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Title: Best Sound
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 05, 2003, 11:06:02 AM
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Best Sound: PUNCH-DRUNK LOVE

THE NOMINEES

Lord of the Rings: Two Towers
Minority Report
Punch-Drunk Love
Signs
Star Wars: Attack of the Clones
Title: Best Sound
Post by: Xixax on March 05, 2003, 12:49:07 PM
Um. OK. Let me get this straight.

PDL had better sound than Attack of the Clones or Lord of the Rings?

Lay off the crack, people!
Title: Best Sound
Post by: SHAFTR on March 05, 2003, 12:51:13 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Xixax...Attack of the Clones had amazing sound.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: ębrad on March 05, 2003, 12:57:50 PM
Also agree. PDL can be the best picture- it doesn't have to win every category.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: Raikus on March 05, 2003, 01:01:09 PM
Well, it's not a huge surprise that PDL won in categories undeserving. What's the percentage ration of old PTA boards as opposed to new people? 95%

This isn't a gripe, mind you, just that I figured something like this would happen. That being said, it's not like the Xixax awards actually hold any sway. I don't think we'll see the DVD cover to PDL with "Winner of 8 Xixax Awards for 2003. Best picture, best sound, best editing, best soundtrack, best fanboy's wetdream..."
Title: Best Sound
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 05, 2003, 01:07:19 PM
I think there was a huge PDL / Adaptation rally overall, much more than in the nominations. Just remember that several of PDL's victories were close.

This was actually one of the categories I was especially hoping PDL would win. It's one of those movies, like Requiem For a Dream, where you really remember the sound, cause it's a close part of the movie, not just an accompaniment to special effects. I think with technical awards like this, people really thought about the context. And who can resist talking pudding?
Title: Best Sound
Post by: ębrad on March 05, 2003, 01:10:55 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
I think there was a huge PDL / Adaptation rally overall, much more than in the nominations. Just remember that several of PDL's victories were close.

This was actually one of the categories I was especially hoping PDL would win. It's one of those movies, like Requiem For a Dream, where you really remember the sound, cause it's a close part of the movie, not just an accompaniment to special effects. I think with technical awards like this, people really thought about the context. And who can resist talking pudding?


Hmm, your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: Jon on March 05, 2003, 01:15:46 PM
Quote from: Xixax
Um. OK. Let me get this straight.

PDL had better sound than Attack of the Clones or Lord of the Rings?

Lay off the crack, people!


PDL effected me, sound-wise, a HELL of a lot more than SW:AOTC. Sound adds to the film, obviously, and it added a little to SW, but in PDL, it was a fucking character. I think.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: silentasylum on March 05, 2003, 01:31:07 PM
i'd have to agree with the idea that the sound in PDL had a much more affect than attack of the clones, i mean in attack of the clones you had digital effects, space ships flying and shooting what sound is that suppose to produce? give someone a $100 million dollar budget and you'll be amazed at the sounds they can produce.

my vote probably would have gone to road to perdition in this category
Title: Best Sound
Post by: RegularKarate on March 05, 2003, 01:39:53 PM
To be honest, I've actually met sound designers who say that the Star Wars prequels are poorly mixed.  This isn't the reason I didn't vote for SW ( I didn't vote for PDL either), but I think the sound In AOC is a tad overbearing and not as impressive as other films out this year.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 05, 2003, 01:47:04 PM
PDL had quarky sounds that were far different than anything I have ever heard,
Title: Best Sound
Post by: phil marlowe on March 05, 2003, 01:50:44 PM
The Lord of the Rings sound rocked because it had maories(sp?). Damn those people have their way with their voices.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: Xixax on March 05, 2003, 02:40:30 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
To be honest, I've actually met sound designers who say that the Star Wars prequels are poorly mixed.  This isn't the reason I didn't vote for SW ( I didn't vote for PDL either), but I think the sound In AOC is a tad overbearing and not as impressive as other films out this year.


Oh, come on. When you hear those blasty things they're setting off in the asteriod chase with Jango Fett in surround sound, it's pretty darn awesome. I remember in the theater I was like, "damn!"
Title: Best Sound
Post by: MacGuffin on March 05, 2003, 03:33:01 PM
Might have been the theater I saw it in, but I found the sound for the scene when Elizabeth brings Lena by to pick up her car more of a huge distraction than an accompaniment.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 05, 2003, 03:35:06 PM
Quote from: Xixax
When you hear those blasty things they're setting off in the asteriod chase with Jango Fett in surround sound, it's pretty darn awesome. I remember in the theater I was like, "damn!"


Yeah, but a lot of SW sounds are recycled from the first movie. And while that's exciting in an extremely nerdy way, I find myself generally disollusioned with the new SW movies, and nothing technical does much to improve them for me.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: Rudie Obias on March 05, 2003, 09:38:26 PM
i really think the other voters on this board are a lil' biased towards PTA.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: Cecil on March 05, 2003, 09:44:43 PM
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i really think the other voters on this board are a lil' biased towards PTA.


im one of those other members, and i have to say that i didnt like the nominations i had to choose from. i listed pdl 3 times. all my other nominations were for other movies. in the end, i did the best with what i was able to vote for.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: Ghostboy on March 06, 2003, 12:10:00 AM
Star Wars? PDL? Doesn't matter, the award still goes to Gary Rydstrom either way, the most brilliant sound designer in the biz.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: Film Student on March 06, 2003, 01:50:09 AM
Quote from: RegularKarate
To be honest, I've actually met sound designers who say that the Star Wars prequels are poorly mixed.  This isn't the reason I didn't vote for SW ( I didn't vote for PDL either), but I think the sound In AOC is a tad overbearing and not as impressive as other films out this year.


Interesting, since the same person (Gary Rydstrom) did the sound for both movies.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: RegularKarate on March 06, 2003, 10:51:45 AM
Quote from: Film Student
Quote from: RegularKarate
To be honest, I've actually met sound designers who say that the Star Wars prequels are poorly mixed.  This isn't the reason I didn't vote for SW ( I didn't vote for PDL either), but I think the sound In AOC is a tad overbearing and not as impressive as other films out this year.


Interesting, since the same person (Gary Rydstrom) did the sound for both movies.


Yeah, he did the sound mixing for both... and the same person (Roman Polanski) directed Chinatown and The Ninth Gate.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: life_boy on March 06, 2003, 03:26:47 PM
Don't blame me, I voted for Minority Report.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: bonanzataz on March 06, 2003, 04:37:33 PM
I have to admit I'm biased towards PDL but I really did think that this movie had the best sound in a movie that I've heard in a long time. What with the sweeping orchestral soundtrack blasting the speakers or the car just exploding out of nowhere, the soft, whirr of the wind. I LOVE the sound in this movie. I also loved the sound in the other movies nominated, but PDL got the vote for its originality. You KNOW that a sci-fi or action/adventure movie is going to have a good sound mix. It's expected that there will be lots of bass action. Those sound mixes were just standard, by the book mixes that have now become routine with those types of movies. Who expects an amazing soundtrack to an adam sandler/pt anderson comedy?
Title: Best Sound
Post by: Film Student on March 07, 2003, 01:34:48 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate
Quote from: Film Student
Quote from: RegularKarate
To be honest, I've actually met sound designers who say that the Star Wars prequels are poorly mixed.  This isn't the reason I didn't vote for SW ( I didn't vote for PDL either), but I think the sound In AOC is a tad overbearing and not as impressive as other films out this year.


Interesting, since the same person (Gary Rydstrom) did the sound for both movies.


Yeah, he did the sound mixing for both... and the same person (Roman Polanski) directed Chinatown and The Ninth Gate.


Touche.
Title: Best Sound
Post by: oakmanc234 on March 19, 2003, 07:44:47 PM
'PDL' did deserve this.

As for 'Star Wars', its just the same f***in 'zing' 'zong' 'zang' that we've heard from all the other ones.

Big whoop.

'PDL' sounded like something completely different. The music that didn't appear to match its sequence (but did), the sudden explosions of sound, musical score overiding the actions etc. All incredible.