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The Director's Chair => Paul Thomas Anderson => Topic started by: Marty McSuperfly on January 10, 2003, 03:22:58 AM

Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: Marty McSuperfly on January 10, 2003, 03:22:58 AM
I'm interested in finding out what the guy is like when folk meet him in real life. Is he quiet? Friendly? Moody? Funny? etc I'm sure we'd all like to know what the guy is really like when he comes face to face with fans.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: xerxes on January 10, 2003, 03:37:07 PM
i met him at a radiohead concert a year or so back... we talked a while... he seemed very nice
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: dude on January 10, 2003, 03:51:09 PM
the old board was full of people who have met him.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: RegularKarate on January 10, 2003, 04:42:19 PM
Quote from: dude
the old board was full of people who have met him.


and how do YOU know?

What should I call you dude?

It wouldn't be "duderick" would it?
Or "Film Dudent"?
I'm assuming you aren't "Dudicus Jones"

By the way... what did you do to PT's forehead?  He looks like a Klingon
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: dude on January 10, 2003, 05:09:40 PM
hahahahaha!  yes, i gave him a klingon look!  his name is KROTCH!  SON OF NABE!  and his woman, FIONA!
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: neatahwanta on January 10, 2003, 08:51:18 PM
http://www.atforumz.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=2381239#post2381239

(I didn't write it)  :lol:
Title: hello
Post by: bluejaytwist on January 14, 2003, 01:54:33 AM
i have met the man. nice guy.

.::side note::.
too bad about everything tho.
seems to me it all got a bit much back in the old house.
new homes never feel quite right till you paint the walls.
move in the furniture.
make the bed.
etc.

i guess i'll stay.
the neighbors seem friendly.
Title: Re: hello
Post by: Newtron on January 14, 2003, 07:34:25 AM
Quote from: bluejaytwist
i have met the man. nice guy.

.::side note::.
too bad about everything tho.
seems to me it all got a bit much back in the old house.
new homes never feel quite right till you paint the walls.
move in the furniture.
make the bed.
etc.

i guess i'll stay.
the neighbors seem friendly.


Are you going to close this one down too? It was timely that the prior house burned after you were seen lighting matches.

.::side note::.
You will notice that I am on your side.

Oh and have you checked this (http://ptanderson.planet1337.com/index.php) out yet? It's pretty cool.
Title: Re: hello
Post by: Pwaybloe on January 14, 2003, 09:03:58 AM
Quote from: Newtron
Oh and have you checked this (http://ptanderson.planet1337.com/index.php) out yet? It's pretty cool.


That's a nice, little tribute page, Sphinx.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: sphinx on January 14, 2003, 09:20:30 AM
sadly, peace out has been comprimised by our fellow newtron.  bluejay: you lack the rhyme and the reason to speak that way.  what's your dig
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: bluejaytwist on January 14, 2003, 10:12:19 AM
you can't have a dig, if you don't own a shovel.
im sure i could find one somewhere.
perhaps i could borrow agheys.
Title: Re: hello
Post by: bluejaytwist on January 14, 2003, 10:15:33 AM
Quote from: Newtron
Quote from: bluejaytwist
i have met the man. nice guy.

.::side note::.
too bad about everything tho.
seems to me it all got a bit much back in the old house.
new homes never feel quite right till you paint the walls.
move in the furniture.
make the bed.
etc.

i guess i'll stay.
the neighbors seem friendly.


Are you going to close this one down too? It was timely that the prior house burned after you were seen lighting matches.

.::side note::.
You will notice that I am on your side.

Oh and have you checked this (http://ptanderson.planet1337.com/index.php) out yet? It's pretty cool.


page not found.

much like the smoldering ashes of such things past. i dont play with matches, son. i found i dont much care for the smell.

i wondered why my ribs were so sore, but it all makes sense. you're on my side.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: RegularKarate on January 14, 2003, 12:34:36 PM
That's just what this board needs, more confusion.

At least he's not claiming to be AJ.

Welcome aboard, whoever you are.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: BackUpOffMeFoo on January 14, 2003, 12:59:11 PM
I new the man. I even considered him a dear friend. I was his caddy for a while. Until I accidently pulled out his rusty nine iron.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: neatahwanta on January 14, 2003, 01:31:58 PM
"...just like water on the ground
we will find our way..."
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: RegularKarate on January 14, 2003, 03:26:58 PM
"Carry on, my wayword son"
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: xerxes on January 14, 2003, 03:41:19 PM
there won't be peace when i'm done... not if i can help it anyway.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: BackUpOffMeFoo on January 14, 2003, 03:45:11 PM
Has anyone here seen my dawg? I lost him around a place just like this.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: BackUpOffMeFoo on January 14, 2003, 04:12:27 PM
Good thing I still got all my old cats.

Life is good
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: RegularKarate on January 14, 2003, 04:43:26 PM
I see there's a new sheriff in town.

Or is it an old sheriff with new badge?
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: Newtron on January 15, 2003, 02:43:58 AM
Quote from: sphinx
sadly, peace out has been comprimised by our fellow newtron.  bluejay: you lack the rhyme and the reason to speak that way.  what's your dig


You took it off? I wanted Newjay to at least see Pube's last post.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: Travis Bickle on January 15, 2003, 12:21:45 PM
guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuys
STOP
let's just let a special thing
R.I.P.

y's hesoh bit her
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: bluejaytwist on January 15, 2003, 07:40:40 PM
the poobz will rep strong.
another admin id bet.
a strong crew nevertheless.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: sphinx on January 15, 2003, 08:43:09 PM
stew, your mail be shared with no one.

i deem this appropriate compensation for lost time and lost loves
lovers of lost loves love lovers
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: Satcho9 on January 16, 2003, 12:23:20 AM
So....any actual stories about meeting PTA or just more nonesensical Bullshazz...?
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: xerxes on January 16, 2003, 12:31:18 AM
i had an actual story
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: Tommy Both on January 16, 2003, 03:43:10 AM
:twisted: oh yeah, PTA will be a guest at the Film Festival Rotterdam here in the Netherlands  :P I hope he'll go to the screening of his own movie, 'cause then I'll probally see him!! woo-hoo , that'll be rockin and rollin'

I'll ask him to sign my pdl shootingscript :D
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: jtm on January 20, 2003, 11:06:42 PM
I thought i saw him once on melrose but it turns out it was Annie Lennox.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: sphinx on January 20, 2003, 11:09:08 PM
Quote from: Satcho9
So....any actual stories about meeting PTA or just more nonesensical Bullshazz...?


that bullshazz is an actual true story.  pay attention next time, soldier
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: number9 on January 21, 2003, 10:48:27 AM
Just read in the news that Paul is coming to Portugal in a few weeks... PDL will only premiere here in March...


MUST. MEET. PAUL.

:twisted:
(:roll:)
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: bob on January 22, 2003, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: Sheriff Lawlessness
Good thing I still got all my old cats.

Life is good


don't be trippn
watch out who you play golf with
never let them stand behind you when you get close to the green
some asswipe will pull out the rusty iron then trip and roll down
we won't be hearing from him for a long time  
he'll write a book about nothing make it into a nothing film and only the stoopid white boys will cream.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: RegularKarate on January 22, 2003, 03:16:20 PM
damn, there's some harsh shit bein' said.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: Kumar on January 23, 2003, 03:14:19 PM
Back to PTA---I met PTA at the Toronto film fest. It was the showing of Punch Drunk Love and everyone was around Adam Sandler. So I walked up to Paul and the first thing I said was how much I love his films. He got a little uneasy and just said "thanks", I understand because I find it awkward when someone compliments you alot. You don't know whether to say yeah your right Im the best, or say your wrong Im not that good. So I just said it must be strange having people complimenting you all the time and he said "its nice but too much" And then we began talking about film and how I wanted to make film. And then I ruined it, I gave him this paper with an idea that I had for a short film. At the moment I am really embarrassed about that because the idea wasn't good, I just thought it was at the time. :oops: So yeah it was a good experience until I made a fool of myself by giving a shity film idea. haha oh well, thats life.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: RegularKarate on January 23, 2003, 03:26:28 PM
My wife's cousin looks a lot like P.T.  

He came to our wedding and when I first saw him, I was like "Paul, you came!", then he smiled and had braces, then I thought it might be Tom Cruise, then I thought it might be P.T. making fun of Tom Cruise, then I just cried.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: Xixax on January 23, 2003, 03:35:31 PM
Quote from: Kumar
I gave him this paper with an idea that I had for a short film. At the moment I am really embarrassed about that because the idea wasn't good, I just thought it was at the time. :oops:

Hah! What would you do if the next PTA movie was flavored by your idea?
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: bluejaytwist on January 23, 2003, 09:19:47 PM
pta knows blue jay
ive hung in his nest
he calls me by first name from across the street
if youve flown with me before, youve heard the stories
for those who havent
c&c skreenning mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
so soda licious
many times before and many times to come.
thanks for the flight gotti and teeghey
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: atticus jones on January 23, 2003, 11:05:12 PM
eye rem and niss
eye rem and niss...

ssssssssssssss...

a sleepy tryst i missed...
the that and this...
the hand and fist...
the drinks that kissed...
my lips dismissed...
sum long guest list...

punk lunch dove...fly away birdie...
fo eye gobble it up...

unda par for the inter course

love jones
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: xerxes on January 23, 2003, 11:31:30 PM
i'm going home
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: bob on January 24, 2003, 04:37:12 PM
Jays are notorious nest-robbers and will devour small birds and suck the eggs of other species.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: RegularKarate on January 24, 2003, 04:43:21 PM
This reminds me of everyday when I cross the sixth and Congress bus stop.  

All sorts of flavors
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: bluejaytwist on January 24, 2003, 07:18:32 PM
Quote from: bob
Jays are notorious nest-robbers and will devour small birds and suck the eggs of other species.


perhaps.

either way. i have my memories and alliances in tact.
so im not sweating it, really.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: BackUpOffMeFoo on January 27, 2003, 10:49:43 AM
Quote from: bob

don't be trippn
watch out who you play golf with
never let them stand behind you when you get close to the green
some asswipe will pull out the rusty iron then trip and roll down
we won't be hearing from him for a long time  
he'll write a book about nothing make it into a nothing film and only the stoopid white boys will cream.


Had nothing but back the whole time

I still got nothing but respect

Just lost the love that's all

bb analogy was a slam dunk. not many can touch your game.

Why thank you. You shoot the do.
Title: I met him alright... woopie
Post by: Tommy Both on January 28, 2003, 03:08:42 PM
FUCK just wrote like a motherfuckin script about the rendezvous with PTA in my little fuckin country and now the posting.php page was expired or something. . .   :x So I'll keep it short for now:


I met PTA at the premiere of P-DL at the International Film Festival Rotterdam yesterday evening..
He came to introduce the movie and do a very funny and nice Q&A afterwards...

As soon as the credits roll and were ending I decided to go and ask Paul to sign my copy of the shootingscript.. He asked if my name was with TH or just TOM and I replied with TO... he wrote For Tom , then his name , and then a funny smiley face underneath it. Real Cool, so I thanked him and congratulated him on the movie, I said it was great.

I got back to my seat, and the Q&A started, with a lot of random BS obvious questions. So I decided to ask a real diehard one:

What is a 4-84?

He didn't really get it at first, but when I noticed he also used it in Boogie Nights and now in P-DL he kinda remembered and said he didn't use it on purpose, it just sounded like a good number to be said by people.. Get some of them 4-84's ... or something like that, he thought it was a funny combination or number. .
Although probally nobody even knew what the fuck I was asking, he answered it funny, and I was pleased, the Q&A went on . . lotta laugs, PTA was good.. When the festival director -who was standing next to PTA- said they were gonna do just one more question I raised my hand again but unfortunately he didn't see me, 'cause I just wanted to ask: " what's next?"... but too bad..
well, I really had a great evening, here are some snapshots - not paparazzi style, just decent - nothing big - pictures of pta talkin at the Q&A and also standing next to the festival dude..

Here they are, enjoy:

(http://www.beef.nl/pta/pta_01.jpg)

(http://www.beef.nl/pta/pta_02.jpg)
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 28, 2003, 03:28:38 PM
He looks like Kenny Loggins.
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: Satcho9 on January 28, 2003, 06:23:30 PM
gotta get footloose..
Title: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: Duck Sauce on January 28, 2003, 07:48:30 PM
He looks like he is in his late 40s
Title: Re: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: modage on November 09, 2017, 10:19:55 AM
Not really relevant to this thread but I would guess after 20 years of Q&A's and screenings and things, PTA just doesn't want to spend all his time talking to fanboys. Figure he's had about a billion of more or less the same interaction and probably at some point just decided he'd rather cut down on it. So he sneaks in and out of stuff now cause he doesn't really wanna hang out with a bunch of awkward 20/30-something film nerds gushing over him. In my experience, he's always been super friendly but I've also seen him dash for the exits and I totally get why.
Title: Re: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Shughes on November 09, 2017, 11:09:42 AM
It sounds like PTA wrote to that guy at 15, signed his Magnolia screenplay and posed for a photo. What more does he want - blood?!

I don't think he owes anyone anything and to get your nose out of joint over something like that and say you won't watch his films anymore - even films you already love - is ludicrous. Sure, everyone deserves respect. But maybe PTA deserves more respect than to be hounded by crazy fan boys he'd rather not deal with. He's being polite - he doesn't give a shit about you and sometimes that mask slips - he doesn't know you and has no reason to want to engage. Also learn to separate the art from the artist - if it was about being a nice guy Kevin Smith would be one of the best directors ever. But it's not and the majority of his films suck (partly due to fan service). Never meet your heroes I guess. Just appreciate the work.

None of this changes the amazing work he's made and continues to make.
Title: Re: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 09, 2017, 11:40:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f2LJXz-l2k
Title: Re: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 09, 2017, 11:50:34 AM
I find no reason to excuse PTA's behavior in that case. Dropping the pen in that way seems especially cruel. He owes his fans a base level of respect. If he really hates dealing with them for too long, maybe just say "sorry guys I have to run, thanks for coming."
Title: Re: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: eward on November 09, 2017, 01:07:37 PM
Felt the need to jump in here rather randomly, but I saw him in Brooklyn this past August introducing a few Demme screenings and moderating some Q and As (I attended each day of course) and my experience of him there stands exactly opposite of the behavior alleged above. He could not have been more gracious, polite, appreciative, or giving of his time. Seriously, there was a line snaking outside the screening room consisting of fans wanting to get pics, autographs, give him gifts, etc., and he stood and talked to each person with a huge smile on his face the entire time. So, maybe NYFF nerves and a palpably divided reaction to Vice contributed to his alleged prickliness? I was also at the NYFF Vice screening a few years back and he seemed really jazzed and thrilled to be there so...I dunno....
Title: Re: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 09, 2017, 01:12:28 PM
It is very possible that the person writing this comment was pissed that the meaningful note he received from PTA was nothing important for him and then saw him dropping a pen by accident as an asshole move. Or it was an asshole move. Well. I have no conclusion to make about this.
Title: Re: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilder on November 09, 2017, 02:24:38 PM
I've seen both behaviors described above, in person and via second-hand accounts. The dismissiveness that fan experienced definitely isn’t a lone incident. That said, I fully believe in separating the art from the artist, and don’t think he “owes” the fans anything in public. It is what it is. PT’s art can be mature but that doesn’t necessarily mean he is in his personal life. I think it has something to do with early success and becoming “frozen in time”, maturity-wise, at the age that that happens. You see it with lots of other people who become famous young.

I think the core of it is that PT doesn’t give a fuck and can be kind of a dick to people outside his inner circle, but will obviously go out of his way while in the spotlight during interviews or when introducing screenings not to be, overtly, and baby you know he loves getting high on that narcissistic supply. Based on the way he’s talked about his father I also bet some of those backhanded behaviors have just been passed down.

It’s always been there. You can see the superiority complex in the Magnolia doc, “Final cut's a scary thing to give a guy like me…”, all the yes-men standing around arms-crossed, laughing along (I’m in the film industry! I’m in the cool club!) and PT’s M.O. basically “I’m going to act however I want and they’re going to conform to my behavior.” His movies themselves are about this - people creating bubble worlds with themselves at the center of the universe and everyone orbiting around them. It’s a bit of a facade — and those people break down or get angry when pressed on the validity of it. It even happened on a mini-level when he was talking to Marc Maron for IV, and was pressed on Pynchon’s identity and involvement. PT’s dropping sound bytes trying to be mysterious and Marc just calls out his bullshit “What? What are you protecting?!”. There’s no “there” there, so PT’s reaction, while playful, is just “You fuck…”. It’s like a real life avatar of Mackey’s interview scene. PT is full of contradictory behaviors, conflict is what makes people interesting, it's an aspect of why we're fascinated with him.

I remember someone here describing a Q&A after an early screening of Punch-Drunk at a college, someone asking a predictably awful meandering question, and PT making fun of him for laughs. This isn’t unique to PT, screenings are usually full of film nerds with subpar social skills trying to prove to their heroes how smart they are with their questions or why they’re special, but, you know, you can shut someone down without being an ass, too. That’s a skill in itself. All this behavior seems especially apparent to me during this PDL press conference (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbq1oNjVWJY) (famous for the 'Little Ronnie Howard' line), where yeah, he may be on drugs, and yeah, answering repetitive questions sucks, but the air of arrogance is just...not justified. He's taking full advantage of sitting on a higher stage, abusing the privilege of power.

Part of all of this cognitive dissonance about his persona just has to do with the myopia of super fans being too up close to see the bigger picture. We want to like him, we hope if we had a chance to talk we’d forge a connection and he’d like us. I had a friend who was a massive fan during his earlier (Punch-Drunk and prior) years whose admiration sort of dropped off when he went into his artier phase. He just wasn’t as much of a film nerd and didn’t have as blind reverence for the man in his interviews, etc. I remember after he heard the WTF talk for IV, during which PT seemed a bit more subdued, guessing just due to the inevitable humbling effect of having kids, my friend’s comment was “Oh, he’s no longer a bitch.

Title: Re: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 09, 2017, 02:57:36 PM
It makes me think of how Franzen was angry at the way people were creating the image of a saint for David Foster Wallace—because he wasn't. And Wallace was his friend. (He was also angry because his friend killed himself.) Like for PTA, the assholeness of Wallace is present in the books, but it is elevated because it isn't human behavior anymore but included in fiction/characters/themes. But we are used to celebrate the artists as good human beings when they do good art—more so in show business and in Hollywood.

I had a friendly what with Matthew Weiner (and he was very friendly with everyone), but I knew he could be a bully in a working environment. (Once again: you can also see how it made it into Mad Men.)
Title: Re: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 09, 2017, 03:18:11 PM
I really do think an artist should feel obligated to have respect for their fans. But failing to live up to that doesn't diminish their work for me. I try not to deify my favorite artists. And in many cases, those flaws might be a core part of their work, in the way Wilder described. (Post of the month btw.)

You could make a similar argument about LVT's flaws being integral to his work. And I guess I tried to in that thread. In other more egregious cases, maybe not so much.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: polkablues on November 09, 2017, 04:43:29 PM
Having a little bit of experience of film festivals from the filmmaker's perspective on a small scale (and having friends who have had the experience on a larger scale), I would never presume to judge a person's character from one interaction, or even a series of interactions, in that type of setting. You're generally operating on little sleep, often immediately after travelling, you're already physically and emotionally drained from that final push to get the movie in a finished state, you don't always have time to eat when you should, you compensate for your exhaustion with as much caffeine as you can get your hands on, you're being pulled in every direction, your attention is constantly being demanded from multiple sides at once... a person would have to be a literal saint to get through it without ever getting curt or abrupt or laughing at the wrong thing or inadvertently causing offense to someone who may or may not have any reasonable right to be offended. For anyone who leans to the introverted side of the fence, it's an utterly overwhelming experience, and I can't imagine one you ever get fully used to.

That's not to say he's not a dick. Maybe he is a dick! But I would be unable to vote guilty in a court of dickishness based solely on that testimony.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: Tdog on November 09, 2017, 07:02:48 PM
It's disappointing to read that guy's comment and from the looks of his twitter he actually does interact with a fair few industry people.
Having said that who knows how we'd react if we were in PTA's position. Im not excusing him being a dick but from the sounds of his behaviour it sounds like he's being consumed by a big ball of stress and anxiety and maybe add in a shitty nights sleep and you get someone trying to get from point A to point B in a foul mood with people trying to stop him every 5 seconds. I know what happens when Im stressed and I can be a fucking asshole but Im a nice person most of the time. Who knows?

I just joined the forum, I've lurked for a long time and have always enjoyed people's insights. I dont have a PTA encounter but I do have a weird Daniel Day Lewis encounter. It was August a year ago and myself and two friends went hiking in the mountains of County Wicklow, Ireland (it's the county south of Dublin). DDL has lived there for years, as has John Boorman, it's quite literally Zardoz territory. We were about 90 minutes into our hike which was this winding trail that climbed a mountain through various forests. We hadnt encountered any other hikers in about 40 minutes when suddenly these two sasquatch like figures appeared from a higher up trail, staggering their feet to stop themselves running anymore downhill. Then as they started walking towards us, in the middle of fucking nowhere, I realised, it was Daniel Day Lewis. As we passed each other we all just did the regular hiker thing and exchanged a polite "hello". He was with his kid and we were walking fast in opposite directions so I didnt want to bother him. At the time I would have really liked to ask him what was going on with him and PTA  since there was a report around that time that they were reuniting for a fashion project. Ultimately it didnt matter, we all got the good news later that year. Anyway that's my story, I encountered DDL halfway up a mountain, I chose not to bother him and in that one hello he seemed like a nice guy!
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever met PTA? Tell us your stories....
Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on November 09, 2017, 07:10:54 PM
I remember someone here describing a Q&A after an early screening of Punch-Drunk at a college, someone asking a predictably awful meandering question, and PT making fun of him for laughs. This isn’t unique to PT, screenings are usually full of film nerds with subpar social skills trying to prove to their heroes how smart they are with their questions or why they’re special, but, you know, you can shut someone down without being an ass, too.

I think that may have been me, asking about why he switched editors at NYFF, which, I'm sure I was stuttering and trying to sound smart or whatever, and he wasn't being a dick, he just kinda made a joke as if the question I was asking was "Did you switch editors to make the film shorter than your last one?".

Or maybe you're referring to another screening of PDL where a dude asked a really really weird question about the frogs that Paul kind of deflected, and then said to the next audience member "Youre not gonna be weird too, are you?" Fun Xixax historical anectdote: That's also the origin of the username AntiDumbFrogQuestion.

I mean let's be honest, most Q&A questions are fucking terrible, and its nerve-wracking enough to be on stage to begin with, even when you're getting good questions, so I really don't see an issue with PTA cracking jokes about it.

I've met him in person at these events a few times over the years and he's generally just seemed sort of stressed about the screening and not super into chatting it up with a bunch of strangers that feel as if they have some special connection to him, or that he owes them something. Which is totally fine. He's an artist, not a star. And the art he makes is edgy, and challenging, and often about difficult people, and there's really no reason to expect him to treat fans like he's Tom Hanks or Keanu Reeves or whatever.

They say never meet your heroes, but as I get older, the idea of having heroes is kind of fucking weird, anyway. And the idea of trying to make saints of deeply flawed creative types is kind of stupid. Isn't it enough to just love someone's work? Why do we have to indulge this fantasy that maybe if we get to meet them they'll think we're cool and end up being our best friend? Does that make his films any better? As far as I'm concerned, he can be as prickly as he wants as long as he keeps making dope shit.

EDIT: Also holy shit going back to the beginning of this thread is insane. So much drama and weird posturing back in the early days after the exodus from C&RV. Someone oughta write a book.
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Post by: wilder on November 09, 2017, 07:29:45 PM
Or maybe you're referring to another screening of PDL where a dude asked a really really weird question about the frogs that Paul kind of deflected, and then said to the next audience member "Youre not gonna be weird too, are you?" Fun Xixax historical anectdote: That's also the origin of the username AntiDumbFrogQuestion.

That was it.

I don’t disagree with anything you said. He doesn’t have to be nice. I just think there’s this myth perpetuated about being extremely “sweet” and “charming”, and it’s like, yeah, sometimes, but let’s also be real. Plainview doesn’t come from nowhere. No need to pretend it’s all gravy. It's great to be able to hang and not get your panties in a knot, but at the same time the industry has such a fetish for "thick skin", often used as euphemism for "can deal with a lack of human decency", that it makes me a little sick. When someone calls him on the carpet it's usually discounted exactly because of that hero worship.

For clarification: one of the incidents I’m referring to happened when someone ran into him walking on the street, not associated with any press or screening. He just asked if he was who he thought he was and PT spun around and gave him this long, dark, sacarstic drawl “Yeaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh” like “Fuck. Off”. He didn't have to respond, but went out of his way to fuck with the guy's emotions.
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Post by: mogwai on November 09, 2017, 11:49:08 PM
The dude has four kids. Yo.
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Post by: axxonn on November 10, 2017, 07:23:58 AM
I love Paul's movies but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if that YT comment is representative of a lot of his behaviour IRL. It doesn't really bother me, the separation between the idealised artist and the man is something I came to terms with at a pretty young age.
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Post by: Tdog on November 10, 2017, 10:49:32 AM
I can seperate the art from the artist no problem. I think the issue is more so that PTA presents himself in press situations as this mild mannered, soft spoken, polite cool guy and then by these accounts CAN be a collosal asshole to his fans.

Yeah he doesnt owe anybody anything but I'd rather there be no fascade. The way people are describing these encounters sounds reminiscent of the time an interviewer asked him the leading question of whether Tom Cruise had been shown The Master. PT got understandably vicious but save that shit for people who deserve it, not people who enjoy your work and like you.
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Post by: Drenk on November 10, 2017, 11:08:27 AM
That question about Tom Cruise was fucking dumb—and his issue was that he had answered it many times and everyone knew the answer. But he has been asked the same question in the Charlie Rose show and stayed polite. But this is a great exemple of him showing this side in public. Then: come on, everyone tries to act good in front of a camera. That's human.
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Post by: jviness02 on November 10, 2017, 12:14:13 PM
Quite frankly, all these stories just paint the picture of real dude. He's not a saint, but I also don't think he's some horrible guy who always treats people like shit.  There's too many stories and first hand accounts of him being super cool to fans and his co-workers etc. Like many have said, it is weird(and honestly unhealthy) to hero worship, but to me it is equally weird to be like "oh we have proof he's not perfect and has been an ass at times? Fuck him, his films were always trash anyway".
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Post by: Rooty Poots on November 10, 2017, 11:17:58 PM
Yeah he doesnt owe anybody anything but I'd rather there be no fascade.

So because he can be an asshole sometimes, he should be an asshole all the time?
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Post by: Tdog on November 11, 2017, 09:40:16 AM
 No he can be however he wants. I guess I'm just surprised to hear he can be the polar opposite to how he conducts himself in promo situations and also because I had heard from past Cigs And Red Vines administrators that he was a genuinely nice guy when they met him (think it was Modage). But people can be many things, I'm sure he can be friendly and other times pissy, everyone is and it was naive of me to think he might be otherwise. It makes sense though considering the work.

He's human and he makes great art about troubled complicated people so I suppose I shouldnt be surprised that he might be the same. As has been mentioned before he's REALLY GOOD at hiding where his ideas come from. For instance David Lynch and Tarantino characters talk like those directors but it's hard to say that PTA's characters sound like him or possess his thoughts/feelings because he becomes so vague and slippery in interviews. The most you can get about Paul is that he makes emotionally resonant works but also loves fart jokes. Even that comes from a second hand source. It's in the work too of course, his movies are hilarious!

Its hard to find details on things. I remember a late Phillip Seymour Hoffmann interview where he talked about meeting Paul and Paul's new girlfriend, who he was in love with, in a restaurant. And Paul grabbed him and started wrestling with him in the middle of the restaurant just like Master and Freddie when they reconcile after the prison scene. The point being there are probably really personal moments and feelings going into his work but he never discusses it publicly and talks broadly about things so it becomes easy for me to think that a lot of the work might be imagined.

There's also the conflict with the theme of something like Magnolia. He said on WTF "It's about my Dad" with a lot of effection in his voice. And he's always talks about how much he loves his Dad, how great a guy he was. But then he makes an entire movie about Dad's being the biggest pieces of shit! What?

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Post by: Rooty Poots on November 11, 2017, 10:23:10 AM
I agree with all that, but back on the idea of PTA being an asshole to his fans, I can probably come off the exact same way right before I give a lecture after little to no sleep—and I’m generally regarded as a gregarious, friendly and generous guy. Also, I’m in an environment where I’m often crowded by people I don’t know wanting to talk to me. I used to patiently take time to chat with everyone. I slowly learned I had to give that up—I can’t just chat with everyone, it takes forever. But in avoiding chatting with people, I haven’t found a way to do it where I don’t come off as an asshole. And I’m not even a celebrity or a renowned director who has to deal with this *constantly*.

Still, even on my worst days, when I come in grumpy and don’t want to deal with anyone, I can turn off the attitude *like that* if I need to, like for an interview or whatever.
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Post by: Tdog on November 11, 2017, 01:13:30 PM
https://twitter.com/Richard_Finlay_/status/519143136904626176?s=17

It seems to be true. This is the guy and his pic with an undercover PTA.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 11, 2017, 02:32:51 PM
A-Paul-ingly
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Post by: Something Spanish on November 11, 2017, 02:48:05 PM
He's a filmmaker, not Jimmy Fallon. I've meet him twice and seen him at five different events, never detected a shred of assholery, but even if I saw what was described I wouldn't feel appalled or let it shape my perception. Judge the man by his work, as long as he's not sexually harassing anyone he's a-ok.

I was so jazzed to meet him in a 2003 showing of PDL (BAM put together a little fest of 2002's best) that upon learning the venue added an additional screening of the film, this one to be introduced by PTA and PSH as opposed to the Q&A that was to follow the original screening I copped tickets to, I left in the middle of the movie to see him intro in the auditorium next door, hanging out in the back. When he finished I ambushed him in between both auditoriums and shook his hand telling him I left in the middle of the movie because I had to meet him to which he replied something like, "well get back in there and watch", which was a really sweet was to shake me off as he darted right into the theater to watch some himself. Spoke to him twice more that night, for probably a total of 60-seconds notwithstanding my Q at the Q&A and left thinking he's one of the nicest guys I've ever meet. He was surprised I had the PDL DVD early because it was a few days away from release, but I bought one at Kim's Video which always had stuff a bit early. Still own the DVD with his and Hoffman's sig.
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Post by: wilder on November 11, 2017, 02:49:46 PM
Some of us must remember this:

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Although Anderson is one of the most autobiographical filmmakers of his generation, drawing heavily on his childhood in the San Fernando Valley, most stories about him offer some variation on "very little is known about his early years" or "little is known about Paul's childhood." He has stopped talking to most of his friends from those years, and none of them can say whether he just moved on naturally or broke with his past for some secret reason.

"When he did Magnolia," Stevens says, "I sent word through someone who worked with him to tell Paul it would be great if he could come back for a visit. I'd love to see him. And the answer came: 'Paul doesn't go back.'"

'The Secret History of Paul Thomas Anderson' - Esquire (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a4973/paul-thomas-anderson-1008/)
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Post by: BigSock on November 11, 2017, 04:03:20 PM
Friends of mine have seen him or met him personally at various NYC functions

Someone I know got a picture with him, while during another instance PTA declined photos at NYFF for Inherent Vice and was in a rush

I suppose it just depends on the event and timing naturally since most fan encounters are awkward scrambles for all involved

What's more important is that he doesn't appear to be some horrible person with abusive secrets
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Post by: Tdog on November 11, 2017, 09:16:21 PM
He said in a Boogie era interview that he used to do tons of coke while working a job pre "Sydney". Can't remember what the job was, might have been a courier or some sort of delivery job. You'd need to go through the Boogie interview archive on Cigs and Red Vines for more info.
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Post by: Something Spanish on November 12, 2017, 05:12:25 AM
https://youtu.be/v0CQh9fI8B8
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Post by: axxonn on November 12, 2017, 08:23:51 AM
Some of us must remember this:

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Although Anderson is one of the most autobiographical filmmakers of his generation, drawing heavily on his childhood in the San Fernando Valley, most stories about him offer some variation on "very little is known about his early years" or "little is known about Paul's childhood." He has stopped talking to most of his friends from those years, and none of them can say whether he just moved on naturally or broke with his past for some secret reason.

"When he did Magnolia," Stevens says, "I sent word through someone who worked with him to tell Paul it would be great if he could come back for a visit. I'd love to see him. And the answer came: 'Paul doesn't go back.'"

'The Secret History of Paul Thomas Anderson' - Esquire (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a4973/paul-thomas-anderson-1008/)

I've heard a LOT of jokes being made in film circles about him being addicted cocaine etc and going to rehab. Never got a source on that.

Isn't there a moment in That Moment when you can sort of see Paul snort some coke? Think it's during the filming of the diner scene (which was a stressful reshoot, right?)
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Post by: KJ on November 12, 2017, 12:13:20 PM
I actually met Paul at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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Post by: polkablues on November 12, 2017, 01:49:06 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8IK1HX0.jpg)
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Post by: Rooty Poots on November 12, 2017, 02:43:35 PM
“to prevent any electrical infetterence,”

There's our next marquee quote, is what I'm thinking.

But seriously, folks.  What an....interesting story.  I'm really not sure what to make of that.  Without some context (what was his day like before that, etc), it's kind of a head-scratcher.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-saw-flying-lotus-in-a-grocery-store-copypasta
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Post by: wilberfan on November 12, 2017, 03:02:32 PM
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-saw-flying-lotus-in-a-grocery-store-copypasta

I've been had.  But I've also been educated, so there's that.
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Post by: Tdog on November 12, 2017, 05:55:49 PM

Quote

Isn't there a moment in That Moment when you can sort of see Paul snort some coke? Think it's during the filming of the diner scene (which was a stressful reshoot, right?)
I don't recall that but he's 100% can be seen rolling joints in the editing room with Fiona Apple.
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Post by: Drenk on November 12, 2017, 06:19:14 PM
I'm surprised he didn't also snort the fake cocaine on Magnolia.

I'm glad he seems to have stopped. I love The Hateful 8, but I wonder what a Tarantino cocaine free would have changed for his cinema.
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Post by: Tdog on November 12, 2017, 09:27:32 PM
His films probably wouldn't have been so bloates and indulgent. I think Hateful 8 is his best film since Kill Bill Vol. 1.
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Post by: KJ on November 13, 2017, 11:19:06 AM
I have received PM's regarding my story, and I just want people to know that it did in fact happen. I am as saddened by this as anyone else, but we have to be strong and support eachother during these tough times. We survived the triggering opinions thread and we can survive this too.

Take care, #prayforpaul <3
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Post by: wilberfan on November 13, 2017, 02:20:42 PM
I just want people to know that it did in fact happen.
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Post by: mogwai on November 16, 2017, 07:18:13 AM
Some of us must remember this:

Quote
Although Anderson is one of the most autobiographical filmmakers of his generation, drawing heavily on his childhood in the San Fernando Valley, most stories about him offer some variation on "very little is known about his early years" or "little is known about Paul's childhood." He has stopped talking to most of his friends from those years, and none of them can say whether he just moved on naturally or broke with his past for some secret reason.

"When he did Magnolia," Stevens says, "I sent word through someone who worked with him to tell Paul it would be great if he could come back for a visit. I'd love to see him. And the answer came: 'Paul doesn't go back.'"

'The Secret History of Paul Thomas Anderson' - Esquire (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a4973/paul-thomas-anderson-1008/)

I've heard a LOT of jokes being made in film circles about him being addicted cocaine etc and going to rehab. Never got a source on that.

I’m definitely sure he went to rehab after Ted Demme died. I’m
Also sure Tarantino also did some rehab after Jackie Brown.

#pubrick