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The Director's Chair => Stanley Kubrick => Topic started by: jokerspath on June 06, 2003, 10:32:20 AM

Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: jokerspath on June 06, 2003, 10:32:20 AM
Granted, its probably poor quality and nothing at all like the Kubrick we know but, out of curiosity, is it possible to purchase or watch any of the early Kubrick stuff, like Day Of The Fight and Flying Padre (is there anything else besides the Seafarers?).

I know The Seafarers was released on video a while ago, and I've had little to no luck finding a way to purchase it (I also heard it was gonna get put on DVD, but who knows if that's true)...

And on a side note, I was under the impression that the Kubrick docu. that came w/ the box set was getting released as a double DVD, possibly coming with the new book of the same name.  Anyone have information on that?

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Title: Re: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: MacGuffin on June 06, 2003, 10:43:50 AM
Quote from: jokerspath
And on a side note, I was under the impression that the Kubrick docu. that came w/ the box set was getting released as a double DVD, possibly coming with the new book of the same name.  Anyone have information on that?


Click here. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00007FX2Y/qid%3D1053124864/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-6705707-2965451)
Title: Thanks again.
Post by: jokerspath on June 06, 2003, 10:52:42 AM
Really hope that thing comes out soon, if at all...

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Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: ono on June 06, 2003, 11:46:33 AM
I've been wondering about when that set is going to come out for several months now.  Still no word on Amazon.com.  Any ideas?  (Amazon always seems to be a bit behind on release dates.)
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: SoNowThen on June 06, 2003, 11:52:24 AM
That sounds sooo good...
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: jokerspath on July 29, 2003, 08:33:20 AM
I just was looking this up to see if they had a release date and it says this:
Availability: This item will be released on December 31, 2025. You may order it now and we will ship it to you when it arrives.

That's pretty rad.  Had anybody else already caught this?  I assume its either 1) a joke (not too likely), 2) a mistake, or 3) the furthest date in their computer for when something has no discernible release date and instead of taking it down, they put this up.  Its gonna be a good New Year's Eve.  Happy 2026 everyone!!

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Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: filmcritic on July 29, 2003, 09:45:29 AM
Man, I can't wait over 20 years for the documentary!
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: Cecil on July 29, 2003, 10:22:30 PM
i think theyre waiting for kubrick to resurrect
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: jokerspath on August 07, 2003, 12:58:08 PM
I know this is more of a completist's idea of a wet dream, but rumors abound about The Seafarers coming to DVD soon.  I was in contact with a guy who claimed he was close to putting them out (who had posts on amk saying the same thing in '99) and that he was bringing in a few people to do a commentary and working out the kinks.  And now I hear that Roger Avary and Keith Gordon did some sort of commentary for it recently (how does one discuss a little seen promotional film that bears little to no directorial stamp?).  

Anyway, this was the initial reason I came to this board (the first post on this thread might be my actual first post), to find the rare Kubrick stuff and talk about his films.  Now I'm hooked.  Good times...

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Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: Pwaybloe on August 07, 2003, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: filmcritic
Man, I can't wait over 20 years for the documentary!


Dude, you'll only be 25 then!
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: Pubrick on August 07, 2003, 01:13:03 PM
(http://www.x-entertainment.com/annoy/lol.jpg)
tru tho.
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: Spike on September 01, 2003, 02:52:38 PM
I would like to see "Day of the Fight". It was Kubricks very first experience in filmmaking.
Is "Fear and Desire" a feature-film or a short?
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: jokerspath on September 02, 2003, 09:27:25 AM
Quote from: Spike
Is "Fear and Desire" a feature-film or a short?


IMDB has it listed as 68 min.  

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Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: mutinyco on September 07, 2003, 11:50:59 AM
Fear and Desire is considered a feature. Avary and Gordon did record commentary for The Seafarers-- Avary talked about it on his website. If you put Kubrick's films together in order you'll see basically the chronology of the first successful indie filmmaker. He started out making cheap movies with his family's help, then graduated to small studio pictures, then total control over massive productions. He set the paradigm for the modern ideal. Everybody from Scorsese to Coppola to the Coens to Raimi on up has followed this path...
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: Pubrick on September 07, 2003, 12:00:12 PM
yes, and the birds go 'tweet'.
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: mutinyco on September 07, 2003, 01:31:22 PM
Or "HHHHUUUMMMMM..." in your case...
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on September 07, 2003, 01:45:09 PM
If you haven't seen them, "The Killer" and "Killer's Kiss" are widely available (and on Netflix).
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: RegularKarate on September 07, 2003, 02:54:52 PM
Seriously though, I've seen all of these and Day of the Fight is really the only one that I would REALLY like to own.

Of course, for collections sake, I would like to have everything Kubrick, but the rest are only "interesting" because you can see how he started to get that Kubrick feel.

Fear and Desire... man, I'm glad I've seen it, but it's kind of funny how bad it is compared to all his other films.  I mean I can see why he didn't want anyone to ever see it.
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: MacGuffin on September 07, 2003, 03:03:05 PM
Quote from: mutinyco
Or "HHHHUUUMMMMM..." in your case...


Except that P's avatar is a bee.
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: aclockworkjj on September 07, 2003, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Except that P's avatar is a bee.

that's no bee.
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on September 07, 2003, 03:59:20 PM
Quote from: aclockworkjj
that's no bee.


Oh, it's a bee...
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: mutinyco on September 08, 2003, 09:51:41 AM
Looks like a humming bird. I've never seen a green bee. In that case, BBBUUUUZZZZZ...
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: rustinglass on November 19, 2004, 07:34:24 AM
I stumbled upon the flying padre on a peer2peer last night! I had to download it. It's really fun to watch and it has some truly great shots, particularly the last one.
Title: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: Ash on February 27, 2005, 11:45:07 AM
You can download all of Kubrick's early films from -

www.emule-project.net

They are all pretty good quality too. :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: Kubrick's early work
Post by: Lord Rocksavage on March 27, 2005, 09:46:01 AM
I just ordered two copies of Fear and Desire plus a copy of the Stanley Kubrick collection (1951-1953) off ebay.  The collection DVD has Fear and Desire plus early shortrs.  It does not contain however the Early American short that he was second unit director on (the name escapes me just now).  All this stuff was reasonably priced though seller admits that Fear and desire is not A quality.  I'm really glad to get them.

L.R.
Title: Re: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: cowboykurtis on March 09, 2006, 07:14:04 PM
Flying Padre on YouTube - shitty quality, but something nonetheless

http://youtube.com/watch?v=inSdwXS2gGU&search=stanley%20kubrick
Title: Re: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: Reinhold on March 10, 2006, 08:04:48 AM
we watched the fear and desire available for purchase online in class... the copy we had was almost impressively awful. it looked like a 25th-generation VHS.

if you're interested in seeing it in 35mm, there's a print at the Eastman theater in Rochester, NY. they do screenings for students who call ahead of time. a letter of introduction from a prof probably isn't a bad idea, either.
Title: Re: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: MacGuffin on August 13, 2013, 03:06:53 PM
Stanley Kubrick’s First Color Film, ‘The Seafarers,’ Streaming on IndieFlix
The 1953 documentary helped Kubrick fund his first feature 'Fear and Desire'
Source: Variety

IndieFlix has landed the rights to stream Stanley Kubrick’s first color film, the documentary “The Seafarers.”

“The Seafarers,” available now, will be part of IndieFlix’s Royalty Pool Minutes payment model, which pays filmmakers based on how many minutes their films are watched on devices that offer IndieFlix, from smartphones to smart TVs, rather than a flat licensing fee.

Released in October 1953, the 30-minute short film is considered one of the key pieces of the Kubrick filmography, considering it’s the first color feature Kubrick directed and produced.

Written by Will Chasen and narrated by CBS News’ Don Hollenbeck, the documentary extolls the benefits of membership to the Seafarers International Union, the largest North American union representing merchant mariners.

“The Seafarers” is notable not only for its use of color, but because it features an extended dolly shot that tips its hat to other signature cinematic tricks Kubrick was later noted for in his more popular pics. Money earned from the film helped Kubrick fund his first feature, “Fear and Desire,” released in 1953. It had previously been distributed on DVD in 2008 and was the third documentary short that he produced.

“Many of today’s greatest directors got their start in the independent film space, so getting the rights to an early work of such an important filmmaker is a huge honor,” said Scilla Andreen, CEO of IndieFlix. “It shows that we’re doing something right.”

http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/stanley-kubricks-first-color-film-the-seafarers-streaming-on-indieflix-1200576897/
Title: Re: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: wilder on August 13, 2013, 03:59:27 PM
The Seafarers is also available as an HD extra on the Masters of Cinema release of Fear and Desire (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fear-Desire-Masters-Cinema-Blu-ray/dp/B0098XEFAG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376427423&sr=8-1&keywords=fear+and+desire), as well as Kino's release of Fear and Desire (http://www.amazon.com/Fear-Desire-Blu-ray-Frank-Silvera/dp/B007K8ILUQ), however, the MoC also contains Kubrick's early short films Day of the Flight (1951) and Flying Padre (1951).
Title: Re: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: Pubrick on August 14, 2013, 07:40:28 AM
that's all well and good but there is almost nothing of value in these films. if anything they taint a perfect record.

people should be encouraged to watch EWS once a year and they'd get a billion times more reward than ever watching The Seafarers or Day of the Fight or whatever else he disowned. i regret watching his early films, just as he would be completely against their re-release.

they should be treated as a perverted curio. suitable to obsessive compulsive completists, but not to serious film enthusiasts. there are much more important things to watch than something that is best forgotten by all.
Title: Re: Any clue how to purchase or watch the early stuff...
Post by: Lottery on August 14, 2013, 07:45:53 AM
I think they're important to have, kinda show his development and work ethic. He may have hated them but I'm glad they exist. I mostly think of his mid to later stuff and it keeps me keenly invested in his work. I do recommend the watch EWS once a year idea.