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Post by: Ghostboy on July 16, 2005, 11:37:22 PM
Started the new Harry Potter today, and am about 200 pages in - I'll probably have it finished in a day or two. There's a dropped bombshell of sorts within the first thirty pages. Good stuff.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on July 17, 2005, 05:05:21 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy
Started the new Harry Potter today, and am about 200 pages in - I'll probably have it finished in a day or two. There's a dropped bombshell of sorts within the first thirty pages. Good stuff.


p. 534 for me.  120 pages to go.  Solid writing all the way through as usual.  There's a bunch of "holy shit" moments, but (and this isn't necessarily bad) it feels like it's merely setup for the non-stop insanity that book 7 is destined to be.

<-- hey, look!  Professor Lupin.  ;)
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Post by: Ultrahip on July 17, 2005, 05:38:21 PM
Just finished it, and have (I modestly presume) figured out who R.A.B is: Sirius's brother.
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Post by: Reinhold on July 17, 2005, 10:45:21 PM
stole my prediction from me.

finished it about 20 minutes ago.

i expect a lot of piiiiisssssed off parents. this one isn't oriented to kids at all.
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Post by: cron on July 17, 2005, 11:02:42 PM
i heard ratzinger hates harry
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Post by: deathnotronic on July 18, 2005, 01:02:58 AM
I think that this is the best book to date. It's obvious that Rowling has strengthened her writing.

Do you think that book 7 will be the last? I know JKR said it would be, but there are so many things that have been left in question that I don't want to think it'll take one book to tie up.


SPOILER:




Are you to assume that Hogwarts won't be open in book seven?
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Post by: Ghostboy on July 18, 2005, 05:31:07 AM
Just finished it. Man, that was intense. Each of the past three books has been increasingly grim, increasingly thrilling...it's remarkable (and exhausting) how well she keeps raising the stakes.

The scene with the Inferi was pretty terrifying. That's gonna give kids nightmares...not to mention the eventual cinematic translation.

I do think she'll wrap it up with one more, but it might be closer to 900 pages or so...

SPOILER

And whether or not Hogwarts opens next year, I'm sure the characters will return to it, and the final showdown will probably be there as well.
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Post by: Pubrick on July 18, 2005, 06:01:51 AM
haha, i can't believe how fast everyone reads these things. it's a shame it has to end. reading won't be cool anymore.
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Post by: Myxo on July 18, 2005, 07:15:29 AM
I read the first Harry Potter but I'm too lazy to read these days. I think the last book I spent hours at a time reading was Stephen King's unedited version of The Stand. I spent my summer vacation working through it.
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Post by: NEON MERCURY on July 18, 2005, 09:57:01 AM
is this on many of you guys high school summer reading lists?
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on July 18, 2005, 10:32:34 AM
Quote from: Ultrahip Lobster Supper
Just finished it, and have (I modestly presume) figured out who R.A.B is: Sirius's brother.


Wish I didn't read that. You're totally right.



POSSIBLE BOOK 7 SPOILER



Guaranteed, the next book opens with Privet Drive exploding on Harry's birthday, when his aunt's protection wears off.  

That book is gonna have to be 1000+ pages easily.  The countdown to summer 2007 begins.
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Post by: Pas on July 18, 2005, 10:40:22 AM
Who is the marketing teacher in Hogwarts ? He's fucking strong.
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Post by: RegularKarate on July 21, 2005, 12:39:03 PM
I had some shit come up over the weekend so I just finished this last night.

I agree about Sirius' brother... I think it's obvious that's what the B stands for...

So my theory is that Dumbledore isn't dead... Severus isn't a death eater and the whole thing is a cover.  Maybe I'm stating the obvious though.

I think this book was a step down from Order (which was a mild step down from Goblet), but it was still great.  I think Goblet is the best because of it's Empire Strikes Back qualities.  So dark... great ending.

This book isn't intended for kids.. it's intended for young teenagers.  She's writen these so that the readers should get older as the characters do.

American's are gonna bug about the underage drinking.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on July 21, 2005, 01:43:12 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
So my theory is that Dumbledore isn't dead... Severus isn't a death eater and the whole thing is a cover.  Maybe I'm stating the obvious though.


Dumbledore's dead as hell (from a certain point of view  :yabbse-wink:  ).  I'm sure that he'll be around in a painting in McGonagall's new office, along with the other former headmasters.  With all the damn ghosts and talking paintings and shit that float around Hogwarts, the only thing Dumbledore won't be able to do now that he could before is give Harry a hug.

Quote from: RegularKarate
I think Goblet is the best because of it's Empire Strikes Back qualities.


You wanna go get a beer sometime?  Though I'd place HBP just above Order of the Phoenix.

Quote from: RegularKarate
American's are gonna bug about the underage drinking.


I thought they'd bug more about the subtle Bush/Iraq war-bashing, considering the flicker of controversy that surrounded Revenge of the Sith.
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Post by: RegularKarate on July 21, 2005, 05:11:01 PM
Quote from: hacksparrow

Dumbledore's dead as hell (from a certain point of view).  I'm sure that he'll be around in a painting in McGonagall's new office, along with the other former headmasters.  With all the damn ghosts and talking paintings and shit that float around Hogwarts, the only thing Dumbledore won't be able to do now that he could before is give Harry a hug.


I'm with you... and he should be dead... we all knew it was going to happen, but:

A: Dumbledore had JUST told Malfoy they could manage to make it look like he was dead to the Death-eaters and Voldemordt.

B: Dumbledore trusted Snape and I don't see Rowling's lesson being "you can't trust people".

C: I don't quite remember what my "C" was, but I had another reason.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on July 22, 2005, 10:44:23 AM
Concerning A: Good point.  I hadn't thought of that.

Concerning B: That's also true but I have a feeling that if Snape really did the Avada Kedavra on Dumbledore, then whatever remnant of him will have to explain to Harry in book 7 that Dumbledore told Snape that if he had to kill him in order to protect his cover, then he had to do it.  For the greater good and all that.

And was C something to do with the bit in Order of the Phoenix where (I think it was) Bellatrix Lestrange told Harry that you have to REALLY mean harm to the person if you're going to use an illegal curse on them when his Cruciatus curse attempt on her failed?  If Snape's loyalties lie with Dumbledore and the Order, then he couldn't have meant to kill him and therefore he's not really dead.




I don't think I've made more nerdy statements, in this thread and in everyday life, than I have this week, and that includes the week that Revenge of the Sith came out.




And then there's this. (http://books.guardian.co.uk/harrypotter/story/0,10761,1529491,00.html)
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on July 27, 2005, 03:57:08 PM
Out of respect, make sure that no one who hasn't read the book is within eye or earshot of your computer.
 
http://pottercrash.ytmnd.com
 
http://hankspotter.ytmnd.com
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Post by: RegularKarate on July 27, 2005, 06:08:57 PM
So, if anyone's still living in geektown with me, I have more theories.

Horcruxes:

1.  Almost all of them are inside Sirius' (now Harry's) house.  In Order, they actually find a lockette that they can't open and one of the items being stolen from the house in Halfblood Prince is a silver cup.

2.  Harry is the last Horcrux.
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Post by: Ravi on August 09, 2005, 03:27:53 PM
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=w050801&s=zimmerman080405



Harry Situation
by Sacha Zimmerman
Only at TNR Online
Post date: 08.04.05

Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
By J.K. Rowling
(Arthur A. Levine Books, 672 pp., $29.99)
Click here to buy this book

As a child, I read the Terry Brooks fantasy novels faster than you can say "Sword of Shannara." I also read The Hobbit, was obsessed with King Arthur's court (I named my two male kittens Sir Gwayne and Lady Gwenivere), dabbled in Dungeons and Dragons, and built the Lego castle (and brought it to school for show-and-tell). I even once sat rapt in front of the movie Mazes and Monsters with the firm belief that role-playing magic games were all the rage at college. I would have loved Harry Potter as a kid.

But life moved on. I went through a note-passing, giggly junior high phase decked head to toe in Espirit; a keg-parties and old-school-rap phase; an obsessed-with-Jim-Morrison's-poetry phase; a Brit-punk Sid Vicious anger phase; an Edible Woman radical vegetarian feminist phase; and a deep Eugene Ionesco phase that I still don't fully understand. Then one uneventful night, while volunteering abroad after college (my save-the-world phase), I was invited to a D&D game. Thinking it might be fun to bask in the fantasy years of my youth, I heartily accepted--only to find myself gaping in horror as grown adults "cast spells" and "explored secret caves" looking for "magic stones." "I think I'm just gonna go hang out with the cool kids in the pub instead," I murmured and slunk out.

It was around this time that I also picked up The Hobbit again. I started zoning out during a particularly detailed passage about Shire life that blended a little too well with my understanding of Smurf life--sexless midgets living in bliss but for fear of tall men in castles. I tried to read Brooks once more, too, but flung the book out of a bus window after realizing that Allanon is a druid and not a twelve-step program. So when Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone burst onto the scene--during my Mary-Tyler-Moore-career-gal phase--I was a tad skeptical. But I loved it. Sure, it was a children's book, but I was less cynical by that point and more willing to romanticize my childhood fascination with castles and witchcraft. I loved the second Harry Potter book, too. I thought the third was just OK. It wasn't that it was worse than the first two--indeed, many would argue that it's better--but by that point I understood Harry Potter well enough to know what to expect.

The Harry Potter series is so formulaic that any hint of suspense had already been eradicated by book three. And so by the sixth novel, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, I am ready to just yadda-yadda my way through the obligatory tease-the-muggles chapter. Every Potter book finds Harry living on Privet Drive just long enough to freak out the Dursleys before heading back to Hogwarts. After a trip to Diagon Alley, then it's off to Platform 9-3/4 with the Weasley clan before the typically illuminating and mischievous journey to school. Of course, then there's the new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher to contend with, a plot to unravel with the aid of some new possession (a book, a map, an invisibility cloak, a mirror), verbal duels with Draco Malfoy, paranoia about Severus Snape, comic relief with the ghosts and paintings, life-and-death Quidditch matches, new spells that sound like first-year Latin and yet are mysteriously difficult to learn (Studium Magicum in Totem!), a final challenge that often involves three obstacles (Hermione and Ron get to help more that way), and of course the continued hegemony of Gryffindor to maintain.

All of which is perfectly thrilling--for an eight-year-old. But J.K. Rowling is not C.S. Lewis nor Madeline L'Engle, and her novels do not carry into adulthood--unless your idea of excitement is meeting Hagrid's beast du jour. Maybe that's an unfair criticism, since these are children's books after all, right? But those weren't just children at the Harry Potter release parties last month, and I'm pretty sure eight-year-olds aren't reading The New York Times Book Review (much less the op-ed page) for analysis of the latest roman à Hogwarts.

As long as adults are taking whimsy seriously, it's fair to take Rowling the writer seriously. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince is teeming with overt social commentary that uses the state of the wizard world as a metaphor for the state of our world. The terrorized wizarding community buys inane safety gadgets, like Decoy Detonators, to bolster their sense of security. The Ministry of Magic buys 500 Shield Hats from a joke shop. Innocent people are arrested in order for the Ministry to appear as though it is doing something meaningful. It feels familiar, yet the decentralized threat from fundamentalist ideology facing the real world doesn't translate to Harry Potter at all. The good wizards and witches of Rowling's series still call evil by one name: Voldemort. The Dark Lord is a fixed, specific threat that ultimately Harry must vanquish. We muggles, however, face a threat that will take generations to repair.

But maybe that's exactly why even adults love Rowling's tedious predictability. Rowling's world, like George W. Bush's world, is one of good versus evil. The threat is identifiable: It can be attacked, and it can be stopped. And so, as you may have heard, this latest Harry Potter novel is "dark," just like our post-9/11 world. But, unlike our world, there is a savior. After all, Harry has a power "that Voldemort has never had"; Harry "can love!" Now Harry is ready for a one-on-one battle with Voldemort, love versus hate. Yawn. I bet that battle begins with Harry leaving the Dursleys (for the last time!) and heading to Hogwarts. I bet he learns some new tricks. I bet he unravels a plot. And I bet Harry wins. (Maleficus Exodus!)

Sacha Zimmerman , former assistant managing editor at TNR, is an associate editor at Reader's Digest.
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Post by: Brazoliange on August 09, 2005, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
So, if anyone's still living in geektown with me, I have more theories.

Horcruxes:

1.  Almost all of them are inside Sirius' (now Harry's) house.  In Order, they actually find a lockette that they can't open and one of the items being stolen from the house in Halfblood Prince is a silver cup.

2.  Harry is the last Horcrux.


#2 is brilliant, and probably right.
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Post by: Tictacbk on August 09, 2005, 06:13:13 PM
If Harry was  a horcrux, wouldn't that mean part of voldemort's soul is in Harry, thereby making him possessed by voldemort?
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Post by: Reinhold on August 09, 2005, 10:24:10 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
So, if anyone's still living in geektown with me, I have more theories.

Horcruxes:

1.  Almost all of them are inside Sirius' (now Harry's) house.  In Order, they actually find a lockette that they can't open and one of the items being stolen from the house in Halfblood Prince is a silver cup.

2.  Harry is the last Horcrux.


niiiiiiiice!

harry can't be the last horcrux, though. because the horcrux magic would have to have taken place after he killed harry.
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Post by: deathnotronic on August 10, 2005, 01:41:29 AM
No, before.

The horcrux bullshit had been building up since Voldemort left Hogwarts.

It's highly unlikely as Harry's dreams that described his attempted murder described avada kedavra pretty well, unless it happened before.

 I think that the last Horcrux may be someone close to Harry, but not Harry himself. Ginny, anyone?
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Post by: Tictacbk on August 10, 2005, 07:23:55 AM
How can a horcrux be a person?
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on August 10, 2005, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Tictacbk
How can a horcrux be a person?


There wasn't anything that said it couldn't be, as far as I can remember.

Quote from: deathnotronic
I think that the last Horcrux may be someone close to Harry, but not Harry himself. Ginny, anyone?


That would be terrible.  He makes himself a new horcrux while he's barely alive and still trying to regain strength?  That doesn't make sense.

And after thinking about it, it would be an interesting twist if Harry was the last horcrux.  But Rowling's gonna have to think really hard to explain it.  It's possible that he is a horcrux but that would really change the story of how his parents died.  

Maybe Voldemort's intent wasn't to kill Harry but to make him a horcrux, he killed James to split his soul, killed Lily who was protecting Harry, made Harry a horcrux, but Voldemort split his soul one too many times and it almost killed him?  

I don't know that I'd like this to be the case but it's an answer.

And I still think that there's something up with Neville.
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Post by: Pubrick on August 10, 2005, 09:15:22 AM
dude, harry is the evil one. he has to jump into lava to save everyone.
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Post by: Reinhold on August 10, 2005, 12:36:12 PM
what're your thoughts on the new minister of magic?
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Post by: RegularKarate on August 10, 2005, 12:40:49 PM
Quote from: hacksparrow

And I still think that there's something up with Neville.


Definitely.

How effed up would it be if the prophecy WAS referring to him instead of Harry and he's like got a scar on his ass or something?

Does anyone else get the feeling that Snape was in love with Lilly?
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Post by: Brazoliange on August 10, 2005, 12:49:02 PM
Quote from: Reinhold Messner
what're your thoughts on the new minister of magic?


I think he's an ass and he'll probably be the Umbridge (standing in Harry's way of finding the Horcruxes) in the last book
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Post by: Reinhold on August 10, 2005, 01:57:36 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Quote from: hacksparrow

And I still think that there's something up with Neville.


Definitely.

How effed up would it be if the prophecy WAS referring to him instead of Harry and he's like got a scar on his ass or something?

Does anyone else get the feeling that Snape was in love with Lilly?


maybe it's the emotional scarring from his parents torture or something.
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Post by: Tictacbk on August 10, 2005, 04:07:26 PM
Quote from: hacksparrow
Quote from: Tictacbk
How can a horcrux be a person?


There wasn't anything that said it couldn't be, as far as I can remember.




But if a horcrux is a piece of someones soul, then if that piece of soul resides within Harry he would currently possessed by voldemort.  much like the piece of soul that was in the diary that possessed Ginny in the 2nd book.


Also i do think snape loved Lily and thats why dumbledore trusted him so much...whats the consensus on whether or not snape is really evil?  I think he is and if he wasn't Rowling would've summed it up  in this book instead of letting you wonder.  Also the only way to show that snape isn't evil is to have Harry trust him at some point...which he has never done.  I only foresee that happening if Snape is saving Harry's life...which would be interesting.





God i can't belive i've posted more in this forum than any reasonable ones..
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Post by: deathnotronic on August 10, 2005, 05:21:45 PM
I mean... Snape did kill Dumbledore.
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Post by: Reinhold on August 11, 2005, 12:58:17 AM
who do you think is going to die in the next book?
do you think that harry will have to use any unforgivables?

do we know how sirius' brother died?
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on August 11, 2005, 11:31:47 AM
Quote from: Tictacbk
Quote from: hacksparrow
Quote from: Tictacbk
How can a horcrux be a person?


There wasn't anything that said it couldn't be, as far as I can remember.


But if a horcrux is a piece of someones soul, then if that piece of soul resides within Harry he would currently possessed by voldemort.  much like the piece of soul that was in the diary that possessed Ginny in the 2nd book.


But you're forgetting Harry's family protection, the reason he has to go back to his Aunt and Uncle's house every summer.  That could be the difference.  Maybe he's the perfect horcrux for that reason.  That would also explain the parseltongue.  I don't know that I completely buy into the "Horcrux Harry" theory 100% but I think it's very possible.


Quote from: Tictacbk
Also i do think snape loved Lily and thats why dumbledore trusted him so much...whats the consensus on whether or not snape is really evil?  I think he is and if he wasn't Rowling would've summed it up  in this book instead of letting you wonder.  Also the only way to show that snape isn't evil is to have Harry trust him at some point...which he has never done.  I only foresee that happening if Snape is saving Harry's life...which would be interesting.


Again, I say that Snape has to be ultimately good for Rowling to have made us give a shit about him at all.  He may be an asshole to Harry but he's never been painted in the same pure evil way that the Malfoys or any of the Death Eaters are.  But he'd be irredeemable if he killed Dumbledore in cold blood without there being an understanding between the two and, as RegularKarate said:

Quote from: RegularKarate
Dumbledore trusted Snape and I don't see Rowling's lesson being "you can't trust people"


The real test of Snape's loyalty will come if and when he has to choose between saving Harry or Draco.  Does he sacrifice himself for Harry and the greater good or does he fulfill his unbreakable vow and save Draco (and himself)?

As for Snape being in love with Lily... it's probably the case but something doesn't sound right to me about that.  Can't put my finger on it.  Maybe that it hasn't been established already (has it?).



Quote from: Tictacbk
God i can't belive i've posted more in this forum than any reasonable ones..


Me neither.
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Post by: Reinhold on August 11, 2005, 11:58:31 AM
the unbreakable vow is already taken care of, i thought. didn't he fulfill his obligation to narcissa when he killed dumbledore? that was the end of draco's mission.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on June 28, 2007, 10:30:26 AM
So... is anyone else re-reading the first 6 in preparation for the 7th?
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Post by: Pubrick on June 28, 2007, 10:54:27 AM
hedwig is trying and failing.

i don't know if i should just read the ending of the last book without reading anything else. just to tell my kids i did it, that i alienated myself from yet another defining moment of my era. like some dude who spent the 60s playing solitaire and reupholstering his furniture.
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Post by: picolas on June 28, 2007, 08:56:40 PM
i did that for the fifth or sixth when i was in the airport one day. (now only you can live out the dream of ONLY 7)
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Post by: Tictacbk on June 30, 2007, 01:27:26 PM
I just picked up 6 again to reread and get excited for 7.  New HP=me posting on xixax again for a couple weeks of geekdom, woohoo!

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Post by: grand theft sparrow on July 17, 2007, 05:47:07 PM
Just heard that the epilogue to the new book has leaked.

So I'll see you guys next week as I won't be going on the internet until I'm done reading the book.
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Post by: Stefen on July 17, 2007, 06:09:37 PM
EDIT: Spoilers! Apologies to anyone who already read this! I AM SO SORRY!!




Why waste the whole half of the book with Ron in a coma only to kill him off in the middle? Why not have him die suddenly protecting his friends?

Pisses me off.
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Post by: Raikus on July 18, 2007, 10:24:21 AM
I download it from bit torrent yesterday. So far pretty good. Hard to read some pages do to angles but I'm already pretty sad about what's happened.
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Post by: Bethie on July 21, 2007, 02:36:15 AM
My friend and I stopped by a Barnes and Noble tonight just to make fun. She couldn't believe how many cars were there. I told her I felt like going through the store and yelling the spoilers for the new book. We did a walk through of the store and snickered the whole time. When we left she said to me, "I don't understand why they didn't release the book and the movie on the same day? why would they release the movie before the book?" I said, "the movie that just came out was for a previous book.." Her response, "...really? ohh..I had no idea!"
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Post by: Reinhold on July 21, 2007, 10:19:35 AM
some copies came into work a couple days ago. i finished the book the night i got it. i think this'll make the best movie.
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Post by: Pubrick on July 21, 2007, 11:16:36 PM
during a lull at a party last nite i went on wikipedia and read the ending.

i made it their homepage.

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y154/pubrick/emoticons/flame.gif)
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Post by: Stefen on July 22, 2007, 12:19:42 AM
You still go to parties?

I haven't really been to one since I turned 21 (yesterday was my b-day btw)
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Post by: Pubrick on July 22, 2007, 04:13:18 AM
sucks to be you.
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Post by: Stefen on July 22, 2007, 10:23:27 AM
Tell me about it.

I can't tell you how bad I want to meet a 15 year old.
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Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on July 22, 2007, 12:38:55 PM
Parties exist outside of the Highschool mark, I hope you knew that.
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Post by: Stefen on July 22, 2007, 01:07:59 PM
No. No, I didn't.

Do you mean like key parties like in The Ice Storm?
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on July 22, 2007, 10:23:51 PM
Can we move this to the "Stefen and Pubrick (don't) go to parties (split from new Harry Potter book (spoilers) (split from reading thread) thread)" thread?

So anyway, this book.  Flawed but great.  I think the ending was a little too abrupt and was hoping for a couple of things to happen that didn't but overall, I'm satisfied.  I guess I'll get more into it once RK and a couple of other people finish. 

Or once Stefen shows up on To Catch a Predator.

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Post by: pumba on July 23, 2007, 04:33:26 PM
Just finished it too,

SPOILER:

I remember back in 2005 (at a party, coincidentally)  my friend explaining his theory about dumbledore asking snape to kill him and harry being a horcrux. It made total sense back then and I was like "fuck! that's so smart, that'll forsure happen!" but I was kind of hoping JK would completely surprise me, while reading, instead of following the same path my friend did. I still really enjoyed it, and i heard rumors of Joss Whedon begging to direct the movie...
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Post by: tpfkabi on July 23, 2007, 06:49:34 PM
SPOILERS:


what's with the Malfoys just giving up?
is this based mostly on the fact that V insulted him by taking his wand?

after reading Half, i thought maybe Malfoy would turn totally good, and he did sorta.

Snape was made so bad/good throughout the series, i knew he had to turn out good.
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Post by: pete on July 24, 2007, 01:45:03 AM
that's so interesting that you're all talking about the book, 'cause, I'm not making this up.  Last night, I fucked every character that was in the book.
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Post by: Pubrick on July 24, 2007, 07:58:05 AM
Last night, I fucked every character that was in the book.

to death?

(spoilers)

is that why all their kids are asian?
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on July 26, 2007, 08:25:53 AM
Way to spoil the epilogue, pete!   :yabbse-angry:



SPOILERS:


what's with the Malfoys just giving up?
is this based mostly on the fact that V insulted him by taking his wand?

after reading Half, i thought maybe Malfoy would turn totally good, and he did sorta.


That was part of what I meant by things not happening that I was hoping for.  There was so much douchebaggery committed by the Malfoy family that you want them to, at the very least, go broke at the end, after taunting the Weasleys through 6 previous books about their financial status.  Narcissa's betrayal of Voldemort wasn't really enough for me in that respect.  If the only way to find Draco would have been to kill Harry and everyone in Hogwarts, she would have tried to find a way to do it.  So letting them off the hook without some degree of punishment is this universe's equivalent of letting Nazi war criminals off the hook just because Hitler is dead.

Draco has always been a coward, so I was hoping for a moment when he would quit being a punkass and actively save Harry's life or quit being a punkass and think he's got the balls to be Voldemort.

Plus, the ending (before the epilogue) was too abrupt.  I was really hoping for a scene where Harry has to take his Defense Against the Dark Arts N.E.W.T. and he just sits there and laughs or writes, "My name is Harry Potter" for every answer.
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Post by: tpfkabi on July 26, 2007, 04:34:42 PM
Way to spoil the epilogue, pete!   :yabbse-angry:



SPOILERS:


what's with the Malfoys just giving up?
is this based mostly on the fact that V insulted him by taking his wand?

after reading Half, i thought maybe Malfoy would turn totally good, and he did sorta.


That was part of what I meant by things not happening that I was hoping for.  There was so much douchebaggery committed by the Malfoy family that you want them to, at the very least, go broke at the end, after taunting the Weasleys through 6 previous books about their financial status.  Narcissa's betrayal of Voldemort wasn't really enough for me in that respect.  If the only way to find Draco would have been to kill Harry and everyone in Hogwarts, she would have tried to find a way to do it.  So letting them off the hook without some degree of punishment is this universe's equivalent of letting Nazi war criminals off the hook just because Hitler is dead.

Draco has always been a coward, so I was hoping for a moment when he would quit being a punkass and actively save Harry's life or quit being a punkass and think he's got the balls to be Voldemort.

Plus, the ending (before the epilogue) was too abrupt.  I was really hoping for a scene where Harry has to take his Defense Against the Dark Arts N.E.W.T. and he just sits there and laughs or writes, "My name is Harry Potter" for every answer.

i'm fuzzy - what was her betrayal?
(i hadn't read Half Blood and the rest for over a year when i read the new one)

i really would have liked to have known what jobs they had.
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Post by: Tictacbk on July 26, 2007, 09:08:24 PM
SPOILERS



i'm fuzzy - what was her betrayal?
(i hadn't read Half Blood and the rest for over a year when i read the new one)

i really would have liked to have known what jobs they had.

I believe that would be when she checked to see if Harry was dead...knew he wasn't...and then said he was?

I just finished the book.  I haven't had enough time to fully comment on it yet but I will say I'm somewhat disappointed that Harry was a Horcrux after all my arguing that he couldn't be.
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Post by: tpfkabi on July 26, 2007, 10:15:38 PM
SPOILERS



i'm fuzzy - what was her betrayal?
(i hadn't read Half Blood and the rest for over a year when i read the new one)

i really would have liked to have known what jobs they had.

I believe that would be when she checked to see if Harry was dead...knew he wasn't...and then said he was?

I just finished the book.  I haven't had enough time to fully comment on it yet but I will say I'm somewhat disappointed that Harry was a Horcrux after all my arguing that he couldn't be.

ah, yes.
i'm not sure i understand the motivation behind that.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on July 27, 2007, 06:18:17 AM
The motivation was "I may be a fascist but I still love my son."  Which we already knew since she was so upset in book 6 that Voldemort was sending Draco on a mission it looked like he would die during and made Snape do the Unbreakable Vow or whatever.  I guess it all falls into Rowling's theme of "love conquers all" but I was hoping for a little more activity.

i really would have liked to have known what jobs they had.

I wondered that too.  Does Harry become an Auror like he wants to?  Is there even a need anymore?  Or does he end up as the David Beckham of Quidditch?
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Post by: tpfkabi on July 27, 2007, 07:30:19 PM
The motivation was "I may be a fascist but I still love my son."  Which we already knew since she was so upset in book 6 that Voldemort was sending Draco on a mission it looked like he would die during and made Snape do the Unbreakable Vow or whatever.  I guess it all falls into Rowling's theme of "love conquers all" but I was hoping for a little more activity.

i have already forgotten most of Half Blood other than the 'biggie.'
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Post by: Reinhold on July 27, 2007, 08:14:48 PM
i saw in the opening sequence of Countdown with Keith Olbermann that J.K. Rowling gave an interview talking about their jobs and stuff, but i fell asleep before it aired. the information you want is likely out there on youtube or something.

edit: link. (http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070726/ENTERTAIN/70726007/-1/ENTERTAIN06)
Title: Re: new Harry Potter book (spoilers) (split from reading thread)
Post by: Poobread on July 29, 2007, 12:31:13 AM
She said some rubbish about leaving the Epilogue "nebulous" as to not give away all the information, but gladly disclosed the secrets once we all read it.

Harry and Ron - Aurors, despite not formally completing any sort of schooling. Does that sound strange to anyone else?
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Post by: Reinhold on July 29, 2007, 12:35:20 AM
She said some rubbish about leaving the Epilogue "nebulous" as to not give away all the information, but gladly disclosed the secrets once we all read it.

Harry and Ron - Aurors, despite not formally completing any sort of schooling. Does that sound strange to anyone else?

no, not at all.

i think they're probably better-qualified aurors than most graduates of hogwarts, plus nobody said they didn't study more.

hermione probably didn't go straight to being a lawyer, either.
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Post by: MacGuffin on October 22, 2007, 01:39:25 PM
Dumbledore was gay, JK tells amazed fans
Source: The Observer
 
There could hardly have been a bigger sensation if Russell Crowe, Rod Stewart or Sven-Goran Eriksson had come out of the closet. Millions of fans around the world were yesterday digesting the news that one of the main characters in the Harry Potter novels, Albus Dumbledore, is gay.

The revelation came from author JK Rowling during a question-and-answer session at New York's Carnegie Hall. It instantly hurtled around the internet and the world. News websites in China and Germany announced starkly: 'JK Rowling: "Dumbledore is gay".' One blogger wrote on a fansite: 'My head is spinning. Wow. One more reason to love gay men.'

After reading briefly from her mega-selling book, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, on Friday night, Rowling took questions from an audience of 1,600 students. A 19-year-old from Colorado asked about the avuncular headmaster of Hogwarts School: 'Did Dumbledore, who believed in the prevailing power of love, ever fall in love himself?'

The author replied: 'My truthful answer to you...I always thought of Dumbledore as gay.' The audience reportedly fell silent - then erupted into prolonged applause.

Rowling, 42, continued: 'Dumbledore fell in love with Grindelwald [a bad wizard he defeated long ago], and that added to his horror when Grindelwald showed himself to be what he was. To an extent, do we say it excused Dumbledore a little more because falling in love can blind us to an extent, but he met someone as brilliant as he was and, rather like Bellatrix, he was very drawn to this brilliant person and horribly, terribly let down by him.'

She added: 'Yeah, that's how I always saw Dumbledore. In fact, recently I was in a script read-through for the sixth film, and they had Dumbledore saying a line to Harry early in the script saying, "I knew a girl once, whose hair..." I had to write a little note in the margin and slide it along to the scriptwriter, "Dumbledore's gay!"'

Amazed by the warm reaction of the audience, Rowling, on her first US tour in seven years, joked: 'Just imagine the fan fiction now.'
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on October 22, 2007, 02:39:39 PM
The Halloween parade in the Village this year is gonna be chock full o' Dumbledores, that's for sure. 
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Post by: 72teeth on August 27, 2008, 03:12:26 AM
I'm sorry if this has already been discused, and if it hasn't, then I'm sorry that i haven't already shared this with you family, but

THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u981JhkK46o)
is amazing...

WPDR is what you get when a deadbeat uncle drunkenly stumbles into your room while your sleeping and tries to make up 13 years of absence by telling you a “bedtime story” of a movie half remembered and infuses it with old prison stories... also, that uncle talks like the worlds oldest dork.

this should help out with the HP blues while we wait 11 more months...

enjoy.

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Post by: matt35mm on August 27, 2008, 03:55:23 AM
It's been posted before, but it's worth posting again!

Check out more of Brad Neely's stuff at www.superdeluxe.com.

I especially recommend Babycakes, "Diary #2" (http://www.superdeluxe.com/sd/contentDetail.do?id=D81F2344BF5AC7BB1434939FE41458B5935B9EB139C3603D).  The ending blows my mind.