shitty movies that have come and gone in recent mediocre years, fall into their proper place next to what is actually great.

it's simply not normal to be constantly excited about everything all the time, like silias. in the same way that artists are not normally constantly inspired to record an album or make a movie or write a book or whatever. they have time off, and why shouldn't everyone else? woody allen is proof that things start to mean less when you expect them as part of some routine.

and so i return again to EWS.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: jokerspath on October 02, 2007, 11:06:34 AM
Just curious: I paid 2 pounds for In Rainbows. Has anyone else preordered it? What'd ya pay?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 02, 2007, 11:12:12 AM
how many of you are getting the $82 version and how many of you are getting the FREE one?

after several unsuccessful attempts over the past 2 days, (my credit card kept refusing to charge pounds until i called my bank), i bought the $82 version. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 02, 2007, 11:21:00 AM
This needs to happen more often. Something you want so bad, but seems so far away turns out to be so close, close as in days close. I didn't think we'd get this album till next summer, but then I find out it's coming out in mere days. Anticipation is overrated. This needs to happen more often.

I think I had been trying to latch onto all this new stuff that the kids are into, and it just wasn't doing it for me. It took the old trusty ones who got me here in the first place for my interest to gain steam again. The sad thing is, the more time passes, the less these trusty ones will mean to the younger kids.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: matt35mm on October 02, 2007, 01:40:18 PM
Just curious: I paid 2 pounds for In Rainbows. Has anyone else preordered it? What'd ya pay?

7 pounds plus the 45 pence debit charge came to just over $15 for me.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Neil on October 03, 2007, 10:48:55 AM
82 dollars...the most i've paid for music in some time...I love this band.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 03, 2007, 11:24:35 AM
The last year and a half I have steadily been losing interest in movies and music, the two things I cared more about for the last 15 years than anything else in the world, but with there will be blood and In Rainbows coming out, I've gained my interest back. Yesterday, I watched about 20 trailers on Apple.com.          

i feel exactly the same way.  i think a lot of ppl do.

Radiohead's In Rainbows Makes Everything Right With The World, In Bigger Than The Sound
Writer hasn't even heard the album yet, but the anticipation has reawakened his love for all things rock.
By James Montgomery; MTV

On The Record: Radiohead As A Metaphor For My Withering Youth

It is October 1995. Altamonte Springs, Florida. I am making a left turn from state Route 436 onto Interstate 4. In the CD player of my brown Oldsmobile is Radiohead's The Bends. "My Iron Lung" is playing. Suddenly — before I almost T-bone some dude merging in front of me — I have a thought: "This record would sound great in a room with black-light posters!"

It is July 1997. Orlando, Florida. I am lying on the shag-carpeted floor of my friend Mark's apartment. The lights are off and candles are lit. About an hour ago, we bought OK Computer at a Blockbuster Music midnight sale. About 30 minutes ago the air got all foggy and is now about to be punctured by Jonny Greenwood's opening guitar stabs on "Airbag." Over the next 72-odd minutes, I have a series of thoughts, including "The ceiling in here is amazing" and "I'm hungry." Also: "This is the best album I've ever heard."

Over the next three years, I am obsessed with Radiohead. I buy "7 Television Commercials," "Meeting People Is Easy" and several "Fitter Happier" posters for my college apartment. I snap up both the Airbag/How Am I Driving? and No Surprises/Running From Demons EPs, despite the fact that they have essentially the same track listing. (I even call the infamous "011-44-1426-148550" number on the front of Airbag and leave Thom Yorke several incoherent, rambling voice messages.) I play the sh-- out of Zero 7's "Climbing Up the Walls" remix and spend hours weaving my way through the terrifying cavern of whitespace that was Radiohead's Web site, printing out Yorke's scribblings ("If you don't ask me out to dinner, I don't eat," "What a clean city/ I'm kinda sleep ee/ Call an ambulance/ I feel icky") and sticking them on my walls.

Finally, in 2000, things start happening. There are rumors of a new album ... of nine-minute songs and Yorke pulling lyrics out of a hat. Then there are song titles — "Treefingers," "The National Anthem" — to search out on Kazaa and then wait 24 minutes while they download (they are totally not the correct songs either), and iBlips of smoldering mountains to watch. There are demonic bear heads and paintings of glaciers and even more bizarro babbling from Yorke. I am terrified with excitement.

It is October 2, 2000. Los Angeles, California. I am sitting on my friend's couch. The radio is tuned to KROQ, which is about three minutes away from playing Kid A in its entirety. Every morning for the past three months, I have driven past the Capitol Records building and felt a white-hot mix of envy and rage fill up my gut. "They have Kid A in there," I think. "They are the luckiest people on earth."

Then, at precisely midnight, KROQ goes silent. There is the radio-guy voice: "And now ... (And now! And now!) ... Kid A." Then there are the pulsing opening chords of "Everything in Its Right Place" — and we're off. I am covered in goosebumps. No one speaks for the next 50 minutes, the silence of minds completely splattered over the living-room walls.

It is entirely possible that I will never be as excited for an album as I was at that exact moment. When Capitol reps brought Hail to the Thief to the offices of Spin magazine (where I worked in 2003), I remember listening through the closed door of the editor in chief's office. There were no goosebumps or bong-addled declarations. It was just like any other record being toured around by promotion reps: a big deal, certainly — but, well, nothing that I could claim as my own.

This is the peril of working as a music journalist. You lose that sense of excitement. You are sent albums three months before they hit stores, you listen to them on your computer at work ad nauseam, and by the time they're released, you're done with them. You might hear things first, but you no longer get to hear them best.

Of course, it doesn't help that I am 29. Married. I like Wilco and Okkervil River records now, which makes me sort of an old man. Albums don't excite me anymore, because I am jaded. I've always heard something better ... something that reminds me of something else. Nothing is new anymore. This is all sort of a bummer.

But then ... it is September 30, 2007. Brooklyn, New York. I am on the phone with a friend who tells me to check Radiohead.com. They have finished their new album — and it's coming out in 10 days! I hang up the phone and have the following conversation with my wife:

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

We bounce around our apartment for about an hour. Order the deluxe Discbox version of In Rainbows. It costs us about $81, which strangely doesn't seem all that bad. The following day at MTV, people are genuinely buzzing about the band's decision to release the album on their own — and to allow fans to name their price for the download. There is a palpable thrill in springing the news on people ("Dude, you haven't heard?!?") and I cannot tell you how much time I've spent over the past few days talking about just what the album will sound like.

And the thing is, everyone is like this, because no one has heard the record. Blogs have taken to collecting live clips of songs on Rainbows because the thing hasn't leaked yet — and actually might not before it's available for download on October 10. It's a pretty amazing time. A bunch of unflappable pros suddenly becoming, well, flappable superfans.

It's testament enough to Radiohead that they've chosen to turn the industry on its ear by releasing In Rainbows on their own. It's a ballsy gamble that might just change the way established bands do business from here on out. But perhaps an even bigger compliment is that with one move, they've managed to make me — and the majority of music journalists I know — excited again.

I'm fairly sure I won't celebrate the release of Rainbows the way I used to welcome every new Radiohead album (there will be no black lights involved this time around), but I guarantee you that on October 10, my wife and I are gonna download it, geek out and then just listen.

It's something that doesn't happen often enough to me these days, which is a shame. I miss experiencing something like a real fan, at the exact same time other fans are experiencing it. Maybe people will invite their friends over, download it together, experience it all at once. And when was the last time you could say that about an album? Is In Rainbows gonna be any good? Probably. But that's not important. The beauty of it all is that we're all gonna get to find out together. Everything in its right place.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 03, 2007, 11:46:47 AM
The first half of that article gave me goosebumps. I know exactly how the writer feels.

I've been a Radiohead fan since Pablo Honey. The Bends was the album that made me a life long fan and Ok Computer was the album that CHANGED MY LIFE. Kid A was my most anticipated album OF ALL TIME. I was so dissapointed when I heard it. I hated it. I couldn't understand all the praise it was getting. It wasn't until very recently that I have found an appreciation for Radioheads post-Kid A discography. I get it now. I wasn't smart enough before. I am now.

It's so great that this album will not be ruined by critics or other fans. The only thing that can ruin it is it's own hype, and seeing as how we're all pretty familiar with the material already (just not studio versions) it's safe to say it's going to be great.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Neil on October 03, 2007, 12:20:18 PM
The first half of that article gave me goosebumps. I know exactly how the writer feels.

I've been a Radiohead fan since Pablo Honey. The Bends was the album that made me a life long fan and OK Computer was the album that CHANGED MY LIFE. Kid A was my most anticipated album OF ALL TIME. I was so disappointed when I heard it. I hated it. I couldn't understand all the praise it was getting. It wasn't until very recently that I have found an appreciation for Radioheads post-Kid A discography. I get it now. I wasn't smart enough before. I am now.

It's so great that this album will not be ruined by critics or other fans. The only thing that can ruin it is it's own hype, and seeing as how we're all pretty familiar with the material already (just not studio versions) it's safe to say it's going to be great.

Aside from the "down is the new up" disc, i've yet to hear the new material enough to form any sort of opinion on it, so one could only imagine the anticipation i have. After listening to the mp3 you posted, i simply do not know what is in store and couldn't be happier(fitter, more productive).
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 03, 2007, 12:41:59 PM
great article.  who knew, MTV?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 03, 2007, 04:23:06 PM
i guess the 72 mins of OK Computer is a typo. i thought it was more like 51 mins...

and no mention of Amnesiac either.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 04, 2007, 02:17:41 AM
Radiohead Fans, Guided by Conscience (and Budget)
Radiohead is offering downloads of its new CD. Cost? Up to you.
Source: New York Times

“How much are you going to pay?”

For three days that has been the question on the lips — and at the fingertips — of Radiohead fans. After hours of blog and water cooler arguments, some New Yorkers yesterday were finally able to name their price to preorder the band’s new album, “In Rainbows.” At a Manhattan indie record label, one employee decided to pay 14 cents, and another gave $5, said a colleague, Sarah Fields. And Ms. Fields, who works in digital marketing at the label, decided to charge herself $9.

“Radiohead’s been my favorite band since I was 13 years old,” Ms. Fields, 26, said on Tuesday night outside Webster Hall, where she had gone for a concert. “I felt, like, an honor code with them.”

Since Sunday, when this British rock band announced that it would independently release its first studio album since 2003 as a pay-what-you-wish download on Oct. 10, there has been a perfect storm of interest among fans and industry watchers. Online and in record stores, clubs, bars and label and public relations offices, the announcement was hotly debated, a de facto referendum on what to do about illegal file-sharing and the declining music business, spurred by one of rock’s most respected and forward-looking bands.

The consensus online and in the media seemed to be that the band’s maneuver was a game-changing moment in the industry — or, as one commenter on the music blog Stereogum.com put it, “This is absolutely the coolest thing any band has ever done.”

In fact, Radiohead’s move is as much an experiment in consumer behavior and the socially acceptable cost of art as it is a way to distribute records. Each donation is a sort of commentary: on the nature of fandom and band loyalty, on the indier-than-thou current rock scene, and on the worth of buying — not sampling or stealing — new music.

“It could change the feelings about free downloading,” said George Loewenstein, a professor of economics and psychology at Carnegie Mellon University, in Pittsburgh. “If the band is willing to trust you to pay what’s fair, all of a sudden, for the people who have been saying it’s not stealing to download the song for free, it’s much more difficult to rationalize that. I think it may be a brilliant move in that dimension.”

Mr. Loewenstein, whose specialty is behavioral economics and who has studied the relationship between emotions and financial decision-making, added: “It’s almost like supporting a sports team or donating to a political candidate. You’re selling to the world how much you like them by how much you pay.” Most important, he said, “how much you are willing to pay signals something to yourself about who you are: are you exploitative? Are you a tightwad?”

Sarah Lewitinn, 27, a co-founder of the record label Stolen Transmission and a blogger known as Ultragrrrl, was torn. “The fan in me wants to pay $80, but the person that’s paying rent wants to pay $8,” Ms. Lewitinn, a Radiohead devotee, said.

Nathan Kaufman, 25, another Radiohead megafan, said of the plan, “I got geeked about it immediately.” Radiohead posters once covered his college dorm room, and he owns five of the band’s albums, though, he said, he hadn’t paid for any.

But “In Rainbows” will be different. “I would probably pay, depending on the last paycheck, $5 to $8,” he said on Tuesday night, as he and some friends stood outside the Lower East Side club Cake Shop. But when the rest of his group moved inside, Mr. Kaufman, an actor, admitted that he would be more likely to pony up about $2. “I wouldn’t take it for free,” he said. “It’s symbolic.”

Like Mr. Kaufman, who said his donation would be the equivalent of “cheering loud at their concerts,” many other fans seemed to want to reward Radiohead — either for its artistry or its audacity. On Tuesday a representative of the band announced that most people were not only paying, they were also springing for a pricey box set, which includes a second CD, a vinyl LP and a booklet of artwork, for the fixed price of £40, or about $82, including shipping. (Exact sales figures are not yet available.)

Of course, not everyone is feeling so generous. On Tuesday Adam Baruchowitz, 34, a magazine business director, was browsing at Other Music, the downtown Manhattan record store. He said he would pay only $5, partly because he believed that Radiohead already had plenty of money. And Dan Hougland, the store’s floor manager, noted that the band’s sliding-scale plan isn’t without precedent. He compared the band to Wilco, which after being dropped by its label in 2001, released the album “Yankee Hotel Foxtrot” free online.

“I thought this was the British twist: ‘How much are we worth to you?’” Mr. Hougland said.

Though some musicians have already begun to ponder a future of alternative payment plans, experts inside and out of the music industry say they do not believe that Radiohead’s model can work for everyone. For one thing, only established acts with an extremely dedicated fan base could prosper that way, Ms. Lewitinn said. For another, the novelty would wear off quickly.

“It’s cheap to signal what a great person you are by paying $5 for a download,” Mr. Loewenstein said. “But suppose there are 50 albums you want, and each of them are asking you, ‘How much do you want to pay?’ Then it’s gets more expensive to signal to yourself how wonderful you are.”

For now, though, fans seem to be content to show their approval. As Ms. Fields said, “It’s like the best marketing scheme in the world.”
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 04, 2007, 07:03:11 PM
From MTV:

After stunning the music world with their pay-what-you-want download scheme for their upcoming album, In Rainbows, Radiohead are putting the finishing touches on a major-label deal to get the album in stores as well. In an interview with BBC Radio 4, the band's managers said they expect to sign a deal within the week. "We've got about seven days to sort it out. We tend to fly by the seat of our pants," co-manager Chris Hutton said. "The band are incredibly proud of this record and feel that it deserves to be brought into the mass marketplace. That's why we need a record company who have that infrastructure to deliver the CD."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 04, 2007, 09:22:20 PM
That kind of sucks. Why don't they just wait until after the 10th and see what happens?

Now the new record thing kind of sounds like a gimmick to get the people who would download it to end up paying for it since everyone already pre-ordered it and they didn't start saying this till NOW.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: brockly on October 04, 2007, 10:01:57 PM
it was said in the very first article mac posted that they were releasing it on CD next year
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 04, 2007, 10:07:59 PM
it was said in the very first article mac posted that they were releasing it on CD next year

Yeah, but it never said anything about a label. Just about releasing the CD with coverart and an actual disc instead of a download.

I'm cool with it. It just seems kind of crappy that I thought the only way to get it was to get it from them directly. Now it seems it was just a gimmick to get people (like us) who would DL it before we bought it, to pay for downloading it.

Kind of brilliant actually.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 07, 2007, 12:42:42 AM
***did you find you had to register even if you are on the e-mail list and have bought things through waste before?***

Stanley Donwood: Discbox is worth the money
Posted on October 6th, 2007.

In an interview with Stanley Donwood, published by ThisIsLondon.co.uk, he comments on the £40 price tag on the Discbox version of Radiohead’s new album ‘In Rainbows’, which features a download, two CD’s and two 12-inch vinyl records and a lyrics book full of new artwork by Stanley Donwood.
If the download could be a steal, this is a serious financial commitment. Is it worth it?

Stanley Donwood: “It depends how rich you are! If you’re on the dole, of course it’s a hell of a lot of money. But it costs about that much to go to a Premier League football match, and this project has taken an incredible amount of work. It’s been a long journey over 10 months, with the artwork evolving as the music has evolved. And it weighs about half a kilo.”

For In Rainbows he’s been trying a photographic etching technique, putting prints into acid baths with random results. He keeps the finer details close to his chest, and the band refuse to show off the box properly until the release date, but a small picture at www.inrainbows.com shows multicoloured, blocky text contrasting with scratchy grey abstractions. “The finished product is quite a lush thing. It’s the most over-the-top project I’ve done with them.”

He studied Fine Art with Yorke at Exeter, and admits that the friends share a similar bleak worldview. “We shout at the same bits of the news.”

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on October 07, 2007, 11:27:31 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure $84.17 is the most I've ever paid for music as well. But given all of the buzz and how huge a fan I am, it's worthwhile. These guys aren't pumping out records every year. Whatever they release, I always want the limited / box set or whatever they come up with. God, I'm so stoked they included "Open Pick" after it vanished from their tour setlists too. That song is fucking awesome. Can't wait for a tour next year. I'm praying they come back to the northwest again.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 07, 2007, 02:17:45 PM
you also have to consider you're getting the album, then that same album on vinyl, then an ep (which may be full album length), and then vinyl of that ep. buying all of these seperately would prob be around $60, not to mention what sounds like very extensive packaging and shipping included. no telling how much it will cost shipping that across seas.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: pumba on October 09, 2007, 06:15:37 PM
when's this puppy goin live, wouldn't midnight UK time be right around now?
I'm getting all antsy here! :oops:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on October 09, 2007, 08:08:19 PM
THANK YOU FOR ORDERING IN RAINBOWS. THIS IS AN UPDATE.

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HERE IS SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE DOWNLOAD:

THE ALBUM WILL COME AS A 48.4MB ZIP FILE CONTAINING 10 X 160KBPS DRM FREE MP3s.

MOST COMPUTERS NOW HAVE ZIP SOFTWARE AS PART OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM; IF YOUR COMPUTER DOES NOT, YOU NEED TO GET WINZIP OR ZIPIT INSTALLED PRIOR.

YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THEM HERE:

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IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS DOWNLOADING YOUR FILE,  PLEASE CONTACT OUR DOWNLOAD CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM AT
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FUCKING D-DAY!!!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 09, 2007, 08:12:47 PM
10am UK time. In like 7 hours.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 09, 2007, 08:37:52 PM
160KBPS

ay, there's the rub.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 09, 2007, 09:19:16 PM
160KBPS

ay, there's the rub.

Yeah. That sucks. I actually canceled my order for the discbox (not because of the bitrate, but because of the gimmick which I touched on earlier in this thread) so I guess beggars can't be choosers. Still though, it's better than what you get at iTunes or it's at least the same.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 09, 2007, 09:39:57 PM
160KBPS

ay, there's the rub.

Yeah. That sucks. I actually canceled my order for the discbox (not because of the bitrate, but because of the gimmick which I touched on earlier in this thread) so I guess beggars can't be choosers. Still though, it's better than what you get at iTunes or it's at least the same.

there is no cynical gimmick. no one has to pay anything for the music. the front page of radiohead.com says you can only get this music here for now. it does not say forever. the management has made perfectly clear that it will be released in stores probably in January.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: matt35mm on October 10, 2007, 12:44:08 AM
omg i'm listening to it right now


... and there's no one online to geek out with...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on October 10, 2007, 01:05:59 AM
omg i'm listening to it right now


... and there's no one online to geek out with...

Im here.  It's so good!  Not like im surprised, though.  I was expecting something pleasing, and at this point I feel that I like radiohead too much to be able to objectibely judge an album.  I am surprised how guitar driven it is.  The arrangements are fantastic.  It makes me wonder what the recording process was like.  There's a live feel about some of it.  Arpeggi turned out very nicely.  I hope everyone enjoys it as much as I am.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on October 10, 2007, 01:07:09 AM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 10, 2007, 01:13:37 AM
I left my helmet at my girlfriends house!!!! MY MIND IS EXPLODING YOU BITCH!!!!!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: matt35mm on October 10, 2007, 01:17:42 AM
This has to be their most jamming album.  I lost 3 pounds listening to it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 10, 2007, 01:19:33 AM
I had to take off my trousers. I was mad compressed.

The compression is KILLING Bodysnatchers. You can tell it just wants to break out.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: matt35mm on October 10, 2007, 01:23:04 AM
I had to take off my trousers. I was mad compressed.

The compression is KILLING Bodysnatchers. You can tell it just wants to break out.

I had to put my pants on.

It's true that it would be nice if it was less compressed.  Usually I don't care very much, but this album would really use those high highs and low lows.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 10, 2007, 01:25:32 AM
I'm hitting the sack with some headphones.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: jtm on October 10, 2007, 01:48:09 AM
hello to all my old online film friends!

is this album iPod-compatible? mine is not recognizing it.

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: picolas on October 10, 2007, 01:59:40 AM
 :multi: love being in rainbows



nude is my first favourite.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 10, 2007, 02:11:45 AM
It's a beautiful album. On first pass, All I Need is my favorite track. The orchestrations of strings are simply poetic; Faust Arp sounds, dare I say, Beatlesque.



hello to all my old online film friends!

is this album iPod-compatible? mine is not recognizing it.

Tranferred and played fine on my iPod.

Welcome back.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: brockly on October 10, 2007, 02:28:42 AM
just finished my first listen. i feel so dazed/overwhelmed/rainbowy. right now the highlights for me are NUDE, videotape, arpeggi, all i need. starting my second listen now. _|_
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 10, 2007, 07:59:29 AM
It's good.  REALLY good!  After first listen, I have that Amnesiac feel of "it's not legendary but it's still great," though I think that has to do with the fact that I've heard versions of half the songs already, which takes the fun of discovery out of the album.  But I'm happy. 

Jigsaw is the one for me so far.  But the biggest surprise is Reckoner, which is so different from the live Reckoner I've heard that that old Reckoner can't be called Reckoner anymore. 

This is going on repeat at work today. 

I just can't wait for someone here to bash the album.  Then this thread will really get fun.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 10, 2007, 08:57:00 AM
at of all online reviews/reactions i've read, none have bashed it, just said they were expecting the live version of Videotape.

i'm not that familiar with the new live songs.

does Nude have the B-3/glock of the OKC live era - like what is on MPIE? or is it like the new funky bass one?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 10, 2007, 09:29:02 AM
i ordered this a week ago.  got my initial confirmation email but no email letting me know about the download or the download link!  so i paid 82$ for a fucking album i can't listen to with everyone else.  i emailed them about this already and checked my spam folder a million times but no response.  THIS SUCKS. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 10, 2007, 09:31:27 AM
i ordered this a week ago.  got my initial confirmation email but no email letting me know about the download or the download link!  so i paid 82$ for a fucking album i can't listen to with everyone else.  i emailed them about this already and checked my spam folder a million times but no response.  THIS SUCKS. 

It's available everywhere for download. I was looking for the link I used, but it was taken down. I think you can even get it from pitchfork.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 10, 2007, 09:57:39 AM
i only got my e-mail at 8;40 am Central time.

then again, just ordered late monday night.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 10, 2007, 10:48:35 AM
I just can't wait for someone here to bash the album.  Then this thread will really get fun.
at of all online reviews/reactions i've read, none have bashed it, just said they were expecting the live version of Videotape.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7037194.stm

his conclusion sums it up:

Quote
Anyway, my favourite Radiohead album is still Pablo Honey. Get back to your best, boys, and I might be persuaded to give you more than £0.00 next time.


he's a dumb cunt.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 10, 2007, 11:11:04 AM
i wish someone would post blank vids with the studio audio on youtube so i could stream it at work.

just saw this

http://nodatta.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 10, 2007, 11:15:43 AM
I'm glad Phil's back. Wasn't sure if he would be since he seems to have left after OKC. The drums are really great.

Thom wasn't lying when he said it was very minimal. I went to bed last night and listened to the whole thing start to finish, and I must say I was a bit dissapointed. I listened to it again on a LONG drive to work this morning, and as I'm sitting here in my office, I can't seem to get it out of my head. It's a grower for sure, and it's growing very quickly for me. I can't wait to give it another spin when I take my lunch. I may take lunch right NOW because I can't wait.

You can really tell it's compressed big time. It feels like there are sounds that just want to break out, but can't. It's got me excited for the proper release. Smart move.

The songs I was most looking forward to were Videotape, Nude, and Bodysnatchers, and having heard and memorized live versions of all of these songs, I had a preconceived notion of what they would sound like, and aside from Bodysnatchers, I was way off. Videotape especially is very different. Same lyrics, but they took a lighter approach to it than they have in a few live versions I've heard. It's such a beautiful song, but it seems like it would be best suited on a Thom solo record. The tracks I was familiar with will take some getting used to, but I really do like them, they're just very different.

This is the closest to OK Computer (their best album imo) they have ever come. Jigsaw Falling Into Place reminds me of The Tourist. Of course, after it settles in a bit more, I could feel completely different.

It's very, very mellow, and I'm curious to hear what the B-Sides that are coming with the discbox sound like. Maybe it can be viewed as a double album with side A being the more artsy side, and side B being the more rock-n-roll side. One thing that can be said for SURE without debate about Radiohead (and these are few and far between) is that they always leave you wanting more. A double album concept in theory but not really in practice seems unconventional enough for Radiohead to do.

I give it an 8.1 out of 10, but it's climbing rapidly, and may reach 8.2 onwards before I even get a chance to hear it again., and may reach a perfect score by the time I have it settled in, in a few weeks.

Also, I reserve the right to change my opinion on it depending on how I feel after it's settled in, and also depending on what Pitchfork rates it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 10, 2007, 11:19:18 AM
phil's always there, they just heavily altered his sound.

people think the drums on Morning Bell are electronic for example.

while messing with the eq on an SSL recording desk, you can easily change drums to sound like that. add in gates, limiters, etc.

did you not hear Pyramid Song, Dollars and Cents..... :yabbse-grin: ?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 10, 2007, 11:24:08 AM
phil's always there, they just heavily altered his sound.

people think the drums on Morning Bell are electronic for example.

while messing with the eq on an SSL recording desk, you can easily change drums to sound like that. add in gates, limiters, etc.

did you not hear Pyramid Song, Dollars and Cents..... :yabbse-grin: ?

Oh, my bad.


Nerd.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 10, 2007, 11:30:02 AM
Quote
Anyway, my favourite Radiohead album is still Pablo Honey. Get back to your best, boys, and I might be persuaded to give you more than £0.00 next time.


That reminds me of reading somewhere that Bush was interviewed about what kind of music he likes and he said (paraphrasing), "The Beatles.  But the early stuff, not later on when they got weird."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 10, 2007, 11:32:01 AM
phil's always there, they just heavily altered his sound.

people think the drums on Morning Bell are electronic for example.

while messing with the eq on an SSL recording desk, you can easily change drums to sound like that. add in gates, limiters, etc.

did you not hear Pyramid Song, Dollars and Cents..... :yabbse-grin: ?

Oh, my bad.


Nerd.

i'm not certain, but pretty sure. i think a long time ago in Ed's Diary or in a Thom interview he specifically mentioned messing with the drum sound on Morning Bell - or maybe more loosely in the Kid A sessions. they experimented with that with the Airbag drums - Thom wanted it to sound cut up like DJ Shadow or something. it's been a while since i've read that stuff. i would bet Morning Bell is Phil though. he plays it perfectly live.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on October 10, 2007, 11:41:17 AM
i love every single track on this album. it's fucking amazing.

Reckoner is my favorite right now.

god bless this band.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 10, 2007, 11:43:30 AM
Well, DJ Shadow uses percussion better than any live drummer, so you can't hate that. But I really think the percussion on OK Computer was some of the best of the last 10 years. Especially on Airbag, Subteranean HSA, and Electioneering. It's was one of the elements that made OKC an album that not only became one of my all time favorites, but an album that changed my life.

As i've been saying over the years in this very thread, I was turned off by Kid A and didn't come around to it till years later, and I still think Amnesiac is nothing more than the fat from Kid A. I even remember reading that Phil and maybe some other member (Colin or Ed) wanted to go in a more Bends like direction after OKC, but Thom and Jonny wanted to go in a more experimental direction.

I'm happy Phils OLD drumming is back in full swing on In Rainbows.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Neil on October 10, 2007, 12:17:56 PM
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qz82oi

good luck, i'm not sure if it works


shhhh.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 10, 2007, 12:55:37 PM
Well, DJ Shadow uses percussion better than any live drummer, so you can't hate that. But I really think the percussion on OK Computer was some of the best of the last 10 years. Especially on Airbag, Subteranean HSA, and Electioneering. It's was one of the elements that made OKC an album that not only became one of my all time favorites, but an album that changed my life.

oh yeah. sleigh bells and glockenspiel showed up in spades in music after this album.
and the choir synth sound. i remember reading Jonny liked Marvin Gaye's What's Goin On.
Mercy Mercy Me has both of these. i've always assumed that odd choral sound at the end was synth. if those are humans they are quite weird.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on October 10, 2007, 01:03:57 PM
Jigsaw Falling Into Place

so... fucking... good.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: RegularKarate on October 10, 2007, 01:36:52 PM
As much as I wanted to log on here last night while I was first listening to it, I knew my opinion would change after multiple listenings (Kid A started out as a disapointment, then later that same evening was my favorite album ever made).

At first, I got a Sky Blue Sky kind of reaction going, thought it was "okay", but the first big disapointment from the band... on my sixth listen now and I FUCKING LOVE IT!  Totally worth the wait... it makes me want to jump around and cry and sing and fight ghosts. 

Stupid to rank it now, but I DEFINITELY feel it's better than HTTT.

swimming around in nude now.  so great.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 10, 2007, 02:00:51 PM
swimming around in nude now.  so great.

Yes, that's my favorite track this hour.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 10, 2007, 02:05:00 PM
bodysnatchers all the way.  particularly the "lights go out" part.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 10, 2007, 02:25:48 PM
Bodysnatchers is SO 10:47 this morning.   :yabbse-rolleyes:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: bonanzataz on October 10, 2007, 06:04:55 PM
nude was the first standout track for me. i was listening to the album for the first time at 3am last night, lying in bed, falling in and out of sleep, and that track was so haunting and jarring for me, i woke up instantly, finished the album and couldn't fall asleep until 6.

now my favorite is all i need.

i'm using this as temporary album artwork, if anybody wants to take it.

(http://pages.emerson.edu/students/a/andrew_tobia/xixax/inrainbows.jpg)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 10, 2007, 11:25:38 PM
I wonder what the eventual artwork will look like.

HAHA, we still got b-sides to look forward to.

This plan was GENIUS.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on October 10, 2007, 11:49:55 PM
your av is fucking hilarious , sparrow.

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 10, 2007, 11:55:34 PM
your av is fucking hilarious , sparrow.



Yeah it is. I saw it earlier today on some music website (pitchfork? stereogum?). I about died laughing.

Rolling Stone has their review up already. They gave it 4 1/2 out of 5. Not bad at all. I had lost all faith in them when they rated the new Beirut and Fiery Furnaces albums 2 1/2 (basically a 5 out of 10) and called them mediocre while their 2 of my favorite albums of the year. They gained a shred of credibility back.

EDIT: HAHAHA This is the best cover (so far)

(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1121/rainbowvw0.jpg)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Ravi on October 11, 2007, 12:03:17 AM
It's true that it would be nice if it was less compressed.  Usually I don't care very much, but this album would really use those high highs and low lows.

Do you mean they squashed the dynamics?  That's a common problem with CDs these days.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 11, 2007, 12:12:13 AM
(http://www.filmfashion.nl/stills/boogienights3.jpg)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: matt35mm on October 11, 2007, 12:45:23 AM
It's true that it would be nice if it was less compressed.  Usually I don't care very much, but this album would really use those high highs and low lows.

Do you mean they squashed the dynamics?  That's a common problem with CDs these days.

Perhaps.  I am not attuned enough (or my equipment isn't good enough) for me to tell any lack of quality on a CD.  But it's all further, and more noticably, squashed when it's compressed to 160 kbps.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 11, 2007, 01:29:48 AM
Is Radiohead's experiment a profitable one?
Customers have set their own prices for the bands self-released, downloadable album, some less than $10.
By Todd Martens, Los Angeles Times 

LAST week, a federal jury in Minneapolis slapped 30-year-old single mom Jammie Thomas with $222,000 in damages, ruling that she illegally shared music over the Internet. Apparently there wasn't any Radiohead on her hard drive.

Late Tuesday -- at sometime around 10:30 p.m. Pacific -- one of the biggest rock bands in the world unleashed its new album, "In Rainbows," to the Web. Payment was on a purely voluntary basis, as the British band began taking preorders for the album Oct. 1, allowing fans to set the price, or pay nothing at all. Those who preordered were then sent a link to download the album.
 
Chicago-based webzine Pitchforkmedia.com posted a news item that the album was available shortly after midnight. Radiohead's publicist Steve Martin said fans should have received their e-mail based on when orders were placed -- not how much they paid -- but the album was widely available early on, even to those in back of the queue, as almost immediately message boards around the Web lighted up with links to nonofficial sites hosting "In Rainbows."

Unlike the glitches that bogged down the band's website during the first day or two of preorders, there have been no reports of any widespread website failures in downloading the album. Fans seemed instantly thrilled with the more direct guitar sound of the album, and those who weren't took solace in the fact that they set the price.

"This was worth 2.50 pounds" (about $5 U.S.), wrote one poster on the message board for American Public Media's rock 'n' roll talk show "Sound Opinions."

It appears the only losers in this model are old-school retailers. "It's definitely scary for someone like me, who has been making his money off of this business," said Josh Madell, co-owner of New York's Other Music, which does have a download store. "But I also think it's an exciting time . . . . I think it's clear downloading music will be the main way people get their music in the future, but everything else is up in the air."

Britain-based webzine Record of the Day has been conducting a poll to see how much fans paid for the album. Managing director Paul Scaife reports more than 4,000 have voted, and while 5 and 10 British pounds ($10 to $20 U.S.) appear to be the popular price points, more than 2,800 claimed to have paid less than $10.

Courtyard Management, which represents the band, was unavailable for comment, and Martin had no initial sales information. That information has not been submitted to Nielsen SoundScan, so the album will not appear on next week's U.S. pop chart.

But the industry is already abuzz about which other acts will follow Radiohead's move. Nine Inch Nails' Trent Reznor posted on his official site this week that he is a free agent, and many expect him to follow Radiohead's model, based on his recent comments at an Australian concert authorizing fans to "steal" his music. London's Daily Telegraph reported Tuesday that Oasis and Jamiroquai are expected to follow in Radiohead's footsteps.

"We saw this coming a few years back and knew that at some point artists were going to be in a situation where they're running their own record labels," said Flaming Lips manager Scott Booker, a co-owner in the World's Fair management firm and record label. "Whether it's digital or physical releases, artists still need a certain amount of machination to let the world know the release exists. That's kind of what Radiohead is doing, and what NIN is doing. As bands get out of their contracts, chances are they won't be signing to another major."

Indeed, the Flaming Lips have one album left on a contract with Warner Bros., a release Booker says will likely be issued in 2009. And after that?

"In an ideal world," Booker said, "we want a way to have more control and rights over our material, and a healthy relationship with a label like Warners, [which has] our back catalog in perpetuity. We just realize we're in a different position when our next record is finished than when we originally signed. We're open to working with them, but it will be a drastically different deal."

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FIRST IMPRESSION / "In Rainbows"
Radiohead's new album is surprisingly joyful
Radiohead released its new album via the Web on Oct. 10.
By Ann Powers, Los Angeles Times

Pop's latest moon landing happened Tuesday around midnight Pacific time, when the download code for Radiohead's "In Rainbows" hit inboxes around the world. The English band startled the music industry when it announced this release 10 days ago, inspiring much debate about record pricing and the fate of major labels in light of artists taking complete control of their careers. That story is a fascinating one, still unfolding. But there's also the matter of the music itself.

By scheduling a mass download -- really a rolling download, across time zones -- Radiohead has created a communal listening experience like no other in pop history. It typifies the Internet Age, in which people sit in physical isolation, linked through the ether by blogs and message boards. Instant reviews began appearing last night and will flow on through the day as people carve out time for listening. In that spirit, I've documented my own first listening experience, hiccups and all.
 
6:55 a.m.: Radiohead has a way of making me feel inadequate. They're so serious, so progressive, so cool. Do I really get them? I awaken from a dream in which I am onstage but can't remember the words to the song I'm singing. Anxiety! What if this download doesn't work and I'm the only pop snob out there who can't hear "In Rainbows" today? I could just stay in bed . . .

7:20 a.m.: Knowing that the download link for "In Rainbows" is probably sitting in my inbox, I rush my daughter through her toast and chocolate milk and get her into the car seat so Dad can drive her to school. I have to get to that inbox. Art trumps life today.

8:12 a.m.: Inbox open. There's the link. Arrived last night after bedtime. Darn! That means a horde of college kids and child-free media professionals have already had their communal Radiohead experience. Oh well. I'm having the working-mom communal Radiohead experience, I guess. I paste the link into my browser.

8:13 a.m.: Something is happening. Appears to be a download.

8:17 a.m.: Download complete. Wow, that went well. I hardly had time to be tempted to go on a blog search of already-posted reviews.

8:18 a.m.: I open the file. I can see 10 song titles, including "Nude," "Weird Fishes / Arpeggi," "Reckoner" and "Videotape."

8:19 a.m.: Headphones? Computer speakers? Speakers.

[There's a break in the space-time continuum to allow for getting coffee.]

8:28 a.m.: First track: "15 Step." Starts with live drums mixed with a handclap beat and Thom Yorke singing, in a surprisingly soulful voice, "How come I end up where I started?" Valid question, if where he started was in a future-thinking, Prince-inspired R&B band. Jonny Greenwood's letting forth a snaky little chord progression. Hold on. There come the weird sonic effects. One sounds like shuffling cards.

8:31 a.m.: A Jonny Greenwood effects buzz causes one of my speakers to fall off the shelf. Headphones? No, stay with speakers. Churchy organ ends the track.

8:33 a.m.: Second track: "Bodysnatchers." Is this a rewrite of the Beatles' "Within You Without You"? They are having fun here!

8:35 a.m.: Whoa, that echo chamber guitar and Yorke singing "It's the 20th century" sure sounds like U2. But harder-rocking. Not even slightly ponderous. Then, with a shout of "I seen it coming!" they're outta here.

8:37 a.m.: Track 3: "Nude." Surge of strings. Yorke's doing his helium-croon thing. Pretty! I love the way his voice and Greenwood's guitar are interacting on some of these tracks. Their Glimmer Twins-go-to-grad school artistic love affair appears intact.

8:40 a.m: Is that a Theremin or is Thom just really happy to be singing with his band again? The song ends with his falsetto hitting a peaceful, major-scale resolution.

8:42 a.m: Track 4: "Weird Fishes / Arpeggi." More bubbly guitar and two-step-style drumming, like the first track. This one's so palatable, so smooth, so . . . watery.

8:45 a.m.: The waters are getting muddy. Noisy buildup of guitar effects. Yorke: "I get eaten by the world and weird fishes." OK, now we're back in Radiohead world -- bliss and paranoia in equal parts.

8:47 a.m.: Isn't this supposed to be a communal listening experience? I decide to do a quick search on Google Blogs. " 'In Rainbows' is incredible, expansive, a voyage," writes one blogger. Now I feel connected to all the other early adapters. Time for Track 5.

8:52 a.m.: "All I Need." Cello and a trip-hop beat ushers in a fuzzy keyboard riff. Yorke's singing is unusually laid-back, though the lyrics intimate claustrophobia, panic. "I'm an animal trapped in your hot car." It ends with an ascending melody line and York singing, "It's all wrong, it's all right." Is this his idea of a love song?

8:57 a.m.: Track 6: "Faust Arp." Acoustic guitar and hushed, rapid singing evoke Elliott Smith. The strings seem lifted from Nick Drake's great second album, "Bryter Later." Oops, it's over. That was a short one.

8:59 a.m.: Track 7: "Reckoner." With a title like that, I expect a little clatter. The cymbal-driven opening does not disappoint. Yorke comes in at around a minute, gently keening, "You are not to blame . . . we are both to blame." The track surges, lulls, builds itself again in a wash of strings. I sneak a look at Google Blogs. "This is how the soundtrack to porn in the future will be," notes one instant review. OK then!
 
9:07 a.m.: Track 8: "House of Cards." Quiet as it is, this one has a funky undertone. Wait, did Yorke just sing, "I don't wanna be your friend, I just wanna be your lover"? He really has been listening to Prince.

9:08 a.m.: OK, it's becoming a Radiohead song. Greenwood is processing those Nick Drake strings so they sound like they've been recorded inside a space station. A little click in the corner of the mix actually sounds like cards shuffling. Now Yorke seems to be singing, "Denial, denial." Is that a cute little reference to Kurt Cobain? It was the key word in "Smells Like Teen Spirit."

9:11 a.m.: I'm thinking about ghosts now: Elliott Smith, Nick Drake, Kurt Cobain. They're all floating around in Radiohead's air. Maybe "In Rainbows" isn't as sweet and calm a trip as it first seems.

9:13 a.m.: Track 9: "Jigsaw Falling Into Place." Lacy, looping playing by Greenwood returns the band to its "OK Computer" sound. But Yorke's vocal, low in his range, makes me think of Damon Albarn from Blur. He also sounds a little drunk.

9:14 a.m.: Choogling guitar and kick drum move this track. "Dance, dance, dance," Yorke sings. But the track never gets too frantic and concludes neatly. This one could get airplay -- if Radiohead still cared about airplay.

9:19 a.m.: Track 10: "Videotape." It's the final one. I hear they've been playing this one live for a while. Piano-based, solemn, it's presented like a closing theme.

9:21 a.m.: Someone's breathing heavy on this track. Clacking effects and a sparsely repetitive structure make it more like "Kid A" than most of "In Rainbows." The lyrics speak of death: "When I'm at the pearly gates, this'll be on my videotape." A melancholy way to close an album that, in general, is surprisingly joyful.

9:25 a.m.: The listening event of the year has concluded, at least for me, for now. The warm glow of communal music geekiness engulfs me. Time to load the tracks on my MP3 player and live with them for a while. I think "In Rainbows" is going to turn out to be a great album. It's been a great 45 minutes so far.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 11, 2007, 06:33:49 AM
From the Rolling Stone review:

Quote
All of it rocks; none of it sounds like any other band on earth; it delivers an emotional punch that proves all other rock stars owe us an apology.

I wish Rolling Stone still was what it was 30 years ago, because then that statement would have as much weight as it deserves.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 11, 2007, 07:25:43 AM
2 1/2 (basically a 5 out of 10)

yeah, if the original highest score was 5, and they got 2.5, then out of a huge number like TEN it would be 2.5 times 2!

wow, maths is AMAZING!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 11, 2007, 08:45:29 AM
Hey, euros, quids, pounds, dollars, etc. I was just being safe.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 11, 2007, 09:39:25 AM
It's true that it would be nice if it was less compressed.  Usually I don't care very much, but this album would really use those high highs and low lows.

Do you mean they squashed the dynamics?  That's a common problem with CDs these days.

Perhaps.  I am not attuned enough (or my equipment isn't good enough) for me to tell any lack of quality on a CD.  But it's all further, and more noticably, squashed when it's compressed to 160 kbps.

starting with Amnesiac, to me their recordings have sounded very confined and sterile. i'm wondering if part is the 160 with In Rainbows - i've never done much research, i.e. listening to different sound files back to back - or if it's just mastering. also i think a lot of the guitars are recorded directly - meaning no amps or room sound is utilized. i've seen thom a time or two - in pics and in MPIE - tracking his guitars by the recording desk, so this is a viable assumption.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 11, 2007, 11:08:43 AM
Radiohead, Big Enough to Act Like a Baby Band 
By JON PARELES; New York Times

“It is the 21st century,” Thom Yorke sings in “Bodysnatchers” on “In Rainbows,” Radiohead’s new album, and he goes on to add: “I’m alive.” Wrenched way out of context — actually, the song is about a soul trapped within a zombie — that could be Radiohead’s message to the recording companies that it has sidestepped.

Without a label or a fixed price, and not quantifying its sales for pop charts, “In Rainbows” is selling copies, being avidly played and making the world pay attention. That would happen under any circumstances: “In Rainbows” is Radiohead’s first album since 2003, and on first hearings it’s as bitterly magnificent as the band’s best works, with barbed, intricate vamps wrapped around thoughts of death, love, futility, stubbornness and rage.

Many Radiohead fans have been listening to songs from “In Rainbows” for more than a year, since the band road-tested them on a 2006 tour and tolerates live bootlegs. On the album, far from taming the songs in the studio, Radiohead has burrowed into them, adding more moving parts to make them bleaker and jumpier.

But a big part of the initial attention comes from the fact that Radiohead didn’t set a price for downloading “In Rainbows.” Now that it has completed the major-label contract under which it sold millions of albums through EMI, Radiohead has become a cyber-cottage industry — through its merchandising company, W.A.S.T.E., named after Thomas Pynchon’s underground postal system in “The Crying of Lot 49” — and it has customers pounding on its virtual door.

Some preordered the deluxe $80 package of two CDs (including a second album of additional tracks), two vinyl LPs and printed matter due in December. Some ordered the download version — just 10 medium-quality MP3 files without an album-cover image — for as little as a 90-cent credit-card charge, while others paid whatever they considered a fair price for the album. Radiohead isn’t the first former major-label act to let fans decide what to pay; the Canadian songwriter Jane Siberry, who now calls herself Issa, did it years earler. But Radiohead is operating at a different order of magnitude. So many people responded to its quiet Web site announcement and rapidly multiplying word-of-Internet that Radiohead’s server crashed on Oct. 1.

Radiohead’s do-it-yourself, price-it-yourself model recognizes the new digital facts of life. Bluntly, listeners don’t have to pay for recorded music: There are free versions online, as there are already of “In Rainbows,” which was distributed without any attempt to thwart copying. The fact that fans have paid to get “In Rainbows” is a measure of their eagerness to keep Radiohead writing songs. And the deeper underlying reality is that fans have always set the value of music. They are the ones to decide, yes or no, to buy an album, a single or a concert ticket at the available price. Radiohead’s digital-era flexibility allows more supporters to make themselves known.

Radiohead couldn’t be in a better position to market itself online, without middlemen. It has a huge and loyal, if contentious, fan base that has sold out arena concerts for more than a decade. Unlike Prince, who chose to go independent at a much earlier, slower stage of the Internet, Radiohead can count on broadband access from much of the world. And by all anecdotal evidence, Radiohead has an overwhelming proportion of its fans online.

Sometimes it seems that most of the Internet bandwidth not occupied by spam and pornography is filled with bloggers obsessing over Radiohead’s every cryptic lyric and musical aberration — or today complaining that the “In Rainbows” album online is not a full audiophile-quality file, which would be much larger and slower to download. (One frequent suggestion within the music business is to offer low-fi music free or inexpensively and higher-quality versions at full or premium prices, as Radiohead will do with its CD releases of “In Rainbows.” But even at 160 kilobits per second (Kbps), “In Rainbows” is a sonic notch above the standard 128 Kbps iTunes download, and on a portable MP3 player through good earphones, it has plenty of detail.)

In some ways Radiohead now resembles what the music business calls a baby band. The Internet has equated, though not equalized, the least-known bands with the best-known independent ones. Like a zillion hopefuls with MySpace pages, Radiohead records and tours on its own budget and timetable, plays new songs before they’re recorded, lets listeners hear its music with a click or two and sustains itself primarily through performing and direct sales. Of course, for a baby band, that generally means selling enough T-shirts to fill the gas tank in the van to get to the next club gig. Musical skills aside, Radiohead also has considerably more attention, fame and capital.

Clearly, Radiohead has benefited from a decade of EMI’s promotion, publicity and retailing operations. The band’s management has said that when “In Rainbows” is sold in stores, it will be distributed by a record company, which would already have relationships with pressing plants, warehouses and delivery trucks. Radiohead doesn’t seek to reinvent that infrastructure.

Historically, middlemen are expensive. Under typical major-label contracts (which are likely to be different from whatever deal Radiohead makes for “In Rainbows”), musicians have paid handsomely for market access. The luckiest ones receive perhaps 15 percent of what their albums earn after a label’s expenses are recouped — as opposed to the 100 percent of revenues that Radiohead is getting from “In Rainbows” online.

For a successful band a major-label contract also amounts to a kind of forced altruism. Profits from hits support not only fancy offices and executive salaries but also, and crucially, the flops, whether those are lame attempts to copy current radio fodder or a seminal baby band ahead of its time. Before music migrated online, an established band would generally decide that the major labels were the only game in town and use its clout to get a better major-label deal when it had the chance. Now, as contracts expire for well-known bands, they have more options as independents — and for major labels, there will be fewer sure things to subsidize newer acts. To compensate, maybe the newly independent superstars can link to baby-band Web pages or take them on tour as opening acts.

Free from its major-label contract, Radiohead could work on “In Rainbows” without deadlines or other pressures — which, fortunately, didn’t make for happy-go-lucky music. Rhythmic layers crackle and coil, percussion spatters prettiness, and noise sometimes looms from murky corners. Yet “In Rainbows” uses fewer synthetic sounds than Radiohead albums like “Kid A” and “Hail to the Thief.” Much of it comes across as fingers on strings and sticks on drums.

Radiohead has also reclaimed its tunefulness. Its new songs take care to string long-lined melodies across the rigorous counterpoint, whether the band is rocking through “Bodysnatchers” or meshing guitar-picking patterns with hip-hop drums and odd meters in “15 Step” and “Weird Fishes/Arpeggi.” Good old Radiohead malaise fills the songs, as Mr. Yorke moans about writer’s block in “Nude” — “Don’t get any big ideas/They’re not gonna happen” — or takes a grim view of relationships in “House of Cards,” “Jigsaw Falling Into Place” and “All I Need,” in which he intones, “I only stick with you because there are no others.”

He can’t be singing about the old-school music business because with “In Rainbows,” Radiohead has decided to move on.

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In Radiohead Price Plan, Some See a Movement
By JEFF LEEDS; New York Times

LOS ANGELES, Oct. 10 — It was, more or less, an accident.

The chief advisers to Radiohead, the Grammy-winning British rock act behind platinum albums like “OK Computer,” were lounging around, having a “metaphysical” conversation about the value of music in the digital realm, when they struck upon the idea of simply releasing new music online and letting fans settle the matter themselves.

Initially, they viewed it as a way to let fans preview Radiohead’s music without the guidance — or filter — of radio programmers, music critics or other conventional tastemakers.

Instead, when Radiohead quietly divulged plans to let fans name their price for the digital download of its new album, “In Rainbows,” it incited talk of a revolution in the music industry, which has found the digital marketplace to be far less of a cash cow than it once dreamed. Though Radiohead is in a position that can’t easily be replicated — it completed its long-term recording contract with the music giant EMI while retaining a big audience of obsessive fans — its move is being seen as a sign for aspiring 21st-century music stars.

“To put your record out for someone’s individual perceived value is brilliant,” said David Kahne, a longtime music producer who has collaborated with artists like Paul McCartney and Kelly Clarkson. While it presents obvious risks as a business model, he noted: “It’s a spiritual model. That’s what it feels like to me.”

The Radiohead camp has been reluctant to add to the hype surrounding the album, which has been stoked by breathless blog posts and e-mail exchanges for the past week. Bryce Edge, who manages the band with Chris Hufford of Courtyard Management, stressed that the band’s tip-jar-style tactic “is not a prescription for the industry.”

But he acknowledged that it has punctuated a debate about the fair value of music that has accelerated in the last few months. Before Radiohead’s superstar panhandle, Prince offered a free song through Verizon phones (and roughly three million free copies of his new album in a British newspaper). And Trent Reznor of the rock act Nine Inch Nails, which, like Radiohead, is effectively free from a record contract, recently encouraged concertgoers to simply “steal” the band’s new album and “give it to all your friends.”

Radiohead’s move comes just as a federal jury in Minnesota last week decided that a mother found liable for copyright infringement for sharing music online should pay damages amounting to about $9,250 apiece for 24 songs.

Mr. Edge summed up the pricing pandemonium simply: “Digital technology has reintroduced the age of the troubadour. You are worth what people are prepared to give you in the digital age because they can get it for nothing.”

In another departure from convention, the band declined to send out early copies of the music for reviewers and has not settled on a traditional single to push to radio stations. As a result, programmers are improvising. In San Francisco, for instance, the rock station KITS-FM, Live 105, has the entire album on its Web site (live105.com) and will let fans vote to determine which songs merit airplay.

“We just want to be involved in it,” said Dave Numme, the station’s program director. “We just want to reflect what’s going on out there and give our listeners a chance to tell us what they think of it.”

But the band is not departing from convention entirely with the new album. A boxed set that includes various extras is being sold on www.inrainbows.com for a set price of about $80. And Radiohead plans to release “In Rainbows” as an old-fashioned CD no later than January, though it has not determined if it will return to a major label to do so.

Radiohead completed its long-term contract with EMI with 2003’s “Hail to the Thief,” which sold roughly one million copies in the United States. The band will also tour next year.

“The final acid test,” Mr. Edge said, “is come January, when the music has been available. Will there still be sufficient demand for a CD for us to feel that we’ve proved that making music available does not necessarily cannibalize CD sales?”

Various voices in and out of the industry have urged Radiohead to detail its “In Rainbows” sales data, but the band’s managers declined to reveal them in an interview this week. It is not clear that the band will ever disclose how many copies of the digital album it has distributed or the average price paid, though Courtyard has been running an office pool on the results. But Radiohead’s managers did dispute rumors that more people have bought the deluxe boxed set. And they added that most fans who have ordered the download have elected to pay something.

“The majority of the public are really decent human beings who are honest,” Mr. Hufford said.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 11, 2007, 11:27:43 AM
someone with deep iPod/iTunes knowledge please tell me - aren't iTunes mp4's, therefore a different type of sound file compression? if so, how are mp3/mp4 in comparison?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Neil on October 11, 2007, 12:38:32 PM
nude is a track i've been waiting for...mmmmm

how much have they made? did i miss that in any of the articles?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: matt35mm on October 11, 2007, 01:21:02 PM
someone with deep iPod/iTunes knowledge please tell me - aren't iTunes mp4's, therefore a different type of sound file compression? if so, how are mp3/mp4 in comparison?

iTunes uses AAC compression, or m4a, which I guess has also been called mp4.  It is, supposedly, a better compression format than mp3. A 128 kbps m4a, according to Apple, is supposed to be comparable to a 160 or higher kbps mp3.

In my own tests, back when AAC was first introduced, I did find that m4a's were noticably better, just by a little.  The difference was less than, say, Dolby Digital and DTS, because DTS actually utilizes a higher bit rate.

Anyway, I'd call the Radiohead tracks about iTunes quality.  I also do now think that at least a little of what seems to be compression are just the way the tracks were mastered.  Yet, just by the fact that it's at 160 kbps, you know that the CD will have more information, and therefore a better rendered, more faithful sound.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 11, 2007, 01:53:48 PM
how much have they made? did i miss that in any of the articles?

Various voices in and out of the industry have urged Radiohead to detail its “In Rainbows” sales data, but the band’s managers declined to reveal them in an interview this week. It is not clear that the band will ever disclose how many copies of the digital album it has distributed or the average price paid, though Courtyard has been running an office pool on the results. But Radiohead’s managers did dispute rumors that more people have bought the deluxe boxed set. And they added that most fans who have ordered the download have elected to pay something.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 11, 2007, 02:21:32 PM
9.0. And still climbing.

Okay, 9.1,
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 11, 2007, 02:39:17 PM
Exclusive: Radiohead Sell 1.2million Copies Of 'In Rainbows'

Gigwise has learnt that Radiohead have sold an amazing 1.2million copies of their seventh album ‘In Rainbows.’

The band and their long-term management company Courtyard Management have remained tight lipped about the exact sales figures, seemingly in a bid to add to keep a mysterious air around the album.

But speaking to a source close to the band last night, we’ve discovered that the Oxford band have achieved this monumental sales figure.

Even if every person who downloaded the album paid just 10 pence, the band will still rake in a massive £120,000. That figure is likely to be higher, with many speculating the average figure will even out at around the £1 mark.

With growing media hype around the release of ‘In Rainbows’, these unprecedented sales figures look certain to keep on rising. If they finally announce a world tour, audience figures are expected to be higher too.

Thom Yorke and co. will cash in again when the payments clear for the ‘In Rainbows’ box set which are on sale for £40 a go.

As expected, Radiohead are the clear victors of this radical way of releasing their album. Their success should prompt other big names to follow suit.

http://www.gigwise.com/news/37670/exclusive-radiohead-sell-12million-copies-of-in-rainbows

Most awfully "wroten" article I've ever read, but interesting nonetheless.



And heres the 'official' artwork.

(http://www.greenplastic.com/images/radiohead_in_rainbows2.jpg)

(http://www.greenplastic.com/images/radiohead_in_rainbows.jpg)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: pumba on October 11, 2007, 04:03:08 PM
I wonder if any rich assholes paid like 200 bucks for the album, just for shits and giggles?
Nude is SO good.
I haven't really listened to a lot of Bjork but 15 step sounds a bit like her. If Bjork married thom yorke her named would be Bjork yorke? Zing!
Also, does House of Cards remind anyone else of the end of My Morning Jacket's "I will sing you songs"?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on October 11, 2007, 04:16:27 PM
anyone else feels that in rainbows will get jealous if you play any other album?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 11, 2007, 04:39:44 PM
house of cards = space marvin gaye

3 listens, i lurve it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 11, 2007, 05:48:49 PM
anyone else feels that in rainbows will get jealous if you play any other album?

Let's just say that I tried to put Kid A on after Videotape ended for the fifth time today and I just couldn't bring myself to do it. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: bonanzataz on October 11, 2007, 06:19:46 PM

And heres the 'official' artwork.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2181/1545106332_20ef1458ca.jpg?v=0)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2009/1544252513_56aa43ef89.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sunrise on October 11, 2007, 07:32:40 PM
This is their best record...and I think that is Balthazar laying down to die on the cover art!!!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 11, 2007, 08:31:40 PM
any idea what the little W is in the bottom left corner?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 11, 2007, 09:46:48 PM
A Conversation with Jonny Greenwood
Source: gothamist.com

Jonny Greenwood was named the BBC’s composer-in-residence in 2004; during this time he debuted "Popcorn Superhet Receiver", a twenty-minute work for string orchestra inspired, in part, by the phenomenon of white noise and Penderecki’s "Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima". Tickets are on sale for a two-night performance of the composition at The Church of St. John the Apostle in January as part of The Wordless Music Series; works by John Adams and Gavin Bryars will also be performed.

We spoke with Greenwood this morning, which happened to be the same day his side-project – a little band called Radiohead – unveiled their seventh album, In Rainbows, via digital download. It’s being sold online only at the moment and – did you hear – buyers are welcome to pay whatever they want! Hm, good luck with that chaps. Might want to tell your business manager to ease up on the amazing mushrooms he’s been munching.

Parts of Popcorn Superhet Receiver sound cinematic to me; I know you've done the soundtrack for the new PT Anderson film There Will Be Blood. Did you have any visual images in mind when composing Popcorn Superhet Receiver? No, the opposite really. It’s more about radios and radiowaves and hearing music that isn’t there.

Hearing music that isn’t there? Yeah, like the noise from a radio in the background. Or when you hear a popular song that you think you know over the back of a car engine or spilling out of someone’s walkman. So it’s weird that you say that; there was nothing visual to it. That’s interesting.

Where did the title come from? I had a whole page full of radio-related words and a superhet is a kind of radio that seemed to fit with what I was writing.

What kind of radio is a superhet? It’s a short wave receiver. I don’t know how it works or why, I just had it scrawled in my notepad, along with other words like VHS and that kind of thing, you know. Superhet seemed the most suitable.

How have you revised the composition since it premiered in 2005? It was revised for the last performance; I just cut out some of the more obtuse parts of it. Partly because I find it hard to write music that isn’t just in three minute sections. So now I’ve arranged it so hopefully over the whole twelve minutes it’s got some shape to it.

So now it’s twelve minutes as opposed to twenty minutes? Yeah, it’s just a bit shorter. I forget how long it used to be; it was about fifteen minutes I think. Like I said I tried to arrange it so that it’s set as one thing flowing into another instead of different sections stuck together, which is how it began really. The new arrangement is just a way to try and do something on a larger scale that goes on for longer but still has a structure that holds your interest and hopefully takes you somewhere.

Is it exciting or nerve-wracking for you to sit in the audience and hear your music performed as opposed to being on-stage? Yeah, you feel very self-conscious even though nobody’s watching you. It’s sort of a personal thing and it’s quite odd to involve all these people. It’s quite embarrassing for me. I don’t know. But it’s such a magical moment when orchestras start up; when you’ve got silence in the room, with instruments making a sound together. It’s magical for me. So I just get excited about that really and try to ignore everything else.

There is a lot of tension and drama in this piece yet you seem, in public at least, to be rather serene. Is making music therapeutic for you? I don’t know, maybe that’s true. Maybe people writing lighter music are very angry, violent people. I don’t know, that’s interesting. Maybe Burt Bacharach writes stuff and then fights. I don’t know. For me it just feels like the orchestra is making sounds I really want to hear. That’s all I’m thinking about really. It’s such an amazing thing; I’m still a bit in awe of what orchestras can do and how much of an event it is. And then when they’re playing in a room… You can forget and think that CDs are enough and you sort of don’t need to see an orchestra play. But then once you’re actually at the performance you realize it’s so much more magical than a recording.

I agree; the vibrations that come out of an orchestra are very palpable. Right, you think recordings are so good now but they don’t touch you in the same way as all those wooden boxes with the strings strung across them being played by musicians. It’s just incredible, really.

So today’s a big day? Yeah, big day today. It’s the launch. Like a ship.

Seems to be going flawlessly. At least for me, it downloaded very quickly. Yeah, I know, we’re all quietly surprised because it’s mostly done all on our own back with a small group of people.

I’ve been able to listen to the album twice this morning. All I can say at this point is WOW. Oh great! A good wow, I hope. We’re just really, really relieved that it’s out, and people are hearing what we’ve been listening to for so long.

What’s motivating the band to distribute the album this way? Just getting it out quickly. It was kind of an experiment as well; we were just doing it for ourselves and that was all. People are making a big thing about it being against the industry or trying to change things for people but it’s really not what motivated us to do it. It’s more about feeling like it was right for us and feeling bored of what we were doing before.

Why give people the option to pay whatever they want? It’s just interesting to make people pause for even a few seconds and think about what music is worth now. I thought it was an interesting thing to ask people to do and compare it to whatever else in their lives they value or don’t value.

Have you gotten any figures of how much people are choosing to pay? No we get the numbers tomorrow supposedly. Yeah, I don’t know. The more exciting thing for me is just hearing it on the radio today and knowing it’s landed on everybody’s desk at the same time. That’s what’s exciting. But yeah, I’m sure our manager will have some idea soon.

How did the process of making In Rainbows differ from Hail to the Thief? It was more like earlier Kid A stuff, more based in studio experiments and trying out ideas and spending quite a long time. That’s what we did with Kid A and Amnesiac.

What song on the album proved most difficult to finish? Even ones that we finished quickly we spent a long time deciding if they were good enough. None of them were easy, actually. Reckoner kind of came together quickly.

Back to the impending PT Anderson soundtrack, it features another composition called Smear. Did you compose that at the same time as Popcorn Superhet Receiver? No, that was a couple years ago, that was the first thing I wrote for orchestra. I wrote it for the London Sinfonietta and ondes Martenot, an early electronic instrument. It’s like a nine-minute piece. I’m really fond of it because I’m really fond of the instruments themselves.

You won the Listeners’ Award at the 2006 BBC British Composer Awards for Popcorn Superhet Receiver and part of that was a commission to write a new piece. Have you started working on that? No, it makes me sweat every time I think about it. I must start that soon. Yeah, it’s a little bit daunting. I don’t know. I’m not one to sit at an empty table waiting for inspiration or something. I had an idea for Popcorn Superhet Receiver about radio frequencies and I wanted to try an orchestra and I was wondering what you could do with strings. So I kind of jumped at the chance to do it. I don’t know if it’s what I want to do [with the next one]. So yes, thanks for reminding me, I must start something soon on that.

Did your experience as composer in residence serve as extra motivation to compose Popcorn Superhet Receiver or was work already underway on that? No, that was finished completely. I love the orchestra and their patience and they’re up for trying new things. They’re kind of waiting for the next piece so, yeah, there’s a few things I’ve got to get started.

Are you going to be in New York for the performances in January? I’d love to but I can’t really justify the flight just to come to that. I’d feel a bit weird about it. If I was in America already for touring or something I’d love to go but I can’t really justify it. It’s a shame.

Have you been trying to reduce your use of air travel because of carbon emissions? Yeah, that’s basically why. It’s difficult because we want to travel and tour and do musical things and we’re just looking at ways of doing it without going to the other extreme. It’d be crazy to not tour for that reason but it’d also be crazy to tour in too greedy a way. So we’re just working on the balance for it. And I can’t really justify going to New York just for my own sort of thing.

Are you working out plans to tour in America at this point? We’re talking about touring somewhere in the world next year. Now that the album’s out that’s what we’re talking about. I hope you’ll get to see some good shows.

Have you considered doing some sort of carbon-offset thing with touring? We’ve heard bad things about that. I’m not sure that that’s enough; to buy off our guilt with money. That might not be the best way to do it. We’re kind of looking at a few other ideas. It’s interesting; we’ve had a report done on touring and how much pollution gets created and what would be the most efficient way to do it: playing small venues or big venues, playing venues inside a city or outside a city, playing a big venue and having lots of people drive a long way to get to see you or whether it’s better for us to travel to different places. There are a lot of things to balance out. Whether it’s better to play a festival. So we’ve got to factor that in as well.

Is it better to play a festival? Depends which festival, depends on where it is. It gets kind of complicated. You have to compromise something or don’t play at all. I’m sure we’ll end up doing something wrong, that’s just how it is. It’s not going to be perfect by any means. And it’s still got to be a good show and be in a venue people can enjoy and get to; that’s probably half of it. It’s not just about us feeling smug that we’ve done exactly right in how we’ve planned the tour.

Yeah, it sounds very complex! Yeah, really complex. Interesting but very complex.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 11, 2007, 11:02:21 PM
any idea what the little W is in the bottom left corner?

waste products?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 12, 2007, 12:39:15 AM
Radiohead Fans Feel Duped By In Rainbows' Poor Sound Quality, Possible Ulterior Motives
Statements from band's management seem to indicate that downloadable album was just promotional tool for physical CD.
By James Montgomery; MTV

When Radiohead announced last week that they would be releasing their seventh album, In Rainbows, via their official Web site, there was much fanfare and some honest-to-goodness debate about the future of the music industry, the validity of major labels and just how people consume music.

But in the days since that announcement, a whole lot of that fanfare has curdled, thanks to moves by the band and its management that some see as dishonest, distasteful and, well, downright un-Radiohead. The sentiment among many fans seems to have gone from admiration for the group's willingness to let the consumer decide how much to pay for the new album to anger over the low quality of the downloads — and dismay over the band's manager's statement that the you-choose-the-price downloads were just a promotional tool for the release of the physical CD.

The first bone of contention arose October 9 — the day before Rainbows became available for download — when fans who ordered the album (either in its download-only form or as a deluxe, $81 "discbox" version) received an e-mail from Radiohead's official online store, announcing that "the album [would] come as a 48.4 MB ZIP file containing 10 x 160 [kilobits per second], DRM-free MP3s."

To the casual music listener, the e-mail would be little more than an order confirmation (if not, you know, totally confusing), but to a segment of Radiohead's fanbase — aand to anyone who frequents file-sharing sites — it was a call to arms for two reasons.

First and foremost, all of Radiohead's previous albums were already available as MP3s encoded at 320 kilobits per second — the highest-possible compression rate in the format (though still not nearing the quality of a compact disc) — and most file-sharers scoff at anything less than 192 kbps. (MP3 files encoded with a lower bit rate will generally play back at a lower quality — something not readily apparent on tiny iPod earbuds but obvious enough on high-end home stereos.)

Second, most took issue with when Radiohead chose to announce that In Rainbows would be available at 160 kbps — after the majority of their fans had already paid for the download. To be fair, however, the band did give potential customers the power of choosing how much they wanted to pay to download the album. It could be had for as little as the transaction fee of 45 pence, or roughly 92 cents. There was also an option on the Web site to cancel orders; though, given the timing of the bit-rate announcement, fans had less than 24 hours to do so.

"Most promo MP3s come at a higher bit rate," wrote the author of U.K. blog Kids Pushing Kids. "Worst pound and pence I've ever spent."

"Radiohead has such delicate music that requires detail and depth of sound. ... I for one CAN tell the difference between 160 and 192," responded one commenter. "[With] 160 you can't hear the finer details that make Radiohead so great. I have lost a bit of respect for Radiohead for this. I would never make people pay for 160. They may as well just stream stuff off MySpace."

No one seemed to understand why Radiohead decided to release Rainbows at 160 kpbs, though guitarist Jonny Greenwood told Rolling Stone, "We talked about it and we just wanted to make it a bit better than iTunes, which it is, so that's kind of good enough, really. It's never going to be CD-quality, because that's what a CD does."

That explanation didn't fly with some fans, who began speculating that the decision was made to keep the album off P2P sites or as a subtle way of making fans purchase either the discbox or the physical release of the album next year. The thought behind this theory was that if Radiohead fans were willing to split hairs over something as seemingly inconsequential as kilobits per second, then surely they wouldn't mind shelling out cash for the actual CD version of Rainbows.

And, as it turns out, the latter speculation seems to be true — especially after comments made by the band's managers, Chris Hufford and Bryce Edge, began to make their way around the Internet on Thursday (October 11) — which brings us to bone of contention number three.

In an interview with U.K. trade publication Music Week, Hufford and Bryce spoke at length about the downloadable version of Rainbows and how it plays into the larger plan of releasing a physical copy of the album in stores next year.

"In November we have to start with the mass-market plans and get them under way," Hufford told the magazine.

"If we didn't believe that when people hear the music they will want to buy the CD, then we wouldn't do what we are doing," Edge said.

To many, those comments sounded strangely, well, capitalistic and seemed to confirm that the lower-quality downloadable version of the album was little more than a promotional tool for the actual CD. (It didn't help that Edge is quoted as saying that "CDs are a fantastic bit of kit. ... You can't listen to a Radiohead record on MP3 and hear the detail; it's impossible.") And if that was the case, it probably would've been nice if the band — or its management — had let fans know before they paid (or, you know, didn't pay) to download it. Attempts to contact Edge for clarification on his comments were unsuccessful at press time.

Is this entire backlash really just glorified nitpicking, or do members of Radiohead Nation have a legitimate reason to think they were duped? Well, the answer in both cases is probably "yes."

On one hand, the main reason so many are upset (the 160 kbps thing) seems rather inconsequential, especially given the fact that most people downloading Rainbows are going to be listening to it on their computers or a portable MP3 player. But there is a slightly noticeable difference between a 160 kbps-encoded song and, say, one encoded at 320 (it's heard most easily when played on a stereo). And Radiohead have yet to really offer up any plausible explanation for why they even chose to go the 160 route, especially since their entire catalog is already available at 320.

Furthermore, had the band announced the sound quality before people paid for the record — and if its managers had made the download sound like nothing more than a glorified demo a few days earlier — would 1.2 million people (as is being reported) still have made the decision to download it on the day it was released? Well, probably not. But really, who knows?

In the end, it's really all about a series of intangibles — kilobits per second, fan loyalty, etc. — that makes it difficult to tell if Radiohead fans are upset because of a whole bunch of miscommunication, or if there was some less-than-honest business being done by a band not exactly known for being cold and calculating. Then again, it's also entirely possible that Thom Yorke and company tried to do something different with Rainbows, and as is the case with being first, they might not have gotten it right.

"I paid zero, nothing, nada for the album," one fan wrote on an epic Stereogum thread about the album. "Sounds like Radiohead. But 160 kbps, that's not good enough. They are actually forcing us to buy the CD when it comes out."

"Do not buy the record then. Was that not the point? Don't go around complaining like they did you a disservice by making an album available," another countered. "As if you wouldn't have downloaded the leak. Would you complain if you got the album for free and actually listened to the music instead of focusing on 160 kbps? Maybe you'd actually remember what music appreciation was and be forced to buy the album based on that notion instead."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 12, 2007, 12:55:37 AM
this is a really complex issue.

first of all, it's no coincidence that a lot of you are noticing the bitrate problem. unless you buy all your music on CD, or you have a hearing problem, if you can't tell the difference between 160kbps and 192 then you're really not a fan of music. it is instantly noticeable on a stereo, in a car, even on the not-that-great speakers and sub i use for my computer. also on good headphones.

i don't use itunes cos i don't have/want/need a mac or an ipod, so i'm not sure if they're saying that itunes offers their songs at a lower quality than that. is it only samples they're talking about, or the shit you pay for? cos you really shouldn't pay for such mediocre quality. they're right about might as well putting it on myspace.

it sounds like a brilliant ploy, like stefen said way earlier when he realised ppl were basically duped to pay for what they were going to steal anyway, at a shittier rate to almost GUARANTEE that many of them would end up buying the CD. fuck it, i'll just steal the better version when it comes out. this is almost as bad as when the unmastered HTTT leaked. remember how they were mad about that? yeah, now they just did it to themselves. and that's what really hurts.

i still haven't heard the album.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Ravi on October 12, 2007, 01:03:09 AM
If the downloads were truly intended to be the product itself and not a promotion for the CD or LP, they could have offered the songs in the lossless FLAC format.

I can't bring myself to pay for mp3s.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on October 12, 2007, 01:05:42 AM
Did it to themselves kind of makes it sound brilliant. Like, "you fuckers keep stealing our shit early and downloading it for free, so here, cat's out of the bag... and it's worse than normal download quality. So next time learn to be patient and wait for the fucking cd." Or something like that.

It could be a very complex morality lesson.

At any rate, doesn't iTunes give us our music at 128kbps??? I can't hear any "bad" sound quality with the version I downloaded (for free, from Pirate Bay), but I always planned on buying the cd anyway, as I do for all albums by bands I like. Plus, I think my ears are fucked. I remember with early mp3's I could hear the tinny sounding drums or high end guitar stuff, but I never hear those imperfections with my ipod stuff.

Dunno...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 12, 2007, 01:06:13 AM
Matt explained the iTunes thing pretty good earlier. The 160kbps is better than iTunes, but barely. You can definetely tell the difference, and some songs sound very "caved in" and I can GUARANTEE that is because of the quality.

Yeah, it was a gimmick from day one. I'm glad I canceled my discbox order when I did (you can't cancel them now), but like I said before, beggars can't be choosers. The fact that Radiohead tricked all the indie net kids who steal music into paying for it was pretty genius and you can't hate on that especially since most of these kids deserved to get checked and wrecked.

Still an AMAZING album and I'm getting VERY close to giving it a perfect score. Quite possibly the only thing holding me back is the small bit of me that hates myself for falling for the gimmick.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on October 12, 2007, 01:35:00 AM
these last pages of the thread are a soap opera.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 12, 2007, 01:50:19 AM
mexican telenovela
mexican telly savalas
mix sick and tel aviv alice.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: picolas on October 12, 2007, 04:34:35 AM
non-perfect review

Radiohead, for a new age
Instead of the hard edits and mysterious electronics of former days, the band moves closer to the indie-rock norm with its new pay-what-you-want, downloadable album
ROBERT EVERETT-GREEN
October 11, 2007
IN RAINBOWS

***(/****)

If the medium is the message, this collection of 10 new songs may have had its biggest effect even before I and millions of others began downloading it from the album website yesterday morning. For its first original release in four years, Radiohead stepped clear around the usual retail delivery options, opting to let fans have the digital tracks for any price they chose.

The experiment may show the recording industry as we know it to be a House of Cards, though the track bearing that title on In Rainbows is a love song. (The band has, in fact, retained some control over product and pricing: A "discbox" set, including the music on CD and vinyl, with lyrics, artwork and additional songs goes for a set price of about $80.) In Rainbows reveals the English band entering its middle age, in method as well as in attitude. The sense of standing apart, both from others and from the sounds other bands make, is still there. So is the pervasive feeling that you must move into shadow to show yourself fully, and that even the most glittering and beautiful reality can be seen only against darkness.

But there is less unease, and fewer surprises, on this disc than on any previous Radiohead album. The band's five members have 11 kids between them, and have said the pressure-cooker methods that produced Hail to the Thief four years ago could not be sustained. There's a more relaxed approach here, with fewer instances of sounds being edited beyond recognition and more of a live-from-the-floor feeling.

Instead of the hard edits and mysterious electronics of former days, the band has moved closer to the indie-rock norm of riding the groove and building on it. There's more plain-vanilla guitar and less audio magic (in other words, less Jonny Greenwood), though the band's taste for subtly archaic melodies and destabilizing rhythms has not weakened.

Parts of Weird Fishes Arpeggi sound like studies for a Steve Reich exercise in pattern shifting, though the song is really one long sunrise, as Thom Yorke sings "I'd be crazy not to follow where you lead" (try to imagine that line on OK Computer). 15 Step builds itself up from a five-count beat, before veering close to a Latin jazz feeling when the guitar joins in.

Nude, a track familiar from the band's last concert tour, sounds a familiar Radiohead theme of losses not regained ("now that you've found it, it's gone"), and Videotape, which might plausibly have fit on Yorke's solo debut last year, is a memento mori, complete with devil.

But there are several songs of love and attachment here, even if the lazy, wary beat of All I Need gives the devotion a mournful flavour. The prominent strings that soften several tracks may appeal to those who have found Radiohead too prickly for their taste.

That's both the plus and the minus of this album. In Rainbows is less demanding and may have a wider reach than discs such as Kid A and Amnesiac, but it also takes the world's most interesting band a step closer to the indie mainstream from which it has rigorously stayed away.

In case you're wondering, I paid about $10 (reckoned in British pounds) for my digital version of In Rainbows. That's less that some new CDs, but quite a bit more than Radiohead would normally get from an album saleafter the record label took its cut.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 12, 2007, 07:45:23 AM
i still say no gimmick.
i buy cd's and vinyl, not iTunes or mp3's.
all i care is that i heard some new Radiohead songs.
i gladly await my discbox.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Gamblour. on October 12, 2007, 04:57:31 PM
any idea what the little W is in the bottom left corner?

waste products?
It's a hail to the thief, dubya, of course.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pedro on October 12, 2007, 05:40:29 PM
this is almost as bad as when the unmastered HTTT leaked. remember how they were mad about that? yeah, now they just did it to themselves. and that's what really hurts.

This is not even close to the abominable sound of the unmastered HTTT!  But I understand your apprehension about downloading the record, considering your more audiophilistic tendencies.  (I made up a word)  There's some noticeable compression on a few tracks, but the album still sounds great.  I've listened to it on a good pair of headphones many times and I still have enjoyed the familiar experience of noticing a new part of the mix with every listen.  Just download it already!  I'm saddened that you haven't experienced it yet.  I might be totally understating the degredation of the audio track from the master tapes to the mp3, but to me it just seems trivial to let it stop you from diving into the music.  It's not like the compression changed the chord progressions.  I'm just curious as to what you think of the album.

Where's Jeremy Blackman?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 12, 2007, 06:18:37 PM
Yeah, the quality isn't bad enough to not download it, it's just that in the day of oink, where quality is assured, it has made us all spoiled.

The album is EXCELLENT. I'm surprised it isn't very political (it doesn't seem to be AT ALL) it's just a collection of 8 really beautiful songs, and 2 rocking tracks. It's definetely my favorite of the year so far.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 12, 2007, 10:49:41 PM
i haven't listened to the early HTTT leak in awhile. i do remember liking the bits that were cut out in the final version - Myxomatosis had some great extra drum fills i think. i loved the ad libs in Punch Up that ended up cut. i think the Gloaming was longer too.

anywho, the sound of IR seemed really abrasive to me, but after listening through it probably at least 6 times completely i quite like it now.

it may go to number 2 behind OKC for me.
then again, i have not listened to The Bends in quite some time.

i'm thinking it will definitely be up there with the holy trinity (OKC, bends, Kid A), above the very good, but poorly sequenced or too long (Amnesiac, HTTT) and then a 1,000 years later, poor pablo...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 12, 2007, 10:53:38 PM
Pablo Honey isn't as bad of an album if you don't look at it as a Radiohead album. It's got some good songs on it and some really good b-sides.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sigur Rós on October 13, 2007, 12:13:01 AM
Pablo Honey isn't as bad of an album if you don't look at it as a Radiohead album. 

Haha what a stupid thing to say....
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: I Love a Magician on October 13, 2007, 12:21:55 AM
why's that
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 13, 2007, 12:49:36 AM
Pablo Honey isn't as bad of an album if you don't look at it as a Radiohead album. 

Haha what a stupid thing to say....

Shup. It's a FUN album by one of the greatest bands in history. It's the Money Talks of albums.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 13, 2007, 06:39:53 AM
I'm just curious as to what you think of the album.

heard it now. once track by track and another time straight through without breaks. hadn't heard any of the tracks prior to this.

ten tracks isn't enuff. 4mins per track isn't enuff. perfection isn't enuff. a review isn't enuff. i owe them 42 minutes of unparalleled aural pleasure. Jigsaw Falling Into Place is the birth of consciousness itself.

this is the year xixax was made for.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 13, 2007, 01:42:51 PM
Spellbound in a Radiohead prism
'In Rainbows' captures the wide spectrum of pop and a digital format provokes the ultimate listening experience.
By Ann Powers, Los Angeles Times

The first time I listened to Radiohead's "In Rainbows," I loved it, no holds barred. Joy warmed my ears as the album's 10 songs poured forth from a freshly unzipped download; this music was as intricate and challenging as one would expect from rock's most risk-taking band, but it had soul and a kind of sweetness that made its complexities accessible. That last quality made me grateful too. Like all those other online scribes who apologized for only listening once or twice before jumping into this unprecedented moment of collective listener response, I had an easier time because Radiohead had gone pop this time.

When I listened again, it was just for myself. The urge to begin fitting "In Rainbows" into my personal pantheon had me making connections to U2, Prince and Elliott Smith. One track (the explosive "Bodysnatchers") even made me shout, "Pearl Jam!" The third time, I was taking a walk, and my feet focused on drummer Phil Selway's skittish rhythms, interlacing programmed beats.
 
Next, I started pondering singer Thom Yorke's lyrics, feeling gossipy about the references to sex, a topic he hasn't often explored. Fifth and sixth listens had me back at my computer, checking out what others were starting to say. That bummed me out. I started second-guessing myself. So I put my headphones on, lay on the floor, and listened again.

A day and a half into my life with "In Rainbows," I offer this self-absorbed account to make a point about what else Radiohead gave its fans by distributing the album in a mass download. I'm still processing this album, and I'm not alone. Instead of being able to present a solidified opinion before the album became widely available, critics like myself have had to show our doubts, our impulsive judgments and our willingness to admit that we might change our minds.

And that's not the only way the communal reception of "In Rainbows" challenges the way popular assessments form around pop albums. With no videos, personality-driven magazine spreads or even sanctioned cover art available to help determine this album's meaning, "In Rainbows" has turned listeners back toward merely listening -- a skill that's fairly imperiled in this age of multimedia super-hype.

Devotees did know, in part, what "In Rainbows" would bring. A track listing surfaced when the band announced the album, and it was full of titles familiar from recent bootleg live recordings. It may be more correct to call "In Rainbows" an edition, rather than a definitive album; these studio versions sometimes differ significantly from their earlier counterparts, and it's possible that Radiohead will redraw these maps another time. There's really no guarantee, in fact, that the album won't change by the time it becomes a physical CD release next year.

Whether we hear a different "In Rainbows in the future, the one available now occupies an important spot in Radiohead's development. It heals a rift, that may not have needed mending, between the band's emotive rock pronouncement and its heady art-music experiments. There's no reason Radiohead couldn't have continued straddling both paths, alternative soaring ballads with electronics-heavy sonic abstractions. Instead, the songs on "In Rainbows" incorporate both approaches: they're tuneful, with satisfying hooks, but the instrumentation is very deep and subtle, with each listen revealing new layers of sound and implied meaning.

It's possible to view "In Rainbows" as an album that's actually about listening: about what stories we buy into when we give in to the allure of a pop song. The music's welcoming quality, the pleasure its thick beauty provides, becomes more enigmatic once Yorke's lyrics start revealing themselves. Evoking the moment of death or the moment of seduction, his drifting narratives lead down dangerous paths. Guitarist-effects man Jonny Greenwood's trademark sonic tweaks, along with Selway's dynamic percussion, complicate the arrangements; "In Rainbows" is almost always pretty, but it's never vacant.

Yorke uses the music's come-hither qualities to get more personal than usual. He's always been fascinated with the loneliness of the alienated soul; now that soul has a human body, and it's often in trouble.

The easy groove that carries forward "House of Cards" imitates the drift into sexual betrayal that the lyrics describe; the song that follows, "Jigsaw Falling Into Place," captures a more frenetic flirtation -- the experience of taking Ecstasy, maybe, or just giving in to the bright pull of a risky night on the town. "Reckoner," which is a new version of an older, more violent song, turns mortality itself into a siren, as Yorke's disco-soul falsetto draws listeners into "the ripples on a black shore."

And then there's "Videotape," a live favorite in which Yorke, at the piano, gently describes his own death and the personal legacy he hopes his loved ones can preserve. On "In Rainbows," the song unfolds without elaboration, until a clattering rhythm begins to invade it, as if to suggest that every elegy is a fiction, fighting off the noisy, ugly facts of a normal life.

These songs aren't epics; they don't aim for the sky. They engage with the beats, grooves and hooks of conventional rock and soul, gently expanding or complicating these building blocks until they become prismatic. (Thus the title -- hate to be obvious, but the metaphor works.) By making pop that seems to shift its meaning with every playing, Radiohead asks that we take listening in general more seriously. It's a cause worth taking up.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 14, 2007, 11:06:18 AM
Radiohead giveaway unsettles an industry in flux

Radiohead shocked the music industry last week when they gave away their new album for whatever price fans wanted to pay, the latest in a series of radical experiments by leading artists.

The hit British art-rockers offered their seventh studio album, In Rainbows, for download from their website with fans obliged to pay no more than a small administration fee for the 10 tracks.

In so doing, they followed in the footsteps of US pop idol Prince, who distributed his album free with a British newspaper earlier this year, and the event foreshadows a similar giveaway by 1990s British rockers The Charlatans.

The decision by Radiohead, one of the biggest and most critically-acclaimed bands in the world, has ignited a debate about the pricing of albums and the future of record labels.

"If an established act was going to do something like this, it was going to be somebody like Radiohead because they have a reputation of not playing by the rules and setting their own agenda," said Martin Williams, acting editor of British music magazine Music Week.

Radiohead's contract with major record label EMI has expired, giving the band complete freedom over their artistic direction and commercial strategy.

The name-your-price strategy "does bring the question of whether it will have any implications for other artists," added Williams.

"If Radiohead is able to allow the fan to set the price, does it impact the way a consumer views the perceived value of other, less well-known artists?" he added.

The biggest losers if the idea catches on would be record companies, which are already struggling to cope with a fall in revenues caused by illegal downloading.

Worldwide sales of recorded music have fallen about 20 percent since 2000, according to figures from the industry organisation IFPI, and the collapse of CD sales has scrambled relationships between talent, labels and concert promoters.

The manager of The Charlatans, Alan McGee, best known as the man who discovered global stars Oasis, appeared on BBC radio recently advocating "killing the record companies."

The Charlatans have signed a deal with British music radio station Xfm allowing fans to download their new single on October 22 and then their album from the website of the station.

One of the reactions of record companies to declining sales of music has been to negotiate contracts with artists that include revenues from merchanising and live performances.

These new contracts, dubbed "360 degree" deals, include all aspects of a musicians' careers.

"We try our best to get a share of non-record revenues when we sign a new artist," said the head of Vivendi, Jean-Bernard Levy, last month.

Vivendi is the parent group of the biggest record company in the world, Universal.

He estimated that hardcopy records could soon represent less than 50 percent of Universal sales.

But there is no guarantee that new 360-degree deals are a panacea for record companies, with new competitors looking to steal some of their traditional business.

According to the Wall Street Journal, global megastar Madonna is to leave her long-time record company Warner in favour of a 360-degree contract with her concert organiser Live Nation, worth 120 million dollars (85 million euros) over 10 years.

What is clear is that the music industry is in flux, with digitial technology profoundly changing the way in which artists distribute their music and manage their careers.

For Radiohead, behind the experiment there perhaps lies a shrewd commercial strategy.

As well as the download, fans were offered a more orthodoxly priced hard copy version of the new album, which includes CD and vinyl versions of the album plus photos and other material.

It was available for 40 pounds (57 euros, 81 dollars).

"I think they will have a ball with the box set at 40 pounds," one industry insider told AFP. "It's a very interesting experiment that might tell us that the physical premium product still makes sense. How ironic."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 14, 2007, 12:20:35 PM
Does anyone here read or post on the atease message boards? I stick to the off-topic music forum, but I've been checking out the radiohead forum and people there are really upset at this album. People seem to hate it.

It seems to be torn between the people who wanted another Kid A and the people who wanted another OK Computer. It seems the OKC kids won, but the Kid A kids are meaner.

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Gamblour. on October 14, 2007, 01:16:29 PM
That's dumb. How bout people wish for a new Radiohead album instead? Because it's good. Even songs I don't like on the album I find loving at various times.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 14, 2007, 02:02:28 PM
That's dumb. How bout people wish for a new Radiohead album instead? Because it's good. Even songs I don't like on the album I find loving at various times.

Yeah, I think that's the beauty of the new album. A new favorite every day.

I can't wait for the b-sides. It's going to be like a whole new album.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on October 14, 2007, 07:12:59 PM
i still haven't heard the album.

classic pubrick by the way.

ten tracks isn't enuff. 4mins per track isn't enuff. perfection isn't enuff. a review isn't enuff. i owe them 42 minutes of unparalleled aural pleasure. Jigsaw Falling Into Place is the birth of consciousness itself.

this is the year xixax was made for.

here here by the way.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on October 15, 2007, 02:12:35 AM
I've probably listened to this album 10ish times now. Someone said that next to Ok Computer, if that was your favorite Radiohead album, this might be #2 in my book. Thats a tough call. Kid A is pretty fucking amazing. I can't wait for a tour next year. More than just the east coast and California hopefully. Anyway, if you put each track in a room by itself, I'm loving them in this order.

1. Bodysnatchers (Right around 2:10 this song takes off and it's just crazy good. This will end up being a music video.)
2. Jigsaws Falling into Place
3. Reckoner (I was pissed off that they didn't record the original version of this song but the substitute is beautiful.)
4. All I Need
5. Weird Fishes/Arpeggi
6. 15 Step
7. Nude (I wish this was closer to the version they played live several years running before this album.)
8. Videotape
9. Faust Arp
10. House of Cards
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 15, 2007, 09:41:02 AM
9.3 on Pfork. (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/46356-in-rainbows)

my fav tracks to least:

1. Bodysnatchers
2. 15 Step
3. Reckoner
4. Jigsaw Falling Into Place
5. Videotape
6. Faust Arp
7. Weird Fishes/Arpeggi
8. Nude
9. All I Need
10. House Of Cards
and
I can't wait for the b-sides. It's going to be like a whole new album.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 15, 2007, 10:06:44 AM
playing it to death. HTTT survived with only one casualty (myxomatosis).

bodysnatchers will be this album's myxomatosis.

if the above rankings are anything to go by, it's also this album's clockwork orange.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 15, 2007, 10:32:43 AM
Mod's ranking is pretty much my own except I would switch Jigsaw with Nude and then Jigsaw with Faust Arp.

Can't really take much stock into what P4K says. Their reviews are usually awful and extremely trendy, but their news is top knotch. Has anyone re-read their Kid A review? It might be the most poorly written review I've ever read. The only time Pitchfork matters is when they drop the 10 hammer, because that's kind of a big deal.

It's just a really beautiful album. They aern't pushing the envelope or really doing anything different, it's just a collection of 10 beautiful songs. I do feel 15 Step, Bodysnatchers, & Jigsaw are out of place on this album, but they are great songs nonetheless so it fits in that way. I put it up there on the second tier with The Bends, and Kid A, but not on the top tier with OKC, but definetely above the third tier with Amnesiac, HTTT, and Pablo Honey. It stands up there with some of their best work.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on October 15, 2007, 11:25:38 AM
Where did all this contempt for HTTT come from? Where's this crazy unevenness that I keep hearing about? In Rainbows is in a 5-way tie for second place, with Pablo Honey at the rock bottom third spot, imo.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 15, 2007, 11:31:43 AM
HTTT kind of sucks. It's what Coldplay would sound like trying to make Kid A. It's got some good songs, but overall it's pretty disposable.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on October 15, 2007, 12:12:40 PM
I'm pretty annoyed that they strip down and sterilize some of their live songs. Hail to the Thief had some of THE best tracks played live I've ever heard from Radiohead. Shame that they toned down something like There, There. They did the same thing with Jigsaws Falling into Place on this album. It's still a great song, but the live version is just so much better.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/16654550/radioheads_in_rainbows_trackbytrack_preview/9

How the fuck do you not record a version much closer to the live track above? (Audio version)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 15, 2007, 12:19:24 PM
Where did all this contempt for HTTT come from?

No one is allowed to like more than 5 Radiohead albums at a time.  Period.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 15, 2007, 03:58:00 PM
How the fuck do you not record a version much closer to the live track above? (Audio version)

what the hell? the audio version is almost exactly the same as the one on the album, apart from some different shit in the beginning and around the "dance dance dance" fade. what you want is LIVE album, with that kind of energy to 11 feel throughout the whole song. that's the main difference between live and album, and that's what kind of killed Punch Up at a Wedding and to a lesser extent Where I End and You Begin on HTTT.

1. OKC, HTTT.
2. ka, amn, tb.
100. ph.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 15, 2007, 04:08:20 PM
HTTT on the top tier?!!

I bet you wear briefs over your dinner slacks, and missionary is your preferred method of sexual penetration.

EXPLAIN YOURSELF.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on October 15, 2007, 04:12:56 PM
i think i agree with that list except that i don't hate PH as much as pubrick does. even if OK Computer is obviously the "best", i think HTTT is probably my favorite. it was the perfect culmination of everything that had come before it, the experimental stuff and thematic content, everything. i even love Myxomatosis.

but In Rainbows is still the only music i listen to.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 15, 2007, 04:16:14 PM
HTTT was boring, drawn out, and at times, completely silly. It has some good songs, but the best songs on it don't even compare to the worst songs on OKC and The Bends. Those two are the gold standards.

But alas, opinions are like everyones 2nd favorite Radiohead album. Everyone has the wrong one.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 15, 2007, 04:36:25 PM
i know it's useless to argue about opinions, especially when i don't hav the time to justify them fully (which i think i can do pretty well), also it's way harder to justify music than movies., IMO! HAHA. but here i go anyway..

for reference, (so) = since okc


HTTT was boring, drawn out, and at times, completely silly.

not at all, it's still the album i listen to the most (so). the best songs on HTTT rival their best work (so). it's also the most thematically coherent and RICH work they've done (so). that last claim requires further justification that i don't have time to get into until november, but maybe picolas and hedwig can vouch that i hav good reasons.

one thing is certain, there is no way bodysnatchers is the best track on this new one. that sums up our difference i guess, and your leniency on PH. you yearn for the fabled "old days".
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 15, 2007, 05:15:18 PM
That doesn't explain how the bends is on your second tier. At least put it right below the first tier, but right above the second tier. Put the bends on the bend.

All these douches that showed up (so) (noone here of course) don't give the proper respect to the bends. They treat it like Beverly Hills 90210. Yeah, it's nothing now, but gotdamnit! it was groundbreaking at the time! Have some respect with your shitty haircut!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: brockly on October 15, 2007, 07:15:04 PM
amnesiac is my fav :oops:. every other post-bends album belongs on the second tier for me. they all take me to different places, its hard to pick favourites. the bends has some really good songs and shit but i always felt it had way too much filler eg. high and dry, bones, black star, bullet proof. those are good songs and all (well.. not dry) but they are clearly weaker moments on the album. compared to their later albums where there are no weak moments.

while everyone is ranking rainbows...

1. jigsaw
2. all i need
3. nude
4. reckoner
5. videotape
6. arpeggi
7. 15 step
8. faust arp
9. bodysnatchers
10. house of cards
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: picolas on October 15, 2007, 07:21:45 PM
i tried ranking but it felt wrong. reckoner was #1, though. at the time.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: jtm on October 15, 2007, 10:33:32 PM
hello to all my old online film friends!

is this album iPod-compatible? mine is not recognizing it.

Tranferred and played fine on my iPod.

Welcome back.

shit! i forgot i even posted this question until today.

anyways, it was my stupid iPod that was wigging out. after a restart, all is well... but still, it doesn't surprise me that macguffin is the one who helped me out. you still the man mac!

i love the new album! i dig the electronic stuff for sure, but its great to see them come out with a (for the most part) "guitar driven" album. i was starting to think they gave up on that. if i had to do a ranking (which you all seem to love) i'd rank it under kid a and just under ok comp. my fave song (which changes daily) would be faust arp... gives me the mutha fuckin' chills!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 15, 2007, 11:19:52 PM
haha this is great. it's the bodysnatchers vs the jigsaws. who will win?

I've even embraced "15 Step", which passed the test when I found out it makes great running music.

oh totally, and bodysnatchers is great kidnapping music.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 15, 2007, 11:39:48 PM
Well then start a fucking club.

I must say I don't HATE Jig. I just think it's just on a lower tier. Like the 7th tier. It's not at the bottom! Hey, just think if an airplane hits my tier, at least Jig will make it out and go on to cure cancer, or have children who grow up to be girls who have really hot bods!
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: SoNowThen on October 16, 2007, 12:55:57 AM
That doesn't explain how the bends is on your second tier. At least put it right below the first tier, but right above the second tier. Put the bends on the bend.

All these douches that showed up (so) (noone here of course) don't give the proper respect to the bends. They treat it like Beverly Hills 90210. Yeah, it's nothing now, but gotdamnit! it was groundbreaking at the time! Have some respect with your shitty haircut!

The first albums of theirs that I listened to properly were KA and A, so maybe that disqualifies me totally. At any rate, I didn't have the build up or hype brought on by the brilliant OKC, because I never gave a shit about it until that point. So then I went back and listened to everything. Obviously OKC is the best, but I instantly loved TB, and still kept my love of KA and A (totally even, imo, and I never understand why A always gets classed below KA). So HTTT was the only album of theirs I sorta had hype for... but still, remembering I came on board after OKC, I wasn't playing any guessing games, I was just waiting for solid music which I knew they would deliver. Sure, HTTT has some songs that I would single out to play on their own, but they always fit fantastically for me on an album, as an album. And in answer to your earlier post, There There is easily among their best songs. Drunken Punchup is pretty top-tier as well, along with Go To Sleep.

Imo, lol, imho, etc etc...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 16, 2007, 09:01:25 AM
I can't wait until some of you guys start having kids.

"Come in here and sit down.  I want to play you something.  It's called OK Computer and it's by a band called Radiohead.  It's important that you hear it but whatever you think of it means nothing because I didn't meet your mother until after In Rainbows came out.  Sorry."

"I spent years of my life raising you and this is the thanks I get.  You put Kid A over Amnesiac?!  GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOUSE!"

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 16, 2007, 10:46:25 AM
HTTT is just too damn long and not in a good way.  there are 4 songs i hate, 2 of which are towards the very beginning of the album as to prevent me from listening to it.  i just made an abbreviated tracklist and it goes a little something like this...

1. 2+2=5
2. Backdrifts
3. Go To Sleep
4. Where I End And You Begin
5. We Suck Young Blood
6. There There
7. I Will
8. A Punch Up At The Wedding
9. Scatterbrain
10. A Wolf At The Door

the new album still easily kicks the ass of this one though.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 16, 2007, 11:13:44 AM
Mod and I have pretty much the exact same taste in music. Although I don't get his undying love for Canadian indie bands and I'm sure he doesn't get my love for mid to late 90's underground hip-hop.

I had no hype for OKC. I loved The Bends, but I wasn't counting down the day till OKC was released. I wasn't really into "rock" music then (No Limit Records for the win!) but after I heard it, it changed my life. I remember going to Hastings and renting Con-Air and while I'm waiting for my mom to finish, I notice OKC and decide to buy it. I can honestly say I am who I am because of that album. It sounds far fetched, but it's the absolute truth. The anticipation I had for Kid A was nothing short of ejaculatory, but when I first heard it, I hated it and I hated Amnesiac even more. It wasn't until the last year I came around to both those albums. I'm the guy that only had 5 discs of the 10 disc set of Towering Above The Rest.

HTTT was a redemption album for me, and it fell flat. Maybe I'll come around to it eventually like I did with Kid A and Amnesiac. I wasn't smart enough to get those albums. Maybe the same can be said about HTTT. My intelligence is weak.

In Rainbows has taken it full circle. It combines the good pre-Kid A stuff with the good post-OKC stuff. It's absolutely perfect.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 16, 2007, 11:26:55 AM
HTTT is just too damn long and not in a good way.  there are 4 songs i hate, 2 of which are towards the very beginning of the album as to prevent me from listening to it.  i just made an abbreviated tracklist and it goes a little something like this...

1. 2+2=5
2. Backdrifts
3. Go To Sleep
4. Where I End And You Begin
5. We Suck Young Blood
6. There There
7. I Will
8. A Punch Up At The Wedding
9. Scatterbrain
10. A Wolf At The Door

the new album still easily kicks the ass of this one though.

no myxo?
that's the braviest track, most sonically adventurous and my fav.
I will/punch/scatter......that's too soft together.........throw ol Myxo in there.........right after I Will and it will rip your ears off.......... :yabbse-grin:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on October 16, 2007, 12:30:24 PM
im in the jigsaw club.  it has become one of my favoites of theirs.

does it kind of bug anyone that the transitions in between each song were done knowing it was gonna be a downloaded album?  meaning songs just end and never fade into the next.  to me, the only one that hurts is the last two tracks.  jigsaw needed to fade into videotape.  something about that transition is off to me. 

oh, and it needed EXACTLY two more songs somewhere in the mix.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Myxo on October 16, 2007, 02:09:11 PM
what the hell? the audio version is almost exactly the same as the one on the album, apart from some different shit in the beginning and around the "dance dance dance" fade. what you want is LIVE album, with that kind of energy to 11 feel throughout the whole song. that's the main difference between live and album, and that's what kind of killed Punch Up at a Wedding and to a lesser extent Where I End and You Begin on HTTT.

1. OKC, HTTT.
2. ka, amn, tb.
100. ph.

Actually, you're probably right. Having only released one live album, I really crave some of their songs with the energy level they're known for in concert. I'm a huge huge Radiohead fan. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely enjoy the recorded stuff. But they are an example of a band who I personally feel are much better on tour than they are on albums. I can name quite a few bands where the opposite is true.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 16, 2007, 02:19:03 PM
But they are an example of a band who I personally feel are much better on tour than they are on albums. I can name quite a few bands where the opposite is true.
IF this is true, its only true of their more recent albums (esp Kid A and Amnesiac) where the studio versions are so cold and labored over.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 16, 2007, 03:05:42 PM
HTTT is the best Radiohead album to make love to. Maybe that's why I don't dig it and haven't heard it much.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on October 16, 2007, 03:42:27 PM
I can't wait until some of you guys start having kids.

"Come in here and sit down.  I want to play you something.  It's called OK Computer and it's by a band called Radiohead.  It's important that you hear it but whatever you think of it means nothing because I didn't meet your mother until after In Rainbows came out.  Sorry."

"I spent years of my life raising you and this is the thanks I get.  You put Kid A over Amnesiac?!  GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOUSE!"

haha that's right. and i will name my kids thom, jonny, colin, ed, and phil. regardless of gender. i'll cause each of them deep emotional trauma by singing Go to Sleep as a bedtime song, and wake them at dawn with a morning bell. their bedrooms will have stanley donwood wallpaper and decorated with fake plastic trees. we will live in a glass house.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Sunrise on October 16, 2007, 05:07:54 PM
and i will name my kids thom, jonny, colin, ed, and phil. regardless of gender. i'll cause each of them deep emotional trauma by singing Go to Sleep as a bedtime song, and wake them at dawn with a morning bell. their bedrooms will have stanley donwood wallpaper and decorated with fake plastic trees. we will live in a glass house.

Actually singing Morning Bell to them might provide the most trauma...maybe you can sing that while ringing the bell.

HTTT is the best Radiohead album to make love to. Maybe that's why I don't dig it and haven't heard it much.

...and wtf? I can't figure you out, Stefen.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on October 16, 2007, 05:41:51 PM
I can't wait until some of you guys start having kids.

"Come in here and sit down.  I want to play you something.  It's called OK Computer and it's by a band called Radiohead.  It's important that you hear it but whatever you think of it means nothing because I didn't meet your mother until after In Rainbows came out.  Sorry."

"I spent years of my life raising you and this is the thanks I get.  You put Kid A over Amnesiac?!  GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOUSE!"

haha that's right. and i will name my kids thom, jonny, colin, ed, and phil. regardless of gender. i'll cause each of them deep emotional trauma by singing Go to Sleep as a bedtime song, and wake them at dawn with a morning bell. their bedrooms will have stanley donwood wallpaper and decorated with fake plastic trees. we will live in a glass house.

and if a wolf should arrive at your door, keep your coke babies safe cuz those creep animals are bodysnatchers and they suck young blood.  tell your faithless wonderboys there there, keep 'em high and dry and packed like sardines in a crushed tin box.  make sure to bring out your reckoner to keep count of em and remember that 2 + 2 = 5.  get your knives out and call the karma police.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 16, 2007, 05:46:38 PM
Ok, that's enough.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 16, 2007, 06:21:52 PM
Ok COMPUTER, that's enough.

see, anyone can play guitar this game.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 16, 2007, 06:31:17 PM
YOU can't play the game with an album from your last tier. It's called cheating and it's against the rules.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: 72teeth on October 16, 2007, 08:36:42 PM
yeah. creep.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on October 16, 2007, 10:15:39 PM
yeah. creep.

Game over.

cue the exit music.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on October 16, 2007, 10:40:13 PM
at pubrick's request, here's what i have to say about Hail to the thief.

 stylistically, that album is radiohead's most ambitious, their broadest. kid a might've been the most difficult to achieve but its concept is straight and clear. and because people like cohesive stuff , they put down hail to the thief. it's also the most polychromatic radiohead album, even if the new one's title actually is 'in rainbows'.  the wordplay in the title is a fine indication on what the album's  about. it was and basically still is, the only relevant pop album that talked at its time about the iraq occupation and bush  in a contemporary manner and a bizarre scope. think about how the rest of their catalogue ages and hail to the thief stands like frozen in time, it's different. its like an invitation to get mad about the evil stuff you cannot control.

about in rainbows,   i think it's funny that some of you already knew most of the tracklist , makes me feel irresponsible. but i deliberately avoided listening any new songs  to be amazed by the new recorded stuff (kind of like avoiding the thread and trailers for there will be blood), and amazed i was. stunned, cos most of the album is a side of radiohead everyone took for granted after they made lovely pop songs like high and dry or no suprises. and they're still talking about spooky shit , like flesh eating worms and collapsing infrastructure and a taped death , but it's the romanticist part that i had forgotten about them. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 17, 2007, 11:28:58 AM
the lyrics of HTTT don't really address Iraq very much unless i've missed something.
2+2=5 and Stand Up Sit Down obviously.
now sure We Suck Young Blood is directly about that, but maybe more commercialism/Hollywood. maybe both. oh, i guess Sail to the Moon some too..........and I Will, although that song is from pre-Kid A era - but who knows when Thom finished the lyrics..........ok more than i thought.

i didn't listen to much new stuff either and i'm glad.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Neil on October 17, 2007, 12:06:28 PM
think about how the rest of their catalogue ages and hail to the thief stands like frozen in time, it's different.

brilliant, i couldn't agree with this more, although to me kid a may have came out yesterday, and OK computer, is still "holy shit do the fucking splits" to me, i feel like hail to the thief is actually frozen...i personally love the cd, the gloaming owns, but i agree it's like although i know every song, there is still some foreign aspect to it, i don't know, you're so right, possibly the best description of something radiohead has done that I've ever read

Is com-lag songs that didn't make the cd httt?  If so, then that means that cd spawned one of my favorite songs ever. Gagging order. mmmmm
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 17, 2007, 11:14:21 PM
Radiohead Experiment Proves You Have The Power, In Bigger Than The Sound
Did music fans shoot themselves in the foot with all their online quibbling about In Rainbows?
By James Montgomery; MTV

It's been one week since the world changed. Do you feel any different? Me neither. This is sort of a bummer.

Just in case you weren't aware, it was roughly 185 hours ago that Radiohead nuked the entire record industry with the online release of their In Rainbows album, and strangely, though some predicted that the sun would be shrouded in black dust and the seas would boil, the post-apocalyptic wasteland in which I'm living today doesn't seem any different than the one I was living in last Tuesday (note: this could also be because I live in Brooklyn).

In fact, things are pretty much exactly the same as they were before In Rainbows hit the Net (though I now have a somewhat-underwhelming-yet-really-beautiful-in-parts-and-ultimately-solid new Radiohead album on my iPod). Major labels did not crumble, the Internet did not explode and people still bought the new Kid Rock album. Rainbows didn't sound the death knell of an industry, nor did it herald a bold new era of commerce. It was, for all intents and purposes, just another album.

Of course it seems pretty funny writing all this now. But last week, people were genuinely freaked out by what might happen in Rainbows' wake. The CEO of Terra Firma Capital (the company that now owns EMI, which, in turn, owns Radiohead's former home, Capitol Records) wrote a widely leaked memo that detailed how the company would refocus its "business models" to reflect the post-Rainbows world. After the album was released, I wrote a story about problems fans were having with the audio quality of the download (and possible ulterior motives of the band's management) and received e-mails from employees at both Universal and Warner Music Group telling me how much they enjoyed the article. Clearly, people were paying attention. And they were worried.

But did nothing change in the days since In Rainbows' release? Well, not necessarily. If anything, its reception has shone a big, bright light on two rather interesting aspects about us as "consumers" of music: 1) We've got a rather bizarre sense of entitlement, especially since we usually do nothing to actually deserve said sense; and 2) If given the chance, we will nitpick and complain about anything in the world.

Both points can be rather accurately summed up by our reaction to the news that In Rainbows would be released as MP3s encoded at 160 kilobits per second. For most, the move was greeted with a rather unceremonious "Eh," though to some, it was akin to Hulk Hogan's heel turn at Bash at the Beach '96. Seems that after a decade of telling us to say our prayers and eat our vitamins, Radiohead might have dressed in all black and gone Hollywood on us (note: roughly 78 percent of you have no idea what I'm talking about right now).

After all, 160 kbps was a far cry from 320 kbps — the "industry standard" among file-sharers (though, that idea seems rather ridiculous) — and it seemed like Radiohead duped us all by making the announcement after we had already plunked down money to download the album (even though, you know, a reported one-third of us didn't). We were paying for a lesser-quality version of the album, even though we probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference on our tiny iPod headphones. And this was not right.

That point resonated across blogs and 'boards for days, even managing to somehow drown the actual release of the album (and all the amazing, ballsy aspects that went along with it). The whole thing was a prime example of how, when given the chance, we'll take any opportunity to absolutely bury anyone for anything. Perhaps a commenter on Idolator put it best: "If this thread isn't indicative of the entitlement of early 21st-century culture, I don't know what is."

And it's sort of a shame, because people in the industry — including those major-label bastards in their ivory towers — were watching. And the end result of all our squabbling seems to only reinforce their point of view that every artist needs a major to help guide them. But then again, it's also not, because it also showed those same industry suits just how incredibly pissy and insufferable we can be when we really set our minds to it. We've actually got the power to kill careers if we decide to (see Pitchfork's "chimpanzee peeing in his own mouth" review of Jet's Shine On for further proof of this point). We only need to get our sh-- together long enough to do it.

But of course, all this is entirely debatable. After all, for all our moaning, a reported 1.2 million of us still downloaded In Rainbows, and at an average price of around $8, that means Radiohead made somewhere in the neighborhood of $1 kabillion in roughly 24 hours (I am not good at math). The rich got richer. The machine chugged on. And the rest of us are still sitting here watching a video of a monkey peeing in his mouth.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on October 17, 2007, 11:50:02 PM
another thing i like about in rainbows  is that it has clearly showed how incompetent rock journalism is. it's almost an oxymoron. the best reviews and opinions about the thing, i've read at art-oriented blogs and such. it's cool that everyone still wants to have an opinion about the 'gimmick' , but they should remember to keep their opinions interesting, especially if they're journalists. talking about the album itself every once in a while might be a good start , james montgomery.


this century is doomed.


Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on October 18, 2007, 09:30:49 AM
that article is dumb.  is that by the same guy who wrote the really good one a week ago?  i hate him now.  did anybody expect the record industry to explode last week?  no, except for maybe this idiot.  but really its just the first step towards a bright new future the results of which cannot be determined a week later. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 18, 2007, 10:46:08 AM
lol@I hate him now, but he was cool last week.

I feel the same way. That jergoff.

In retrospect, I couldn't care less what this album does, I don't care if it changes the industry since I don't support major label albums anyways. I only ever pay for indie releases and I steal major label releases from the interwebs. If you want to support an artist on a major label, do it by seeing their shows when they come to town. That helps them ALOT more than buying one of their CD's from Best Buy does.

I hope Radiohead made alot of money off the gimmick. They deserve it for making such beautiful music. I don't care that they tricked us since I didn't fall for it (I figured it out at the last second and, voila, opted out)

After IR settling in, I gotta rate it a solid 9.4. It's not perfect, but it's pretty damn close. It's so short, but I think that helps it. I can't wait for the B-sides so I can have a few more tracks to create my playlist titled OK Computer II.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 18, 2007, 02:50:02 PM
i disagree about the aging sentiment.
OK Computer and to a lesser extent, Kid A, will not age.
The Bends already did the second OKC came out, although i listened to this today and still love it.
Amnesiac and HTTT have a digital sheen/maxed out mastering curse of our current times.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 18, 2007, 03:43:54 PM
Kid A will most definetely age. In 20 years it's going to sound awful. It'll be like hearing that song "Loving you is easy because you're beautiful!" by PTA's babies momma, mama. It'll be all cheesy and people will laugh at all the primitive sounding bleeps and bloops like we do the strings of that song.

 Depeche Mode was doing the same stuff Radiohead was doing in the late 80's and early 90's and people were like "It's so modern!" now you hear the old stuff and cringe.

Of course we'll all want to beat up the kids who bash it and make fun of it and us for being old, but we won't be able to do anything about it since we won't be able to catch them while they're riding on their hoverboards and we're still using our feet since we never bothered to get a license for a hoverboard because we assumed it was a fad that would eventually die out.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 18, 2007, 03:52:29 PM
I don't care that they tricked us since I didn't fall for it (I figured it out at the last second and, voila, opted out)

is that the story now? cos you've been saying that you did fall for it like a chump and that's what kept you from calling it the GOAT.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 18, 2007, 04:15:41 PM
My wanting to label it the GOAT was premature so why don't you STFU?

Naw, I'm over the gimmick. Maybe it wasn't a gimmick and I was just looking for a reason to feel victimized. It wouldn't be the first or the last time I felt that way about one of my favorite bands. I'm insecure? Go fuck yourselves.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: picolas on October 19, 2007, 01:48:55 AM
tour talk

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003660154
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 19, 2007, 08:44:05 AM
the thing with Kid A though is that it sounds very analog. Depeche Mode, though i'm not real familiar with, probably has a very 80's synthisized sound. Abbey Road has synths. Amnesiac and HTTT sound a little more sterilized or something.

i'm subscribed to about 5 Radiohead/In Rainbow threads on different messageboards - one positive thing - someone said the Airbag EP was their favorite Radiohead disc. got that out this morning. forgot how good it was. made me realize they could have had a second album pretty soon after OKC. think of all the tracks you hear on MPIE that just now are being released. i'm sure there are probably unreleased versions of True Love Waits, Big Ideas, Big Boots, Follow Me Around, I Will, Last Flowers and who knows what else from that era. i really wish they had made a soundtrack to MPIE with uncut performances of all the unreleased stuff.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 19, 2007, 12:23:51 PM
In Rainbows is having the same effect on Radiohead fans that 9/11 had on New Yorkers: at first, everyone was nice to each other - being extra courteous, having more positive things to say - but then after a while, shit went back to normal and we realized that we just want everyone else to go fuck themselves.  Just like always. 

Kid A will most definetely age.

Some people said the same about The White Album and Dark Side of the Moon, I bet.

My wanting to label it the GOAT was premature so why don't you STFU?

The truth of it is, there's going to be a lot of this in the coming weeks.  People got sucked up by "the gimmick" (which isn't really a gimmick), coupled with the fact that for the first time in forever, they weren't one step ahead of the band.  There were no leaks, no advance warning, no nothing besides news that they had finished the album, and it was refreshing.  There were such expectations on this album, even before we knew it was coming out, that everyone wanted so much for it to be the best thing ever.  Which it's not, nor does it have to be.  That's not to say it's not great but the thing that listening to it over and over, as well as reading this thread, has done for me is given me the impetus to start listening to Amnesiac and especially HTTT again.  This anti-HTTT talk is crazy talk. 

one of my favorite bands.

A handful of people say this and still seem to dislike more of their music than they like.  We all have songs we skip on albums but never have I come across a Radiohead song that I find truly and completely worthless.  Not even on Pablo.  So what am I missing that's so bad?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on October 19, 2007, 07:31:31 PM
wise words, sparrow. i salute you :salute:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 19, 2007, 09:12:12 PM
You sure looked really far into my tongue in cheek comments.  :yabbse-grin:

It was a joke. Gimmick or not, it doesn't matter to me because I REALLY like the album. It's on my top tier.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 23, 2007, 09:08:15 PM
Radiohead Said to Shun Major Labels in Next Deal
By JEFF LEEDS; New York Times

Radiohead, the British rock band that is regarded as the pre-eminent free agent in the global music business, is close to signing a series of deals to release its next album independently and leave the major record companies behind.

The band, which stunned the industry this month when it let fans set their own price for the digital download of its new album, is close to a deal to release the CD version of the album domestically through a pact with the music complex headed by Coran Capshaw, the impresario best known for guiding the career of the Dave Matthews Band.

The band is expected to market the album internationally through the British label XL Recordings, according to people briefed on the band’s plans.

The independent labels appear poised to win a bidding war for the band’s album that had included suitors like Warner Brothers Records, Columbia Records and, at one point, Starbucks, whose corporate label has signed artists including Paul McCartney.

Under the proposed deal, Radiohead would license the album, “In Rainbows,” for a specified period of time but retain ownership of the recording.

Side One, a fledgling label being spun off from Mr. Capshaw’s management company, Red Light, would release the album domestically in concert with another of Mr. Capshaw’s companies, ATO Records.

The music business had been buzzing with speculation over how the band would release its new album since it fulfilled its long-term contract with the music giant EMI Group with the delivery of its 2003 album, “Hail to the Thief.”

That album has sold roughly a million copies domestically, and the band’s managers have said they viewed the recent name-your-price offer, in part, as a test of whether the availability of cheap (or free) music online would reduce the band’s future CD sales.

Representatives for the band and Red Light declined to comment.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 24, 2007, 11:29:20 AM
ever heard the demo of The Bends?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eS0LNCWKHo

first i've heard it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 25, 2007, 11:14:45 PM
(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33474323.jpg)

Radiohead -- not just music
Now there's also a new book, "Dead Children Playing" (Verso, $15.95), devoted to the visual side of the Radiohead juggernaut.
By Randy Lewis, Los Angeles Times

The one thing that download-happy Radiohead fans didn't get when they pulled the new "In Rainbows" album off the band's website recently was any of the distinctive art work that's been an integral part of the group's aesthetic since the beginning. Anyone who wants that has to pony up roughly $80 for the actual box set, which includes the new songs on CD and LP formats plus artwork from Dr. Tchock, the nom de canvas of Radiohead front man Thom Yorke, and artist Stanley Donwood.

Now there's also a new book, "Dead Children Playing" (Verso, $15.95), devoted to the visual side of the Radiohead juggernaut. Along with reproductions of works that have appeared with every Radiohead album since "The Bends" in 1995, "Dead Children Playing" includes examples of Donwood's other pieces and commentary by the two men, offering illumination into the jagged, icy landscapes they've crafted to accompany the band's atmospheric music.
 
Their work for an expanded edition of 2001's "Amnesiac" brought them a Grammy Award for album packaging and artwork. Images titled "Avert Your Eyes" and "Trade Center" were created around the "Kid A" album in 2000, while "Hole" was something Donwood did for himself after hiking through England and observing a number of circular holes in the landscape.

Donwood also posts many of his works on his website, www.slowlydownward.com/.


(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33340382.jpg)
Stanley Donwood's acrylic, charcoal and paper on canvas "Avert Your Eyes" (2000) can be found in "Dead Children Playing: A Picture Book" by Stanley Donwood and Dr. Tchock, the nom de canvas of Radiohead front man Thom Yorke. The new book is devoted to the visual side of the British rock group Radiohead and features reproductions of the group's album art, other works by Donwood and commentary.


(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33340372.jpg)
Stanley Donwood's "Trade Center." The acrylic, charcoal and blackboard paint on canvas was created around the "Kid A" album in 2000.


(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33470366.jpg)
Stanley Donwood's "War Village" is a personal painting that, Donwood says, recollects the wars in Albania, Serbia and Croatia. "Burnt fields, the ghosts of the slaughtered villagers, the trees witnessing silently all that occurs."


(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33470372.jpg)
Stanley Donwood's "Residential Nemesis." "This was pretty much a direct response to the bombing of a block of residential flats in the former Yugoslavia," he says. "The painting was used in various ways, fairly extensively, for 'Kid A.' "


(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33470377.jpg)
This personal work was created when Donwood thought he hadn't quite finished the "Hail to the Thief" series. "I drew a map of the USA and filled it with the names of the companies invited to tender for contracts for the 'reconstruction' of Iraq, after it had been bombed," he says. "But I got so angry I attacked the canvas with a sort of polluted ice age."


(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33340281.jpg)
Stanley Donwood's "Hole," acrylic on canvas, 2005, was inspired by a hike in England in which he observed a number of circular holes in the landscape.


(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33470478.jpg)
" 'The Minos Walls' are imagined panels from the subterranean labyrinth inhabited by the minotaur, a monster created by gods and men, fed live human flesh, abandoned to its fate," Donwood says. The painting was used for Radiohead's "Amnesiac" album.


(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33470493.jpg)
"London" is part of the series of paintings Donwood did for the Radiohead album "Hail to the Thief." Donwood got maps of cities in the news and filled the real estate with words. "This was before the London bombings, but unfortunately they were kind of horribly inevitable."


(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33470497.jpg)
"Pacific Coast" began as a painting of a hill Donwood saw one evening, but became a map of Santa Monica, filled with words he read and noted down while traveling the roads of Los Angeles. This became the cover for Radiohead's "Hail to the Thief."


(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33470498.jpg)
Stanley Donwood's "Grozny," part of the "Hail to the Thief" series.


(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2007-10/33340274.jpg)
Cover of the book "Dead Children Playing: A Picture Book," by Stanley Donwood and Dr. Tchock.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 26, 2007, 07:53:59 AM
i wonder if this is the kind of thing you'll find at the local Barnes and Noble, or if i'd have to order online.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 26, 2007, 08:15:25 AM
They should do something like with the Kubrick Archives and put a .5 sq. in. segment of the original canvas for the OK Computer cover in each book.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on October 26, 2007, 11:33:10 AM
i wonder if this is the kind of thing you'll find at the local Barnes and Noble, or if i'd have to order online.

Easy to find out with a simple phone call.


And, unless you plan to buy something else through Amazon to get the free shipping, DDD has it:

http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=17763300
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 30, 2007, 10:55:33 PM
has anyone encountered any problems when putting the album onto an audio cd?

i've burnt it twice already to hear it in my car and each time the only tracks that play are 1,3,5,9 (thank god), and 10. the rest are COMPLETELY silent. the same tracks are "missing" when i play the cd on my laptop. basically they don't want to be burned.

sorry to go bigideas on everyone, but.. what the hell?? worst album ever.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on October 30, 2007, 11:40:43 PM
Do you have it stored on an external HD? I was having problems burning it to a cd, but when I copied it to my desktop and burned it from there, it was fine. Give that a try otherwise give up on music and owen wilson yourself.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 31, 2007, 07:39:05 AM
has anyone encountered any problems when putting the album onto an audio cd?

no problem-o
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Gamblour. on October 31, 2007, 09:53:04 AM
The first thing I did was burn it to a CD, worked for me.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on October 31, 2007, 09:58:41 AM
screw it. i guess you get what you pay for.

Give that a try otherwise give up on music and owen wilson yourself.

that's a bit much, i'll just luke wilson myself. i'm gonna sit quietly in the background and occasionally remind ppl i went out with drew barrymore.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Weird. Oh on November 06, 2007, 09:43:59 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8SOC7200&show_article=1


Most Fans Paid $0 for Radiohead Album
    
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Radiohead let its fans decide how much to pay for a digital copy of the band's latest release, "In Rainbows," and more than half of those who downloaded the album chose to pay nothing, according to a study by a consumer research firm.

Some 62 percent of the people who downloaded "In Rainbows" in a four- week period last month opted not to pay the British alt-rockers a cent. But the remaining 38 percent voluntarily paid an average of $6, according to the study by comScore Inc.

Radiohead broke with its past practice of releasing its music in CD format and through a major record label when it released its seventh studio album online itself. The biggest wrinkle was the band's decision to let fans pay as much or as little as they wanted to download a copy.

The results of the study were drawn from data gathered from a few hundred people who are part of comScore's database of 2 million computer users worldwide. The firm, which has permission to monitor the computer users' online behavior, did not provide a margin of error for the study's results.

Between Oct. 1 and Oct. 29, about 1.2 million people visited the Web site the band set up for fans to download the album, comScore said Monday. The research firm did not say how many people in its study actually bought the album.

Among U.S. residents, about 40 percent who downloaded the album paid to do so. Their average payment was $8.05, the firm said.

Some 36 percent of the fans outside the U.S. who downloaded the album opted to pay; on average, those fans paid $4.64, according to the study.

Radiohead's U.S.-based publicist said Tuesday the band had no comment on the study.

The online release sent shock waves through the recording industry, with some hailing it as a shrewd move at a time of declining CD sales industrywide and others writing it off as a publicity stunt that amounted to the band giving away its music.

The band, which also offered fans the option of buying a lavish box set for about $82, plans to release the album in CD format some time next year.



what a misleading headline. What constitute a fan? I heard and read about many people downloading it just for the hell of it, and not because they were necessarily radiohead fans.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 06, 2007, 10:16:15 PM
paste magazine is trying the same kind of thing - you can pick your subscription price, minimum of $1............so i took them up on it.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on November 06, 2007, 11:27:07 PM
Radiohead's Reality: Just Two Out Of Five Listeners Paid For Download
Music-biz professionals suspect band made out well financially — but caution situation was a 'novelty' unlikely to be repeated.
By Gil Kaufman; MTV

The grand Radiohead experiment in letting listeners set their own price for In Rainbows earned the band tons of press and lots of compliments from their peers (and, of course, some criticism over sound quality). By some accounts, more than 1 million people downloaded the album.

But as excited as fans were, less than 40 percent of them actually paid for songs. According to data from comScore, a company that measures consumer activity online, only 38 percent of Radiohead fans ponied up any cash for the download, while a majority paid nothing.

For a band whose audience is notorious for their fierce loyalty and dogged devotion to the group's sometimes cryptic and challenging career path, that's kind of bummer, right? Well, not necessarily.

While Radiohead's U.S. publicist, Steve Martin, declined to respond to the comScore data, explaining that the band "is not going to discuss financials with anyone," and a spokesperson for the band's former label, EMI, also declined comment, we spoke to a number of music-industry professionals, several of whom said there's definitely an upside to the "freeloader" numbers — but noted that the band was one in a few who could benefit from such an arrangement.

"Whatever that 60 percent of people were going to do, they weren't going to buy the Radiohead album anyway," said the manager of several groups who have sold millions of albums on major labels, but who — like most of the people we spoke to for this story — requested anonymity. "Anyone who went to the Radiohead site to get it instead of PirateBay or some other site like that would never buy it, so it's not like they've been CD buyers their whole lives and supporters of Radiohead and decided, 'This week I'm not going to contribute.' Just consider those 60 percent to be gone already — except now Radiohead have their e-mail addresses and they can market to them."

According to the numbers posted on comScore's Web site, during the first 29 days of October, 1.2 million people around the world visited the In Rainbows Web site, with a "significant percentage" ultimately downloading the album. The percentage who downloaded for free in the U.S. was a bit lower (60 percent) than in the rest of the world (64 percent), and comScore found that U.S. consumers were willing to pay a bit more when nobody was looking.

Of those who did pay for the record, the biggest percentage, 17 percent, paid less than $4, and 12 percent paid between $8-$12, comScore reported. Either way you cut it, said the manager (who did not have first-hand knowledge of the specific details of Radiohead's financial dealings), Radiohead likely quadrupled their take on what they would have made had the record been racked in traditional record stores. "Now Radiohead are getting the retail, label cut, distribution and manufacturing margin, as well as the mechanical and artists' royalty. Of that 40 percent, they're getting a much higher figure [from sales] because they're using the Internet and the cost of distribution is so much less.

"It just validated what we already knew: If you give something for free, people will take it for free. That 60 percent acted with logic, while the others acted with emotion and said, 'I don't care that I can get it for free, I will make a donation.' That's illogical," the manager said. "But it's an emotional reaction they're appealing to with their fan base."

The comScore results are not based on numbers provided by the band, but culled from a group of consumers in comScore's worldwide database of 2 million people, who have allowed the company to monitor their online behavior. Senior analyst Andrew Lipsman said the numbers are "very valid," because the few hundred people the company tracked — he would not divulge the exact number for proprietary reasons — could easily be weighted to represent the whole online buying population of In Rainbows.

"Because it's a small sample with a small range of transactions, we're confident the numbers are accurate, and there's a small margin of error, maybe a few cents either way," said Lipsman. The study was not commissioned, but undertaken by comScore due to the intense interest in the album. Lipsman still cautioned not to use the results as a marker for the viability of this model for a number of reasons.

"Because they're the first ones to venture into this, they already have a loyal fanbase and they got the benefit of a marketing bump from the publicity that won't happen with other bands," he said. One very promising footnote to the download figures, he added, is that for every dollar of revenue from album downloads, the band generated two dollars in sales of its $81 special edition box set of In Rainbows, due out later this year.

A major label record executive who also requested anonymity cautioned, like Lipsman, that whatever Radiohead's take, the In Rainbows experiment should likely be looked at as an anomaly, not a new business model. "It was a novelty, and economics dictate that if everyone goes in this direction, it won't have the same impact," the executive said. "Also you have to consider that it was Radiohead, so the more people pile in, the less novelty and less traffic they'll get."

And while Radiohead could count on the millions of fans who have supported their albums and tours for 15 years, the combination of the novelty factor and the high rate of "freeloaders" who took advantage of the set-your-own-price deal paint a somewhat grim picture for less-established bands who might consider going this route — but who have not had the benefit of the promotional push of a label for more than a decade.

"If only 38 percent are paying for Radiohead, who the hell would pay for a band they've never heard of?" wondered another manager who has worked with some of the most popular major-label bands of recent years, and who requested anonymity. "Whether people paid for it or not, the download numbers are high because people wanted to be cool and there was some rubbernecking."

A less optimistic take came from veteran music-business attorney Peter Paterno (Dr. Dre, Metallica), a strong advocate of artists' rights to control the means by which they distribute their music. He said it's hard to tell if the download exercise netted Radiohead a pile of cash or found them running in place. "If your business model is giving away music and selling tickets, maybe this works," he said. "And maybe they have a broader plan to make money. But a band like this would make somewhere around $2 or $2.50 per album, depending on the pricing [with a traditional major label album sold at retail]. So even if they're making four times that amount, but they're only getting one-fourth of the people paying full price, they're in the same place."

Regardless of how many people paid for the download, in the end Radiohead had nothing to lose, financially or otherwise, from their experiment, according to Billboard director of charts and senior analyst Geoff Mayfield. "I think it's one of the most misunderstood stories of the year," he said of the blogosphere blowup about the album possibly signaling the death of major labels. "Radiohead never said they were looking for a new model, all they said was, 'We made a new record, here's how to buy it.' And within a week you knew they were negotiating with major labels. They never said they wouldn't sign another major contract.

"I think we can all assume this is not the whole album, and when it gets released [in stores], I suspect there will be more tracks, or some additional content, and enhanced audio," he continued. "[I'm sure they were thinking] 'There's only so many people who will buy it anyway, so what do we have to lose if some take for nothing?' They don't get your e-mail address when your buddy burns it for you from CD.

"And at the end of the day, I don't know how much they lost by doing it this way. But they gained a significant bargaining chip with labels through the press they got."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on November 06, 2007, 11:44:23 PM
that's an excellent summary of the fallout.

these bits especially:

Quote from: Some anonymous manager
"It just validated what we already knew: If you give something for free, people will take it for free. That 60 percent acted with logic, while the others acted with emotion and said, 'I don't care that I can get it for free, I will make a donation.' That's illogical,"

Quote from: Peter Paterno, whatever that means.
"But a band like this would make somewhere around $2 or $2.50 per album, depending on the pricing [with a traditional major label album sold at retail]. So even if they're making four times that amount, but they're only getting one-fourth of the people paying full price, they're in the same place."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pwaybloe on November 07, 2007, 10:01:13 AM
Well, I fall in the illogical 17%. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on November 07, 2007, 10:14:46 AM
50% of that 60% is probably meatheads who only downloaded it because it was free. They probably were like "Man, I haven't heard of them since the early 90's!" Like the people who showed up to the CMBB screening just because it's a movie that isn't coming out for a few months.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 08, 2007, 09:56:57 AM
Radiohead’s first single from new album ‘In Rainbows’ will be ‘Jigsaw Falling Into Place‘ on January 14. The album however will actually get a physical release on CD and vinyl just before the end of the year.

The album will now be released through XL Recordings on December 31. Meanwhile, the band have distanced themselves from reports that most people who downloaded the record did so for free and took advantage of Radiohead’s offer to let fans name their own price.

“In response to purely speculative figures announced in the press regarding the number of downloads and the price paid for the album, the group’s representatives would like to remind people that, as the album could only be downloaded from the band’s website, it is impossible for outside organisations to have accurate figures on sales,” they explained.

The statement added: “However, they can confirm that the figures quoted by the company comScore Inc are wholly inaccurate and in no way reflect definitive market intelligence or, indeed, the true success of the project.” [source: NME]

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on November 08, 2007, 06:26:07 PM
Radiohead Deny Reports That 60 Percent Of Fans Paid Nothing For In Rainbows
Band sets December 31 for physical release of latest album overseas.
By Gil Kaufman; MTV

The physical version of Radiohead's In Rainbows won't be ready for your holiday stocking, but it will be released this year.

Radiohead announced Thursday (November 8 ) that the vinyl and CD version of their much-vaunted new album will be released internationally December 31. No information was given on whether the physical release will differ from the 10-track download released last month.

The first single from the album is "Jigsaw Falling Into Place," which will be released January 14. Though XL Recordings has been tapped to handle the album outside the U.S., it has not yet been revealed what label will distribute the disc Stateside. The band has reportedly been in talks to release the album in conjunction with ATO, which was co-founded by Dave Matthews, and Side One Recordings. A U.S. spokesperson said there is no information yet on when the album will hit stores in the States or on what label.

In addition to confirming the physical release, the band's statement also dismissed the results of a recent report issued by comScore, a company that measures online consumer activity. The comScore report suggested that 60 percent of fans who downloaded In Rainbows — which the band offered as a "name-your-own-price" product beginning October 10 — paid nothing for the tracks.

In the statement, Radiohead said the comScore data was "wholly inaccurate" and that it "in no way reflected definitive market intelligence or, indeed, the true success of the project," according to a report on BBC News. To date, neither Radiohead nor their U.S. publicist, Steve Martin, have agreed to discuss any of the financial aspects of the download scheme, including how many copies were sold or how much fans paid on average.

Denying that the average non-freeloader fan paid only $6 for the download, as suggested by comScore's report, the group's representatives also stressed in the statement that "as the album could only be downloaded from the band's Web site, it is impossible for outside organizations to have accurate figures on sales."

ComScore senior analyst Andrew Lipsman strongly defended his company's results when asked about the band's claims. "We're confident in our data," he said. "There's a minimal margin of error based on the size of the sample we used and the narrow range of values."

A British spokesperson for Radiohead also told BBC News that the band's figures on download sales are "not for public consumption" as "people were still downloading [the album]."
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on November 08, 2007, 07:16:23 PM
Supposedly the test webcast they did earlier tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgoN4ejNnVg
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pwaybloe on November 09, 2007, 08:15:36 AM
ComScore senior analyst Andrew Lipsman strongly defended his company's results when asked about the band's claims. "We're confident in our data," he said. "There's a minimal margin of error based on the size of the sample we used and the narrow range of values."

This is commonly done in market research.  A sample of users are polled, and an estimated value is taken from that small sample.  I stress the word ESTIMATED, not exact. 
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 09, 2007, 04:18:54 PM
their Seven parody:

(http://cms.pitchforkmedia.com/images/image/41055.Picture1.png)
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on November 10, 2007, 12:21:46 PM
http://www.stereogum.com/archives/video/radioheadtv.html#more

MORE!  AWESOME!  WATCH!

ceremony.  :shock:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on November 10, 2007, 07:31:49 PM
AWESOME.

But man, this really highlights why Youtube was the WORST thing to happen to internet art. The quality is horrible and the audio is all out of sync, might be intentional but the the point still stands, flash is crap.

Imagine back in 1999 and watching the Magnolia trailer on Youtube or google video and the quality is crap and the audio is all out of sync? I wouldn't have watched that trailer over and over again that's for sure. Everything should be done in quicktime.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: picolas on November 11, 2007, 03:04:54 AM
this really highlights why Youtube was the WORST thing to happen to internet art.
no effing way! the out of syncedness is the fault of the uploader and it could've been better quality had it not been so horribly compressed before being uploaded. youtube has allowed countless artists to put stuff out there that wouldn't have been accessable otherwise. or perhaps wouldn't have even existed without it. and maybe a large portion of that stuff is crap but it's still interesting, dammit. i was going to link to a fantastic compilation of youtubers here but the video seems to have been deleted due to use of avro part. i'm now on a mission to find some flv of it somewhere or find the person responsible for it..

EDIT: FOUND IT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M5qk1E-4z4

anyways here's some synced versions:

jigsaw http://youtube.com/watch?v=UKrsBVFsfIQ (i love this so much... it's the most insightful thing they could've ever done about what they feel about the song in a wordless way..)
seven parody http://youtube.com/watch?v=A7MkQJuaOrc
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on November 11, 2007, 03:24:14 AM
jigsaw best track 07 and best video 08 barring any unforeseen kubrick lost tapes.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: brockly on November 11, 2007, 06:22:50 AM
UNRAVEL (http://youtube.com/watch?v=k7h_E58fPmo)

i read a while back that this was thom's favourite song. that made me happy.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on November 11, 2007, 10:49:38 AM
this really highlights why Youtube was the WORST thing to happen to internet art.
no effing way! the out of syncedness is the fault of the uploader and it could've been better quality had it not been so horribly compressed before being uploaded. youtube has allowed countless artists to put stuff out there that wouldn't have been accessable otherwise. or perhaps wouldn't have even existed without it. and maybe a large portion of that stuff is crap but it's still interesting, dammit. i was going to link to a fantastic compilation of youtubers here but the video seems to have been deleted due to use of avro part. i'm now on a mission to find some flv of it somewhere or find the person responsible for it..

EDIT: FOUND IT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M5qk1E-4z4

anyways here's some synced versions:

jigsaw http://youtube.com/watch?v=UKrsBVFsfIQ (i love this so much... it's the most insightful thing they could've ever done about what they feel about the song in a wordless way..)
seven parody http://youtube.com/watch?v=A7MkQJuaOrc


Yeah, I guess you got a point. It is nice to be able to upload anything at any time and do it quickly, but it comes at a cost because the quality is so crap.

That Youtubers video highlights why youtube is great, but for every homemade piece of "art" theres a piece of produced stuff that just looks terrible.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 11, 2007, 07:35:05 PM
I usually post a list when I poke my head back in Xixax, so here's a top five:

1. Weird Fishes/Arpeggi
2. Videotape
3. All I Need
4. Nude
5. 15 Step

This is after weeks of light to heavy listening. Nude was the obvious early favorite, but there's not as much to discover as there is with the other tracks, and the end annoys me now just a little bit. Weird Fishes/Arpeggi is the most fascinating song to me. I had trouble with it at first, and it's really grown on me. I think I appreciated it more after I saw this early performance that Pitchfork plucked from Youtube (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/46272-pitchforks-guide-to-radioheads-in-rainbows). Videotape is just fantastic and requires no explanation. All I Need has the dark/mysterious thing going on with great melodies and a crescendo that works... gives me chills. I took for granted that the opener was going to be great, so I don't have much to say about 15 Step, except that the bits with the kids cheering rocked my socks. I am not at all a fan of Bodysnatchers (can't stand the first two minutes), but I'm willing to give it a second chance at a higher bitrate. I think House of Cards is the weakest track on the album, although it's not a bad song. It just doesn't do much for me anymore.

I first listened to the album late at night (about 3:00 on the night of the release) sitting in a chair in a dark room with my eyes closed. I was very tired, to the point that I was actually drifting in and out of sleep. I'm not sure how that shaped my understanding of the album, but it definitely did something. I was initially disappointed. (Mostly didn't think it was dark enough.) I think I really started getting it on the third or fourth listen, with a nearly full appreciation by the sixth or seventh. I'm fascinated by this phenomenon, because it happened to me with OK Computer (I was a bit musically retarded at the time) and definitely HTTT, which I grew to love. This didn't happen with Amnesiac, probably because it was exactly what I was looking for at the time. Also, I've always seen Amnesiac and Kid A as competitors, which is definitely unhealthy and needs to stop. Someday I'll make a post indulging that, though. So does anyone know why this "growing on you" phenomenon happens so much with Radiohead music? RK, maybe you have some insights, judging by your posts in this thread. It's not the most complex music in the world, and yet this happens over and over again with many different people.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on November 11, 2007, 08:27:01 PM
is there a reason why you talk about every song but don't mention Jigsaw AT ALL?

at least you're not a snatcher.  :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 11, 2007, 09:20:23 PM
is there a reason why you talk about every song but don't mention Jigsaw AT ALL?

I love the song, I just don't have anything important to say about it. Umm... I love the strings toward the end. I also like Reckoner, but I think it's been praised enough.

I definitely can't get in to Bodysnatchers, though. What am I missing? Maybe I'm not missing anything and just refuse to believe that there's a deadweight at the beginning of an otherwise great album.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on November 12, 2007, 04:45:29 PM
Radiohead Sets U.S. Deal For New Album Release
Source: Billboard

As expected, Radiohead has completed a deal with ATO Records Group for the U.S. release of its new album, "In Rainbows." The album, to be released on the TBD Records imprint, will arrive Jan. 1, a day after being issued in the United Kindgdom by XL Recordings.

In recent weeks, ATO quickly emerged as the front-runner and most attractive U.S. home for Radiohead, who recorded for EMI until 2005. Among the draws was the presence of Phil Costello, Capitol's former senior VP of promotion and marketing, who is now at ATO.

And although no official relationship with the band was announced beforehand, ATO has been working the Radiohead tracks "Bodysnatchers" and "Jigsaw Falling Into Place" to U.S. radio for the past couple of weeks.

As for the meaning of TBD Records, a spokesperson says, "we ran into trouble in trying to clear all previously discussed potential label names."

"In Rainbows" was first made available Oct. 10 via Radiohead.com, just 10 days after the band announced the album was complete. Fans were given the option to name their own price for a download of the album, which is also being sold in a deluxe discbox edition with CD and vinyl. That package ships "on or before Dec. 3," according to the site.
 
Radiohead will support "In Rainbows" with world tour dates beginning next spring. The group returned to action with a live Webcast Friday on its site, featuring performances of songs from the new album.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 12, 2007, 05:33:37 PM
i like Bodysnatchers more after seeing the live take on it.

i think the main thing i hate is just the sound of the distorted guitar.

to me, the sound of the instrument can be just as important as the other elements - or how it is recorded more or less.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on November 13, 2007, 11:44:13 AM
All the Radiohead tv - Thumbs Down tracks:

http://sharebee.com/1950643a

Password: nodatta.blogspot.com
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on November 13, 2007, 07:04:45 PM
(http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2007/11/13/rhscreengrab.jpg)

EMI versus Radiohead: a pot of simmering tension at end of In Rainbows
First, competing box-set releases. Now, a mysterious yanked advert. The behind-the-scenes feud between the label and its former charges is bubbling to the surface
Source: Guardian Unlimited

Tension between Radiohead and EMI was highlighted again today when the band's former label removed a misleading ad for the group's back catalogue from the internet.

Until the end of last week, anyone typing in Radiohead into Google would be met with a paid-for ad at the top of the search results reading: "Radiohead - New Album 'Rainbow' now available as boxset".

Despite appearances, the ad led not to the special "discbox" edition of In Rainbows but to a website where EMI subsidiary Parlophone is selling a box-set of the seven albums Radiohead recorded while they were still signed to the label.

That the two box-sets are coming out at the same time in December and at the same price had already led some fans to believe that EMI is trying to compete with its former charges' independent release. While EMI has denied this, the ad (visible in a screengrab from Friday, above) raises new questions about the label's motives.

Attempts to ascertain the identity of the company behind the ad by Guardian Unlimited Music met with little success. Phone calls and emails to EMI's subsidiary Parlophone about the ad were not returned last week. Finally, a cryptic, one-sentence email arrived from EMI publicist Chris Latham yesterday.

"Parlophone were aware of the data source glitch and removed the link immediately," it read. When asked to confirm that this meant that the label had indeed placed the Google Ad and then removed it, the company spokesman twice declined any further comment or clarification.

This afternoon, Radiohead responded to Parlophone's removal of the ad. "We accept that it was a genuine error and that it has been rectified," the band's spokesman wrote in an email to Guardian Unlimited Music.

This may draw a line under what seemed like an escalation of a behind-the-scenes feud between EMI and Radiohead. Relations between the two have been frosty since the band, who fulfilled their contract with the label with 2003's Hail to the Thief, decided to not to resign with them. Days after the band decided to release the CD of their new album In Rainbows with independent label XL last month, EMI announced it was offering the rockers' output from 1993 to 2003 for sale as a seven-CD box-set.

It soon became clear that the back catalogue release was put together without the involvement of the band, who have distanced themselves from it. ("The band haven't released it," band spokesman Murray Chalmers said. "The band aren't in contract to EMI anymore.") The EMI box-set will be sent out at the same time as In Rainbows "discbox" box-set in December and at the same price, too.

While fans have accused EMI of releasing its Radiohead box-set as "retribution" for the band going elsewhere, the label has denied this.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 13, 2007, 07:18:07 PM
don't really see the idea behind this as there won't be much of a market to buy all of these at once. i guess they hope someone will mistakenly think this is the new album and once they realize different won't return it?

wonder how long before the EMI best of/greatest hits comp...
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on November 20, 2007, 03:29:03 PM
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/shows/steve_lamacq/media/radio205x150.jpg)

Radiohead Interview (1 hr)
Broadcast on 6 Music Mon 19 Nov - 18:00

Radiohead's Thom Yorke and Ed O'Brien exclusively chat to Steve Lamacq about their latest LP 'In Rainbows'.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/6music_aod.shtml?6music/radiohead_int
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on November 27, 2007, 09:40:04 PM
So does anyone know what to expect on the B-Sides? Is it going to be studio versions of songs that didn't make the cut on In Rainbows (A B-Side) or is it going to just be an EP of rare and live stuff?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on November 27, 2007, 09:44:32 PM
i'm expecting 25kbps ringtones.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on November 27, 2007, 09:50:33 PM
i think/hope it's all studio stuff.
thom said in that interview that 'down is the new up' is the best phil's ever been and that he regreted that they couldn't include it in the actual album but it just didn't fit with the rest of the songs.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on November 27, 2007, 11:07:29 PM
So does anyone know what to expect on the B-Sides? Is it going to be studio versions of songs that didn't make the cut on In Rainbows (A B-Side) or is it going to just be an EP of rare and live stuff?

I've always had all indications it was made up of studio tracks that didn't make the album.

At Ease had a report today about someone who was accidentally shipped the box set one week early. WASTE has already contacted him to make sure he doesn't leak it. He tells what MK1 and MK2 are (the only two tracks with unfamiliar names)

***spoilers***


he says they're just minute long noise fillers...seems odd to me though for them to do that.

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on November 27, 2007, 11:11:49 PM
Maybe this is the TRUE OK Computer II and they are really called Fitter Happier I and II, respectively, respectively.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on November 29, 2007, 08:12:21 PM
http://www.radiohead.com/tourdates/
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on November 29, 2007, 09:26:51 PM
So it begins.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: modage on December 02, 2007, 07:51:49 PM
Hello,

Just to let you know…

Your “In Rainbows” discbox has now left w.a.s.t.e. in the UK

You can expect delivery of your discbox in the following estimated times.

UK 1-8 days

Europe 1-14 days

Rest of World 5-18 days

Wherever possible (especially to customers in the USA), we’ve sent these by road and sea.

December is a busy time of year for postal services globally, so please be patient.

We thank you for your custom and hope you enjoy your discbox when you receive it.

Best wishes.

us @ w.a.s.t.e.


 :yabbse-smiley:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on December 02, 2007, 07:58:04 PM
I wonder how long until it leaks.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on December 02, 2007, 09:02:07 PM
1-8 days
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on December 03, 2007, 09:50:03 AM
It took 1 day.

My request was just filled at Waffles.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on December 03, 2007, 10:35:57 AM
oh god oh god oh god oh god oh god
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on December 03, 2007, 12:08:43 PM
Stefan, what's the deal?
Hook us up with invites to waffles.

Anyway, I'm also robbing it from what.cd
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: cron on December 03, 2007, 12:43:58 PM
i found it the moment i posted my last post. it's...right in front of you. :yabbse-wink:

 
cd2 in case anyone wants it:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9tnimxglcd


wow, did thom just sang 'i'm stuck in a tardis' ???   badass.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on December 03, 2007, 02:26:27 PM
cd2 in case anyone wants it:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9tnimxglcd

i'm there and i don't see anything.

papa needs a new pair of ringtones!

ring without tones
without ring without
tones without ring
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on December 03, 2007, 02:38:56 PM
here it is. (http://www.mediafire.com/?6x1u4ynmm3r)

wow, did thom just sang 'i'm stuck in a tardis' ???   badass.

i'm stuck in the TARDIS
trapped in hyperspace
one minute snake charming
the next in a motorcade

that's probably my favorite b-side right now.

MK1 and MK2 are around a minute long each. MK1 has echoes of Videotape and allows for thom yorke to once again demonstrate that thom yorke is the greatest hummer of all time. MK2 is total jonny greenwood. i looove the percussion and strings on Down is the New Up. the most stripped down track is Last Flowers. it's lovely but easy to see why it wasn't included on the album. and Bangers & Mash is the bodysnatchers of the b-sides.

Go Slowly is one of the most satisfying things i've heard this year. i love how every little sound that builds and then fades is later reprised at some point. it's perfect. kind of like a calmer There There.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on December 03, 2007, 09:25:15 PM
and Bangers & Mash is the bodysnatchers of the b-sides.

haha, definitely.

thanks for the hook up, excellent audio quality.. better than the actual album.  :yabbse-sad:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on December 03, 2007, 09:44:45 PM
I'm disappointed. Only because I set myself up to get another full album of new material and instead all it was were b-sides. My own fault I guess. It makes In Rainbows sound actually better knowing they chose the correct tracklisting.

Last Flowers is beautiful though.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: I Don't Believe in Beatles on December 03, 2007, 09:48:58 PM
Thanks for uploading that, Hedwig.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on December 05, 2007, 02:54:30 PM
Last Flowers is beautiful though.

I concur.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on December 06, 2007, 03:16:36 PM
Your chance to download Radiohead's In Rainbows is about to end. The band has announced that the InRainbows.com Web site will close Saturday. But you can still plunk down $80 for the box set at Radiohead's online w.a.s.t.e. store, while supplies last.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 06, 2007, 04:55:27 PM
1. Last Flowers is legendary.   

2. You're all crazy.  Bangers & Mash is phenomenal!  Hardly the Bodysnatchers of CD2.  They almost fall into some 70s Roy Ayers-type funk.  I kept waiting for a horn section to kick in.  The ending tries its best to kill it but it makes it through alright.  Most improved from the 06 tour.

3. Up on the Ladder is Punch-Up's baby brother.  And that's cool with me.

4. Minute Warning is a decent closer.  Like Spielberg regards David Koepp.  Could go head-to-head with Videotape on a good day.

5. Go Slowly is OK but it should really be called Wish You Were There There.

6. Down Is The New Up is the real disappointment here.  I have one or two live versions of it here and I'm probably not going to stop listening to them.  In fact, it needs a little of what Bangers has, which the live versions of Down actually had.  The strings make it sound like a Bond theme.  Which really just makes me want more than ever for Radiohead to do a real Bond theme.

7. I nothing MK1&2. :|
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: brockly on December 06, 2007, 08:24:34 PM
this felt more like hail to the thief left overs than rainbows. i pretty much agree with everything sparrow said, except i think go slowly is great. i didnt like bangers n mash when i heard it live, but i LOVE the recorded version. after hearing the b-sides i can definately say that bodysnatchers and house of cards are still by far the worst of the rainbow recording sesh (imo).
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on December 08, 2007, 09:36:49 AM
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/17565096/radioheads_cd2_breaking_down_the_exclusive_companion_to_in_rainbows
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: essbe on December 08, 2007, 05:43:38 PM
I had heard Radiohead every now and then but never really invested into listening to them.  When In Rainbows became available to download for free I decided to check them out, what a good idea that was.  The more I listen to them, the more I like them.  I've downloaded a few  songs and I'm just wondering what you guys think their best albums are, and if possible where I can download them.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: squints on December 08, 2007, 07:08:57 PM
are you serious?
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: matt35mm on December 08, 2007, 07:20:03 PM
Oh be fair.  Many of us were exactly that when Hail to the Thief came out.

Essbe, I think you'll find your answers in other parts of this thread.  I believe there's a few pages where a bunch of people ranked their favorite albums and discussed their choices.  The short answer, however, would be to get ahold of all of them.  There's not one that I'd consider not worth having.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on December 08, 2007, 07:47:48 PM
I had heard Radiohead every now and then but never really invested into listening to them.  When In Rainbows became available to download for free I decided to check them out, what a good idea that was.  The more I listen to them, the more I like them.  I've downloaded a few  songs and I'm just wondering what you guys think their best albums are, and if possible where I can download them.

For me it goes
OK Computer (the gold standard for ALL albums)
Kid A
The Bends
Amnesiac
Hail To The Thief
Pablo Honey
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: squints on December 08, 2007, 08:44:09 PM
me being fair:

OK Computer and The Bends are definitely two of the greatest albums ever made.


You can find most of their stuff on just about any torrent site out there.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on December 08, 2007, 08:56:00 PM
it's only fair if essbe is really young or really old.

and it's NOT fair to tell the guy that all their albums are worth getting. pablo honey should not be recommended at all. especially since anyone who gets into them now is most likely a fan of their GOOD music, and not interested in some nostalgia crap.

it like saying "if you loved EWS, you MUST watch Killer's Kiss!" come on. only a completist would have to, or someone desparately trying to hold onto the idea that they are greater fans cos "the old stuff is ALWAYS better than the new stuff". this is not the case with either examples.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: matt35mm on December 08, 2007, 09:22:06 PM
It's fair to say it if I think it's true.  It has no nostalgia tang for me, nor am I any sort of completist.  I am aware that it's not of the quality or even wavelength as everything Radiohead has done since, but I still have a good time listening to it, and I think it's worth having on its own terms.

Our reasoning is the same, but our opinion of Pablo Honey is different.  I wouldn't have recommended it if I thought it was crap.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on December 08, 2007, 11:58:45 PM
I'm not too sure that Pablo Honey has any redeeming qualities, though.  It's obviously before the band found their voice together, and naming your favorite track on it is really just reaching to defend them.

In fact, if you're just getting into them now, pretend The Bends is their first CD and you will give them much more credit than they deserve.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on December 09, 2007, 12:21:53 AM
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/12/09/arts/09pare600.1.jpg)

Pay What You Want for This Article
By JON PARELES; New York Times

SHORTLY after Radiohead released its album “In Rainbows” online in October, the band misplaced its password for Max/MSP, a geek-oriented music software package that the guitarist Jonny Greenwood uses constantly. It wasn’t the first time it had happened, Mr. Greenwood said over a cup of tea at the venerable Randolph Hotel here. As usual Radiohead contacted Max/MSP’s developers, Cycling ’74, for another password. “They wrote back,” Mr. Greenwood said, “‘Why don’t you pay us what you think it’s worth?’”

Well, Radiohead was asking for it. Those are the exact terms on which the band is selling the downloadable version of “In Rainbows”: Buyers can pay zero or whatever they please up to £99.99 (about $212) for the album in MP3 form. Sixteen years and seven albums into the career that has made Radiohead the most widely pondered band in rock, it is taking chances with its commerce as well as its art. For the beleaguered recording business Radiohead has put in motion the most audacious experiment in years.

Radiohead is not the first act to try what one of its managers, Chris Hufford, calls “virtual busking.” But it’s the first one that can easily fill arenas whenever it tours. “It feels good,” said Thom Yorke, the band’s leader, over a pint of hard cider at his local Oxford pub, the Rose and Crown. “It was a way of letting everybody judge for themselves.”

Radiohead’s pay-what-you-choose gambit didn’t just set off economic debates. It should also establish 2007 as two kinds of tipping point for recorded music. One is as the year of the superstar free agent. After fulfilling its contract in 2003 with its last album for EMI, “Hail to the Thief,” Radiohead turned down multimillion-dollar offers for a new major-label deal, preferring to stay independent.

“It was tough to do anything else,” Mr. Yorke said during Radiohead’s first extensive interviews since the release of the album. “The worst-case scenario would have been: Sign another deal, take a load of money, and then have the machinery waiting semi-patiently for you to deliver your product, which they can add to the list of products that make up the myth, la-la-la-la.”

Signing a new major-label contract “would have killed us straight off,” he added. “Money makes you numb, as M.I.A. wrote. I mean, it’s tempting to have someone say to you, ‘You will never have to worry about money ever again,’ but no matter how much money someone gives you — what, you’re not going to spend it? You’re not going to find stupid ways to get rid of it? Of course you are. It’s like building roads and expecting there to be less traffic.”

The Eagles and Madonna, both with sales that dwarf Radiohead’s, also abandoned major labels in 2007, as did songwriters as influential as Joni Mitchell and Paul McCartney, who moved to Hear Music, the independent label partly owned by Starbucks. Meanwhile Prince has followed his own wayward path, from one-album distribution deals through major labels to giving away CDs at concerts or, lately, bound into a British Sunday paper.

The second tipping point is the decisive migration of music to the Internet. Of course that has been anything but sudden. Music has been bouncing around online, sold or shared, since the days of dial-up, and bands like Smashing Pumpkins and Public Enemy gave away full albums online years ago. But the momentum of online music has been accelerating. Apple’s iTunes became the third-largest music retailer in the United States this year. Amazon added MP3 downloads alongside physical album sales. Hip-hop mixtapes, singled out for copyright prosecution by record labels, disappeared from stores and street corners only to thrive online, where the likes of Lil Wayne, Cam’ron and Kanye West release their latest innovations.

And Radiohead was able to draw worldwide attention to “In Rainbows” with no more promotion than a modest 24-word announcement on its Web site on Oct. 1. To the band’s glee, it could release its music almost immediately, without the months of lead time necessary to manufacture discs. Mr. Hufford said “In Rainbows” has been downloaded in places as far-flung — and largely unwired — as North Korea and Afghanistan.

On Nov. 9, as a kind of workaholic lark, Radiohead staged a free, thoroughly informal Webcast called “Thumbs Down,” with real-time performances of new songs and covers of Bjork and the Smiths, from its cluttered studio in Oxford. (Many clips are on YouTube.)

Yet Radiohead’s online choices, band members said, were among the easier decisions made during the protracted recording process of “In Rainbows.” The band and its producer, Nigel Godrich, focused on 16 songs and worked them over in the studio, on the road and in the studio again, for well over two years of torturous rearranging and rewriting.

“We kept on ripping the guts out of it all the time and starting again,” the drummer Phil Selway said in Oxford.

The band chose 10 concise, tuneful songs for the album. In them Mr. Yorke sings about displacement, disorientation, memories and moving on. “Weird Fishes/Arpeggi” wonders “Why should I stay here?,” imagines decomposing underwater and being eaten by worms, then concludes, “Hit the bottom and escape.”

Throughout “In Rainbows” Mr. Yorke’s lyrics can be mapped onto personal relationships, the state of the world or the state of the band.

Behind much of the album “was a sudden realization of the day-t0-day, tenuous nature of life,” Mr. Yorke said. “Most of the time I was really, really trying not to judge anything that was happening. I was trying to just, not exactly knock it out, but not trying to be clever. That’s all.”

The Internet had already witnessed much of the gestation of “In Rainbows,” as Radiohead tested songs in public, knowing they would be bootlegged immediately. “The first time we ever did ‘All I Need,’ boom! It was up on YouTube,” Mr. Yorke said. “I think it’s fantastic. The instant you finish something, you’re really excited about it, you’re really proud of it, you hope someone’s heard it, and then, by God, they have. It’s O.K. because it’s on a phone or a video recorder. It’s a bogus recording, but the spirit of the song is there, and that’s good. At that stage that’s all you need to worry about.”

The band worried over other things. After releasing “Hail to the Thief” and touring the world, Radiohead took a year off. The members, all in their 30s, turned to raising families as they mulled over the future. Early in 2005 they began rehearsing together tentatively, although, Mr. Selway said, mentioning the word “album” was taboo for a year. They had a list of songs, most of which would appear two years later on “In Rainbows,” by September.

But as 2005 ended, Radiohead still had not regained its momentum. Mr. Yorke, a prolific songwriter, made his own album, “The Eraser,” working mostly alone with his computer and samples.

Mr. Godrich was busy recording Beck, so the band tried some sessions with Spike Stent, who had worked with Bjork, at the beginning of 2006. It was disappointed with the results. Then it decided that performing might put the songs into shape. It booked a summer tour in 2006, playing half a dozen new songs at every show. Soon, thanks to bootlegged recordings online, fans were clearly recognizing each one. After the tour Radiohead returned to the studio, only to decide that the songs weren’t ready yet.

“To be brutally honest,” the guitarist Ed O’Brien said over lunch at Shoreditch House in London, “the problem about playing these songs live is that we were bored with them. We played them 80 times live or so, and we’d rehearsed them to death. It just didn’t happen when we got back into the studio initially.”

Once again the band began tinkering. “We have a song and we’ve got lots of different ways we can try it, but we don’t know what’s going to work, and that’s why it still sort of feels a bit weirdly amateur,” Mr. Greenwood said. “You’d think by now we’d know what’s going to work, and what’s still frustrating, or kind of encouraging in a way, is that we don’t know whether it’s going to work on a laptop or whether it has to be a piano or. ...”

He half-smiled. “It’s got so twisted,” he added. “What we’ve learned is that you can’t repeat a method that you’ve already used for a song when it did work.”

The sound of “In Rainbows” often seems straightforward, almost like a live band; it is Radiohead’s most gracefully melodic album in a decade. But Radiohead arrived at the music circuitously, and there’s often more tucked into a track than is apparent at first. “Videotape,” with lyrics about recording a happy moment in a tape to be viewed posthumously, has a tolling piano and a beat so elusive that “we spent about a year in rehearsal on that song actually all trying to agree on where the one was,” Mr. Selway said. “Each of us, over the course of a year, we’d all lose it.”

The “Reckoner” that was part of the band’s live sets sounds nothing like the “Reckoner” on the album, which includes the lyrics “in rainbows.” When the band returned from touring, it decided the song needed a second part, and then a third one; eventually it discarded the original. For “All I Need,” Mr. Greenwood said, he wanted to recapture the white noise generated by a band playing loudly in a room, when “all this chaos kicks up.” That sound never materializes in the more analytical confines of a studio. His solution was to have a string section, and his own overdubbed violas, sustaining every note of the scale, blanketing the frequencies.

Mr. Yorke worked on many of the songs in the Rose and Crown. “I sit there, on the way in, because it’s a really nice little table,” he said, pointing. “And then I get out my scraps of paper and I line them up. I need to put them into my book because they’re just scraps of paper, and I’m going to lose them unless I do it. So am I writing here? Probably. I don’t know yet. I’m just collating information. This is a nice, relaxing thing to do, and it also keeps your mind tuned in to the whole thing. And you see things you didn’t know.”

The band and its managers are not releasing the download’s sales figures or average price, and may never do so. “It’s our linen,” Mr. Hufford said. “We don’t want to wash it in public.” A statement from the band rejected estimates by the online survey company ComScore that during October about three-fifths of worldwide downloaders took the album free, while the rest paid an average of $6.

Factoring in free downloads, ComScore said the average price per download was $2.26. But it did not specify a total number of downloads, saying only that a “significant percentage” of the 1.2 million people who visited the Radiohead Web site, inrainbows.com, in October downloaded the album. Under a typical recording contract, a band receives royalties of about 15 percent of an album’s wholesale price after expenses are recovered. Without middlemen, and with zero material costs for a download, $2.26 per album would work out to Radiohead’s advantage — not to mention the worldwide publicity.

Both Mr. Hufford and the members of Radiohead said the strategy had been a success. “People made their choice to actually pay money,” Mr. Hufford said. “It’s people saying, ‘We want to be part of this thing.’ If it’s good enough, people will put a penny in the pot.”

“This was a solution to a series of issues,” Mr. Hufford added. “I doubt it would work the same way ever again.”

Radiohead has not abandoned the physical disc. A mail-order deluxe version of “In Rainbows” — the album and a bonus CD, two vinyl albums, artwork and a fancy package for $80 — went on sale alongside the downloaded version on Oct. 10, directly from the band’s own mail-order merchandising company, W.A.S.T.E., and was shipped to the first buyers last week.

Mr. Hufford said that he and Bryce Edge, Radiohead’s other manager, had come up with the pay-what-you-want plan during a stoned philosophical conversation about the value of music. They had initially proposed releasing only the download and the deluxe box, but the band overruled them, noting that many of its fans are neither downloaders nor elite collectors. On Jan. 1 — a day when few albums are usually released — the single-disc “In Rainbows” is due as a retail CD and vinyl LP, in joint ventures with the independent labels TBD (part of ATO Records, partly owned by Dave Matthews) in the United States and XL in most other countries.

Will Botwin, the president and chief executive of ATO Records Group, optimistically described the download as “the world’s largest listening party,” drawing attention to the album among Radiohead’s core fans. The label plans to market to a broader audience with everything from television advertisements to in-store displays. Radio stations have already been sent the bruising rocker “Bodysnatchers” — a song, Mr. Yorke said, inspired by Victorian ghost stories, “The Stepford Wives” and his own feeling of “your physical consciousness trapped without being able to connect fully with anything else” — and the tense folk-rocker “Jigsaw Falling Into Place.”

The music business awaits results on how the worldwide downloads of “In Rainbows” will affect disc sales. “The record company doesn’t know,” said a grinning Colin Greenwood, Radiohead’s bassist, over tea in London. “They called our office and said, ‘We’ve made this amount of records, is it enough?’ And our manager’s office said, ‘I don’t know.’ It’s great, isn’t it?” For Radiohead, uncertainty is home turf.



* Thom Yorke on Radiohead's Online Experiment (mp3 (http://graphics8.nytimes.com/audiosrc/arts/goingonline.mp3))
* Thom Yorke on Shuffling Music (mp3 (http://graphics8.nytimes.com/audiosrc/arts/shuffle.mp3))
* Jonny Greenwood on the Production Process (mp3 (http://graphics8.nytimes.com/audiosrc/arts/production.mp3))
* Phil Selway on the Collaborative Process (mp3 (http://graphics8.nytimes.com/audiosrc/arts/confrontation.mp3))
* Jonny Greenwood on the Recording Process (mp3 (http://graphics8.nytimes.com/audiosrc/arts/obsession.mp3))
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pozer on December 09, 2007, 01:14:57 PM
it's only fair if essbe is really young or really old.

and it's NOT fair to tell the guy that all their albums are worth getting. pablo honey should not be recommended at all. especially since anyone who gets into them now is most likely a fan of their GOOD music, and not interested in some nostalgia crap.

it like saying "if you loved EWS, you MUST watch Killer's Kiss!" come on. only a completist would have to, or someone desparately trying to hold onto the idea that they are greater fans cos "the old stuff is ALWAYS better than the new stuff". this is not the case with either examples.

this reminds me of when i was on a road trip with my uncle recently and decided to play in rainbows.  he liked it.  later on he was flipping thru my CD case and came across pablo honey.  "let's give this a spin" he says.  i made the mistake of not spinning it right out the window.  several songs in he declares "nevermind" and takes it out.  i plead "wait try that one there.  have you heard of ok comp--"  "--nah, i was mistaken.  band sux" he says.  why did i have to alphabetize my cd case by album titles, and WHY does my uncle have to flip through them backwards?  :yabbse-undecided:
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on December 10, 2007, 10:23:07 PM
Caught in the flash
Radiohead released a landmark album, and gave it away for free. Craig McLean asks the questions of the band changing everything - with a little help from you, the people
Source: The Observer

Toshio Suzuki, 25, from Nagoya in Japan, has a question he wants OMM to ask Radiohead. 'Dear Representative: with the assurance that this question is coming from an ardent fan, may I simply ask why In Rainbows took so long?'

'We were all in family mode,' replies Colin Greenwood, a bookish and slightly spacey chap who spent yesterday playing Risk with son Jesse, not yet aged four and one of 11 Radiohead children. 'Because Thom was doing his record. And [producer] Nigel [Godrich] wasn't around to record the album and... it became quite clear that we couldn't move forward without him.'

Alex Green, 15, from Cornwall, has another: 'Was In Rainbows the most painful album to make?'

'It was difficult,' says Colin. 'But I don't think it was more difficult than The Bends and OK Computer.'

'And Kid A and Amnesiac and Hail to the Thief!' chips in his brother, Jonny. 'They've all been difficult! But you forget that quite quickly, how painful they are, so it's fine.'

Now here is Louise Kent, 45, from Vancouver: 'Why is it called In Rainbows?'

'Um,' says Thom Yorke in the manner in which he begins most answers to most questions. Often he'll scratch his head, too, making him look totally Stan Laurel. 'Because it was the desire to get somewhere that you're not. I thought of that last night.'

So it's nothing to do with the theory posited by Cony Abbatemarco, director of food and nutritional services at Gaylord Hospital in Connecticut, who writes (and I quote): 'According to Genesis 9:1 (9+1 = 10!), God created the very first rainbow for Noah (Thom Yorke's son's name) as a symbol of gratitude and a promise of peace. This is known as the Noahic Covenant and in it God blesses Noah, his sons and all modern humankind ('Reckoner' lyrics??). God promised Noah that never again would there be complete destruction to all living things. Is the In Rainbows title related to this?'

'Ha ha ha!' laughs Ed O'Brien. 'Excellent. I love this shit! Fair play to somebody who works this stuff out!'

'Uh-oh,' says Thom Yorke. 'No. That's pure coincidence. Having not read that particular section of the Bible ...' he adds with a wryness so thick you could eat it with a fork.

'Some people,' notes Phil Selway, 'have far too much knowledge for their own good, you know.'

And now here's Maja Dorn, 33, from Germany: 'Can you say something about the sales figures of In Rainbows, the average price paid only for the download and the number of ordered discboxes? In which countries the most discboxes?'

Ed: 'I think there's about 80,000 discboxes.'

Jonny: '60,000.'

Ed: 'It was 65,000 a week ago.'

Colin: 'It's 72,000.'

Answering that question, it appears, might take some time...

Welcome to Radiohead vs The People, an OMM-curated global interrogation of the world's first post-tomorrow band.

As you may have heard if you've switched on the TV, or opened a newspaper, or talked to anyone, or walked down a desert track in Mongolia, on 10 October this year Thom Yorke (39, vocals, guitar, keyboards), Ed O'Brien (39, guitar), Jonny Greenwood (36, guitar, weird obscure muso kit), Colin Greenwood (38, bass) and Phil Selway (40, drums) released their seventh album and first in four years, In Rainbows. They had only announced its existence on 1 October, when a posting appeared on Dead Air Space, the diary section of Radiohead.com: 'Hello everyone. Well, the new album is finished, and it's coming out in 10 days. We've called it In Rainbows. Love from us all. Jonny.'

Initially the album was solely available via download. Boldly, simply, Radiohead were allowing anyone interested to set their own price: £00.00 if they wanted. A discbox, offering the download but also double vinyl and CD versions of In Rainbows, plus 'enhanced CD with [eight] additional new songs, artwork and photographs of the band', would be available in December at the fixed price of £40.

But, yes, it's worth repeating: You could get the new album from one of the biggest rock bands in the world for free

This was the proverbial butterfly flap that caused a far-off hurricane. Debate raged. Really raged. Radiohead - who had previously sold 23 million albums via traditional channels - were single-handedly tearing down the music industry. No, cheeky kids were tearing down Radiohead, taking the band at their word and paying precisely nothing for the 10 tracks. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates and the entire global technological and media top brass were committing hara kiri. Guy Hands - boss of Terra Firma, the private equity firm who earlier this year bought Radiohead's old label EMI for £2.4bn - knocked over his latte. Bono was in the corner in a huff, muttering 'damn, why didn't we think of that?' The record shop was dead, the DIY age was here and long live the virtual store! Could this business model be applied to, say, cars and comestibles too? Nothing would ever be the same again ...

Liam Gallagher, asked if Oasis - also currently without a record deal - would release their next, seventh album via a similar 'honesty box' mechanism, replied with much cursing and a pithy 'over my dead body'. Jay-Z, though, was mad for it: 'What Radiohead did with their album was a genius idea. I'm going to pay $50 for it.'

'The kamikaze pilot in me wants to do the same damn thing,' Courtney Love wrote on her blog. 'I'm grateful for Radiohead for making the first move. I'd do it differently. That's why B-sides are no longer B-sides, but have to be A-sides, to an extent.' Right on, Courtney.

Gene Simmons of Kiss, waggling his big tongue, was less impressed: 'Are they on fucking crack?' he spluttered. 'Do they really believe that's a business model that works?' Lily Allen exhaled a ring of fag smoke and huffed: 'It's arrogant for them to give their music away for free - they've got millions of pounds. It sends a weird message to younger bands who haven't done as well. You don't choose how to pay for eggs. Why should it be different for music?'

'How do the band respond to comments by Lily Allen and others accusing them of being arrogant and inconsiderate for putting their music out for whatever price the fans wished to pay?' - Jacob Day, 25, Orem, Utah

Thom: 'That's from Lily Allen?'

No, that's from Jacob in Utah, but Lily Allen said that last week.

Thom [clapping hands and emitting high-pitched laughter]: 'Oh, I'm upset about that.'

So that's no comment?

Thom: 'Well, that was my comment. It makes me laugh.'

And in the middle of all this, some people were even asking about said music. Like, was In Rainbows really the warmest, most approachable yet still daring Radiohead album yet? Might this be, in Radiohead terms, the perfect storm: the record that married the big rock welly of The Bends, the heart and soul of OK Computer, and the sonic adventurism of Kid A and Amnesiac.

So many questions, so little response from Radiohead. So, when they finally agreed to talk, OMM decided to follow the spirit of the In Rainbows 'initiative' and have fans and album-purchasers help with the questions.

In the middle of last month I asked through two Radiohead fansites, Ateaseweb.com and Greenplastic.com, for questions for the band. I also asked respondents to include, if they didn't mind, the amount they'd paid for In Rainbows. Thirty-six hours later, some 700 emails from all over the world were testing the capacity of the OMM inbox.

I then hooked up with Radiohead in London on a wet Monday morning in late November. The venue was handy both for the M40 to Oxford and Marylebone Station (four-fifths of Radiohead still live in Oxfordshire, where they formed the band in 1986 while attending the private, boys-only Abingdon School; Ed O'Brien lives in north London). Ed, Colin and Jonny are interviewed together, and then Thom and Phil.

Few groups enjoy the bond with their fans that Radiohead do. By any measure, they qualify as one of the world's biggest bands, but politically attuned and socially-aware, they are wary of the baggage that implies, and operate almost under the radar - now more so than ever. Given the invitation, the type of question submitted was a long way from 'why are you so fit, Ed?' Although someone did ask that, too. What follows is a selection of the best with some further context and interpretation.

'The In Rainbows cover art departs from the impersonal and apocalyptic imagery of recent albums. The music does the same. It's warm and inviting. The whole aesthetic points to a shinier, happier Radiohead. Do the band agree a shift has occurred? If so, why do they think it happened?' - Wes Jarrell, 25, USA

Thom: 'Uhnnnn, yeah, kind of. More sort of explosive and ... Explosive is perhaps not the right word but in-your-face, spontaneous. That's what we were aiming at.'

Ed: 'I think the big thing was Thom's lyrics really. That always heralds something. The music always seems really strong, but the lyrics were ...'

Where has that come from within Thom?

Ed: 'I think not being scared to be personal. And not being scared to ... I think it was really liberating for him to do [his solo album] The Eraser. His voice is really upfront. That's the most noticeable thing. He's not hiding. And after OK Computer he sort of withdrew a bit. I think it's also being bold enough and brave enough to be personal. And you know what... there's stuff to write about in your late thirties. You've lived. You've started families up.'

Jonny: 'You're a different person.'

Ed: 'Yeah, you've stopped dealing with, "Me, I'm the centre of everything." Because you've got kids you can't do that. So, it changes. It was like, "Wow, there's a warmth to these songs, it's very human."'

'Lyrically, In Rainbows seems to revolve around infidelity and relationships. This is a big jump from the more world-focused, environmentally-charged lyrics in the previous two-three albums. Was Thom more focused on family life and dealing with personal matters during the songwriting process for this album?' - Bianca Carlson, 30, Denver, Colorado

Thom: 'More focused on not getting into large generalities, definitely. Other than that, I couldn't really say, to be honest.'

'To what extent is In Rainbows about middle-age malaise and the sort of drifting moods you find in the corners of 15-year-old marriages?' - Anthony Strain, 28, Modesto, California

Thom: 'It was much more about the fucking panic of realising you're going to die! And that any time soon [I could] possibly [have] a heart attack when I next go for a run. You know what I'm saying.'

Before the release of his solo album in July last year, Yorke told me that being in Radiohead 'was getting boring and it just got a bit weird and self-perpetuating ...

'It felt like everyone was under obligation to do it rather than because we wanted to do it. And one of the things I had wanted to do for ages was get stuck into a bunch of things that I had been mucking around with that didn't fit into the Radiohead zone.'

The band had started recording a new album sometime in 2005 in the wake of the brain-scrambling world tour (another one) in support of 2003's Hail to the Thief. They began working on album seven with Mark 'Spike' Stent. Then, throughout May, June and August last year, around the July release of The Eraser, Radiohead toured the UK, Europe and America. They were 'road testing' new songs - 11 in total by the tour's end. They had done this before, when they meandered through Spain and Portugal in summertime prior to the recording of Hail to the Thief, and it had worked fine. So it seemed last year: 'Nude', a 'lost' Radiohead song that they had been trying to record for a decade, was finally sounding great. 'Reckoner' was a 'cock-rocking guitar stomp' (© Jordan Cox, 21, Auckland, New Zealand). 'House of Cards' was a beautiful, ethereal ballad. Radiohead were, as Yorke said, 'getting to a good space'.

But away from the stage ... The sessions with Stent seemed to have come to naught. Maybe they would produce themselves. Whatever, no one was breathing down their necks - their contract with EMI had been fulfilled, so Radiohead were unsigned. No deadlines, no focus ... When the tour ended in Amsterdam on 28 August 2006, the band were still, it would transpire, all over the shop.

That said, back in the spring, Yorke had been restless. He knew Radiohead had become bogged down in the studio in the past (see: the agonising sessions that would eventually produce Kid A and Amnesiac). And he had an eye on the future.

'It seems crazy to have this all [new material] sitting around,' he said. The new album was, 'to varying degrees, finished, [and] to just have to wait for another six months, eight months, seems nuts.' Oooh ... somewhere in the recesses of the collective Radiohead psyche a little idea may have just begun - as Yorke put it last month - 'floating around'.

Fast forward to April this year. Having reunited last autumn with Nigel Godrich for sessions in a leaky country mansion in Wiltshire, their own Oxfordshire studio and in Godrich's place in London's Covent Garden, Radiohead are, at last, at the mixing stages of the making of their seventh album.

'Did you make a conscious decision to get away from the electronic sounds... or was a transition purely organic?' - Paul, 26, Ontario, Canada

Jonny: 'Eh...'

Colin: 'I think [not working with Godrich initially], we realised we wouldn't be able to make the record without him - and we discussed making everything sound sort of organic.'

Ed: 'There was a conscious thing that Nigel talked about, and we talked about, stripping stuff out. Not putting everything into.... You know, making arrangements and music slightly more minimal.'

'When, and how, did the transition from suburban paranoia to sensuality take place?' - Jon Papas, 22, Rochester, New York

Ed: 'Yeah, yeah! Exactly!'

Colin: 'Tick!'

Thom: 'Ed always banged on about how this record was very sensual. The mind boggles slightly, but I think there was a lot of that. It was as much about the way it flowed and whatever, not specific things. But it is kind of... it's not supposed to be in any way cerebral.'

In April the band also had a meeting with their managers, Chris Hufford and Bryce Edge, who had a suggestion: as the band were without a record deal, why not release the album themselves, via the internet? Cue much discussion, endless meetings. Then, another idea: how about letting people decide how much they paid for it? If anyone could 'get away with' such a seemingly reckless plan...

Phil: 'Not everything had been working towards this initiative. The one thing that we had was, we wanted to make a record. Quite simply, that was it, that's what was driving us along. I think because [the album] was taking quite long, our management were twiddling thumbs at points and they were just coming up with ideas. And this was one that really stuck.'

Thom: 'Whenever the discussion was started up, it just seemed like so nuts to be talking it, 'cause we didn't know whether we were going to get our shit together. And it was only through the energy, the elation for want of a better word, of actually finishing it and being proud of it, that getting into this whole thing of, "Yeah, let's get it out, let's do the download" that it made sense.

'It felt so much it was Chris and Bryce's bag. It was nothing to do with us, we'd done our fucking job. And it was exciting because we knew we'd done something that we were really proud of.'

In the 10 days between Jonny's posting and the album going on sale, the internet and media were afire with discussion. Radiohead kept schtum. What was that period like for the band?

Thom: 'It was really fun. All this shit kicked off and we were all just sitting at home going [high- pitched], "What?". It was brilliant. Hard hats on!'

Phil: 'But also we felt quite detached from it... We'd be spotting the most bizarre place [in the media that the download 'business' idea] came up. One of the dads at school came up to me - he's a car sales manager - and said, "You're on the front page of Automotive Industry today!"'

So, back to Maja from Germany's question...

Any idea of the average price paid?

Colin: 'No.'

Phil: 'Well, we're still putting that stuff together at the moment.'

Thom: 'Very politically put.'

Phil: 'But it's been good. It has been good.'

'Was that last question from a "G Hands"?' adds the drummer, in his soft-spoken, schoolteacher-ly fashion.

Early last month a web-monitoring company called comScore claimed that 62 per cent of downloaders had paid nothing. The other 38 per cent had paid an average of £1.29. 'Those figures are all fucking shite,' says a somewhat vexed Yorke. (He isn't very good at hiding his emotions: in terms of spending time with him, this makes for someone who's either thoroughly engaging, or who makes you feel you're sitting smack in the middle of a cloud.) 'My parents were talking about some article [he affects smugly sneery tone], "Ooh it's all gone wrong. Oh dear, it's all backfired." That's utter fucking crap. It's all worked very nicely thank you, [mirthless laughter] ha ha ha.'

So you've made more money than you would have from the conventional sales route?

Colin: 'If we'd set out to do this to make lots of money, we'd have signed to Universal Records two months ago. So it was not something that we did... No sane person would have released a record like this for financial gain.'

'Did the band purposefully wait until after their record deal expired with EMI to release their most commercially appealing album since OK Computer, just as a kind of final "screw you"?' - Shay, north Wales

Colin: 'No, the whole EMI thing, we were still working with them up until the release of this record.'

Ed: 'We thought a deal could be done. We really did. So...'

Why wasn't a deal done?

Ed: 'Because EMI is in a state of flux. It's been taken over by somebody who's never owned a record company before, Guy Hands and Terra Firma, and they don't realise what they're dealing with. It was really sad to leave all the people [we'd worked with]. But he wouldn't give us what we wanted. He didn't know what to offer us. Terra Firma don't understand the music industry.'

But in the words of Elizabeth Ortega, 16, from Whittier, California: 'do the band think they basically said "fuck you" to half there [sic] fans because not everyone has access to the internet?'

Thom: 'That was a condition of doing this whole project, that we put out a normal CD. Because I totally agree.'

On 8 November, Radiohead did indeed announce the release of a straight 'physical' - i.e. CD - version of In Rainbows via XL Recordings on 31 December. 'What type of contract have you signed?' - John Galantini, 22, Southampton

Thom: 'lt's licensing for one record. Same with [American label] ATO.'

Phil: 'Is that "G Hands, disconsolate of London" again?'

But if Guy Hands is smarting, his company at least has the comfort of releasing a Radiohead box set which brings together the band's first six albums, also this month.

'EMI appear to have reacted to your giving In Rainbows to XL in a particularly petulant manner, releasing a box set in direct competition...'

Thom [more mirthless laughter]: 'Ha ha ha!'

'...what did you think when you found out? More importantly, how will you retaliate? Novelty Xmas single? Limited edition Pop Is Dead remix boxset' - Andy Shade, 28, Coventry

Phil: 'And that was from "T Yorke of Oxford."'

Jonny: 'We knew something was going to happen, whether it was going to be a cheesy greatest hits or this.'

Ed: 'It came from up high anyway, it was from the Terra Firma lot. We knew that when the negotiations went on for this record, we knew that that was going to be an issue, and we had to accept that it was going to come out.'

Jonny: 'It's not done in the best possible taste.'

Thom: 'How did we feel? Um, isn't it lovely? What did the others say? Well, um, hmm, yes, isn't it nice? We're not allowed to slag it off.'

'What has been the hardest part of releasing In Rainbows by yourself?' - Dan Rockwell, 26, Corvallis, Oregon

Ed: 'The one for me was missing some of the people in our record company. We were lucky to work with some of them. That's the only downside I think. The people.'

Thom: 'It wasn't really a challenge as much as a "dive in, who gives a shit?" sort-of-thing really. Because it seemed to be the necessary thing to do. We were aware that we had no idea of the consequences, but that made it really exciting.'

'Some people think you do the bad thing for young bands - because who would like to pay for their records if we can all get album of Radiohead, world famous band?' - Aleksandra, 17, Poland ('sorry for my English')

Jonny: 'Yeah, we went through the pluses and minuses of doing this. That was the biggest question mark really.'

Ed: 'But the thing is, so much good music is now free anyway.'

Jonny: 'Yeah, the download culture is there anyway. It's King Canute - you can't pretend the flood isn't happening. This friend of mine bought the Muse album. And his 12-year-old son was just looking at it - "Wow, the real thing!" His son had the album already, he knew the songs, but he'd never held a CD. He just found it a curious object. That's kind of how it is now.'

Colin: 'It's not prescriptive for us or for anyone else. The problem with that line of questioning is you end up sounding like one of the old record companies. You're forgetting what music is all about: excitement and talent and artists doing cool new things that people are into. That's what record companies had forgotten about. They were worrying about all these ancillary questions and forgetting about the primal urge of people to share and enjoy music. And there's always going to be a way of finding money or livings to be made out of it.'

Ed: 'It's just [about] responding to the environment, the situation, that's all we're doing. And trying to do our best. But we haven't got all the answers.'

Out there in the blogosphere, some people think super-brainy Radiohead do have all the answers. Many respondents to OMM's posting were seriously exercised by the conspiracy theories (they felt were) embedded within In Rainbows

Jonny Greenwood sits up at mention of this. 'You know all these, don't you?' says Ed O'Brien - the heartiest, most gregarious Radioheader - to his fellow guitarist. Greenwood, the youngest and possibly shyest member of the band, replies by looking sheepish.

These theories include the 'tenspiracy', so named because In Rainbows came out on 10/10, the title has 10 letters, as does OK Computer, and it's out 10 years after said album. There is supposedly some binary coding at work here. This is what Cony Abbatemarco was on about when he wrote 'According to Genesis 9:1 (9+1 = 10!)'.

So for the record: with regards to 'the Kid 17 and tenspiracy theories' (Neil Dooley, 19, Dundalk, Ireland); the idea that The Golden Section of In Rainbows occurs at exactly the moment in 'Reckoner' when the backing vocals sing the words "in rainbows" (Tom Ballatore, 37, in Kyoto, Japan); that the bonus disc's tracks correspond to the Star of Ishtar in Taoist philosophy (Curtis Perry, 19, Ontario, Canada); that In Rainbows is a 'Pynchonian citation' (Carlo Avolio, 22, Naples, Italy); that it relates to Conrad's Heart of Darkness (Alex Drossart, 18, Wisconsin); that it is conceptually linked with Goethe's Faust, notably in 'Videotape' ('When I'm at the pearly gates/this will be on my videotape/Mephistopheles is just beneath/and he's reaching up to grab me') - in definitive response to all those: Radiohead don't know anything about any of that stuff.

Thom: 'All good records have a heart of darkness.'

Phil: 'You've been asked that one before, obviously.'

Thom: 'I have, yep! I vaguely know the story of Faust. But that would involve me having remembered it in some detail or picked it off the shelf. Which I didn't. But yes, hmm, Goethe's Faust. I'm going to have to look that one up, actually, 'cause that sounds suitably pretentious. We live in Oxford, after all.'

'When I listen to Kid A and Amnesiac I can't help but notice a narrative sewn seamlessly into the music. Does Kid A end with a suicide?' - Aaron McClaskey, 20, Fort Wayne, Indiana

Thom: 'No, 'Motion Picture Soundtrack' ends with little tweety angel noises, I seem to remember. [sings quietly] "I will see you in the next life..." No, that could just be saying goodbye to someone dying. They don't have to be doing it themselves. You can read suicide into most things, can't you?'

The Eraser, now, that does feature a suicide. Released in July 2006, Yorke's solo album was an electronic cri de coeur, an itchy collection of moans about the state of the planet and, more specifically, in the song 'Harrowdown Hill', about the venal state of a body politic that could allow a man - government weapons inspector Dr David Kelly - to be hounded to his death. The Eraser would go on to be nominated for the Mercury Prize, losing out to the Arctic Monkeys' debut.

In response to the question 'has The Eraser made an impact on the music-making of the band?' (Hasan Dindjer, 15, London), Yorke acknowledges that making his solo album enabled him to get out certain thoughts and feelings that might have sat oddly within 'the Radiohead zone'. This thereby freed him up to be more 'in-your-face' with In Rainbows. Godrich, too, who produced The Eraser, was instrumental in prodding Yorke, convincing him that a techno-treated mumble was no use for the new Radiohead album - on these bright and direct new songs, the singer had to sing.

Dan Lewis, 32, a teacher in Philadelphia, asks: 'Margaret Florence [aka Stevie Smith] one wrote, "why does my Muse only speak when she is unhappy? She does not, I only listen when I am unhappy." Can you relate to this?'

Thom: 'That's good. That's true. But unhappy would be the wrong way of putting it. You're in a certain state of mind. Unhappy is not... the entire manifestation of that state of mind. It's also hyperactive, out-of-control, off-your-face. All these things. But not necessarily just unhappy or melancholic, which I read the other day, which is a much better word.'

'Why did Thom turn down Paul McCartney's request to collaborate [on his recent Memory Almost Full album]?' - Ron Sauzo, 25, San Fernando, California

Thom: 'Uhh, 'cause I can't play piano. Not like that. I had to explain to him that, I listened to the tune - "Mr Bellamy" - and I really liked the song, but the piano playing involved two hands doing things separately. I don't have that skill available. I said to him, "I strum piano, that's it."'

While the new record is a more personal work, the fans still look to Yorke as political oracle; the people still require answers from someone.

'Does Thom feel that his efforts in the environmental battle are helping any? Are the politicians at last hearing him out in [Friends of the Earth's] Big Ask campaign?' - Kristin Idlebird, 18, Houston, Texas.

Thom: 'The Big Ask thing has been actually quietly really effective... Actually, Gordon Brown is now sort of suddenly coming on board. Or at least he says he is... The other thing which was going on in the background this year was that the Tories had a big environmental report. That was going to be quite a positive, exciting thing, but then it got quietly shifted to the side. That was a downer. But maybe, you know, Gordon Brown's now on the case and maybe things are looking up.

'Unless you have laws in place, nothing's going to happen. Nothing of this is going to be voluntary. It's a bizarre form of rationing that we're all going to have to accept, just like people did in the Second World War.'

So fundamentally, Brown must grasp the thistle of eco-taxes?

Thom: 'Yeah. Which for someone like the ex-Chancellor of the Exchequer who's got [former director-general of the Confederation of British Industry] Digby Jones in his fucking government is going to be quite a tricky one. [Brightly] Anyway. Very technical and boring. I love going on about it.'

Another direct question that I'd like to put: in these post-Blair times are you more or less optimistic about the situation in Iraq?

Thom: 'What I find totally horrifying is the stories of the soldiers coming back. I think the thing that stays stuck in my throat is Blair saying, "I'm answerable to God over this." Well, actually you're not. In a democratic country you're answerable to us, pal. And I don't understand why the government really has never accepted full responsibility for its mistake, and sought to, with humility, address it properly in a democratic fashion, when it was the most unpopular thing any government has done for quite some time.'

Radiohead have also been - say it loud - having a laugh, as anyone who tuned into the Thumbs Down webcast that the band quietly hosted on their own site last month will know. 'What was the idea behind Thumbs Down?' asks Tobias Radoor, 15, from Denmark? Well, it was a 'chaotic news show' (Yorke), the name arising from 'a desperate attempt to find a name in five minutes flat' (Yorke). In the three-hour show the band DJ'd, performed cover versions (the Smiths' 'The Headmaster Ritual', Joy Division's 'Ceremony', Björk's 'Unravel'), reimagined the end of David Fincher's Se7en (with Yorke's head in the box instead of Gwyneth Paltrow's), and generally goofed around with comedy pals Adam Buxton (of Adam & Joe fame) and Garth Jennings (half of pop promo directors Hammer & Tongs).

You might view Thumbs Down as a further evidence of Radiohead's embrace of a DIY aesthetic and declaration of independence: we don't need record companies, and we don't need the media either. Or you might view it as five blokes having a laugh in the studio, hogging the record decks and going, 'No, my turn, my turn, listen to this!'

'We never play each other what we're into normally,' says Yorke. 'And the fact that people are watching is a bonus. But, also, it was a really nice thing to do because we set up this infrastructure and this way of thinking, and it's a nice way to get into this idea of doing TV stuff.

'Got to do it again in a couple of weeks,' he sniffs. 'But we have discovered a way where we can actually do it, not at the sort of bandwidth and quality that that one was, but we can do it off-the-cuff, stream it live from our studio whenever, which is fucking mental. It would be pretty lo-fi. So we might do a bit of that as well...'

The snarky view of Radiohead as 'gloomy, depressing, remote, difficult': this whole In Rainbows 'event', the soulful album and the heartfelt method of selling it, destroys that. Empowering the consumer has, in a way, humanised the band.

Thom: 'Well, part of the point for me personally was to get away from the story of [our] whole situation completely. If people want to know about it, go and find out. There's no perpetuating of myths that you don't agree with. [We're] just trying to avoid all that. I mean...

Thom Yorke sighs and rubs his ever-present (and rather gingery) stubble.

'"Depressing?" Oh yeah,' he snorts, 'whatever.'

Other things we have learnt:

1. Radiohead fans - notably Italo Rossi del Aguila, 21, in Lima, Peru - are seriously vexed by the fact that the band have never played South America: 'Yeah, so am I!' says Ed O'Brien. 'We are going to go! We're fucking going!'

2. Radiohead have at least one fan on Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan. Hello to First Lieutenant Sean M Warner of the USAF.

3. Radiohead will start touring in America next May; sorry, Daniel Baker, 19, in Bournemouth, Neil Burns, 15, in Glasgow, and Thomas Hutchcroft, 16, in Somerset, they don't know yet if they will play Glastonbury. But I think they would like to. (Yorke's favourite ever 'Radiohead moment' was Glastonbury '97.)

4. To reduce their carbon footprint, they've thought about touring by ship. 'But if we go on the Queen Mary to the US,' says Yorke, 'it's more carbon emissions than it is if you go on the plane. The most eco-way of doing it is for us to get a crate on a merchant ship. That was pretty impractical!'

5. In response to the question from Bryn Gay, 26, in Colombo, Sri Lanka, as to whether Radiohead might apply the pay-what-you-like initiative to gigs, especially in 'less developed regions', Yorke replies: 'That could get really out of hand. Imagine the touts getting on that one!'

6. In response to the queries from Kathleen Plank, 19, from Indiana, and from Colm Byrne in Co Meath, who read Nick Cohen's What's Left? on Colin Greenwood's Dead Air Space recommendation, Colin is currently reading Piers Brendon's new The Decline and Fall of the British Empire, Jonny's re-reading Gibbon's The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Ed's just finished Man's Search For Meaning by Victor Frankel ('Brilliant. He's an Auschwitz survivor'), Phil's reading Mark Haddon's A Spot of Bother, and Thom's reading Q by mysterious Italian anarchist group Luther Blisset. I tried to read that once, I tell him. 'Oh it's fucking ace! But my missus, that's her specialist field, so she's been explaining it to me all the way through. Medieval church carnage. It's mental. I want to get it made into a film. That's my next mission.'

Using the In Rainbows profits?

'Mmm-mm,' says Thom Yorke, shaking his head. 'I doubt it. That would cover basically the catering.'

Incidentally, among OMM's respondents - and bearing in mind these questions came via fansites, so the results should be weighed accordingly - half bought the box set. Ten per cent refused to say if or how much they paid. Of the remaining 40 per cent, just under a quarter paid nothing. Of the 75 per cent who did pay, the average price was £5.65. If we include those who didn't pay, the average price per download was £4.33.

Phil: 'What a lovely price.'

Is that pretty much pure profit?

Thom: 'Actually, unfortunately not in this case, because it's taken quite a lot to set all this shit up, servers and all that crap. There was a lot of risk. The biggest risk was that no bugger would pay anything, and we'd still have placed this infrastructure, and we would have lost out. But that hasn't happened, so that's fine.

'It was worth it just for getting a buzz out of the whole thing, which is what we have got. And it's worked actually way, way, way, way better than we thought it would.'

There's just time for one final question. Ana Paquim is Portuguese but lives in Sweden, and wants to know: 'Is it still fun?'

Thom: 'Hello Ana. Yeah. Sometimes. Definitely.'

Colin: 'It is at the moment.'

Ed: 'Yeah.'

Phil: 'Basing it on the five weeks that we've had so far, it's more fun.'

Jonny: 'I was listening to it on my iPod on the way up today, and some of the songs I still want to listen to. With all our records I'm normally keen to frisbee it out the window by the end of it. But I could still listen to 'Nude' and 'Reckoner' and think they're great.'

Thom: 'Well, definitely, definitely the whole download thing has given a real boost of energy to the camp. So yeah, so far. But after Christmas we'll all be bored again.'

Fear not, kids: Thom Yorke is, as he often is these days, joking.

· With thanks to the fan sites. Download 'In Rainbows' from inrainbows.com or buy it on CD from 31 December. The band will tour the UK in June 2008
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on December 11, 2007, 10:14:07 AM
Source: MTV

First and foremost, Radiohead are taking yet another leap in innovation by unveiling a limited-edition USB stick that holds their entire back catalog at CD-quality WAV files. The release, available exclusively at RadioheadStore.com, also has digital artwork on a 4GB memory stick. Meanwhile, their former label EMI has bundled together the band's six Parlaphone studio releases and one live disc in the form of a box set simply called Radiohead. It also features original artwork and exclusive digipack sleeves.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: tpfkabi on December 11, 2007, 04:08:29 PM
anyone in the US got their's?

seems people on the east coast are starting to get them.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: MacGuffin on December 12, 2007, 02:17:39 PM
Get ready to remix as rappers love Radiohead's In Rainbows too
Featuring Del Tha Funky Homosapien and Zion, the unauthorised Rainydayz Remixes is out as a free download on January 10
Source: Guardian Unlimited

Del Tha Funky Homosapien will be among the hip-hop artists lending their talents to Rainydayz Remixes, an unauthorised cut-up of Radiohead's In Rainbows album. It's the brainchild of Oakland-based DJ Amplive, who has worked with Akon and Talib Kweli, but has likely never come within fifty feet of Thom Yorke & Co.

Del Tha Funky Homosapien is an MC in the hip-hop groups Hieroglyphics and Deltron 3030, and a former member of Gorillaz. He will appear on an undisclosed track, as will rappers such as Too Short and Zion.

Rainydayz Remixes will be released on January 10. As with the official In Rainbows, you will be able to download it free of charge. High-quality MP3s and artwork will be dispatched direct from Amplive. It will only be available however to those who can prove that they "bought" the original In Rainbows - even if they paid £0.00.

The DJ describes this as a way of "reward[ing] the support of Radiohead". The truth is probably some more akin to: "avoid[ing] the wrath of Radiohead's lawyers".

Only one song has been made available so far, a remix of Weird Fishes/Arpeggi - with no Del in earshot. The wistful Radiohead original is diced into something RollingStone.com calls "sleek and simmering", and we call "weak and plodding".
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on December 12, 2007, 02:39:21 PM
haha, that's awesome.

It's unfortunate that rappers like Del never got the mainstream success shitty rappers like 50 cent, Kanye West, and Lil Wayne did.

I've been reppin Hiero since I was in Jr. High! My first car had a Hiero sticker on the bumper.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 12, 2007, 02:39:48 PM
Weird Fishes and Nude remixes.

I don't like either one.

http://www.myspace.com/amplive

Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: hedwig on December 12, 2007, 03:27:27 PM
so i guess this is the antidote to Skeet Spirit.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Stefen on December 12, 2007, 03:35:58 PM
Hack, If nobody else is going to say it, I guess I'm gonna have to.

Listen, I care about you, I think of you as a friend and I want whats best for you. WE ALL DO. We're looking out for YOU not as a fellow poster, but as a loved one.

You're killing your name with these mash-ups. It was one thing when we thought it was just a hobby that you liked taking your username and infusing it with something you were digging at the moment. Some of us brushed it off as you just going through a phase and some of us well, just didn't even notice it was taking place.

But these last two have made you UNRECOGNIZABLE. You've infused so much that you all of a sudden have no limits nor boundaries. Come back to us HACK SPARROW!!! When you look in the mirror do you even recognize the username you once were? Do you remember what your username used to be? I bet you don't because you've been fusing and forging and capitalizing, and punctuating your username so much that now, well now nobody can even remember your beginnings.

I don't speak for myself when I say we want that smile back. The pop culture has done you in.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: Pubrick on December 12, 2007, 09:21:37 PM
he's so close to coming back with this one.

H.(sparro)W.

H.(acksparro)W.

H(acksparro)W

HacksparroW

Stefen

..

so close.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: picolas on December 13, 2007, 03:21:06 AM
i fully support sparrow's decision to be a name-shifter.
Title: Re: Official RADIOHEAD thread
Post by: grand theft