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Title: Phantom Thread - Awards ticker
Post by: wilberfan on November 30, 2017, 03:17:00 PM
Paul Thomas Anderson awarded "Best Original Screenplay" from the National Board of Review:

http://www.goldderby.com/article/2017/2018-national-board-of-review-awards-the-post-meryl-streep-lady-bird-greta-gerwig/


Another Best Screenplay award for Phantom Thread, this time from the New York Film Critics Circle.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-ny-film-critics-awards-20171129-story.html

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Best screenplay went to Paul Thomas Anderson for “Phantom Thread.” The film was among the last to screen for critics this season, and so it had been a mystery item when it came to many early predictions. Anderson is a four-time Oscar nominee for screenwriting.
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Post by: FilmCell on November 30, 2017, 09:46:48 PM
The fact that a movie like Ladybird is being chosen as the best film of the year makes me think we're in for a letdown when it comes to Phantom Thread.
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Post by: Punch Drunk Hate on December 03, 2017, 12:52:54 PM
https://twitter.com/jon_frosch/status/937393384188080128
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Post by: wilberfan on December 03, 2017, 03:50:42 PM
Only one nod to Phantom Thread from the L.A. Film Critics.

Los Angeles Film Critics gave their

BEST SCORE
Jonny Greenwood, PHANTOM THREAD
Runner-Up: Alexandre Desplat, THE SHAPE OF WATER.

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
Dan Laustsen, THE SHAPE OF WATER
Runner-Up: Roger Deakins, BLADE RUNNER 2049

BEST PRODUCTION DESIGN
Dennis Gassner, BLADE RUNNER 2049
Runner-Up: Paul D. Austerberry, THE SHAPE OF WATER

BEST SCREENPLAY
GET OUT
Runner-up: Martin McDonagh, THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI

BEST DIRECTOR:
Guillermo del Toro, THE SHAPE OF WATER and Luca Guadagnino, CALL ME BY YOUR NAME (tie)

BEST PICTURE
CALL ME BY YOUR NAME
Runner-Up:  THE FLORIDA PROJECT

BEST ACTRESS
Sally Hawkins, THE SHAPE OF WATER
Runner-up: Frances McDormand, THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI

BEST ACTOR
Timothée Chalamet, CALL ME BY YOUR NAME
Runner-Up: James Franco, THE DISASTER ARTIST

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Laurie Metcalf, LADY BIRD
Runner-up: Mary J. Blige, MUDBOUND

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Willem Dafoe, THE FLORIDA PROJECT
Runner-up: Sam Rockwell, THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI

BEST EDITING
Lee Smith, DUNKIRK
Runner-up: Tatiana S. Riegel, I, TONYA.

NEW GENERATION AWARD
Greta Gerwig.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread - Awards ticker
Post by: jenkins on December 06, 2017, 12:49:20 AM
Eric Kohn: 17 Best Movies of 2017 (http://www.indiewire.com/2017/12/best-indie-movies-2017-1201902931/)

1. Get Out – Jordan Peele
2. Foxtrot – Samuel Maoz
3. Lady Bird – Greta Gerwig
4. A Fantastic Woman – Sebastián Lelio
5. Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson
[14. A Ghost Story]

Richard Lawson: 10 Best Films of 2017 (http://yearendlists.com/category/2017-movies/)

1. BPM (Beats Per Minute) – Robin Campillo
2. Faces Places – Agnès Varda and JR
3. Call Me by Your Name – Luca Guadagnino
4. The Lost City of Z – James Gray
5. Get Out – Jordan Peele
6. Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson
[9. A Ghost Story]

David Ehrlich’s 25 Best Films of 2017 (https://vimeo.com/245670075)

1. Call Me by Your Name – Luca Guadagnino
2. Dunkirk – Christopher Nolan
3. A Ghost Story – David Lowery
4. Personal Shopper – Olivier Assayas
5. The Florida Project – Sean Baker
6. Columbus – Kogonada
7. Lady Bird – Greta Gerwig
8. Faces Places – Agnès Varda and JR
9. The Post – Steven Spielberg
10. Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson

David Edelstein - Vulture
1. Florida Project
10. Phantom Thread
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Post by: jenkins on December 06, 2017, 11:14:04 AM
Manohla Dargis: 40 Best Movies of 2017 (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/movies/best-movies.html)

1 Dunkirk – Christopher Nolan
2 Ex Libris: New York Public Library – Frederick Wiseman
3 Faces Places – Agnès Varda and JR
4 The Florida Project – Sean Baker
5 Get Out – Jordan Peele
6 Lady Bird – Greta Gerwig
7 Okja – Bong Joon-ho
8 Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson

A.O. Scott: 21 Best Movies of 2017 (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/movies/best-movies.html)

1 The Florida Project – Sean Baker
2 Lady Bird – Greta Gerwig
3 Get Out – Jordan Peele
4 I Am Not Your Negro – Raoul Peck
5 Faces Places – Agnès Varda and JR
6 Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson

S&S, John Waters, and Cahiers du Cinéma are here (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=13445.msg350736#msg350736) btw
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Post by: jenkins on December 07, 2017, 07:00:08 PM
K. Austin Collins: 24 Best Movies of 2017 (https://www.theringer.com/movies/2017/12/7/16743796/best-films-2017-get-out-the-florida-project-good-time)

1. Good Time – Ben Safdie and Joshua Safdie
1. [tie] Dawson City: Frozen Time – Bill Morrison
2. The Work – Jairus McLeary and Gethin Aldous
3. Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson

here's the one fellas-- Ed Gonzalez: Top 30 Movies of 2017 (https://twitter.com/certified_ed/status/938828582859821056)

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Since the embargo is up on Phantom Thread, letting this cat out of the bag:
1. Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson

Emily Yoshida: 10 Best Movies of 2017 (http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/emily-yoshida-10-best-movies-of-2017.html)

1. Your Name – Makoto Shinkai
2. Call Me by Your Name – Luca Guadagnino
3. Get Out – Jordan Peele
4. Lady Bird – Greta Gerwig
5. The Florida Project – Sean Baker
6. Princess Cyd – Stephen Cone
7. Good Time – Ben Safdie and Joshua Safdie
8. Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson
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Post by: jenkins on December 08, 2017, 12:41:18 PM
Slant: 50 Best Films of 2017 (https://www.slantmagazine.com/features/article/the-25-best-films-of-2017)

1. Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson

Dana Stevens: Top 15 Movies of 2017 (https://slate.com/arts/2017/12/the-10-best-movies-of-2017.html)

BPM (Beats Per Minute) – Robin Campillo
Call Me by Your Name – Luca Guadagnino
Columbus – Kogonada
Dawson City: Frozen Time – Bill Morrison
Faces Places – Agnès Varda and JR
The Florida Project – Sean Baker
Get Out – Jordan Peele
A Ghost Story – David Lowery
Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson
Wonder Woman – Patty Jenkins
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Post by: jenkins on December 09, 2017, 12:50:32 AM
Graham Fuller: 20 Best Movies of 2017 (https://theculturetrip.com/north-america/articles/the-twenty-best-movies-of-2017/)

1. Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson

really i'm only interested in the lists of John Waters and Richard Brody. and here we go:

Richard Brody: 35 Best Movies of 2017 (https://www.newyorker.com/culture/2017-in-review/the-best-movies-of-2017)

1. Get Out – Jordan Peele
2. A Quiet Passion – Terence Davies
3. Good Time – Ben Safdie and Joshua Safdie
4. A Ghost Story – David Lowery
5. Slack Bay – Bruno Dumont
6. Phantom Thread – Paul Thomas Anderson

he's a fan, just more a fan of A Ghost Story xx
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Post by: wilberfan on December 10, 2017, 08:29:16 PM
Boston Society of Film Critics

Best Picture: Phantom Thread
Best Actor: Daniel Kaluuya for Get Out
Best Actress: Sally Hawkins for The Shape of Water
Best Supporting Actor: Willem Dafoe for The Florida Project
Best Supporting Actress: Laurie Metcalf for Lady Bird
Best Director: Paul Thomas Anderson for Phantom Thread
Best Screenplay: Greta Gerwig for Lady Bird
Best Cinematography: Hoyte Van Hoytema for Dunkirk
Best Documentary: Dawson City: Frozen in Time
Best Foreign-Language Film (awarded in memory of Jay Carr): The Square
Best Animated Film: Coco
Best Film Editing (awarded in memory of Karen Schmeer): David Lowery for A Ghost Story
Best New Filmmaker (awarded in memory of David Brudnoy): Jordan Peele for Get Out
Best Ensemble Cast: The Meyerowitz Stories
Best Original Score: Jonny Greenwood for Phantom Thread

New York Film Critics Online

Best Picture (TIE)
The Florida Project
Mudbound

Best Director
Dee Rees, Mudbound

Best Actor
Gary Oldman, Darkest Hour

Best Actress
Margot Robbie, I, Tonya

Best Supporting Actor
Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project

Best Supporting Actress
Allison Janney, I, Tonya

Bes Screenplay
Jordan Peele, Get Out

Best Breakthrough Performer
Timothée Chalamet, Call Me By Your Name

Best Debut Director
Jordan Peele, Get Out

Best Ensemble Cast
Mudbound

Best Documentary
Bombshell: The Hedy Lamarr Story

Best Foreign Language
In the Fade

Best Animated
Coco

Best Cinematography
Dan Laustsen, The Shape of Water

Best Use of Music
Steven Price (music by) and Kristen Lane (music supervisor), Baby Driver

Top 10 Films of 2017
Call Me by Your Name
Dunkirk
The Florida Project
Get Out
I, Tonya
Lady Bird
Mudbound
Phantom Thread
The Post
The Shape of Water

http://deadline.com/2017/12/boston-society-of-film-new-york-film-critics-online-winners-2017-phantom-thread-the-florida-project-mudbound-1202223949/
Title: Re: Phantom Thread - Awards ticker
Post by: FilmCell on December 11, 2017, 07:48:17 AM
Best Actor and Best Score nominations from the Golden Globes. Shut out of Screenplay, Director and Best Picture.

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Post by: Drenk on December 11, 2017, 08:29:53 AM
Christopher Plummer is nominated. He shot his scenes two weeks ago. This is—yes—all very silly. And yet, I am happy for Greenwood. Awards make me dumb.
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Post by: FilmCell on December 11, 2017, 08:35:28 AM
Ridley Scott got nominated for All the Money in the World   :yabbse-thumbdown:
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Post by: d on January 05, 2018, 01:06:49 PM
What do you guys think about all the recent snubs? I'm know next to nothing about all the awards business but WGA snub seems strange considering PTA has already won some screenplay awards for this one, right? Do you care about the awards? PTA seems not to give a fuck and be slightly annoyed/shocked by losing at Oscars at the same time. Much as I think Oscars are bullshit in recent years I would love to see PTA finally get some well-deserved mainstream recognition. My dream for Phantom Thread is PTA winning at least one for say screenplay and Greenwood winning. The latter seems not so unlikely this time but PTA being snubbed will always be surreal for me.
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Post by: modage on January 05, 2018, 03:23:58 PM
Not surprised.
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Post by: modage on January 05, 2018, 08:44:39 PM
Wrote this a couple years ago but still true today.

http://cigsandredvines.blogspot.com/2013/02/a-few-thoughts-on-academy-awards.html

TLDR: It’s nice when the Oscars get it right but more often than not they don’t and it doesn’t affect which films stand the test of time one iota. PTA will be fine.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread - Awards ticker
Post by: wilberfan on January 08, 2018, 05:18:34 PM
Given that DDL is doing extremely limited amounts of press/promotion for Thread, I was quite surprised to see that he was present at the Globes last night...
Title: Re: Phantom Thread - Awards ticker
Post by: csage97 on January 08, 2018, 05:55:20 PM
The Oscars used to be the major religious holiday in our family.  (I'm not exaggerating.)  Probably starting around the year that "The Artist" won best picture, I've gradually become more and more disillusioned with them.  Last year I could barely care at all (although I was pleased when "La La Land" 'lost' at the wire.)  The last 3 or 4 years especially have seemed to be an endless stream of high-praised films that I've been unimpressed with.  ("Whiplash" comes to mind.)  So, my tastes--or the "mainstream" tastes are evolving (or both) and apparently in opposite directions.

That said, I would be thrilled to see a PTA film win Best Picture and/or PTA to win Best Director.  (But Oscars only.  The Golden Globes are bullshit.  Or at least bigger bullshit than the Oscars.)

wilberfan, I think we're on a similar wavelength. I almost walked out of the theatre for La La Land (though I admit the cinematography was very nice), and I didn't really like Whiplash (Birdman was far, far better. Give me Lubezki and that score any day). I just really don't like Chazelle's stories.

One thing I disagree with you on, though, is Inherent Vice. I don't think it's PTA's best, but I still thoroughly enjoy it.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread - Awards ticker
Post by: wilberfan on January 08, 2018, 07:19:56 PM
One thing I disagree with you on, though, is Inherent Vice. I don't think it's PTA's best, but I still thoroughly enjoy it.

I've promised myself, out of respect to PTA, that the next time it's playing on the big screen in L.A. (at some geographically reasonable location), I'll give it another try.  Two attempts to rewatch it at home have resulted in my hurling the remote at the TV.
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Post by: wilberfan on January 11, 2018, 01:56:22 PM
DGA Feature Film Nominations Announced

http://www.awardscircuit.com/2018/01/11/dga-feature-film-nominations-announced/

Guillermo del Toro, “The Shape of Water” (Fox Searchlight)
*First Nomination

Greta Gerwig, “Lady Bird” (A24)
*First Nomination

Martin McDonagh, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri” (Fox Searchlight)
*First Nomination

Christopher Nolan, “Dunkirk” (Warner Bros)
*Fourth Nomination

Jordan Peele, “Get Out” (Universal Pictures)
*First Nomination, also nominated for First-Time Feature Film
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Post by: Drenk on January 11, 2018, 02:13:14 PM
Send more screeners, I guess.
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Post by: Sleepless on January 23, 2018, 07:52:01 AM
Oscar nominations:

Best Picture
Best Director
Best Actor - Daniel Day-Lewis
Best Supporting Actress - Lesley Manville
Best Original Score
Best Costume Design
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Post by: ono on January 23, 2018, 08:41:57 AM
Krieps got snubbed?  That sucks!
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on January 23, 2018, 08:48:10 AM
Pleasantly surprised! But yeah, Krieps over Manville for sure.
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Post by: ©brad on January 23, 2018, 10:15:06 AM
Great news! Per Vulture:

"I heard from so many Oscar voters that Phantom Thread was the last film they watched before voting, and it clearly paid off. The Paul Thomas Anderson film performed beyond its wildest dreams this morning, picking up six nominations, including a dark-horse nod for Best Supporting Actress candidate Lesley Manville (fuck us up, Cyril!), and we-didn’t-dare-to-hope nods for Best Picture and Best Director."

Also I saw the movie on Saturday and I loooooooooooooved it. More thoughts later.
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Post by: wilberfan on January 23, 2018, 11:58:30 AM
This many Oscar noms are indeed a surprise to me.  Although the lack of one for Krieps is really disappointing.
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Post by: eward on January 23, 2018, 01:21:49 PM
I see it happening.
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Post by: ©brad on January 23, 2018, 05:19:44 PM
Yeah, especially in this #metoo era. Still, nice to see PTA nominated.
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Post by: csage97 on January 23, 2018, 05:20:18 PM
I don't really get why DDL would be nominated for a leading actor award but Vicky not for the leading actress at the Oscars. They way she says,


SPOILERS

"She can no longer behave this way and be dressed by the house of Woodcock!" after stealing back Barbara Rose's dress and, "I want you flat on your back, helpless" is just great.

/SPOILERS


I do really like DDL's performance but I daresay I think Vicky Krieps' at least matches DDL's in quality. Either the men were generally poorer than the women this year, or there's some favoritism going on here.

I also noticed that it's generally the same eight or so films that are being nominated for all the awards. Obviously it's a Hollywood event and you can't include all the indie films and stuff, but I'm sure there are more deserving movies that are skipped over. What about Florida Project or Richard Linklater's new film? I can't take awards ceremonies too seriously, and history shows us that they don't dictate what's actually the best or has the biggest impact. Awards ceremonies are kind of strange and inbred anyway.
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Post by: eward on January 23, 2018, 06:59:56 PM
Such a ridiculous snub. DDL doesn't need another trophy. Nor does Meryl Streep - she was good and all in The Post, but let's get real: Vicky Krieps is one of the great cinematic finds of this century and ahhh fuck the Oscars.
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Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on January 23, 2018, 07:39:17 PM
Such a ridiculous snub. DDL doesn't need another trophy. Nor does Meryl Streep - she was good and all in The Post, but let's get real: Vicky Krieps is one of the great cinematic finds of this century and ahhh fuck the Oscars.

I mean, I get it, she's amazing in the film, but she's been getting snubbed pretty consistently all season so its not surprising at all. Phantom Thread did a hell of a lot better than I was expecting so I don't think its a moment to complain. Best Picture and Director noms? That's fantastic fucking news.
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Post by: eward on January 23, 2018, 07:43:21 PM
It is, I guess I just don't believe it's going to win in any category (maaaaaybe costumes and score but it feels like a long shot) so my excitement isn't properly pitched.
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Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on January 23, 2018, 08:59:39 PM
Also not surprised, but nominating DDL and Manville over Krieps feels like a misunderstanding of the movie on the part of the Academy

...which is pretty much par for the course for the Academy, though I'll say the competition in the Best Actress category was tougher this year than in the other two. Streep got her auto-nom, Margot Robbie is having an it girl moment, and the other three are leads in the front-running films. Vicky is still breaking out and will be there in a few years if she keeps picking the right roles.

Overall though, none of this shit matters beyond getting the next project funded. Actual Oscars are bullshit, but they are business. And after the virtual shut-out of Inherent Vice (and its financial underperformance), its a relief to see Paul/Phantom Thread get so much love for two very practical reasons:

1. Focus will have to continue pushing the film for the next few months, with a longer stretch of theatrical exhibition and a bigger, wider promotional push, meaning more people will see it and it will make more money, with the added bonuses of more PTA interviews and more chances for us to see it in theaters.

2. Because of the above, studios will be more likely to gamble money on his next project. And its all about that next project.
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Post by: d on February 03, 2018, 06:30:41 AM
Since around The Master I've kept asking myself: am I delusional? To me PTA is in a different league than any other contemporary director. Is it a matter of personal preference? With the last few movies he created fairly unique genere for himself - twisted drama with fucked-up characters and wicked humor. Maybe that plus his masterful craftsmanship simply is 100% what I expect from cinema?

But it seems so wrong that he is even compared to surely talented and probably nice people like Gerwig and Peele. Some of the above are good movies. I really liked CMBYN. Get Out, Lady Bird were both ok. Hated Dunkirk. Enjoyed but was annoyed at the same time with Billboards. None of them however is nowhere near as ambitious, intelligent, unique and well-made as Phantom Thread. Is there any other director nowadays who at least tries to make something truly unique or moving or at least impressive? Refn? von Trier? I respect Fincher for his skills but not sure I can call him true artist. Guadagnino is promising. Villeneuve is ok but overrated. Sorrentino? Bennett Miller is really good but not PTA-level good. Maybe the mistake I make is that I'm expecting others to make PTA movies?

I enjoy other movies but it's a bummer that for a few years now new PTA movie is the best movie I've seen since the previous PTA movie.
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Post by: Drenk on February 03, 2018, 08:01:39 AM
Since around The Master I've kept asking myself: am I delusional? To me PTA is in a different league than any other contemporary director. Is it a matter of personal preference? With the last few movies he created fairly unique genere for himself - twisted drama with fucked-up characters and wicked humor. Maybe that plus his masterful craftsmanship simply is 100% what I expect from cinema?

But it seems so wrong that he is even compared to surely talented and probably nice people like Gerwig and Peele. Some of the above are good movies. I really liked CMBYN. Get Out, Lady Bird were both ok. Hated Dunkirk. Enjoyed but was annoyed at the same time with Billboards. None of them however is nowhere near as ambitious, intelligent, unique and well-made as Phantom Thread. Is there any other director nowadays who at least tries to make something truly unique or moving or at least impressive? Refn? von Trier? I respect Fincher for his skills but not sure I can call him true artist. Guadagnino is promising. Villeneuve is ok but overrated. Sorrentino? Bennett Miller is really good but not PTA-level good. Maybe the mistake I make is that I'm expecting others to make PTA movies?

I enjoy other movies but it's a bummer that for a few years now new PTA movie is the best movie I've seen since the previous PTA movie.

Look. Hazanavicius won when Malick was nominated for Tree of Life. The Oscars are a narrative that matters in a way since, I guess, PTA being one of the best out there would be more "known" if he had won one Oscars...maybe...? It doesn't change the fact that he's clearly the better director of that list (well, I think Dunkirk is great and you can at least see that the craft and ambition are on a high level) but I realize more and more that he is in the shadows. I mean, Phantom Thread is once again a big flop. People are taking pictures of them alone in theaters before the movie. After the nominations, the movie got an expansion, playing in more movie theaters, and yet it's still doing -36% by week...I don't want to say that nobody cares. The releases are an event of some kind for those who follow him, or for critics or the small bubble of "Film Twitter" (whatever that is...), but it does feel like a parallel  universe. He's a big name and...kind of invisible...? It's a weird position to be in, indeed.

But he's still has access to the budgets he needs. Even if sometimes it's as if The Beatles were The Beatles, made their album, the same, but had 25% of the public they had; so you scream with ten people in an empty arena...

It's getting sadder, though. He's a prestige card for studios, but if that prestige is getting thinner and thinner in the "real world", well...

The Oscars show how forgotten he can be in the "culture". But they also gave best picture to Spotlight. And yet, they're another kind of "prestige". A business prestige, yes—but that's an important one when you want to make movies...
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Post by: d on February 03, 2018, 02:49:45 PM
PTA being one of the best out there would be more "known" if he had won one Oscars...maybe...?

Well, my point is he is currently not just "one of the best" but easily the best by a large large margin. Would I really want him to win awards and be better known? I don't know. It surely will be fun to see him on stage in March but you are obviously right - what matters is that he gets the budgets. And surely I don't care if he is more famous or not. Box office? He himself seems to care about that. I guess it is al least to some extent because he would like the people who pay for his movies to make money rather than lose. It's also perfectly understandable he feels more comfortable then as well.
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Post by: modage on February 04, 2018, 07:02:59 AM
I enjoy other movies but it's a bummer that for a few years now new PTA movie is the best movie I've seen since the previous PTA movie.

Welcome to Xixax. This is our curse.
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Post by: Lewton on February 05, 2018, 11:01:33 AM
To me PTA is in a different league than any other contemporary director.

While I tend to look forward to his work more than anyone else's, I would never make this claim because there's no way that no other artist is achieving similar levels of greatness. I mean, this isn't only a hunch. It's borne out by my own viewing experiences. There are many unusual and great movies out there! There aren't really other truly PTA-esque movies, sure, but no one is perfectly matching Spielberg's standard, either. Those are both great filmmakers partly because their achievements can't be precisely emulated by others and their work often refuses to be forgotten in a good way. But there are many others who are also great in different, and sometimes similar, ways...

None of them however is nowhere near as ambitious, intelligent, unique and well-made as Phantom Thread. Is there any other director nowadays who at least tries to make something truly unique or moving or at least impressive?

Based on what I've seen: James Gray, Terrence Malick, Luca Guadagnino, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Ruben Östlund, Lynne Ramsay, David Lynch, Sean Baker, and (potentially) David Robert Mitchell, among others.

Based on what I've heard: Claire Denis and Yorgos Lanthimos, among others.

I enjoy other movies but it's a bummer that for a few years now new PTA movie is the best movie I've seen since the previous PTA movie.

Including experiencing older classics for the first time and everything? Not that you even need to go back that far to find uniquely compelling stuff. Again, while the arrival of a new PTA movie is a major event for me on a personal level -- his writing and visuals are my favourite -- I'm still similarly floored by other movies.
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Post by: d on February 15, 2018, 02:21:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JkLHmKNPLo

The Chalamet speech also there. The way he reads it from a piece of paper pretending the jokes are spontaneous makes it look even more weird than the quotes but also cool somehow. I mean Chalamet obviously, not PTA who is super-cool.
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Post by: jenkins on February 15, 2018, 11:15:14 AM
the way PT shrugs while walking away is a highly accurate review of that speech. he doesn't appear super cool there he appears super human.

Chalamet brings up PDL and dovetails into The Master, if that's not well-known. their speeches go about the same, just Chalamet is younger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgw30nZ_-RQ
Title: Re: Phantom Thread - Awards ticker
Post by: wilberfan on February 15, 2018, 05:50:29 PM
Phantom Thread wins Best Film in Village Voice Film Poll


https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/02/13/the-village-voice-film-poll/


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To be fair, the Voice poll does like PTA: The Master and There Will Be Blood came out on top in 2012 and 2007, respectively, and even his divisive Thomas Pynchon adaptation Inherent Vice had a respectable showing in 2014. (In fact, every film Anderson made since 1999 has placed in our Top Ten; view past results of the Village Voice Film Poll here.) But perhaps more significantly, Phantom Thread is the kind of work — patient, subtle, sexy, disturbing — that sinks into your brain and lingers there for a while. It was a pleasant surprise to see it do so well with Oscar nominations; maybe these added weeks of reflection will prod the Academy to throw it an actual statue or two.
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Post by: eward on March 03, 2018, 07:49:28 PM
If We Picked the Winners: Best Director - RogerEbert.com

https://www.rogerebert.com/festivals-and-awards/if-we-picked-the-winners-2018-best-director

"It’s sort of amazing that Paul Thomas Anderson has never won an Academy Award. He’s only been nominated for best director once before: for 2007’s “There Will Be Blood,” his first collaboration with the great Daniel Day-Lewis. And he has several screenwriting nominations for his work on some of the most original and influential films of the past generation, including “Boogie Nights” and “Magnolia.” Now, he finds himself in the directing category again for “Phantom Thread.” And it would be so fantastic if he finally won. With “Phantom Thread,” he pulls off the most dazzlingly deceptive high-wire act. He tricks you into believing you’re watching one kind of film: a meticulously crafted but detached period piece, set within the luxurious world of 1950s London couture. Day-Lewis stars as the marvelously named Reynolds Woodcock, a world-famous designer who makes dresses for heiresses and aristocrats—a man whose life is as measured and precise the gowns he creates. But with the introduction of a headstrong waitress named Alma (the formidable Vicky Krieps), Reynolds’ perfect world gets turned upside down. So does “Phantom Thread”: It slowly but surely becomes another kind of film entirely, one that’s darker and weirder than you ever could have imagined, and deliriously so. The way Anderson sneaks in his brilliantly twisted sense of humor throughout the film—until it ultimately takes hold completely—is one of his hallmarks, and it’s one of the movie’s many strengths. You never know where “Phantom Thread” is going as it whisks you along with the help of a lush and transporting score from his usual composer, Radiohead’s Jonny Greenwood. But you know you’re once again in the hands of a master, one who isn’t afraid to challenge you both intellectually and emotionally."
Title: Re: Phantom Thread - Awards ticker
Post by: Tdog on March 04, 2018, 10:33:15 AM
It would be great if PTA won but unfortunately it seems like nobody outside his fans are talking about Phantom Thread.
We can only hope for some sort of dark horse, out of nowhere win but it seems highly unlikely to happen when the Oscars are as politicised as they have always been.

At this rate though he seems destined to get an honourary symbolic best picture award in about 20 years (Ala SCORSESE for The Departed). As others in this thread have lamented ol' PTA is head and shoulders above all the other nominees and in general film makers of today, so it's always baffling when his movies do as they do.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread - Awards ticker
Post by: wilberfan on March 04, 2018, 12:12:53 PM
I was listening to a local L.A.-based NPR Awards Recap (https://www.scpr.org/programs/filmweek/2018/03/02/17970/), with a moderator and 5 or 6 professional critics discussing the different categories in front of a live audience.  Two of the critics were quite enthusiastic about Phantom Thread, but when the moderator would poll the audience (via applause) for their choices for the various awards, Thread never seemed to get a very enthusiastic response.  Given my assumptions about an NPR audience and the 'classy' venue (https://theatre.acehotel.com), I would have expected a better response from them for this film. 
Title: Re: Phantom Thread - Awards ticker
Post by: jenkins on March 04, 2018, 10:01:35 PM
i'm not against surprises fellas, but Phantom Thread won best costume and Jonny Greenwood lost, i think that's a wrap. there's no way it'll win best picture though, if Jonny Greenwood lost, you know.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread - Awards ticker
Post by: greenberryhill on August 24, 2018, 12:15:10 PM
A new prize for our beloved Phantom Thread :bravo:

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/paul-thomas-anderson-wins-record-third-fipresci-prize-phantom-thread-1202916205/