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The Director's Chair => Paul Thomas Anderson => Topic started by: KJ on October 23, 2017, 09:37:05 PM

Title: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: KJ on October 23, 2017, 09:37:05 PM
there is probably an older thread, but i'm interesting in seeing what everyone thinks a couple of films later.

1. the master
2. there will be blood
3. magnolia
4. punch-drunk love
5. inherent vice
6. boogie nights
7. sydney
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: BigSock on October 23, 2017, 09:42:04 PM
1. There Will Be Blood
2. Boogie Nights
3. Magnolia
4. The Master
5. Punch-Drunk Love
6. Inherent Vice
7. Hard 8
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 09:43:23 PM
Sure.  I'll play.  But my ranking is based on how much i respond to each film.  (It also more or less describes how many times I've seen them.)

1. Boogie Nights
2. Magnolia
3. Punch-Drunk Love
4. There Will Be Blood
5. The Master
6. Hard Eight
7. Inherent Vice

I think TWBB may well be his best film--but Boogie Nights will always be my favorite of his films.

[edit]  I just noticed that 1 - 5 on my list happens to match the order in which I first saw these films.
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on October 23, 2017, 10:22:13 PM
1. Magnolia
2. Punch-Drunk Love
3. There Will Be Blood
4. Boogie Nights
5. The Master
6. Inherent Vice
7. Hard Sydney
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 11:34:37 PM
I've often wondered if the order in which you see PTA's films has any effect on your ranking of them...  Thoughts?
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Lottery on October 23, 2017, 11:56:40 PM
I reckon if you're one of his earlier fans, you're more likely to rank Magnolia higher.

Probably:

1. The Master
2. Punch Drunk Love
3. There Will Be Blood
4. Boogie Nights
5. Inherent Vice
6. Magnolia
7. Sydney

Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: polkablues on October 24, 2017, 12:10:19 AM
This is like Sophie's Choice, except instead of forcing me to choose which of my children I would let die, you're asking me to do something hard.

1. Blood
2. Mag
3. Mast
4. Boog
5. Punch
6. Vice
7. Syd
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: wilder on October 24, 2017, 12:24:28 AM
Even though on a scene-by-scene basis his more recent work may be stronger or more original, thereís still nothing that matches the sheer emotional intensity of Magnolia for me, and Iím sure many of us. Itís like a cathartic tidal wave. His filmography aside, the only other thing that comes close to achieving its feeling is Margaret, in my eyes. So...

Magnolia
Boogie Nights
Inherent Vice
There Will Be Blood
The Master
Punch-Drunk Love
Hard Eight

This is becoming increasingly hard. I dig the performance more in TWBB but the filmmaking more in The Master. The sort of beat down regal gentleman vibe of Hard Eight more than Punch-Drunk, but it being his earliest work, by nature it just isnít as tightly executed and doesnít have as unique rhythm. Iíd probably care for The Master more if heíd done another draft. It was pretty shocking when the version that came out was so close to that early script that leaked. As much as I like it, the story seems a little undercooked to me. But then again, given that it was sort of his first non-adaptation, non filmmaker inspired movie (in the way Hard Eight had Bob le flambeur and Boogie Nights has Goodfellas etc as models) maybe that was to be expected. I donít know. I like them all. I like everything.

Phantom Thread looks aces.
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: WorldForgot on October 24, 2017, 03:21:45 AM
1. Inherent Vice (... when I watch this film it's as if all of my feelings about life, and the reverberations of the feelings I've forgotten, have been distilled onto celluloid)
2. There Will Be Blood
3. The Master
4. Punch-Drunk Love
5. Magnolia
6. Boogie Nights
7. Hard Sydney
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Drenk on October 24, 2017, 07:45:52 AM
Well.

1) Magnolia
2) There Will Be Blood
3) Punch Drunk Love
4) Whatever
5) Sydney
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Shughes on October 24, 2017, 07:51:13 AM
Ranked:

1. There Will Be Blood
2. The Master
3. Magnolia
4. Boogie Nights
5. Punch Drunk Love
6. Inherent Vice
7. Sydney

Order I first watched:

1. Boogie Nights (VHS)
2. Sydney (VHS - UK so 'Hard Eight', ratio cropped, etc)
3. Magnolia (DVD)
4. Punch Drunk Love (Cinema)
5. There Will Be Blood (Cinema)
6. The Master (Cinema)
7. Inherent Vice (Cinema)

I'm not sure if the order in which I watched has had an effect on my rankings, but would argue that the format in which I watched had an effect on the impact of each film. Down to the fact that Sydney/Hard Eight was pan and scan VHS and looked like crap. I later re-watched in the correct aspect ratio and liked it a whole lot more. Still at the bottom of my list - but every film on the list is great!
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Sleepless on October 24, 2017, 08:54:53 AM
Based on nothing more than my personal love:

1. There Will Be Blood
2. Magnolia
3. Boogie Nights
4. Punch-Drunk Love
5. Sydney
6. Inherent Vice
7. The Master
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Reelist on October 24, 2017, 09:02:47 AM
1. Punch Drunk Love
2. Magnolia
3. Boogie Nights
4. There Will Be Blood
5. The Master
6. Hard Eight
7. Inherent Vice


Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: HACKANUT on October 24, 2017, 09:15:25 AM
I'm a very compulsive film watcher, often rewatching the same film many many times because I enjoy living in their worlds. I've lost track of how many times i've seen Pauls movies but I'm gonna try to guess as well.

In order by how compulsively I rewatch each film:

1. The Master (50+)(5 times in theaters)
2. Inherent Vice (50+)(4 times in theaters)
3. Punch Drunk Love (~30)
4. Boogie Nights (~30)
5. There Will Be Blood(~30)
6. Magnolia (~10)
7. Hard Eight (5)

I much prefer post-coke PTA.
but I do think There Will Be Blood and The Master are his most important films, even though I tend to not rewatch Blood nearly as much as the comfort food that is The Master and Inherent Vice.
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Reelist on October 24, 2017, 09:35:48 AM
I can never believe someone who says they've seen a movie over 50 times, unless you actually made that movie or you're 4 years old watching "Frozen". My conclusion is that you may have pressed play and had it on in the room 50 times, but you haven't actually sat down and seen the thing front to back that much. That's just too many goddamn times! The only movie I could honestly say I might have watched that much is Disney's "Beauty And The Beast" because it was the first VHS I ever owned so it I played it like clockwork everyday after school.
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on October 24, 2017, 10:00:34 AM
Favorites, with guesses as to how many times I've watched them / had them on in the room:

Magnolia (80+)
Boogie Nights (100+)
The Master (7)
Chere Mill Be Blood (15)
Punch-Drunk Love (30)
Hard Eight (35)
Inherent Vice (5)
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: modage on October 24, 2017, 10:04:06 AM
Literally can't believe we don't have a thread for this already but...

1. Magnolia
2. Boogie Nights
3. There Will Be Blood
4. Punch-Drunk Love
5. The Master
6. Inherent Vice
7. Hard Eight

I think Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood are locked in a tie for best but Magnolia will always be my favorite.

On my personal list I think I just have to accept that the BOOGIExMAGGIExCHEREMILL Top 3 is probably never changing.
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: axxonn on October 24, 2017, 10:34:23 AM
1. Inherent Vice
2. Punch-Drunk Love
3. The Master
4. Magnolia
5. There Will Be Blood
6. Boogie Nights
7. Hard Eight
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Kal on October 24, 2017, 12:03:15 PM
1) Boogie Nights
2) Magnolia
3) There Will Be Blood
4) Punch Drunk Love
5) The Master
6) Hard Eight
7) Inherent Vice

I think as I get older, I don't get to re-watch new things as much as I used to. I'll re-watch older films still over and over again, but I haven't re-watched recent films more than once or twice even if I love them. Maybe Inherent Vice will grow more on me if I watch it more...

#1 is a no brainer for me, #2 and #3 are pretty close.
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: RegularKarate on October 24, 2017, 12:24:59 PM
1. Maggie
2. Cherey
3. Punchy
4. Boogie
5. Masty
6. Vicey
7. Sidney
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: jenkins on October 24, 2017, 01:18:49 PM
Boogie Nights
Inherent Vice
Punch-Drunk Love
Magnolia
Hard Eight
The Master
There Will Be Blood
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: wilberfan on October 24, 2017, 03:51:22 PM
1. Maggie
2. Cherey
3. Punchy
4. Boogie
5. Masty
6. Vicey
7. Sidney

These made me smile, but you gotta help a brother out:  "Cherey"?   I'm not getting the reference...
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: polkablues on October 24, 2017, 03:54:38 PM
A history of the best long-running inside joke this board has produced:

http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=10940.msg284554#msg284554
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: wilberfan on October 24, 2017, 03:58:16 PM
As of this posting, here's where the various films have been ranked.   Not sure what it means yet, other than Hard Eight and Inherent Vice seem to rank the lowest most often.  And Magnolia and There Will Be Blood the highest most often...
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: jenkins on October 24, 2017, 04:06:57 PM
we gotta wait to see TUBA's list, that'll clear things up
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: KJ on October 24, 2017, 04:13:03 PM
at least we agree on calling it cmbb.

7. sydney
7. Hard 8
6. Hard Eight
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman link=topic=13779.msg349690#msg349690
7. Hard Sydney
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: wilberfan on October 24, 2017, 04:26:48 PM
If you award 7-points to a first-place vote, 6-points to a 2nd-place vote...

Again, Magnolia and TWBB seem to be at the top, Hard 8 clearly at the bottom, with Boogie, Punch, Master pretty close in the middle. 

(This Boogie Nights obsessive is rather surprised.  At least it made it to the podium.  Bronze ain't bad, I guess.)
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: HACKANUT on October 24, 2017, 05:14:30 PM
I can never believe someone who says they've seen a movie over 50 times, unless you actually made that movie or you're 4 years old watching "Frozen". My conclusion is that you may have pressed play and had it on in the room 50 times, but you haven't actually sat down and seen the thing front to back that much. That's just too many goddamn times! The only movie I could honestly say I might have watched that much is Disney's "Beauty And The Beast" because it was the first VHS I ever owned so it I played it like clockwork everyday after school.

I mean, it is just a guess, but there was a time there when the dvd came out that i watched it about 5 times a week for months. i'm really not exaggerating there. and I have seen it at least 5 times this year alone. The Master is totally the Frozen of my inner 4 year old:)
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: wilberfan on October 24, 2017, 05:20:03 PM
I can never believe someone who says they've seen a movie over 50 times, unless you actually made that movie or you're 4 years old watching "Frozen".

I mean, it is just a guess, but there was a time there when the dvd came out that i watched it about 5 times a week for months. i'm really not exaggerating there. and I have seen it at least 5 times this year alone. The Master is totally the Frozen of my inner 4 year old:)

A little off-topic, but I was obsessed with Kubrick and 2001 back in the day and once wrote down every time I'd seen it.  It's always been in a theater (to this day I've never watched it on TV), and the total got up into the low-30s... 
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Something Spanish on November 05, 2017, 06:53:58 PM
Watched Magnolia for the first time in almost 8 years for confirmation and here's mine:

Magnolia
Inherent Vice
Punch-Drunk Love
The Master
There Will Be Blood
Boogie Nights
Hard Eight

"I want you to come in with me, and I want you to stay away from me"
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on November 05, 2017, 09:44:09 PM
Lists are dumb but allow me to indulge.

The excellent...

There Will Be Blood
The Master
Punch Drunk Love
Boogie Nights

The not as excellent...

Magnolia
Inherent Vice
Hard Eight

(Watching Magnolia now is tough because the melodramatics come off as corny instead of moving. It's overload.)
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Lottery on November 05, 2017, 10:04:50 PM
(Watching Magnolia now is tough because the melodramatics come off as corny instead of moving. It's overload.)

This definitely could be in the triggering opinions thread but I kinda agree to some extent. It was overwhelming and draining in a good way the first few times I watched it but it doesn't feel as strong as it once was. It's earnest, youthful and ambitious but his later works are more emotionally convincing and powerful to me.
Still pretty great though.

Literally can't believe we don't have a thread for this already but...

Also yeah, that's crazy.
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: Something Spanish on November 06, 2017, 10:27:14 AM
On the contrary for me, watching it now after all these years was almost like seeing it anew and from a new perspective; I found it just as powerful, if not more so, than when I saw it in my youth. I saw this flick 9 times during its theatrical run, an unprecedented number of times considering the most I've ever seen a movie in theaters at that point was maybe twice. Last time I saw it was when the blu-ray was released, now I'm 34, have seen at least a thousand other flicks int her interim and still revel at the movie's ambitions, its scope, its innovations, the incredible dialogue, just everything about it is awe-inspiring. I don't ever want to wait such a long time between viewing again. I can recognize people feeling the emotions are over-the-top, especially for some of the characters, but I find that the many emotional breakdowns are well-balanced with the other more level headed characters, not to mentioned earned due to the topics at hand; terminal cancer and child abuse/molestation tend to have that effect. The movie is so personal, wears its heart on its sleeve so blatantly that the filmmaker will probably never feel inclined to plumb those depths again.
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: velociraptor on November 06, 2017, 11:38:59 AM
1. The Master
2. There Will Be Blood
3. Punch-Drunk Love
4. Boogie Nights
5. Inherent Vice
6. Magnolia
7. Hard Eight
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: The Ultimate Badass on November 11, 2017, 08:22:13 PM
1. Magnolia
2. Punch-Drunk Love
3. Boogie Nights
4. There Will Be Blood
5. The Master
6. Inherent Vice
Title: Re: how would you rank his films so far?
Post by: eward on November 11, 2017, 09:51:06 PM
With Emojis:

1. The Master 🐒⚓️☝️
2. Magnolia ☔️🐸🌺
3. Punch-Drunk Love 📞🌴❤️
4. There Will Be Blood 🖤✝️🔥
5. Boogie Nights 🎥🍆🕺
6. Inherent Vice ✌🏻💨⛵️ (and I LOVE Inherent Vice)
7. Hard Eight ☕️🚬🎲

and we shall see where

Phantom Thread 👗✂️💔

lands....