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Title: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Raikus on February 07, 2003, 03:29:25 PM
If you didn't think Lucas was a bastard before, prepare to change your mind.

(Although I hate pulling any news from AICN)

Just got back from  the opening night of the ILM/Skywalker Sound tribute at the American Cinematheque @ the Egyptian Theatre.  While it was real cool seeing Lucas in person, there really wasn't a whole lot discussed that would be enlightening to most fans.  Much of the Q&A revolved around topics that we have seen or heard in the many commentaries or interviews from the last twenty years.  Still, it was pretty damn awesome seeing the man, albeit he's kinda of short in person.    

Anyway, about the only major piece of info to come from this night may upset the purists.  THERE WILL BE NO ORIGINAL VERSIONS ON DVD!!!   Lucas flat out said that we won't see the originals on DVD and I'm guessing any format other than those it already exists, ie laserdisc and video.  I have both the originals and specials on laserdisc.  Of course, you could get bootlegs but that isn't legal, unless the Emperor makes it legal.  This news was met with very little snickering or hissing.  Lucas feels the originals weren't complete so the special editions are the versions he intended to make 20 years ago.


Greedo shooting first, indeed.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: RegularKarate on February 07, 2003, 04:13:24 PM
This is not anything new really.  He had always said that the Special Edition was the real movie now and that would be what we saw when they were released on DVD.

It sucks ass really... but we always new it would be like that.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Cecil on February 07, 2003, 04:16:14 PM
sigh.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: life_boy on February 07, 2003, 06:25:13 PM
Quote from: cecil b. demented
sigh.


There's nothing else you can really say but that.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Recce on February 07, 2003, 11:37:01 PM
What the hell, the man developped most of the technologie used in DVDs adn he's not gonna release Star Wars on it? 'Sigh' indeed.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: sphinx on February 07, 2003, 11:45:49 PM
perhaps you misread it---he's not releasing the original original trilogy, just the special edition original trilogy.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: life_boy on February 08, 2003, 04:04:49 AM
Quote from: sphinx
perhaps you misread it---he's not releasing the original original trilogy, just the special edition original trilogy.


He should do both.  I like parts of the special editions but the original original trilogy is too priceless to just completely 'toss-out' the way he is.  Surely he didn't have trade wars and annoying reggae aliens in mind when he was young, niave George, just trying to get his 'space picture' made in the middle of the Tunisian desert.  I used to respect Lucas and everything but over the years and especially with the installment of the 'prequels' I've lost nearly all of that.  He really does have too much technology at his disposal.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 08, 2003, 12:22:45 PM
Quote from: life_boy

He should do both.


Yeah he should, hed make even more if he did. But besides that, he really needs somebody to come in and help him with the scripts and direction (Spielberg) for the last Star Wars.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Raikus on February 08, 2003, 01:59:46 PM
Eh, the Star Wars franchise is dead. Long live the Matrix.

But even if Lucas pulled his head out of his own ass long enough to make a good Episode 3, would it even matter? We've been groomed over the years to think in trilogies when it comes to Star Wars. Even if Episode 3 is good, would it be enough to separate itself from it's shitty origins?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: life_boy on February 08, 2003, 03:22:45 PM
Good question.  I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: bonanzataz on February 08, 2003, 03:24:24 PM
All I'm saying is, thank God I bought those Laserdiscs.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: RegularKarate on February 08, 2003, 05:56:29 PM
Well, all we can do is hope that he releases the special editions as they are now and not just the way he plans.

He's been talking about doing even more "touch ups" on 4-6... adding the creatures from 1-3 so it looks like a more complete universe.

Eventually there will be no original footage at all.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on February 08, 2003, 06:15:54 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
He's been talking about doing even more "touch ups" on 4-6... adding the creatures from 1-3 so it looks like a more complete universe.


Article from around the time of the Attack of the Clones release:

If George Lucas had a penny for every time someone asked him when Episodes IV, V and VI were coming out on DVD he’d be… well, an even richer man. But, having repeatedly dashed hopes by insisting such a release will have to wait until the entire prequel trilogy is in the bag, Lucas has left fans worldwide clutching their solitary Phantom Menace disc and howling at the unfairness of it all.

Now, while we can’t do anything about the three year delay, we can reveal why the finished products will certainly be worth the agonizing wait. As distressed as the rest of you by the absence of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of The Jedi on DVD, Empire Online collared Producer Rick McCallum at the Attack of The Clones premiere to find out exactly what’s holding Lucas back.

"Three years is a long time, but that’s how long it takes," he said of the delayed transition. But what, you may ask, is taking up the time exactly? Well, never one to do things half-heartedly, Lucas isn’t happy with a DVD of the original edits, nor, it would seem, of the enhanced Special Editions. Having previously confessed to shooting a number of additional scenes for the original trilogy while filming Episode II and with many more to be lensed during the third prequel’s production, George has made it his mission to complete the story once and for all. And so, we asked, will this spanking new footage make its debut on the DVD releases when they finally arrive? "Absolutely," confided McCallum with a conspiratorial grin.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 08, 2003, 07:24:04 PM
Release a DVD where you can select original or SE, either in a package like E.T. or a single DVD where by selecting the original it just skips the SE parts and plays the original scenes in place. I still think he should wait for HD-DVD to release them, but hes got to get paid.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Recce on February 08, 2003, 10:25:23 PM
So Lucas is gonna add even more stuff to the originals? I don't think I like that. I bought the triologie on VHS and they had all these stupid 3D animations added. It completely threw me off. Why can't he jsut leave them as is. He'll end up messing with them so much that they'll suck.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: bonanzataz on February 09, 2003, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: Raikus
Greedo shooting first, indeed.


You know, I never got that joke until now. I totally forgot everything from the special edition. Not on purpose, but I've just always had the old video boxed set version with the big faces on the sides and only saw each of the remastered ones once when they were in theaters. It does say on the back of the box that it's the last time the original trilogy will ever be released. Lucas sucks.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 09, 2003, 12:43:39 AM
About the new versions, it would be better to me if the new footage matched up with the old, but it doesnt. CGI doesnt fit into that world. Its like splicing XXX scenes in the middle of Casablanca.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: sphinx on February 09, 2003, 01:04:49 AM
Quote from: bonanzataz
You know, I never got that joke until now. I totally forgot everything from the special edition. Not on purpose, but I've just always had the old video boxed set version with the big faces on the sides and only saw each of the remastered ones once when they were in theaters. It does say on the back of the box that it's the last time the original trilogy will ever be released. Lucas sucks.


still got that box set in my closet.  i pop em out and watch them every now and then

if lucas knew that i had it, he'd probably make me burn it
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: life_boy on February 11, 2003, 02:23:47 AM
A Relationship, Ended. (http://www.theonion.com/onion3904/nations_love_affair.html)
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: RegularKarate on February 11, 2003, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
http://www.petitiononline.com/OTondvd/petition.html


One guy just wrote "Han shoots first"
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 17, 2003, 10:09:08 AM
The Star Wars Trilogy on DVD in 2004?
Source: The Digital Bits

The Digital Bits reports that Lucasfilm may be releasing the Star Wars trilogy on DVD next year to build buzz for the release of Star Wars: Episode III in May, 2005.

We've heard from a number of industry sources we trust (and who have proven their reliability in the past) in the last few weeks. They're reporting that Lucasfilm is seriously considering releasing the Star Wars Trilogy on DVD late next year. In fact, our information indicates that some work is already under way toward a 4th Qtr, 2004 release. Word is that Lucasfilm is pleased with the format of The Adventures of Indiana Jones: The Complete DVD Movie Collection they're releasing on 10/21 in conjunction with Paramount - so pleased, in fact, that they're planning to use the same format to release the classic Star Wars films. This would presumably mean a 4-disc set, with a disc for each film and a fourth disc of special edition materials for all three films. It would certainly make sense. First, it would be a great way to get a buzz going into early 2005, when the final film, Episode III, is set to arrive in theaters.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: edison on September 17, 2003, 11:20:50 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin
The Star Wars Trilogy on DVD in 2004?
Source: The Digital Bits

The Digital Bits reports that Lucasfilm may be releasing the Star Wars trilogy on DVD next year to build buzz for the release of Star Wars: Episode III in May, 2005.

We've heard from a number of industry sources we trust (and who have proven their reliability in the past) in the last few weeks. They're reporting that Lucasfilm is seriously considering releasing the Star Wars Trilogy on DVD late next year. In fact, our information indicates that some work is already under way toward a 4th Qtr, 2004 release. Word is that Lucasfilm is pleased with the format of The Adventures of Indiana Jones: The Complete DVD Movie Collection they're releasing on 10/21 in conjunction with Paramount - so pleased, in fact, that they're planning to use the same format to release the classic Star Wars films. This would presumably mean a 4-disc set, with a disc for each film and a fourth disc of special edition materials for all three films. It would certainly make sense. First, it would be a great way to get a buzz going into early 2005, when the final film, Episode III, is set to arrive in theaters.


Let's see, should we buy this when and if it comes out? Or should we all wait for the expected release of all 6 together, sounds like another ploy to rebuy things. and thats a bunch of crap about lucasfilm being pleased about the Jones set, it's not like dvd is new to the market, they should already have a extensive knowledge about the things dvd can do and what it can offer.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Find Your Magali on September 17, 2003, 01:21:44 PM
I hope that, unlike the Indiana Jones trilogy, we get commentaries on Episodes IV, V and VI.

Lots of commentaries. Lucas, actors, production designers, film critics, fanboys.

This needs to happen.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Find Your Magali on September 17, 2003, 01:48:55 PM
Quote from: mogwai
what do you mean, include the audio commentaries on the supplement disc? :wink:


Exactly. Get two DVD players. Put them side by side. Insert Episode IV in DVD #1, with the audio off. Then synchronize the start of the movie with the audio commentary on the supplemental DVD, which will be playing in DVD #2.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: DigitalFriend on September 26, 2003, 01:34:50 PM
George Lucas is a douche bag.

There I said it.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: eward on September 26, 2003, 10:41:03 PM
george lucas needs to fucking be finished with star wars and move on to directing small pictures like american grafitti again.  do you think he even wants to do star wars anymore?  i think he feels like he has to.  well he does have to, but do you think he even gives a shit at this point?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 27, 2003, 11:05:56 AM
Lucas is not a filmmaker more. With the original Stars Wars finally hitting dvd and the new ones finishing up in theatres, Lucas' rape of customers is going to hit all time as he finds every way to release these movies on editions that make "special" look the norm. If Lucas is granted twenty more years of life, you may see him make other films. Stars Wars in dvd land is going to take up a lot of that time. Even if Lucas does make another film, it likely will be an exploitation of special effects and Pinocchio like characters supporting them. Fuck Lucas and the CGI horse he rode on.

~rougerum
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: bonanzataz on September 28, 2003, 07:48:07 PM
what i don't understand is how lucas gets final decision? doesn't 20th century fox own distribution rights? if they feel there is a big enough market for it, why can't they just go out and release separate editions? why does fox feel the need to jerk lucas off and enlarge his already enormous ego?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Banky on September 28, 2003, 09:24:26 PM
i think this whole board is pretty harsh on George Lucas.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 28, 2003, 09:45:27 PM
Quote from: Banky
i think this whole board is pretty harsh on George Lucas.


..yeah I agree.

::screams into a megaphone::


WHY?.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: eward on September 28, 2003, 09:46:11 PM
because he needs to become a director again, not a whore
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: ono on September 28, 2003, 09:48:23 PM
Quote from: eward
because he needs to become a director again, not a whore

He never was a director ... er, "good director" ... in the first place.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on September 28, 2003, 09:53:55 PM
He's always looked like a softcore porn director to me.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: eward on September 28, 2003, 09:54:23 PM
ooooh i beg to differ  (american graffiti?  come on, u can't tell me u disliked it)
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: ono on September 28, 2003, 10:06:10 PM
Actually, first time I saw it, I did dislike it.  Except for the whole Wolfman Jack thing.  And I've only really seen clips of it since.  And yeah, he does look like your archetypal softcore porn director.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 28, 2003, 10:17:56 PM
..Alright-

.I personally think he is ..good.

he has an unbelievable amoutn of creativity..
the phreak'n imagination it took tto create The star wars saga...that alone should be enough for NO ONE to look down upon the guy for any reason..

say what you will about the S-wars saga you either likeit or you don't
you either like the eps. 4-6 and hate eps. 1&2
or you like eps. 2&4-6

those are the catagories wherre I think generally fans a s-wars fall..

i like them all..and think that whoever thinks that he sucks is insane and should be banned from this board on general pricipal...
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Banky on September 28, 2003, 10:39:02 PM
Quote from: NEON MERCURY
Quote from: Banky
i think this whole board is pretty harsh on George Lucas.


..yeah I agree.

::screams into a megaphone::


WHY?.


Quote from: NEON MERCURY
..Alright-

.I personally think he is ..good.

he has an unbelievable amoutn of creativity..
the phreak'n imagination it took tto create The star wars saga...that alone should be enough for NO ONE to look down upon the guy for any reason..

say what you will about the S-wars saga you either likeit or you don't
you either like the eps. 4-6 and hate eps. 1&2
or you like eps. 2&4-6

those are the catagories wherre I think generally fans a s-wars fall..

i like them all..and think that whoever thinks that he sucks is insane and should be banned from this board on general pricipal...


exactly
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: eward on September 28, 2003, 10:42:07 PM
he defended georgey both times
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: bonanzataz on September 28, 2003, 11:28:10 PM
Quote from: Banky
i think this whole board is pretty harsh on George Lucas.


no, i mean, i really wanted to know why fox doesn't make the marketing decisions. especially with something as popular as SW. i don't think new line would allow mike myers to not release the austin powers movies on dvd just because he didn't think they were "ready."
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 28, 2003, 11:31:34 PM
Lucas pays a reported 7 percent of film gross to Fox for distribution.

Lucas also generally pays for theatrical and video distribution only, meaning that he retains the rights for toys and other consumer spin-offs, and has the sole right to make sequels
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 28, 2003, 11:32:25 PM
ban me.

But to rip the heart out of Star Wars, I've never liked any of them at all. Popularity wise, I think they found a large niche of cultists who have followed the series in every form known to entertainment. For the mass appeal at the beginning, Star Wars advanced the technology of Kubrick's 2001 into the modern day video game. Me, personally, I wasn't born in that time (I got LOTR instead and reject it) but the entire series at best feels like Kurosawa dragged to the mud that destroys mythology and any talent into a series of adventures worthy of bad serial comics and human affairs repeated and copied in soap operas.

I do think American Graffitti is a good film. Lucas the director has since then dissappeared.

~rougerum
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 30, 2003, 07:45:22 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
...but the entire series at best feels like Kurosawa dragged to the mud that destroys mythology and any talent into a series of adventures worthy of bad serial comics and human affairs repeated and copied in soap operas.


..I see your point.....

BUT...

..here is my opinion..I grew up in that era of Star wars. so that right their makes me baised (somewhat)..But i  think that when dealing w/ something as big in scale as this saga is your (my new phrase  i learned).."suspension of disbelief" must be pulled...it's fantasy ..and should be viewed as such.  The acting is adequate the storyis imaginarive and creative it does have a soap opers feel to it but not in a bad way but rather"a good way to push the multi-layered storeies through" ..thats how the big-fantasy-epics story gets pushed on..You call them bad soap opera i calll it "adequate stortyteeling to fit the genre"...in my opinion there is no wat you can create a "truly realistic and believable"  sci-fi fantasy film(s)...ITS FANTASY.......for example  on e of the most recent films that IMO  have nothing fake or unbelievable would be field's in the bedroom..you can't add the "believableness or true reality of that film crossed w/sci-fi fantasy.."..NOW that would be bad if done like that.....

maybe i missunderstood your point when I qouted you but this is what i got out of it ....but to say that GEORGE LUCAS HAS NO TALENT WHAT-SO-EVER IS UNTRUE AND MAKES ONE LOOK BAD SAYING SO...you/everyone/anyone ..should aknowledge this man for what he has done and will do in a medium that we geek out to.......[/i]
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 30, 2003, 10:02:33 PM
I'm glad you gave your opinion Neon, its just I still disagree. It has nothing with me having problems with the genre or anything, its just I think the movie fails even for the genre and for a good movie. And when I said there was no talent, it wasn't meant for Lucas in general, but all the Star Wars films. I should take that back, though, in a way. Talent is in the special effects for the film. Its just the special effects don't make the movie when I see nothing else there.

A fantasy movie I do dearly love and think of greatness is Princess Mononoke. You could say it is my Star Wars.

~rougerum
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 30, 2003, 10:23:19 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
I'm glad you gave your opinion Neon, its just I still disagree. It has nothing with me having problems with the genre or anything, its just I think the movie fails even for the genre and for a good movie. And when I said there was no talent, it wasn't meant for Lucas in general, but all the Star Wars films. I should take that back, though, in a way. Talent is in the special effects for the film. Its just the special effects don't make the movie when I see nothing else there.

A fantasy movie I do dearly love and think of greatness is Princess Mononoke. You could say it is my Star Wars.

~rougerum



i 'm getting  a better understanding of your point of view now..but i think you may be a little to harsh when you say that the film fails as even a "good" one...?....i  mean if i hated the film(s)..i would still say this:.."even though the story(..or insert what ever negatives you have to say here___________)were bad I got toadmit the imagination of luicas and what he brought to the table...not just in the FX  ares  btu also in the character(s) and the enviroements and the whole"star wars" world he created"..and i hope i don't sound lijke a star wars geek but i just csnn't deny this film of its importsance to me/us......also just to let you know i'm not some lunatic fanboy of star wars i will state that IMO..THAT THE LORD OF THE RINGS TRILOGY IS WHAT FANTASY ,EPIC FILMMAKIN IS ALL ABOUT , STAR WARS IN ALL MEASUREMNENTS OF A FILM HAS NOTHING ON THIS TRILOGY..THIS IS THE GRANDEST LIVE-ACTION FANTASY EPIC THAT WILL EVER BE ON SCREEN PARTLY B/C OF PETER JACKSON AND CO.  AND ALSO BECAUSE OF THE BOOKS BY TOLKIEN..
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 30, 2003, 10:36:34 PM
You're right. Sometimes to movies that don't even agree with you on general levels, there are other things to look. The FX and ingenuity Lucas had in creating this world for this time is amazing. My view point is bias in the realm of not automatically complementing that because I am very young and from the world of "oh well, every other film looks like it." It is an amazing feat indeed to what Lucas did and as a craftsman, I will give props to that. With that said, I do still see the movie in failure to hold up for me admist all the special effects affairs out there now. Not that it is lesser than the others, but that I don't see the movie very credible in holding up as a story and a movie of quality beyond the technical achievements.

With LOTR though, I see many problems and don't really like the series at all. The first movie was an introduction of characters longer than needed to be and then a series of battles and location change that amounted to only another battle and location change. With my limited ability, from what others told me of themes feasible from the books, the movie has taken the physical narrative and focused more on the battles and what not than on a storyline trying to really capture the possibilities of the novel. All the battles and how they only came to lead to just another really was the worth of one battle and the story could have been about other things. With the second, it saw Frodo start and end in basically the same situation. Little progress when all said and done. I think the movie was just a build up to the final 30 minute battle only. A lil more rewarding than the first movie given it paces itself better in making the last battle more effective because we weren't knocked over the head with it, but its still a long movie for only that. I was underwhelmed and drained.

~rougerum
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 30, 2003, 10:51:44 PM
..i see your point clearly now w/ star wars and want to coment on LOTR:

i havn't read the books but for some reason know that it legend..it feels right and THAT MUCH WORD OF MOUTH CAN"T BE WRONG...whenoi saw the first one i was (ahem..just to let you know i'llsay all the cheesy cliches about film for lack of a better words...)i was blown away..its brilliantly acted, filmed, scored, directed, etc..the story was interrsting enough to hold my interest along w/the FX and other factors..i see your point about battle then talk, battle then alk, battle then talk,,,etc...but I found each battle and dialouge(spreading the story) scenes wonderful..it's all about theJOURNEY  and i guess it's repetitive in nature about how they have abattle thengo into story and repeat..But maybe its just me Idug it...

the second film..was great also..BUT i don't thinkits NEAR asa good as the first one...I AGREE EXACTLY ABOUT FRODO'S CHARACTER THAT YOU SAID..THATS PART OF THE REASON WHY I WAS PISSED OF ABOUT THE TWO TOWERS...i

for the third installemnt I have huge hopes for..and i think it will deliver...i think also it will focus more on story rahther than action  unlike the second one did...
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 30, 2003, 10:56:16 PM
Its a kick ass thing when two people can agree to disagree and stay cool about it. I'll see Return of the King, but I don't have high hopes. I'll get back to you when I see it.

~rougerum
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 30, 2003, 11:06:41 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Its a kick ass thing when two people can agree to disagree and stay cool about it. I'll see Return of the King, but I don't have high hopes. I'll get back to you when I see it.

~rougerum



..i agree thats one of the cool things about this board.....and as for  ROTK...it should deliver....



and everyone elso..you can go back to disscusing if/when/will star wars be released on dvd..i think were done...
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on September 30, 2003, 11:29:11 PM
guys, guys.  i dont know if either of you are aware, but NEITHER Star Wars nor Lord of the Rings won Best Picture!  so, why are we even talking about them?!?!  we should be discussing more important pictures like Driving Miss Daisy.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 30, 2003, 11:31:27 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
guys, guys.  i dont know if either of you are aware, but NEITHER Star Wars nor Lord of the Rings won Best Picture!  so, why are we even talking about them?!?!  we should be discussing more important pictures like Driving Miss Daisy.



lol......good one....
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Find Your Magali on September 30, 2003, 11:38:33 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
we should be discussing more important pictures like Driving Miss Daisy.


Yeah, let's dredge up another time that Morgan Freeman got the shaft at the Oscars. ... He lost to a guy who could only move his damn foot!
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Banky on October 15, 2003, 02:05:29 PM
Star Wars DVD News?! Oct. 15, 2003
 
Source: Yakface.com, Digital Bits  by: Mike Sampson


First I want you to take a look at something. Then we'll reconvene and I'll explain.

(http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/swdvd.jpg)
That, my friends, is an invitation sent out by LucasFilm sent out earlier this week to distributors and businesses with whom they do frequent business. Someone at memorabilia website Yakface.com got their hands on a copy from a friend of a friend, etc., took a few digital photos and posted it online. Now this isn't your typical paper invite. This is a black plaque with a Darth Vader figurine standing perpendicular. Of course speculation began immediately on why LucasFilm would be inviting people to The Presidio (a complex Lucas has recently purchased). The first thought was to talk EPISODE 3 but that film isn't scheduled until May of 2005 and that seems a little unlikely. The next thought, which has been confirmed by a number of separate sources, is that George Lucas will take this opportunity to announce the upcoming release of the original STAR WARS trilogy on DVD. That's right, the most anticipated DVDs ever will finally be coming to video stores near you. When? It's still unclear but it seems very very likely that Lucas will announce exactly when on 11/5/03. Will JoBlo.com be there to report on this exciting news? Ummm, no. It appears press has NOT been invited to this event but we will have all the breaking news for you when, and if, the DVDs are announced by LucasFilm. For more on this story and more shots of the elaborate invitation, check out Yakface.com or The Digital Bits.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: markums2k on October 25, 2003, 12:14:11 AM
Quote from: Raikus
Greedo shooting first, indeed.


I've lost all faith in Lucas.  When I saw the special edition of Episode IV in theaters, I was so pumped.  I remember it like it was yesterday.  

"Oh yeah... this is that awesome part where Han blasts that green bastard through the table!  Here we go--"

(It happens.)

"Uhhh... what the fuck was that?"

So I skipped the rest of the special edition releases.  And then I saw Episode I in the theater.  That would mark the last time I ever paid $7 for a Star Wars movie.  I mean, I had a good time at Episode I, but it's no Matrix.  And it's no Lord of the Rings.  And it's no Episode IV... but even Episode IV isn't Episode IV anymore.   :(

I feel cheated, but I'm starting to get used to it.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on October 27, 2003, 09:29:49 PM
STAR WARS SPECIAL EDITION print has been enhanced AGAIN!
Source: AICN

Today I attended that screening of Star Wars: Special Edition here in L.A. at the City of Angels Film Festival. As you mentioned on your site, this was the Special Edition print, not the original cut. Special Edition or not, it's always cool to see Star Wars on the big screen.

But there was something unusual about this screening.

This was not the Special Edition print that is on VHS. There were changes in this print - specifically, the lightsabers in the Obi/Vader duel were enhanced. This has been a nitpicky thing since the SEs were released: why didn't they fix the rotoscoping on the lightsabers? Well, in this print (which, strangely, was not a new looking print) the sabers WERE fixed. Obi-Wan's saber was brilliant blue and Vader's saber was bright red (not white) in every shot - even in the shot as the blast doors are closing. In the shot where Ben's saber is pointed at the camera (where it suddenly looks like a stick) it was correctly filled in and had a glorious blue glow. I wasn't imagining things because the guy next to me immediately whispered, "Did you see that?!"

There was one other minor change as well. In the first binary sunset shot as Luke is walking out of the homestead, the lower right sun had CG clouds passing in front of it. I came home and checked my VHS copy -- no clouds. It seems a few changes were slipped into this print since the initial release.

Perhaps this seems like minor stuff, but the lightsabers have bothered me for years. I'm happy to report they HAVE been fixed. Hopefully soon, everyone else will get a chance to see it on DVD.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on November 07, 2003, 10:04:21 AM
Star Wars Trilogy (DVD): Its taken a while but at last its confirmed - the original trilogy is indeed officially coming to DVD in September next year. AICN has heard from sources at the Star Wars summit at the Presidio in San Francisco the other day where Lucasfilm gave a marketing presentation for "Episode III" and confirmed the disc releases and a few other new projects on the horizon: "The marketing timeline for Star Wars is as follows - This week, The Clone Wars, then the original Star Wars trilogy is being released September 2004, then Episode 3 teaser advertising begins in January of 2005, Episode 3 May 2005, Episode 3 DVD/VHS November 2005. One little fun fact - seems that they have TWO Star Wars television ideas floating around the ranch...one would be animation and the other - LIVE ACTION. These television projects would be in 2006". The REAL meat and potatoes was the Episode 3 footage! Some cool as hell stuff. Anakin is looking darker than ever. Dark clothes, with what appears to be some scars on his face. They showed one seen with Obi-Won, The Emperor and Anakin crashing their ship into a planet as the ship burns. They showed some animation of what will be OB1's transportation at one point in the film. A large lizard that's able to walk upside down and scale walls".
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on November 07, 2003, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: themodernage02
Star Wars Trilogy (DVD): Its taken a while but at last its confirmed - the original trilogy is indeed officially coming to DVD in September next year. AICN has heard from sources at the Star Wars summit at the Presidio in San Francisco the other day where Lucasfilm gave a marketing presentation for "Episode III" and confirmed the disc releases and a few other new projects on the horizon: "The marketing timeline for Star Wars is as follows - This week, The Clone Wars, then the original Star Wars trilogy is being released September 2004, then Episode 3 teaser advertising begins in January of 2005, Episode 3 May 2005, Episode 3 DVD/VHS November 2005. One little fun fact - seems that they have TWO Star Wars television ideas floating around the ranch...one would be animation and the other - LIVE ACTION. These television projects would be in 2006". The REAL meat and potatoes was the Episode 3 footage! Some cool as hell stuff. Anakin is looking darker than ever. Dark clothes, with what appears to be some scars on his face. They showed one seen with Obi-Won, The Emperor and Anakin crashing their ship into a planet as the ship burns. They showed some animation of what will be OB1's transportation at one point in the film. A large lizard that's able to walk upside down and scale walls".


soungs great..i unlike everyone else here have high hops for Ep. 3....
the lizard thing souinds rather surreal though.....
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on November 07, 2003, 03:21:50 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Anakin is looking darker than ever. Dark clothes, with what appears to be some scars on his face.

Goddamn, they're going ALL out :!:
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: RegularKarate on November 07, 2003, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
STAR WARS SPECIAL EDITION print has been enhanced AGAIN!
Source: AICN

Today I attended that screening of Star Wars: Special Edition here in L.A. at the City of Angels Film Festival. As you mentioned on your site, this was the Special Edition print, not the original cut. Special Edition or not, it's always cool to see Star Wars on the big screen.

But there was something unusual about this screening.

This was not the Special Edition print that is on VHS. There were changes in this print - specifically, the lightsabers in the Obi/Vader duel were enhanced. This has been a nitpicky thing since the SEs were released: why didn't they fix the rotoscoping on the lightsabers? Well, in this print (which, strangely, was not a new looking print) the sabers WERE fixed. Obi-Wan's saber was brilliant blue and Vader's saber was bright red (not white) in every shot - even in the shot as the blast doors are closing. In the shot where Ben's saber is pointed at the camera (where it suddenly looks like a stick) it was correctly filled in and had a glorious blue glow. I wasn't imagining things because the guy next to me immediately whispered, "Did you see that?!"

There was one other minor change as well. In the first binary sunset shot as Luke is walking out of the homestead, the lower right sun had CG clouds passing in front of it. I came home and checked my VHS copy -- no clouds. It seems a few changes were slipped into this print since the initial release.

Perhaps this seems like minor stuff, but the lightsabers have bothered me for years. I'm happy to report they HAVE been fixed. Hopefully soon, everyone else will get a chance to see it on DVD.


This is undoubtedly bullshit... no way would they do all these touch ups and transfer for one print that a small handfull of people will ever see.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on November 07, 2003, 09:36:00 PM
well, perhaps they have already been further touching it up for the dvd release next year?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: RegularKarate on November 07, 2003, 10:04:13 PM
I would believe that they're touching the film up for the DVD release... that only makes sense (It's Lucas), but they wouldn't pay to have just one lousy print (and why would it already be dirty?) of it made?  That's a Digi-to-Film transfer they would have to pay for.  For one print?  That one geek from AICN is gonna notice?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on November 08, 2003, 02:41:48 AM
There was a retraction to that posted on AICN the next day. It was a newly timed print, but nothing had been altered. Some people just get overexcited.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on November 20, 2003, 10:22:32 PM
more wild rumors...

Lucasfilm Making Changes to Original Star Wars Trilogy?
Source: The Digital Bits Thursday, November 20, 2003

The Digital Bits has received news that Lucasfilm may be making more changes to the original "Star Wars" films for DVD.

We've heard from a number of interesting (and we believe reliable) inside sources that Lucasfilm is currently making major new changes to the original Star Wars films - the kind of changes he began a few years ago with the theatrical "Special Edition" releases. These changes include new special effects, revised and updated shots and scenes, and new footage shot with actors Hayden Christensen (Anakin) and Ian McDiarmid (the Emperor) that would flesh out moments with their characters in the original films. For example, an aged and scarred Hayden now appears as Anakin at the end of Return of the Jedi when Luke removes Vader's helmet. Among the other changes reportedly being made are the restoration of the original "Han shoots first" moment from Star Wars and a revamped lightsaber fight between Obi-Wan and Vader.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Banky on November 20, 2003, 10:42:01 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
For example, an aged and scarred Hayden now appears as Anakin at the end of Return of the Jedi when Luke removes Vader's helmet. .



i hope that is not true


the backlash would be so huge from the film loving community
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on November 20, 2003, 10:42:45 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
the restoration of the original "Han shoots first" moment from Star Wars

(http://www.xixax.com/images/smiles/yabbse_thumbup.gif)

Quote from: themodernage02
an aged and scarred Hayden now appears as Anakin at the end of Return of the Jedi when Luke removes Vader's helmet.

WHAT??!??
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SHAFTR on November 21, 2003, 02:04:27 AM
Quote from: themodernage02
more wild rumors...

Lucasfilm Making Changes to Original Star Wars Trilogy?
Source: The Digital Bits Thursday, November 20, 2003

The Digital Bits has received news that Lucasfilm may be making more changes to the original "Star Wars" films for DVD.

We've heard from a number of interesting (and we believe reliable) inside sources that Lucasfilm is currently making major new changes to the original Star Wars films - the kind of changes he began a few years ago with the theatrical "Special Edition" releases. These changes include new special effects, revised and updated shots and scenes, and new footage shot with actors Hayden Christensen (Anakin) and Ian McDiarmid (the Emperor) that would flesh out moments with their characters in the original films. For example, an aged and scarred Hayden now appears as Anakin at the end of Return of the Jedi when Luke removes Vader's helmet. Among the other changes reportedly being made are the restoration of the original "Han shoots first" moment from Star Wars and a revamped lightsaber fight between Obi-Wan and Vader.


Here is the rumored complete list of changes, posted on TheForce.net.  Although I have a feeling it isn't true.  Reason why is posted after this article.

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Classic Trilogy Ultimate Edition in the Works
Thu, Nov 20, 03 09:33:04 PM EST


It has been reported all over the web and on this website for months, though now there's a resurgence in the rumors that an eventual and final release of the Classic Trilogy is coming. Where these rumors are coming from now is a person emailing a list of changes to websites and telling them work is being done. And while we can defintiely confirm that ILM is working on the movies for plenty of enhancements, the list may or may not be accurate. Here's the run down of possible and very rumored changes:

Episode IV: A New Hope
01. The Imperial March has been added to Darth Vader's first appearance on Princess Leia's ship.
02. When Obi-Wan is talking to Luke about his father Anakin's Theme plays in the background and then it turns into the Imperial March as he talks about Vader.
03. The lightsaber effects have been redone and the frame jumps of lightsabers being turned on has been removed.
04. There's a new scene which has been shot during the filming of Episode III in which the Emperor dissolves the Senate.
05. In the Cantina, the Duros (green aliens guys) have been replaced with Neimoidians and some aliens from the prequels have been added.
06. The bleeding arm on the floor in the Cantina has been replaced with a non-bleeding arm because it's now canon that lightsabers cauterize wounds.
07. The original shooting scene between Han and Greedo has been restored.
08. Jabba the Hutt has been given a makeover and Han no longer steps on his tale.
09. In place of R2 wobbling down the stairs to the Falcon's hangar, a CG R2 navigating the stairs like he does in Attack of the Clones was added.
10. The white boxes around space ships have been removed and new CG shots have been added.
11. The scene of the Falcon being chased by the two Star Destroyers was modified. The Falcon now does spinning moves, avoiding the Star Destroyers' fire.
12. When the Death Star destroys Alderaan there's a new scene of Yoda's reaction to the disturbance in the Force that is created by all those deaths and then it cuts to Obi-Wan reacting to it as well.
13. The Dianoga has gotten a CG makeover and were are now able to see more of the creature.
14. The Death Star's paneling and computers have been slightly altered to show similar displays to those in the prequels.
15. The words "Tractor Beam" with Aurebesh lettering.
16. More stormtroopers have been added to the Death Star.
17. Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for use with all the stormtroopers.
18. The Obi-Wan/Vader duel has been spruced up. It is much more epic and there is much more movement. A modified version of Duel of the Fates is being considered for the scene.
19. The Death Star plans that are taken from R2 have been updated. When the Rebels are reviewing the Death Star plans they look similar to the plans we see in Attack of the Clones.
20. The Death Star battle is much more epic with more Tie Fighters and more Rebels being blown to bits. We get to see old Naboo starfighters being used by the Rebels.
21. There's a new scene (shot during Episode III) where Darth Vader goes to Coruscant and lands his ship in the same building Count Dooku does at the end of Attack of the Clones. Except now the building is all fixed up and it is now Palpatine's palace. He meets with Palpatine to ask for forgiveness for his failure and inform him of a new potential who is strong in the Force.
22. Chewbacca now gets a medal.

Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
01. The taun-tauns are now CG.
02. The battle of Hoth is much more epic. We see the Imperial ships land on Hoth and release AT-ATs. The AT-ATs have been sped up a bit. There's a ground battle between the Rebel soldiers and stormtroopers featuring new ships and vehicles.
03. Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for the older Boba Fett and all the stormtroopers.
04. The white boxes around space ships have been removed.
05. The slug monster is CG.
06. Ian McDiarmid has refilmed scenes as the Emperor. The conversations between Vader and Palpatine is now longer and features a few connections to the prequels.
07. Yoda's face is now animated in CG allowing more expression of emotions yet his movements remain the same. Also two deleted scenes featuring Yoda instructing Luke have been restored.
08. A new scene was shot in which the stormtroopers, after they capture Han, Leia and Chewie, bring Vader the box containing C-3PO in pieces. Vader orders the stormtroopers to bring the broken droid to Chewbacca's cell so that he can fix him.
09. The lightsaber effects have been redone in certain parts.
10. Luke's fall from Cloud City has been reshot against bluescreen using a stuntman.

Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
01. Jabba the Hutt is now a combination of the puppet and CG.
02. The Rancor is CG and looks disgusting as ever.
03. Yoda is CG. Yoda disappears leaving his clothes behind like Obi-Wan now.
04. The ewoks are now mostly CG and there are a lot more of them.
05. The plan is to insert the love theme Across the Stars when Luke is talking with Leia about their mother.
06. Temuera Morrison's like before is now the voice for Boba Fett and all the stormtroopers.
07. In the battle of Endor there are thousands of Ewoks and they are more vicious than there midgets-in-suits counterparts. More bite the dust now.
08. White boxes around ships removed.
09. The black blotches around Palpatine's face are gone.
10. Some of the lightsaber effects have been redone. The shadows that the lightsabers made on the floor are gone.
11. During Anakin's death scene it starts with a sad rendition of the Imperial March and slowly evolves into Anakin's Theme.
12. Sebastion Shaw who played Anakin when he was unmasked has been replaced with Hayden Christenson in make-up to make him look older. Anakin has much more dialogue. He apologizes for the destruction he caused, he thanks his son for turning him back to the light, he tells his son to rebuild the Jedi and he says he loves him and his sister. Just before he dies he says, "It is finished...".
13. We see more planets celebrating at the end of the movie. We see an aged Jar Jar, who is now the leader of the Gungans, on Naboo celebrating with the people of Naboo and the Gungans. We see an old Watto, who is now unable to fly, sitting in a hover chair cheering on Tatooine. During these scenes Across the Stars plays transitioning to the victory celebration music at the Ewok tree village.
14. Anakin's spirit is now played by Hayden Christenson with make-up to make him look his age. He looks on proudly at his son Luke with the spirit of Padme by his side.

Again, these are more of a wish list than accurate information. We also wanted to tell you something perhaps even more significant. Episode I: The Phantom Menace is getting a full overhaul as well. We'll leave you with that for now.

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Q&A With George Lucas
Thu, Nov 20, 03 10:33:18 PM EST

Marc Xavier points out The Furry Conflict and the Great ‘Beard’ of the Galaxy for a summary of a new discussion yesterday with George Lucas about his movies, career and of course, Star Wars. Here's some highlights before you head over there:
· Indiana Jones 4 is currently under construction.
· The rumors of Lucas’ plans to change the original trilogy again after the release of Episode III are false.

· The bad acting in Episode II was “done on purpose” and is "part of the style.”

· The rumors about Lucas’ plans to make Episodes 7 – 9 were a “manifestation of the media.” He then joked that it “would be fun” to come up with a new Star Wars trilogy when Harrison (Han Solo) is 70 and have everyone as old people.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on November 21, 2003, 07:49:44 AM
Quote from: SHAFTR
22. Chewbacca now gets a medal.



Aside from that, any one of these changes is enough to make me cherish my VHS copies forever.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: ShanghaiOrange on November 21, 2003, 07:50:53 AM
I actually like most of those changes. :(
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on November 21, 2003, 08:16:36 AM
AICN just cried foul over the authenticity of this list. I believe 'em.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SoNowThen on November 21, 2003, 08:44:16 AM
Quote from: SHAFTR
· The bad acting in Episode II was “done on purpose” and is "part of the style.”


Best excuse ever.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on November 21, 2003, 10:33:06 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
Quote from: SHAFTR
· The bad acting in Episode II was “done on purpose” and is "part of the style.”


Best excuse ever.


Lucas really said this?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Weak2ndAct on November 21, 2003, 10:55:38 PM
Lucas has gone from the Emperor-With-No-Clothes, to the Emperor-On-Fire.  I wish someone would shake the shit out of him.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: pete on November 21, 2003, 11:04:56 PM
it's not that big a deal, you can just skip through the scene where greedo shoots first and it'll seem like the original star wars, and pretend the death star explosion was a littler fireball in the eend.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Weak2ndAct on November 21, 2003, 11:11:10 PM
A better analogy for Lucas and Star Wars:

Rebecca:
It's so bad, it's almost good...

Enid:
It's so bad, it's gone past good and back to bad again.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Pubrick on November 21, 2003, 11:59:31 PM
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
A better analogy for Lucas and Star Wars


LUCAS:
Man these geeks cry everytime i take a poop but they still buy every goddamn merchandise and dvd! haha suckers! i'm so rich.

SPIELBERG:
indeed.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Rudie Obias on November 22, 2003, 08:52:50 AM
who cares?  lucus is a fuckin' hack!  and deep down inside you all know that.  time to deal with reality, folks, our childhood is gone!  it's time to deal or wind up like kevin smith.  oh wait, he's a fuckin' hack too...

other hacks:
george lucus
kevin smith
bryan singer (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
brett ratner
tim burton
roger avery (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
the wachowski brothers
ron howard (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Pubrick on November 22, 2003, 09:32:32 AM
Quote from: rudieob
tim burton

(http://www.prsw.goe.ni.schule.de/2000_9d2/18sues/Altn.jpg)
Uh.. no, Peg.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Weak2ndAct on November 22, 2003, 12:13:08 PM
Quote from: rudieob

other hacks:
george lucus
kevin smith
bryan singer (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
brett ratner
tim burton
roger avery (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
the wachowski brothers
ron howard (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)

So where do you buy your crack?  This could be the dumbest shit I've read in ages.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on November 22, 2003, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: rudieob
(he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)

Seriously, what EXACTLY do you base that on?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Rudie Obias on November 22, 2003, 01:45:03 PM
c'mon you know its true!  these filmmakers do nothing to contribute to the art of cinema.  they just bring you the same crap over and over again.  way to be inovative!

Quote from: Weak2ndAct
Quote from: rudieob

other hacks:
george lucus
kevin smith
bryan singer (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
brett ratner
tim burton
roger avery (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
the wachowski brothers
ron howard (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)

So where do you buy your crack?  This could be the dumbest shit I've read in ages.


do you actually like ron howard, roger avery and bryan singer?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Weak2ndAct on November 22, 2003, 02:56:06 PM
Quote from: rudieob
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
Quote from: rudieob

other hacks:
george lucus
kevin smith
bryan singer (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
brett ratner
tim burton
roger avery (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
the wachowski brothers
ron howard (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)

So where do you buy your crack?  This could be the dumbest shit I've read in ages.


do you actually like ron howard, roger avery and bryan singer?

So... are you negating the other names on the list now and backtracking or what?

I don't *love* Ron Howard, I've certainly loathed some of his work (Grinch and EdTv come to mind) but he's done some movies that are pretty good (Ransom, Apollo 13) and I'm looking forward to 'The Missing.'  I don't see him making the same movie over-and-over as you so put it.  

Again, Roger Avary does not make the same film over-and-over.  Killing Zoe and Rules of Attraction are two vastly different films-- both of which I enjoy a lot.  And you can't deny his contribution to Quentin's earlier works.

The film-geek in me loves The Usual Suspects, and the comic-geek loves the X-Men movies-- the 2nd more than the first.  

I can understand you disliking individual films by certain directors, but dismiss them entirely is just foolish (especially since there's zero evidence/points in your 'argument').  

If you want a real list of Hollywood hacks, think of people like John Badham, Peter Hyams, Jon Amiel, Jan De Bont, etc.  These guys are merely hired guns, never are developing their own projects or writing anything original.  But on the list you gave, I can name at least one great film (if not more) or at least one that's entertaining in the Hollywood way.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Rudie Obias on November 22, 2003, 03:17:36 PM
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
Quote from: rudieob
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
Quote from: rudieob

other hacks:
george lucus
kevin smith
bryan singer (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
brett ratner
tim burton
roger avery (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
the wachowski brothers
ron howard (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)

So where do you buy your crack?  This could be the dumbest shit I've read in ages.


do you actually like ron howard, roger avery and bryan singer?

So... are you negating the other names on the list now and backtracking or what?

I don't *love* Ron Howard, I've certainly loathed some of his work (Grinch and EdTv come to mind) but he's done some movies that are pretty good (Ransom, Apollo 13) and I'm looking forward to 'The Missing.'  I don't see him making the same movie over-and-over as you so put it.  

Again, Roger Avary does not make the same film over-and-over.  Killing Zoe and Rules of Attraction are two vastly different films-- both of which I enjoy a lot.  And you can't deny his contribution to Quentin's earlier works.

The film-geek in me loves The Usual Suspects, and the comic-geek loves the X-Men movies-- the 2nd more than the first.  

I can understand you disliking individual films by certain directors, but dismiss them entirely is just foolish (especially since there's zero evidence/points in your 'argument').  

If you want a real list of Hollywood hacks, think of people like John Badham, Peter Hyams, Jon Amiel, Jan De Bont, etc.  These guys are merely hired guns, never are developing their own projects or writing anything original.  But on the list you gave, I can name at least one great film (if not more) or at least one that's entertaining in the Hollywood way.



no they all suck.  i'm sick of being disappointed by these filmmakers therefore they're hacks (to me).  here's why...

george lucus:
star wars episode 1 and 2 -and- all the changes to the original trilogy.
you know they suck and so why bullshit about them.

kevin smith:
jay and silent bob strike back.
there's only one note from this guy

bryan singer:
the usual suspects = the most overrated film of the 90s!  why does everyone like this movie anyway?  its 100 minutes of prolouge.

brett ratner:
thats a given....

tim burton:
hasn't made a good movie in 13 years with the exception of ED WOOD.

roger avery:
he really does nothing for me but everyone praises him like he was QT.

the wachowski brothers:
matrix is great but reloaded and revolutions were pointless and self-indulgent.  completely disappointing!  i'm a philosophy major so i know a great deal about philosophy and trust me, the matrix ain't nothing special.  it's cookie-cutter philosophy.  read a book!

ron howard:
how the hell did he win best director in 2001?

all of these directors are NOW buisness as usual filmmakers.  they don't dare to be inspiring anymore so i dub them as being hacks.  some of these filmmakers never really had it to begin with like bryan singer (man do i hate that guy).  they put out a string of disappointing films that have no real substance and a lot eye candy to make mindless bullshit movies to make money.  for shame for poisoning the art of film!

my 2 cents...

you can add john singleton to that list too.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SHAFTR on November 22, 2003, 06:35:33 PM
Quote from: rudieob
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
Quote from: rudieob
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
Quote from: rudieob

other hacks:
george lucus
kevin smith
bryan singer (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
brett ratner
tim burton
roger avery (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)
the wachowski brothers
ron howard (he never really had it, fuckin' no talent!)

So where do you buy your crack?  This could be the dumbest shit I've read in ages.


do you actually like ron howard, roger avery and bryan singer?

So... are you negating the other names on the list now and backtracking or what?

I don't *love* Ron Howard, I've certainly loathed some of his work (Grinch and EdTv come to mind) but he's done some movies that are pretty good (Ransom, Apollo 13) and I'm looking forward to 'The Missing.'  I don't see him making the same movie over-and-over as you so put it.  

Again, Roger Avary does not make the same film over-and-over.  Killing Zoe and Rules of Attraction are two vastly different films-- both of which I enjoy a lot.  And you can't deny his contribution to Quentin's earlier works.

The film-geek in me loves The Usual Suspects, and the comic-geek loves the X-Men movies-- the 2nd more than the first.  

I can understand you disliking individual films by certain directors, but dismiss them entirely is just foolish (especially since there's zero evidence/points in your 'argument').  

If you want a real list of Hollywood hacks, think of people like John Badham, Peter Hyams, Jon Amiel, Jan De Bont, etc.  These guys are merely hired guns, never are developing their own projects or writing anything original.  But on the list you gave, I can name at least one great film (if not more) or at least one that's entertaining in the Hollywood way.



no they all suck.  i'm sick of being disappointed by these filmmakers therefore they're hacks (to me).  here's why...

george lucus:
star wars episode 1 and 2 -and- all the changes to the original trilogy.
you know they suck and so why bullshit about them.

kevin smith:
jay and silent bob strike back.
there's only one note from this guy

bryan singer:
the usual suspects = the most overrated film of the 90s!  why does everyone like this movie anyway?  its 100 minutes of prolouge.

brett ratner:
thats a given....

tim burton:
hasn't made a good movie in 13 years with the exception of ED WOOD.

roger avery:
he really does nothing for me but everyone praises him like he was QT.

the wachowski brothers:
matrix is great but reloaded and revolutions were pointless and self-indulgent.  completely disappointing!  i'm a philosophy major so i know a great deal about philosophy and trust me, the matrix ain't nothing special.  it's cookie-cutter philosophy.  read a book!

ron howard:
how the hell did he win best director in 2001?

all of these directors are NOW buisness as usual filmmakers.  they don't dare to be inspiring anymore so i dub them as being hacks.  some of these filmmakers never really had it to begin with like bryan singer (man do i hate that guy).  they put out a string of disappointing films that have no real substance and a lot eye candy to make mindless bullshit movies to make money.  for shame for poisoning the art of film!

my 2 cents...

you can add john singleton to that list too.


You are pointing out one of the films by these filmmakers and ignoring the rest of their filmography.  You are an idiot.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 22, 2003, 09:06:37 PM
This is getting dumb. I agree with parts of both sides, but the way this discussion is going about is dumb.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Rudie Obias on November 22, 2003, 09:40:14 PM
yes i am dumb!  but only true genius is very misunderstood!

ps
btw i'm kidding!  hahahaha....
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on November 22, 2003, 10:23:01 PM
.......umm "do you believe in life after love (after love).repeat.......


bret ratner is okay ..red dragon is ***/*****
burton is really good  
lucas is really good...star wars is fine and American Grafitte is neat
kevin smith is funny
roger avary  is sans  talent
wachowskis are avant garde..but fine..and they are innnnovative tecnically
opie..is cool.byran singer is cool (the prologue as you call it) is very well written and directed........
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Pubrick on November 22, 2003, 11:20:41 PM
oh, i get it. rudieob is 12yrs old.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Weak2ndAct on November 23, 2003, 12:15:01 AM
Quote from: rudieob
kevin smith:
jay and silent bob strike back.
there's only one note from this guy

Okay.  So if you think he's such a fucking hack-job, why do you you own all of his movies on dvd?  I mean, you even have Clerks: The Animated Series and Drawing Flies.  What a hypocrite (see the link in his sig to the dvd collection).
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Rudie Obias on November 23, 2003, 01:20:55 AM
Quote from: Weak2ndAct
Quote from: rudieob
kevin smith:
jay and silent bob strike back.
there's only one note from this guy

Okay.  So if you think he's such a fucking hack-job, why do you you own all of his movies on dvd?  I mean, you even have Clerks: The Animated Series and Drawing Flies.  What a hypocrite (see the link in his sig to the dvd collection).


i used to like kevin smith but watching those movies again i realized that he lost a step after CHASING AMY.  i've also been meaning to trade in DRAWING FLIES.  boo-boo!
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on November 23, 2003, 06:09:05 PM
i watched Empire strikes Back today.....i forgot how funny it was......the dialogue, acting, story, sets, costumes, etc are 10 times better in the original trilogy......this might have to do with the fact that Lucas  didn't direct or write the screenplay for Empire

does anyone know just HOW involved he was in the ones he didn't direct?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Banky on November 23, 2003, 06:14:14 PM
it makes since that he had so little to do with the best in the franchise
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: nix on November 23, 2003, 10:18:03 PM
Almost all of the directors on this list have several really good films under their belts.

Tim Burton - Beetlejuice, E.S., The first Batman, Ed Wood. Sleepy Hollow is okay.

Lucas - In my opinion he's directed two good movies. He does indeed suck now.

Kevin Smith - The Good - Clerks, Chasing Amy, Dogma. He doesn't have just one note, the above films prove that.

Bret Ratner pretty much sucks.

Singer is hit or miss. The Usuall Suspects is a very good film. Period. Apt Pupil, and X1... eh. X2 was an improvement.

The one I disagree with the most is Avary. Both of his films are great. He's proved that he wasn't riding on QT coattails. He's the real fucking deal.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Kal on December 11, 2003, 08:17:37 PM
Original 'Star Wars' Episodes To Debut on DVD Next Year
7 November 2003 (StudioBriefing)
Reports began circulating widely on the Internet Thursday that Lucasfilm will release the original Star Wars trilogy (Episodes 4, 5, & 6) on DVD next September. At the same time, numerous websites were disclosing that they had received word from participants in a Lucasfilm conference at San Francisco's Presidio that they had been told the trailer for the latest -- and final -- episode of Star Wars will appear in theaters in January 2005, prior to a May theatrical release and a November home-video release.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on December 11, 2003, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: bigideas


does anyone know just HOW involved he was in the ones he didn't direct?


He was very involved with both of them, but he exerted more control on Jedi. With Empire, he mainly stayed in California during production and supervised the special effects. When he saw some early assembly footage, he freaked out and recut it all. Everyone convinced him that his new cut was terrible and later he calmed down and agreed.

He said in some interview that he directed the prequels because it was to hard to achieve his vision with someone else in control.

Duh...
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: eward on December 11, 2003, 08:34:16 PM
funny, the best one he had the least control on.......(empire)
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Banky on December 11, 2003, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: Banky
it makes since that he had so little to do with the best in the franchise




Quote from: eward
funny, the best one he had the least control on.......(empire)



?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: eward on December 11, 2003, 11:22:36 PM
sorry, didn't see your post, banky.      :oops:
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Banky on December 24, 2003, 08:11:03 AM
I have a friend who works at a post-production facility in London which has been used for ADR/voice over work for Attack of the Clones. This person told me that Ian McDiarmid came in recently to do ADR work for Episode 3 and The Empire Strikes Back - this must mean he is redoing the voice of the Emperor (actor Clive Revill) that appears as a hologram to Darth Vader. Lucas may also redo this hologram effect for it to like like Ian Mcdiarmid. I presume this is all for the upcoming DVD's of the original trilogy.

Hope this helps

respec'
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on February 05, 2004, 05:47:08 PM
The Star Wars rumor mill continues with a very juicy story currently breaking across the web. Apparent inside sources have leaked that Lucasfilm and Fox Home Entertainment will announce the original trilogy this Tuesday, February 10th, as a four-disc box set due on September 21st. We contacted Lucasfilm to see what truth there is to the story, who replied that they have made "No official announcement" of a release, and Fox Home Entertainment has no comment. So until Tuesday, expect message forums across the world to continue to rage, and watch this space for an update as soon as we get any further information.

oooh, four whole discs for three movies!  wow, dont hurt yourself there lucasfilm.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Find Your Magali on February 06, 2004, 08:17:21 AM
Well, from the sales of the Indiana Jones boxset, I guess they now see that a limited amount of extras is all you need for massive sales. I mean, they already KNOW it will be one of the best-selling DVD sets of all-time, so why knock themselves out?

(I'm speaking from their viewpoint, certainly not mine.)
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on February 10, 2004, 01:09:55 AM
The Star Wars Trilogy on DVD September 21
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

"Star Wars Trilogy," one of the most-requested DVD episodic film franchises, is expected to be released as a four-disc DVD box set Sept. 21, with a global rollout on DVD expected within days of the domestic release, according to Lucasfilm Ltd. and 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment.

The trilogy featuring the classic franchise films "Star Wars," "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi" will be released on three DVD discs, with a fourth disc likely to hold a newly made documentary about the "Star Wars" franchise and never-before-seen footage, among several other bonus materials, said Jim Ward, Lucasfilm's vp marketing and distribution and the DVD trilogy's executive producer.
 
"We are currently in the process of restoring and remastering all three titles for the DVD release, so we're still working on details of the marketing strategy," Ward said. "But I believe that it is safe to say that it will receive tremendous exposure across all media."

Lucasfilm and Fox chose the September release date to maximize on holiday gift buying during the Thanksgiving and Christmas seasons, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment president Mike Dunn said.

"We sold about 17 million VHS 'Star Wars' units during two fall release periods in '95 and '97," he said. "With that in mind, we designed our release strategy to pick the best release date that had the most gentle sales curve decline on home video, and that's how we got to the September release date."

Combining huge consumer demand for the "Star Wars" franchise with being first out of the gate during the busy fourth-quarter home video market, Fox and Lucasfilm are hoping to cash in on DVD sales throughout the holidays and up until the theatrical release of "Star Wars: Episode III," which set for release nationwide May, 25, 2005, Dunn and Ward said.

Each of the three films in the "Star Wars Trilogy" has been digitally restored and remastered by THX for sound and picture quality, Ward said.

"First and foremost, the DVDs will deliver the very best possible sound and picture and take advantage of everything the medium can offer," Ward said. "On top of that, we are creating added-value material that gets inside the creation of the 'Star Wars' films in a fresh and fun way. We want watching this DVD collection to be as memorable as seeing the movies for the first time."

The films of the "Star Wars Trilogy" will be sold exclusively as a collection at a still-to-be-determined retail price and not separately, Fox executives said. However, retailers have been known to break up collector's DVD box sets and sell individual titles after the first month out on store shelves.
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After years of waiting, hype and hope, the rumors can at last be laid to rest: the holy grail of DVD will finally be released this September. Yes, it is the original Star Wars trilogy: Episodes IV: A New Hope, Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back and Episode VI: Return of the Jedi.

While a full press release has yet to be issued, both Lucasfilm and Fox Home Entertainment confirmed today that the trilogy will touch down on September 21st as a four-disc set, available in both anamorphic widescreen and full screen versions, containing the three films plus a bonus fourth disc with extras, a la the top-selling Adventures of Indiana Jones set released late last year. The films will not be sold separately, at least initially, according to Fox representatives.

While the long-held rumor was that George Lucas would wait until the completion of Star Wars Episode III, due in theaters in May 2005, to release the original trilogy on DVD, Lucasfilm VP of Market Jim Ward revealed today that Lucas "found some time" in his schedule and "was willing and eager to make it happen."

Today's announcement came early and without finalized specs due in part to the intense anticipation amongst consumers for the titles. "We are currently in the process of restoring and remastering all three titles for the DVD release, so we're still working on details of the marketing strategy," revealed Ward, not before adding with knowing understatement, "but I believe that it is safe to say that it will receive tremendous exposure across all media."

According to Fox Home Entertainment president Mike Dunn, both the studio and Lucasfilm arrived at the September 21st date to gain maximum exposure during the holiday season: "We sold about 17 million VHS 'Star Wars' units during two fall release periods in '95 and '97," he explained. "With that in mind, we designed our release strategy to pick the best release date that had the most gentle sales curve decline on home video."

While the full details on what extras will be included in the set are still pending, Ward promises that Lucasfilm "are creating added-value material that gets inside the creation of the 'Star Wars' films in a fresh and fun way. We want watching this DVD collection to be as memorable as seeing the movies for the first time." He also confirmed that rumors that Lucas would not contribute new audio commentaries to the set are false, although there are as of yet no exact details on which films will receive commentary tracks, and who will be among the participants.

Of course, the big question mark amongst fans has always been whether Lucas would allow the original, unaltered original editions of the trilogy to also be released on DVD. Not possible, said Ward, who confirmed that the upcoming set will feature only the 1997 Special Edition versions of each film. "What George did in 1997," Ward explains, "was [to] make the movie he originally wanted to make."

So what are the faithful to do if they don't want to watch the altered 1997 editions of the trilogy? Either give in, or don't buy. "We realize there's a lot of debate out there," says Ward. "But this is not a democracy. We love our fans, but this is about art and filmmaking. [George] has decided that the sole version he wants available is this one."
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Pedro on February 10, 2004, 01:11:00 AM
oh chit
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cron on February 10, 2004, 02:23:09 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Jim Ward


that's also the name of Sparta's leadsinger, innit?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ravi on February 10, 2004, 10:29:07 AM
I guess I should buy those Asian bootleg DVDs if I want the originals.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: A Matter Of Chance on February 13, 2004, 01:34:22 PM
The new Entertainment Weekly (#752) says:

The 4 disc Star Wars DVD set will compromise the 1997 special-edition versions (now on VHS), and will rename the original 1977 film Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope.

Not sure if this has been posted yet, just thought I'd give it a try.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on February 21, 2004, 10:42:08 AM
Quote from: Ravi
I guess I should buy those Asian bootleg DVDs if I want the originals.


are these the ones that were taken from the laserdisc versions?
i'm guessing they're high quality, widescreen?
did laserdisc have 5.1? i totally missed the laserdisc boat, so if it's a dumb question, sorry.

does anyone else hate the new ending to RotJ? i love the song that ended it before, "celebrate the love"(?i think?), but the SE had a totally different song and ending
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Redlum on February 21, 2004, 10:55:44 AM
Quote from: bigideas

does anyone else hate the new ending to RotJ? i love the song that ended it before, "celebrate the love"(?i think?), but the SE had a totally different song and ending

Yep. Hate is a strong word but it definately seemed the most senseless modification in the SE's.

Star Wars never was much of a childhood movie for me. Back to the Future and Indy were my trilogies and Im sure any nostalgia I may have felt has been obliterated by recent travesties.

...but then I just think of that moment where Luke gazes upon the horizon with two moons and the Williams score just creeps in and I wonder...
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Find Your Magali on February 21, 2004, 11:03:03 AM
I actually prefer the new SE ending to Return of the Jedi. ... That third movie was sloppy in so many ways, including the ending with the Ewoks. Far better, I think, to capture the sense of victory and celebration across all of the planets, rather than have one shindig around a campfire. And the new score works for me, too. But maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on February 21, 2004, 12:09:22 PM
I like the new ending, but hate the new song.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Find Your Magali on February 21, 2004, 12:23:18 PM
Maybe there's still time to get Annie Lennox to sing something.

"Into the Galaxy..." or somesuch ditty.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on February 29, 2004, 11:47:15 PM
The folks over at KamuiWeb has scored shots of the upcoming packaging for the Classic Star Wars films on DVD this fall, this of course is one of the most-requested DVD episodic film franchises. There looks to be several different versions of the boxed set, including The Final Conflict, Light Side vs. Dark Side and The Imperial Collection. The four-disc DVD box set is due out Sept. 21.

The Final Conflict:
(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cmchampionnat/DVDOT1_kw.jpg)

Jedi vs Darkside:
(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cmchampionnat/DVDOT3_kw.jpg)

The Imperial Collection:
(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cmchampionnat/DVDOT2_kw.jpg)
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SiliasRuby on March 01, 2004, 12:40:03 AM
Those Boxes look great. Thanks for the information Mac.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on March 01, 2004, 12:42:47 AM
argh, same sets, different packagings!  hate decisions!  first reservoir dogs, now this?!?  boxes look great though.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Pedro on March 01, 2004, 01:06:30 AM
imperial collection is the sleekest
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on March 01, 2004, 10:29:51 AM
Quote from: themodernage02
argh, same sets, different packagings!  hate decisions!  first reservoir dogs, now this?!?  boxes look great though.


Not quite the same situation. Only one of these will be released. And I'm betting these are just prototypes, the finished product will most likely be very different.

That said, I liked the first one the best.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: bonanzataz on March 02, 2004, 09:07:06 PM
those pictures is gone now...

and my original cut star wars lasers look and sound great on my new hdtv!
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on March 02, 2004, 11:43:46 PM
Quote from: taz.
those pictures is gone now...


Updated...

Source: Digital Bits
First of all, we've spoken with those in the know (the right people, you'll have to trust us on this) and have learned that the Star Wars DVD box art that's been circulating around lately is "work in progress" ONLY stuff that should NEVER have leaked on the Net. These are apparently very early concepts - stuff that we weren't meant to see - and the final packaging is likely to be quite different. This kind of thing happens all the time - that a company working on marketing designs for packaging, or even poster or cover art, will do many, many different concepts as they hone in on the final design. So while these packages are sort of the real deal, they're really not if you get our meaning. Anyway, that's the unofficially official word - take it as you will. We will, of course, post the final box art as soon as it's released by Lucasfilm and 20th Century Fox.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: hoichi_the_earless on March 10, 2004, 10:45:18 PM
I don't mine the Jedi .vs. Dark Side packaging, only if they didn't use AOTC Yoda on it...you should see Yoda as is is in ESB.  Anyone agree?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on March 18, 2004, 03:30:47 PM
From The Digital Bits:

Yeah, we know this is going to get some people's undies in a bunch again... but we can say with some confidence now that when Lucasfilm and Fox release the Star Wars Trilogy on DVD in September, the films ARE going to include new footage. We've confirmed "unofficially" with three separate sources, each in positions to know, that at least SOME new footage is being added to the films, and that more special effects enhancements, tweaks and fixes are being done. We're also told that Lucasfilm MAY include additional deleted scenes for the trilogy on the bonus disc, separate from the material added into the films themselves (rather like they've done with Episodes I & II). We've been told of at least a few changes that are being made, but we're going to wait to confirm them better before we post anything. Keep in mind that we have no idea how extensive or minor the whole of the additions and changes will be. Hopefully, we'll learn more from Lucasfilm in the near future.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on March 18, 2004, 04:55:44 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
From The Digital Bits:

Yeah, we know this is going to get some people's undies in a bunch again... but we can say with some confidence now that when Lucasfilm and Fox release the Star Wars Trilogy on DVD in September, the films ARE going to include new footage. We've confirmed "unofficially" with three separate sources, each in positions to know, that at least SOME new footage is being added to the films, and that more special effects enhancements, tweaks and fixes are being done. We're also told that Lucasfilm MAY include additional deleted scenes for the trilogy on the bonus disc, separate from the material added into the films themselves (rather like they've done with Episodes I & II). We've been told of at least a few changes that are being made, but we're going to wait to confirm them better before we post anything. Keep in mind that we have no idea how extensive or minor the whole of the additions and changes will be. Hopefully, we'll learn more from Lucasfilm in the near future.


Count me in as one of the soon-to-speak-their-minds "Oh, fuck"-people.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: grand theft sparrow on March 18, 2004, 08:38:17 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
From The Digital Bits:

Yeah, we know this is going to get some people's undies in a bunch again... but we can say with some confidence now that when Lucasfilm and Fox release the Star Wars Trilogy on DVD in September, the films ARE going to include new footage. We've confirmed "unofficially" with three separate sources, each in positions to know, that at least SOME new footage is being added to the films, and that more special effects enhancements, tweaks and fixes are being done. We're also told that Lucasfilm MAY include additional deleted scenes for the trilogy on the bonus disc, separate from the material added into the films themselves (rather like they've done with Episodes I & II). We've been told of at least a few changes that are being made, but we're going to wait to confirm them better before we post anything. Keep in mind that we have no idea how extensive or minor the whole of the additions and changes will be. Hopefully, we'll learn more from Lucasfilm in the near future.



(http://yuweb.addr.com/v63i3/features/cartfront.jpg)

I... am... so... pissed... off... right... now... you guys.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: moonshiner on March 18, 2004, 10:51:30 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
We've confirmed "unofficially" with three separate sources, each in positions to know, that at least SOME new footage is being added to the films


i'm going to say one thing on this, people would love and embrace all this extra stuff if George Lucas was a beloved sci-fi writer and the Star Wars books were classics long before the movie...obviously this is not the case, and nobody cares about Lucas' determination to perfect a work of art that has, in essence, become a commercial steamroller...

i meant everything i said except the part about only saying one thing on the matter, and the part about nobody caring about what Lucas does
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: grand theft sparrow on March 19, 2004, 11:17:21 AM
Lucas:Star Wars :: Michael Jackson:his face.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on March 19, 2004, 11:50:38 AM
Quote from: hacksparrow
Lucas:Star Wars :: Michael Jackson:his face.

I'm jotting that one down for any future SATs.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on March 21, 2004, 06:07:46 PM
Final artwork for the box set.

Widescreen:
(http://www.dvdfile.com/images/box_art/packaging/starwars/trilogy/ws_back.jpg)________(http://www.dvdfile.com/images/box_art/packaging/starwars/trilogy/ws_front.jpg)

Full screen:
(http://www.dvdfile.com/images/box_art/packaging/starwars/trilogy/ff_back.jpg)_________(http://www.dvdfile.com/images/box_art/packaging/starwars/trilogy/ff_front.jpg)
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Banky on March 21, 2004, 06:59:41 PM
thats hot
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: El Duderino on March 21, 2004, 07:04:26 PM
wow...especially the side with vader
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ravi on March 21, 2004, 07:22:18 PM
Shouldn't the gold one be widescreen?  Gold is better.

BTW, anyone see the Lucas parody on The Simpsons tonight?  "I'll just go back to copying westerns and samurai movies!"
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SHAFTR on March 21, 2004, 07:53:04 PM
Quote from: Ravi
Shouldn't the gold one be widescreen?  Gold is better.
!"


Maybe it's platinum.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on March 21, 2004, 07:57:50 PM
Quote from: SHAFTR
Quote from: Ravi
Shouldn't the gold one be widescreen?  Gold is better.

Maybe it's platinum.

Yeah, that was my guess too, actually.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on March 21, 2004, 08:25:27 PM
..nah the gold one is tacky...........but that silver vader is killer.. :!:
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Stefen on March 21, 2004, 08:27:57 PM
I think it's funny that we've all just come to terms with fullscreen dvd's. Two years ago i couldn't beleive that they were releasing dvds in fullscreen cause I felt dvd was supposed to be for movie lovers, but again the masses got ahold of something I liked.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: ono on March 21, 2004, 08:32:57 PM
They should really just fucking stop releasing fullscreen DVDs.  Let the idiots fade away in the glorious splendor of natural selection, and the smart ones figure out that, hey, THIS is the way movies are supposed to be.  But WTF am I doing in a Star Wars thread anyway?  *goes to read more about Eternal Sunshine...*
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on March 22, 2004, 05:12:33 AM
That box is so damn beautiful. Sooo damn beautiful. The concept art Vader image is breathtaking.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: moonshiner on March 22, 2004, 08:06:02 AM
it will be mine, oh yes, it will be mine...

great packaging, what the dvd is all about, so glad to not be force fed 1 thru 3 just to get the real Star Wars' movies
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: grand theft sparrow on March 22, 2004, 09:23:20 AM
Quote from: Onomatopoeia
They should really just fucking stop releasing fullscreen DVDs.  Let the idiots fade away in the glorious splendor of natural selection, and the smart ones figure out that, hey, THIS is the way movies are supposed to be.  But WTF am I doing in a Star Wars thread anyway?  *goes to read more about Eternal Sunshine...*


Don't worry.  Those morons buying fullscreen will be crying when they get their widescreen TVs in a couple of years and complain that "the black bars are on the sides now."  

...and the sound of a hundred million geeks laughing will rise above the cities...
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on March 31, 2004, 03:25:07 PM
Special Features:

Disc 1: Star Wars: A New Hope IV
Feature Film: Star Wars: A New Hope IV
Commentary by George Lucas, Ben Burtt, Dennis Muren, and Carrie Fisher

Disc 2: The Empire Strikes Back V
Feature Film: The Empire Strikes Back V
Commentary by George Lucas, Irvin Kershner, Lawrence Kasdan, Ben Burtt, Dennis Muren and Carrie Fisher

Disc 3: Return of the Jedi VI
Feature Film: Return of the Jedi VI
Commentary by George Lucas, Lawrence Kasdan, Ben Burtt, Dennis Muren, and Carrie Fisher

Disc 4: Bonus Disc includes the most comprehensive feature-length documentary ever produced on the Star Wars saga
and never-before-seen footage from the making of all three films, and much more.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on March 31, 2004, 10:50:02 PM
has George stated recently that the original versions of the films will never be released to DVD?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Myxo on April 03, 2004, 11:04:06 AM
Quote from: Cinephile
Final artwork for the box set.


I wonder how much better Lucas' prequel films would have been had he let somebody else direct them as he did with Episode 5 & 6.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on April 04, 2004, 05:25:22 PM
A great great April fools joke: http://www.ugo.com/channels/dvd/features/starwarstrilogy/
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on April 06, 2004, 02:08:50 PM
Source: Digital Bits

We have even more detailed information from retail sources this morning on the content to be included on Disc Four of the Star Wars Trilogy (due 9/21). According to FYE, the disc will include:

Star Wars: The Independent Films feature length documentary - The story of Star Wars is the story of the most successful independent series film ever produced. It's the story of a Hollywood outsider named George Lucas and a low-budget labor of love space saga that defied the odds and reinvented the rules. It's the story of a revolution born of a dream. It's the story of an independent filmmaker who had to innovate and invent an entirely new way of creating motion pictures. It's the story of a fundamental paradigm shift in the creative process made, not by the studio system, but by a single filmmaker with a simple dream. (150 min.)

The Evolution of Characters featurette - Get an in-depth look at how all your favorite characters came to be with exclusive concept art and discussion with George and the people who shaped what ultimately became out favorite heroes and villains. Includes a separate still/video gallery cut to Star Wars music with access to artwork and classic scenes for each major character. (30 min.)

The Influence of Star Wars featurette - Without Star Wars, there would be no... The groundbreaking special effects that were pioneered to make Star Wars movies not only helped viewers escape to a galaxy far, far away, but they changed the way every movie was made thereafter. Experience never before seen effects innovations from the films and learn how pivotal the films were to modern effects wizards and filmmakers. (20 min.)

Lightsabers/Fights featurette - Forget laser pistols, the lightsaber is the coolest weapon in the Star Wars galaxy. What were George's influences for creating the lightsaber? How did Mark Hamill, Alec Guiness, and Darth Vader stunt people approach wielding a saber? How did the effects guys figure out the lightsaber beam? How did each fight escalate from the previous one? And what influences did this creation have on movies thereafter? (10 min.)

1977 Featurette - Transport people back in time to the opening of each Star Wars film. Menus will showcase all the pop culture features from the 1977 opening such as: TV references, toy ads, promotional partner commercials, news clips, songs inspired by Star Wars, Star Wars magazine and newspaper coverage, classic video game demos. (20 min.)

Star Wars Battlefront X-Box Video Game Demo (15 min.)

Teasers and Trailers from the original theatrical releases of each of the movies along with the 1997 re-releases. (15 min.)

TV Spots from the original theatrical releases of the movies along with the 1997 re-releases (5 min.)
Episode III Behind the Scenes Preview
Section One - The Creator: Finally the birth of Vader. George talks about finally bringing Vader back to the series and teases about Anakin's descent to the Dark Side and the powers of seduction in play. Section Two - The Costume: Black is back. For the last Star Wars movie ever and the birth of the ultimate villain, a new costume was forged. This segment answers some key questions: who created it? was it made for Hayden? Section Three - The Actors: Finally I get to become Vader. Key interviews with the cast (including Hayden) and crew sharing their thoughts and experiences about working on the last Star Wars film and finally seeing the completion of the Saga. (10 min.)

Stills - A comprehensive gallery of posters from around the world, classic artwork, and never-before-seen photos from all three films (approximately 300 images.)

DVD-ROM Features - DVD ROM link to exclusive Star Wars website.

So there you go... certainly sounds interesting. By the way, each of the movie discs will also reportedly include a credit roll Easter egg. Just so you know, all of this does jive what we've heard from other retailers recently, so it sounds like the real deal. Throw in the audio commentaries we've reported on previously, and you've got a nice little package.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: RegularKarate on April 06, 2004, 02:17:36 PM
Quote from: Digital Bits

The Influence of Star Wars featurette - Without Star Wars, there would be no... The groundbreaking special effects that were pioneered to make Star Wars movies not only helped viewers escape to a galaxy far, far away, but they changed the way every movie was made thereafter... (20 min.)


Are they seriously going to do a piece on the special effects that they drew over?  what the fuck?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on April 07, 2004, 09:30:08 PM
http://www.dvdtown.com/review/Star_Wards__A_New_Hype/12083/2038/

Everyone read this.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: El Duderino on April 07, 2004, 10:27:05 PM
hah...that's great
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ravi on April 09, 2004, 04:01:35 PM
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html

(http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx2/esbpalpatine.jpg)

That top image is, supposedly, an actual shot of Ian McDiarmid as Emperor Palpatine, newly inserted into The Empire Strikes Back in place of the original actor (bottom image). This pic has been circulating around the Net for a few days now. The split screen comparison you see here was created by someone on one of the Star Wars fan boards (click here for the original post of the image, along with endless fan debate (http://www.toochilled.com/episode-x/boards/viewtopic.php?p=39187&highlight=#39187)). But the image at the top (at least the actual face shot of McDiarmid) reportedly leaked from someone involved with the production. We had pretty much dismissed it... BUT. The interesting thing is, we've shown this image to insiders we know have seen the real work (three separate sources now), and they've independently confirmed that the scene HAS changed and that the top image (of McDiarmid in make-up) is authentic. One other scene we've heard is being revamped is the CGI Jabba scene from A New Hope. Look for the digital Jabba to be replaced by a much better looking CG version (likely based on the Episode I digital model of the character).

Tell you what... if this pans out, I don't mind either of these changes. Better still, I'd eat a whole freakin' herd of Bantha if Lucas would just restore the Han/Greedo scene in A New Hope so that Han shoots first again. Anyone care to join me? Cross your fingers, folks... and fire up the barbecue pit.

By the way, we've also been told by sources that the list of Trilogy 4th disc DVD extras circulated by FYE, Best Buy and other online retailers recently (and reported here by The Bits) is "not entirely correct". Like that original prototype DVD packaging from a few weeks ago, it looks like this WAS an early spec list for the disc, but it's not the final one. Hopefully, we'll get official details in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: grand theft sparrow on April 12, 2004, 11:53:17 AM
You know... the original Emperor in Empire... that wrinkly eye of his always freaked me out.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on April 12, 2004, 05:16:33 PM
Quote from: hacksparrow
You know... the original Emperor in Empire... that wrinkly eye of his always freaked me out.


Funny, those are monkey eyes, superimposed over an old woman's face.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on April 12, 2004, 11:43:17 PM
Really? That's awesome...looking at the still above, I can see it. I always just thought it was the actor (Clive Revill) in makeup.

I try to keep an open mind about these things, but that Ian McDiarmid version looks ridiculous. His old-age makeup in that shot looks about as convincing as Yoda did in Episode 1. His makeup in Return Of The Jedi was amazing...I didn't even know until Episode 1 was in production that he was a young guy wearing makeup.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on April 20, 2004, 07:46:15 AM
Fox have now released the final details on the Star Wars Trilogy which will be arriving this September. Firstly, we can confirm that each of the films will be presented in 2.35:1 anamorphic widescreen, along with English Dolby Digital 5.1 EX, English Dolby Surround, Spanish Dolby Surround and French Dolby Surround tracks. Each will be THX Certified, with the transfers remastered by the folks at Lowry Digital Images. As for extras, A New Hope will include a commentary by George Lucas, sound designer Ben Burtt, Industrial Light & Magic's Dennis Muren and actress Carrie Fisher. Empire Strikes Back will include commentary by George Lucas, director Irvin Kershner, Lawrence Kasdan, Ben Burtt, Dennis Muren and Carrie Fisher, and Return of the Jedi will include a commentary by George Lucas, Lawrence Kasdan, Ben Burtt, Dennis Muren and Carrie Fisher. We've attached further details on the fourth disc below:


Empire of Dreams: The Story of the Star Wars Trilogy
This two-and-a-half hour documentary traces the evolution of the saga, from a low-budget labor-of-love space saga to the movie phenomenon that defied the odds and reinvented the rules. This comprehensive documentary features all new interviews with George Lucas and more than 40 members of the cast and crew from the original trilogy, as well as a host of filmmakers and media personalities. Empire of Dreams also includes some never-before-seen behind-the-scenes footage from the making of all three of the now legendary Star Wars films.

Episode III Behind the Scenes Preview: The Return of Darth Vader
Finally, Star Wars: Episode III will reveal just how Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader, the most iconic villain in film history. In this exclusive preview, George Lucas discusses Anakin's descent, with a first look at the new Vader costume forged for Episode III. Also, experience how Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor have prepared for the epic lightsaber battle that has been anticipated for more than two decades: the climactic showdown between Anakin and Obi-Wan Kenobi.

The Birth of the Lightsaber Featurette
Its unforgettable hum and scintillating glow are instantly recognizable around the world. Now, viewers will discover the origins of this elegant weapon from a more civilized age in this lightsaber documentary.

The Characters of Star Wars Featurette
An in-depth look at how favorite characters came to be, featuring rare concept art, behind-the-scenes footage and interviews with George Lucas and the cast and crew who shaped the screen's favorite heroes.

The Force Is With Them: The Legacy of Star Wars
The Star Wars films opened up a galaxy of possibilities to a generation of filmmakers and creative talents. This feature allows you to hear from some of the most notable filmmakers of our time about how influential the Star Wars movies have been to their lives and work.

Star Wars Battlefront Trailer and Playable Demo
The fourth disc will offer a trailer featuring an exciting look at the upcoming Star Wars Battlefront video game from LucasArts, along with a special demo for Xbox users that lets players fight the Battle of Endor as a Rebel or Imperial soldier and drive AT-STs, ride speeder bikes and use different weapons to lead their side to victory. The full version of Star Wars Battlefront be released Sept. 21 for the PlayStation 2, Xbox, and PC.

Star Wars: Episode III Making the Game Preview
Video-game players will be able to experience the stunning Jedi action of Episode III themselves in the new Star Wars: Episode III game, due out in Spring 2005 for the PlayStation 2 and Xbox. This special feature shows how game developers at LucasArts worked behind-the-scenes and on the set to create the most authentic Jedi experience ever.

Original Trailers and TV Spots
You can expect the original theatrical teaser, launch and re-release trailers for each of the films, plus TV spots, to be featured on the DVD.

Never-Before-Seen Production Gallery
Delve into an unseen corners of the Lucasfilm Archives with exclusive photos from the making of the trilogy, with hundreds of rare images.

Posters and Print Campaigns
The original Star Wars films came at a time when international campaigns produced a wealth of intriguing, alternative poster art. Explore a collection of theatrical posters from around the world.

Exclusive DVD-ROM Content
The Star Wars Trilogy DVDs are keys that unlock exclusive content available only through a special DVD-ROM website.
 

.. Only FIVE months away....... :multi:
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on April 20, 2004, 05:25:18 PM
Quote from: Cinephile
Episode III Behind the Scenes Preview: The Return of Darth Vader
Finally, Star Wars: Episode III will reveal just how Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader, the most iconic villain in film history. In this exclusive preview, George Lucas discusses Anakin's descent, with a first look at the new Vader costume forged for Episode III. Also, experience how Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor have prepared for the epic lightsaber battle that has been anticipated for more than two decades: the climactic showdown between Anakin and Obi-Wan Kenobi.

i really hate how they always do this.  and i cant believe theyre actually doing this for this set.  making us wait all these years for a 'definitive set' and then fucking dating it so badly with some lame 5 minute EPK for the new film which will be obsolete the minute the movie comes out and belong nowhere but on the episode 3 disc.  unless they were doing a short special on the life of all the prequels (which woudl still be unneccesary) this is lame.   also funny how theyre giving us a version of the films we've never seen before.  (did they really think that star wars geeks honestly wouldnt notice further changes?  like, all they do is live these movies.  did they really think swapping the emperor out wasnt going to make waves?)   now that i've got my complaining done, i cant wait to buy this.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on April 20, 2004, 06:12:48 PM
I'm surprised that Carrie Fisher is the only member of the cast involved. I'm sure Mark Hammil would have had nothing better to do on the day they recorded these.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on April 20, 2004, 10:58:30 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy
I'm sure Mark Hammil would have had nothing better to do on the day they recorded these.

fine by me cuz i think he has one of the most annoying voices on the planet. he sounds like lars ulrich on speed or something.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on April 21, 2004, 10:47:02 PM
changing the Emperor will make it more noticeable than the original. i never even realized it wasn't the same actor. the face is covered in shadow. does (did) it ever seem out of place to you?

i wonder if Hayden C will lip synch to James Earl Jones then?
=)

well, i guess he would only sound like JEJ if he puts on the helmet in Ep. III
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Raikus on April 21, 2004, 11:10:22 PM
Quote from: mogwai
fine by me cuz i think he has one of the most annoying voices on the planet. he sounds like lars ulrich on speed or something.

That man is a phenominal voice talent. Check out his IMDB info. I would prefer is he talked like Joker from Batman: The Animated Series all the time though.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on April 22, 2004, 12:55:31 PM
Quote from: plasmatron
Quote from: Ghostboy
I'm sure Mark Hammil would have had nothing better to do on the day they recorded these.

fine by me cuz i think he has one of the most annoying voices on the planet. he sounds like lars ulrich on speed or something.


hahahaha....i feel the same way.......he has a whiny(wine-ey), nasaly sounding voice.........i actually wish there was a Jawa commentary track...w/ r2d2 and c3po..now, that would be hilarious, thought-provoking , and opedial-like in a machina way......
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Find Your Magali on April 23, 2004, 10:40:32 AM
If they were REALLY ballsy, there would be the "After the Kids Have Gone to Bed Kevin Smith Commentary Track."

I mean, really, if Lord of the Rings can have four commentary tracks per movie, why the heck can't the original Star Wars trilogy???
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on April 23, 2004, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: Find Your Magali
If they were REALLY ballsy,

they would have a Greedo commentary track.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Find Your Magali on April 23, 2004, 11:07:55 AM
Or an original Errol Morris documentary entitled "The Thin Green Line," which traces the history of who shoots first in the cantina scene. Talking with other denizens of the bar who originally witnessed the incident, piercing interviews with an old, washed-up Han about his intentions and actions, riveting Philip Glass score, and then a vindicating final scene in which Lucas, on audio tape, breaks down and admits that he altered history and that Han really did gun down innocent Greedo, and got away with it.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on April 23, 2004, 12:24:09 PM
:laughing2:
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on May 22, 2004, 03:29:39 PM
Quote from: Onomatopita
They should really just fucking stop releasing fullscreen DVDs.  Let the idiots fade away in the glorious splendor of natural selection, and the smart ones figure out that, hey, THIS is the way movies are supposed to be.  But WTF am I doing in a Star Wars thread anyway?  *goes to read more about Eternal Sunshine...*


I agree with you on the fullscreen thing, and was just about to post something on it.

Who prefers full over wide?  The people it realy matters to prefer wide anyway (or at least that's what I've noticed).

I also agree with the Star Wars to Eteranl Sunshine transition.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on May 23, 2004, 02:34:53 AM
So anyway, Ono's post was from 2 months ago...
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on May 23, 2004, 03:22:38 PM
Source: AICN

A peek at what you can expect when the STAR WARS trilogy hits DVD this fall. I don’t think the image requires much explanation, especially since message boards all over the Internet have been jammed with rumors about this particular change. You'd be wise to save this one to your desktops and redistribute it to friends in case it... ahem... mysteriously vanishes from here. Consider this your first official verification of that rumor:

(http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx2/jedichanges.jpg)

Source: Digital Bits

I imagine by now many of you have seen the altered Return of the Jedi DVD screen shot posted yesterday over on Ain't it Cool News. While some sources are still hedging their bets... yes, we can confirm that this is authentic. It IS one of many changes that are being made to the original Star Wars films for the September 21st DVD release.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Derek on May 23, 2004, 03:47:05 PM
I don't really care anymore. I imagine we'll see Hayden's face when Vaders' mask is lifted at the end of Jedi as well.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on May 23, 2004, 05:30:39 PM
Quote from: Cinephile
So anyway, Ono's post was from 2 months ago...


So?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Derek on June 20, 2004, 02:54:13 PM
http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?r=0&s=1&c=4175&n=1&burl=

I don't know why they had to come up with new, crappy artwork. They could have used the original release paintings or at least the special edition posters, which were pretty cool.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on June 22, 2004, 10:55:11 AM
Quote from: Derek
http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?r=0&s=1&c=4175&n=1&burl=

I don't know why they had to come up with new, crappy artwork. They could have used the original release paintings or at least the special edition posters, which were pretty cool.

because then they would have to pay Drew Struzan a quarter for every dvd sold, and as episodes I and II's ultra shitty artwork has proven, they arent willing to do that.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on June 22, 2004, 10:59:52 AM
Three or four years from now, a big 12 disc set will come out with good artwork, a new interview with George Lucas (perhaps Leonard Maltin will do the honors again), and maybe, just maybe, the non-special editions (although they might wait closer to ten years for that). So I'm just gonna hold my horses and not complain because Lucasfilm ain't listening.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Sleepless on June 25, 2004, 05:25:09 PM
Surely the DVD boxset everyone was expecting - and surely, the one they want - it the original trilogy as it was when the world first saw it. Not of these new versions Lucas keeps coming up with. All we want is the proper three movies the world fell in love with - tidy up the picture and sound for sure. And then add on as many true special features as possible. This should be commemorating the greatness of the original trilogy. Not changing it.

Ah, but what am I saying. This is Lucas. Was to be expected. The world wishes he'd spent more time trying to make Ep3 into a decent film, rather than ruining the few things he's responsible for which never needed to be retouched.

Quote from: hacksparrow
Lucas:Star Wars :: Michael Jackson:his face.


Sadly, the truest thing you've ever said.  :)
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on July 11, 2004, 08:15:19 AM
(http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v347/walker324/LeiaComparison.jpg)
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Sleepless on July 11, 2004, 12:05:48 PM
The French version is obviously widescreen then, and they've chopped off a bit from the bottom and the top to stick those stupid black bars there instead!!  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on July 17, 2004, 10:37:52 PM
phucking killer ........exspecially the a new hope ......thats one of my favorite parts in the film.were young luke ponders his destiny against the backdrop of a sunset sky w/ a bonus second sun also or they could be both moons or two moons.but suffice to say they are two celestial bodies in the sky as the the score turns and burns loud and serene. and swells...i know this was a geeky thing to say....but i m a phucking loser........
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on July 17, 2004, 10:45:24 PM
no, you're right. that is an amazing scene.

so who actually owns DVD boots of the laserdiscs or knows how to get them?
i'm really interested in seeing the original versions in widescreen.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Redlum on July 18, 2004, 05:40:28 AM
Yeah, that's the best scene in A New Hope.

...still won't be getting these though. Tape is just fine.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on July 18, 2004, 02:09:03 PM
Quote from: bigideas
no, you're right. that is an amazing scene.

so who actually owns DVD boots of the laserdiscs or knows how to get them?
i'm really interested in seeing the original versions in widescreen.


There's a really nice package on ebay, that claims to have an hour-long documentary as well. The cover is made to look like an entry to the Fox Five Star Collection, and for a bootleg it actually looks attractive.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on July 25, 2004, 07:31:00 AM
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Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on July 25, 2004, 08:44:12 PM
phucking beautiful!!!! thanks  for the pics mog.............



and  i love your av also.........

wheres that R1 one dvd????................... :(
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: picolas on July 25, 2004, 09:12:19 PM
thanks for the glancatar.

i really hayde that Hayden thing. it doesn't make any sense! you can't be a teenage force-ghost unless you became one with it as a teen, right?! i mean.. you can't die and be good when you're dying and then Death turns around and goes "hmmmm... you deserve a force-ghost because you redeemed yourself and killed the Emporer and saved your son.. but y'know? you were really more one with the force when you were a teenager. i really should've just taken you earlier. sorry. fuck that whole thing. here's your old body."

and how the FUCK does Luke even know who that is?!?!!?! he can't. he's probably just smiling now because it's so awkward to all of a sudden see this new force ghost from out of nowhere.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on July 25, 2004, 11:12:32 PM
Quote from: NEON MERCURY
and  i love your av also.........

wheres that R1 one dvd????................... :(

i found my avie (http://207.136.67.23/film/DVDReview/losthighwayr4.htm) here (great site btw). don't know anything about a new r1 dvd.
Quote from: picolas
and how the FUCK does Luke even know who that is?!?!!?! he can't. he's probably just smiling now because it's so awkward to all of a sudden see this new force ghost from out of nowhere.

ask lucasiano that, but it's likely that he'll pull you down in the shit he has created. he can't change history now but he's going to fool the 3rd/4th generation of star wars fans. when people are going to see episode 3, some will revisit that scene. lame.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Myxo on July 26, 2004, 01:15:21 AM
I love this thread..

Nothing like xixax.com to have a thread called, "Original Star Wars Trilogy never to be released on DVD" and we're all talking about the upcoming release.

LOL

On a totally unrealted note, I watched Dune last night.

Boy that movie sure is a fuck up, eh Lynch?

He's recovered nicely though.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: RegularKarate on July 26, 2004, 01:06:54 PM
the original WILL never be released... haven't you read the...?

fuck it
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on July 26, 2004, 01:16:53 PM
He probably thinks the Special Edition versions released in 1997 were the Originals.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cron on July 26, 2004, 01:25:29 PM
and so do millions of children all over the world.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on July 26, 2004, 02:02:27 PM
Quote from: picolas
i really hayde that Hayden thing. it doesn't make any sense! you can't be a teenage force-ghost unless you became one with it as a teen, right?


Explanation and Episode III spoiler:

He actually dies in Episode III.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on July 26, 2004, 02:08:06 PM
why did i read the spoiler? god damn it.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on July 26, 2004, 02:12:55 PM
I know the feeling  :(  That's exactly the reason that thing right there is the only thing I know about Episode III.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on July 27, 2004, 10:51:15 PM
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Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: grand theft sparrow on July 28, 2004, 11:06:07 AM
Quote from: mogwai
*the still of C3PO and R2D2*


Was there anything new in that?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on July 28, 2004, 01:12:00 PM
^

R2-D2 shoots first.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Derek on July 28, 2004, 05:15:12 PM
I think I like the other, shittier looking Jabba better.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: meatball on September 06, 2004, 05:21:46 PM
George Lucas must really despise his original theatrical releases of Star Wars.

Here's a link showing all the tweaks he made for the DVD release.

http://free.hostdepartment.com/s/starwarstrilogydvd/main.html
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on September 07, 2004, 11:05:18 PM
Star Wars Trilogy

Space opera – 1977
20th Century Fox, SF

Reviewed by Kristoffer Larsson

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away … At last the time has come for probably the biggest and most sought-after release in the history of dvd: the classic Star Wars Trilogy which according to many fans, including me, contains the only true Star Wars movies. George Lucas might have taken advantage of the popular brand to create some new movies, but Star Wars: A New Hope (1977), The Empire Strikes Back (1980) and Return of the Jedi (1983) all sit comfortably in movie history as the most popular movie trilogy ever created.

It took a few years but now this amazing saga has finally arrived on dvd. Perhaps the delay was all for the best, the dvd media had a chance to mature and Lucasfilm could make the transfer that these masterpieces deserve. However, the quality of picture and sound is something we will discuss further down in the review, as well as the extensive bonus material that is included in this edition. We start off with the movies themselves.

The trilogy consists of three movies and I will address them one at a time and tell you about the story. The same procedure will be applied to the discussion of the bonus material. I will also confirm and deny any changes that might have been done to the Star Wars Trilogy as it is now released on dvd.

The story
Star Wars: A New Hope: The Star Wars-saga began with the movie bearing the same name. It opened in 1977 and was only a few years later equipped with the episode title, A New Hope. This, the first film of the series, amazed the entire world and has been influential on the entire movie industry since it premiered on the big screen during the late 70’s. The movie is basically a classical tale about a hero, a princess and a villain. The setting is a little different though since this film takes place somewhere in space, in a time long forgotten.

Luke Skywalker is in his late teens. He lives on a desert planet called Tatooine and loathes his work as a farmer. Luke wants to get away, out in the galaxy. He wants to see and explore new worlds, meet exciting people and try his luck as a starfighter pilot. One day he gets a chance to realize his dreams when a beautiful princess calls out for help. With the aid of a seasoned smuggler by the name of Han Solo, an elderly man with mysterious powers called Obi-Wan Kenobi, two droids and a Wookiee, Luke sets out on a rescue mission to free the damsel in distress and destroy the evil Darth Vader who has her in custody.

Star Wars: A New Hope is the Mother of the saga, according to many fans, and as such the best movie of the three. I have seen the movies too many times, rendering them rather boring to watch today - I know every line - but if I look at them objectively, based on what I thought when I didn't have alls this knowledge, I would say that all three movies make up an unbreakable whole; no movie is better than the other two and all three have to be seen if one is to achieve The Total Star Wars Experience. Having said that, I still acknowledge the fact that the first movie has some really nice scenes. The scene that fans and Lucas alike call Binary Sunset is an exquisite study in nostalgia; calm yet moving music from John Williams is mixed up with the innocence of young Luke Skywalker and a powerful yet desolate desert landscape.

The Empire Strikes Back: The second movie in the trilogy followed up the success of A New Hope and ran almost equally well at the box office. Depending on which “top lists” you are looking at and whether or not inflation is a part of the equation, the places on the lists vary, but usually A New Hope as well as The Empirer Strikes Back occupy two places at the top of the top ten list for most profitable films of all time.

This episode of the saga has a darker ring to it. The powerful and malicious Empire, led by Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine, hunts our heroes from planet to planet and lay devastation wherever they go. Luke travels to the planet of Dagobah to be taught how to become a Jedi Knight, by the little creature Yoda, who is a master of Jedi knowledge. The Empire Strikes Back ends on a dark note and keeps it's feeling of depression throughout the whole movie.

Those who have seen all three Star Was movies a number of times and have evolved beyond the level of layman ship often consider this movie their favourite, mostly because of the lack of joy and happiness that the end of A New Hope “suffers” from.

Return of the Jedi: The saga reaches its conclusion with the third movie. While A New Hope really can stand for itself as an independent movie, The Empire Strikes Back ends with one of the greatest cliff-hangers of all time. This episode is a sequel to the last one and begins right where that ended.

Return of the Jedi is a movie about space wars, space wars on a scale that easily surpasses the battles of the two earlier movies. Luke Skywalker is now a full-fledged Jedi Knight and uses his impressive powers to try to bring down Vader and Palpatine all by himself. Meanwhile, Han, Leia and a great number of rebels struggle to once and for all defeat the Empire and once again turn the galaxy into a hospitable place.

Summary
I never was a Star Wars-fan as a child and I didn't see the movies on the big screen. However, in my mid-teens this extraordinary saga finally hit home with me. The extremely seductive soundtrack of John Williams combined with the storytelling of creator George Lucas and a trio of heroes that has yet to be surpassed in movie history proved to difficult to avoid. During a period of fanaticism I watched the movies once a month. Nowadays I still cherish the movies but very rarely put them in the VCR. However, I have looked forward to finally own the movies on dvd and I am happy that this day now has arrived.

Changes compared to earlier versions
As many fans will testify, George Lucas is a big time revisionist when it comes to his movies. He has on a number of occasions revisited his old products and changed them in both major and minor ways. He has improved the special effects and made the colours more vibrant but also added new scenes, as well as changed existing ones. In 1997, new versions of the movies were released and when that happened all older versions disappeared; his many hardcore fans experienced mixed feelings over this, but it didn't affect sales. Jim Ward, Vice President of Marketing and Distribution at Lucasfilm, says to dvdforum.nu in an interview that 30 million copies were sold worldwide.

Ever since official word came out that the trilogy would be released on dvd these same fans (including me) have wondered if Lucas would be able to keep his fingers away this time or if he once again would change Star Wars: A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.

dvdforum can now, as the first mass medium in the world, answer that question: Yes, the movies have been changed.

I am indecisive regarding the changes that have been done. Some of them raise the quality of the movies while others lower it. However, before you rush away screaming it's only fair to tell you that there are only a select few noticeable changes to the movies. For the most part the movies look like the special editions that were released in 1997. When you glance at the keep-case covers you get a hint that something has been done, though, since there is no “Special Editon” phrase anywhere to be seen. Below I will go through the noticeable changes I have found in the movies.

Star Wars: A New Hope
In the special edition a new scene with Jabba the Hutt was added, a Jabba that looked computerized and unreal in every sense. In the dvd version Jabba has been redone substantially. He now looks much better than before. His interaction with Han Solo is more believable and the big yellow eyes that made you nauseous in the special edition now look more “natural”. This change is definitely for the better, in my opinion.
Something that hasn't changed is the showdown between Greedo and Han Solo in the Mos Eisley Cantina; Greedo still fires before Han does.

The Empire Strikes Back
In the special edition a scream was added that wasn’t there before. When Luke lets go of his grip and throws himself into the shaft after hearing the big news from Darth Vader, Luke screamed in an almost ridiculous way in the special editon. In the dvd version Luke no longer screams while falling down the shaft. This is a welcome change back to the original movie, since he - a Jedi Knight who himself elects to throw himself into the shaft - naturally wouldn't show any weakness by screaming his lungs out.

Unfortunately I haven’t had the opportunity to study the VHS special edition in detail before writing this review. I can therefore not conclusively tell you whether Ian McDiarmid now portrays Palpatine or if the old actress (!) that used to do him still does. Clive Revill is still credited as the voice of Palpatine at the end of the movie. One possibility is that the image of Ian McDiarmid has been used instead of the old actress' but not his voice. When I get an opportunity to look at the special edtion I will be able to give you a more conclusive answer to this question. For now, I leave it at "maybe".

The line “Alert my Star Destroyer to prepare for my arrival”, which was new in the special edition and which features Darth Vader and a very strange voice is still there. The original “Bring my shuttle” has not been restored.

Return of the Jedi
There are two changes at the end of this movie. The first one is small and not all that annoying, the second one is not very funny at all.

When our heroes celebrate the joy of victory with the ewoks on Endor there are also flashes of celebrations on other worlds. What’s new in the dvd version is that you now get to see how they celebrate on Naboo as well as an extended celebration at Coruscant. To those of us who believe that the "new" movies don't have anything to do with the real Star Wars seeing references to those in this classic trilogy isn’t particularly funny. Fortunately the celebration on Naboo is a very short sequence and if you close your eyes at the right moment (something I recommend) you miss it. The extended Coruscant celebration is fine with me, it provides the viewer with a little more presence of that planet.

The biggest and in my mind without a doubt the saddest change in the whole trilogy is the fact that Hayden Christensen has replaced Sebastian Shaw as the "Jedi spirit" of Anakin Skywalker. The pictures we have seen on the Internet have proved to be correct, in every aspect. Instead of Luke watching Sebastian Shaw, Alec Guinness and the Yoda puppet he now looks upon Christensen, Guinness and Yoda. This is really sad since you cannot turn away from this the same way you can with the before mentioned Naboo change.

In all three movies the special effects seem to have been improved and this has made the space battles and the lightsaber clashes more natural. I have no problems with that.

Picture
In the beginning of this review I wrote that perhaps it was for the best that the dvd format had a chance to mature before the task of releasing Star Wars on dvd was undertaken. This is certainly true for this category. The picture of all three movies is ... as good as it can be, at least on a non-projector display (I only had a plasma screen available when I saw these movies). I could never see any trace whatsoever of any artefacts. All the space ships and starfighters are extremely detailed and beautiful to behold. In many cases you can see every tiny detail. On some occasions the picture is almost to detailed since you get a subtle feeling that you are looking at models, and not real spacecraft. They are of course models, but I cannot really blame the superb quality of the picture for me seeing that.

The colours are deep and vibrant throughout the trilogy and the blackness is exquisite. The latter is especially important since large portions of the movies are set in space. I have nothing to complain about here. John Lowry has done a splendid job in cleaning away all the scratches, the dust and the dirt from the negatives. In dvdforum's interview he explains how him and his staff achieved this. All the movies get 10 out of 10 for picture and will be used as reference discs by me in the future.

Sound
Both the above mentioned John Lowry and Rick Dean from THX have been involved in creating the Dolby Digital 5.1 EX sound that manifests itself in all its splendour on the discs. It’s a revolutionary experience for all of us who through the years have seen Star Wars in mere Stereo to finally be able to really be there in the asteroid belt with the Falcon in The Empire Strikes Back. The large rocks whistle round my ears with immense power! There is certainly nothing wrong with the LFE channel either. It rumbles as it should throughout the movies – never before have the deep breaths of Darth Vader felt this intimidating – and, as was implicit in the last sentence, the surround effects are nothing less than spectacular, as they should be.

There is no DTS track on any of the movies and Jim Ward at Lucasfilm explains why in this interview - an explanation I actually buy.

The sound is very good. But not everywhere. Because now is the time to tell you the sad part. When listening to the sound of Star Wars: A New Hope, I unfortunately found a number of tonal differences. On a number of occasions the sound of the dialogue varies between rather muffled one second and much brighter and clearer the next. This is especially noticeable in scene 26, when Tarkin and Vader interrogate Leia about the planet of the rebel base, right before the destruction of Alderaan (about 55 minutes into the movie). Peter Cushing (Tarkin) as well as Carrie Fisher (Leia) speak with both muffled and clear voices throughout the scene.

dvdforum has talked to the studio, 20th Century Fox, about this and asked whether or not they are going to act on the matter. The question went overseas to London as well as Los Angeles and last Monday the Swedish branch told us this:

”The sound has been extracted from the original version of the movie that was made in 1977. The quality is the best that Lucasfilm could possibly achieve through the restoration process and the product is not flawed in any way.”

In Fox’s view there is nothing wrong with the sound and they will not recall any discs. I compared the sound of this scene on the dvd with the same scene on the VHS version from 1997. I can hear no tonal differences between the lines on the latter. To me it seems like the sound of the VHS version is better than the sound of the dvd version in this particular scene. I must admit that feels rather strange.

Because of this flawed sound, I cannot give this edition of Star Wars: A New Hope more than 7 out of 10 in this category. The other two movies both receives the top score since I couldn’t hear any flaws there.

Bonus materials
This is a box that consists of three movies and therefore we can probably assume there are more high-quality bonus materials here than there would have been on a sole film. There are four discs in the box, the fourth contains pure bonus materials but has got its own keep-case, which is very rare.

The first three discs contain the movies and the only bonus materials we can find here are commentaries. The commentaries are good, though. The people behind the mikes are George Lucas, sound designer Ben Burtt, Dennis Muren from Industrial Light & Magic and Princess Leia herself, Carrie Fisher. Director Irvin Kershner joins this gang on The Empire Strikes Back. The commentaries are subtitled in English, which is very nice – even though the dialogue is crisp and clear. If we would have been treated to Swedish subtitles, everything would great, but you can’t have everything.

All the bonus materials on the fourth disc are subtitled in Swedish and many other languages. This is very commendable.

So, what is all this bonus material? First and foremost we have a 2.5 hour documentary about the movies that is called Empire of Dreams: The Story of the Star Wars Trilogy. Since the documentary is this long it includes chapters, which is something very rare when it comes to this context. In this documentary we are treated to interviews with practically every crew and cast member from the trilogy and we get a very thorough guided tour to all three movies. We get to know how they were created, which obstacles the crew went through, how the special effects were created and much, much, much more. This documentary is interesting even for those of us who already know everything about Star Wars since it was shot recently and contains lots of anecdotes, interviews and behind-the-scenes footage that have never been shown to the public before. I have never seen a better, more interesting documentary about a movie.

Apart from this extensive documentary the disc also includes three shorter featurettes. The first one is The Birth of the Lightsaber (15:34) which, not entirely unexpectedly, tells the story of how the famous lightsabers came to be. We get to see Obi-Wan fighting Darth Vader with what looks like fluorescent lamps, without any visual or sound effects. It's fun to watch and gives a whole new meaning to fencing scenes with lightsabers.

The Characters of Star Wars (18:57) features the many exciting and in some cases rather strange characters of Star Wars. Lucas tells us what his thoughts were when writing the script and creating the roles. The actors speak about how they perceived their characters at the shooting and we are also treated to more behind-the-scenes footage. This is a short documentary worth watching.

Many filmmakers have drawn inspiration for their own great achievements from the Star Wars movies and in The Force is With Them: The Legacy of Star Wars (13:24), James Cameron, Peter Jackson and Roland Emmerich reminisce about how the life's work of George Lucas has influenced movies like Titanic, The Lord of the Rings and the lousy Independence Day. This featurette is the least captivating of the three and the one that is the most characteristic of “a-pat-on-the-back-and-celebrate-the-director” tripe.

From the main menu of this disc there is a link to Episode III Preview: The Return of Darth Vader. This is a 9 minutes and 9 seconds long display of not saying or showing anything no one hasn't already heard or seen, only to at the very end show Hayden Christensen donning the Darth Vader costume and disappear out of view. This is a PR stunt that leaves a flat taste, especially since it refers to The Other Movies That Have Nothing To Do With Star Wars.

There is a wealth of information on this disc. A couple of trailers and TV spots from all three movies are interesting to explore. There is also photo gallery containing never-before-seen pictures from the sets – these are also subtitled in Swedish!

The bonus materials round off with pictures of movie posters from around the world, a trailer and a featurette for a new Star Wars game and DVD-ROM access to hidden areas at starwars.com.

Summary
Star Wars has been released on dvd and this is truly a joyous occasion! The box is well-done and extensive, with the exception of the annoying flawed sound on A New Hope and the fact that the headline says "Så gjordes Stars Wars" (approx. "This is how Stars Wars was done") on the back of the fourth keep-case. The latter is an embarrassing incident that easily could have been avoided had the studio proof-read the cover, something that goes without saying on every disc, and particularly on the most sought-after release of all time ...


original link (http://www.dvdforum.nu/?upc=1138)
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 10, 2004, 04:45:09 PM
Comparison screenshots between the Special Editions and the DVD editions:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/starwarschanges.html
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SHAFTR on September 10, 2004, 05:06:46 PM
(http://free.hostdepartment.com/s/starwarstrilogydvd/img/rotj/Small-AnakinEnd104.jpg)

awful
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: A Matter Of Chance on September 10, 2004, 05:26:01 PM
the purple tatoine sky was always one of my favorite things... now its gone
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Stefen on September 10, 2004, 08:29:52 PM
I'm watching the dvd version of empire strikes back and im not a big enough fan to know or care about all the changes, but this movie looks prettier than I have ever seen it. Looks very modern also.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: matt35mm on September 10, 2004, 08:51:21 PM
Gawd, the 1997 Jabba was SO terrible.  I mean, if they were going to keep that scene, at least they fixed Jabba up to look better (although, still.... eh).
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: El Duderino on September 10, 2004, 09:35:05 PM
i dont like the fact that they put in Hayden Christensen as Anakin's ghost
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on September 10, 2004, 11:25:38 PM
i don't like that either.

i'm watching the original version on VHS right now.

no one has addressed that song and dance number in Jabba's palace. i thought that was a horrible addition back in 97. i wondered if that has been changed at all.

i wish they would put back in that deleted scene where Jabba made Leia dance for him in the iron bikini.  :wink:
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 15, 2004, 05:26:45 PM
'Star Wars' Trilogy Debuts on DVD

George Lucas never figured on a 30-year career as a space pilot. Once "Star Wars" shot into hyperspace, though, he found it hard to come back down to Earth.

Making its DVD debut Tuesday, Lucas' original sci-fi trilogy "Star Wars," "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi" began as an experimental foray into old-time studio moviemaking for Lucas, whose first two films had been far removed from usual Hollywood sensibilities.

Lucas' sci-fi satire "THX 1138" had been a commercial dud, but the energetic "American Graffiti" with its driving soundtrack and multi-character point of view scored with audiences, giving the director clout to try something bigger that had been on his mind.
 
"I'd already started this other idea, which was to do a kind of a classic action adventure film using sets," Lucas said over lunch at his 2,600-acre Skywalker Ranch. "I'd never worked on a set, I'd never worked at a studio. Never made a traditional movie. So I said, `I'm going to do this once, just to see what it's like, what it's like to actually design everything, work on a soundstage, do an old-fashioned 1930s movie.

"And I'll do it in that mode from the 1930s Saturday matinee serials, using kind of 1930s and '40s sensibilities, and I'll base it on sort of mythological motifs and icons. I'll just put it together in a modern form, and I'll have fun. That's how I got into that. I did it because it was an interesting move into an area that I thought I'd never go into."

Three decades later, Lucas is preparing to launch the last of his six "Star Wars" films. Next summer brings "Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith," completing the prequel trilogy that tells the story of young Anakin Skywalker's metamorphosis into the villainous Darth Vader of the original three films.

Fans have eagerly awaited the first three "Star Wars" films on DVD, a release Lucas initially intended to delay until he finished "Episode III."

Some will be miffed that the original theatrical versions are not included in the "Star Wars" boxed set, which features only the special-edition versions Lucas issued in the late 1990s, with added effects and footage, including a scene between Harrison Ford's Han Solo and crime lord Jabba the Hutt in the first "Star Wars."

AP: Why did you change your mind and decide to put the original three movies out on DVD now?

Lucas: Just because the market has shifted so dramatically. A lot of people are getting very worried about piracy. That has really eaten dramatically into the sales. It really just came down to, there may not be a market when I wanted to bring it out, which was like, three years from now. So rather than just sit by and watch the whole thing fall apart, better to bring it out early and get it over with.

AP: Why did you rework the original trilogy into the special-edition versions in the late 1990s?

Lucas: To me, the special edition ones are the films I wanted to make. Anybody that makes films knows the film is never finished. It's abandoned or it's ripped out of your hands, and it's thrown into the marketplace, never finished. It's a very rare experience where you find a filmmaker who says, "That's exactly what I wanted. I got everything I needed. I made it just perfect. I'm going to put it out there." And even most artists, most painters, even composers would want to come back and redo their work now. They've got a new perspective on it, they've got more resources, they have better technology, and they can fix or finish the things that were never done. ... I wanted to actually finish the film the way it was meant to be when I was originally doing it. At the beginning, people went, "Don't you like it?" I said, "Well, the film only came out to be 25 or 30 percent of what I wanted it to be." They said, "What are you talking about?" So finally, I stopped saying that, b! ut if you read any interviews for about an eight- or nine-year period there, it was all about how disappointed I was and how unhappy I was and what a dismal experience it was. You know, it's too bad you need to get kind of half a job done and never get to finish it. So this was my chance to finish it.

AP: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

Lucas: The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I'm the one who has to take responsibility for it. I'm the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they're going to throw rocks at me, they're going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished.

AP: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

Lucas: Not really. The movies are what the movies are. ... The thing about science-fiction fans and "Star Wars" fans is they're very independent-thinking people. They all think outside the box, but they all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way.

AP: After "Episode III," will you ever revisit "Star Wars"?

Lucas: Ultimately, I'm going to probably move it into television and let other people take it. I'm sort of preserving the feature film part for what has happened and never go there again, but I can go off into various offshoots and things. You know, I've got offshoot novels, I've got offshoot comics. So it's very easy to say, "Well, OK, that's that genre, and I'll find a really talented person to take it and create it." Just like the comic books and the novels are somebody else's way of doing it. I don't mind that. Some of it might turn out to be pretty good. If I get the right people involved, it could be interesting.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Stefen on September 15, 2004, 05:55:42 PM
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Lucas: Just because the market has shifted so dramatically. A lot of people are getting very worried about piracy. That has really eaten dramatically into the sales. It really just came down to, there may not be a market when I wanted to bring it out, which was like, three years from now. So rather than just sit by and watch the whole thing fall apart, better to bring it out early and get it over with.


In other words, Lucas just wanted to make more money, and he knew that in 3 years after the saga is completed noone would buy them because the third prequel will probably suck, and everyone will have already pirated the original trilogy, fuck George Lucas. I think i'm gonna start a boycott, whos in?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on September 15, 2004, 05:58:28 PM
A&E aired Empire of Dreams the other night. I found it quite interesting, and it kind of pumped me up a bit. I guess the fact that it was such a hit overshadows the fact how daring the film (A New Hope) really was.......in pretty much all areas of filmmaking.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SHAFTR on September 15, 2004, 06:43:14 PM
Quote from: Stefen
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Lucas: Just because the market has shifted so dramatically. A lot of people are getting very worried about piracy. That has really eaten dramatically into the sales. It really just came down to, there may not be a market when I wanted to bring it out, which was like, three years from now. So rather than just sit by and watch the whole thing fall apart, better to bring it out early and get it over with.


In other words, Lucas just wanted to make more money, and he knew that in 3 years after the saga is completed noone would buy them because the third prequel will probably suck, and everyone will have already pirated the original trilogy, fuck George Lucas. I think i'm gonna start a boycott, whos in?


I want to tell you that I am in, but it's too hard.  I love Star Wars and I need it on DVD...if I could be sure that it wouldn't sell...I'd join in and not buy it...but it will sell.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Stefen on September 15, 2004, 06:54:00 PM
SHAFTR, you must steal the dvd. tuck it under your trenchcoat and walk out. But tape yourself doing it, and then we will send it to Lucas. After that PHASE ONE will be complete, I will send you instructions for PHASE TWO when PHASE ONE is completed. OVER.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Myxo on September 15, 2004, 10:26:08 PM
Die!! You go to hell and you die George Lucas! Give me the originals on DVD you fucking wanker. Damnit!! Grr..

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Lucas: To me, the special edition ones are the films I wanted to make. Anybody that makes films knows the film is never finished. It's abandoned or it's ripped out of your hands, and it's thrown into the marketplace, never finished. It's a very rare experience where you find a filmmaker who says, "That's exactly what I wanted. I got everything I needed. I made it just perfect. I'm going to put it out there." And even most artists, most painters, even composers would want to come back and redo their work now. They've got a new perspective on it, they've got more resources, they have better technology, and they can fix or finish the things that were never done. ... I wanted to actually finish the film the way it was meant to be when I was originally doing it. At the beginning, people went, "Don't you like it?" I said, "Well, the film only came out to be 25 or 30 percent of what I wanted it to be." They said, "What are you talking about?" So finally, I stopped saying that, but if you read any interviews for about an eight- or nine-year period there, it was all about how disappointed I was and how unhappy I was and what a dismal experience it was. You know, it's too bad you need to get kind of half a job done and never get to finish it. So this was my chance to finish it.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on September 15, 2004, 11:12:31 PM
Asshole Quote Of The Month:
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It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it.


Oh-I-Forgot-I'm-Worth-BILLIONS Quote Of The Month:
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The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: El Duderino on September 15, 2004, 11:23:11 PM
i now loathe George Lucas
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on September 15, 2004, 11:25:57 PM
Why do you all loathe him now all of a sudden? He's been saying these same things for years. At least he's sticking to his guns.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: eward on September 15, 2004, 11:34:51 PM
fuck dude...at last spielberg was decent enough to recognize the fact that there was a whole generation of et lovers who would want only the original on dvd, not his shitty special edition...he at least gave everyone an option...and yes, lucas has been saying all of this for years, and is sticking to his guns....but fans have been getting pissed at him for saying all of that shit for all of these years, and are in turn sticking to their guns...
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on September 15, 2004, 11:42:36 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy
Why do you all loathe him now all of a sudden? He's been saying these same things for years. At least he's sticking to his guns.

It's the two quotes I pointed out that I felt insulted by. To say "sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it." That's harsh for people who love the originals and don't WANT "updated" versions.

And it's funny because Lucas KNOWS that, albeit releasing the originals on DVD will cost 'millions'.. it's a drop in the bucket for him. He's well aware this will make profit so why does he say "i want to update them and never revisit what my true die-hard fans have been begging for. too bad; so sad."

That said, I'm not one of the die-hards but I do feel bad for them. Oh, and I will be buying the DVD set since the good things updated outweigh the bad.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on September 15, 2004, 11:54:39 PM
Yeah, I don't mean to say I appreciate his attitude...but I've just come to accept it over the past six years or so, so I try not to let it piss me off anymore. I can't wait to see these movies on DVD, changes or not, just because of the restored picture and sound. I haven't watched them since they special editions first came on video...it's gonna be a good week next week.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Myxo on September 16, 2004, 02:27:17 AM
Ya know, there is a reason why Kubrick never made "AI". He didn't feel the technology had progressed to a point where he felt the film could be made with the vision he had in mind.

I know this is a bit extreme and in hindsight people will say,

"Are you crazy! Episodes 4,5 and 6 were incredible!"

However, if he genuinely felt while making the film that he was only getting 25-30 percent of his vision on screen, why the hell did he create it only to fuck with it two decades later? I've never heard of an artist going back to "correct" a painting.

Lucas is a wanker.

Oh, I'm buying the trilogy anyway. I already own the original on VHS. I just wanted the god damn original on DVD too. Why couldn't he give us a choice, ya know? I'll pay an extra 20 bucks for the choice.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on September 16, 2004, 03:07:29 AM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
I've never heard of an artist going back to "correct" a painting.

Among many other such cases, it's generally believed that DaVinci went back and added certain things to the Mona Lisa -- mainly, adding the landscape to the background after the figure was already in place.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Pubrick on September 16, 2004, 07:39:41 AM
Quote from: Ghostboy
Quote from: Myxomatosis
I've never heard of an artist going back to "correct" a painting.

Among many other such cases, it's generally believed that DaVinci went back and added certain things to the Mona Lisa -- mainly, adding the landscape to the background after the figure was already in place.

yeah, that statement is full of holes. the most gaping one is comparing lucas to an artist.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Pedro on September 16, 2004, 08:05:40 AM
Quote from: Pubrick
Quote from: Ghostboy
Quote from: Myxomatosis
I've never heard of an artist going back to "correct" a painting.

Among many other such cases, it's generally believed that DaVinci went back and added certain things to the Mona Lisa -- mainly, adding the landscape to the background after the figure was already in place.

yeah, that statement is full of holes. the most gaping one is comparing lucas to an artist.

hahaha, i like that.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on September 16, 2004, 02:59:19 PM
here's something i dont quite get after watching the zoetrope thing on the thx dvd.  he singlehandedly RUINED the utopian dream that was American Zoetrope and yet, when he became a billionaire didnt think to maybe put a little bit of money back into it to let young filmmakers pursue the dream they started?  or actually let lucasfilm put out OTHER peoples movies?   coppola was all about sharing the wealth and trying to help everyone else and lucas ruined things for everyone else and became a billionaire anyways.  thats sort of a dick move isnt it?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 16, 2004, 03:33:58 PM
ALL RIGHT I GET IT. YOU ALL HATE LUCAS.

Quote from: themodernage02
here's something i dont quite get after watching the zoetrope thing on the thx dvd.  he singlehandedly RUINED the utopian dream that was American Zoetrope and yet, when he became a billionaire didnt think to maybe put a little bit of money back into it to let young filmmakers pursue the dream they started?  or actually let lucasfilm put out OTHER peoples movies?   coppola was all about sharing the wealth and trying to help everyone else and lucas ruined things for everyone else and became a billionaire anyways.  thats sort of a dick move isnt it?


Did you not watch the entire documentary? Don't blame all that shit on Lucas. The doc tells you that the studio didn't back THX 1138, and thus cancelled all the deals made with Zoetrope. It's not Lucas's fault his film wasn't well received. Lucas and Coppola did what they wanted - made films their own way. Coppola continued to make his Zoetrope thrive with all his success with The Godfather. This was before American Graffiti and Star Wars.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on September 16, 2004, 03:46:14 PM
i did watch the whole thing, and i know he made the film he wanted to make, (well almost, apparently), but it was HIS film that made warner back out of the 7 picture deal with zoetrope and it basically collapsed because of him.  you would think he may have felt some guilt for that, which i didnt detect any traces of on the doc.  and you would also think that knowing what he or any of his fellow filmmakers had to go through to make THEIR movies outside of the hollywood structure, he might've wanted to keep the dream alive by supporting other filmmakers through zoetrope or lucasfilm.  is there a reason he hasnt been funding promising filmmakers to make their early films with small budgets and creative freedom?  he has the money/power?  why wouldnt he offer the help that he wasnt offered?  i dont hate lucas.  i just dont get him.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 16, 2004, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
i did watch the whole thing, and i know he made the film he wanted to make, (well almost, apparently), but it was HIS film that made warner back out of the 7 picture deal with zoetrope and it basically collapsed because of him.  you would think he may have felt some guilt for that, which i didnt detect any traces of on the doc.  


Why should he feel guilty? IT WASN'T HIS FAULT!!! The studio fucked him over, wanting to cut the film for time and no backing on the release. Why do you think they had the guys waiting outside the projection room ready to take back the film after the screening? He was afraid they would take the film away from him completely.

The screenplay was turned down initially, but they lied to get the film made through WB. Remember, this was the time when studios had no idea what they were doing and were looking to the young filmmakers (with the success of Easy Rider) to steer them in the right direction. But Lucas basically made an experimential film that the suits didn't "get".
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Derek on September 16, 2004, 04:46:26 PM
I know this is blasphemy, but I think that most, if not all the changes that have been made are to the benefit of the films.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SHAFTR on September 16, 2004, 05:14:01 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
AP: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

Lucas: The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be.



In 1983, he wanted Hayden Christensen in Return of the Jedi.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 16, 2004, 05:54:24 PM
Quote from: SHAFTR
In 1983, he wanted Hayden Christensen in Return of the Jedi.


No, he wanted Anakin Skywalker. He couldn't put in an unknown at the end coda, so he used the same Anakin (Sebastian Shaw) from under the mask that Luke takes off. The DVD changes now reflect the physical state when Anakin (Christensen) really does die and becomes Vader.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: picolas on September 16, 2004, 06:25:41 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
The DVD changes now reflect the physical state when Anakin (Christensen) really does die and becomes Vader.

but then his ghost would have already existed, wouldn'tit've?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 16, 2004, 06:35:49 PM
Quote from: picolisp
but then his ghost would have already existed, wouldn'tit've?


No, his body was still alive...somewhat: "Now he's machine more than man." - Obi Wan.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: picolas on September 16, 2004, 06:45:04 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: picolisp
but then his ghost would have already existed, wouldn'tit've?


No, his body was still alive...somewhat: "Now he's machine more than man." - Obi Wan.

why isn't his ghost that of the oldest guy? it makes it seems like killing the Emporer didn't count for shit towards his ghost-image. that's, like, supposed to be the defining moment of the trilogy. that whole thing about how the whole thing is about redemption. it's the best thing Anakin ever did. it made him. if you're going to pick a moment when he was the "goodest" you should just go with when he was a kid before he started with the mass-murdering of sand people.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: RegularKarate on September 16, 2004, 07:59:00 PM
I don't think it's "most goodest" as much as it is "Best Jediest" and he wasn't a jedi yet when he was a little booger-picker
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 16, 2004, 09:57:04 PM
Quote from: Derek
I know this is blasphemy, but I think that most, if not all the changes that have been made are to the benefit of the films.


THANK YOU :notworthy:

SpoilerS


I agree with that 100%.  I am sick and tired of all of these Star Wars geeks bitching about the changes.  I don't care if Lucas puts an extra scene where Han fucks Greedo.  I want the damn dvds.  Plus all of these poepl who are bitching about the changes will be the same poeple buying this badass set the day it comes out.  I was reading online and starting thinking about these changes and if they really fuck the films up.  I think they are necessary.  I like how at the end of Jedi Hayden will be at the end w/ Yoda and Obi instead of Shaw.  Thats fucking fine by me.  It makes everything flow together.  I was secretly hoping that he would do something like this.  Because I want these films to all gel.  And no one should complain about the fact that all the effects will be smoothed out and more real looking and 'updated'.  People have go tto realize whether they like it or not "The Phantom Menance" and "Attack of the Clones" are part of the Star Wars universe-so deal with the changes and learn to accept them.  Be thankful that Lucas actaully cares enough to change these films soem to give them more consistancy with each other.  Another thing I like is the fact the at the end of Jedi the celebration scenes will contain Naboo and the Jedi Temple.  These two locations are featured heavily in the first two films and it is a smart thing to do to include them in Jedi.  And remeber these are Lucas' films not yours.  I cant believe that the huge Staw Wars geeks [i am talking about the ones who dress up in costume, attend conventions, and think Jedism is a true functioning religion] try to diss on the new additons to the films because w/o Lucas bringing Star Wars into their life they would have nothing to live for [or they would have to turn to Star Trek].

1. Chill the fuck out
2. Buy these dvds
3. Deal with it
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on September 16, 2004, 10:30:05 PM
The way I deal with it is -- I can't wait to show these movies to my kids someday (if I have kids), and the ones they're going to see will be these editions. And they're not gonna give a crap about any of these changes because they won't realize they were changed in the first place, and because they ultimately don't effect the storytelling or the inherent magic of the films, it's not going to be a big deal. The kids'll still going to get a kick out of the films, and, despite my reservations, I will too.

Question of the week: if you were going to introduce somoene to the SW series, and assuming you'll be showing them all six and not just the originals, would you show them the original series first or the prequels? If you go with the prequels, you lose the whole "Luke, I Am You Father" twist, but if you go with the originals, Anakin's turn to the dark side will be completely anticipated.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on September 16, 2004, 10:38:53 PM
the thing about changing the Return of the Jedi ending is that you lose the song "Celebrate the Love." i watched my RotJ VHS and even listened to my CD Box Set (released before the SE's) and i love that song. i don't think you can help but smile at the beginning of that song.

about what to show future generations: hmmm, i really think the two trilogies are in totally different categories. the story and dialogue/acting has been sacrificed in EPs 1 & 2 for special effects. i'm thinking/hoping EP 3 will be a return to form (how can you mess up Anakin's turn to the DArk Side  :roll: ), but i would show the original trilogy.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SHAFTR on September 17, 2004, 03:08:26 AM
Also Lucas calls these his movies...when he only directed 1/3 of the original trilogy.

I show my children the Episodes IV - VI, original, and I wouldn't bother showing them the rest.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on September 17, 2004, 08:25:27 AM
i'm only going to show "the ewok adventure" for me kids.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: eward on September 17, 2004, 09:04:23 AM
i'll show them the episode of sesame street with luke skywalker in it
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on September 17, 2004, 09:29:07 AM
i'll show them the back of my hand.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on September 17, 2004, 10:50:02 AM
How about watching them the Godfather 2 way?


Episode 1 - Obi-Wan and Anakin's meeting

Episode 4 - There's Obi-Wan, Anakin's kid, Luke, but where's Anakin? Killed by Vader?

Episode 2 - Anakin marries Padme. So that's Luke's mom...Ahh. Those are the stormtroopers. Hey, wait a second, could that guy be the emperor? ...you get the idea.

Episode 5 - Wait a sec?! This Vader guy is Luke's father? THAT's Anakin?! How the hell did this shit happen?!

Episode 3 - How the shit happened.

Episode 6 - Vader turns good. Dies. Emperor dead. Lukes lights a bonfire.

This way you 1) Preseve the suprice, 2) Get the feeling of a more coherent bigger picture, as opposed to two entirely different sets of trilogies, that switch it's character focus midway. And 3) You get the father/ son stories mirroring each other. Powerful cinema if you ask me. But then again, people rarely do.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: eward on September 17, 2004, 01:32:51 PM
that was winning!
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on September 17, 2004, 02:08:55 PM
episode 7 - luke is still single. solo and leia get married. chewie cruises around in space looking for chicks. c3p0 accidently drowns in a bathtub. r2d2 mourns the death by whistling a 30 minute hymn that is so loud that it kills the entire jawa population.

episode 8 - c3po is amazingly ressurected by a team of professors on the tatooine planet. r2d2 unbeknownst of c3po's resurrection is said to have disappeared. chewie meets a female ranchor.

episode 9 - luke decides to take a shot at leia. fails miserably. han solo gives him a ton of whoop. chewie and his girlfriend is proud parents to a male chewnchor named teddy. c3po and r2d2 reunites at the blue oyster bar. the end.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on September 17, 2004, 05:29:14 PM
Seriously? Fuck. Now I gotta rework my whole scheme.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SiliasRuby on September 19, 2004, 06:06:39 PM
I saw the DVD trilogy at Wallmart today for people to pick up but unusually I didn't see a price.....
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: eward on September 19, 2004, 06:48:17 PM
at borders, preparing for the trilogy's release, they were sellin those collectible lightsaber models (dont remember the brand name) the kind with the metal handle, and the glowing saber, etc.  really cool..for like 35 bucks each
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Myxo on September 19, 2004, 07:04:33 PM
So, who wants to bet there will be two more collections realeased in the future? We know for sure there will be at least one more collection of Episodes 1-6, but I'm betting on an "uber" collection which gives audiences a chance to watch episodes 4, 5 and 6 pre-Lucas fucking with them.

He'll wait until Episode 3 is ready for release on DVD, then he'll release that by itself. A few months afterwards, there will be some sort of $100+ collection of all 6. I'd bet a while later (maybe a year or so) he'll go ahead and release 4, 5 and 6 by themselves or as part of another collection of the films for fans who won't stop bugging him for the old version.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SHAFTR on September 19, 2004, 07:09:26 PM
Quote from: Myxomatosis


He'll wait until Episode 3 is ready for release on DVD, then he'll release that by itself. A few months afterwards, there will be some sort of $100+ collection of all 6. I'd bet a while later (maybe a year or so) he'll go ahead and release 4, 5 and 6 by themselves or as part of another collection of the films for fans who won't stop bugging him for the old version.


by then he could redo them too...
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on September 19, 2004, 10:19:00 PM
2007 will be the 30th anniversary of A New Hope and one reviewer thinks there will be a release then.

maybe he'll change the prequels by then and add some interesting dialogue.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: matt35mm on September 19, 2004, 10:26:45 PM
Shouldn't this thread title be changed?

Anyway, I also agree that it's entirely his right to change the movies.  He's obviously a perfectionist, and he can't really let go of his movies.  They won't be entirely finished until he's dead.  FINE.  That's all within his right as the maker and owner of the movies and their rights, respectively.

But yeah, he is being pompous by denying to release the original versions, when it's obvious that so many people want them.

That said, it doesn't really matter what I think, because I'm not a Star Wars purist.  I don't feel like the movies have, in essence, been ruined.  They're still the same movies to me.  SOME of the additions are nice and make sense, whereas Lucas's idea that all CGI is completely realistic-looking hurts many of the new additions.  At least digital Jabba looks better than he did in 1997, but it still looks crappy.  ILM is seriously way behind companies like WETA Digital.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 19, 2004, 10:39:04 PM
Quote from: matt35mm
Shouldn't this thread title be changed?

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Quote from: Myxomatosis
Nothing like xixax.com to have a thread called, "Original Star Wars Trilogy never to be released on DVD" and we're all talking about the upcoming release.


Quote from: RegularKarate
the original WILL never be released... haven't you read the...?

fuck it



 
Quote from: MacGuffin
He probably thinks the Special Edition versions released in 1997 were the Originals.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Derek on September 20, 2004, 05:13:12 PM
audio problems with Episode IV:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 21, 2004, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Derek
audio problems with Episode IV:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents


Quote from: TheDigitalBits
In all the hype over the DVD release of Star Wars, I'm afraid to say there's a bit of bad news about the discs (or at least one of them) from a quality standpoint. We've discovered what we believe are serious audio defects on Episode IV - A New Hope. We've updated our DVD review of the set accordingly with the details as follows:

[Editor's Note: since we initially wrote this review, a few audio/mixing errors on the DVD version of A New Hope have been detected. They are as follows:

1) The familiar Force theme trumpet fanfare that used to play right after Red Leader says: "This is it!" and just as the X-wings start diving towards the Death Star's surface has been dialed back in volume so that it's almost inaudible - it's almost completely buried in the surround mix.

2) The audio quality varies wildly as Tarkin says the line: "You would prefer another target, a military target? Then name the system." - almost as if the master sound element was damaged.

3) Also, John Williams' score for the film seems to have been flipped in the rear channels, so that what should be the left rear channel seems to be playing from the right rear channel (and vise versa). What this means is that the rear channels don't match the front channels - instruments heard from the front right channel come from the left rear instead of the right rear. It's hard to notice, but we're getting a number of reports from people hearing this.

These problems would seem to be severe enough to merit a repressing/exchange of the disc. We're waiting to hear back from Lucasfilm on this issue and we'll update this review with the details as soon as we do.]


DigitalBits Update:

Well... Lucasfilm has responded to our questions about the audio issue on the DVD of Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope with a blanket statement of denial. Here's the exact text:

"We are always impressed with how closely fans listen to the many different sound mixes we have made for the Star Wars movies over the years. It is flattering to know that, indeed, the audience is listening. Consequently, each mix comes out differently and any changes that you hear on the all-new Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround EX tracks on the Star Wars Trilogy DVD set are deliberate creative decisions. We can confirm that there are no technical glitches as reported."

Now here's my response. I don't buy it. The audio quality of that Tarkin line can't be anything other than a technical issue, probably a problem with the original audio element of the dialogue, and Lucasfilm doesn't want to cop to that on the eve of the big release. When you guys hear it tomorrow, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Tarkin's "Then name the system!" line sounds terrible. As far as dialing down the trumpet fanfare during the Death Star attack (in fact, much of Williams' music during the first part of the attack has been reduced in volume in the mix)... I can see that could be a creative decision. It's a decision I absolutely HATE, but okay, maybe that's a creative decision. You guys will have to see what you think when you get the discs.

As far as the reversed music in the surrounds issue - it's going to be very hard for the average listener to detect. We've heard from a number of sources, however, who claim to hear it. In fact, that's how we originally became aware of the problem ourselves. Still, in light of Lucasfilm's denial, we'd like more of you die hard audiophiles to give this disc a listen yourselves and see if you hear it too.

We'll keep looking into this, so stay tuned...
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: meatball on September 21, 2004, 03:03:25 PM
Stop speculating.

Quote
Why Lucas tinkered with 'Star Wars'

SAN RAFAEL, California (AP) -- George Lucas never figured on a 30-year career as a space pilot. Once "Star Wars" shot into hyperspace, though, he found it hard to come back down to Earth.

Making its DVD debut Tuesday, Lucas' original sci-fi trilogy -- "Star Wars," "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi" -- began as an experimental foray into old-time studio moviemaking for Lucas, whose first two films had been far removed from usual Hollywood sensibilities.

Lucas' sci-fi satire "THX 1138" had been a commercial dud, but the energetic "American Graffiti" with its driving soundtrack and multi-character point of view scored with audiences, giving the director clout to try something bigger that had been on his mind.

"I'd already started this other idea, which was to do a kind of a classic action adventure film using sets," Lucas said over lunch at his 2,600-acre Skywalker Ranch. "I'd never worked on a set, I'd never worked at a studio. Never made a traditional movie. So I said, 'I'm going to do this once, just to see what it's like, what it's like to actually design everything, work on a soundstage, do an old-fashioned 1930s movie.

"And I'll do it in that mode from the 1930s Saturday matinee serials, using kind of 1930s and '40s sensibilities, and I'll base it on sort of mythological motifs and icons. I'll just put it together in a modern form, and I'll have fun. That's how I got into that. I did it because it was an interesting move into an area that I thought I'd never go into."

Three decades later, Lucas is preparing to launch the last of his six "Star Wars" films. Next summer brings "Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith," completing the prequel trilogy that tells the story of young Anakin Skywalker's metamorphosis into the villainous Darth Vader of the original three films.

Fans have eagerly awaited the first three "Star Wars" films on DVD, a release Lucas initially intended to delay until he finished "Episode III."

Some will be miffed that the original theatrical versions are not included in the "Star Wars" boxed set, which features only the special-edition versions Lucas issued in the late 1990s, with added effects and footage, including a scene between Harrison Ford's Han Solo and crime lord Jabba the Hutt in the first "Star Wars."

Darth Vader, whose origins are being traced in the first three films, is one of movie history's great villains.

Q: Why did you change your mind and decide to put the original three movies out on DVD now?

GEORGE LUCAS: Just because the market has shifted so dramatically. A lot of people are getting very worried about piracy. That has really eaten dramatically into the sales. It really just came down to, there may not be a market when I wanted to bring it out, which was like, three years from now. So rather than just sit by and watch the whole thing fall apart, better to bring it out early and get it over with.

Q: Why did you rework the original trilogy into the special-edition versions in the late 1990s?

LUCAS: To me, the special edition ones are the films I wanted to make. Anybody that makes films knows the film is never finished. It's abandoned or it's ripped out of your hands, and it's thrown into the marketplace, never finished. It's a very rare experience where you find a filmmaker who says, "That's exactly what I wanted. I got everything I needed. I made it just perfect. I'm going to put it out there." And even most artists, most painters, even composers would want to come back and redo their work now. They've got a new perspective on it, they've got more resources, they have better technology, and they can fix or finish the things that were never done. ...

I wanted to actually finish the film the way it was meant to be when I was originally doing it. At the beginning, people went, "Don't you like it?" I said, "Well, the film only came out to be 25 or 30 percent of what I wanted it to be." They said, "What are you talking about?" So finally, I stopped saying that, but if you read any interviews for about an eight- or nine-year period there, it was all about how disappointed I was and how unhappy I was and what a dismal experience it was. You know, it's too bad you need to get kind of half a job done and never get to finish it. So this was my chance to finish it.

'I'm making the movies'

Q: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

LUCAS: The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ...

I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be.

Lucas has often said he was unhappy with the original trilogy as it was released.

I'm the one who has to take responsibility for it. I'm the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they're going to throw rocks at me, they're going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished.

Q: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

LUCAS: Not really. The movies are what the movies are. ... The thing about science-fiction fans and "Star Wars" fans is they're very independent-thinking people. They all think outside the box, but they all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way.

Q: After "Episode III," will you ever revisit "Star Wars"?

LUCAS: Ultimately, I'm going to probably move it into television and let other people take it. I'm sort of preserving the feature film part for what has happened and never go there again, but I can go off into various offshoots and things.

You know, I've got offshoot novels, I've got offshoot comics. So it's very easy to say, "Well, OK, that's that genre, and I'll find a really talented person to take it and create it." Just like the comic books and the novels are somebody else's way of doing it. I don't mind that. Some of it might turn out to be pretty good. If I get the right people involved, it could be interesting.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on September 21, 2004, 03:12:10 PM
meatball, that was like so 3 pages ago.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on September 21, 2004, 04:13:35 PM
More like april.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: eward on September 21, 2004, 08:41:20 PM
more like
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: picolas on September 21, 2004, 08:43:56 PM
i will also post.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: pete on September 21, 2004, 09:02:14 PM
Quote from: cinephile in the bruce lee thread
This is the geekiest thread I've ever read.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on September 21, 2004, 11:23:23 PM
So far, all I've watched is the Empire Of Dreams documentary, which just left me feeling totally invigorated, feeling like I was eight years old again, back when the Making Of Star Wars book made me decide I wanted to make films. Some of that behind the scenes footage was fantastic, and I love the outtake where Chewie talks in a british accent (the guy that played Chewie lives nearby, I bet he's getting mobbed by autograph hounds this week). Also, Darth Vader cutting Obi Wan in half was great.

Also, The Birth Of Darth Vader completely gave me chills, because I'm a dork like that.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SHAFTR on September 21, 2004, 11:47:33 PM
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Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: meatball on September 22, 2004, 12:55:56 AM
Quote from: Cinephile
meatball, that was like so 3 pages ago.


Figures. I don't read anybody else's posts. I just post blindly.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on September 22, 2004, 02:20:49 AM
Yeah, your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust 'em.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 22, 2004, 09:04:56 PM
'Star Wars' DVD Box Sales in Stratosphere

"Star Wars Trilogy," the most anticipated DVD of the year, generated $115 million in worldwide sales during its first day in release Tuesday, but that figure from executives at 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment also includes sales of the "Star Wars Battlefront" video game.

Unit sales numbers were not immediately available for the four-disc set featuring remastered and newly crafted versions of "Star Wars," "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi."

As is typical with collectible DVD box sets, retailers believe that "Star Wars Trilogy" will have a long shelf life, anticipating additional sales during the holiday gift-giving season.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Derek on September 25, 2004, 05:01:46 PM
I kind of forgot how great these movies are. A New Hope feels as fresh today as when I first remember seeing it. Really simple stories.  I do like the digital changes that have been made to the original trilogy, tying the series together. Lots of cheeseball lines and not taking itself too seriously, something I think is a problem with the prequel trilogy.

Empire of Dreams is a very good documentary (I didn't know Spileberg was originally lined up to direct Jedi), and its cool to see the original teasers and trailers.

Great movies.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on September 25, 2004, 05:06:40 PM
is it great to see it in widescreen glory?

what is the best deal you've found on it? i don't know if i want to get it or just borrow someone else's. i'm afraid that there will be a better set in the future. one review talked about deleted scenes, but then again, if the future box set involves extra stuff on the prequels (whose discs are already loaded) then maybe i should just go ahead and get it.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Derek on September 25, 2004, 05:17:29 PM
I've always been more of an impulse buyer than a guy who shops around, could explain why I'm always broke.

I realize that there will be a definitive box set in the future, which I will definitely purchase, but it is years away. Right now I am so happy with this set, it has exceeded all of my expectations. The films look and sound great. But the biggest reason I am so happy is that I really did forget how good they all are. There has been so much Star Wars slagging of late and constant comparisons to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, that my enthusiasm for the series unfairly waned. A New Hope is pure joy, Empire is the tightest sequel ever made and the Ewoks don't bother me.

I am beginning to sound like Harry Knowles.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cron on September 25, 2004, 05:31:50 PM
as long as you don't start looking like him, you'll be okay.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 25, 2004, 06:00:30 PM
as ghostboy and derek mentioned i am also having  a blast watching this sh*t on dvd.  so far ive watched the doc and a few of the featurettes, a new hope and empire. the transfer a perfect and i dont have the 5.1 surround setup going but i have 2 larger speakers and these disc work it hard.  its killer.  as for the doc its everything but still feels lacking.  even at two and a half hours i was still  wanting more. phuck, i wish they gave these star wars films the "lord of the rings extended edition treatrment".  that would be so damn cool.  having all three films [w/ the deleted scenes cut back in them] sprerad across 4 discs for each film including more and more informative docs, and i like how LOTR has their commentary tracks broken by cast, director/writer etc., and the technical stuff.  i wish star wars was like that.  if anything these phuckign films deserves that typr of treatment which makes me think that thery will have a more "definitive" release of this -someday.    as derek has already mentioned,  the changes do  benifit these films and they are welcomed by me.  and people knock the prequels so much for their "bad" and cheesy" dialogue.  but the trilogy does have its share of this too.  so, um, you can dissmiss that aguement.  i was a little dissapointed by episode one but enjoyed AOTC immensely.  and what little i know about episode 3 makes me believe that this prequels will end on a good note.  but anyway, this set rules.  

oh, MAY 19, 2005  :multi:
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 25, 2004, 07:08:47 PM
Quote from: bigideas
what is the best deal you've found on it?


Got mine for $37.

Quote from: NEON MERCURY
i like how LOTR has their commentary tracks broken by cast, director/writer etc., and the technical stuff.  i wish star wars was like that.


No, these are better. I'd rather have a good chunk of each participant's input spliced together than an entire rambling track of actors commenting on what they're watching on screen.

The commentaries are excellent, especially Ben Burtt revealing what common item was used for the sound effects. My only gripe is that I wish they would have included the archived making-of docs, like "From Star Wars To Jedi - The Making of a Saga." Those were more informative than hearing John Singleton's comments.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on September 26, 2004, 11:02:54 AM
not that its THAT important, but because i need an outlet...
the covers are awful on the films.  the box itself is flimsy, not sturdy like the indiana jones one.  and the inserts are just a chapter list and on the thinnest paper i've ever seen.  cheap.

however, watching the doc gave me a greater appreciation/respect for lucas and the struggles he went through.  i guess by the time he had any money/power to put into something like zoetrope the time for that had passed.  so while i still think he should be putting out others movies at lucasfilm, i guess i dont think he's a total dick for not doing it.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Chest Rockwell on September 26, 2004, 11:38:36 AM
After I bought it the first thing I did was put in Return of the Jedi and went to the 49th chapter and witnessed Hayden Christensen as the spirit of Darth Vader. It was stupid. It better be damn-well justified in Episode III. What I figured was they wanted to show Anakin and not Darth Vader (Anakin before he went bad), which isn't a terrible thing, I guess.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on September 26, 2004, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: themodernage02

the covers are awful on the films.


No shit -- that style started with the Episode 1 DVD, but at least with the prequels they had nice new photography to cull from. The OT covers look like they're straight out of a beginner's Photoshop class. I don't know how these would be preferable to anyone, customers AND marketing execs, over the original posters. Just think about that gorgeous Gone With The Wind style ESB poster, or the black teaser poster with Vader's face barely visible...and compare it to this excrement.

Anyway, the DVDs themselves still rock.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 26, 2004, 02:07:31 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
however, watching the doc gave me a greater appreciation/respect for lucas and the struggles he went through.  i guess by the time he had any money/power to put into something like zoetrope the time for that had passed.  so while i still think he should be putting out others movies at lucasfilm, i guess i dont think he's a total dick for not doing it.


Quote from: MacGuffin
The doc tells you that the studio didn't back THX 1138, and thus cancelled all the deals made with Zoetrope. It's not Lucas's fault his film wasn't well received. Lucas and Coppola did what they wanted - made films their own way. Coppola continued to make his Zoetrope thrive with all his success with The Godfather. This was before American Graffiti and Star Wars.


I guess my explaination was passed over then.

So is it still Lucas's fault about Zoetrope?

Quote from: Chest Rockwell
After I bought it the first thing I did was put in Return of the Jedi and went to the 49th chapter and witnessed Hayden Christensen as the spirit of Darth Vader. It was stupid. It better be damn-well justified in Episode III. What I figured was they wanted to show Anakin and not Darth Vader (Anakin before he went bad), which isn't a terrible thing, I guess.


He's not a "spirit of Darth Vader," and it did show Anakin originally, but Sebastian Shaw was replaced with Christenson. I explained the why on the bottom of Page 15 and Lucas verifies it on the commentary track.

Quote from: Ghostboy
I love the outtake where Chewie talks in a british accent.


There's more. In one outtake Chewie catches on fire:

To access a Star Wars Trilogy gag reel, go to the Video Game & Still Galleries menu page. Using your remote, press "10+", "1" (or "11" depending on your player) and wait for the pause as the player accepts the input (note that a small box next to R2-D2 will illuminate if you're on the right track). Then press "3" and wait for the pause. Finally, press "8".
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on September 26, 2004, 10:23:57 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
however, watching the doc gave me a greater appreciation/respect for lucas and the struggles he went through.  i guess by the time he had any money/power to put into something like zoetrope the time for that had passed.  so while i still think he should be putting out others movies at lucasfilm, i guess i dont think he's a total dick for not doing it.


Quote from: MacGuffin
The doc tells you that the studio didn't back THX 1138, and thus cancelled all the deals made with Zoetrope. It's not Lucas's fault his film wasn't well received. Lucas and Coppola did what they wanted - made films their own way. Coppola continued to make his Zoetrope thrive with all his success with The Godfather. This was before American Graffiti and Star Wars.


i didnt mean it was his fault for making a bad movie or something.  but since it was his movie that broke the camels back, he was technically 'responsible' for the demise.  coppola continued to make his films under the zoetrope banner but the doc says that the studio all but collapsed basically.  i thought originally george, would've tried to get the studio set up as a communal thing like originally where they would try to make films with all the other zoetrope guys/gals, but its not bothering me as much since probably a decade had passed by the time he had any chance to do anything really about it.  chances are, had zoetrope succeeded, we would never have had a star wars or godfather or indiana jones so, i guess it all worked out for the best anyways.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on September 26, 2004, 10:36:54 PM
did he adjust the CGI dancer/singer in Jabba's palace in any way?.......Sly Snoodles or something like that I think.

as far as cheesy lines in the originals.......i don't think there are many cheesy lines........i mean, really step back (its hard because Star Wars is such a part of our culture) and think of how odd the whole thing is........a Wookie named Chewbacca?.............Lucas really took a risk with A New Hope..........and i think the dialogue is really great, but it helped that he had great actors.................now with the prequels, the dialogue is just bad, horribly bad.........and it probably hurts that all of the actors now know of Star Wars and had a preconceived notion of it, whereas the original actors took the parts most likely because the believed in the script.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on September 26, 2004, 11:23:54 PM
Quote from: bigideas
did he adjust the CGI dancer/singer in Jabba's palace in any way?.......Sly Snoodles or something like that I think.


In the original 1983 version Sy was a puppet. For the 1997 Special Edition, Lucas replaced her with a CGI version, adding backup dancers and even changing the song.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: SHAFTR on September 27, 2004, 12:12:00 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: bigideas
did he adjust the CGI dancer/singer in Jabba's palace in any way?.......Sly Snoodles or something like that I think.


In the original 1983 version Sy was a puppet. For the 1997 Special Edition, Lucas replaced her with a CGI version, adding backup dancers and even changing the song.


that scene is so awful....ohh man.

Anyone else think it's funny/sad that the CGI looks more fake and cartoony than the stuff done originally.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on September 27, 2004, 07:03:37 AM
Quote from: SHAFTR
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: bigideas
did he adjust the CGI dancer/singer in Jabba's palace in any way?.......Sly Snoodles or something like that I think.


In the original 1983 version Sy was a puppet. For the 1997 Special Edition, Lucas replaced her with a CGI version, adding backup dancers and even changing the song.


that scene is so awful....ohh man.

Anyone else think it's funny/sad that the CGI looks more fake and cartoony than the stuff done originally.


yes, i agree. i was hoping he adjusted that CGI scene in the 97 SE in the same way i've heard he made Jabba more realistic in A New Hope.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ravi on September 27, 2004, 01:10:26 PM
http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?r=0&s=1&c=4931&n=1&burl=r%3D0%26s%3D1

From IMDb.com

Fans Discover Glitch in 'Star Wars' DVD Soundtrack

Fans of John Williams are up in arms over an apparent glitch in the new Star Wars DVD set in which the left and right channels fed to the rear speakers in surround sound are reversed in the original Star Wars movie (Episode 4). John Takis, who frequently analyzes film scores for Internet groups, points out that the violins can be heard coming from the left surround-sound speakers and the cellos from the left. "It is essentially a 124-minute audio glitch," Takis writes on the John Williams fansite, www.JW-Music.net. "The sound effects are correctly positioned in the surround channels. It's just the music that's backwards." Takis also takes issue with other aspects of the sound mix for the original movie. "Remember the awesome fanfare version of the Force theme that kicks off the Death Star battle?" he writes "Good luck hearing it this time around—it's virtually inaudible."
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Dtm115300 on February 01, 2005, 10:00:25 PM
Hey just a quick question. I hear somewhere that ILM edits all their films on their editing software. One which they made. Anyone know if this is true?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on March 31, 2005, 06:03:20 AM
Carrie to reveal Star Wars secrets
 
Carrie Fisher has let slip that she's set to reveal the secrets of the original Star Wars films in a behind-the-scenes expose of the original sci-fi trilogy.

Actress-turned-novelist Fisher, 48, revealed that she kept a detailed diary during the late 70s and early 80s.

It includes the time she played Princess Leia Organa opposite Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill.

She explains, "My publisher has told me not to talk about it... oh, what the hell. When I was in Star Wars, I kept diaries. Big books full of what went on, what I thought, what I did. I am going to write them all up as a narrative. It will be riveting. Once I get started, that is. I'm months behind already."
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on March 31, 2005, 03:49:37 PM
Yeah, but picky picky six months ago.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on April 24, 2005, 08:24:59 AM
At the Celebration III convention in Indianapolis this weekend, George Lucas let it slip that a new DVD box set of all 6 films is in the works, possibly to include an all-new bonus disc containing deleted scenes from the original trilogy. Expect no further changes in the films themselves. In addition, don't look for a high-definition release of the films in 2007. Lucas also confirmed that the digitally-screened version of Episode III will be slightly longer than the traditional film version. You can read more from The Force.net. Note that the story contains what some may consider to be a slight spoiler about the upcoming film...

C3: More from George Lucas at Media Q&A

At the end of his presentation, George Lucas took part in a media Q&A backstage:

*The all digital version is longer, I believed he metioned a dagobah scene in that version but not in the regular theatrical version.

*He confirmed 2 TV projects: One is continuing with the Clone Wars cartoons and the other is the live action series.

*Another box set is in the works: Looks like a 6 disc box set with all episodes 1-6. Possibly a 7th disc, maybe with deleted scenes from the original trilogy. He was asked if he would be changing things again in the movies, prequels or original. He replied that everything is the way he wants them now. As far as the rumored super archival edition due out in 2007 on super hi-def dvd, there is no truth to that.

*He really wants to rerelease the OT back in to theatres via the new 3-D technology.

*No episodes 7, 8, 9.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Redlum on April 24, 2005, 11:15:38 AM
Why release a longer, digital edition of the film? Is this some lame attempt to promote digital projection?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on April 24, 2005, 11:15:42 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin
*Another box set is in the works: Looks like a 6 disc box set with all episodes 1-6. Possibly a 7th disc, maybe with deleted scenes from the original trilogy.

WHAT....A....BASTARD.  :yabbse-thumbdown:
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: life_boy on April 24, 2005, 08:58:02 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
He was asked if he would be changing things again in the movies, prequels or original.
He replied that everything is the way he wants them now.

Quote from: themodernage02
WHAT....A....BASTARD. :yabbse-thumbdown:  
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on June 30, 2005, 01:20:32 AM
Old Star Wars Gaining New Dimension
Updating the trilogies for 3-D.
 
George Lucas is forging ahead with the painstaking process of adapting all six Star Wars films to a three-dimensional format. According to various reports, the films could be ready for re-release in 3-D within two or three years. According to earlier comments made by George Lucas, a one-film-per-year schedule would also be a possibility, allowing more time to convert the traditionally-filmed original trilogy.

Does seeing Star Wars in three dimensions add to the experience? Lucas and producer Rick McCallum seem to think it does. After viewing 3-D test footage from Episodes II and IV, McCallum had this to say: "The images have just been startling [in] quality, especially if you have a big science-fiction or effects-laden action movie. You start to see things that you just couldn't see in the 2D version."

At least 1500 cinemas worldwide will probably need to be capable of screening the new format in order for the movies' conversion and release to be viable. That's a far cry from the 460 or so cinemas outfitted for 3-D that currently exist. McCallum anticipates that number growing by leaps and bound, however, with countries like Ireland, Britain, and China all constructing hundreds of 3D-ready cinemas over the next few years.

Now Playing Magazine takes a look at the conversion of Star Wars in their latest issue, with Industrial Light & Magic's Dennis Muren giving some insight. Although ILM is not doing the work themselves, Muren has been looking in on the process.

"You know, this post process that this company is doing, it works. The guys that run it, hundreds of people sit there and they make decisions about what should be close [to the audience] and what should be far, and they rotoscope and outline them and the computer sort of throws in [as well]. I don't need to be a part of that. It just happens. It's a service. You pay them X amount of dollars and they give you back your movie in 3-D. They haven't [fully] done Star Wars yet, but they've done parts of Casablanca and Wizard of Oz. They did part of one of the early Star Wars films – they did a lot of things for the demo. And it looks great."

For all his involvement with Hollywood's latest computer-generated effects, Muren feels that 3-D is where the excitement is right now. While CG extends what was already being done before, 3-D adds a new facet to film and creates an experience that can't be replicated with a television and DVD player at home.

"I don't know if you have seen many great 3-D presentations, but they're just amazing and that can really bring you much more into a film than what you're seeing now. And when digital is in place in the theaters, that's going to pretty much be it. The glasses are small and lightweight, you don't get headaches anymore, it looks amazing, [and] you can design effects scenes in depth."
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: hedwig on June 30, 2005, 02:47:42 AM
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Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on May 03, 2006, 11:20:13 PM
Original Unaltered Star Wars Trilogy on DVD!
Source: Lucasfilm May 3, 2006

Lucasfilm has announced that this September fans can look forward to the long-awaited DVD release of the original theatrical incarnations of the classic "Star Wars" trilogy!

In response to overwhelming demand, Lucasfilm Ltd. and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will release attractively priced individual two-disc releases of "Star Wars," "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi." Each release includes the 2004 digitally remastered version of the movie, as well as the original theatrical edition of the film. That means you'll be able to enjoy "Star Wars" as it first appeared in 1977, "Empire" in 1980, and "Jedi" in 1983.

See the title crawl to "Star Wars" before it was known as "Episode IV"; see the pioneering, if dated, motion control model work on the attack on the Death Star; groove to Lapti Nek or the Ewok Celebration song like you did when you were a kid; and yes, see Han Solo shoot first.

This release will only be available for a limited time: from September 12th to December 31st. The international release will follow on or about the same day. Each original theatrical version will feature Dolby 2.0 Surround sound, close-captioning, and subtitles in English, French and Spanish for their U.S. release. International sound and subtitling vary by territory.

"Over the years, a truly countless number of fans have told us that they would love to see and own the original version that they remember experiencing in theaters," said Jim Ward, President of LucasArts and Senior Vice President of Lucasfilm Ltd. "We returned to the Lucasfilm Archives to search exhaustively for source material that could be presented on DVD. This is something that we're very excited to be able to give to fans in response to their continuing enthusiasm for Star Wars. Topping it off with a new interactive adventure makes September 12 a red-letter day for Star Wars fans."
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ghostboy on May 03, 2006, 11:27:11 PM
Wow, that's a lot sooner than I was expecting. I'm glad I never bought those eBay editions now.

Oh -- and goddamn you, Lucasfilm!
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: grand theft sparrow on May 05, 2006, 11:58:13 AM
IF this is true, they're just going to show up on the inevitable giant 24 disc special edition of the whole saga that will come out sometime next year that no one is talking about. 

But why take a chance?  I never bought that ET with the original version on it and I've been kicking myself ever since.  Because of that, I can't throw my laserdisc player out.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ravi on May 05, 2006, 12:58:21 PM
But why take a chance?  I never bought that ET with the original version on it and I've been kicking myself ever since.  Because of that, I can't throw my laserdisc player out.

The 2-disc DVD of ET has both the original and the walkie-talkie-CGI edition.  I see it all the time in used DVD stores.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: grand theft sparrow on May 08, 2006, 08:45:00 AM
But why take a chance?  I never bought that ET with the original version on it and I've been kicking myself ever since.  Because of that, I can't throw my laserdisc player out.

The 2-disc DVD of ET has both the original and the walkie-talkie-CGI edition.  I see it all the time in used DVD stores.

I haven't seen it anywhere in a long time, just the walkie-talkie edition.  But I'll keep looking.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on May 17, 2006, 12:45:28 AM
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Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: picolas on May 17, 2006, 12:58:32 AM
i demand the 1997 versions. those were the ones i grew up with.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on May 17, 2006, 03:31:13 PM
We've confirmed something that we'd begun to suspect... and it's probably going to disappoint a lot of you. It certainly disappoints us here at The Bits. Those new DVD editions of the Star Wars films? The original theatrical versions of the films are going to be non-anamorphic (our original post on this indicated otherwise, but we have confirmed that the widescreen versions will be letterboxed only). What this likely means is that Lucasfilm has simply re-purposed the previous non-anamorphic transfers that were done back in 1995 for the last laserdisc and VHS release of the "original" versions of the films. And with that, our enthusiasm for this DVD release has just dropped through the floor. Anamorphic-enhanced versions of the theatrical editions, we'd buy in a heartbeat. But what we're going to get instead is little better than a ported-over laserdisc. In this day and age, releasing a widescreen film without anamorphic enhancement on DVD is just unacceptable. Does Lucasfilm really think fans want those versions of the films on DVD so badly that people just won't care? Yes Virginia, they do. How many versions of these films do you suppose Lucasfilm will try to get fans to buy in high-def over the coming years? And think about it... you just know the studio has to be prepping yet another standard DVD release for next year's 30th Anniversary of the original Star Wars. Do you suppose this means that the theatrical editions won't be included in the super-über box set of all six films? Probably. Ugh.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on May 17, 2006, 10:13:00 PM
why george, why?

is making a film anamorphic a huge undertaking?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ravi on May 17, 2006, 10:34:51 PM
I'm sure the anamorphic versions will be along in about a year so that fans will have to buy them yet again.  With these non-anamorphic transfers, the fans have no real reason to replace their LD-sourced bootlegs.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on May 17, 2006, 10:45:42 PM
maybe, but there's this huge 'what if it ain't' hanging over it all, because i really want these versions.

with george having his own studio, i figured it would be no problem to make the anamorphic. that's why i'm trying to find out if that is something very expensive to do because it just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Redlum on May 18, 2006, 04:33:43 AM
That bastard. The thing is, presumably when the films were telecined for laserdisc they were done so at a higher resolution than the format itself(that being 544 X 480). If this isnt the case, will they just be upscaling to acheive DVD's resolution? An upscaled, 2.35:1, non-anamoprhic transfer...nice. I wonder if this is some ruse to convince the uninformed of how much better the SE's and Prequels by giving them an uneven playing field for comparison.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on May 18, 2006, 12:29:01 PM
From The Digital Bits:

Well... it seems we've started a bit of a firestorm with this business we posted yesterday about the original versions of the Star Wars films on the forthcoming (9/12) DVD release being offered in non-anamorphic widescreen video only. So be it. Sometimes, you have to call it like you see it. The news is absolutely true by the way. We've confirmed it specifically with reps of both Lucasfilm and Fox. It is no rumor.

By the way, for those of you who don't know what anamorphic means on DVD, we refer you to our in-depth guide on the subject.

What you will, in fact, be getting on the second disc in each of these new 2-disc sets (unless something changes dramatically and soon) are transfers of the original films that were done for the 1993 "definitive collection" laserdisc box set release. (By way of confirmation, Lucasfilm's Jim Ward had this to say about the transfers in the recent USA Today story: "It is state of the art, as of 1993, and that's not as good as state of the art 2006.") Great. Thanks. Swell.

So the transfers, and the technology used to produce them, are MORE than a decade old. Of course, they're going to be digitally cleaned up a bit, and even a non-anamorphic transfer is going to look better in digital video on DVD than the same transfer would when presented on an analog laserdisc. Colors are going to bleed less, detail will be a little sharper. There's also apparently an additional bit of tweaking being done, because Episode IV will feature the original 1977 version of the opening crawl (sans the "Episode IV" text) which has NEVER been released on home video before, save for in excerpted form in the 2004 Empire of Dreams DVD documentary (which, we feel strangely compelled to point out, WAS ANAMORPHIC WIDESCREEN). In any case, the bottom line is that the transfers we're getting on DVD are old and they're non-anamorphic. The video resolution and quality is going to pale in comparison to the look of most other widescreen films on DVD.

A lot of people have been e-mailing us asking why Lucasfilm doesn't simply do new anamorphic, high-definition transfers of these versions of the films. Well... after confirming and posting the non-anamorphic information yesterday, we started making follow-up calls to various experts and industry insiders... you know, just to figure out what the hell was really going on. Were we crazy in feeling a little outraged about this? Was this really just a half-assed effort designed to milk Star Wars fans yet again? What was the real reason for the lack of new anamorphic transfers?

It's been reported previously that when Lucas went back to the original negatives of the Star Wars films in the mid 1990s, they were found to be in bad shape. Such bad shape, in fact, that had they not been restored immediately, the films could have been lost forever. So restoration is exactly what Lucas had done. Except that when he was creating the new 1997 Special Edition versions of the films... he cut the original negatives. So the original negatives of the theatrical versions no longer exist. Okay, we knew that. But what's the big deal? What about the original interpositive prints? What about high-quality release prints? Why can't Lucasfilm just use either of those elements to do a new transfer for DVD?

Well... at the same time as he was preparing the 1997 versions, Lucas apparently went on a little tear and recalled every release print of the theatrical versions that he could get his hands on, and he had them all destroyed. Which means that when Lucas said back in 1997 that the original theatrical versions of the Star Wars films no longer existed, he was serious. He apparently tried hard to make sure of it.

Nonetheless (and thankfully), we know for a FACT that beautiful dye transfer prints of the original versions of the films still exist in private hands, and that additional copies are preserved in a number of film archives around the world. What's more, Lucas would have been foolhardy if he didn't keep the original interpositives carefully stored in a climate-controlled vault for preservation's sake. Come on... of course he did. No one is THAT stupid that they'd just trash all the original elements of the films that made them rich beyond the dreams of avarice. In any case, neither the man himself nor senior Lucasfilm executives are willing to admit to that they exist, because as Lucas has said many times in the past, "They no longer exist."

So what are we left with? Either the films truly don't exist anymore, so it simply isn't possible to give them to you in state of the art quality (unlikely in the extreme, despite public and private statements to the contrary)... or Lucasfilm DOES have copies of the original versions in their vaults, and they're just unwilling (or too damn cheap) to spend the money to give them to you in state of the art quality... yet.

If the former is true, there can be no future anamorphic release of the original versions on DVD, and there can be no high-def release on the new Blu-ray Disc or HD-DVD formats. Laserdisc is as good as it will ever get for those original theatrical cuts. If, on the other hand, the latter is true (and we believe it is)... Lucasfilm's greed is truly boundless.

Bottom line: This notion that Lucasfilm is doing the fans a favor by finally giving them the original versions on DVD in 2006... but in 1993 laserdisc quality... is baloney. In fact, it's unacceptable. Even though most of them probably don't even know what anamorphic means on DVD, or why they should care about it, the fact remains that the fans are getting bilked. We hate to say it, because we've known many of the folks at Lucasfilm for years now. But someone HAS to say it. It needs to be said. Lucasfilm can and should do better. Who knows? Maybe they're already planning to do better for the 30th Anniversary of the original Star Wars next year... and this is just one more bite at the pie in the meantime.

The strange thing is, Lucas himself doesn't seem to think the fans are even interested in the original theatrical versions of the films on DVD. Witness his comments in this recent interview at MTV.com: "It's just the original versions, as they were," Lucas said. "We didn't do anything to it at all. But we're not sure how many people want that." That's just an insane thing to say given how many Most Wanted DVD lists the original Star Wars films top around the Net, and the folks at Lucasfilm have to know it. So here's an unsettling thought... Lucas finally agrees to include the original versions on the new DVDs, but he won't pony up for new transfers. Do you suppose there's a deliberate reason for that? If people don't buy them because of the lack of quality, Lucas can simply say, "See? People didn't buy them. They don't want 'em." And if they do buy them, but in a year or two start asking for better quality, Lucas can say, "Gimme a break. I already gave them to you on DVD. Now quit bugging me about it." D'oh!

In any case, rest assured that we're as sick of talking about the Star Wars films on disc as you probably are of hearing it. But our motto here at The Bits is right up there in our logo: "Celebrating Film in the Digital Age." It's awfully damn hard to find anything worth celebrating about this. Which is a real shame... because it was pretty damn cool news there for a little while.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on May 23, 2006, 04:49:10 PM
Lucasfilm: Original Star Wars 'bonus'
Fans protest release of laserdisc prints on DVD
By Susanne Ault, Video Business Online

MAY 23 | In the wake of extreme fan protests, Lucasfilm is positioning its release of the original ’70s theatrical versions of the first three Star Wars movies as bonus features.

As groused about on various DVD enthusiast Web sites, including www.thedigitalbits.com and  www.hometheaterforum.com, Lucasfilm confirmed the studio is not remastering these early films. The prints for the Sept. 12 DVDs of Star Wars: Episode IV—A New Hope, Star Wars: Episode V—The Empire Strikes Back and Star Wars: Episode VI—Return of the Jedi come from laserdiscs of the films released in the mid ’90s. This means that Episodes IV-V1 will be presented in widescreen but not anamorphic, thereby not making full use of modern TV screens.

Lucasfilm acknowledges that some imperfections are embedded in the prints, but director of publicity John Singh said the company felt there was little need to invest resources into sprucing up films that have already been restored to pristine form.

Special edition versions of the films with additions made by George Lucas were released in theaters in the ’90s and on DVD in 2004.

“We put a lot of time and effort into digitally restoring the negatives for the 2004 DVD releases,” Singh said. “The late ’90s theatrical versions represent George’s vision for Star Wars. We hoped that by releasing the original movies as a bonus disc, it would be a way to give the fans something that is fun. We certainly didn’t want to be become a source of frustration for fans.”

Although the prints aren’t in the best of shape, the masters used for the laserdiscs “do look good,” Singh assured.

Both old and new versions of Episodes IV-VI will be included in the Sept. 14 Star Wars sets, to be distributed by 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment. The revamped ’90s theatrical versions will be offered in anamorphic widescreen.

This release also represents the first time the movies will be available individually.

Fans have threatened to boycott buying the original Star Wars films if they aren’t cleaned up.

“These are the versions that the fans saw as kids back in the ’70s—this was how they grew up,” said Ron Epstein, HomeTheaterForum.com co-owner. “George doesn’t like these versions, and it’s not the way he wants his legacy to be remembered. But fans [are saying], ‘You aren’t doing us a favor [in putting out] what basically amounts to a laserdisc transfer.”

Aware of the uproar, Lucasfilm is in the process of directly contacting its upset fan base in an attempt to smooth things over.

Some fans had been speculating that Lucasfilm was saving its big gun efforts for the new generation DVD formats. But the company said that at this time, there are no plans to release the original ’70s Star Wars versions in high-definition.

“We absolutely appreciate the fact that these fans are so passionate,” Singh said. “It’s indicative of the fact that they care so much about Star Wars.”
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Ravi on May 23, 2006, 08:16:17 PM
“We absolutely appreciate the fact that these fans are so passionatekeep buying SW films and merchandise over and over,” Singh said.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Redlum on July 12, 2006, 11:16:50 AM
Quote from: thedigitalbits.com
And here's a little something that's very interesting: Our friend Arnaud Calistri, who runs the DVDRama.com  website in France, e-mailed me yesterday to say that Fox France has confirmed with him that the original versions of the Star Wars films to be released on DVD there will be in anamorphic widescreen (enhanced for widescreen 16x9 TVs). As many of you know, they were announced for release here in the States and elsewhere in non-anamorphic (letterboxed) widescreen only, causing a furor among fans (and rightly so). This news, if true, means one of two things: Either Lucasfilm quickly got their act together when fans complained and created new anamorphic masters for the DVD release everywhere (and it just hasn't been announced here in the States yet), or France is getting better DVDs that the rest of the world. If they DID get their act together, expect Lucasfilm's fan relations guru, Steve Sansweet, to make a massive deal about it the company's Star Wars panel at Comic-Con next week. If they DIDN'T get their act together, and France IS getting better discs, expect fans to make a massive deal about it. We'll ask all the right people to see if we can find out the truth of the matter. Of course, we'll let you know.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on July 12, 2006, 04:51:45 PM
Quote from: thedigitalbits.com
And here's a little something that's very interesting: Our friend Arnaud Calistri, who runs the DVDRama.com  website in France, e-mailed me yesterday to say that Fox France has confirmed with him that the original versions of the Star Wars films to be released on DVD there will be in anamorphic widescreen (enhanced for widescreen 16x9 TVs). As many of you know, they were announced for release here in the States and elsewhere in non-anamorphic (letterboxed) widescreen only, causing a furor among fans (and rightly so). This news, if true, means one of two things: Either Lucasfilm quickly got their act together when fans complained and created new anamorphic masters for the DVD release everywhere (and it just hasn't been announced here in the States yet), or France is getting better DVDs that the rest of the world. If they DID get their act together, expect Lucasfilm's fan relations guru, Steve Sansweet, to make a massive deal about it the company's Star Wars panel at Comic-Con next week. If they DIDN'T get their act together, and France IS getting better discs, expect fans to make a massive deal about it. We'll ask all the right people to see if we can find out the truth of the matter. Of course, we'll let you know.

We've got some more interesting standard DVD news to report today, starting with a follow-up on that French Star Wars DVD controversy we mentioned the other day. We've gotten a follow-up e-mail from our friend Arnaud at DVDRama in France. He's actually had the chance to see, with his own two eyes, the new Star Wars DVDs being released there, and it turns out Fox France was wrong. Someone in marketing over there apparently still doesn't know what anamorphic means. The special edition versions of the films on Disc One of each set are anamorphic, but the original theatrical editions on Disc Two of each are definitely NOT anamorphic. They're just letterboxed widescreen as we expected. Fox France has apparently apologized for the confusion, and we definitely appreciate Arnaud's efforts in confirming the truth of the situation. So to sum up, France is getting the same sub-par Star Wars DVDs as the rest of us.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on August 24, 2006, 05:34:08 PM
From thedigitalbits:

A follow-up on something we've been telling you to expect for quite while now. 2007, as you may well be aware, is the 30th anniversary of the original Star Wars' debut in theaters. You'd have to be stupid not to know that Lucasfilm is going to have big DVD release plans with which to celebrate the anniversary, and we've been telling you that was the case for many months now. Indeed, during our last visit to the Ranch for the DVD release of Episode III, producer Rick McCallum confirmed that a box set of all six films was going to happen eventually, and animation director Rob Coleman even let it slip that the puppet Yoda from Episode I had already been replaced with a new CG Yoda to match Episodes II & III for the "future" release. T-Bone over at Star Wars Universe recently speculated about this box set, and we've been quietly checking in with our industry sources on it as well. Well, we've confirmed it: There IS a big, ultimate, 6-film Star Wars anniversary DVD box set planned for 2007. There will be more changes to the films, and there will be LOTS of new, never-before-seen special features - all the good stuff that was held back by Lucasfilm from the original Trilogy DVD release a few years ago. Think deleted scenes and more. We don't know if good, genuinely-REMASTERED versions of the original theatrical editions of the films will be included or not (though how you could call the set "ultimate" without them, we don't know). We don't expect high-definition versions yet, as those formats are just too new. We don't have ANY other details for you yet, so please don't ask. But as you consider whether or not to purchase the "limited edition" DVDs due on 9/12... we thought you should know that more IS absolutely on the way next year. 'Nuff said for now.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on August 31, 2006, 07:08:06 PM
http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/release/video/f20060825/index.html

shot by shot comparison between episode iv 1977 - 2004

i'm still hoping we'll see some press release stating they'll make the original anamorphic

Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: grand theft sparrow on September 01, 2006, 08:17:58 AM
Like I said back in May...

IF this is true, [the unaltered trilogy is] just going to show up on the inevitable giant 24 disc special edition of the whole saga that will come out sometime next year that no one is talking about. 

And I'm betting they will show up anamorphic.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on September 01, 2006, 10:27:18 PM
this could be very true, but i'm a little scared it might not happen that way.

if it doesn't happen, the price of those special editions will probably skyrocket.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on February 10, 2007, 12:17:12 PM
Lucas Planning New Star Wars DVD
Source: The Associated Press

In an Associated Press reports on Hasbro's earnings, it states that "Star Wars" will remain a force to be reckoned with:

Looking ahead, Verrecchia said he expected Star Wars to continue to be a strong performer with Lucas planning a video release for this year's 30th anniversary, a Star Wars animated TV show next year and a live-action Star Wars TV show in 2009.

"He and his studio have a lot going on over the next several years to support the franchise," Verrecchia said.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on February 10, 2007, 08:56:35 PM
George Lucas: Empire Was the Worst Star Wars Film!
Source: Cinematical

On Wednesday of this week, entertainment blogger David Poland threw up a rather perfunctory account of the Publicist's Guild luncheon: "I kinda like this particular high-school event. There is no pressure on me to report. I am comfortable knowing that this is a group that will never nominate me for their journalistic award." But pressure or no, he did report one item of interest, two days late. Yesterday afternoon, Poland tossed in an update on the lunch that he forgot to dole out originally: "George Lucas, giving the award to Sid Ganis, who was the in-house publicist on Star Wars: Episode Five - The Empire Strikes Back, said, 'Sid is the reason why The Empire Strikes Back is always written about as the best of the films, when it actually was the worst one.'"
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Pubrick on February 11, 2007, 12:01:53 AM
George Lucas: Empire Was the Worst Star Wars Film!
i'm so glad i was never emotionally invested in these films any more than i am in Back to the Future, maybe less. cos these days it's very hard to be a star wars fan and hold your head high,. it's like being a simpsons fan, but much worse, it's like if all the simpsons writers came out and said "seasons 3 to 7 were actually the worst years of the series, the new ones are the best, WE BELIEVE THIS." which is not far from the truth really since only the voice talent think the new ones are truly bad.

the modern George Lucas is like having a parent who constantly gives bad advice to his grown up kids. you hav to remember that they raised you well, but now they're just useless. George Lucas is his own R. Lee Ermey.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on February 11, 2007, 01:58:19 PM
George Lucas: Empire Was the Worst Star Wars Film!

Further solidifying that Lucas has no idea what he's doing anymore.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Derek on February 11, 2007, 04:07:58 PM
George Lucas: Empire Was the Worst Star Wars Film!

Further solidifying that Lucas has no idea what he's doing anymore.

Episode III was pretty good.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on February 12, 2007, 12:36:13 PM
Source: Hollywood Elsewhere

George Lucas was definitely joking the other day, I've been told, when he said The Empire Strikes Back was the "worst" Star Wars film, etc. "Say what you will about Lucas, his personality, his qualities as a filmmaker or lack thereof," says a person who attended the Publicist Guild luncheon in question. "But on that day, in that speech, he was 100% making a joke.

"He opened his speech -- on a day filled with teleprompters -- by saying that he never used a script when making a speech, something that drove his publicists crazy. (He's not exactly a great public speaker, either, so perhaps he should change that habit.) At any rate, he spoke for about five minutes in a seemingly off-the-cuff manner, and made several 'jokes.' Others can judge whether or not he was actually funny, but yeah, he was joking."
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on February 12, 2007, 02:50:50 PM
he is NOT funny. i thought that was established with the jar jar binks character.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on April 28, 2007, 11:28:36 AM
On Monday, April 23 2007, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences screened Star Wars as part of their Great to Be Nominated series. Before the start of the show, they showed this special clip as a message of warning to members in the audience:


http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/bts/article/mov/swcellphone.mov
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on July 05, 2007, 10:24:14 PM
i noticed Best Buy has the stand alone verson of A New Hope on sale for $6.99 (and also Ep III) this week.

could this mean another super box is about to come out............with anamorphic original cuts?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Redlum on July 06, 2007, 03:09:34 AM
I doubt it. But given their limited run and their 'BargainBin' status, it could mean the letterbox backlash worked.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on July 06, 2007, 11:16:10 AM
oh wait, there still hasn't been a super box set with all 6 films released, right?

1977........2007............30 years......???
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on August 27, 2007, 07:51:04 PM
NASA's Star Wars Stunt
Agency to send Luke's lightsaber into space.

In honor of the 30th anniversary of Star Wars, NASA will launch Luke Skywalker's original Jedi lightsaber into space along with the crew of the space shuttle Discovery. The launch is slated for October.

Chewbacca will officially hand the lightsaber over to NASA's Space Center Houston during a ceremony at the Oakland International Airport. The ceremony will include characters from a galaxy far, far away including Boba Fett, Jango Fett and X-Wing pilots, Jedi, and Stormtroopers.

This will be followed by a spectacular departure aboard a Southwest Airlines flight as Chewbacca and his galactic friends help push back the airplane on the tarmac.

Once the flight lands in Houston, Stormtroopers will help escort the lightsaber off the plane as R2-D2 and other famous Star Wars characters kick-off the second half of the celebration at Gate 47 in William P. Hobby Airport.

The fanfare will conclude outside baggage claim where the lightsaber will be transported by a caravan of Hummers with an official City of Webster police escort to NASA's Space Center Houston where it will be secured inside the lunar vault.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on August 28, 2007, 04:18:23 PM
oh wait, there still hasn't been a super box set with all 6 films released, right?

1977........2007............30 years......???

i'm guessing they'll be released in blu-ray/hd-dvd format. i remember george lucas stalled the release of the original trilogy on dvd way back in 1999 (i think). he went on about a format called blu-ray. at that time blu-ray didn't even exist and was probably going through development hell. he was also prepping the other star movies in the new trilogy. i don't know why i'm telling you, probably to make me look smarter or something. but in this case, maybe there will be maxed blu-ray dvd's of the original trilogy including both the untouched and the added special effects version.

sorry if i'm repeating things that maybe is mentioned in this thread.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on August 29, 2007, 12:36:37 PM
that will do me no good as i don't have a blu-ray player or have any plans to get one anytime soon.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on January 05, 2009, 02:09:05 PM
I noticed they recently put out a new box set of each trilogy.
I believe the original trilogy has the original theatrical cuts as an extra, but still non-anamorphic.

I'm not gonna dig, but I'm pretty sure somewhere they said those 2 disc SE's were going to be the only source for the original theatrical cuts....so maybe that leaves hope for anamorphic restored original theatrical editions???
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on April 06, 2010, 12:11:59 AM
Lucasfilm eyes animated 'Star Wars' TV comedy
'Daily Show' scribe, 'Robot Chicken' duo behind series
Source: Variety

Lucasfilm Animation is developing a new animated "Star Wars" TV comedy series.

Daytime Emmy and Gemini Award-winner Jennifer Hill ("The Backyardians") will produce with Todd Grimes ("Back at the Barnyard") directing. Brendan Hay ("The Daily Show") will be among the writers and Seth Green and Matthew Senreich, creators and executive producers of "Robot Chicken," will have "creative involvement.

Project marks the second "Star Wars" skein created by Lucasfilm Animation. The first was "Star Wars: The Clone Wars," which premiered in 2008 on the Cartoon Network. Series is currently in its second season.

No start date or network for the comedy skein have been announced.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Alexandro on April 06, 2010, 12:49:44 AM
the dark side is so seductive.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on April 06, 2010, 07:54:39 AM
There's no direct George Lucas involvment so it's must be good.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Fernando on April 06, 2010, 10:58:19 AM
the dark $green$ side is so seductive.

fixt.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Derek on April 17, 2010, 10:48:13 PM
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4461

Probably Oct. 2011 for the blu-rays.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: picolas on April 18, 2010, 01:44:48 AM
i will never buy the prequels.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Pubrick on April 18, 2010, 08:05:44 AM
i will never buy the prequels.

i wonder if there's even as big a fanboy market for these atrocities as there were at the time of release.

apart from completists, apologists, and plain idiots ---- nevermind, this will sell millions.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Derek on April 18, 2010, 09:28:42 PM
Hard to believe they're still finding stuff for the blu-ray editions. Lucasfilm I'm sure has a team dedicated to doing just that over the past decade or so at least. Probably more along the lines of doling it out over a few releases.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on April 19, 2010, 02:49:00 AM
I'm sure they'll have plenty of special features to add if they make some additional "making of previous editions" and "the history of star wars versions" documentaries.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on April 19, 2010, 12:14:35 PM
You'll know when they've run out of material when they finally put out The Star Wars Holiday Special as a special feature.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Derek on August 15, 2010, 11:44:07 AM
New Jedi deleted scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdJ0E7HbTKc&feature=player_embedded

Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: MacGuffin on August 16, 2010, 01:14:33 AM
‘Star Wars’ Films Coming to Blu-ray Next Year
By DAVE ITZKOFF; NY Times
 
Though nearly 35 years of “Star Wars” fandom have yielded all kinds of memorabilia inspired by George Lucas’s outer-space epic, including light saber lookalikes and wearable replicas of Princess Leia’s slave costume, one holy grail has lately eluded fans: a video version of the “Star Wars” films that takes the fullest advantage of their top-of-the-line home theater systems.

That’s a Death Star-sized void that Lucasfilm plans to fill shortly. On Saturday, the studio is to announce that it will release all six live-action “Star Wars” features on Blu-ray DVD in fall 2011. A boxed set containing the Blu-ray versions of the movies, spanning from 1977’s “Star Wars” through the final 2005 prequel, “Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith,” will mark the first time the films have been offered in a high-definition home format, and will include documentary features and previously unseen footage.

Given Mr. Lucas’s exacting standards for film presentations (he founded the THX company) and Lucasfilm’s embrace of digital movie technology (digital projection was used for the theatrical release of all three “Star Wars” prequels, and the last two prequels were shot digitally), many fans expected that high-definition versions of the “Star Wars” features would soon follow.

But in a telephone interview, Mr. Lucas said he had been waiting to see if the Blu-ray format would be widely accepted by home viewers.

“We’ve been wanting to do it as soon as we possibly could, but we just wanted to do it when enough people would be able to buy it and see it,” Mr. Lucas said on Friday from the Star Wars Celebration V convention in Orlando, Fla.

When the original “Star Wars” movies were released on VHS in the early 1980s (along with other short-lived home video formats), Mr. Lucas said sales were slow to take off at first.

“We came out with ‘Star Wars’ right at the beginning of VHS,” he said, “and we sold 300,000 copies.” Within a few years, he added, “They were selling 1 million, 2 million, 10 million. So we learned from that experience that if you’re too early in the marketplace, there’s just not enough demand for it.”

In the case of Blu-ray, at least the potential for galactic-scale sales exists: a recent report by the media firm DEG: The Digital Entertainment Group said that nearly 2 million Blu-ray players were sold in the first half of 2010, an increase of 103 percent over last year, for a total of 19.4 million such devices in the U.S.

Mr. Lucas said the versions of the first three “Star Wars” films – “Star Wars,” “The Empire Strikes Back” and “Return of the Jedi” – included in the Blu-ray boxed set will be the special-edition releases that were shown theatrically in 1997 and digitally restored for a 2004 standard-definition DVD boxed set.

Perhaps bracing for the reactions of fans who decried some of the changes made to the special-edition films – like, say, an exchange of gunfire between Han Solo and a certain green-skinned bounty hunter – Mr. Lucas said that to release the original versions of these films on Blu-ray was “kind of an oxymoron because the quality of the original is not very good.”

“You have to go through and do a whole restoration on it, and you have to do that digitally,” he added. “It’s a very, very expensive process to do it. So when we did the transfer to digital, we only transferred really the upgraded version.”

And while some viewers might want the “Star Wars” Blu-ray release in time for this year’s Life Day – that is, the Wookiee holiday that roughly coincides with the start of the holiday shopping season – Mr. Lucas said a 2011 release was the earliest possible date. (The boxed set will be distributed by Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment; Lucasfilm did not give pricing information or indicate if the films will also be sold individually.)

That, he said, was partly due to continuing work on the additional Blu-ray features, and partly to factors beyond his control.

“We’ve been working on them for quite a while,” Mr. Lucas said, “but still, there are pipelines. Unfortunately, the recent releases get priority over what we call the classic versions of things.”
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Post by: Stefen on August 16, 2010, 01:28:56 AM
New Jedi deleted scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdJ0E7HbTKc&feature=player_embedded



This is hilarious if only for the crowd reaction to nothing.

EDIT: I SWEAR TO GOD
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Post by: polkablues on August 16, 2010, 01:57:39 AM
BAHAHAHA!
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Post by: MacGuffin on September 29, 2010, 01:09:15 AM
'Star Wars' saga gets 3D makeover
Converted 'Phantom Menace' to hit theaters in 2012
Source: Variety

After more than five years of teasing, Lucasfilm disclosed today that work is under way on converting the "Star Wars" saga to 3D.

All six pics will get theatrical re-release in stereoscopic starting with "Episode I: The Phantom Menace," which returns to theaters in 2012.

Exact release date has not been announced, but a Lucasfilm spokesperson said the pic will open wide and "as close to day and date (worldwide) as possible."

The prospect of six "Star Wars" pics released in 3D should stifle speculation that the format is a fading fad. It also promises to reintroduce the franchise to young auds who are used to 3D and only know 'Star Wars' from homevideo and the "Clone Wars" Cartoon Network skein.

20th Century Fox will once again distribute. Fox domestic distribution prexy Bruce Snyder called the series "perfectly suited" for 3D and said "I expect this to be as much fun for people that have not experienced 'Star Wars' as it was for people who were there in 1977 staring at the screen with mouth agape."

Spacing of the re-releases has not yet been determined, as that will depend on the pace of the conversion effort.

There are no plans yet for a homevideo release.

John Knoll, visual effects supervisor for Lucasfilm's Industrial Light & Magic, is overseeing the conversion, which is being done by outside vendors with close oversight by ILM.

Knoll said Lucasfilm is committed to ensuring that the 3D conversion delivers results as good as a movie shot and authored in 3D. Knoll said that it'll be used to make the experience more immersive and he'll avoid some of the more jarring, exaggerated uses of 3D that have marked previous stereoscopic pics.

"Having seen a lot of stereo material, I have very strong opinions about what I like and don't like about stereo," Knoll told Variety. "I'm going to be applying my aesthetic. It's not going to look like (conversions) we've seen in the past."

Knoll said there are no plans to add or fix visual effects on the movies. Over the years, Lucas's digital tweaks on the original trilogy pics have generated pushback from fans.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: polkablues on September 29, 2010, 01:25:48 AM
Keep on flogging, George.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Pubrick on September 29, 2010, 01:34:47 AM
Someone put him out of his misery already.

He's like a man burning alive, screaming out sounds that resemble words but they are really just cries of pain.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Fernando on September 29, 2010, 12:51:52 PM
I see him like this, a spoiled obnoxious kid:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/fbv/fromthecrayonsofglucasbzh9.jpg)

regarding sw, he only thinks about this:

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Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: cine on September 30, 2010, 02:32:45 AM
call me crazy, but if there was a plausible way for me to make billions of dollars off my movie franchise, i would do it.

but that's crazy me. maybe i'm in the minority.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Pubrick on September 30, 2010, 04:50:47 AM
he's already got billions.

i think everyone was fine with him up til the prequels, and no one could have begrudged him the billion dollars that came with them if it weren't for the fact that he could have at least NOT MADE THEM SHITTY.

the prequels were one of the most regrettable episodes in the history of cinema. like godfather part III times a million (billion). i think it's the main reason ppl think every decision he makes these days is derisible.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: polkablues on September 30, 2010, 05:27:22 AM
And it would be one thing if he understood that the prequels were shit.  Even if he gave the slightest hint of laughing it off, I could get past it.  But to this day, he maintains that the prequels were exactly what he was going for all along, and Empire is the worst movie of the series.  It's not about the billions of dollars to him; he still considers himself an auteur, and he considers the prequels his goddamn masterpiece.  You just can't reason with mental illness that pervasive.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 30, 2010, 05:40:04 AM
Isn't it childhood memory which convinces people that any of the Star Wars movies are any good? Entertainment wise, it's pretty easy to see how much better the early Indiana Jones series is to the Star Wars movies. The Star Wars prequels make the originals look better because they are so stiff, but if those films added a light tone with corny jokes and dropped half of the dialogue, for me, you would get the original movies. It's all bad.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Pubrick on September 30, 2010, 05:43:05 AM
nah, you just a hater.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 30, 2010, 05:47:40 AM
Compliment coming from you.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Gamblour. on September 30, 2010, 08:06:20 AM
Isn't it childhood memory which convinces people that any of the Star Wars movies are any good? Entertainment wise, it's pretty easy to see how much better the early Indiana Jones series is to the Star Wars movies. The Star Wars prequels make the originals look better because they are so stiff, but if those films added a light tone with corny jokes and dropped half of the dialogue, for me, you would get the original movies. It's all bad.

No way man. New Hope was on the other day, and I got completely sucked in. The characters are fucking iconic and charming, and you care about what they're trying to achieve. Star Wars is a great movie, in any context. And saying that the prequels films would be like the originals if you added a lighter tone, corny jokes, and lost some dialogue is like saying Thomas Kinkade would be Picasso if he just moved his brush a bit different. And corny jokes? Wtf are you talking about?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Alexandro on October 01, 2010, 07:37:33 PM
i don't know about childhood memory. maybe it convince people that those movies are better than they are. but no on in their right mind, even someone like me (I've never liked those movies one bit) can claim anything contrary to the simple fact than those three first movies are infinitely superior to the last three in every possible way. all 6 are popcorn entertainment, but the last three are really bad popcorn and the first three at least have a certain charm to them.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Stefen on October 01, 2010, 07:42:34 PM
I actually prefer the prequels haha.

The originals are kind of bad. They're so dated. The first one is charming in that low budget cool idea sort of way, but Empire is really dated and if you already know all the twists, it doesn't offer much but nostalgia. Jedi is terrible. Phantom Menace is pretty terrible, but I stood in line to see it when it came out. One of my fondest movie memories. Episode II is pretty cool for the fights and Episode III was fucking awesome. Seriously, when Ani and Obi-Wan are about to throw down and it's inter-cut with Yoda entering the Chancellors quarters I lost my shit.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Alexandro on October 01, 2010, 07:52:21 PM
well that fucks up my point.

Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Stefen on October 01, 2010, 08:03:57 PM
No, you were probably right. My taste is just awful. Gets me into trouble all the time.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: polkablues on October 01, 2010, 08:20:23 PM
The original Star Wars had a certain lo-fi magic to it.  It certainly feels like a product of its time, but it has so much charisma and so many iconic moments that it will always be watchable.  Plus, as a beat by beat demonstration of the Hero's Journey, humanity is evolutionarily hard-wired to respond to it.  Empire takes all the elements that made the first one fun and gives it to grown-ups to write and direct, which resulted in a more epic, more complex, more dramatically satisfying film.  Everything since then has been pure cancer.

Stefen, I hate to contradict you, but Episode 3 is the worst thing ever.  I'd rather my apartment shared a communal shower with a Turkish prison than have to sit through that godawful mess again.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: pete on October 01, 2010, 09:04:22 PM
I dunno if you can call those special effects bad or fake.  it didn't feel lo-fi to me, the space ships didn't feel like toys and the puppets put on a good show.  if anything, the new ones looked fake 'cause the leathery skin or fur still looked like cartoon.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: modage on May 04, 2011, 10:28:04 AM
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Post by: tpfkabi on May 04, 2011, 06:23:37 PM
I unsubscribed from the Star Wars e-mail list a while back and haven't heard from them in a long time, but they must have kept me somewhere as I got an e-mail about the Blu-Ray announcement.  :ponder:
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
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Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on September 01, 2011, 10:34:35 AM
George Lucas issues yet more changes for 'Star Wars' Blu-Ray – video

http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/george-lucas-issues-yet-more-changes-for-star-wars/235653
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: polkablues on September 01, 2011, 06:23:35 PM
George Lucas addressing Congress in 1988, regarding altering films:

"American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history.

People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society.

These current defacements are just the beginning. Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black-and-white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical tastes of the copyright holder. Tomorrow, more advanced technology will be able to replace actors with “fresher faces,” or alter dialogue and change the movement of the actor’s lips to match. It will soon be possible to create a new “original” negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control. In order to reconstruct old negatives, many archivists have had to go to Eastern bloc countries where American films have been better preserved.

In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.
There is nothing to stop American films, records, books, and paintings from being sold to a foreign entity or egotistical gangsters and having them change our cultural heritage to suit their personal taste.
I accuse the companies and groups, who say that American law is sufficient, of misleading the Congress and the People for their own economic self-interest.
I accuse the corporations, who oppose the moral rights of the artist, of being dishonest and insensitive to American cultural heritage and of being interested only in their quarterly bottom line, and not in the long-term interest of the Nation.

The public’s interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests. And the proof of that is that even a copyright law only permits the creators and their estate a limited amount of time to enjoy the economic fruits of that work.

There are those who say American law is sufficient. That’s an outrage! It’s not sufficient! If it were sufficient, why would I be here? Why would John Huston have been so studiously ignored when he protested the colorization of “The Maltese Falcon?” Why are films cut up and butchered?

I hope you have the courage to lead America in acknowledging the importance of American art to the human race, and accord the proper protection for the creators of that art–as it is accorded them in much of the rest of the world communities.”
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: picolas on September 03, 2011, 04:31:13 PM
UGHH. this is the only explanation i'm comfortable with: http://youtu.be/_BMgegut3UM
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on September 13, 2011, 03:38:22 PM
Blu-ray review

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Blu-ray/14903/#Review
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: pete on September 14, 2011, 03:28:16 AM
he's got a hot lady

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Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Stefen on September 14, 2011, 04:15:28 AM
Gold digger for sure. He can tell, too. LOOK AT HIS FACE!
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on September 14, 2011, 07:21:54 AM
Didn't know he dated Spike Lee.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Sleepless on September 14, 2011, 10:07:24 AM
All because he retained merchandise rights. Clever fuck.

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Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on September 14, 2011, 09:33:28 PM
UGHH. this is the only explanation i'm comfortable with: http://youtu.be/_BMgegut3UM

 :yabbse-grin:

All I really want to see are some of these 'new' Deleted Scenes. Hopefully they will make their way to YouTube quickly.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: theyarelegion on September 17, 2011, 02:20:24 PM
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Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: mogwai on September 18, 2011, 02:04:12 AM
UGHH. this is the only explanation i'm comfortable with: http://youtu.be/_BMgegut3UM

 :yabbse-grin:

All I really want to see are some of these 'new' Deleted Scenes. Hopefully they will make their way to YouTube quickly.

And here they are:

http://www.youtube.com/user/BetterThanHollywood9#g/u
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: pete on September 18, 2011, 06:27:05 AM
"The only thing that George Lucas has done that I like is going back to ruin the childhoods of Star Wars fans."
-@ianwearspants (http://twitter.com/#!/IanWearsPants)
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on September 18, 2011, 11:58:32 PM
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UGHH. this is the only explanation i'm comfortable with: http://youtu.be/_BMgegut3UM

 :yabbse-grin:

All I really want to see are some of these 'new' Deleted Scenes. Hopefully they will make their way to YouTube quickly.

And here they are:

http://www.youtube.com/user/BetterThanHollywood9#g/u
Thanks! I am also hoping there is an extra devoted to Carrie Fisher trying on the iron bikini.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: pete on October 14, 2011, 07:03:30 PM
I hope these haven't been shared already:

Star Wars as retold by a girl who'd never seen it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDFlQINIgwk

Star Wars retold by a Japanese girl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eCSHJINqCo
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: Fernando on October 16, 2011, 12:26:53 PM
just when I thought all SW jokes and parodies were done way too many times by now, those two prove me wrong

thanks pete, they're hysterical.
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Post by: MacGuffin on January 28, 2013, 04:05:48 PM
EXCLUSIVE: No More ‘Star Wars’ 3D Prequel Releases; Lucasfilm Passes To Focus On New Trilogy
BY NIKKI FINKE, Deadline

EXCLUSIVE: I learned of this decision just now from Lucasfilm‘s promotional partners who are telling me the studio now owned by Disney wants to focus only on “rebooting the franchise” with three new Star Wars films.

This surprising decision follows the underwhelming box office performance of Episode I: The Phantom Menace re-released in 3D in February 2012. It debuted to only $23M domestically but maybe even more importantly hardcore fans felt it was yet another craven cash grab by George Lucas.

Back in September 2010, Lucasfilm and then-distributor Fox announced that all 6 films in the Star Wars franchise would be converted to 3D. Episode II: Attack Of The Clones (first released on May 16, 2002) was to hit theaters in 3D on September 20th, 2013, while Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith (first released on May 19, 2005) was to play in 3D on October 11, 2013.

This news comes just days after Disney confirmed that J.J. Abrams will direct the new Star Wars: Episode VII scheduled to be released in 2015. It’s the first new Star Wars movie since 2005. Michael Arndt is writing the script. Disney bought Lucasfilm in October 2012 for $4 billion, with the Star Wars franchise obviously the jewel in the crown. At the time, Disney CEO Bob Iger said three more Star Wars films were in the pipeline.
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: max from fearless on August 28, 2014, 03:22:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHfLX_TMduY

Big up to Harmy! I've watched The Empire Strikes Back Despecialized v.1 and it's beautiful. Will be getting the Despecialized remastered versions and going in on these again! Great fan work. And Fuck George Lucas for not allowing Blu-rays of the original, original trilogy.

More info here:

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/08/the-star-wars-george-lucas-doesnt-want-you-to-see/379184/?single_page=true#comments (http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/08/the-star-wars-george-lucas-doesnt-want-you-to-see/379184/?single_page=true#comments)
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: tpfkabi on August 29, 2014, 11:04:31 AM
Weren't the non anamorphic versions on the 2 disc DVDs the original versions, or had those already been changed?
Title: Re: Original Star Wars Trilogy to be released on DVD
Post by: max from fearless on August 29, 2014, 11:15:54 AM
Yes, they were the originals and they were taken from the same masters as the laser disc versions of the original films BUT look at the difference between anamorphic and non-anamorphic transfers.

http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/archive/index.php?categoryid=22&p2_articleid=462 (http://www.starwarz.com/tbone/archive/index.php?categoryid=22&p2_articleid=462)

Basically, if it ain't an anamorphic transfer it pretty much sucks...and if MOST studio are doing anamorphic transfers, why would Lucas not bother, especially on the first 2 movies, which use composition and framing to great effect?