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Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on May 17, 2003, 12:35:45 PM
I've heard whisperings that we may get a new Special Edition, since the old dvd is oop. Anybody confirm?
Title: Scarface
Post by: godardian on May 17, 2003, 12:39:32 PM
I've been hearing this for quite a while, but I still don't see any immediate sign.

MacGuffin knows, I bet.
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: Duck Sauce on May 17, 2003, 02:03:39 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
I've heard whisperings that we may get a new Special Edition, since the old dvd is oop. Anybody confirm?


Rappers rejoice
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on May 17, 2003, 02:37:31 PM
What I found from a exclusive "Scarface" site:

What's up with the DVD being out of print!
Apparently this has been discontinued and now commands a very high price! Word is they are going to release a new edition (although they currently deny it), but I haven't heard when. Most likely later in 2003.
If you see a "Scarface DVD" on ebay or other online auctions, or amazon marketplace, be sure it's the real DVD, not a VCD or asian bootleg. I've seen some sold as "DTS DVD" but I've never heard of Scarface released as DTS, so I doubt they're legit.
 
How many times is the word fuck said in Scarface?
Okay, I needed a definitive answer and I finally got around to it. No where on the www could I find a total I trusted. One site said 206, but I counted 218. I counted the other curses, too, with closed-captioning on. (I counted more than was in the subtitles). I don't know about the Blink 182 theory, that they got "182" fuck's from the film, but someone suggested that maybe it was the number of times Tony himself said it rather than everyone combined. Or maybe they took 218 and moved the 2 to the end to make 182?
218 "fucks" in a 170 minute movie!

Here's the breakdown:

Fuck: 218 (Fucking, 101; Fuck, 99; Fucked, 12; Fucker, 2; Motherfucker, 4)
Shit: 19
Bullshit: 4
Cocksucker: 7
Ass: 9
Asshole: 8
Son of a bitch: 5
Bitch: 1
Pussy: 4
Prick: 2
Bastard: 1

That's 278 total curses -- one every 36 seconds!
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on May 17, 2003, 03:10:45 PM
When it is re-released, I think the main features will be a remastered picture and in DTS rather than more extras.
Title: Scarface
Post by: modage on May 17, 2003, 03:11:21 PM
how dated is the soundtrack to this movie?
Title: Scarface
Post by: godardian on May 17, 2003, 03:23:48 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
how dated is the soundtrack to this movie?


De Palma always has the cheesiest music in his movies- I always think of the field-exercise scene in Carrie- 'cos I think he's always trying to be really contemporary. Which, 20 years later, can be pretty obvious.

I like Debbie Harry, though. Maybe "Rush Rush" is just cheesy eighties synth-pop, but I think it's at least as good as "Call Me" (my least favorite Blondie song after "The Tide is High"), and we are talking about the man who directed a music vid for Frankie Goes to Hollywood.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Victor on May 18, 2003, 03:42:01 PM
how dated is the soundtrack for boogie nights? as long as it works for the story.

anyway, no wonder those netflix motherfuckers dont have it. how can a classic like this be out of print, thats ludicrous.
Title: what's up with scarface?
Post by: film_gawd on May 20, 2003, 02:14:41 AM
i'm sorry to break this to you guys but scarface is truely one of the worst pictures ever.  i'm completely boggled as to why every wanna be playa/gangsta is so into that movie!  the film as no plot or character development, and at a three hour running time, it damn well should have at least on of those!  plus the acting is terrible, which is unusal for pacino.  maybe its just me and i "don't get it" but just becuase a film is old does not qaulify it to be a classic.  don't let that term just fly around to any film older than fifteen years.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Cecil on May 20, 2003, 09:30:46 AM
troll
Title: Scarface
Post by: Pubrick on May 20, 2003, 09:39:15 AM
Quote from: cecil b. demented
troll

yep, what can u do.. they hav the internet in high schools now.
Title: Scarface
Post by: RegularKarate on May 20, 2003, 11:36:24 AM
Ignore those comments... he's just a Poser
Title: Scarface
Post by: Pubrick on May 20, 2003, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: mogwai
More like a Unelli to me.

woah, these innuendos are reaching grand proportions, epic even.  :shock:
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on June 09, 2003, 03:19:26 PM
Hitting shelves on September 9th is a new 20th Anniversary Edition of the Brian de Palma bloodfest Scarface, starring Al Pacino as the legendary Tony Montana. With an anamorphic widescreen transfer and new Dolby Digital 5.1 remix, and stay tuned for further specs...
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on June 09, 2003, 03:23:17 PM
That -- is -- so -- sweet!!!
Thanks for the good news, Mac.
Title: Scarface
Post by: godardian on June 09, 2003, 04:57:44 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
That -- is -- so -- sweet!!!
Thanks for the good news, Mac.


I'll definitely be looking forward to Sept. 20.
Title: Scarface
Post by: bonanzataz on June 10, 2003, 01:21:06 AM
this fall is going to rock. senior year, scarface, sleeping beauty, and kill bill.
Title: Scarface
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on June 10, 2003, 06:09:29 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Hitting shelves on September 9th is a new 20th Anniversary Edition of the Brian de Palma bloodfest Scarface, starring Al Pacino as the legendary Tony Montana. With an anamorphic widescreen transfer and new Dolby Digital 5.1 remix, and stay tuned for further specs...


Ah! That made my day! Between the Steve Zissou stop animation announcement and this, I'm creaming my pants! :)

Oh, and that's a fucking great avatar by the way.
Title: Scarface
Post by: godardian on June 10, 2003, 06:25:48 PM
Quote from: punchdrunk23


Oh, and that's a fucking great avatar by the way.


Yeah, I absolutely prefer the Vertigo one to the Matrix ones. It's very cool.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Cecil on June 20, 2003, 11:10:14 PM
just to let you all know that the new scarface dvd will be called "Scarface: Resurrection Edition"
Title: Scarface
Post by: The Anvil on June 22, 2003, 08:50:45 PM
Ok ok, this has been bothering me...  Does anyone, anywhere in the movie, even say the word "scarface"?  At all?  I can't find it!
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on June 22, 2003, 09:06:41 PM
Quote from: Dictatorrabbit
Ok ok, this has been bothering me...  Does anyone, anywhere in the movie, even say the word "scarface"?  At all?  I can't find it!


The only mention I remember is at the beginning, when he is being interrogated, Tony is asked where he got the scar.
Title: Scarface
Post by: The Anvil on June 23, 2003, 12:29:24 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin

The only mention I remember is at the beginning, when he is being interrogated, Tony is asked where he got the scar.


Heh!  Gracias.
Title: Re: what's up with scarface?
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on June 23, 2003, 10:34:45 AM
Quote from: film_gawd
i'm sorry to break this to you guys but scarface is truely one of the worst pictures ever.  i'm completely boggled as to why every wanna be playa/gangsta is so into that movie!  the film as no plot or character development, and at a three hour running time, it damn well should have at least on of those!  plus the acting is terrible, which is unusal for pacino.  maybe its just me and i "don't get it" but just becuase a film is old does not qaulify it to be a classic.  don't let that term just fly around to any film older than fifteen years.


Your study hall is over bitch!  Move along to your next class.....

What blasphemy!
Title: Re: what's up with scarface?
Post by: Pedro on June 23, 2003, 04:18:53 PM
Quote from: film_gawd
i'm sorry to break this to you guys but scarface is truely one of the worst pictures ever.  i'm completely boggled as to why every wanna be playa/gangsta is so into that movie!  the film as no plot or character development, and at a three hour running time, it damn well should have at least on of those!  plus the acting is terrible, which is unusal for pacino.  maybe its just me and i "don't get it" but just becuase a film is old does not qaulify it to be a classic.  don't let that term just fly around to any film older than fifteen years.

Please, elaborate on each of these points.
Title: I hope this isn't true but I've heard about some rescoring..
Post by: Vivian Darkbloom on July 07, 2003, 11:45:14 AM
Can't really remember where I've heard of it but it seems they are planning to change the score to insert some hip-hop music. While I'm not a huge fan of Moroder (and I agree that his disco music maybe caused some people to think the movie was now dated) but I really hope this rumor is bullshit (or at least we'll have the choice to switch between both of them).
The thought that such a great movie could be butchered Miramax-style would REALLY piss me off. (You know, like those Jet Li movies where they think the score sounds "too chinese" for us...)
Anybody has any info on this ?
Title: Scarface
Post by: Cecil on July 07, 2003, 11:46:36 AM
i sure hope those rumours are false. i actually kinda like the moroder score.
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on July 07, 2003, 11:50:45 AM
If those rumours are true, I will personally fund an assassination mission to gun down whoever is responsible. Any volunteers?
Title: Re: I hope this isn't true but I've heard about some rescori
Post by: MacGuffin on July 07, 2003, 11:52:04 AM
Quote from: Vivian Darkbloom
(You know, like those Jet Li movies where they think the score sounds "too chinese" for us...)


Oh, I hate when Miramax does that too.

Quote from: cecil b. demented
i actually kinda like the moroder score.


I'm with you. I couldn't imagine "Scarface" without Moroder's score.
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on July 07, 2003, 12:09:57 PM
This is what I found. Seems like an old story (2002), and don't know how valid it is. Source - Amateur Home Theater:

At first I was glad to hear Universal was finally re-visiting the mediocre Scarface dvd (new transfer, etc.) but I'm now concerned about what the hell they are doing with the soundtrack. Universal is working on a Scarface: Ultimate Edition, but Rolling Stone has mentioned that rapper Jay-Z is executive producing the soundtrack, supervising the music and doing the score for the 2002 release. I don't really think that's such a great idea and I hope the original Giorgio Moroder score is included as well.
Title: Scarface
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 07, 2003, 04:08:48 PM
I didn't like the original score and I sure as hell won't like it if Jay-Z touches it.  What the fuck is going on?  Are they on crack???
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on July 16, 2003, 03:13:22 AM
The Digital Bits has received confirmation from retail sources that Universal will be releasing a new Scarface: Collector's Edition on 9/30, along with a Scarface gift set that includes a re-done version of the original 1932 Scarface.
Title: Scarface
Post by: eward on July 16, 2003, 12:48:11 PM
im not a fan of the moroder score but don't fucking touch it either.  that's just wrong.  wrong wrong wrong.
Title: Scarface
Post by: SHAFTR on July 16, 2003, 01:12:59 PM
Scarface is a movie with many classic scenes...but I don't find the movie to be classic.

I love the soundtrack to Scarface...although
I had played Grand Theft Auto 3 before I saw the movie so I was going nuts when I saw that all the songs that I had liked in GTA3 was in Scarface.  I guess I'm backwards like that.
Title: Scarface
Post by: modage on July 16, 2003, 01:31:59 PM
Quote from: eward
im not a fan of the moroder score but don't fucking touch it either.  that's just wrong.  wrong wrong wrong.


i heard that depalma is doing a anniversary edition and replacing all the guns with walkietalkies.
Title: Scarface
Post by: jokerspath on July 16, 2003, 01:34:12 PM
And all the beers w/ baloons.  And all the nunchuks w/ something not nunchuk-based...

aw
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on July 16, 2003, 01:41:22 PM
...and I heard they're digitally removing all the cocaine, so at the end it just looks like Tony is nodding to sleep on his desk.
Title: Scarface
Post by: markums2k on July 16, 2003, 01:48:33 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: eward
im not a fan of the moroder score but don't fucking touch it either.  that's just wrong.  wrong wrong wrong.


i heard that depalma is doing a anniversary edition and replacing all the guns with walkietalkies.


Also, turns out Pacino was just a place-holder for the original hero of the film, Jabba the Hutt.  Now, with the wonders of CGI, we can finally have the film that the director originally envisioned.

Behold.  Huttface.
Title: Scarface
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 16, 2003, 02:45:26 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
...and I heard they're digitally removing all the cocaine, so at the end it just looks like Tony is nodding to sleep on his desk.


Actually, they're replacing all of the coke with three course meals, so everyone (including Pfeiffer) will be 200 lbs heavier (thank you CGI!)  :-D

P.S. So that means the final shootout scene will have a title card reading: "The Last Supper"
Title: Scarface
Post by: eward on July 16, 2003, 07:57:12 PM
how droll.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Keener on July 16, 2003, 09:36:47 PM
Quote from: Ghoulardi Goon
I didn't like the original score and I sure as hell won't like it if Jay-Z touches it.  What the fuck is going on?  Are they on crack???


Fully agree. The original score is so awful but Jay-Z would be a step in the wrong direction. Just leave Scarface be !!!

Does anyone else feel guilty ? I spent so many countless nights thinking of how even more awesome Scarface would have been with a different score but now God is trying to teach me a lesson. Fork !!!
Title: Scarface
Post by: Cecil on July 16, 2003, 10:26:36 PM
Quote from: Keener
I spent so many countless nights thinking of how even more awesome Scarface would have been with a different score but now God is trying to teach me a lesson. Fork !!!


so this is ALL YOUR FAULT!!
Title: Scarface
Post by: modage on July 16, 2003, 10:36:21 PM
if they did do this, wouldnt it be more like "alt audio channel" instead of replacing the whole thing. just like a commentary track, so it wouldnt really bother anybody in the first place?  plus, have you seen CRIBS?! there are more rappers out there who love this movie than film geeks the world over.  this dvd is for them.  personally, i found it frightening how many of them look up to HIM as a sort of role model for cool.
Title: Scarface
Post by: markums2k on July 17, 2003, 11:06:47 AM
Quote from: themodernage02
if they did do this, wouldnt it be more like "alt audio channel" instead of replacing the whole thing. just like a commentary track, so it wouldnt really bother anybody in the first place?  plus, have you seen CRIBS?! there are more rappers out there who love this movie than film geeks the world over.  this dvd is for them.  personally, i found it frightening how many of them look up to HIM as a sort of role model for cool.


Definitely something to aspire to.  Gimme all your fucking bullets.
Title: Scarface
Post by: modage on July 17, 2003, 11:57:31 PM
Also finally revealed are the full specs for Scarface: Anniversary Edition. This Brian De Palma camp classic also streets on September 30th and will be available in both remastered anamorphic widescreen and full screen versions with Dolby Digital 5.1 surround tracks. Extras include the featurettes "The Rebirth of Scarface," "Acting Scarface" and additional interview footage presented by Def Jam featuring today's hottest music stars commenting on how Scarface has influenced their life and music, plus a comparison between the R-rated and TV versions. Other extras include stills and trailers. Retail is $24.95. Universal will also release a special limited edition box set called the Scarface Deluxe Gift Set, which also includes the complete 1932 version of Scarface and collectible packaging. Retail is $59.95.

(http://members.fortunecity.com/themodernage/box.jpg)
Title: Scarface
Post by: markums2k on July 18, 2003, 08:04:44 AM
Quote from: themodernage02
...additional interview footage presented by Def Jam featuring today's hottest music stars commenting on how Scarface has influenced their life and music...


Are they trying to make us ashamed of buying this?  I couldn't seriously fucking care less how Scarface has influenced da wurld of hip hop.  I'ma 'bout to blow up in dis hizzy.  Feel me?
Title: Scarface
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 18, 2003, 08:41:16 AM
HELL YEEEAH!

Yeah, that feature is making me nauseous.
Title: Scarface
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 18, 2003, 08:50:33 AM
Quote from: mogwai
Stop the crying, you two fuckas.


No can do Mog.  I'll bitch about this turn of events to my dying day.  If you want to be complacent about this DVD set being defiled by Def Jam, that's your perrogative (sp?)...if you think this shit is dope, more power to you.  But I think they could put far more interesting features on this (i.e. commentary by Stone and Pacino) than interviewing rappers about how this movie "changed their lives."  Whatever.  :roll:
Title: Scarface
Post by: Pwaybloe on July 18, 2003, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Ghoulardi Goon
No can do Mog.  I'll bitch about this turn of events to my dying day.  If you want to be complacent about this DVD set being defiled by Def Jam, that's your perrogative (sp?)...if you think this shit is dope, more power to you.  But I think they could put far more interesting features on this (i.e. commentary by Stone and Pacino) than interviewing rappers about how this movie "changed their lives."  Whatever.  :roll:


Who do you think is pushing to get this movie released?  It sure ain't Criterion.  I wouldn't doubt Def Jam bankrolled this re-release, anyway.
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on July 18, 2003, 09:28:22 AM
"I... uh, like remember watching Scarface... well, I didn't really watch it, but I heard he does coke and kills people and shit.... and then I did a drive-by... yeah, this movie means a lot to me and stuff..."




I can see it now. 20 minutes of this. Poor DePalma, this is gonna go a long way backwards in his argument against the feminists and anti-violence groups that shit all over his films.
Title: Scarface
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 18, 2003, 09:45:16 AM
Indeed. 'nough said.
Title: Scarface
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 18, 2003, 10:02:02 AM
Sure Mog.  Okay.  We don't love movies.  Just as you don't get a kick out of being an Anti-Goon.  :wink:
Title: Scarface
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 18, 2003, 10:04:14 AM
Quote from: Pawbloe
Quote from: Ghoulardi Goon
No can do Mog.  I'll bitch about this turn of events to my dying day.  If you want to be complacent about this DVD set being defiled by Def Jam, that's your perrogative (sp?)...if you think this shit is dope, more power to you.  But I think they could put far more interesting features on this (i.e. commentary by Stone and Pacino) than interviewing rappers about how this movie "changed their lives."  Whatever.  :roll:


Who do you think is pushing to get this movie released?  It sure ain't Criterion.  I wouldn't doubt Def Jam bankrolled this re-release, anyway.


Well maybe they shouldn't bankroll this movie.  I'd much rather wait a few years until someone would do the set justice.  

And if Criterion would fund Armageddon, but not Scarface, well then.....fuck them too.
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on July 18, 2003, 10:11:30 AM
Quote from: mogwai
You guys don't love movies, you're just here to wind people up.


Oh no, I love Scarface. I don't wanna wind anybody up over this. It's ME that's wound up. This is like the Speilberg interview on Eyes Wide Shut. For me, it pock-marks the disc.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Pubrick on July 18, 2003, 10:17:06 AM
yeah, mog, shit. the truth is the hip hop culture, is the biggest advocates of Scarface appreciation. Def Jam may well be pushing this new version, (which u don't hav to purchase if u don't want to u consumer fucko, the movie's what u like not the extras, "more to eat, feed me more, baby needs more fat"). the one thing all this talk is proving is that love of movies can't bring ppl together.

it's like "oh no! they like this movie and hav more money than me and are tainting my experience of what only ppl like me can appreciate!" fuckin narrow minded white boys. mogski here is as white and foreign as they come and if he has no problem with rappers liking the movie, and adding sumthing to the dvd (which DePalma and Pacino obviously don't care enuff about otherwise they'd so sumthin themselves), then it is clearly an issue of hip-hop appreciation and lack of open mindedness.

now shut up before i make u look even more stupid. and if u do buy the dvd COS U JUST CAN'T HELP URSELF, just pretend the interviews aren't there and don't click on them.
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on July 18, 2003, 10:21:42 AM
Oh man, it was never a question of not buying the dvd. Never never never. I'm very excited.


I'm just a little confused... I didn't get the xixax memo where I'm not allowed to not like a special feature of the dvd. I will submit to your opinion, boss.

Seriously though, you don't find it odd that people can see Tony Montana as a hero figure? That doesn't slightly scare you? He's a bad man, and he gets too power mad, and he gets punished. It's like these guys click the movie off before the last scene.
Title: Scarface
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 18, 2003, 10:24:12 AM
Quote from: P
yeah, mog, shit. the truth is the hip hop culture, is the biggest advocates of Scarface appreciation. Def Jam may well be pushing this new version, (which u don't hav to purchase if u don't want to u consumer fucko, the movie's what u like not the extras, "more to eat, feed me more, baby needs more fat"). the one thing all this talk is proving is that love of movies can't bring ppl together.

it's like "oh no! they like this movie and hav more money than me and are tainting my experience of what only ppl like me can appreciate!" fuckin narrow minded white boys. mogski here is as white and foreign as they come and if he has no problem with rappers liking the movie, and adding sumthing to the dvd (which DePalma and Pacino obviously don't care enuff about otherwise they'd so sumthin themselves), then it is clearly an issue of hip-hop appreciation and lack of open mindedness.

now shut up before i make u look even more stupid. and if u don't buy the dvd COS U JUST CAN'T HELP URSELF, just pretend the interviews aren't there and don't click on them.


First off P, I appreciate hip-hop.  I have no qualms about it; but Scarface is one of my favorite movies and when I imagined them rereleasing it in a special set, having rappers comment on it wasn't what I had envisioned.  I think it'd be much more interesting to have historical commentary on this film (i.e. interview people this movie was based on, etc), as well as Pacino and DePalma's take on it.  But since they obviously don't care enough about one of their best known movies to comment on it, I'll just have to accept that.  And I'm far from being close-minded, you prick.  And while you may think it's "an issue of hip-hop appreciation and lack of open mindedness", I see that statement as a convenient way of shitting on people who happen to have opinions that differ from yours. Why don't you open up your mind and see different viewpoints.  I didn't insult Mog for liking the set.  I just expressed my displeasure at the whole arrangement.  

Your turn.  :wink:

P.S.: I didn't get the memo either.  I guess you have to be in the clique.
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on July 18, 2003, 10:26:45 AM
Oh... I actually am a narrow minded white kid who hates rap. P got me right on the money.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Pubrick on July 18, 2003, 10:31:26 AM
Quote from: SoNowThen
Seriously though, you don't find it odd that people can see Tony Montana as a hero figure? That doesn't slightly scare you? He's a bad man, and he gets too power mad, and he gets punished. It's like these guys click the movie off before the last scene.

is ur idea of hip hop limited to Ja Rule, Ashanti and whatever other bullshit makes the pop charts?

i think what they (for example Dr Dre) identify with is that in america u can gain success by being completely immoral, so when sumone takes a lot of them seriously when they're only pretending* to be gangstas and are outraged by that, it's only in passive recognition of what's really happening in the streets. the american dream of wealth is steeped in disreputable tactics and in many cases murder, that's the truth.

*many like for instance Freddie Foxxx are the real deal, and are not concerned with popular acceptance
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on July 18, 2003, 10:41:55 AM
Yep, I agree with you 100% there. That's a good point. I didn't really consider that, and now that you mention it, it makes more sense to me.

Oh, also, I do know who Dre is, but I've never heard of Ja Rule or Ashtani. I make a concerted effort to not listen to the radio, or read pop magazines.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Pubrick on July 18, 2003, 10:47:03 AM
cool so we're done then.

it's been a pleasure fighting with u.  :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on July 18, 2003, 10:48:45 AM
Hehehe. It wasn't a fight, was it? I thought it was a momentary miscommunication. Now, if some cock came on here and started shit-talking Scarface, saying it isn't a good movie... well, THEN we'd see a fight!
Title: Scarface
Post by: markums2k on July 18, 2003, 01:27:05 PM
Well, if black people get Scarface, then I'm going to bankroll a re-release of Carlito's Way.  So there.  And I'll have Bill Gates do an interview about how the movie influenced him.
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on July 18, 2003, 01:37:20 PM
actually, I was told by the same rap-loving buddy who gushed about Scarface, that hip-hop culture digs Carlito just as much. They always wanna say the "... die big time" line.

But we do need a re-release of that, too.
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on July 18, 2003, 01:38:50 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
But we do need a re-release of that [Carlito's Way], too.


Seventh post down:
http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1613&start=30
Title: Scarface
Post by: Keener on July 18, 2003, 04:09:41 PM
It's a mixed blessing. In one hand, we're getting a new Scarface DVD. On the other hand, it's being marketted towards fans of rap. What we need is a rerelease of the A Clockwork Orange DVD with rapists talking about how much the movie means to them and how they can totally relate with the main character and his troubles. And the mafia talking about how they liked to homage The Godfather in a hit or two.

Darn MTV land. Does anyone know what De Palma thinks and will Oliver Stone have any segments on it ?
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on July 18, 2003, 04:23:55 PM
Quote from: Keener
It's a mixed blessing. In one hand, we're getting a new Scarface DVD. On the other hand, it's being marketted towards fans of rap. What we need is a rerelease of the A Clockwork Orange DVD with rapists talking about how much the movie means to them and how they can totally relate with the main character and his troubles. And the mafia talking about how they liked to homage The Godfather in a hit or two.

Darn MTV land. Does anyone know what De Palma thinks and will Oliver Stone have any segments on it ?


So perfect. Yes. I was thinking the same thing. Thank you for posting that. Although, P did make a good point, and if rappers really love the movie for what he said, then I think it's a great reason, but still... I have strong doubts that all such folks are so level-headed. I'm not sure if this thing is geared towards fans of rap, but if it is, it would seem quite a strange slant, considering there are many many non-rap fans who also love the flick.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Pubrick on July 18, 2003, 08:48:55 PM
Quote from: Keener
It's a mixed blessing. In one hand, we're getting a new Scarface DVD. On the other hand, it's being marketted towards fans of rap. What we need is a rerelease of the A Clockwork Orange DVD with rapists talking about how much the movie means to them and how they can totally relate with the main character and his troubles. And the mafia talking about how they liked to homage The Godfather in a hit or two.

wow u really hate rap.

does scarface hav any rappers in it? is it about hip hop?

do u realise how stupid and goddamn idiotic ur comparison to rapists and real criminals is?

i wonder if anyone here really knows wtf the entertainment industry is.
Title: Scarface
Post by: markums2k on July 19, 2003, 01:24:42 AM
Quote from: P

i wonder if anyone here really knows wtf the entertainment industry is.


I do!  It's an on-going disappointment.
Title: Scarface
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 19, 2003, 11:34:40 AM
Quote from: Keener
It's a mixed blessing. In one hand, we're getting a new Scarface DVD. On the other hand, it's being marketted towards fans of rap. What we need is a rerelease of the A Clockwork Orange DVD with rapists talking about how much the movie means to them and how they can totally relate with the main character and his troubles. And the mafia talking about how they liked to homage The Godfather in a hit or two.

Darn MTV land. Does anyone know what De Palma thinks and will Oliver Stone have any segments on it ?


Clearly (as was posted earlier) De Palma doesn't give a flying fuck.  And we could only be so fortunate as to have a Stone seg in the set.  :(
Title: Scarface
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 19, 2003, 11:53:24 AM
Uh, no mog.  If he gave a fuck he'd have included that commentary (which I do have by the way) on the new special edition. ;)
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on July 19, 2003, 12:06:41 PM
Quote from: mogwai
I don't think it there's a existing commentary, I tried find any details about a commentary on the laserdisc version without any results. If there exists one I think it's a matter of copyrights.


Nope. My laserdisc didn't have a commentary track. Same extras as the DVD. I believe De Palma hasn't done a commentary track for any of his films.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Vivian Darkbloom on July 20, 2003, 11:10:27 AM
Has anybody else seen the wonderful artwork for the Hawk's version they're giving in the boxset ? Everything about it is just so fucking hilarious...
(http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/Covers/scarface1932_r1pack.jpg)
Watch for the wonderful tagline and the Darkman ripoff in the title. I guess this is the Tony Hawk version, not the Howard... What's next ? A Metropolis reissue with colors and a Moroder score ? (oops,they've done that already...) I just wish some companies didn't think DVD buyers were morons.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Sigur Rós on July 20, 2003, 01:56:44 PM
Quote from: mogwai
Anyone seen this one?

(http://posters.imdb.com/posters/c/captainscarfacehalf.jpg)


No, but yesterday I nearly ordered the porn-version of Scarface. I thought it was the real deal, and only 50 DkKr. But 'luckely' I found out in time!
Title: Scarface
Post by: phil marlowe on July 20, 2003, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: Sigur Rós
No, but yesterday I nearly ordered the porn-version of Scarface. I thought it was the real deal, and only 50 DkKr. But 'luckely' I found out in time!

if i hadn't spent all my money on this great great new power suply i would most defently be getting this.

how can you even afford to save 50 kr instead of getting  this beautiful piece of adult culture?
Title: Scarface
Post by: Ravi on July 22, 2003, 11:48:55 AM
Quote from: Vivian Darkbloom
Has anybody else seen the wonderful artwork for the Hawk's version they're giving in the boxset ? Everything about it is just so fucking hilarious...
(http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/Covers/scarface1932_r1pack.jpg)
Watch for the wonderful tagline and the Darkman ripoff in the title. I guess this is the Tony Hawk version, not the Howard... What's next ? A Metropolis reissue with colors and a Moroder score ? (oops,they've done that already...) I just wish some companies didn't think DVD buyers were morons.


Looks like a made-for-TV remake on TNT or something.
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on July 22, 2003, 06:14:35 PM
Deluxe Gift set cover:

(http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx/covers3/scarfacegiftdvd.jpg)
Title: Scarface
Post by: modage on August 08, 2003, 12:07:30 PM
i adamantly refuse to have any dvd on my shelf that contains the special feature entitled "Def Jam Presents: Origins of a Hip-Hop Classic".  maybe thats just me.
Title: Scarface
Post by: ***beady*** on August 08, 2003, 12:13:41 PM
ummm.... maybe, maybe not.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Pwaybloe on August 08, 2003, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
i adamantly refuse to have any dvd on my shelf that contains the special feature entitled "Def Jam Presents: Origins of a Hip-Hop Classic".  maybe thats just me.


Uh Oh...

(http://apartment42.com/images/ijcave.jpg)
Title: Scarface
Post by: Gold Trumpet on August 08, 2003, 02:01:45 PM
I'm pumped......hip hop guys have to be creaming pants after seeing that cover, but it all looks expensive. How expensive? (I also may get redirected because of not looking at all previous pages, but oh well)

~rougerum
Title: Scarface
Post by: modage on August 08, 2003, 04:11:17 PM
Quote from: mogwai
not again... i thought you were hip hop themodernrage03.


for anyone interested in that special feature you might also be interested to learn...

FLAVA-FUL DISCS OF THE WEEK
Source: Entertainment Weekly

LAUGH TRACK DVDS. Come October, York Entertainment will rerelease old films (like Bruce Lee's Chinese Connection) redubbed and rescored to appeal to an audience raised on hip-hop and Def Comedy Jam.

i cant wait.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Pubrick on August 08, 2003, 08:51:45 PM
whatever.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Ravi on August 08, 2003, 09:17:23 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: mogwai
not again... i thought you were hip hop themodernrage03.


for anyone interested in that special feature you might also be interested to learn...

FLAVA-FUL DISCS OF THE WEEK
Source: Entertainment Weekly

LAUGH TRACK DVDS. Come October, York Entertainment will rerelease old films (like Bruce Lee's Chinese Connection) redubbed and rescored to appeal to an audience raised on hip-hop and Def Comedy Jam.

i cant wait.


This is a joke, right?  It sounds too ridiculous to be true.

Maybe they'll release a few Busta Keaton DVDs.
Title: Scarface
Post by: modage on August 08, 2003, 09:23:02 PM
Quote from: Ravi
This is a joke, right?  It sounds too ridiculous to be true.


no, its true. it was in todays Entertainment Weekly.  do you see the lengths they are going to, to market to an "urban audience"?
Title: Scarface
Post by: Ravi on August 08, 2003, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: Ravi
This is a joke, right?  It sounds too ridiculous to be true.


no, its true. it was in todays Entertainment Weekly.  do you see the lengths they are going to, to market to an "urban audience"?


But why, though?  Scarface didn't have a hip-hop soundtrack, but every rapper on Cribs has the DVD and several posters from it.  I could swear that I've read/heard interviews with famous black people in which they say that kung fu movies were extremely popular with black audiences in the 1970s.
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on September 02, 2003, 06:40:54 PM
De Palma's Scarface Coming Back to Theaters
Source: Universal Studios Home Video, Focus Features  

In celebration of its 20th anniversary, Brian De Palma's searing underworld epic Scarface will return to theaters in limited engagements on September 19th, it was announced today by Universal Pictures and Focus Features. Al Pacino stars in the film, which stunned audiences upon its debut with its uncompromising and visceral depiction of the American immigrant experience. These special theatrical engagements will feature new 35mm prints struck from restored film elements, and a newly remixed digital soundtrack. A major premiere will be held in New York to kick-off the theatrical run.

"All of us at Universal are tremendously excited about this opportunity for audiences to experience 'Scarface' on the big screen," said Craig Kornblau, president of Universal Studios Home Video, which supervised the restoration of the film. "Unlike most films, 'Scarface' has gained in interest and influence over the last 20 years, and its fervent fan base continues to grow. This is truly an event."

Focus Features, the specialty film unit of Universal Pictures, will distribute Scarface in these theatrical engagements.

Originally released by Universal Pictures in 1983, the film was hailed for Al Pacino's towering performance as Cuban immigrant Tony Montana, and for Brian De Palma's masterful direction. Over the years, as the film found continued exposure on television and home video, it developed a devoted following in the hip-hop and urban music community, resulting in a widespread influence on music, fashion, language, attitude and ambition. But many of its most devoted fans have never experienced the film in its original form or presentation, and the 20th anniversary of Scarface allows them this unique opportunity and more.

In bringing the film back to its full theatrical power, producer Martin Bregman and original film editor Jerry Greenberg worked tirelessly to fully restore the picture. "This new re-mastered print reaches out and grabs you in a very visceral way," says producer Martin Bregman. "The digital sound on the new release of 'Scarface' is incredible and gives new life to Tony Montana's iconic dialogue, and to the lifestyle he embodies and continues to inspire today. Our greatest hope is that a new generation will be acquainted with this powerful epic."

The theatrical engagements of Scarface will take place in New York, Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, Washington D.C., Detroit, Dallas, Miami and San Francisco. "The response from theatre owners has been immediate. Everyone is excited to see Tony Montana's rise to the top and fall to the bottom all over again," says Focus Features distribution head Jack Foley. "There's a new generation of 'Scarface' fans who want to see this print on a big screen."

Following the theatrical engagements, a home entertainment moratorium will be lifted as the "'Scarface' Two-Disc Anniversary Edition" and the "'Scarface' Deluxe Gift Set" DVD roll out on September 30th.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Banky on September 02, 2003, 06:52:11 PM
i bet a lot of rappers havent even seen the movie they just have the posters up because everyone else does.
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on September 04, 2003, 10:53:13 PM
Have fun, you cockroaches:

http://www.electricartists.com/scarface/soundboard.html
Title: Scarface
Post by: Pedro on September 05, 2003, 12:23:24 AM
I just wish that a real orchestra would record the score...i hate the whole elctronic thing....the music is great, but the synthesizers make it suck.  It's the only thing about the film i don't like.
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on September 17, 2003, 09:50:34 AM
The healing of 'Scarface'
Twenty years ago, critics thrashed Brian De Palma's immigrant saga. Now it's embraced by hip-hop fans. (Los Angeles Times)

When "Scarface" came out 20 years ago, Brian De Palma's outlaw immigrant saga was greeted with scathing reviews ("one of the largest empty vessels to float on an ocean of celluloid," wrote the Los Angeles Times' Sheila Benson) and lukewarm box office. The picture was considered one of the lesser lights in the director's canon of works, which included "Carrie," "Blow Out" and "Dressed to Kill."

It's all the more surprising, therefore, that, in the intervening decades, "Scarface" has emerged as an iconic film on the urban landscape, particularly in the hip-hop community. So big is its afterlife that Universal Pictures and its specialty unit Focus Features are re-releasing the film in movie theaters in Los Angeles and nine other cities on Friday. The move is timed to the Sept. 30 release of a new, digitally re-mastered DVD that has drawn advance orders of more than 2 million units — surpassing every title in the studio's library, which encompasses "Jaws," "Jurassic Park," "Back to the Future" and "E.T."
 
Exaggerated, almost operatic in feel, the story follows Tony Montana (Al Pacino), a former prisoner who arrives in Miami in 1980 as part of the Cuban boat lift. Unable to make it legitimately, he and his friend Manny (Steven Bauer) start selling drugs, becoming kingpins in the cocaine trade. The search for respect and power ends tragically, derailed by Scarface's enemies and growing paranoia.

The film's anti-establishment rags-to-riches story and unsentimental message struck a chord with a young audience, the filmmakers and social critics say. Many have seen it dozens of times and can recite Oliver Stone's dialogue ("Say goodnight to the bad guy," "Say 'ello to my little friend," "I always tell the truth, even when I lie") verbatim.

"Montana is an antihero with whom contemporary kids can identify," says De Palma, who, nevertheless, shot down a proposal to replace Giorgio Moroder's period music with an original hip-hop soundtrack. "He's about greed, power and self-destruction in the land of opportunity, capitalism unfettered by morality, which they see all around them. The movie has become the 'On the Waterfront' of this generation — and Pacino is their [Marlon] Brando."

References abound. The Los Angeles Lakers' Shaquille O'Neal called his clothing line "The World is Mine," a play on one of the film's best-known lines. Host George Lopez impersonated the enunciation-challenged Montana at the 2003 Latin Grammy Awards. Blink 182, a pop-punk band, took its name from the number of times that Pacino's character uttered a certain curse word. And the Geto Boys' Brad Jordon, who adopted the handle "Scarface," is featured on a CD of songs inspired by the movie (e.g. Notorious B.I.G.'s "Ten Crack Commandments," NWA's "Dope Man," Jay-Z's "Streets Is Watching" and Ice Cube's "A Bird in the Hand") released Tuesday by Def Jam Records.

Jenna Coley, 22, tends bar at a Detroit club where the ripples of the movie are strong. For drug dealers, Montana is a role model, she says, and, for the rest, he's a source of hope. "Though we were young when it came out, everyone I know has bought the cassette or taped it on video," she says. "While 'The Godfather' is about family, being born to that life, 'Scarface' is more of today. Tony created something on his own and is all about loyalty and honor — Mafia ethics. It's one of our two or three favorite films, a portrait of the American dream."

Whether the video hit, which also features memorable performances by a young Michelle Pfeiffer and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, would hold up on the big screen was in question, however. Not until July, when screenings were held in New York and Los Angeles, were the doubts put to rest. The response from a primarily young recruited audience, 50% white, 25% Latino and 25% African American, far exceeded expectations. In particular, fans lapped up scenes of the cartoonish protagonist living the high life — in every way, such as watching a white-nosed Montana slump into a pile of his powder, which was both tragic and comic relief.

"Scarface" clearly withstood the test of time, observes Craig Kornblau, president of Universal's home video division. "People [at the screening] were hooting and hollering, clapping and screaming — and half of them, we learned afterward in the focus group, had never seen it before in a theater."

Protests in Miami

Though he used the same title as the 1932 Howard Hawks' gangster film, De Palma actually visualized "Scarface" as John Huston's "Treasure of Sierra Madre" with cocaine substituted for gold. It got off to an inauspicious start: The violent and expletive-filled epic was greeted with protests and derision by Miami's Cuban community, which disliked its portrayal, and given an "X" rating (since replaced by the NC-17) by the Motion Picture Assn. of America's rating board. Bringing in three psychiatrists and a narcotics squad officer to testify in their behalf, the filmmakers eventually landed the more commercial "R."

"We started out to make an anti-drug film about the rise and fall of an American businessman," producer Martin Bregman recalls. "Hollywood, where so many executives had a dish of white stuff at the entrance to their homes, either didn't understand it or hated that we did it."

That theme, however, struck a chord with rappers such as Eminem and Jay-Z, whose lyrics are laced with drug allusions. Sean "P. Diddy" Combs ("I'll Be Missing You") professes to have seen the movie 63 times. With its graphic portrayal of street life and the pitfalls of success, he says, it's a cautionary tale for those on the margins who suddenly strike it rich. Though P. Diddy's roots are middle-class, he relates to the notion of excess. Montana violated the maxim "Don't get high on your own supply" and was brought down by his arrogance.

"Statistically, young blacks coming up in the '80s wound up dead or in jail," he said in a DVD documentary chronicling the rise of the film in the hip-hop arena. "I was one of those cats that was scared straight."

For the last five years, USC professor Todd Boyd has devoted a lecture to the film in his course on hip-hop culture. Gangsta rap, which comprises the bulk of all hip-hop sales, took off commercially in the 1990s, he says. Artists such as the late Notorious B.I.G., Dr. Dre and the late Tupac Shakur culled crime imagery from films such as "The Godfather," "King of New York" and "Scarface," making it specific to their reality.

" 'Scarface' did everything so big," Boyd says. "I know people who modeled their weddings after his. And anyone on the bottom of the totem pole wanted to emulate Montana smoking that cigar in his sunken tub — a sign of success and an in-your-face [attitude] embodied in hip-hop.

"If you are a young black or Latino male who came of age at that time, 'Scarface' was a central component in developing your identity," he asserts.

Ferdinando Scarfiotti's hard-edged, pastel-colored veneer, moreover, paved the way for TV shows such as Michael Mann's "Miami Vice," the popular video game "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" and a host of MTV fare. In her "After the Storm" video, R&B singer Monica pays homage to a scene in which Pfeiffer, a mobster's girlfriend, descends dramatically in an elevator.

"I was obsessed with the visual metaphor, taking acrylic vibrance to the level of Ludwig, the mad king of Bulgaria," De Palma says. "Megalomania caused Tony to remake the environment a little better than God did. He created a deranged Playboy mansion — and cocaine made things even more delusional. Visiting Miami two years ago, I found that [Scarfiotti's] design re-created in South Beach. Those art deco buildings, once Jewish old-age homes, had become Scarfaceville."

Eager to contribute to the phenomenon, Island Def Jam chairman Lyor Cohen met with De Palma, suggesting that his artists compose a soundtrack, with or without Moroder.

Though Bregman and even Pacino made the case for the proposal, the director was aghast.

"They said it would help promotion, presenting the film in a different way," the director says. "But Giorgio's music was true to the period, I argued — and no one changes the scores on movies by Marty Scorsese, John Ford, David Lean. If this is the 'masterpiece' you say, leave it alone. I fought them tooth and nail and was the odd man out, not an unusual place for me. I have final cut, so that stopped them dead."

Universal's Kornblau hasn't given up on the thought of creating a "reinvigorated and more relevant soundtrack," however. Nor has Kevin Liles, president of Def Jam/Def Soul Records. "Hip-hop, as Chuck D says, is the 'CNN of the ghetto,' " Liles points out. "Incorporating it into a classic like this would convey the current reality. The message, unfortunately, is as relevant today as when the movie emerged. I'll be the first up to bat to rescore the film, which touched such a nerve in the 'hood. Though Montana is Latino, all those kids identify with his job in the burger shop, idolizing guys with the big Benz and flashy women. Music is the soul of any movie, and a new soundtrack would increase its power."

Some critics have revised their original view of the film. " 'Scarface' is something else — an authentic black comedy with red for blood, white for cocaine and that overall smeared look so true to Miami," David Thomson wrote in his new Biographical Dictionary of Film.

"Scarface" has resonated the most of his 32 films, which include "Serpico" and "Dog Day Afternoon," Bregman maintains. Contemplating the 180-degree turnaround, he concedes, brings a smile to his face. "I speak at schools," the producer says. "Though we never planned on it, the movie has become the bible of the hip-hop world."
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on September 17, 2003, 10:02:28 AM
Quote
Jenna Coley, 22, tends bar at a Detroit club where the ripples of the movie are strong. For drug dealers, Montana is a role model, she says, and, for the rest, he's a source of hope. "Though we were young when it came out, everyone I know has bought the cassette or taped it on video," she says. "While 'The Godfather' is about family, being born to that life, 'Scarface' is more of today. Tony created something on his own and is all about loyalty and honor — Mafia ethics. It's one of our two or three favorite films, a portrait of the American dream."


Does this scare anybody else? Do people not get that it's the perversion of the American dream? That ignorance and paranoia and excess cause Tony to fall hard? Do they only watch the first half? A "role model"? A "source of hope"? What the fuck is wrong with people? Yes, it's a great, entertaining movie, but for fucks sakes...

What's the point of creating art if people are going to misinterpret you so badly in order to justify their own vices and perversions?

Cheers to DePalma for preserving his soundtrack and FUCK YOU ALL who wanted it changed. Disgusting.
Title: Scarface
Post by: coffeebeetle on September 17, 2003, 10:14:21 AM
I agree with an earlier post that said an unsynthesized score would've been cooler.  Synthesizers just don't give the film the epic feel that the celuloid successfully conveys.  And kudos to SoNowThen...it is pathetic that people idolize Tony, when it's clear that he's a victim of his own greed and overblown ego.  And a rap score wouldn't make the film any better than it already is.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Cecil on September 17, 2003, 07:47:16 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
Does this scare anybody else? Do people not get that it's the perversion of the American dream? That ignorance and paranoia and excess cause Tony to fall hard? Do they only watch the first half? A "role model"? A "source of hope"? What the fuck is wrong with people? Yes, it's a great, entertaining movie, but for fucks sakes...

What's the point of creating art if people are going to misinterpret you so badly in order to justify their own vices and perversions?


i know, i know...
Title: Scarface
Post by: Ravi on September 17, 2003, 09:53:48 PM
Quote from: Cecil B. Demented
Quote from: SoNowThen
Does this scare anybody else? Do people not get that it's the perversion of the American dream? That ignorance and paranoia and excess cause Tony to fall hard? Do they only watch the first half? A "role model"? A "source of hope"? What the fuck is wrong with people? Yes, it's a great, entertaining movie, but for fucks sakes...

What's the point of creating art if people are going to misinterpret you so badly in order to justify their own vices and perversions?


i know, i know...


Is anyone else sort of appalled at those Scarface t-shirts?  Kids wear them like its cool to be Tony Montana.  It is one thing to admire the film because it shows his self-destruction.  It is another thing to admire that he was into crime and drugs.  :roll:
Title: Scarface
Post by: coffeebeetle on September 17, 2003, 10:50:04 PM
Goddammit I want some ravioli right now but i'm too stoned to drive.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Pedro on September 18, 2003, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: coffeebeetle25
Goddammit I want some ravioli right now but i'm too stoned to drive.

Contribute to this thread:
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Title: Scarface
Post by: Ghostboy on September 18, 2003, 12:48:37 AM
I've never seen Scarface, so this big screen release will be a nice way to experience it. In fact, I'm seeing it in exactly nine hours and seven minutes. Hope I don't stay up too late tonight.
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on September 18, 2003, 09:17:40 AM
Quote from: Ghostboy
I've never seen Scarface, so this big screen release will be a nice way to experience it. In fact, I'm seeing it in exactly nine hours and seven minutes. Hope I don't stay up too late tonight.


Make sure you don't get drive-by'd at the theatre, when all those drug dealers and hoodlums come to see their idol.


Seriously though, ENJOY!!! You're gonna love it! Lucky lucky lucky. It's not coming to any theatre near here.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Ravi on September 18, 2003, 12:35:17 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy
I've never seen Scarface, so this big screen release will be a nice way to experience it. In fact, I'm seeing it in exactly nine hours and seven minutes. Hope I don't stay up too late tonight.


You see all these movies before anyone here.  Were you sent from the future to kill JJ and Pantalones?

I saw Scarface a long time ago.  I remember thinking it was pretty cheesy, no doubt due to the Moroder score, but I'm still going to see it on the big screen.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Ghostboy on September 18, 2003, 01:07:06 PM
I just got back from seeing it. Nice operatic way to start the day. It was really enjoyable, and I actually dug the score. I'd be interested in hearing it with that hip hop score, just because it would be an interesting experiment, but I'm REALLY glad the Moroder's stuff is still in place. I'm not a fan of synth music, but it works really well in this case.
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on September 26, 2003, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: stuart braithwaite
dvd review here (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?threadid=160151)


"Creating Scarface" Featurette: There are also a few surprises, such as a brief mention of Steven Spielberg’s contribution to Scarface.


This will be the first DVD extra I'm going to watch when I get my copy.
Title: Scarface
Post by: eward on September 26, 2003, 10:45:10 PM
........what did spielberg do?

i think it's funny, given that spielberg doesn't (and i don't think he would ever want to) make movies like that, yet he helped out in the cutting of a violent scene in taxi driver, and now this, and some other things that i can't remember.....

ahh, spielberg, what a guy.  god bless him.  i don't think i'd ever want him to attempt a movie like this though.  he's great at what he does and that's that.  how did i get on a spielberg rant in the scarface forum?  hmmmm.
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on September 26, 2003, 11:05:22 PM
Quote from: eward
i think it's funny, given that spielberg doesn't (and i don't think he would ever want to) make movies like that, yet he helped out in the cutting of a violent scene in taxi driver, and now this, and some other things that i can't remember.....


And yet there were complaints that the first half hour of "Saving Private Ryan" was too violent.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 27, 2003, 10:58:14 AM
Saving Private Ryan was still as heartfelt as most of his other films. Scarface is prolly the furthest a film can be in that department.

~rougerum
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on September 27, 2003, 11:00:58 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Saving Private Ryan was still as heartfelt as most of his other films. Scarface is prolly the furthest a film can be in that department.

~rougerum


Not talking about the movies as a whole. eward stated that Spielberg had a hand in cutting out violent scenes in other movies, while the opening "Pvt. Ryan" was considered violent enough that it should have received an NC-17.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 27, 2003, 11:11:16 AM
Quote from: eward
i think it's funny, given that spielberg doesn't (and i don't think he would ever want to) make movies like that, yet he helped out in the cutting of a violent scene in taxi driver, and now this, and some other things that i can't remember.....


Hard to say whether he meant it by physical violence alone or moral violence along with it. He more separated the difference between Speilberg and these films without saying exactly how.

~rougerum
Title: Scarface
Post by: eward on September 27, 2003, 11:21:48 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Quote from: eward
i think it's funny, given that spielberg doesn't (and i don't think he would ever want to) make movies like that, yet he helped out in the cutting of a violent scene in taxi driver, and now this, and some other things that i can't remember.....


Hard to say whether he meant it by physical violence alone or moral violence along with it. He more separated the difference between Speilberg and these films without saying exactly how.

~rougerum


i meant both, really.

and i didn't mean the cutting out of violent scenes, i meant the cutting together, scorsese mentions this on the taxi driver doc......
Title: Scarface
Post by: Pozer on September 28, 2003, 10:41:59 PM
saw it today on the big screen
man oh man is it so much better with a packed audience at the Cinerama Dome
so cool with all the laughter and applause
Great Sunday
Bloody Sunday, but a great one nevertheless
Title: Scarface
Post by: Banky on September 28, 2003, 10:53:34 PM
speaking of...................................



http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/playas_guide_to_scarface/series.jhtml




the dumbest fucking thing ever on tv
Title: Scarface
Post by: eward on September 28, 2003, 11:01:17 PM
i am so watching that
Title: It's time folks!
Post by: freakerdude on September 30, 2003, 05:20:27 AM
OK, you all are wired up b/c Jay Z did something or other but it sounds like the original electronic Moroder score is intact. Yes, it is electronica but adds to the eerie feeling surrrounding the movie. If they did change it, hopefully it wasn't too drastic.

So who's going out to get it today? I'm going to get mine on the net for about $15 unless Best Buy has a good price. List is $26.95, I believe. Also, is anyone buying the "Big Pimpin' Box Set" with the original movie? Looks like a nice place to  stash some blunts......

I agree, the whole VH1 tie in is a bunch of crap I tell ya.........if it's not Scottish.....IT'S CRRRAP!!! Fo shizzle my continuous drizzle.
Title: Re: It's time folks!
Post by: MacGuffin on September 30, 2003, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from: freakerdude
Also, is anyone buying the "Big Pimpin' Box Set" with the original movie?


Took going to 6 different stores, but I finally got it. Went to Best Buy just after they opened, around 10:10, and they were already sold out. Clerk said they had people lined up before 9. Because of that, the line for the Rain Checks extended the length of the store (full of hip-hoppers and gangtas). Went to another Best Buy, 2 Targets and a Circuit City, but finally found it some the same cheap price as Best Buy ($45) at Tower Records. But it was so worth the hunt.
Title: Re: It's time folks!
Post by: SHAFTR on September 30, 2003, 02:14:58 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: freakerdude
Also, is anyone buying the "Big Pimpin' Box Set" with the original movie?


Took going to 6 different stores, but I finally got it. Went to Best Buy just after they opened, around 10:10, and they were already sold out. Clerk said they had people lined up before 9. Because of that, the line for the Rain Checks extended the length of the store (full of hip-hoppers and gangtas). Went to another Best Buy, 2 Targets and a Circuit City, but finally found it some the same cheap price as Best Buy ($45) at Tower Records. But it was so worth the hunt.


I'm tempted to get the box set so I could see the Hawks version.
Title: Re: It's time folks!
Post by: NEON MERCURY on September 30, 2003, 07:50:44 PM
Quote from: SHAFTR
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: freakerdude
Also, is anyone buying the "Big Pimpin' Box Set" with the original movie?


Took going to 6 different stores, but I finally got it. Went to Best Buy just after they opened, around 10:10, and they were already sold out. Clerk said they had people lined up before 9. Because of that, the line for the Rain Checks extended the length of the store (full of hip-hoppers and gangtas). Went to another Best Buy, 2 Targets and a Circuit City, but finally found it some the same cheap price as Best Buy ($45) at Tower Records. But it was so worth the hunt.


I'm tempted to get the box set so I could see the Hawks version.



..LoL...whats the "big pimpin' " box set?>>>>>>>....or did i miss somethign ont htis thread..earlier..
Title: Re: It's time folks!
Post by: freakerdude on October 01, 2003, 01:57:44 AM
Quote from: NEON MERCURY
whats the "big pimpin' " box set?>>>>>>>....or did i miss somethign ont htis thread..earlier..

That is what I dubbed the box set that comes with the original movie from 1932. I just thought it was funny how this is being tied in to rap and nick'd it the Big Pimpin' Box Set.

You can have it delivered to your door for $41.89 total at
http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/dvd.cfm?itemID=MCA023158
Title: Scarface
Post by: Thecowgoooesmooo on October 01, 2003, 03:57:31 PM
Just got the dvd yesterday. Wish there was a commentary on tha motha fucka. Fuck!

I accidently picked up the full screen version, I assumed for some reason all would be in wide screen... YOU MOTHA FUCKA! FUCK! FUCK!



c
Title: Scarface
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on October 01, 2003, 08:21:15 PM
I think I'll pick this up, though I've never seen it.
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on October 02, 2003, 10:07:49 PM
Got mine.

How come no insert booklet? Did the American version have an insert booklet?
Title: Scarface
Post by: smash on October 02, 2003, 10:38:14 PM
Nope...no insert here either.  Just a damned ad for the soundtrack and some other stuff
Title: Scarface
Post by: Gold Trumpet on October 02, 2003, 10:46:43 PM
Simply, this movie is both horrible and fascinating. People love this movie the way they love the Godfather, but on a different level. This is the X rated version of The Godfather, minor quality in performances, story and tone. I still bought the dvd with pleasure (though most stores here had mainly full frame - logic?) because it is so entertaining to watch. It feels like a required dvd in a way. Not even any Star Wars/LOTR felt that way. The Godfather package did too.

~rougerum
Title: Scarface
Post by: prophet on October 02, 2003, 11:20:30 PM
I just got this. $40

(http://prophet.fluidvision.net/scarface/PDRM2191.JPG)
(http://prophet.fluidvision.net/scarface/PDRM2193.JPG)
Title: Scarface
Post by: edison on October 03, 2003, 01:21:11 PM
Quote from: prophet
I just got this. $40

(http://prophet.fluidvision.net/scarface/PDRM2191.JPG)


is that quarter all you have left after buying this?
Title: Scarface
Post by: Find Your Magali on October 03, 2003, 01:50:21 PM
Quote from: Thecowgoooesmooo
Just got the dvd yesterday. Wish there was a commentary on tha motha fucka. Fuck!

I accidently picked up the full screen version, I assumed for some reason all would be in wide screen... YOU MOTHA FUCKA! FUCK! FUCK!



c


Smear peanut butter on the DVD and place it into your player upside down. You'll get the anamorphic widescreen version, plus three commentaries.

Enjoy!  :wink:
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on October 03, 2003, 01:58:10 PM
ever since I told you guys about the peanut butter secret, you've been blabbing about it to everybody. it's no fun to have easter eggs if they can't find them on their own...


 :wink:
Title: Scarface
Post by: godardian on October 03, 2003, 02:30:36 PM
Gold Trumpet is right in a way, as long as he meant it all as a compliment (as I think he did...). I'm not going to get this right away, but I will eventually. It's not my favorite DePalma by any stretch, but it is very fun to watch.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Steve McQueen's ghost on October 04, 2003, 04:04:32 PM
I don't like the "gangstas and playas". I hate that shit. They fancy themselves a modern Mafia when they are NOTHING like the Old Mafia. I saw this stupid "hard core hiphop gangsta" on TV a while back. He did a "driveby" and shot a 12 year old girl. The bullet hit her spine and now she's in a wheelchair for life. Guess what the "O G Pimp" has to say! He said, "I can't be puttin' no eyes on no bullets". He didn't care. Our hero can't be bothered to pay attention to where he shoots his gun. I wish he would get the gas chamber.  Mobsters were bad guys, but they didn't shoot into houses were children were. These idiot rappers that glorifying violence against women and violence in general are God damned assholes. I wish they would leave Scarface alone.......
Title: Scarface
Post by: meatball on October 07, 2003, 05:34:53 PM
I think the original Scarface was better than the remake. I usually can't stomach the older movies, but this one went down well.
Title: Scarface
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on October 07, 2003, 06:37:43 PM
Quote from: Find Your Magali

Smear peanut butter on the DVD and place it into your player upside down. You'll get the anamorphic widescreen version, plus three commentaries.

Enjoy!  :wink:


That joke never gets old  :lol:
Title: Scarface
Post by: freakerdude on November 02, 2003, 11:19:46 PM
I think the surround sound sucks big time on this DVD. You sure as hell don't need a subwoofer for this one...... :x
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on November 19, 2003, 10:17:39 AM
USA & Universal Planning Scarface Limited Series
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

Universal is looking to develop Scarface as an original limited series on USA Network. The cable channel is developing a multihour project that could resurrect the characters from Al Pacino's 1983 tour de force or explore other story lines set in the same Miami-based crime world.

Details are still sketchy as USA has just begun its efforts to lure top-notch talent on both sides of the camera to fill the shoes of Pacino and director Brian De Palma.

Universal saw further potential for Scarface as a younger generation discovers the gangster drama on DVD, where the recently released two-disc "Anniversary Edition" drew advance orders for more than 2 million units. A four-hour edition of the film provided a ratings bonanza for USA last month.
Title: Scarface
Post by: NEON MERCURY on November 19, 2003, 10:27:01 AM
hahahaha ..this is whack..(like my phucking life)..
::opens up a family photo album::

..what they need to do is cast the al pacino look alike thats on the fox show skin...and get McG to direct..(its right up his alley)..and then cast tifany amber-theisen as the character that phiffer played..And then have the music/score done by 50 cent...

and have the following cameos throughout the series..
1.0  al pacino..
2.0  puffy
3.0  a CGI
4.0  kurt loder
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on November 27, 2003, 02:52:08 PM
...um, I haven't said anything, but I've been thinking about it:

doesn't the new dvd (visually) just look like shit? Colors are crappy, the picture seems totally flat, is there even an improvement over the older shit version?

anybody else find this?

or is it just a dated looking 80's period piece?
I really like the flick, but the picture is detracting from my enjoyment...
Title: Scarface
Post by: mogwai on November 27, 2003, 03:21:06 PM
Quote from: SoNowThen
anybody else find this?

the transfer is the same as the old one, i compared with my old copy and all of it is basically a re-hash. personally i don't have a problem with it because i've seen worse transfers.
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on November 27, 2003, 04:13:41 PM
Quote from: mogwai
Quote from: SoNowThen
anybody else find this?

the transfer is the same as the old one, i compared with my old copy and all of it is basically a re-hash. personally i don't have a problem with it because i've seen worse transfers.


According to this review (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?threadid=160151), this new version is a better transfer.
Title: Scarface
Post by: freakerdude on November 28, 2003, 08:01:23 PM
Man, I think the vid transfer was much better than I expected. Just with my std. DVD player (not progressive scan) and my widescreen, it looks great.

But like I bitched before, the Dolby Digital surround fucking SUCKS! Even the voice audio totally blows.
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on March 09, 2004, 10:46:49 AM
Scarface Mini-Series Confirmed at USA Network
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

Scarface is being reinvented at USA Network, which is developing an updated version that restages the gangster classic with a black cast in inner-city Los Angeles during the crack epidemic of the 1980s.

The four-hour miniseries could be in production as early as the fall in time for a 2005 debut, said Charles "Chic" Eglee, a consulting producer on FX's The Shield, who is attached to write and executive produce the project.

USA's Universal Studios parent holds rights to the characters and the "Scarface" name, which the miniseries would likely retain. A director and cast have yet to be named.

Eglee will create a new cast loosely based on most of the primary characters instead of literally revisiting them. By reimagining the story on the crime-ridden streets of Los Angeles' inner city, Eglee also will be giving the young, urban fan base of the 1983 version a Scarface of its own.
Title: Scarface
Post by: modage on March 09, 2004, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Scarface is being reinvented at USA Network, which is developing an updated version that restages the gangster classic with a black cast in inner-city Los Angeles during the crack epidemic of the 1980s.

a new scarface aimed at black people?!?!  what marketing whiz thought of that?
Title: Scarface
Post by: SoNowThen on March 09, 2004, 01:01:53 PM
Will the theme song be the Moroder score?

(please note, sarcasm above)
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on May 09, 2004, 12:36:22 AM
SCARFACE goes plastic
Action figures to be made from 1983 crime movie
Source: Cinescape

Mezco Toys has announced that it will release a line of action figures based on Brian De Palma's 1983 movie SCARFACE which starred Al Pacino as the cheeky Cuban crime lord. Mezco's license from Universal Studios allows the toy company to make SCARFACE statues and cold cast busts as well as articulated action figures. The first series of SCARFACE products will be 10-inch scale roto-cast figures, and will include multiple versions of Tony Montana from various points in the movie.

Mezco's SCARFACE figs will ship to stores in the fall of 2004.
Title: Scarface
Post by: ono on May 09, 2004, 12:39:54 AM
This has got to be the best idea ever!
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on August 11, 2004, 11:07:01 AM
'Scarface' gets into video game racket

Tony Montana is back in dirty business. The Al Pacino remake of "Scarface" is being made into a console video game, publisher Vivendi Universal Games announced Tuesday. The third-person shooter, developed by Radical Games, is scheduled to ship in fall 2005. Screenwriter David McKenna ("Get Carter," "S.W.A.T.") is contributing "an original event-driven storyline." "The treacherous world of Scarface is a natural property to translate into a cinematic gameplay experience," said Michael Pole, executive vp Worldwide Studios for VU Games. "The game will feature cutting-edge technology, a compelling storyline and the unprecedented experience of playing as one of Hollywood's most notorious gangsters, Tony Montana."
Title: Scarface
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on August 11, 2004, 11:30:21 AM
Scarface video game?

Didn't Vice City come out last year?
Title: Scarface
Post by: grand theft sparrow on August 11, 2004, 12:29:22 PM
Quote from: Walrus, Kookookajoob
Scarface video game?

Didn't Vice City come out last year?


There wasn't enough coke in GTA: Vice City.









Carlito's Way was better.
Title: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on April 25, 2005, 01:44:36 PM
Pacino Brings Back SCARFACE
Al Pacino has signed to voice the legendary character in a video game adaptation of the film.

Vivendi Universal Games has lined up an all-star voice cast that includes Al Pacino for the upcoming adaptation of Scarface, Scarface: The World Is Yours. Original Scarface cast members Steven Bauer and Robert Loggia (who played Manny Ray and Frank Lopez, respectively), comedians Jay Mohr and Cheech Marin and actors James Woods, Miguel Sandoval, Robert Davi, Michael Rappaport and Michael York are also on board.

Set for release this fall, the game will allow players to be the one and only Tony Montana, forced to carve out his drug empire for the second time. The game will be shown publicly for the first time at the Electronic Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles on May 18.

The Scarface video game immerses players in a "what if Tony survives" storyline that begins with the explosive shootout at the end of the film. Gamers will travel through the steamy, often violent streets of Miami, the eerie islands of the various Caribbean locales and will interact with a world full of seedy and dangerous characters to procure information, negotiate business deals, smuggle contraband and avoid rivals and DEA on a mission to rebuild their fallen empire. Scarface is currently in development by veteran video game developer Radical Games for the PlayStation2 computer entertainment system, the Xbox video game system from Microsoft and PC.
Title: Scarface
Post by: SHAFTR on April 25, 2005, 07:39:23 PM
(http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/606/606553/scarface-the-world-is-yours-20050421111747883.jpg)

(http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/606/606553/scarface-the-world-is-yours-20050421111749602.jpg)
Title: Scarface
Post by: Kal on April 25, 2005, 09:02:08 PM
Say hello to my little friend

graphics are good!!
Title: Scarface
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on April 25, 2005, 09:23:29 PM
Yeah... isn't this just Vice City again?

I mean, I know VC was based on Scarface, but therefore, it should be too late to produce a worthwhile game on the same movie, considering the fame and success of GTA:VC.
Title: Scarface
Post by: Ravi on April 25, 2005, 09:38:46 PM
There's a certain group of people who will buy t-shirts, posters, pajamas, whatever, that has Scarface on it.
Title: Scarface
Post by: modage on April 25, 2005, 09:58:02 PM
they're called "rappers" and they usually have millions of dollars to spend.
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on June 22, 2006, 05:01:19 PM
On 10/13, Universal will release a 2-disc Scarface: Platinum Edition (SRP $29.98). No word yet on extras.
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: modage on June 22, 2006, 06:49:14 PM
Dear Universal,

FUCK YOU.

Sincerely,

Me
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: RegularKarate on June 22, 2006, 06:59:25 PM
I keep hoping that the next time I check this thread it will say "America decides to stop talking about this fucking movie"
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on June 24, 2006, 09:40:14 AM
I think America has stopped talking about it as much, but Universal is that guy who keeps bringing up his ex-girlfriend.
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: cine on June 25, 2006, 12:08:45 AM
Dear Universal,

FUCK YOU.

Sincerely,

Me

as if it's actually gonna be worth double-dipping for. please.
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: pete on June 25, 2006, 02:58:49 AM
there are kids on my block who have like 12 tupac shirts and 12 scarface shirts and that's it.
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on August 02, 2006, 05:15:26 PM
New Scarface DVD Due
Platinum Edition promises better sound and bigger bonus features.

On October 3, 2006, Universal Studios Home Entertainment will release Scarface: Platinum Edition on DVD. Proclaiming that the collectible two-disc edition will present fans with the opportunity to "experience director Brian De Palma' s ultimate gangster classic like you never have before," the set promises remastered sound and picture quality as well as an exhaustive slate of bonus materials. The set will be available for the MSRP of $29.98.

According to the press release issued by USHE, the film features an entirely new sound effects and audio mix; specifically, "every sound effect in the film has been replaced and digitally remastered for the ultimate Scarface experience." Additionally, the set "offers additional new bonus features and specially designed, highly collectible packaging that combine to make Scarface: Platinum Edition an extraordinary home entertainment event." The two-disc DVD will feature the following extras:

*Scarface Scoreboard: Watch Scarface like never before; keep track of the number of times the f-word is used, and the number of bullets fired
*Deleted Scenes: Over 20 minutes of intense deleted scenes
*The Making of Scarface: The Video Game: immerse yourself in the world of Scarface in this behind-the-scenes look at the creation of the video game
*The World of Tony Montana: experience the decadent world of the ultimate gangster in this all-new feature; revel in Tony's luxurious and extravagant life in the underworld
*Scarface: The Rebirth: actor Al Pacino, director Brian De Palma, producer Martin Bregman, and screenwriter Oliver Stone examine the history of Scarface, from the original 1932 classic to shooting the script
*Scarface: Creating: a fascinating look at the controversial making of Scarface and the triumphs and struggles experienced by its filmmakers, including the filming of the unforgettable chainsaw scene, location changes, the producer's battles to gain an "R" rating and more
*Scarface: Acting: Al Pacino and other cast members offer insider stories and revealing insights into how these legendary characters were created
*Scarface: TV Version Montage: a revealing and hilarious montage of film clips that compare and contrast the theatrical release to the network version of Scarface


In addition to remastered picture and sound, Scarface: Platinum Edition will be presented in anamorphic widescreen (2.35:1) and feature the following audio options: English Dolby Digital 5.1 (Producer's Mix); DTS 5.1; Spanish Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono; and French Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono. Check out an image of the box art for the forthcoming set:

(http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/article/722/722871/scarface-platinum-edition-20060802013900721-000.jpg)
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: squints on August 02, 2006, 09:40:34 PM
do we really need another Scarface dvd? I wish they'd reissue the 1932 howard hawks movie (which is infinitely better)
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: Derek237 on August 02, 2006, 11:47:07 PM

*Scarface Scoreboard: Watch Scarface like never before; keep track of the number of times the f-word is used, and the number of bullets fired


I won't buy the damn thing, I have the special edition which I got for a great deal, but that special feature does sound pretty amusing. 'Cause I can imagine many people always lose track when they play the Scarface "F-word" drinking game. If you stay concious throughout the entire movie, you know you're a real man.
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: Ravi on August 02, 2006, 11:49:03 PM
entirely new sound effects and audio mix; specifically, "every sound effect in the film has been replaced and digitally remastered for the ultimate Scarface experience."

FINALLY
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: grand theft sparrow on August 03, 2006, 02:28:26 PM
This explains it!

(http://static.flickr.com/72/205904955_6520f69f1a.jpg)

Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on September 22, 2011, 08:55:03 AM
'Scarface' Update Being Developed By Universal
The film would be produced by former studio head Marc Shmuger and Martin Bregman, producer on the 1983 remake.
Source: THR

Say hello to Universal’s new little friend.

The studio is developing a new Scarface movie to be produced by ousted former studio head Marc Shmuger and Martin Bregman, the veteran producer who made the 1983 remake.

The project is in the early stages but it being described as not a sequel or outright remake of the 1983 Al Pacino-starring movie nor the 1932 Paul Muni-George Raft movie.

Each of those were crime sagas telling the rise and fall of a gangster, and each was a mirror of their time. The 1932 version was set in Chicago and featured bootlegging, Italians and Irish mobsters. The 1983 version was set in Latin-loving Miami and cocaine was the vice of choice.

The new Scarface is planned to be the same: a crime tale set in today’s world, offering a dark look at the American Dream.
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on September 22, 2011, 11:03:00 AM
Fun fact: At least 2 actors from Scarface have prominent roles in Breaking Bad:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0546797/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000874/

Vince Gilligan is an enormous Scarface fan. They should wait until Breaking Bad ends so he can write and direct this.
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: MacGuffin on August 01, 2013, 01:24:18 PM
David Yates In Final Talks For ‘Scarface’ Helm Now Universal “Very High” On Script
BY NIKKI FINKE, Editor in Chief | Deadline

EXCLUSIVE: There’s a ton of curiosity and criticism about Universal‘s Scarface reboot since both the 1932 Chicago bootlegging film and 1983 Miami cocaine-dealing versions were so iconic. Understanding that, the studio according to my sources has been refining the script with several screenwriters and drafts while keeping all names and details under wraps.

“Universal has been through a couple of drafts and now is very high on the current draft. The first stop is the director. This is before any conversations on talent or timing.” I’ve learned that the studio is in final talks with British director David Yates who directed the final four films in the Harry Potter film series (#s 5, 6, 7, and 8 from 2007-2011) – and in my opinion should have won some Oscar nominations for them as the franchise grew dark and interesting under his helming. Though he normally works at Warner Bros, Yates has been the subject of considerable chatter over which film projects he’d do next. A prolific TV director known for his gripping British TV six-part political thriller State Of Play (2003) and the Emmy-winning The Girl In The Café (2005), Yates is a founding member of Directors UK. He now is much in demand with the finish of the Harry Potter franchise.

On Scarface, he will be tasked with updating the crime saga so it lives up to the Ben Hecht/Howard Hawks/Paul Muni and Oliver Stone/Brian De Palma/Al Pacino classics since both became part of popular culture. This is not a remake or sequel but a reboot of a crime kingpin who through a ruthless campaign of ambition goes in hot pursuit of his American Dream – whatever that is in this decade. Ethnicity and geography were important in the first two versions so expect the same here. Former Universal head Marc Shmuger and his Global Produce banner is producing along with Martin Bregman who produced the Pacino version.
Title: Re: Scarface
Post by: Gold Trumpet on August 02, 2013, 12:32:23 AM
It's funny because it's one of those films which has a lot of room for improvement but I can't see how they will really focus on the right things to improve it anyways. It also will probably be more of a curiosity because there is too much association with what Scarface stands for and how he acts and who plays him that any remake is bound to fall flat on its face with the public. It's funny to me because the 1983 remake itself isn't a very good movie in most ways. Definitely open to argument, but I thought De Palma just misread what the appropriate style should have been and misfired.