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Title: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilder on June 02, 2016, 08:21:51 PM
Paul Thomas Anderson & Daniel Day-Lewis Reteaming For Drama Set In 1950s Fashion World
via The Playlist

As one of the most exciting American filmmakers working today, we’ve all been wondering; what’s Paul Thomas Anderson’s up to next? Certainly not directing “Pinocchio” though he did do rewrites on the project for his buddy Robert Downey Jr. (he almost starred in “Inherent Vice”). Well, now we know and it’s a move and project that no one would have really expected in a million years: PTA is reteaming with his “There Will Be Blood” star Daniel Day-Lewis for a movie set in the 1950s fashion world in New York.

Apparently no deals are in place, but Day-Lewis is in talks for the project. Anderson and Day-Lewis obviously were a tremendous pairing on 2007’s “There Will Be Blood,” a movie that won the actor his second Academy Award for Best Actor and one for its DP Robert Elswit (in total ‘Blood’ was nominated for eight awards including Best Picture and Best Director).

Evidently while Anderson is still working on the script Day-Lewis has been attached to the project for some time so clearly the director/actor have been mapping out there next move together likely months ago PTA has been apparently meeting young actresses of Eastern European descent to cast supporting roles. This is not unlike the director’s approach to “The Master,” which saw a number of names circling early on as he worked on the screenplay and conducted rehearsals, before the final cast solidified, and it rolled in front of cameras.

Megan Ellison’s Annapurna Pictures, who last worked with Anderson on “The Master,” is producing and financing the untitled project. Day-Lewis hasn’t made a movie since 2011’s “Lincoln” while Anderson’s last movie was the terrific documentary “Junun” featuring Radiohead’s Jonny Greenwood, Shye Ben Tzur & The Rajastan Express. He’s also directed recent music videos for Joanna Newsom and Radiohead.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on June 02, 2016, 09:02:43 PM
Best film of 2019 (so far). Also:

PTA has been apparently meeting young actresses of Eastern European descent to cast supporting roles.

PTA has a cool life.
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Post by: Kellen on June 03, 2016, 12:01:13 AM
Awwwww shit!
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Post by: Reelist on June 04, 2016, 12:43:29 AM
So, is this about the guy who designed his favorite shirt?
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Post by: polkablues on June 04, 2016, 02:05:14 AM
So, is this about the guy who designed his favorite shirt?

The movie will be titled "The Perfect Shade of Brown".
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Post by: Reelist on June 04, 2016, 02:52:52 PM
"I've got a fashion in me. I want no one else to wear tweed."
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Post by: wilder on June 04, 2016, 03:12:12 PM
For the love of god marquee
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 04, 2016, 03:44:02 PM
My Left Pant
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Post by: Reelist on June 04, 2016, 05:01:11 PM
"ASSHOLE IN AN ASCOT!!"
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Post by: Find Your Magali on June 04, 2016, 06:51:36 PM
OK, it says "drama," but this would seem like a possible opportunity for PTA to do a riff/homage of Putney Swope.

Plus, had DDL ever done anything approaching a full comedy? Get that three-time Oscar winner out of his comfort zone. Set him as the straight-laced executive trying to keep it together as Robert Downey Jr. and Don Cheadle go into full hijinx mode.
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Post by: Reelist on June 04, 2016, 07:09:53 PM
"One night I'm going to come to you. Inside of your house, it's whatever if your sleeping. And I'm going to adjust your coat"
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Post by: Lottery on June 05, 2016, 01:50:48 AM
OK, it says "drama," but this would seem like a possible opportunity for PTA to do a riff/homage of Putney Swope.

Plus, had DDL ever done anything approaching a full comedy? Get that three-time Oscar winner out of his comfort zone. Set him as the straight-laced executive trying to keep it together as Robert Downey Jr. and Don Cheadle go into full hijinx mode.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096166/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_13


He should bring back Mihai Malamaire back on this one.
Also, watch as PTA decides DDL is too old and then Joaquin steps in (but please more PTA DDL, I feel like most people would still cast DDL even if was too old).
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Post by: Reelist on June 05, 2016, 05:33:39 PM
"I. SHRINK. YOUR. SILK CAPE!!"
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Post by: max from fearless on June 06, 2016, 03:50:30 PM
I'm with you Lottery! Please bring back Mihai Malamaire. The Master just keeps looking better and better in my eyes...
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Post by: max from fearless on June 07, 2016, 06:40:01 PM
If this is the story, this could be great...

Is Paul Thomas Anderson’s Next Movie About This Famous Fashion Designer?
By Kyle Buchanan (From Vulture)


Last week’s announcement that director Paul Thomas Anderson would be reuniting with Daniel Day-Lewis for his next film had the industry buzzing: Day-Lewis has not made a film since 2012’s Lincoln, and his return to the screen could hardly come under better auspices, since he won an Oscar for his terrifying, iconic work as oil baron Daniel Plainview in Anderson’s There Will Be Blood. But fans of Anderson have little to go on when it comes to the new project’s log line. Unlike Anderson’s last movie, Inherent Vice, which was adapted from a well-known Thomas Pynchon novel, his latest film has no name and its plot remains under wraps; all that Variety could divulge about it is that it will be set in the New York fashion world during the 1950s.

Still, even that slim thread provides a few clues. Anderson often makes films that are inspired by real people — Boogie Nights lead Dirk Diggler was a takeoff on porn star John Holmes, for instance, and Philip Seymour Hoffman’s spiritual leader in The Master was clearly patterned on Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard — and since the new project has such a specific milieu, we sought to identify a figure from the fashion world during that era that Day-Lewis could conceivably play. Let the well-researched speculation begin.

While New York came into its own as a style capital after World War II, the 1950s were mostly dominated by designers who lived and worked in Europe, like Christian Dior, Pierre Balmain, and Cristóbal Balenciaga, so if you presume that Day-Lewis’s character is a notable fashion designer — and given that the actor is in his late 50s, it’s not likely he’d be playing some mere lackey — then there are only a few notable, New York–based designers from that time who seem like they could be plausible subjects.

One of them is Mainbocher, one of the most in-demand couturiers of the era, who famously designed the wedding dress for American socialite Wallis Simpson as she prepared to marry the abdicating King Edward VIII of England. (The story of the that coupling was told recently in Madonna’s critically panned directorial effort W.E.) But we suspect that if Anderson is indeed making a movie inspired by a New York fashion designer in the 1950s, he’d be most drawn to Charles James, who created some of the most audacious, expensive gowns in the world and even dressed other titans of couture like Coco Chanel. His was a life full of terrific drama, and like several other Anderson protagonists, James was a mercurial mastermind, a prodigy around whom an interesting adopted family formed.

The British-born James came to America as a teenager, though not before a controversial stint at school that saw him yanked from Harrow for wearing makeup. The precocious James thrived in his new country, opening up a hat shop in Chicago at 19, then moving to New York to design and sell dresses at age 22. He made an impression with his famous taxi dress, which was boldly zipped around the torso, and quickly became a favored couturier of dynamic women like Marlene Dietrich, Babe Paley, and Gypsy Rose Lee. In the '40s and '50s, he was a fashion-world sensation and, reportedly, something of an egomaniac. As one biographer put it:

He considered himself an artist rather than a dressmaker, and was so strongly attached to his creations that he felt they ultimately belonged to him. He would borrow back a dress from one client, only to lend it to another; or, worse, loan it out for an advertising campaign for feminine products. At minimum eccentricity, the darkly handsome designer — who was said to have been an excellent model for his own work — might don a finished gown and dance all night in his apartment above the Chelsea Hotel before handing it over … if he handed it over at all. He did not let go of his creations easily. He made his clients pay, sometimes twice for the same gown, and sometimes for a garment he had also promised another client. He was notorious for not having garments delivered on time.

James’s personal life was just as hectic. A gossip and man-about-town, he was given to mood swings, and he once tried to kill himself over a boy he had romantic designs on. (Even that attempted suicide had a fairly fashionable outcome, as James was rescued and cut down by his neighbor, Jean Cocteau.) While he romanced men in plain sight, his sexuality was complicated; after one fling with stage designer Keith Cuerdon, James stole Cuerdon’s wife, Nancy, and married her himself. It’s no wonder that James’s dresses were draped so dramatically, given all that was going on behind the scenes. As Patricia Mears, who oversees the James collection at the Brooklyn Museum of Art, said to Vanity Fair, “Each dress reflects his tortured soul. He’s trying to deal with his own sexuality, his own conflicts in life.”

Though his dresses were among the most expensive in the world, James was a profligate spender, and merely staying afloat and paying the rent was a suspenseful enterprise for him. (He once emptied a jar of cockroaches on the front desk of the Delmonico Hotel in an attempt to evade his debts there.) Mired in lawsuits, inattentive to his tax obligations, and irrevocably drawn to burning bridges in the fashion world, James’s business went under in the late '50s, though he remained a charismatic society figure until his death, in 1978. Recently, there has been a resurgence of interest in his brand: James was the muse for the Met Gala two years ago and the subject of a recent New York Magazine article, and nearly a year and a half after Harvey Weinstein released Anderson’s 2012 movie, The Master, Weinstein announced that his company had struck a deal to acquire the Charles James label.

Is that a clue about Anderson’s next film (which is currently set up without a studio) or mere coincidence? Nobody involved with the project is talking, but whether or not Anderson’s '50’s-set fashion drama draws inspiration from Charles James, there’s no denying the cinematic contours of James’s wild life. Filmmaker Angela Bernhard Thomas recently helmed a documentary about James entitled Beneath the Dress, and even the artists in James’s orbit have begun to entice Hollywood; Antonio Lopez, a fashion illustrator who enjoyed a notable friendship and collaboration with James, is set to be the subject of another documentary (and with good reason, because the man lived a crazy life that included plucking Jessica Lange out of a French mime school to give her the imprimatur of a superstar). James, his adventures, his friends, and his obsessions would certainly make for a terrific Paul Thomas Anderson film and give Daniel Day-Lewis a compelling new character, but even if our hunch is incorrect … well, we’re sure Charles wouldn’t mind a rumor linking him to two more fabulous artists with boldfaced names.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lottery on June 08, 2016, 12:00:41 AM
Sounds like a great basis for a story/character. He should approach historical figures the same way he did in The Master- approximations of individuals. Drawing directly from history but using his own characters to explore the situations and moments he wants. Heck- The Master certainly isn't the first film where he did this. But I feel it's where he did it best.

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Take the "I drink your milkshake" line from There Will Be Blood. There are a lot of people out there who I'm sure think, "Kind of hit a sour note with the 'milkshake' bit, Paul" [laughs]. Because, yeah, it's big. But if memory serves, that exact line was taken from a transcript from the 1920s, when the Teapot Dome scandal was going on, so . . . if you can convince yourself that there's some link to reality, then you can justify anything.

He doesn't need to do a biopic that mirrors reality- in fact, I think that would work against him. The dude is big admirer of American culture/people/history, he has so much to draw upon, so much to use- to create something fresh but real.
This probably all sounds basic and straightforward but goddamn, did he make the alternate reality of The Master feel so real without it ever feeling like a cheap allusion.
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Post by: Find Your Magali on June 08, 2016, 08:23:44 AM
There is certainly more than enough material in James' bio for a fascinating film and a fascinating performance by DDL.

It also strikes me -- after reading the bio and checking out some photos -- that James' wife, Nancy Lee Gregory, could be in Maya Rudolph's wheelhouse. Which could be really cool.
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Post by: Fernando on September 08, 2016, 09:41:15 AM
Focus Features Pick Up Paul Thomas Anderson & Daniel Day-Lewis’s New Movie, 2017 Release Planned

Deadline reports that Focus Features have won an auction for worldwide rights for the new movie from the “Magnolia” and “Inherent Vice” director, which will reteam him with his Oscar-winning “There Will Be Blood” star Daniel Day-Lewis. As previously reported, it’ll be a drama set in the fashion world in the 1950s, and Focus will finance the $35 million budget entirely, making this one of the biggest deals ever struck at a festival.

While details are still thin on the ground (aside that Anderson will produce alongside longtime producing partner JoAnne Sellar and Megan Ellison, who backed his last couple of films too), the good news is that we shouldn’t have long to wait: shooting will apparently begin next year for a release before the end of 2017. It couldn’t be better news to start the fall season off with (particularly with Focus, who looked to be getting out of the prestige game for a while, but see this joining a slate that also includes movies by Tom Ford, Joe Wright and Sofia Coppola, among others). More news on this as we get it.
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Post by: Find Your Magali on September 08, 2016, 10:34:23 AM
$35M?
Release within 16 months?

Even if he's (secretly) way far along in pre-production, that would really represent slimming things down and speeding things up for this one.

Lean and mean no-frills drama. I like it.
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Post by: Sleepless on September 08, 2016, 02:09:49 PM
Steak and vodka.
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Post by: Just Withnail on September 08, 2016, 03:40:27 PM
Cocktails and finger food.
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Post by: Just Withnail on November 29, 2016, 11:29:27 AM
A little bird whispered some tantalizing details in my ear, from close to the source (for the moment very vague, maybe more a little later)

addiction and master/slave-relationship again plays a big part

the cinematographer will be a very surprising choice
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Post by: Shughes on January 24, 2017, 10:21:15 AM
Any further word on who the cinematographer might be?

Anyone got any dream DoP's they'd pair with PTA (excluding the guys he's worked with already)?
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Post by: greenberryhill on January 24, 2017, 08:52:11 PM
Paul is producing an upcoming film by Melora Walters!
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Post by: velociraptor on January 25, 2017, 11:29:51 AM
Any further word on who the cinematographer might be?

Anyone got any dream DoP's they'd pair with PTA (excluding the guys he's worked with already)?
I'm personally under the assumption PTA had to meet some budget restrictions and will be acting as his own DoP for this one.
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Post by: Just Withnail on January 25, 2017, 11:55:08 AM
Bingo, on the last part, as far as I heard.
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Post by: Lottery on January 25, 2017, 08:23:52 PM
That's pretty crazy. I wonder if the small crew/freedom of Junun gave him the confidence to go do that.
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Post by: Shughes on January 26, 2017, 05:44:43 AM
Wow. That's a huge decision to make. If this is the case surely it wasn't a choice that was made for budgetary reasons. Apart from anything else most DoP's would give their right arm to work with PTA regardless of budget.

I think he's always been pretty hands on in that respect anyway, and seems to be in control of the aesthetic for each film. I can't think of any other films shot by Robert Elswit that even come close to the work he's done with PTA.

I'm assuming this will be shot on film so while the Junun experience may have given him confidence in the smaller crew this will be completely different. I can't wait to see what he comes up with if this is true.
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Post by: greenberryhill on January 28, 2017, 01:21:32 PM
 Daniel Day-Lewis spotted filming in Lythe, England! The Film Stage says it´s Paul´s new movie!
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Post by: Just Withnail on January 29, 2017, 02:38:39 AM
Oh no, it's Vincent Froio again.

(http://img.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/startracks/060814/daniel_day_lewis.jpg)
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Post by: Fitzroy on January 29, 2017, 04:02:08 AM
More photos here. I think I see Paul in one of them...

https://www.whitby-photography.com/daniel-day-lewis-filming-whitby-yorkshire-today/
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lottery on January 30, 2017, 06:34:59 PM
https://cigsandredvines.blogspot.com.au/2017/01/new-pta-film-shooting-under-working.html

Phantom Thread?

What do you lads think?
I can already see it in a simple font and the end of a minute and a half long youtube teaser.
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Post by: Drenk on January 30, 2017, 06:50:25 PM
"The title is not THE PHANTOM THREAD. That is a production codename to deter paparazzi/film sites."

https://twitter.com/mccrabb_will/status/826211025200361472
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Post by: Lottery on January 30, 2017, 07:33:07 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1560747/locations

Yeah, this is pretty new to him in that regard.

"The title is not THE PHANTOM THREAD. That is a production codename to deter paparazzi/film sites."

Kinda disappointing. I like those words, minus 'the'.
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Post by: velociraptor on January 31, 2017, 10:54:22 AM
https://thefilmstage.com/news/lesley-manville-and-richard-graham-join-paul-thomas-andersons-next-film/

Richard Graham, by the way, is ostensibly this guy: https://www.google.com/search?q=Richard+Graham+titanic&biw=1280&bih=637&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiO_YOe7OzRAhXDyyYKHX0_DXYQ_AUIBygC#imgrc=3f_9Yq_i8U9_MM%3A
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Post by: velociraptor on February 01, 2017, 02:01:31 PM
New pictures include PTA.

https://www.whitby-photography.com/paul-thomas-anderson-filming-staithes-yorkshire-jan-31st-2017/
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Post by: RegularKarate on February 01, 2017, 04:29:42 PM
Press Release (http://theplaylist.net/new-cast-members-logline-revealed-paul-thomas-andersons-new-film-starring-daniel-day-lewis-jonny-greenwood-20170201/)

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LOS ANGELES, February 1st, 2017 – Production has begun in the U.K. on writer/director Paul Thomas Anderson’s untitled new film. Three-time Oscar winner Daniel Day-Lewis is joined in the cast by Lesley Manville, who was a BAFTA Award nominee for Best Actress for Another Year, and Vicky Krieps, whose films include A Most Wanted Man and Focus Features’ Hanna.

Focus holds worldwide rights to the film, and will distribute the film in the U.S. later this year with Universal Pictures handling international distribution.

The film’s producers are JoAnne Sellar, Megan Ellison, through her Annapurna Pictures, and Paul Thomas Anderson. The executive producers are Peter Heslop, Adam Somner, and Daniel Lupi. Chelsea Barnard and Jillian Longnecker are overseeing production for Annapurna.

Continuing their creative collaboration following 2007’s There Will Be Blood, which earned Mr. Day-Lewis the Best Actor Academy Award, Mr. Anderson will once again explore a distinctive milieu of the 20th century. The new movie is a drama set in the couture world of 1950s London. The story illuminates the life behind the curtain of an uncompromising dressmaker commissioned by royalty and high society.

The creative team includes Academy Award-winning costume designer Mark Bridges, marking his eighth consecutive project with Mr. Anderson; Emmy Award-winning production designer Mark Tildesley and BAFTA Award-nominated set decorator Véronique Melery; Academy Award-nominated film editor Dylan Tichenor, and BAFTA Award-nominated composer Jonny Greenwood, each marking their fourth feature with Mr. Anderson; casting director Cassandra Kulukundis, on her seventh film with Mr. Anderson; and lighting cameraman Michael Bauman.
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Post by: modage on February 01, 2017, 04:37:59 PM
The lack of DP there seems to confirm PTA shooting this himself.  :shock:

Also interesting that the other 2 announced castmembers are both actresses who have been spotted on set already in the first few days. I wonder if they are indeed the film's two other most central characters or will there be more that just haven't been announced yet bc they haven't been seen. (Normally I would assume all the main ones are in the press release, but with PTA you never know.)
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Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on February 01, 2017, 06:13:58 PM
The fact that he is DPing it himself is interesting but we need to keep a close eye on that blue scarf he's wearing. Could just be a cold day, but could also potentially be the "That fucking brown shirt" of this era.
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Post by: polkablues on February 01, 2017, 06:37:06 PM
It's at about a half-Aronofsky on the scarf meter for now, but we should continue to monitor its progress, just in case. God forbid it starts to Kravitz on us.
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Post by: ©brad on February 01, 2017, 06:48:28 PM
Could him DPing really be a budget mandate? Since when can't a $35 million dollar movie afford a DP? Hell I can imagine many talented young DPs who would work with PTA for free.
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Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on February 01, 2017, 07:10:59 PM
There's no way its a budget issue. PTA would never compromise on something that big. Crazy motherfucker just got a wild hair up his ass and wanted to do it himself.

I'm really excited to see what the look of the film is gonna be. Kind of hard to see from that angle but it looks like they are shooting 1.85:1 again.
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Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on February 01, 2017, 07:12:58 PM
Looks like Jonny's back too!!

http://pitchfork.com/news/71289-jonny-greenwood-to-score-new-paul-thomas-anderson-film/ (http://pitchfork.com/news/71289-jonny-greenwood-to-score-new-paul-thomas-anderson-film/)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lottery on February 01, 2017, 07:56:42 PM
Dylan Tichenor is back. That's really big news to me. Leslie Mann* was the editor on PDL, TM and IV-  their vibe and flow is different from his other films.

No Crank or Fisk either on this one but type Véronique Melery into google images and you get a few pics of her work and you can totally understand the choice for set decorator.

Jonny! Woooooooooo!

The fact he's DoP on this one is still pretty crazy but I think the mention of Michael Bauman as lighting cameraman is probably important in this regard. He'll be important in balancing out the workload.

EDIT:

*Jones.
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Post by: Reelist on February 01, 2017, 08:48:49 PM
Leslie Mann was the editor on PDL, TM and IV-  their vibe and flow is different from his other films.

Leslie Mann is an actress and Judd Apatow's wife. You're thinking Leslie Jones. Not that one. This is all so very confusing.


The earliest report said this would be set in New York, another hope dashed! I was so excited to see the NYC sequence in 'The Master' that was entirely cut out of the film. We'll get him one day. The end of that movie wasn't actually shot in the UK, so I've become very curious what PTA's England will look like.

Great to see everything moving along so quickly!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lottery on February 01, 2017, 09:11:34 PM
Leslie Mann is an actress and Judd Apatow's wife. You're thinking Leslie Jones. Not that one. This is all so very confusing.

Sorry, I'm a giant retard.

Perhaps Aimee Mann got caught into the mix of thoughts about past collaborators.


The earliest report said this would be set in New York, another hope dashed! I was so excited to see the NYC sequence in 'The Master' that was entirely cut out of the film. We'll get him one day. The end of that movie wasn't actually shot in the UK, so I've become very curious what PTA's England will look like.
Great to see everything moving along so quickly!

Yeah, that's the really exciting thing. He was kinda becoming known as a chronicler of America's 20th century in a way. So I'm wondering if he just followed the story he was writing or if there was some existing reason for him to try something different. A NYC sequence would be dope though. But there's always a possibility that there might be some scenes set in the US. I loved the department store parts in The Master, the production design was superb. I would love to see little NYC boutiques in a similar style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UcaMCzsqNs
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on February 02, 2017, 03:49:22 AM
Dylan Tichenor is back. That's really big news to me. Leslie Mann* was the editor on PDL, TM and IV-  their vibe and flow is different from his other films.



I wish I could watch his first cut of The Master...I still think they cut too many flash-back scenes but: what do I know?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lottery on February 02, 2017, 04:12:11 AM
I wish I could watch his first cut of The Master...I still think they cut too many flash-back scenes but: what do I know?

I thought it was Peter McNulty that did that first cut? This is pretty neat though:

http://filmmakermagazine.com/51979-the-master-writerdirector-paul-thomas-anderson/
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Anderson: It’s pretty tight. We have a nice tight circle of trust. I mean, [editor] Leslie Jones for sure is probably the queen of the cast, her and [producer] JoAnne [Sellars]. But every day Leslie and I just go back and forth about what to do and where things might go. Ultimately the relationship I have with Leslie is pretty, pretty tight and it’s between us. She’s great to work with. [Editor] Dylan [Tichenor] was off doing something else, but he was a part of it, too, checking in and being again a part of what the decisions were. And then, yeah, friends and family.

He also gave some opinions at the writing phase like PSH. That sort of thing is always cool, like Sandler being around during the editing of TWBB, offering advice on cuts.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Just Withnail on February 02, 2017, 06:44:31 AM
Now that things are trickling out, this is what I heard the central plot was (though who knows): DDL plays a pretty misogynist fashion designer who meets a young modell, falls in love, and she hooks him onto drugs and they develop some sort of master-slave relationship, with him as the submissive.

Again, who knows, but it sounds like it could be PTA-ish.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Reelist on February 02, 2017, 09:03:55 AM
Fuck yes.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: velociraptor on February 02, 2017, 09:15:19 AM
Now that things are trickling out, this is what I heard the central plot was (though who knows): DDL plays a pretty misogynist fashion designer who meets a young modell, falls in love, and she hooks him onto drugs and they develop some sort of master-slave relationship, with him as the submissive.

Again, who knows, but it sounds like it could be PTA-ish.
Yes please.

Also, earlier when I guessed that he himself would be DP for budget constraints, I was joking about the budget constraint part. .. admittedly, I was also joking about the PTA being his own DP part, but that may have turned out correct, so I'm going to pretend that I was not in fact joking about that.

EDIT: More set pics. Including scarf. Obviously mild *SPOILERS* ahead. http://bit.ly/2kwltCG
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Reelist on February 02, 2017, 10:25:35 AM
EDIT: More set pics. Including scarf. Obviously mild *SPOILERS* ahead. http://bit.ly/2kwltCG

Daniel Day Lewis is hogtied with a high heel in his mouth in one of them.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Fernando on February 02, 2017, 10:04:21 PM
The fact he's DoP on this one is still pretty crazy but I think the mention of Michael Bauman as lighting cameraman is probably important in this regard. He'll be important in balancing out the workload.

Kubrick did the same with EWS, so maybe he's finally taking the SK road, small crew and a lot of DIY.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on February 02, 2017, 10:35:19 PM
I love the little story behind the pictures.

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I had decided to head home, whilst thinking I had missed the filming and they had all left. However I nipped in a local shop for a coffee before leaving and they told me the filming was behind schedule so I hung about a while longer.

As actors and film crew started to turn up, what was noticeable today was the complete contrast in attitude from the film crew from how we had found them to be earlier in the week. Gone was that air of secrecy we had witnessed in Lythe last week.

The film crew were pleasant and smiley, quite happy to chat and even pose for photographs. They said the filming would be in the afternoon and even said I would be allowed on the platform for some photographs.

Whilst photographing the set and actors, The producer himself turned up and was more than happy to have his photograph taken alongside the Locomotive they would be filming on.

Mr Thomas Anderson seemed quite shocked that I actually didn’t know who he was, however he found it quite amusing that the security and film crew had told me his understudy Roger Bartholemew-Ramjet was the actual producer, and that I had been snapping Mr Ramjet all week thinking i had some awesome shots of Oscar winner Mr Thomas.

Many of the film crew were shocked I had managed to locate them in the middle of the National Park. Some crew were laughing and said even they didn’t know the secret location until 2 hours prior. I explained that we are a tight nit Yorkshire Community and not much goes unnoticed in The Esk Valley.

Mr Thomas Anderson said he had really Enjoyed his stay in Yorkshire, and had massively enjoyed Fish And Chips in Whitby, he added that “Yorkshire was indeed The Finest County in the whole of England”.

The Film crew informed me that today was their final day in the area and they would be heading off to Gloucestershire this evening. However, as always Im sceptical about that given the amount of tales they have spun me this passed week. It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest to see them back in the area again tomorrow morning.
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Post by: greenberryhill on February 03, 2017, 04:29:37 PM
Here´s a clip from the set. (Beware of spoilers)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y0DtxSWjWg
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Post by: ono on March 24, 2017, 09:40:37 PM
http://cigsandredvines.blogspot.com/2017/03/philip-baker-hall-talks-working-with.html

And more pictures from the set.
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Post by: BigSock on March 25, 2017, 06:11:34 PM
Are the rumors about this film possibly not being ready for release this year true? It's April next week and there seems to still be quite a lot to film!
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Post by: polkablues on March 25, 2017, 07:43:34 PM
My best guess would be NY/LA release in December for awards eligibility and full release in January. Plenty of time for post-production to be done by then.
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Post by: martinthewarrior on March 26, 2017, 10:00:17 AM
The current plan (according to someone who would know) is Christmas release.
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Post by: modage on March 27, 2017, 10:42:52 AM
Yeah, I think it's a contractual thing. Movie is greenlit but you gotta get it out in 2017 so he must've thought he could do it.

Maybe with that confidence and the return of Dylan Tichenor we're in for a tighter film with less mountains of footage to shape in the edit. Interestingly or coincidentally the Leslie Jones edited films are his most out there (and had the hardest time finding an audience). PDL. Master. Vice.
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Post by: Something Spanish on March 27, 2017, 10:51:45 AM
I think all his films with the exception of Magnolia spent at least a year in post, so you're probably right about the contractual thing.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: modage on March 29, 2017, 09:15:52 PM
Christmas day release confirmed/announced at CinemaCon.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on March 29, 2017, 09:30:03 PM
As speculated, the 2017 clause must be true if they are indeed aiming for Christmas release, despite the rumors that the movie is currently on a filming hiatus with more still to accomplish
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 31, 2017, 11:54:08 AM
Christmas day release confirmed/announced at CinemaCon.

Focus Features has re-confirmed the Christmas Release date.

http://www.avclub.com/article/paul-thomas-andersons-new-movie-will-arrive-christ-252969
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Post by: Sleepless on March 31, 2017, 01:51:53 PM
So he did make it for the Christmas.
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Post by: Reelist on March 31, 2017, 02:08:47 PM
So he did make it for the Christmas.

There's a shot in 'Get Out' from inside the glass of a donut display and all I was thinking was "don't pan up to the black guy's face, don't pan up to the black guy's face.." and it didn't, but I still think it's a subtle nod. Jordan* says there are a lot of them in the movie.



*we're friends now
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Post by: velociraptor on April 04, 2017, 01:13:09 PM
https://amywelborn.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/on-set-in-london/

Minor update on filming in London, starts about halfway down the post.
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Post by: velociraptor on April 16, 2017, 11:15:00 AM
Filming update.
http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/whats-on/tv-and-film/sir-daniel-day-lewis-phantom-apperance-at-blackpool-s-tower-ballroom-1-8491208
Spoiler-y maybe:
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"One extra said it had been an “exciting but exhausting” experience - starting at 5am and ending after 10pm, complete with glamourous costumes and ‘taboo goings on’ reminiscent of the Chelsea parties. "
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Post by: KJ on April 17, 2017, 12:36:47 PM
a PTA filmed new year's eve party will look pretty great in that setting.
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Post by: BigSock on April 17, 2017, 09:18:56 PM
PTA doing New Years again after Boogie Nights is a win for me

I'm also getting slight Eyes Wide Shut vibes from all we know about the more sexual and salacious aspects of the content
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Post by: budwillies on April 27, 2017, 08:54:21 AM
The imdb page has been updated with new cast and plot line added.  Looks like it is about Charles James after all.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5776858/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_1
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Post by: modage on April 27, 2017, 09:33:20 AM
I'm not sure if I believe it, but I guess it's possible. I just still doubt PTA would go down the beholden to real life route.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on April 30, 2017, 04:15:19 AM
IMDB is prone to occasional misinformation and can be edited by users, but given all the details surrounding the film and PTA's past history, i do believe James is an inspiration rather the  flat-out the subject
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Post by: budwillies on May 03, 2017, 12:29:58 PM
anything new about the film?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on May 26, 2017, 02:10:48 AM
Is there any word if this has wrapped yet  :ponder:
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: greenberryhill on May 29, 2017, 01:00:15 PM
Here are some pics from march that i found a couple weeks ago...

https://www.criticker.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6409
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Post by: polkablues on May 29, 2017, 02:33:11 PM
Dapper Sasquatch

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/polkablues/2e3c493dee_zps5dtxvtyk.jpg)
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 29, 2017, 08:36:09 PM
Is he in mid-stride, or is he dancing in place?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: md on June 02, 2017, 12:29:38 PM
my source told me production wrapped last week and they are locating a house in the valley for post. 
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Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on June 02, 2017, 08:20:59 PM
They should just do it at my house.
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Post by: Something Spanish on June 03, 2017, 04:01:24 AM
Cool, check out PTA bringing back the twist. No one's done that dance in a minute.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Reelist on June 03, 2017, 06:53:57 AM
Dapper Sasquatch

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/polkablues/2e3c493dee_zps5dtxvtyk.jpg)

Is he in mid-stride, or is he dancing in place?

Cool, check out PTA bringing back the twist. No one's done that dance in a minute.


It's actually the 'String Dance' popularized by Conan O' Brien


(http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5d85aGs4k1qe6oczo1_400.gif)
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Post by: greenberryhill on June 20, 2017, 02:49:16 PM
 :(

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/daniel-day-lewis-quits-acting-oscar-winner-1202472766/
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Post by: BigSock on June 20, 2017, 02:55:04 PM
Wow!

I hope all is well between him and PTA! He is 60 and works so selectively, so he probably only had a few roles left anyway
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on June 20, 2017, 03:01:38 PM
Whoa. Maybe this new PTA shit is so good he knows he'll never be able to top it.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jenkins on June 20, 2017, 03:42:30 PM
playlist:

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(tentatively titled) fashion drama “Phantom Thread,”

it's june 20. six months out. the other hope is there's an amazing title they're keeping secret in order to knock our socks off
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Post by: greenberryhill on June 20, 2017, 04:22:46 PM
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it's june 20. six months out. the other hope is there's an amazing title they're keeping secret in order to knock our socks off

I hope the tittle is "There Will Be Fashion Dude"  :yabbse-grin:
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Post by: KJ on June 20, 2017, 06:02:16 PM
Whoa. Maybe this new PTA shit is so good he knows he'll never be able to top it.

thought the same. logged in here to write it just to realized that i missed out on two likes
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: KJ on June 20, 2017, 06:03:32 PM
playlist:

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(tentatively titled) fashion drama “Phantom Thread,”

it's june 20. six months out. the other hope is there's an amazing title they're keeping secret in order to knock our socks off

it will be a secret until PTA is retired. we're not ready to handle it
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on June 22, 2017, 03:31:08 PM
anyone know of a possible release date for a trailer or poster?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on June 22, 2017, 05:59:58 PM
Probably September or October. And then the poster with a title afterward...
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on June 22, 2017, 08:46:02 PM
Focus Features has Beguiled this weekend, Atomic Blonde July 28th, Victoria and Abdul in Sept, and Darkest Hour in November

Around September for Victoria and Abdul makes most sense
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Post by: jenkins on June 25, 2017, 01:42:11 PM
from this Variety article about DDL retirement (http://variety.com/2017/film/columns/daniel-day-lewis-retiring-1202477843/)

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Paul Thomas Anderson, who guided Day-Lewis to his most perversely beloved performance, as the sociopathic oil baron who stole John Huston’s voice in “There Will Be Blood,” has now bequeathed him his official final role. In Anderson’s upcoming Christmas release, “Phantom Thread,” Day-Lewis stars as the visionary British fashion designer Charles James, who was one of the most influential couturiers of the 20th century — and who, interestingly enough, retired himself in 1958, at the age of 52, 20 years before his death. Given Day-Lewis’ legendary immersion in the roles he plays (during the shooting of “Lincoln,” he never broke character, insisting that everyone on set, including director Steven Spielberg, address him as “Mr. President”), one has to wonder whether he might have developed an obsessive identification with a designer/artist like James, to the point of wanting to echo the way he exited the fashion world at the height of his powers.

Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Just Withnail on June 25, 2017, 01:50:18 PM
It's happening again! One day his new film is gonna end up being named "Untitled Paul Thomas Anderson Project".
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Kal on June 26, 2017, 12:28:44 AM
So is that not the title, or working title, or are we just choosing to ignore it here?

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Post by: polkablues on June 26, 2017, 12:44:35 AM
It's definitely the working title at least, but I won't be comfortable committing to it until we see a poster.
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Post by: modage on June 26, 2017, 09:44:53 AM
NYTimes (the paper of record) aso referred to it as Phantom Thread without clarification so that's another vote.
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Post by: BigSock on June 26, 2017, 07:54:48 PM
Happy birthday, PTA!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Just Withnail on June 27, 2017, 08:00:48 AM
That's a better title!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on June 27, 2017, 10:22:14 AM
Apparently Paul met with Sean Parker and got some advice on the title. That man sure hates the word "The"!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on June 27, 2017, 11:24:52 AM
Metal Gear Wardrobe.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 27, 2017, 12:35:33 PM
Resident Eve's Wool
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on June 27, 2017, 01:50:24 PM
Clotheymon
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Post by: md on June 28, 2017, 08:09:47 AM
What's interesting is that DDL was also a co-producer on this project along with Annapurna and PTA, and from what I heard had a heavy hand in the story.
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Post by: BigSock on June 28, 2017, 07:15:40 PM
Exciting! Daniel Day is going all out in his "final" role
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: B on June 28, 2017, 08:11:01 PM
What's interesting is that DDL was also a co-producer on this project along with Annapurna and PTA, and from what I heard had a heavy hand in the story.

Did you hear any details on the story (or other details on DDL's involvement in the story)?

Also I see recent rumors that DDL is becoming a dressmaker after leaving acting? I don't know how much faith to place in this but here's one source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/daniel-day-lewis-reportedly-retiring-acting-become-dressmaker/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/daniel-day-lewis-reportedly-retiring-acting-become-dressmaker/)

According to one anonymous source he was planning to retire from acting for years and just looking for the right project to leave with a "bang". So if true, looks like he really is looking to go all out!
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Post by: Lottery on June 28, 2017, 08:17:39 PM
That's cool as (and exclusive because I can't find that info elsewhere). Reminds me of how PSH was there on the early days of The Master screenplay and he was the one who told PTA that the movie was more Quell's story and less Dodd's.
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Post by: Just Withnail on June 29, 2017, 03:55:17 AM
Also I see recent rumors that DDL is becoming a dressmaker after leaving acting? I don't know how much faith to place in this but here's one source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/daniel-day-lewis-reportedly-retiring-acting-become-dressmaker/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/daniel-day-lewis-reportedly-retiring-acting-become-dressmaker/)

Woa. He's stuck. He's stuck inside the character and can't get out. It had to happen someday.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Just Withnail on June 29, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
Why Paul Thomas Anderson Didn’t Hire a Cinematographer For His New Movie (http://www.indiewire.com/2017/06/paul-thomas-anderson-cinematographer-phantom-thread-daniel-day-lewis-1201848286/)

Quote from: IndieWire
What will be Daniel Day-Lewis’ last movie was known as “Phantom Thread” during production, but that will not be the title when the film hits theaters Christmas Day, IndieWire has learned.

WELL THANK THE LORD

my money is on "Re: Untitled 1950s Fashion World Drama starring Daniel Day-Lewis"
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on July 02, 2017, 04:46:36 PM
I remember crew members had "The Cause" shirts during The Master production, so Phantom Thread is probably a similar placeholder
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: greenberryhill on July 03, 2017, 10:24:02 AM
And for "The Master", they had a film slate with the name "Untitled Western" on it.

(http://smpsp.org/slideshowpro/p.php?a=Rl9CUkNVXn1wY39udmBeXGd5YmJ7ZVVgfllZaWt%2BWFdgc3g9YHt0KD45LiE0MTsuOyU%2FOSc6Lj4zJTAuJzc5JyItIyY7PzEmPjI%3D&m=1416562139)
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Post by: velociraptor on July 06, 2017, 02:55:10 PM
Pointless thought: this image of Charles James feels like it could serve as potential poster inspiration. I'm likely just saying that because it reminds me a bit of The Master
(https://www.1stdibs.com/introspective-magazine/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/8.CharlesJamesbyCecilBeaton1936.jpg)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on July 12, 2017, 01:03:28 PM
I've noticed some stills from movies due out in 2018 have been released this week.  Maybe some stills are due out soon?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: greenberryhill on July 13, 2017, 11:41:39 AM
I´ve been investigating (like Doc Sportello) and found some interesting information about the release dates of Paul´s trailers for his last 3 films:

(This info is about the official trailers, i´m not counting the teaser trailers release dates for There Will Be Blood or The Master)

There Will Be Blood (2007)   
Release Day: December 26
Trailer Release: September 7
3 months and 19 days before release day.

The Master (2012):
Release Day: September 14
Trailer Release: July 19
1 month and 26 days before release day.

Inherent Vice(2014):
Release Day: December 12
Trailer Release: September 29
2 months and 13 days before release day.

So with these patterns i assume we can get a trailer for "Phantom Thread" 2 or 3 months before the release day, maybe late september/early october.
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Post by: budwillies on July 13, 2017, 12:40:25 PM
Interesting....The Churchill biopic trailer was just released and that's a Focus/Universal picture.  That isn't due out to January.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH9ZWmizdIc
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on July 13, 2017, 10:49:34 PM
Darkest Hour releases in the states during Thanksgiving, and the trailer will probably be attached to Dunkirk in theaters
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Post by: axxonn on July 18, 2017, 07:03:17 PM
So excited to see Lesley Manville act under PTA's direction and script! Incredible actress.

Looking at the cast list there's a bit of a Mike Leigh connection going on; I assume PTA is a fan? Has he ever been quoted on Leigh? Or vice versa?
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Post by: wilder on July 18, 2017, 07:08:35 PM
That certainly seems to be the case. He's mentioned Secrets & Lies and Naked before but I don't remember where.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: axxonn on July 19, 2017, 07:42:10 PM
That certainly seems to be the case. He's mentioned Secrets & Lies and Naked before but I don't remember where.

http://www.indiewire.com/1997/10/an-interview-with-paul-thomas-anderson-director-of-boogie-nights-83371/

Ah, here. Thanks. I assume he'll get asked about it potentially when he does the press stuff nearer the time of Phantom Thread's release.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on August 01, 2017, 11:41:19 AM
Pretty slow news month, eh
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on August 02, 2017, 10:37:50 PM
The calm before the storm
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on August 07, 2017, 09:29:22 PM
Quote
Kyle Buchanan‏Verified account
@kylebuchanan
I keep hearing that the Paul Thomas Anderson/Daniel Day-Lewis movie is sort of an art-house FIFTY SHADES OF GREY...

https://twitter.com/kylebuchanan/status/894650152115290118
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: axxonn on August 16, 2017, 06:53:12 PM
Not exactly a great bump to the thread but through a bit of IMDb trawling it appears there's more film shot on PTA's Pathé camera on this one.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: KJ on August 16, 2017, 07:17:54 PM
Quote
Kyle Buchanan‏Verified account
@kylebuchanan
I keep hearing that the Paul Thomas Anderson/Daniel Day-Lewis movie is sort of an art-house FIFTY SHADES OF GREY...

https://twitter.com/kylebuchanan/status/894650152115290118

This is a film I really, really want to see. More so than Inherent Vice.
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Post by: BigSock on August 20, 2017, 06:42:55 PM
Quote
Kristopher Tapley‏Verified account
@kristapley
Can't figure out my anticipation level of PTA's movie. I bow down, but Mike Leigh's 50 Shades?

https://twitter.com/kristapley/status/898646409208971264
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on August 20, 2017, 06:54:08 PM
It's not surprising to me that he apparently made a movie about submission. Hey. Maybe it will be called The Master (for real this time).
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on August 30, 2017, 11:51:35 AM
Do you think this will play at any festivals? :ponder:
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on August 30, 2017, 12:00:54 PM
Probably not. They took eight months to edit The Master and even if it is not the same editor I think he'll finish the movie a few weeks before its release.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on September 04, 2017, 11:29:56 AM
Interview in Film Comment about the movie

https://twitter.com/jpraup/status/904696500739035136
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Post by: Just Withnail on September 04, 2017, 02:23:06 PM
A Fine Cut

Oscar-winning costume designer Mark Bridges talks about developing characters through clothes

BY CHRISTOPHER LAVERTY

Film criticism often ignores how essential costume design is to creating character, but one glance at the filmography of Mark Bridges is enough to clarify its importance. Try to imagine some of the characters in his films—Boogie Nights’s Dirk Diggler and Rollergirl, There Will Be Blood’s Daniel Plainview, The Artist’s George Valentin—without their iconic ensembles. At the top of his field in creating both period and the oft-overlooked contemporary costume, Bridges spoke to us about his craft, from films past and future: his latest, Paul Thomas Anderson’s Phantom Thread, coming later this year, is centered on the world of couture fashion.

How does what is required of you vary from director to director?

My process is the same with each director. I read the script, I do my research, and I make them presentations of what I think the costumes should look like. In that meeting I find out what works for them and what doesn’t. Hopefully we find a rhythm. Sometimes you have to hit the ground running. For I ♥ Huckabees [2004], my first film for David O. Russell, I was called in eight days before shooting. David and I had a concept to work with: we were doing the palette of Luis Buñuel’s film The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie. In fact, David even wanted some of the costumes re-created. David has a lot to say about costume, actually, more so than any other directors I have worked with. You’re always safe with him if you just make it real sexy. He’d yell across the set, “Bring me another top and make it see-through!”

I was surprised to see you had taken on Fifty Shades of Grey [2015]. Why did this project entice you?

It was the opportunity to work with Sam Taylor-Johnson, the director. It was also the opportunity to do a project that will be watched by millions of fans. Could I do justice to that? A college girl and a billionaire’s relationship told through the language of contemporary clothes was too good to pass up. Ultimately I think you see in the clothes that Christian Grey becomes a more regular guy and Anastasia Steele grows from a girl to a woman. And, you know, I don’t get to dress a billionaire every day. I knew it was going to be high-profile and interesting. The book’s author, E.L. James, was there all the time. There was some general guidance about what her fans would probably expect. She was particularly fond of the idea of Anastasia’s graduation dress, described as “grey chiffon” in the book, which I thought was weird for a graduation dress. So how do you solve that? I like to maneuver through things with the least amount of stress so there was that level of diplomatically getting everyone satisfied and happy—including me.

Another surprise was Jason Bourne [2016], as it felt like a very established world already in terms of costume.


I had never done the action genre. I loved working with Paul Greengrass and his team. We did Captain Phillips [2013] together, and I wanted to try my hand at an international action film to see how that would work and how I could make it look and feel real for Paul, who comes from a documentary filmmaking background. I was actually very pleased with it because I feel like it is all there but is so distilled down to the barest essentials of differentiating and speaking about character. Re-creating the riots in Greece at the beginning of the film was a fun challenge to me. How do I make that look real? If someone asks “Is that real footage?” I can say, “No, we shot it all in Tenerife!” It was the same with the Somali village in Captain Phillips. People have asked me if that’s a real village, but they’re all wearing thrift clothes from the San Fernando Valley. I like to fool the eye in a way that is believable.

You have worked for Paul Thomas Anderson on all of his feature films. What is he like in terms of preparation and execution?

I wouldn’t say that Paul is as specific as David O. Russell. He’s a writer-director with a lot on his plate but an incredibly good instinct about what’s right and what’s wrong. He does an enormous amount of research, whether it’s how an oil derrick works or how cult religions began in living rooms after World War II. We did a lot of research for There Will Be Blood [2007]. I put together a book to show him some possible images of the Sunday family and a look for Daniel [Day-Lewis]. It was an actual notebook he could leaf through that moves as the story moves. I think he gave it to Daniel to seal the deal on getting him to do the movie. With Paul there is all this meticulous preparation, but then the filming is more free-form. He creates on set, trying angles and lights and how to play a scene.

You have just finished working with Daniel Day-Lewis and Paul Thomas Anderson again on the upcoming Phantom Thread. How was it?

It had a lot of layers to figure out. Real characters that had to be believable in the world of 1955 England. Both country folk and London society. I had to tell a story with each character’s clothing and communicate the class structure of that period. Then we had to decide what are the designs of the couturier that is Daniel’s character. Are his looks like Norman Hartnell? Hardy Amies? Or is it our own thing? What level of success is he? Is he a Balenciaga? Or a John Cavanagh? It was an enormous amount of research of silhouettes and trends. We were fortunate enough that about a year ago Daniel, Paul, and I were in London and were treated to see some of the clothes that are now on display at the V&A Museum, as part of their Balenciaga exhibition. We could view the construction and embroidery—actually touch it. That was the level of research we undertook.

What are your feelings on contemporary costume being forever overlooked at the Oscars?

It’s funny, but when the Academy had two categories for Costume Design, Black and White and Color, up until 1967, most of the black and white films that won were contemporary. All About Eve, A Place in the Sun, La Dolce Vita—those all won. The films that would win in color, like Camelot, were mostly period. Camelot was the first year there was only one Costume Design category and since then, except for rare exceptions, the winners are all period. I just think what people actually think of as a “costume” is why the period stuff always wins.

You won an Oscar for your work on Michel Hazanavicius’s The Artist [2011]. Are you glad it was for this film?

The Artist was such a labor of love. It was a low-budget movie by a relatively unknown French director. By the end of the shoot crew members would come up to Michel and ask, “How are we going to see this movie?” There was a chance that if nobody picked it up it would be languishing in some French video store as a novelty art piece. There was no reading the script and thinking, “Ooh, I’m gonna get an Oscar for this.” That would be a deadly way to go into these jobs. I mean, I had a guarantee to work on La La Land, but unfortunately they didn’t end up doing it when I was scheduled to, so I did Jason Bourne instead. I wasn’t sitting there going, “La La Land is going to be an Oscar winner, so I’d rather do that.” This is show business, so anything can happen.

Christopher Laverty is an author and costume consultant. He edits the award-winning website Clothes on Film and wrote the book Fashion in Film.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on September 15, 2017, 02:59:31 PM
Possible trailer dropping next week with the release of the Judi Dench movie?  Any word on a possible title?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on September 15, 2017, 03:34:35 PM
Probably not, we don't even have a title. And usually a teaser poster is released before the first trailer drops. I think the promotion will begin in November.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Sleepless on September 15, 2017, 03:35:51 PM
Yep, it's called Conflagrant Chaps: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3826338/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3826338/)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on September 18, 2017, 10:20:04 PM
Possible trailer dropping next week with the release of the Judi Dench movie?  Any word on a possible title?

No, there is not a trailer attached to that movie in theaters
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on September 19, 2017, 03:52:44 PM
Someone on the pta subreddit commented that he or she saw the trailer for a survey company. Maybe it is being released soon? I dmed them to ask about it
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on September 19, 2017, 04:21:34 PM
Someone on the pta subreddit commented that he or she saw the trailer for a survey company. Maybe it is being released soon? I dmed them to ask about it

Please spill the details! Hopefully we can get confirmation on the title
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on September 19, 2017, 04:48:17 PM
Someone on the pta subreddit commented that he or she saw the trailer for a survey company. Maybe it is being released soon? I dmed them to ask about it

Please spill the details! Hopefully we can get confirmation on the title

He or she said that it had "The Master kind of feel to it" in the thread.  Hopefully tonight he gets back to me.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on September 19, 2017, 05:23:52 PM
He replied in the thread:

"It was Phantom Thread, as has been previously mentioned. No change there. There isn't much I can say about it. It didn't give much of a sense of plot but did have almost the tone of a thriller to it, a bit of a departure from PTA's normal vibe. I didn't know I was about to watch it when I did and it was quite late, so I'm having trouble remembering anything else specific."
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on September 19, 2017, 05:27:12 PM
Yep. That's another "insider" on Reddit.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jenkins on September 19, 2017, 08:54:51 PM
this is it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/paulthomasanderson/comments/70o6am/untitled_paul_thomas_anderson_film/

you can click her name and see her posts. there's actually no reason not to believe her. survey people are always random and barely remember anything. i mean there's no reason to believe her either. but like i said.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on September 19, 2017, 10:38:38 PM
The guy dmed me and said that he definitely saw it.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on September 19, 2017, 10:43:51 PM
I still don't believe this because of the lack of detail, but hopefully we get the official news soon
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: polkablues on September 19, 2017, 11:16:46 PM
I'm inclined to believe it on the basis that if she were making it up, she would have thrown in more details to sell the lie. "I saw it, but I dunno, it was kind of thrillery, I guess, I don't really remember," is a terrible lie, but an utterly believable truth.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jenkins on September 19, 2017, 11:54:20 PM
her update

Quote
Again, it was late at night and I didn't know it was about to happen. I was just told to watch a trailer. I didn't even know it was for Phantom Thread at first. And not much happened. What kind of details do you want exactly?? A second by second description? It was DDL and he was measuring things and there was a voiceover and ominous music. You know. A trailer.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on September 19, 2017, 11:58:15 PM
Biggest reason I'm dubious outside of lack of details, is that all the rumors state this is PTA doing Mike Leigh, so I'm anticipating more intimate footage
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jviness02 on September 20, 2017, 06:30:04 PM
Alright, I know how bad this looks, being a first time poster posting SPOILER details, but I can tell you that DDL's character is named Reynolds Woodcock(classic Paul), the film is mostly about an artist and his muse and it has a "Gothic, moody" vibe. Based on what I know, this reddit poster may be telling the truth.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on September 20, 2017, 06:55:11 PM
Ok. I can imagine PTA giggling while writing Woodcock and deciding to keep it.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jviness02 on September 20, 2017, 07:29:41 PM
Ok. I can imagine PTA giggling while writing Woodcock and deciding to keep it.

This was my response as well, haha.

I don't want to violate my NDA, but I can also tell you the film is locked and everything we've seen does have THE PHANTOM THREAD label on it.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on September 20, 2017, 08:12:07 PM



Ok. I can imagine PTA giggling while writing Woodcock and deciding to keep it.




This was my response as well, haha.

I don't want to violate my NDA, but I can also tell you the film is locked and everything we've seen does have THE PHANTOM THREAD label on it.

Any word on a possible trailer release? And where did you hear this from?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jviness02 on September 20, 2017, 08:33:41 PM



Ok. I can imagine PTA giggling while writing Woodcock and deciding to keep it.




This was my response as well, haha.

I don't want to violate my NDA, but I can also tell you the film is locked and everything we've seen does have THE PHANTOM THREAD label on it.

Any word on a possible trailer release? And where did you hear this from?

Looks like the trailer will drop next month and I legally can't really say anything about how I know this, which sounds like a cop out. Completely understandable to question my posts. I take no offense.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: ono on September 21, 2017, 12:45:24 AM
Biggest reason I'm dubious outside of lack of details, is that all the rumors state this is PTA doing Mike Leigh, so I'm anticipating more intimate footage
PTA doing Leigh?  So there.  There anyway.  Day-Lewis as Thewlis?  Yes, please!  Kinda rolls off your tongue.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Vicko99 on September 21, 2017, 01:19:32 PM
Alright, I know how bad this looks, being a first time poster posting SPOILER details, but I can tell you that DDL's character is named Reynolds Woodcock(classic Paul), the film is mostly about an artist and his muse and it has a "Gothic, moody" vibe. Based on what I know, this reddit poster may be telling the truth.
Can you confirm (or deny) this rumoured plot:
Spoilers- DDL plays a pretty misogynist fashion designer who meets a young model, falls in love, and she hooks him onto drugs and they develop some sort of master-slave relationship, with him as the submissive.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Cloudy on September 21, 2017, 02:51:48 PM
keep getting these psh related feelings from this one, before even knowing what it is
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Gold Trumpet on September 21, 2017, 06:07:49 PM
I have a feeling Phantom Thread is going to stick as a title.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jviness02 on September 21, 2017, 10:21:56 PM
Alright, I know how bad this looks, being a first time poster posting SPOILER details, but I can tell you that DDL's character is named Reynolds Woodcock(classic Paul), the film is mostly about an artist and his muse and it has a "Gothic, moody" vibe. Based on what I know, this reddit poster may be telling the truth.
Can you confirm (or deny) this rumoured plot:
Spoilers- DDL plays a pretty misogynist fashion designer who meets a young model, falls in love, and she hooks him onto drugs and they develop some sort of master-slave relationship, with him as the submissive.

I honestly don't know. All I was told was it focused on the relationship between an artist and his muse. That can obviously mean a ton of things.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Sleepless on September 22, 2017, 09:16:08 AM
If Paul's still looking for a title, maybe The Distressmaker would fit?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on September 22, 2017, 09:45:44 AM
I'd go with Fifty Dicks of Shade.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Sleepless on September 22, 2017, 10:53:16 AM
It'd be a reference only appreciated in the UK (http://www.marksandspencer.com/), by how about S&M&S
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Sleepless on September 22, 2017, 11:13:14 AM
They need to release something soon otherwise I'm going to continue making really bad puns.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on September 22, 2017, 05:48:04 PM
Alright, I know how bad this looks, being a first time poster posting SPOILER details, but I can tell you that DDL's character is named Reynolds Woodcock(classic Paul), the film is mostly about an artist and his muse and it has a "Gothic, moody" vibe. Based on what I know, this reddit poster may be telling the truth.
Can you confirm (or deny) this rumoured plot:
Spoilers- DDL plays a pretty misogynist fashion designer who meets a young model, falls in love, and she hooks him onto drugs and they develop some sort of master-slave relationship, with him as the submissive.

I honestly don't know. All I was told was it focused on the relationship between an artist and his muse. That can obviously mean a ton of things.

Is it screening at AFI or Fantastic Fest? Also, are the rumors that DDL assisted in story and producer also true?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jenkins on September 22, 2017, 05:56:44 PM
this is known of AFI Fest --

AFI Fest is an awards season launchpad, just 'cause it's in LA
Ridley Scott's 'All The Money In The World' will premiere
a major opening and closing premiere always take place
Spielberg and Linklater also have movies coming out
IV played AFI fest during its release year, but not as a premiere, which premiere occurred at the NY Film Festival
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on September 22, 2017, 06:53:47 PM
this is known of AFI Fest --

AFI Fest is an awards season launchpad, just 'cause it's in LA
Ridley Scott's 'All The Money In The World' will premiere
a major opening and closing premiere always take place
Spielberg and Linklater also have movies coming out
IV played AFI fest during its release year, but not as a premiere, which premiere occurred at the NY Film Festival

Linklater is opening NYFF, and the film releases Nov 3rd.

Spielberg's film is a possibility but it's still unknown if it's finished yet. Could just skip all fests.

Eastwood has a new film and he/WB really enjoy AFI, so secret screening is in the cards, but it still might not even release in 2017.

AFI opens Nov 9th and the film has yet to announce. Not many others are possible. Murder on Orient Express opens the next day on Nov 10, so it's unlikely to be the opener.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jenkins on September 22, 2017, 07:32:05 PM
i can't imagine they'd want to play a film which receives a wide release during the festival dates, in re to Murder on Orient at AFI. is NYFF all booked? and there's the other one, some other big festival which i can't currently remember, and might be a possibility.

i'd wanted Linklater :/
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on September 22, 2017, 08:07:35 PM
I would love if he did those random popup roadshows like he did for Master and Vice
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on September 22, 2017, 08:36:21 PM
https://twitter.com/jasonosia/status/911394210984681472

Quote
Jason‏
@jasonosia
There's a rumor going around the forumsphere the new PTA is Picture Locked. Where could it premiere? Fantastic Fest? NYFF secret screening?

https://twitter.com/kylebuchanan/status/911398746805592064

Quote
Kyle Buchanan‏Verified account
@kylebuchanan
Replying to @jasonosia
I've heard this too

NYFF is apparently out of the question, but it's nice to have confirmation that indeed the movie is coming along nicely and seemingly locked!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: ono on September 22, 2017, 11:40:31 PM
Good possibility that this place started the rumor.  Heh.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on September 25, 2017, 12:37:07 PM
Annapurna is releasing Wonder Woman biopic film on Oct 13th, and Annapurna was involved with this so I'm keeping my eye out for a trailer around then
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: WorldForgot on September 25, 2017, 12:47:23 PM
Annapurna is releasing Wonder Woman biopic film on Oct 13th, and Annapurna was involved with this so I'm keeping my eye out for a trailer around then

That would make for a sexy double... Let's hope!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on September 28, 2017, 01:40:03 PM
Update on film.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/oscar-futures-is-blade-runner-2049-a-major-contender.html

Under the Best supporting actress category, he writes that Manville and Krieps are very good in the film.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: ono on October 04, 2017, 09:56:46 PM
https://twitter.com/cigsandredvines/status/915715671803224064

Pretty sure we already knew it was Christmas.  Mentioned somewhere in this thread.  A nice little tweet to heighten anticipation.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 05, 2017, 12:48:29 AM
https://twitter.com/cigsandredvines/status/915715671803224064

Pretty sure we already knew it was Christmas.  Mentioned somewhere in this thread.  A nice little tweet to heighten anticipation.

Yeah, it was announced as a Christmas Day release several months ago.  The title has been in doubt, but not the release date.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: csage97 on October 05, 2017, 10:39:34 AM
I can't wait for a trailer! My hopes are up for a mid or late October trailer release.

P.S. I think the title Phantom Thread is great, and I hope it sticks. I think it's one of the most interesting titles for a film to come along in a while ....
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on October 05, 2017, 12:07:56 PM
I can't wait for a trailer! My hopes are up for a mid or late October trailer release.

P.S. I think the title Phantom Thread is great, and I hope it sticks. I think it's one of the most interesting titles for a film to come along in a while ....

Hopefully the trailer releases next week with the release of the Annapurna-produced wonder woman movie. If it's not next week, then we might have to wait until the snowman, which is universal produced.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: KJ on October 06, 2017, 05:59:55 PM
Stupid question this maybe, but is it confirmed that Lesley Manville plays the partner of DDL?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lewton on October 07, 2017, 10:01:01 PM
I probably won't watch the teaser or any of the trailers, but I'm looking forward to the poster!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Larry on October 12, 2017, 11:26:02 AM
trailer wont come till december.. too much hype already
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 12, 2017, 02:07:37 PM
And a strictly rumor-level, totally unconfirmed run time:

https://twitter.com/OscarPredictor/status/918236928369201152
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on October 12, 2017, 03:29:41 PM
And a strictly rumor-level, totally unconfirmed run time:

https://twitter.com/OscarPredictor/status/918236928369201152

I think it will be shorter than usual.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on October 12, 2017, 03:54:50 PM
It would be nice for at least a still from the movie if we aren't  going to get a trailer anytime soon   :yabbse-angry:
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 12, 2017, 11:21:44 PM
I believe this is the blog post that started the 195-minute run time rumor:

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2017/10/long-throwing-rumors-around/

But what's interesting is that the first paragraph seems to have been severely edited.     A cached version reveals:

Quote
A guy who knows nothing says that the running time on Paul Thomas Anderson‘s Phantom Thread has been hovering around 195 minutes, but that efforts are afoot to whittle it down to 165 or thereabouts. (A Focus Features spokesperson says “the film and runtime are not yet final, but it will definitely be shorter than that!”**) Again, this guy knows nothing — he’s just confiding what a guy he half-trusts has passed along, and that’s all. Not worth depositing. The same guy says that a full-boat trailer for Phantom Thread was recently test-screened or focus-grouped, and that the title given in this trailer was The Phantom Thread, which of course sounds godawful. I can’t emphasize how much I hate the unnecessary use of “the” in any context or capacity. I don’t even like the “the” in “the end” — I prefer “finis.”

[source]  https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_8ganVjmqVkJ:hollywood-elsewhere.com/2017/10/long-throwing-rumors-around/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 13, 2017, 01:26:25 AM
I had an interesting conversation this evening (via Twitter) with someone who's seen a "market tested trailer" (not exactly sure what that is) of The Phantom Thread.  (Perhaps he meant a "marketing test trailer" or "test marketing trailer"?

https://twitter.com/TheLollipopking/status/918194951036506113

Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: KJ on October 13, 2017, 07:44:07 AM
the master, the phantom thread... where are the amazing titles like punch-drunk love and there will be blood?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on October 13, 2017, 08:05:32 AM
I had an interesting conversation this evening (via Twitter) with someone who's seen a "market tested trailer" (not exactly sure what that is) of The Phantom Thread.  (Perhaps he meant a "marketing test trailer" or "test marketing trailer"?

https://twitter.com/TheLollipopking/status/918194951036506113

Doesn't PTA cut his own trailers? Then: selling the movie to our grandmas is the way to go.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: greenberryhill on October 13, 2017, 10:44:06 AM
Al Rose Promotions is having some trouble with the marketing of the film. :shock:
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on October 13, 2017, 12:38:40 PM
Well, I think it is offically called Phantom Thread.  Focus Features have put it back up on their website.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilder on October 13, 2017, 12:51:26 PM
This is going to make the PT vs PT abbreviation infuriating from now on
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 13, 2017, 01:53:04 PM

Doesn't PTA cut his own trailers? Then: selling the movie to our grandmas is the way to go.

Someone commented elsewhere that Warner Bros cut the "Inherent Vice" trailer in the US, but that PTA got to do his thing in the trailers that ran abroad.  (I thought the (US) Inherent Vice trailer abominable...)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 13, 2017, 01:55:59 PM
Well, I think it is offically called Phantom Thread.  Focus Features have put it back up on their website.

http://www.focusfeatures.com/phantom-thread/

Anyone else having trouble clicking on the link to "Sign up for 'Phantom Thread' film updates"?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on October 13, 2017, 02:04:52 PM

Doesn't PTA cut his own trailers? Then: selling the movie to our grandmas is the way to go.

Someone commented elsewhere that Warner Bros cut the "Inherent Vice" trailer in the US, but that PTA got to do his thing in the trailers that ran abroad.  (I thought the (US) Inherent Vice trailer abominable...)

I don't think so since the trailer is an hommage in a way to the trailer for the book. And Joanna Newsom is narrating the trailer. I think it's all PTA.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: WorldForgot on October 13, 2017, 02:28:10 PM
Jeff Wells brought up in Xixax... lol
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: polkablues on October 13, 2017, 03:06:08 PM
Let us quickly go back to forgetting that he exists or caring what he says.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 13, 2017, 03:24:01 PM
Jeff Wells brought up in Xixax... lol

Had no idea who that was.   Ooops.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: csage97 on October 13, 2017, 05:07:01 PM
the master, the phantom thread... where are the amazing titles like punch-drunk love and there will be blood?

I personally love Phantom Thread as a title ... although I agree that The Master as a title sucks. What's so bad about Phantom Thread?

Anyway, I hope the title confirmation is happening because a trailer is coming really soon.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 13, 2017, 07:59:40 PM

I personally love Phantom Thread as a title ... although I agree that The Master as a title sucks. What's so bad about Phantom Thread?

I'm agnostic about it--although in my mind it keeps evoking "Phantom Menace"--in fact, I've even typed that a few times when I meant "...Thread"
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: ono on October 13, 2017, 08:17:14 PM
This is going to make the PT vs PT abbreviation infuriating from now on
Maybe, maybe not.  He's always been PTA to me, so it won't be too much of an issue, I think.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lottery on October 13, 2017, 08:30:05 PM
Goddammit, I got excited and looked up the font not realising it's a generic font used across the website...It's from the Spectrum font family.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: axxonn on October 14, 2017, 05:21:24 AM
Not sure about the title.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Just Withnail on October 14, 2017, 06:52:45 AM
If the actual title card is something like this, I feel the title might be perfect:

(https://cinecdoque.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/16.jpg)

(https://twentyfourframes.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/touch-of-evil-title.jpg)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on October 14, 2017, 08:24:32 AM
But he's not Tarantino. He prefers time travel to nostalgia in terms of filmaking. I warmed up to the title; the word phantom is, after all, at the heart of his last movies. Nostalgia lives through the characters. It hurts and haunts.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: velociraptor on October 14, 2017, 02:31:52 PM
Love the title. I also love "The Master" as a title, though. Yeah, TWBB and PDL are more bombastic, but I don't think that makes them inherently (heeeheheehee) better.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on October 14, 2017, 04:18:03 PM
hopefully trailer within next 2 weeks, I can't wait much longer!

Anyway, those 3hr+ rumors are nothing more than rumors: the film has been locked for a while now, so hopefully we start hearing word about screenings
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: csage97 on October 16, 2017, 10:09:08 AM
Hmmm ... it's Monday, prime trailer-posting day. They'd better post a trailer by noon California time or else ... or else ... I will be slightly upset!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on October 16, 2017, 10:22:10 AM
I remember wanting a trailer for Inherent Vice and it was dreadful, but, come on, we don't need it. And I won't watch this one. I don't want to have a peak to the mood/the look/anything. Let's happily wait for what is coming. It is coming. :)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: csage97 on October 16, 2017, 10:33:01 AM
I remember wanting a trailer for Inherent Vice and it was dreadful, but, come on, we don't need it. And I won't watch this one. I don't want to have a peak to the mood/the look/anything. Let's happily wait for what is coming. It is coming. :)

Yeah, I was being sarcastic (which is why I said, "slightly upset!"), but I guess sarcasm doesn't always come across well on the internet. PTA can take as much time as he wants with a trailer. He could even not release one at all and I'd be fine with that. :P But I do want a peak at the general tone and cinematography. I'm super excited for this one because the photography, direction, and story is ALL PTA. It's not often a film of this budget and quality gets made with all of these things overseen by one person. Plus Daniel Day Lewis .... Anyway, I'm off topic now.  :doh:
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 16, 2017, 02:27:48 PM
Part of me is really curious to see a trailer, but, yeah....if they didn't release one at all I'd be fine with that.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on October 16, 2017, 03:32:27 PM
Part of me is really curious to see a trailer, but, yeah....if they didn't release one at all I'd be fine with that.

You would be fine with absolutely no marketing? Hopefully, they release a trailer this week.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 16, 2017, 04:46:59 PM

You would be fine with absolutely no marketing? Hopefully, they release a trailer this week.

From my own personal perspective, yes, I would.  Now, of course they need to market the film, but if I was not allowed to see a trailer, etc, before actually watching the film?  Yeah, that'd be fine.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: polkablues on October 16, 2017, 04:49:49 PM
DANIEL DAY LEWIS
IN HIS FINAL ROLE EVER
PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON'S EROTIC MASTERPIECE
PHANTOM THREAD

The marketing writes itself, and barely even has to give us a glimpse of the actual movie. The fact that we're not already seeing DDL's face plastered on every wall in New York and LA means everyone involved in releasing this movie is allergic to both money and Oscars.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: KJ on October 18, 2017, 12:49:49 PM
Did the inherent vice script leak beforehand? Or is this the first PTA script since PDL that hasn't leaked?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilder on October 18, 2017, 01:20:57 PM
If memory serves, I don’t think the IV script was available until it was uploaded officially for awards consideration.

Edit - Yeah (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=13100.msg338753#msg338753). February 2015
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on October 18, 2017, 04:47:09 PM
I don't know if it is official or not but a Twitter page and Facebook page was created for Phantom Thread.  Hopefully, a trailer drops tomorrow  :shock:
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: chere mill on October 19, 2017, 11:23:37 AM
The Film Stage just tweeted "The first trailer for Paul Thomas Anderson's #PhantomThread has been finished and runs 2 minutes & 16 seconds. Check back soon."

Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 19, 2017, 02:27:04 PM
The Film Stage just tweeted "The first trailer for Paul Thomas Anderson's #PhantomThread has been finished and runs 2 minutes & 16 seconds. Check back soon."

Some of the replies are fun:  https://twitter.com/TheFilmStage/status/920978422398115840
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on October 19, 2017, 04:59:43 PM
https://twitter.com/Phantom_Thread
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: greenberryhill on October 19, 2017, 06:34:22 PM
The Facebook page is verified now:

https://www.facebook.com/PhantomThread/

Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: KJ on October 19, 2017, 08:56:45 PM
i'm going to bed soon. see you in the morning, trailer.

(please work)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on October 20, 2017, 01:58:36 PM
Well, I guess we have to wait another week.  :yabbse-angry:
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 20, 2017, 07:14:14 PM
Costume Designer Mark Bridges discusses Phantom Thread in the Sept/Oct 2017 issue of Film Comment Magazine.

https://twitter.com/ManuYanezM/status/921423111974727680
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: greenberryhill on October 20, 2017, 07:31:13 PM
New info about the movie!!!!  The "Phantom Thread" facebook page just posted this:

Set in the glamour of 1950’s post-war London, renowned dressmaker Reynolds Woodcock (Daniel Day-Lewis) and his sister Cyril (Lesley Manville) are at the center of British fashion, dressing royalty, movie stars, heiresses, socialites, debutants and dames with the distinct style of The House of Woodcock. Women come and go through Woodcock’s life, providing the confirmed bachelor with inspiration and companionship, until he comes across a young, strong-willed woman, Alma (Vicky Krieps), who soon becomes a fixture in his life as his muse and lover. Once controlled and planned, he finds his carefully tailored life disrupted by love. With his latest film, Paul Thomas Anderson paints an illuminating portrait both of an artist on a creative journey, and the women who keep his world running. Phantom Thread is Paul Thomas Anderson’s eighth movie, and his second collaboration with Daniel Day-Lewis.
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Post by: BigSock on October 20, 2017, 07:54:23 PM
I came here to post the exact same thing  :)

Those Woodcock rumors from a few pages back turn out to be true!
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Post by: budwillies on October 20, 2017, 08:07:23 PM
Guys, check out imdb for the ratings guide as well. It says it may be rated pg 13. We are getting close!!!!
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Post by: Vicko99 on October 20, 2017, 08:46:00 PM
Imdb is full of shit. Ddl character still figure as charles james.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 20, 2017, 09:07:37 PM
New info about the movie!!!!  The "Phantom Thread" facebook page just posted this

Why don't I see it there anywhere?  All I see is the "Coming Soon" post from the 17th...
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Post by: jviness02 on October 20, 2017, 09:28:44 PM
New info about the movie!!!!  The "Phantom Thread" facebook page just posted this:

Set in the glamour of 1950’s post-war London, renowned dressmaker Reynolds Woodcock (Daniel Day-Lewis) and his sister Cyril (Lesley Manville) are at the center of British fashion, dressing royalty, movie stars, heiresses, socialites, debutants and dames with the distinct style of The House of Woodcock. Women come and go through Woodcock’s life, providing the confirmed bachelor with inspiration and companionship, until he comes across a young, strong-willed woman, Alma (Vicky Krieps), who soon becomes a fixture in his life as his muse and lover. Once controlled and planned, he finds his carefully tailored life disrupted by love. With his latest film, Paul Thomas Anderson paints an illuminating portrait both of an artist on a creative journey, and the women who keep his world running. Phantom Thread is Paul Thomas Anderson’s eighth movie, and his second collaboration with Daniel Day-Lewis.

Still can't really say how I got this information, but this is the synopsis I got to read a while back when I dropped the Woodcock rumors. Excited for the trailer to come out.
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Post by: Lottery on October 20, 2017, 09:31:39 PM
New info about the movie!!!!  The "Phantom Thread" facebook page just posted this

Why don't I see it there anywhere?  All I see is the "Coming Soon" post from the 17th...

It's in the "About" section/tab.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 20, 2017, 09:56:11 PM
It's in the "About" section/tab.

Ah.  I didn't go back far enough in my timeline....
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Post by: Rooty Poots on October 20, 2017, 10:25:59 PM
I set Phantom Thread’s Facebook page to notify me of any new postings, and in my notifications it showed they posted a link—but as soon as I clicked the notification, they’d already deleted it. Anyone know what it was?
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Post by: Fitzroy on October 21, 2017, 03:16:56 AM
Synopsis from the Film Stage


(POTENTIAL SPOILER?)


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Set in the glamour of 1950s post-war London, renowned dressmaker Reynolds Woodcock (Daniel Day-Lewis) and his sister Cyril (Lesley Manville) are at the center of British fashion, dressing royalty, movie stars, heiresses, socialites, debutants and dames with the distinct style of The House of Woodcock. Women come and go through Woodcock’s life, providing the confirmed bachelor with inspiration and companionship, until he comes across a young, strong-willed woman, Alma (Vicky Krieps), who soon becomes a fixture in his life as his muse and lover. Once controlled and planned, he finds his carefully tailored life disrupted by love. With his latest film, Paul Thomas Anderson paints an illuminating portrait both of an artist on a creative journey, and the women who keep his world running. Phantom Thread is Paul Thomas Anderson’s eighth movie, and his second collaboration with Daniel Day-Lewis.

https://thefilmstage.com/news/full-synopsis-unveiled-for-paul-thomas-andersons-phantom-thread/

No indication as to their source on this.
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Post by: WorldForgot on October 21, 2017, 03:47:06 AM
The source is indicated in the posts before yourz
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Post by: Fitzroy on October 21, 2017, 03:59:18 AM
Ha, didn't see the couple of posts on the previous page. Thanks! :doh:
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Post by: BigSock on October 21, 2017, 04:38:31 PM
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The Oscar Predictor‏ @OscarPredictor  12h12 hours ago
My friend loved Phantom Thread's (almost finished) cut 😎

Pol‏ @floydm100  8h8 hours ago
Are the 50 shades rumors true..?

The Oscar Predictor‏
@OscarPredictor
Replying to @floydm100
Yes.

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Lorenzo Ciorcalo‏ @rotovisor  12h12 hours ago
Replying to @OscarPredictor
Run time?

The Oscar Predictor‏ @OscarPredictor  12h12 hours ago
Shorter than you think.

https://twitter.com/OscarPredictor/status/921665406795952128
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Post by: Drenk on October 21, 2017, 05:05:54 PM
I had a feeling it would be shorter than usual. But I hope it will be at least 2 hours. Because I am greedy. Then: the running time fits the movie.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 21, 2017, 06:58:37 PM
Wait.  What...?

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Anderson and Day-Lewis were very secretive while shooting the film, and for months plot details were only rumors. Phantom Thread was thought just to be a working title. This summer, Day-Lewis boosted some of the rumors by saying that he was retiring from acting after this film to become a dressmaker, after falling in love with the craft while making this movie.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/10/daniel-day-lewis-phantom-thread-details
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Post by: wilberfan on October 21, 2017, 09:25:31 PM
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...but Anderson fans are as interested in narrative as they are Anderson’s visual signature, his sense of composition and movement within a frame. The biggest surprises in his films tend not to be turning points in the plot but in, say, the way he holds on a close-up of Joaquin Phoenix‘s rabid dog of a man in The Master or Mark Wahlberg‘s inept porn star in Boogie Nights. That can’t be ruined, and it’s what makes the wait for Phantom Thread‘s release on December 25th all the more unbearable.

http://collider.com/phantom-thread-synopsis/
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Post by: csage97 on October 21, 2017, 10:21:22 PM
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...but Anderson fans are as interested in narrative as they are Anderson’s visual signature, his sense of composition and movement within a frame. The biggest surprises in his films tend not to be turning points in the plot but in, say, the way he holds on a close-up of Joaquin Phoenix‘s rabid dog of a man in The Master or Mark Wahlberg‘s inept porn star in Boogie Nights. That can’t be ruined, and it’s what makes the wait for Phantom Thread‘s release on December 25th all the more unbearable.

http://collider.com/phantom-thread-synopsis/

To me, this really is the crux of my enjoying the film. In other hands, I could see what the plot synopsis describes (quoted a few posts back) being really interesting and enjoyable, but from PTA's pen, dare I say it does sound boring .... I'm hoping I'm wrong about the outcome. But what I'm most looking forward to are the character drawings, the actors who bring them alive, PTA's cinematography, and his framing and camera movement choices that he uses to tell the story.
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Post by: KJ on October 22, 2017, 12:37:53 AM
this story, as the synopsis reads now, draws me in more then inherent vice, the master and even most of his other stuff. I like fashion and I like sex (duh), and I'm really interested in seeing this world through the eyes of PTA. one of the characters on the IMDB page is "Chelsea Arts club New years eve party guest". that's the movie scene i'm looking forward to most, even though I don't know anything about it. it sounds so promising, and when I imagine it it's beautiful. the short description of Alma (a young, strong-willed woman) is intriguing too, and I really want to know more about that character. it might be a chance to make an interesting and fascinating female character, which is something I miss sometimes in PTA films

when people compare it to fifty shades of gray, I honestly believe that it sounds like the best thing ever. sex is something he hasn't explored before (except for boogie nights of course, but that's not really about sex, not real sex anyway). punch-drunk love is a love story of course, but that film is so unsexual and pure and almost childish. now I want to see this film, and this love story, and how it explore their passions and longings, and see what they get turned on by, and how they fuck each other, and how that make them feel.
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Post by: KJ on October 22, 2017, 01:40:41 AM
you're grasping at straws.

I don't know how you came to the conclusion that he isn't passionate about it just because DDL had some hand in it. so PTA liked some of his ideas, and brought them into the film? doesn't mean anything.

shooting it himself must be something he just want to do. he may even, you know, feel passionately about it?
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Post by: Lottery on October 22, 2017, 01:40:56 AM
My big worry is ever since someone here heard that DDL had a strong hand in the story, I can't help but have a hunch that PTA isn't so passionate (for lack of a better term) about this one.

Well, he's big on collaboration. The Master had a fair bit of input from PSH, and he's work-shopped ideas with cast and crew in the past. Regarding the DoP stuff, perhaps he feels he's at the height of his powers technically and has the confidence to streamline his process.

I personally find the setting and ideas pretty cool- A PTA film set in the UK focusing on 1950s dressmaker is totally bonkers. I can understand how some might think the plot might need more meat but we'll see how things unfold. In any case, present day PTA is about the character as we all know.

I mean I have no idea what the movie will be like but I can't imagine PTA making a movie that he's not totally into making- he's writing/directing/producing/effectively being DoP.

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Post by: Gold Trumpet on October 22, 2017, 09:05:17 PM
Wait.  What...?

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Anderson and Day-Lewis were very secretive while shooting the film, and for months plot details were only rumors. Phantom Thread was thought just to be a working title. This summer, Day-Lewis boosted some of the rumors by saying that he was retiring from acting after this film to become a dressmaker, after falling in love with the craft while making this movie.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/10/daniel-day-lewis-phantom-thread-details

Word of this has been out for a little while. Albeit in rumor form before.

Day-Lewis has been talking retirement for years. He falls in love with physical crafts (like being a cobbler) and while I'm sure he means retirement as he says it now, who knows if it holds. I will bet against it.
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Post by: budwillies on October 23, 2017, 09:01:01 AM
Trailer is out!
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Post by: Drenk on October 23, 2017, 09:03:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNsiQMeSvMk
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Post by: budwillies on October 23, 2017, 09:11:12 AM
I'm excited. The cinematography looks stunning.
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Post by: Drenk on October 23, 2017, 09:16:12 AM
I am not watching the trailer. Is it good? Because that poster makes me think that PTA doesn't care about promoting this movie...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM1Au8OU8AEC2Pm.jpg)
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Post by: Lottery on October 23, 2017, 09:28:16 AM
It's certainly not Was There A Fight but I've watched it a few times and I quite like it. It's surprisingly restrained and refined and kinda tense. If it's as weird as some have said, they're really keeping it as a surprise. Very different to what we've seen before from PTA.
Gorgeous Greenwood music as expected.
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Post by: Lottery on October 23, 2017, 09:41:28 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM1Au8OU8AEC2Pm.jpg)

Huh, just noticed. R for language only. Very curious.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 09:43:28 AM
Only one viewing so far.  I'm not cringing or rolling my eyes or confused.  It does look gorgeous.  I like that the female lead isn't conventionally, model-stunningly gorgeous (at least by our modern standards).

[edit] 2nd Viewing.  Some mild goosebumps this time.  It certainly seems to be about the shifting nature of their relationship/personal dynamic.  (But, of course, the Inherent Vice trailer told us that film was a goofy, irreverent comedy, so...)  :ponder:
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 09:50:57 AM
Fun watching the #PhantomThread hashtag posts streaming by in TweetDeck at the moment...  :)

[edit] And in multiple languages...!
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Post by: martinthewarrior on October 23, 2017, 09:52:55 AM
cinematography looks very... flat.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 10:04:18 AM
Thought this was an interesting reaction. 

https://twitter.com/luv_2read/status/922476086344105985
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Post by: martinthewarrior on October 23, 2017, 10:07:02 AM
Oh God.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 10:10:08 AM
Already read a couple of tweets calling this film "problematic" just from the trailer.

Did these people ever take into consideration that the age difference might be crucial to the plot?

Exactly.  And the (suggestion?) he might be closeted...
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Post by: modage on October 23, 2017, 10:11:46 AM
Thought this was an interesting reaction. 

https://twitter.com/luv_2read/status/922476086344105985

I haven't watched the trailer yet but don't be surprised when PTA gets run through the 2017 Woke Filter.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 10:13:37 AM
The reaction to the trailer just now from a female friend of mine who tolerates my PTA-obsessiveness:  "I'd go see that movie..."
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Post by: martinthewarrior on October 23, 2017, 10:15:11 AM
Already read a couple of tweets calling this film "problematic" just from the trailer.

Did these people ever take into consideration that the age difference might be crucial to the plot?

no, because these people are boring.
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Post by: modage on October 23, 2017, 10:17:36 AM
Update: Watched the trailer. PTA enters his Merchant Ivory phase?
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Post by: martinthewarrior on October 23, 2017, 10:18:19 AM
Update: Watched the trailer. PTA enters his Merchant Ivory phase?

A thought I had. God, I hope not.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 10:23:31 AM
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I haven't watched the trailer yet but don't be surprised when PTA gets run through the 2017 Woke Filter.

Fucking agree. Don't mean to sound like a pretentious gatekeeper on all things PTA but it's just sad that he has to exist and make movies in the current media landscape. Also, I'm stealing the phrase "woke filter".

LOL. I immediately thought of the shitstorm that "Life of Brian" created with conservatives (and others) who (of course) hadn't seen the film.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 10:28:55 AM
Lest we forget that Editing is All, an exchange I had this morning with @TheLollipopking who had seen a "test" trailer a month or so ago: 

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Woah!! This is not the trailer I saw at all!

The middle has a lot of shots I recognize & feels familar, but the entire tone is totally different.

When I compared it to something like Carol....the one I saw had a lot more Christmas scenes, where she's wearing the red gown.

The scenes in the beginning and the end don't look familar at all.

The moment where she asks why he's never been married had a completely different feel.

The way they framed that scene in the trailer I saw, I thought she was an assistant who was very infatuated with him, and was too naive...

To realize he was gay and still in the closet.

This trailer shows much more of an actual relationship, rather than a mentor/pupil relationship the one I saw implied.

Yeah, I think I mentioned it before, but I thought it was an unrequited love scenario. She being infatuated, but DDL merely having affection

[edit] It will be interesting to see how "accurate" this trailer is.  How revealing of the nuances, story, etc are in the actual finished edit.  This might be pure marketing?  Specifically, for example, to get non-PTA-fanboy butts in theater seats?
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 10:31:05 AM
Update: Watched the trailer. PTA enters his Merchant Ivory phase?

Good one.  Seems unlikely, but made me laugh...
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Post by: Lottery on October 23, 2017, 10:32:52 AM
Obviously I don't know the contents of the film but this looks positively mild in comparison to...almost everything he's made before. If folks are looking for 'problematic', they have a rich 20 year career they can explore.
I'd like to think that PTA's stuff is (generally) about people with issues, in rough spots and observing them without judgement.


Update: Watched the trailer. PTA enters his Merchant Ivory phase?
Ha!
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 10:40:49 AM

I'd like to think that PTA's stuff is (generally) about people with issues, in rough spots and observing them without judgement.

Love that.  It's one of my favorite things (from a long list) about Boogie Nights. 
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on October 23, 2017, 10:41:18 AM
Looks good. Anderson seems back to being relaxed in camera movement for casual scenes. Seems like he is combining slower paced tone of his recent historical films with techniques that flooded his early films. I doubt he ever makes a film that tries to be Magnolia or Boogie Nights again, but I think that's a good thing too.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 10:48:38 AM
I doubt he ever makes a film that tries to be Magnolia or Boogie Nights again, but I think that's a good thing too.

I doubt it, too--but I'd love to see a late-career return to that kind of youthful energy.  Just to prove he could still pull it off.
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Post by: Fernando on October 23, 2017, 10:49:06 AM
I love the trailer although it showed too much for my taste, I kind of expected a trailer in the fashion of EWS.

Anyway, my anticipation for this movie has skyrocketed.

That poster is so bland tbh.


Thought this was an interesting reaction. 

https://twitter.com/luv_2read/status/922476086344105985

I hear her but that is the reality of that world.
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Post by: budwillies on October 23, 2017, 10:53:58 AM
So when do you think it will be shown to critics? Late November? Do you think this will make any festivals?
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Post by: Drenk on October 23, 2017, 11:04:02 AM
I don't have a twitter. Can someone check what 3 accounts @phantom_thread is following now? It was following 0 yesterday.

The usual. Universal. Annapurna. Focus Features.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 11:04:53 AM
I love the trailer although it showed too much for my taste, I kind of expected a trailer in the fashion of EWS.

Anyway, my anticipation for this movie has skyrocketed.

That poster is so bland tbh.


Thought this was an interesting reaction. 

https://twitter.com/luv_2read/status/922476086344105985

I hear her but that is the reality of that world.

Poster doesn't feel bland to me.  I got kind of a "classy" vibe off of it.  And, yes, the reality of THE world is that older men are often attracted to younger women (and vice-versa).
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Post by: Bleep on October 23, 2017, 11:07:43 AM
Alexander McQueen sewed secret obscene scribblings (phrases and pictures) into the linings of garments he worked on during his time as an apprentice at Anderson & Sheppard back in the late 1980s. (See Andrew Wilson's biography, p. 50.)
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on October 23, 2017, 11:08:30 AM
By the way, this does look very much like a Mike Leigh film. The rumor about PTA doing Mike Leigh may be correct.

I wondered that, but I'm not going there. A period piece featuring a small technical crew is generally going to look a certain way. Mike Leigh and Ken Loach have made a career of doing those kind of films. They flooded the market for standards when it come to independent British filmmaking.
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Post by: Drenk on October 23, 2017, 11:13:53 AM
By the way, this does look very much like a Mike Leigh film. The rumor about PTA doing Mike Leigh may be correct.

I wondered that, but I'm not going there. A period piece featuring a small technical crew is generally going to look a certain way. Mike Leigh and Ken Loach have made a career of doing those kind of films. They flooded the market for standards when it come to independent British filmmaking.

Yes. I have seen the first two frames of the trailer and it looked like a PTA movie to me. In England.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 11:18:15 AM
It doesn't reveal too much of the plot.

Or does it?   :ponder:
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Post by: Drenk on October 23, 2017, 11:20:35 AM
Yes. I have seen the first two frames of the trailer and it looked like a PTA movie to me. In England.

LMAO just watch the trailer dude. It doesn't reveal too much of the plot.

No? And I saw them because it begins automatically on Twitter. I don't like to let my mind beginning to fill the holes with a trailer especially for a Paul Thomas Anderson movie—these rare gems. I imagined a whole part about Freddy's time in the war for The Master because of the trailers and teasers and was disappointed in a totally irrational way. I don't care about the plot.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 11:23:44 AM
It doesn't reveal too much of the plot.

Or does it?   :ponder:

Deceptive trailer for sure. Just to lure the mainstream audiences. Remember the Inherent Vice trailer?
Kinda has a Downton Abbey feel to it LOL.

Yes.  "Downton Abbey".  "The Crown".  Should definitely get the over-50 crowd into the theaters...or at least get their attention.
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Post by: convalescent_k on October 23, 2017, 11:28:13 AM
looks great.  understated in a sublime way.  also, stately as fuck.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 11:59:39 AM
"You can sew almost anything into the canvas of a coat.  When I was a boy, I started to hide things in the linings of the garments.  Things that only I knew were there.  Secrets."

Try this experiment:  Rewatch the trailer, holding the idea that Woodcock is a homosexual in 1950's London...  Every scene could be viewed as consistent with that.   

Or a total misdirect.
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 12:27:54 PM
And, yes, I've been making myself giggle by staring at that picture and intoning,

Rosebud...

 :yabbse-grin:
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Post by: KJ on October 23, 2017, 02:28:48 PM
i thought it would look a lot more "out there" considering inherent vice and the master, but i'm not getting that vibe from the trailer at all. maybe this is more low-key then I originally thought. there's some good moments, but nothing got me as exiting as the first the master teaser or twbb trailer.

also, hello oscars?
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Post by: WorldForgot on October 23, 2017, 02:39:02 PM
Maybe this illuminates that I am an incurable (delusional?) romantic, but this is looking to be my second favorite PTA concept yet. Inherent Vice did it for me, in a way I didn't know cinema could, the heart pangs and elusive memories. This is another beast. Closer to PDL's howl.

Maybe if There Will Be Blood and The Master were a couplet, this will match IV's romantic-haze in stark cuts and fine lines of lovers at odds.

Very excited for this Christmas.
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Post by: Drenk on October 23, 2017, 04:09:42 PM
It's not news that some people have seen it. I wouldn't care about what henry123 has to say, though.
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Post by: csage97 on October 23, 2017, 04:14:55 PM
It's different than what I'd envisioned in my mind's eye, but that was to be expected. A lot more white light than I thought there'd be. But I'm pleasantly surprised. It's unmistakably PTA-looking. It retains a lot of what The Master and Inherent Vice looked like but has less Robert Elswit and more recent music video PTA (obviously and understandably).
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on October 23, 2017, 04:21:29 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/henryturlingto1/status/922521145668263936

Thoughts on this thread? DDL is not the lead and the movie is "garbage"?

What Drenk said. I don't know if Twitter opinions are useful unless it's a first-hand account. This thread could get a bit cluttered with rumors and such if we obsess about that sort of thing.

Also, it looks like henry123 is an anti-Jewish crusader. (On Twitter of all places. Shocking.)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jviness02 on October 23, 2017, 04:55:29 PM
I've heard DDL is the lead, but you could argue they are "co-leads". This is from the same source I got the Reynolds Woodcock info.
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Post by: Vicko99 on October 23, 2017, 05:17:25 PM
I've heard DDL is the lead, but you could argue they are "co-leads". This is from the same source I got the Reynolds Woodcock info.
Tell us something more!!!!
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Post by: polkablues on October 23, 2017, 05:32:51 PM
If I was shown that trailer absent any foreknowledge or context, I would never guess it was a Paul Thomas Anderson film, and that fact excites me more than I can describe. The greatest filmmaker in the world is doing something he hasn't done before. Regardless of anyone's personal impressions of the trailer itself, if that doesn't give you a tingle, you should give up on movies altogether.
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Post by: ©brad on October 23, 2017, 05:45:25 PM
If I was shown that trailer absent any foreknowledge or context, I would never guess it was a Paul Thomas Anderson film, and that fact excites me more than I can describe. The greatest filmmaker in the world is doing something he hasn't done before. Regardless of anyone's personal impressions of the trailer itself, if that doesn't give you a tingle, you should give up on movies altogether.

Agreed. I'm kinda bummed about the lack of enthusiasm so far. Come on Xixax, do you know how rare a moment it is when a PTA trailer drops? It's almost as exciting as watching the film itself. We should be turned up to 11 right now. This was me when I first saw the trailer in my Facebook feed before immediately clicking over here.

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/dcb5a9fd171f4ebe637df658318e6ee9/tumblr_o1km8qMAXc1ra5yvko1_500.gif)

It's amazing how with every first viewing of a PTA trailer - this one included - you NEVER know what to expect. Most of your predictions are usually proven wrong (in a good way). I don't know how the man does it.
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Post by: jenkins on October 23, 2017, 06:22:20 PM
i really don't think there's much dispute toward Scorsese being the greatest living filmmaker. it's just kind of funny to say anyone else.
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Post by: BigSock on October 23, 2017, 06:27:13 PM
I've heard DDL is the lead, but you could argue they are "co-leads". This is from the same source I got the Reynolds Woodcock info.

Spill more details please  :shock: Do you have any word on the runtime of the film  :ponder:
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Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 06:27:32 PM
i really don't think there's much dispute toward Scorsese being the greatest living filmmaker. it's just kind of funny to say anyone else.

I think Scorsese's films are very often brilliant (Goodfellas can still melt my brain whenever I watch it), so I'll avoid the term "best" and say that PTA is my favorite living filmmaker.  My heart isn't broken if Marty makes a 'dud';  I'm still butthurt over Inherent Vice.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 06:50:17 PM
I've been scanning a lot of the online press about the trailer today.  It's interesting (and logical) that for the most part the headlines are about "Daniel Day-Lewis' Last Role!"--whereas my headline would be "Paul Thomas Anderson's Next Feature!"
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BB on October 23, 2017, 07:07:45 PM
I'm kinda bummed about the lack of enthusiasm so far. Come on Xixax, do you know how rare a moment it is when a PTA trailer drops? It's almost as exciting as watching the film itself. We should be turned up to 11 right now.

This is what I was getting at in the Blade Runner thread:

I feel like this movie raises an interesting question about the extent to which context matters when it comes to the quality of a film. To me, it's a MIRACLE given the modern studio system (if this does well and the general public demonstrates a taste for it, some real interesting films could get made), but agree that it's not perfect. Most movies of this scale don't even seem to try to try for perfect. And you never know what might have been studio mandated. The runtime almost definitely given that most people won't leave the house for anything less than two hours.

The same thing seems to be happening with The Florida Project, with people online getting pretty nit-picky. These are good films! Real deal adventurous, interesting films!

Have this persistent feeling that people -- even movie people -- are a little down on movies lately. PT looks exciting! Homie's name is Woodcock! Merchant-Ivory movies are great!

Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Sleepless on October 23, 2017, 07:41:44 PM
I had to give this some time to breathe in my brain. Wow. Looks amazing. Don't get the criticisms at all, unless it's simply not what people expected. I can understand that. But this isn't any M&I stuff - it's not even Terence Davies does M&I. It's PTA, period. The crescendoing music cut bluntly with the clip of the scissors on fabric, the rat-a-tat dialogue at the trailers end. Shivers! What about this looks like a happy, romantic love story? My take is that it's about the pursuit of perfection, something that is never attainable. A doomed desire for control. And, of course, much more, that we simply can't know from a brief trailer. Is Woodcock homosexual? Possibly. But I'm betting there's something more interesting than that here. After all, you can sew almost anything into the canvas of a coat. There's the promise of plenty of surprises. It gets better every time I watch it. Cannot fucking wait.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Bleep on October 23, 2017, 07:48:30 PM
"After all, you can sew almost anything into the canvas of a coat."

Nice line: and it brings us to what may be a meaning of the title. "Phantom Threads" are the secrets regarding the artist encoded in the artist's work. (Whether intentionally integrated, or unconsciously done, is irrelevant.)

Secrets that may be eventually revealed, or that may never come to light.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on October 23, 2017, 07:51:24 PM
The FYC Ad is up:

DDL is Leading, Krieps is Leading; Manville is Supporting

PTA is not listed for Cinematography

https://focusfeaturesguilds2017.com/categories/phantom-thread/
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 23, 2017, 07:56:19 PM
The FYC Ad is up:

DDL is Leading, Krieps is Leading; Manville is Supporting

PTA is not listed for Cinematography

https://focusfeaturesguilds2017.com/categories/phantom-thread/

Dammit.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: csage97 on October 23, 2017, 07:57:51 PM
I had to give this some time to breathe in my brain. Wow. Looks amazing. Don't get the criticisms at all, unless it's simply not what people expected. I can understand that. But this isn't any M&I stuff - it's not even Terence Davies does M&I. It's PTA, period. The crescendoing music cut bluntly with the clip of the scissors on fabric, the rat-a-tat dialogue at the trailers end. Shivers! What about this looks like a happy, romantic love story? My take is that it's about the pursuit of perfection, something that is never attainable. A doomed desire for control. And, of course, much more, that we simply can't know from a brief trailer. Is Woodcock homosexual? Possibly. But I'm betting there's something more interesting than that here. After all, you can sew almost anything into the canvas of a coat. There's the promise of plenty of surprises. It gets better every time I watch it. Cannot fucking wait.

I'm with you on this one. I was skeptical after the plot synopsis a couple days ago, but after seeing the trailer, it seems that there's tons of mystery and something strange woven into the story, just as the title and the music suggests. I was worried it would just be a stately basic love story, but I'm thinking and hoping there's going to be something more odd going on.

This frame is unmistakably PTA, by the way.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jenkins on October 23, 2017, 08:01:38 PM
The FYC Ad is up:

DDL is Leading, Krieps is Leading; Manville is Supporting

PTA is not listed for Cinematography

https://focusfeaturesguilds2017.com/categories/phantom-thread/

Dammit.

according to its imdb page, which was nodoubt inputted by the production company, PTA isn't credited as being the cinematographer. i'd go ahead and guess that means a nomination isn't possible.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: polkablues on October 23, 2017, 08:14:44 PM
according to its imdb page, which was nodoubt inputted by the production company, PTA isn't credited as being the cinematographer. i'd go ahead and guess that means a nomination isn't possible.

Most likely the result of Guild-related complexities concerning who can be credited how. If he chose to be credited as a pseudonym, like Soderbergh does for his cinematography, or the Coens for their editing, he could still be nominated (technically the pseudonym would get the nomination). I have no idea how nominations might work if there literally is no cinematographer credit on the film, or even if the ASC would allow it to be uncredited in that way.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: martinthewarrior on October 23, 2017, 08:45:47 PM
i really don't think there's much dispute toward Scorsese being the greatest living filmmaker. it's just kind of funny to say anyone else.

I think Scorsese's films are very often brilliant (Goodfellas can still melt my brain whenever I watch it), so I'll avoid the term "best" and say that PTA is my favorite living filmmaker.  My heart isn't broken if Marty makes a 'dud';  I'm still butthurt over Inherent Vice.

Except Inherent Vice is a masterpiece, so there's that.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: tpfkabi on October 23, 2017, 09:26:33 PM
I wonder if there will be some Vertigo vibes and there is also the use of the name, Alma.

The table shot makes me think of Barry Lyndon and some shots of EWS - maybe the Christmas decorations/stairs.

This reminded me of Jack White hiding vinyl records in the furniture he made pre-White Stripes.

"Women come and go through Woodcock’s life, providing the confirmed bachelor with inspiration and companionship, until he comes across a young, strong-willed woman, Alma (Vicky Krieps), who soon becomes a fixture in his life as his muse and lover. Once controlled and planned, he finds his carefully tailored life disrupted by love."

I wonder if PTA having a relationship with a comedienne will inform this at least a little bit indirectly.
As to 'more reserved socially' versus the opposite.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jviness02 on October 23, 2017, 10:15:36 PM
I wonder if there will be some Vertigo vibes and there is also the use of the name, Alma.

The table shot makes me think of Barry Lyndon and some shots of EWS - maybe the Christmas decorations/stairs.

This reminded me of Jack White hiding vinyl records in the furniture he made pre-White Stripes.

"Women come and go through Woodcock’s life, providing the confirmed bachelor with inspiration and companionship, until he comes across a young, strong-willed woman, Alma (Vicky Krieps), who soon becomes a fixture in his life as his muse and lover. Once controlled and planned, he finds his carefully tailored life disrupted by love."

I wonder if PTA having a relationship with a comedienne will inform this at least a little bit indirectly.
As to 'more reserved socially' versus the opposite.

Vertigo would be interesting, but the trailer seemed to have a call back to another Hitchcock classic when DDL was peering through that door...
(http://www.cultureontheoffensive.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/image-29.png)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on October 23, 2017, 10:17:41 PM
I absolutely love the logo design for the title that's used in the trailer, and it actually makes me like "Phantom Thread" a whole lot more. Wish that was used in all the marketing.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Rooty Poots on October 24, 2017, 02:01:59 AM
I absolutely love the logo design for the title that's used in the trailer, and it actually makes me like "Phantom Thread" a whole lot more. Wish that was used in all the marketing.

Really? I was so disappointed when I saw the type treatment for the titles a few months ago, but assumed it was just a temp treatment PTA used to give Dustin Stanton an idea of the feeling he wanted and would be eventually replaced with more professional type design. The ornamental swashes and odd, uneven lettering feels amateur and the least attractive of all of PTA's type treatments, to me. (That being said, this movie looks absolutely gorgeous. Just from the trailer, it looks like the shots may be more composed in general than the more seat-of-the-pants, improvisational look that much of Inherent Vice and even The Master had. And it looks like it'll transport me to a world I won't want to leave. I'd personally be very happy to hear a 194 minute runtime confirmed.)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jviness02 on October 24, 2017, 02:48:25 AM
I've heard DDL is the lead, but you could argue they are "co-leads". This is from the same source I got the Reynolds Woodcock info.

Spill more details please  :shock: Do you have any word on the runtime of the film  :ponder:

Longer than Sydney and PDL. Most likely shorter than everything else.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on October 24, 2017, 03:57:17 AM
I've heard DDL is the lead, but you could argue they are "co-leads". This is from the same source I got the Reynolds Woodcock info.

Spill more details please  :shock: Do you have any word on the runtime of the film  :ponder:

Longer than Sydney and PDL. Most likely shorter than everything else.

I grow more curious by the day as I salivate over these details! So about 120 minutes or so... interesting. Seems like a relatively more intimate, narratively straightforward film compared to the epic mosaics of his last 3.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on October 24, 2017, 07:43:18 AM
At least his Oscar for TWBB has been stolen by a great film.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Sleepless on October 24, 2017, 08:50:56 AM
(http://xixax.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=13512.0;attach=3563;image)

Because she's blocking the fucking screen.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: axxonn on October 24, 2017, 10:38:57 AM
I wonder if there will be some Vertigo vibes and there is also the use of the name, Alma.

The table shot makes me think of Barry Lyndon and some shots of EWS - maybe the Christmas decorations/stairs.

This reminded me of Jack White hiding vinyl records in the furniture he made pre-White Stripes.

"Women come and go through Woodcock’s life, providing the confirmed bachelor with inspiration and companionship, until he comes across a young, strong-willed woman, Alma (Vicky Krieps), who soon becomes a fixture in his life as his muse and lover. Once controlled and planned, he finds his carefully tailored life disrupted by love."

I wonder if PTA having a relationship with a comedienne will inform this at least a little bit indirectly.
As to 'more reserved socially' versus the opposite.

Vertigo would be interesting, but the trailer seemed to have a call back to another Hitchcock classic when DDL was peering through that door...
(http://www.cultureontheoffensive.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/image-29.png)

And the light on DDL's eye looks identical to the light on Phoenix in the final shot of Inherent Vice
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Fernando on October 24, 2017, 11:57:06 AM
I want PTA to win Oscars for best director and best screenplay at some point, but I have a feeling this one won't win him those. :(

Fuck the oscars, it's rare when the best film is even nominated. e.g. 2001, The Master
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: polkablues on October 24, 2017, 12:00:36 PM
When PTA finally wins his Oscars, it will be Scorsese-style: two decades late and for entirely the wrong movie.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on October 24, 2017, 12:03:53 PM
When PTA finally wins his Oscars, it will be Scorsese-style: two decades late and for entirely the wrong movie.

You mean: it will be for co-writing that Pinocchio movie for Downey Jr!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on October 24, 2017, 12:51:46 PM
Has there been any reactions to the film thus far? I know someone posted earlier that they talked to someone that said that it was "great and weird." Any early buzz?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jenkins on October 24, 2017, 01:29:06 PM
‘Phantom Thread’: Everything You Need to Know About Daniel Day-Lewis’ Final Movie (http://www.indiewire.com/2017/10/phantom-thread-details-spoilers-daniel-day-lewis-paul-thomas-anderson-vicky-krieps-1201890410/)

we know everything? not sure i've heard this part yet

Quote
According to IMDb, Anderson’s camera choices for “Phantom Thread” are identical to “Inherent Vice,” including the use of the Kodak Vision3 200T 5213 and the Vision3 500T 5219. Similar to his last feature, “Phantom Thread” will reportedly be presented in 35mm and blown-up 70mm in select locations.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 24, 2017, 03:14:19 PM
‘Phantom Thread’: Everything You Need to Know About Daniel Day-Lewis’ Final Movie (http://www.indiewire.com/2017/10/phantom-thread-details-spoilers-daniel-day-lewis-paul-thomas-anderson-vicky-krieps-1201890410/)

This made me laugh: 
Quote
"He previously served as cinematographer of his 1988 short, “The Dirk Diggler Story,”
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jviness02 on October 24, 2017, 08:21:22 PM
I've been told this film will probably be polarizing, perhaps even between fellow PTA fans and that DDL has a pretty low key performance in this. A great performance, but not the type that wins awards. People expecting a big theatrical exit for DDL will be disappointed.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on October 24, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
I've been told this film will probably be polarizing, perhaps even between fellow PTA fans and that DDL has a pretty low key performance in this. A great performance, but not the type that wins awards. People expecting a big theatrical exit for DDL will be disappointed.

What about the performances of Krieps or Manville

I don't expect this to get many awards nominations anyway outside of DDL and costume
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 24, 2017, 08:47:30 PM
What about the performances of Krieps or Manville

I don't expect this to get many awards nominations anyway outside of DDL and costume

If he hasn't sexually harrased anyone in the last twenty years, he may have a better shot at more awards.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: HACKANUT on October 25, 2017, 09:37:50 AM
I've been told this film will probably be polarizing, perhaps even between fellow PTA fans and that DDL has a pretty low key performance in this. A great performance, but not the type that wins awards. People expecting a big theatrical exit for DDL will be disappointed.

That's quite interesting. Sounds sort of akin to Isabelle Huppert's performance in The Piano Teacher. She emotes very very little but you end up being able to read her face front the smallest of movements. Like a white sheet a paper, you could identify any sized mark on it.

If DDL is going for this kind of subtlety I would be extremely happy.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Something Spanish on October 25, 2017, 04:57:18 PM
Phoenix was pretty low key in Vice compared to The Master and his performance as Doc is hands down one of my all-time favorites.

The Phantom trailer gives a slow-burn/low-key vibe, no outbursts like Hoffman shouting SHUT UP or Brolin barking moto panikaku or Day-Lewis' "there's a whole ocean of oil" snap, yet I still get chills each time I've played it. I still remember seeing the "One" teaser for Magnolia during a commercial break for the '99 MTV VMAs and in those 30-seconds I knew this movie would be like nothing I've ever seen. I'd just become addicted to watching Boogie Nights on VHS and couldn't believe that this writer/director's next movie would be what was shown in that little teaser. Practically every one of his trailers has had a similar effect, and this is no exception. Also as previously mentioned here, feels like a similar relationship to Dodd/Freddy only this time they actually make out and quite possibly fuck.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on October 25, 2017, 05:45:55 PM
I'd just become addicted to watching Boogie Nights on VHS and couldn't believe that this writer/director's next movie would be what was shown in that little teaser.

I've found my people.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Gold Trumpet on October 25, 2017, 07:25:45 PM
It's hard to tell so far. In the trailer, it definitely shows a story arc that could be main one in the film. When I think of what I see in the trailer and the look at the title, I imagine Phantom refers to the missing thread, the impossible one to get - a hallmark of someone's obsession in being perfect in their craft., this case making the perfect dress. DDL's character could also be trying to make the perfect girl through his dresses and failing. A story like that could go many routes and reach levels of intensity while still feeling subtle too. Should be interesting how it plays out.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilder on October 25, 2017, 07:30:18 PM
DDL's character could also be trying to make the perfect girl through his dresses and failing.

Wow that's interesting. I don't know that I see that in the trailer, but I love the idea.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Gold Trumpet on October 25, 2017, 07:35:53 PM
The idea comes from the hints of him trying to control her and she refusing to give in (even after she tells someone else he made her dreams come true and all she had to do was give him everything he desired). But he seems fascinated by her on first sight and it looks like it immediately leads to a muse relationship and he making dresses perfectly tailored for what idea he has of her.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on October 25, 2017, 07:47:11 PM
The synopsis seems to tell that his work becomes difficult after he's met her.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jenkins on October 25, 2017, 07:50:08 PM
a phantom thread isn't missing, it's imaginary. which doesn't contradict what's being said, but rather enforces it.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on October 26, 2017, 03:37:17 AM
His name is Woodcock, so I can picture something regarding impotency

Or possibly background of DDL is presented in a very open-ended fashion in a very subtle, subdued film which would result in the possible polarized reactions
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on October 26, 2017, 03:32:21 PM
Jonny posted this on Twitter

Quote
https://twitter.com/JnnyG/status/923641634960617473
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: HACKANUT on October 27, 2017, 08:26:45 AM
What do you think the general consensus for the movie would be? The trailer post on r/movies was mostly joke comments ("i knit your milkshake" etc.)

if I had to guess, I would assume most people will overlook this one, and those that dont will mostly be in it for DDL's last performance. But even those people will have to rethink their interest because it sounds like DDL is playing this one really reserved. all of these things excite me honestly. I want Paul to cut out a new swath of his style that upsets even the diehard's expectations, much like Inherent Vice and The Master did.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on October 27, 2017, 08:39:07 PM
To counter the polarizing notices, Vulture has published an article revealing this:

Quote
The luscious trailer for Paul Thomas Anderson’s fashion drama didn’t feature much of Manville, but I keep hearing glowing reactions to both her and the film, which early viewers are calling Anderson’s most accessible effort in years. The relatively unknown Vicky Krieps will have a tougher road in the Best Actress category if she’s positioned there as the love interest for Daniel Day-Lewis’s dressmaker, but Manville (playing his wary sister) offers another chance to recognize Phantom Thread in a less competitive race.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/10/how-will-the-harvey-weinstein-moment-affect-awards-season.html
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: d on October 28, 2017, 02:45:16 AM
Maybe it is obvious but having no clue about reading notes I wonder if the sheets posted by Greenwood are indeed one of the pieces used in the trailer. Has it been verified? If not PTA fans I guess that Radiohead fans have already played it and posted somewhere, right?

Speaking of which, Nigel Godrich tweeted yesterday with a link to the trailer:
Quote
This film is very beautiful and also has very beautiful music by @JnnyG bravo!

Not very revealing but I think that may be the first "official" opinion about Phantom Thread.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on October 28, 2017, 06:16:59 AM
Maybe it is obvious but having no clue about reading notes I wonder if the sheets posted by Greenwood are indeed one of the pieces used in the trailer. Has it been verified? If not PTA fans I guess that Radiohead fans have already played it and posted somewhere, right?

Speaking of which, Nigel Godrich tweeted yesterday with a link to the trailer:
Quote
This film is very beautiful and also has very beautiful music by @JnnyG bravo!

Not very revealing but I think that may be the first "official" opinion about Phantom Thread.

https://soundcloud.com/neutraltones-1/polysixphantomthread#t=0:00
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: HACKANUT on October 28, 2017, 10:17:54 AM
the software instruments sound a little wonky in parts but damn thats a great theme!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: barrydiggler on October 30, 2017, 05:29:58 PM
17:15 mark. SPOILERS if any of what is mentioned is true.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VdWP-ufV6E&feature=youtu.be&t=17m15s

Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on October 30, 2017, 08:14:26 PM
* MINOR SPOILER *

Sounds like we're in for a doozy of a polarizing ending  :bravo: Wonder if anyone here can spill the beans of what it entails
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: KJ on October 30, 2017, 11:45:48 PM
They are basically talking about what to expect from the ending, so don't watch it.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: KJ on October 30, 2017, 11:48:26 PM
He said Phantom Blood.

Phantom Thread confirmed fake title.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lottery on October 31, 2017, 01:22:30 AM
Let's avoid talking spoilers here and have a separate thread for spoiler discussions like usual.

He said Phantom Blood.
Phantom Thread confirmed fake title.
Or surprise PTA x JJBA crossover incoming.

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/phantom_blood.jpg)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 01, 2017, 03:53:56 PM
. Hope he does a couple of Marc Maron style 2 hour interviews for this movie.

I was (re-)listening to that episode a couple of weeks ago, and I had this exact thought--specifically the "Marc Maron-style" aspect.  I'm also feeling like I want to listen to his "Boogie Nights" commentary track again...
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 01, 2017, 04:43:14 PM
I'll gladly read and listen to everything he says, but he's the king at saying nothing of substance about his work. Which is a talent. He's playing the innocence card.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: KJ on November 01, 2017, 05:19:51 PM
I'll gladly read and listen to everything he says, but he's the king at saying nothing of substance about his work. Which is a talent. He's playing the innocence card.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0-R8rKfDrA
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 01, 2017, 05:41:12 PM
I must add that I am not waiting for a filmmaker  to say anything substantive about the work he's doing—because what's the point, if it works, if it's in the movie, then there is no need to say anything. In this one, he's at Cannes—obviously high—speaking to french TV, he's pleased because they liked the movie and says some interesting things about the process. But I remember how good he was at bullshiting when he was promoting The Master.

I'm curious to see if he will be asked why his last two original scripts are about some kind of twisted relationship between two "lovers". He'll probably respond: "Oh, now that you talk about it, I see how it looks that way!".
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on November 01, 2017, 06:42:34 PM
He started it around the PDL era, but really mastered it around the release of CMBB. In the Charlie Rose interview with him and DDL they just keep looking at each other and giggling and not giving him anything, its awesome.

His first three films he couldn't shut up about, especially Boogie Nights and Magnolia. I wonder if he just got sick of hearing himself talk, or tapped into the idea that people would respect him and the work more if he started playing the role of mysterious genius instead of hyperactive film nerd (which QT was already the king of).

There's something to Plainview's line about not wanting to explain himself that feels personal, it definitely coincided with his interview and filmmaking style becoming more and more elliptical.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jviness02 on November 02, 2017, 12:15:32 PM
http://ew.com/movies/2017/11/02/phantom-thread-paul-thomas-anderson-interview

First interview with Paul! No DP credited.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Sleepless on November 02, 2017, 12:58:00 PM
That's a good interview.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 02, 2017, 03:31:11 PM
I think we have another marquee moment for the site.

Quote
“Oh, god. Let’s do something with fancy people.”
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 02, 2017, 05:12:59 PM
Pure non-spoiler highlights:


"The film, quite simply, is not done."

"I know how to point the camera in a good direction, and I know a few things. But I’m not a director of photography."

"Then the process of writing it was really the two of us together, quite honestly. I’d give him things as I was writing. Rather than go away and write a script and try to impress him, I was collaborating with him each step of the way as I was going, which was very helpful in terms of forming the story and the character."
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 02, 2017, 05:28:13 PM
Who recently said that he was impressed by how much PTA knew about technical stuff? With The Master, I'm sure he was kind of his own DP already. The Master and IV look the same even if Elswit came back in between.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: axxonn on November 02, 2017, 05:53:56 PM
Who recently said that he was impressed by how much PTA knew about technical stuff? With The Master, I'm sure he was kind of his own DP already. The Master and IV look the same even if Elswit came back in between.

I don't agree.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Little Ronnie Howard on November 02, 2017, 06:04:19 PM
http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/news-features/TMG10275681/The-mysterious-Cristobal-Balenciaga.html

Quote from this article:

"Balenciaga did not appear at the openings of his collections. Nor did clients see him for fittings as a rule. He watched the shows from the doorway to the ateliers, peeking through a small hole in the curtains."

I guess the scene from the trailer where Reynolds is looking though a hole is directly taken from this article.

Also, Lesley Manville's character seems to be based on Mlle Renée, whose character is Reynolds' sister in the movie.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 02, 2017, 08:29:21 PM
http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/news-features/TMG10275681/The-mysterious-Cristobal-Balenciaga.html

What a fascinating article.  I especially enjoyed this:

Quote
For many, a Balenciaga show was the closest fashion gets to a religious experience. As the Vogue editor-in-chief Diana Vreeland put it, 'One fainted. It was possible to blow up and die. I remember at one show in the early 1960s… Audrey Hepburn turned to me and asked why I wasn't frothing at the mouth at what I was seeing. I told her I was trying to act calm and detached because, after all, I was a member of the press. Across the way Gloria Guinness was sliding out of her chair on to the floor. Everyone was going up in foam and thunder.'

There's another marquee quote:  "Everyone was going up in foam and thunder".   
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 02, 2017, 09:01:21 PM
Wonder if DDL will be wearing "himself" at the premiere?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: csage97 on November 02, 2017, 10:32:10 PM
Who recently said that he was impressed by how much PTA knew about technical stuff? With The Master, I'm sure he was kind of his own DP already. The Master and IV look the same even if Elswit came back in between.

They don't look the same at all.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: velociraptor on November 03, 2017, 09:31:02 AM
Important side observation on that EW article: PTA keeps getting better looking.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 03, 2017, 02:27:57 PM
Who recently said that he was impressed by how much PTA knew about technical stuff? With The Master, I'm sure he was kind of his own DP already. The Master and IV look the same even if Elswit came back in between.

They don't look the same at all.

Do people agree with me? I'm saying it as a gut feeling. Of course, IV has different colors, but there is a mood in the pictures that isn't only linked to his new directing style. But maybe I am wrong.

Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: DocSportello on November 03, 2017, 04:49:54 PM
“I’m a large aficionado of those large Gothic romance movies as the old masters might do them. What I like about those kinds of love stories is that they’re very suspenseful. A good dollop of suspense with a love story is a nice combination.”

Anybody care to take some guesses as to what films PTA might be referring to here? What are some good, large Gothic romance movies with a hint of suspense from old masters? I think I’ve got some catching up to do.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilder on November 03, 2017, 04:52:16 PM
He mentioned Rebecca (1940) in that very interview.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: DocSportello on November 03, 2017, 04:57:11 PM
Well, yes, caught that. Suppose I should have asked if anyone knows of any other large gothic romance movies with a hint of suspense from the old masters. I’ll google it.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilder on November 03, 2017, 05:04:53 PM
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls005169472/


Val Lewton fits. And I think he may have talked about George Cukor's Gaslight (1944) once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ToLfQU2xmg


Maybe Fritz Lang's Secret Beyond the Door (1947)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8PyGj8IFKI


And Joseph L. Mankiewicz's Dragonwyck (1946), which is coming to blu-ray from Twilight Time soon. Rebecca is straight up mentioned in its trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-HySznm0Sk

A simple Connecticut farm girl is recruited by a distant relative, an aristocratic patroon, to be governess to his young daughter in his Hudson Valley mansion.

For Miranda Wells (Gene Tierney), moving to New York to live in Dragonwyck Manor with her rich cousin, Nicholas (Vincent Price), seems like a dream. However, the situation gradually becomes nightmarish. She observes Nicholas' troubled relationship with his tenant farmers, as well as with his daughter (Connie Marshall), to whom Miranda serves as governess. Her relationship with Nicholas intensifies after his wife dies, but his mental imbalance threatens any hope of happiness.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on November 03, 2017, 09:03:32 PM
PTA confirmed those rumors from months ago that DDL was heavily involved during writing process
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lewton on November 04, 2017, 11:59:12 AM
I didn't watch the trailer but I heard there's a line about Woodcock threading secrets into the dresses he makes? I imagine someone else has already made this connection, but that recalls Freddie Quell mysteriously referring to the "secrets" that go into his alcoholic concoctions.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: csage97 on November 05, 2017, 12:03:35 PM
Who recently said that he was impressed by how much PTA knew about technical stuff? With The Master, I'm sure he was kind of his own DP already. The Master and IV look the same even if Elswit came back in between.

They don't look the same at all.

Do people agree with me? I'm saying it as a gut feeling. Of course, IV has different colors, but there is a mood in the pictures that isn't only linked to his new directing style. But maybe I am wrong.

OK, when talking about specifically just the "physical" look (the film stock, lighting choices), I would consider The Master and IV to be generally different. But then once we start talking about framing choices, mood, depth of costume design, etc., I think they do become similar in lots of respects (although IV did employ some handheld shots and things like that, unlike The Master). I DO definitely think there is overlap in some of the immediate shots. For example, in The Master, when Freddie is undergoing some testing (he's shown pictures and asked to say the first thing that comes to mind), he's sitting in a drab, sparsely furnished room. Doc's office in IV is a sparsely furnished, drab-colored old doctor's exam room. They look really similar across the films. (I consider this to be a pretty PTA touch because, in the book, Doc's office is upstairs, has a sign on the door with a giant eyeball on it that has green and magenta veins around the iris and "LSD" written above it, an old modular booth from a restaurant or diner with a formica-topped table in the middle, and papers and stuff spread all over the table, including old match boxes, tickets, a typewriter, joint roaches, an ashtray, etc. So the office in the book is a much more cluttered, hippy-styled affair.) One thing I'm struck by with both is the kind of simultaneously realistic but cinematic look. Many of the compositions are framed simply and the cuts very long, so there's a sort of realistic, tactile feel to things -- yet they still feel a bit more hyper real or dream-like than, say, a French new wave film. Most of me wants to chalk this up to the direction and the choices of film stock, cameras/camera settings, and lighting. And also the acting/directing combo.

Of course, this is all splitting hairs between The Master and IV. There are similarities and differences between the two within many frames. I think both have the recent PTA drama vibe, though, if you know what I mean.

P.S. I really recommend reading IV to anyone interested in a thought-provoking psychedelic romp. Pynchon is my favorite author and one of the few artists who I can wholeheartedly say changed my life.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lewton on November 05, 2017, 05:08:02 PM
The Master and IV look the same even if Elswit came back in between.

Do people agree with me? I'm saying it as a gut feeling.

I have a similar sense, although I wouldn't say they're exactly the same or anything. I have yet to substantiate this hunch through a close comparison of both films, though (after editing in some screen caps, I'm not even sure how convinced I am anymore, because TM definitely has this darker, moodier, melancholic look, and IV seems way softer and brighter...so whatever "overlap" I detected definitely doesn't go that far).

If you look at the scenes inside Doc's office (https://i.imgur.com/KprjtXz.png) in Inherent Vice, and compare them to the scenes of Freddie in the hospital (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8743/17140559155_c21d540c07_b.jpg) near the beginning of the The Master, I believe there's some similarities there in the texture of the image, the plain backgrounds, and the distribution of light. I know "texture of the image" is too vague, but again, this is mostly just a hunch (it's been a while since my last viewing of either film). IIRC, the effect I'm talking about can probably be described as "naturalistic," as opposed to overtly expressionistic and stylized. There's this kind of blanched quality via lots of white light -- literally streaming in through windows in a Janusz Kaminski/bloom-esque effect (like here in TM (https://s3.amazonaws.com/filmlinc/assets/uploads/comment/film_comment_blog/themaster01.png) and here in IV (https://i.imgur.com/U1Pipxe.png)) or through the background color (https://imgur.com/vw6Sl3Z).

During his "master class" thing at NYFF, Anderson said something about admiring Robby Müller's cinematography in Repo Man. He said Müller made the night shots actually look like nighttime. I think you can detect something similar going on in some scenes from TWBB, TM, and IV -- an "authentic," no frills kind of thing. There are still moodily arranged, expressionistic moments in all of these films, of course, and they're great, but there are other bits where it feels more like a decidedly unfussy, detail-oriented, naturalistic showcase for an actor's face (https://filmgrab.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/371.jpg), without shadows or snazzy lights stylizing or obscuring someone's appearance.

Even when the shot is dimmer and there are more shadows, it can still feel like natural magic hour stuff rather than, say, a Wes Anderson close-up, where, IIRC, color and light can sometimes go full-tilt in a contrived and artificial way (still nice, though). I think this is evident in TWBB when Plainview is brooding in his office before stepping out to address the Little Boston denizens. It's a shadowy shot (https://i.imgur.com/KGiOKug.png) but it's in the same naturalistic ballpark (actually, a better example is probably this one moment near the end of the film...I believe there's a great close-up on Plainview in his office there?). It just scans as authentic and down to earth...a Malick-esque seizing of the right light at the right time of day, rather than, say, Barry and Lena in the blue haze of that car ride in PDL (which is also beautiful, but in a different way).

I think the beach scenes (https://thefilmstage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/The_Master_Paul_Thomas_Anderson89.png) in TM, and Doc and Sancho talking over beers (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jJ69MgIpPa8/hqdefault.jpg) in IV, are visually arresting in a similar way. I just don't see that precise look in other films -- it's a very unique, subtle thing where the characters' faces seem naturally lit, there's a dollop of grain, this mix of sharp clarity and a certain softness in the use of light, etc. Another hunch tells me that the closest analogue for this exists in my favourite movies from the 70s: The French Connection, Don't Look Now, Days of Heaven, etc. I haven't watched the Phantom Thread trailer yet, but I've come across a few screen-captures and I think I see something along these lines there, too...

EDIT: Added some screen-caps...although I'm not sure if you'll think they effectively support this hunch or if I'm making any sense. TM definitely seems to feature more contrasts between dark and light, but there's still some overlap in terms of that soft, natural look I'm struggling to define.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 06, 2017, 07:39:42 PM
PTA confirmed those rumors from months ago that DDL was heavily involved during writing process

I've been wondering why DDL is not listed as a co-writer of the film? 

Quote
Writing Credits (in alphabetical order) 
Paul Thomas Anderson
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lottery on November 06, 2017, 09:09:05 PM
It's the Mike Leigh approach. Spends month improvising and developing the story with your actor friends and then keep the writing credit for yourself.

Nah, but I reckon DDL was probably like PSH on The Master- DDL helped develop Reynolds Woodcock and his overall arc (and the dialogue it seems) but PTA still sat down and wrote out the scenes and all. Screenwriter guild rules may play into it to but PTA obviously takes this writing thing seriously and probably did the bulk of the work.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: HACKANUT on November 08, 2017, 09:05:05 AM
has anyone else seen a Phantom Thread poster hanging in their local theaters yet? I'm in Pittsburgh and just saw one last night. seems we're a part of the limited release as the poster still said Dec 25th.

edit: here's a picture https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOHrUrwXcAEs_g9.jpg:large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOHrUrwXcAEs_g9.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: barrydiggler on November 09, 2017, 09:45:36 AM
Screening 11/25 for BAFTA LA and on 12/1 for HFPA...
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 09, 2017, 06:26:47 PM
Screening 11/25 for BAFTA LA and on 12/1 for HFPA...

Those are both in Los Angeles, or...?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Rooty Poots on November 10, 2017, 12:04:23 AM
Screening 11/25 for BAFTA LA and on 12/1 for HFPA...

Those are both in Los Angeles, or...?

Yes.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: csage97 on November 10, 2017, 10:28:14 PM
has anyone else seen a Phantom Thread poster hanging in their local theaters yet? I'm in Pittsburgh and just saw one last night. seems we're a part of the limited release as the poster still said Dec 25th.

edit: here's a picture https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOHrUrwXcAEs_g9.jpg:large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOHrUrwXcAEs_g9.jpg:large)

Cool! I haven't seen one yet. I'll be lucky if it screens near me. The Master did screen in my city, but then the closest to me that Inherent Vice screened was in the much larger city about an hour away. With parking and gas, it would've been possibly a $100 night. Pretty frustrating.

I found it strange that Hateful Eight didn't screen anywhere near me when it came out. Considering that Inglorious Basterds made quite a bit of money by Hollywood standards and then Django Unchained made even more, it boggles my mind that Hateful Eight just wasn't picked up. Maybe my local chain cinema got fed up with all the N words in Django and Tarantino's reputation for violence in general (though I really don't think his films are that violent at all .... The new Saw film is probably way more violent and graphic). Just kind of lame that all these crappy superhero movies were playing at the time instead.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: matt35mm on November 11, 2017, 12:40:37 AM
Damn. A bunch of awards screenings were just announced here: https://focusfeaturesguilds2017.com/screenings/phantom-thread/

But only for Academy and SAG members. :(

There should be some in December that I can get into. I'll keep monitoring daily, as I have been doing...
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 11, 2017, 08:50:16 PM
Damn. A bunch of awards screenings were just announced here: https://focusfeaturesguilds2017.com/screenings/phantom-thread/

But only for Academy and SAG members. :(

There should be some in December that I can get into. I'll keep monitoring daily, as I have been doing...

That's a LOT of screenings.  I would imagine the 'buzz' will spread quite significantly after that weekend.  (Perhaps spoilers as well.)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 13, 2017, 11:52:15 AM
A woman saw Phantom Thread.

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Upon my return from Paris I went to see Paul Thomas Anderson’s Phantom Thread with Daniel Day-Lewis. It is supposed to be his last film as an actor. He plays a dressmaker in the 50s, loosely based on Charles James. As always, it was a remarkable performance and I would not be surprised if he wins all the awards.

Source: https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/11/anne-mcnally-social-diary-october-2017

And she has nothing to say about it, too.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on November 13, 2017, 02:11:42 PM
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First "Phantom Thread" screenings will be Nov. 24.

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 3h3 hours ago
SAG & Academy? Wonder when DGA will screen it.

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@kristapley
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Press.

https://twitter.com/kristapley/status/930125176078876672
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 13, 2017, 02:42:00 PM
You've escaped the ten minutes "more of a comment than a question".
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 13, 2017, 02:48:32 PM
What's the question you would ask PTA? I saw him at a premiere without a Q&A and realized I had nothing to ask him anyway.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: matt35mm on November 14, 2017, 02:48:17 PM
Cigarettes & Red Vines is teasing special screenings on their Twitter... details to come very soon apparently.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 15, 2017, 07:28:51 PM
I'm not sure yet where the boundaries are around here.  I was excited to see this, for what it's worth...

https://twitter.com/JohnDarko/status/930922113422077952
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: matt35mm on November 15, 2017, 07:55:12 PM
They've just expanded the number of guilds that are allowed to RSVP, which gives me hope that I can snag one with ACE. I'll keep checking each day (as I have been doing). Probably the ones with Q&As will fill up before I get access.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 15, 2017, 07:57:16 PM
They've just expanded the number of guilds that are allowed to RSVP, which gives me hope that I can snag one with ACE. I'll keep checking each day (as I have been doing). Probably the ones with Q&As will fill up before I get access.

They're over-RSVPing, too.  So seating isn't even guaranteed. 
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: matt35mm on November 15, 2017, 08:35:09 PM
They've just expanded the number of guilds that are allowed to RSVP, which gives me hope that I can snag one with ACE. I'll keep checking each day (as I have been doing). Probably the ones with Q&As will fill up before I get access.

They're over-RSVPing, too.  So seating isn't even guaranteed.

That's standard. Even so, these screenings are never ever full.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Tictacbk on November 16, 2017, 01:38:34 AM
Woo! Just rsvp'd for Aero Theater on 11/29/2017 7:00 PM. Very excited.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 16, 2017, 02:18:39 AM
115 minute run time? 

https://i.redd.it/pfmxwj1xmayz.png
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: HACKANUT on November 16, 2017, 08:22:18 AM
thats substantially shorter than I was expecting. I'm sure the film's as tight as possible, but I was really looking forward to that rumored 3 hour cut!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on November 16, 2017, 12:04:28 PM
115 minute run time? 

https://i.redd.it/pfmxwj1xmayz.png

Wow, that's surprising.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on November 16, 2017, 12:59:20 PM
Can we expect a second trailer?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on November 16, 2017, 09:49:20 PM
The rumor going around was that this will be a shorter runtime, so it's nice to see a new confirmation
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on November 17, 2017, 05:51:03 PM
Announcement in 70mm at the music box theater in Chicago. And cigs and red vines said that they were announcing something soon.  Possibly a early screening in 70mm?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Tdog on November 18, 2017, 03:46:56 PM
Better poster for sure! 115 runtime is only 15 minutes shorter than The Master, which as much as I love it could have done with shaving off 5-10 minutes towards the end.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lottery on November 18, 2017, 07:00:54 PM
Pretty surprised by the runtime.
I wonder if this was more informed by the editing process with Tichenor or if PTA had determined that this would be a lean drama type thing early on in writing.
I hope there's some additional footage like usual.

Better poster for sure! 115 runtime is only 15 minutes shorter than The Master, which as much as I love it could have done with shaving off 5-10 minutes towards the end.

Master Spoilers


I might be one of the few who think this but I would have been happy with an extra 5-10 minutes between Freddie leaving Dodd in the desert and returning to him in England.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 18, 2017, 08:31:27 PM
IJ absolutely works on the page. It would be a disaster filmed. And I hope he'll always be able to do movies. But who knows how the world will be in twenty years.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 20, 2017, 11:02:53 AM
PREVIEWS IN NEW YORK AND LOS ANGELES.


http://www.focusfeatures.com/phantom-thread/screenings
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: greenberryhill on November 20, 2017, 11:15:20 AM
New teaser!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evu5NMPrXf4

The last scene reminds me of the  processing scene in The Master  :shock: 
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jenkins on November 20, 2017, 11:24:01 AM
PREVIEWS IN NEW YORK AND LOS ANGELES.


http://www.focusfeatures.com/phantom-thread/screenings

huh, well. they're going to buy my ticket? i mean that's chill. i got one for a date that i might go, but i might not go (i never quite know)

(https://i.imgur.com/aPnKs2x.png)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 20, 2017, 11:50:02 AM
PREVIEWS IN NEW YORK AND LOS ANGELES.


http://www.focusfeatures.com/phantom-thread/screenings

Nothing there now.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: HACKANUT on November 20, 2017, 12:19:45 PM
I believe that screening site has been replaced by phantomthreadscreenings.com
strangely it redirects to the old url tho
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 20, 2017, 12:24:59 PM
I believe that screening site has been replaced by phantomthreadscreenings.com
strangely it redirects to the old url tho

Exactly.  Maybe they're still in the process of getting it online.  (Or it crashed already...)   :yabbse-grin:
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on November 20, 2017, 12:38:49 PM
Create an account on the Focus site! Got my pass for Thurs 11/28  :shock:

http://www.focusfeatures.com/phantom-thread/screenings
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: noyes on November 20, 2017, 12:44:01 PM
LA still has about 7 or 8 screening dates available. NYC’s screenings, on the other hand, are totally Sold Out, unfortunately. Better luck in early December, I hope.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 20, 2017, 12:52:48 PM
LA still has about 7 or 8 screening dates available. NYC’s screenings, on the other hand, are totally Sold Out, unfortunately. Better luck in early December, I hope.

The weird thing is that I can only access that site via my cellphone.  I'm on a waitlist.  Non of the non-sold out links do anything but remind me that I'm on that list and will be notified, blah-blah-blah...
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jviness02 on November 20, 2017, 01:09:07 PM
New teaser!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evu5NMPrXf4

The last scene reminds me of the  processing scene in The Master  :shock:

POSSIBLE SPOILERS.......




I believe the narration is from the begining. Supposedly it opens with her being interviewed about Woodcock. I believe the interview either serves as bookends or something similar structurally.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: noyes on November 20, 2017, 01:09:55 PM
Officially all sold out. Looking forward to reviews at the end of the week.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: KJ on November 20, 2017, 01:13:39 PM
Officially all sold out. Looking forward to reviews at the end of the week.

yes. very exited for this.

it probably comes to sweden in february or something silly like that :(
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 20, 2017, 01:16:23 PM
Officially all sold out. Looking forward to reviews at the end of the week.

yes. very exited for this.

it probably comes to sweden in february or something silly like that :(

February in France. It's still better than when they used to get released in March because they thought the movies would get Oscars.

For LA: You can win tickets with Cigarettes & Red Vines:

https://cigsandredvines.blogspot.fr/2017/11/la-win-passes-to-early-screening-of.html?m=1
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: matt35mm on November 20, 2017, 01:48:03 PM
I got greedy and booked 3 dates (also because I don't know for sure if I'll be in town for the first few days of the screenings). All at the Beverly Hills spot.

Nov 24 at 2pm (with Q&A)
Nov 26 at 7pm
Nov 28 at 7pm

Who's going to what? XIXAX meetup?????
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on November 20, 2017, 02:54:02 PM
I got multiple for NYC, but not sure I can attend
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on November 20, 2017, 03:03:49 PM
I don't know how reliable this is but Wikipedia has it at 160 minutes.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: eward on November 20, 2017, 03:04:18 PM
I grabbed two for NYC, Sunday and Monday, and will attempt to attend both, for we all know how those first PTA screenings can be.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Tdog on November 20, 2017, 04:10:34 PM
Boy oh boy! I only watched a few seconds of it but that has to be a PTA cut trailer right? Full of money shots that bloody well better make it into the movie! Also, THAT SCORE!!!!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on November 20, 2017, 05:43:10 PM
Does somebody have extra pass to DGA screening
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 20, 2017, 05:58:31 PM
We should open a SPOILERS thread.


(phantom pun intended.)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lewton on November 20, 2017, 07:18:23 PM
I still haven't watched any of the trailers -- keep running into screen caps and video thumbnail images, though -- and I'm wondering...this was shot in January and February of this year, right? So, I wonder if this will provide the first instance of snow, falling or fallen, in a PTA movie. Unless I'm mistaken, none of his films have ever featured snow.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 20, 2017, 07:29:42 PM
We should open a SPOILERS thread.

I was thinking that very thing today.  Screenings are coming...
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jenkins on November 20, 2017, 09:08:50 PM
I got greedy and booked 3 dates (also because I don't know for sure if I'll be in town for the first few days of the screenings). All at the Beverly Hills spot.

Nov 24 at 2pm (with Q&A)
Nov 26 at 7pm
Nov 28 at 7pm

Who's going to what? XIXAX meetup?????

i'll text you on the 26th xx
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 20, 2017, 11:03:26 PM
More passes being given away for L.A. screening:

https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/11/win-passes-to-a-phantom-thread-advanced-screening-and-qa-with-director-paul-thomas-anderson/
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: velociraptor on November 21, 2017, 01:30:06 PM
The music in this new trailer is absolutely stunning.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 21, 2017, 02:35:04 PM
I don't recall this level of pre-release screenings for Inherent Vice.  What do you suppose is behind it?  To generate buzz?  Fishing for nominations?  All of the above? What does the Director-and-actors-in-person add to the equation?  A coolness factor?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: modage on November 21, 2017, 02:53:59 PM
No, Inherent Vice didn't have nearly this many advance screenings for the public though I'll be curious to see if they open this up beyond NY/LA. Without any inside knowledge I would assume that Focus doesn't think playing the secretive game will do the film any favors once it's out in the world. PTA has a crazy passionate fanbase and if they can get the film in front of enough of those people hopefully they can get some buzz going for this that translates to a wider audience.

The initial announcement of these screenings was for guilds only so the timing for this is making sure everyone has a chance to see it before they vote for year end awards which starts happening right after Thanksgiving. But it's pretty cool of them to open those same screenings up to film nerds and PTA heads. And hopefully this will pay off.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 21, 2017, 05:08:46 PM
film nerds and PTA heads.

It's not "Film Heads" and "PTA Nerds"? 
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 21, 2017, 06:36:05 PM
No, Inherent Vice didn't have nearly this many advance screenings for the public though I'll be curious to see if they open this up beyond NY/LA. Without any inside knowledge I would assume that Focus doesn't think playing the secretive game will do the film any favors once it's out in the world. PTA has a crazy passionate fanbase and if they can get the film in front of enough of those people hopefully they can get some buzz going for this that translates to a wider audience.

The initial announcement of these screenings was for guilds only so the timing for this is making sure everyone has a chance to see it before they vote for year end awards which starts happening right after Thanksgiving. But it's pretty cool of them to open those same screenings up to film nerds and PTA heads. And hopefully this will pay off.

Clearly their "Oh, the screenings are sold out but give us your e-mail address anyway" gambit is part of their marketing strategy.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lewton on November 23, 2017, 11:24:52 AM
I was recently thinking about how PTA first met DDL. If I recall correctly, Day-Lewis really admired Punch-Drunk Love, passed along some glowing remarks to Anderson, and that eventually led to them collaborating on There Will Be Blood. Do I have that right?

I'm really not sure what type of movie Phantom Thread is going to be, but perhaps it's the eccentric, romantic love story that DDL wanted all along. This is not to say that he didn't gravitate toward TWBB; interviews suggest DDL had a real affinity for that material. It is interesting, though, that Anderson's most optimistic and explicitly romantic movie, which is opposed to TWBB in many ways, drew him into the collaboration in the first place.

At any rate, I'm really excited to see a strain of romanticism come to the fore in Anderson's work again. It was definitely there in The Master and Inherent Vice, but it seems like Phantom Thread's romantic aspects will be much more sustained and explicit, whereas there were a lot of other things competing for our interest in the last two films.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: mogwai on November 23, 2017, 11:48:32 PM
Don't know if I dig the title. Should be retitled as "Phantom Beaver".
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Something Spanish on November 24, 2017, 09:04:11 AM
Don't know if I dig the title. Should be retitled as "Phantom Beaver".


Is that based on your viewing of the film or conjecture?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 24, 2017, 10:32:44 AM
Is someone watching it today?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Lewton on November 24, 2017, 03:46:40 PM
A new poster is apparently on display at Ahrya Fine Arts, where the first two screenings are taking place. This photo was tweeted out:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPbWqotVAAEX4v5.jpg)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: KJ on November 24, 2017, 04:26:30 PM
It could have been worse, with just the giant head and the text "last film of DDL" slapped underneath it.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Something Spanish on November 24, 2017, 04:49:36 PM
Shits going down in la RIGHT NOW
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: KJ on November 24, 2017, 05:00:34 PM
It's like fantasizing about your girlfriend being fucked by some other dude and being excited
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Something Spanish on November 24, 2017, 05:05:27 PM
It's like fantasizing about your girlfriend being fucked by some other dude and being excited


Well, I wouldn't want to ask the dude in that hypothetical situation how it was, whereas I do want to ask everyone at this screening how it was.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 24, 2017, 06:00:04 PM
There's an embargo for social media. We'll have to wait for Xixaxers.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on November 24, 2017, 06:02:57 PM
I know of some attending tonight
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on November 24, 2017, 06:21:24 PM
Kristopher Tapley‏Verified account
@kristapley
“Phantom Thread” is dedicated to Jonathan Demme.

https://twitter.com/kristapley/status/934214672915427328
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jenkins on November 24, 2017, 07:18:47 PM
we all have a friend who's in the know

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb5LzFcBRSn/
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Tdog on November 24, 2017, 07:35:42 PM
That red "E.T finger" like glow is a camera sensor light right? Also isnt the DDL head positioning just the Lincoln poster all over again?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on November 24, 2017, 07:38:21 PM
Word is that Greenwood's the MVP here and it's some of his best work
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Fitzroy on November 25, 2017, 09:23:19 AM
https://instagram.com/p/Bb7EkSwFiN6/

This is nice.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 25, 2017, 12:01:35 PM
I didn't notice the new poster in the lobby yesterday (despite walking past it half-a-dozen-times), I did notice this outside while pacing around trying to decide if I should approach Paul or not. 
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: BigSock on November 25, 2017, 11:42:35 PM
Does anyone need plus one for DGA screening Sunday
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: modage on November 26, 2017, 09:04:25 AM
Any NYC Xixaxers not get into any of the screenings? I might have an extra for Monday.

Edit: apologies. Don't have an extra anymore. My wife is gonna come.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Mogambo on November 26, 2017, 01:31:59 PM
Hi guys.

I read a tweet that complimented DDL and Krieps with a very vivid metaphor. Someone in the replies said that the tweet has a MAJOR spoiler, so now I know it's a spoiler too. Ruined a major plot-point for me I think.

Stay off twitter. I know there is an embargo, but people are dicks and just WANT to prove to you that they've seen the movie before anyone else.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jenkins on November 26, 2017, 01:57:05 PM
a meme about what you're saying

https://twitter.com/danvasmoon/status/934273898933342208
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Pozer on November 26, 2017, 02:01:42 PM
He’s still getting these movies made in this day and age and how lucky are we?

Phantom Thread is incredible.

No other human making movies messes with our heads (I’m in the morning after phase!) the way this dude does with these otherworldly environments and weird character traits and insane emotional conflicts he comes up with. I don’t even know how to try and sum it up anymore. It’s the PTA world. HOW DOES HE COME UP WITH THIS STUFF?

This will become one of my favorites I’m sure. I don’t really rank them but it’s Master level but it’s its own incredible thing.

I mainly had to chime in from the dead to argue against that idiot celebrity stalking Youtuber crying about Paul dropping pens. After the awesome and hilarious Q & A following yesterday’s 2 PM screening, he graciously hung about with us freaks, insisting we form the meet and greet line into a circle and talked more about his process and posed for pics with us. AND he had a flight to New York to catch!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Something Spanish on November 27, 2017, 12:26:28 PM
Does anyone need plus one for DGA screening Sunday
Any NYC Xixaxers not get into any of the screenings? I might have an extra for Monday.


xixaxers are the nicest.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: budwillies on November 27, 2017, 12:28:24 PM
Any extra tickets available for NYC? Really would love to go.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Mogambo on November 27, 2017, 01:19:59 PM
Phantom Thread theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcrY_FfqBDs

PTA, DDL, Krieps, Manville Q&A:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOasnQC2eaQ
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 27, 2017, 01:28:01 PM
^ Just a warning, that track is another MIDI version. It's a lot better than the last one, but I had to stop when the strings kicked in.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Mogambo on November 27, 2017, 01:32:43 PM
^ Just a warning, that track is another MIDI version. It's a lot better than the last one, but I had to stop when the strings kicked in.

It's pretty good tbh. Feels like some time was put into this one, unlike the last one.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 27, 2017, 01:50:21 PM
Oh for sure. Just, personally, listening to the whole thing is not worth the spoilage. I should probably wait for the movie anyway.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 27, 2017, 07:41:44 PM
Soundtrack release news. 

http://exclaim.ca/film/article/jonny_greenwoods_phantom_thread_score_set_for_release_via_nonesuch
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: mogwai on November 27, 2017, 10:14:53 PM
Don't know if I dig the title. Should be retitled as "Phantom Beaver".


Is that based on your viewing of the film or conjecture?


Im hoping for beaver as there was blood in "There will be blood".
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 28, 2017, 05:27:23 PM
NY Times on couture and the film.  (Not too spoilery).

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/28/t-magazine/entertainment/phantom-thread-movie-paul-thomas-anderson.html

Quote
In 1939, presumably because the model employed to wear his clothes was inadequate, he wore his own ball gowns for Andrew Goodman of Bergdorf Goodman who, nevertheless, placed an order.

Quote
I find these superstitions and traditions to be very exciting,” Anderson says of the different couturiers (and their quirks) he researched for the film. “They can make for great stories, great fairy tales.” And indeed, fairy tales are one of the primary reasons haute couture still exists today — wedding dresses are the most frequently ordered items in the industry, fit for a make-believe princess (or a real-life one).

New Guild Screenings Announced (https://focusfeaturesawards2017.com/)


    London
    Los Angeles
    Miami
    New York
    Palm Springs
    Phoenix
    San Diego
    San Francisco
    Santa Barbara
    Seattle

And a rumor of "something special" courtesy Cigs and Red Vines?


Quote
Despite the strict embargo placed on the critical response until December 7th, the whispers we've heard following the screenings in Los Angeles and New York indicate something really special has been cooked up with this movie.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: jviness02 on November 28, 2017, 11:39:28 PM

I'm pretty sure the "something special" is the film itself. I read his comment as "Even though there is technically an embargo, we've heard the film is great ".
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 28, 2017, 11:52:20 PM

I'm pretty sure the "something special" is the film itself. I read his comment as "Even though there is technically an embargo, we've heard the film is great ".

Yeah, I thnk you're probably right.  That makes more sense, too. 
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: d on November 29, 2017, 10:00:01 AM
https://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/whats-on/126484-phantom-thread-2018

Wow! Considering the praise Greenwood's score receives that sounds even more awesome. Any Londoners here?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on November 29, 2017, 10:51:20 AM
Tempting to travel from Paris, but it probably means there will be a premiere there a few days later.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on November 29, 2017, 01:20:40 PM
We were just talking about the live musical accompaniment they did for Punch-Drunk Love almost two years ago in NY & LA. It cost me $70, but I really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: max from fearless on November 30, 2017, 07:23:43 AM
Anyone looking to go to the London orchestral screening?
Tickets onsale tomorrow from 10am unless you're a Southbank member...
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on December 01, 2017, 12:30:53 AM
I only half-jokingly suggested to someone in the PTA subreddit last night that they show up to the threater screening Phantom Thread tonight with a sign that said "Plus one?".

This was his report back to me just now:
Quote
Got in, had a "Plus 1?" sign but eventually they let anyone who wanted in.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Mogambo on December 01, 2017, 02:03:45 AM
What the fuck? Are enough people not going to watch it? That makes me sad.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: boogienights on December 01, 2017, 02:23:09 AM
Hi, new to the forum, I'm the PTA fan wilberfan helped out on the sub reddit.

First and foremost loved the film!

So I got there around 5 so I was waiting around a while, at 6 doors opened and another guy without a ticket saw on Twitter that the Aero theater had a standby line and wondered if the Ahrya was going to do the same.

He went inside while I stood outside with my "Plus 1?" sign. He came out and said they're letting non-rsvp's in.

I went in and the three Focus Features girls all 'awwed' in unison at my sign.

At about 6:45 I went to the restroom and came back to a full house.

I hadn't looked back while waiting for most the hour, I'm guessing the guild members/ RSVP's were not a huge number but they had no problem filling the house.

Thank god I saved my seat by putting my jacket on it, my row went from empty to full by the time I came back.

I think this movie will do just fine.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: d on December 01, 2017, 07:28:09 AM
We were just talking about the live musical accompaniment they did for Punch-Drunk Love almost two years ago in NY & LA. It cost me $70, but I really enjoyed it.

I will probably go to London in January but since that will be my first viewing of Phantom Thread I am both excited and slightly worried. With PDL and similar London events for TWBB, I imagine knowing the movies already makes it a different experience. I am sure it will all be nice and pro but the "mix" must be somehow different, right? Isn't live music a little bit distracting? I understand that Greenwood's score here is great but with the first viewing I would like to enjoy the movie and not listen to live concert with the movie somehow ith the background. Do you guys have any suggestions?
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on December 01, 2017, 02:45:15 PM
That's reminds me of my last "Live Music PTA Event":  I attended the live-music "Punch-Drunk Love" (https://youtu.be/BzhleewJbTg) here in L.A. almost two years ago.  I remember thinking that theater audio had gotten so good these days, that--sitting in the balcony, where the orchestra was out of view--it was really hard to tell the music was "live" at all.   It might have been a slightly better experience if I'd been sitting where I could see the orchestra--but then that would have distracted from watching the film.

I think I ultimately concluded that the whole thing--while awesome (and expensive)--was a bit of a "stunt".  I would have had just as good a time seeing the film "normally" with a huge auditorium full of PTA and PDL fans.  (It was the collective 'vibe' I think I enjoyed the most. It was fun seeing Luiz Guzman in the foyer after, though, too...)  I remember leaving the theater thinking, "Yeah, instead of $70 with a live orchestra, I would have had rather paid $20 just to see the film with this excited crowd."
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: axxonn on December 01, 2017, 06:06:29 PM
We were just talking about the live musical accompaniment they did for Punch-Drunk Love almost two years ago in NY & LA. It cost me $70, but I really enjoyed it.

I will probably go to London in January but since that will be my first viewing of Phantom Thread I am both excited and slightly worried. With PDL and similar London events for TWBB, I imagine knowing the movies already makes it a different experience. I am sure it will all be nice and pro but the "mix" must be somehow different, right? Isn't live music a little bit distracting? I understand that Greenwood's score here is great but with the first viewing I would like to enjoy the movie and not listen to live concert with the movie somehow ith the background. Do you guys have any suggestions?

Honestly, even as a Londoner I'll probably give the January showing a miss because I've got a feeling the live music will be a distraction for me - it's great for silents but I'm not convinced otherwise. Will have to wait till February for the multiplex style rollout. Which sucks.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on December 02, 2017, 07:06:26 AM
I found this tweet for people who live in Australia:

"Sydney friends: There is an early screening of PHANTOM THREAD at the Randwick Ritz on Jan 25th at 6:30pm. Go go go!"
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilder on December 03, 2017, 03:31:42 PM
Guys I think it's time to start separate threads for twitter reactions, critic's reviews, and awards news. There are going to be a million more awards and 140 character hot takes in the next few months. Let's try to keep this thread for spoiler-free discussion amongst xixax members. Without some level of organization this forum is going to turn into the greater internet.

Going to leave the info about early screenings members might be able to attend.


Separated threads:

Everything twitter (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=13816.0)

Phantom Thread - Critic's Reviews (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=13819.0)

Phantom Thread - Awards Ticker (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=13815.0)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on December 03, 2017, 06:01:11 PM
Phantom Thread posters by Tony Stella

(https://i.imgur.com/T3a9LgV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/APkx9KF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/D3PESaa.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zuxMu2v.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Jxdh1Sl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/W8nYpts.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sX3sqjX.jpg)
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: FilmCell on December 03, 2017, 08:05:40 PM
Way better!
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Mogambo on December 06, 2017, 05:10:52 AM
http://variety.com/gallery/directors-on-directors-get-out-lady-bird/#!9/phantom-thread-3
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Fitzroy on December 06, 2017, 07:42:33 AM
Hats off to Mr Johnson, that’s one of the best summations of my own feelings towards PTA’s films that I’ve ever read.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: velociraptor on December 08, 2017, 07:10:59 PM
New little preview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PHso_OCwCs
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on December 08, 2017, 07:32:14 PM
When we all reconvene on the 26th, I'd like to discuss why he drives so fast...and she seems to care so little that he does. 
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on December 08, 2017, 09:02:32 PM
Not sure of the source, but this is interesting:
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilberfan on December 08, 2017, 09:37:22 PM
‘Phantom Thread’ 70mm Screenings Are Coming to Select Theaters

http://www.slashfilm.com/phantom-thread-70mm-screenings/

December 25: 70mm & digital

    Arclight Hollywood, LA
    The Landmark, LA
    AMC Lincoln Square 13, NYC

January 12: 70mm

    Alamo Drafthouse New Mission, SF
    Alamo Drafthouse Ritz, Austin
    Alamo Drafthouse Brooklyn, NYC
    The Music Box, Chicago
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: csage97 on December 08, 2017, 10:00:54 PM
New little preview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PHso_OCwCs

Lovely shots! That score is amazing. Totally reminds me of Steve Reich. I watched Dunkirk today and, although the soundtrack has some good and appropriate elements, I was disappointed with the music on the whole. I thought, man, if only Jonny Greenwood had done the score for this film! Great work by Hoyt Van Hoytema, though.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: ono on December 08, 2017, 10:26:44 PM
Really bummed this doesn't go wide until January 19th.  At first I was wanting to see this on Christmas, but the realized that's only a limited release.  Ugh.

Not to mention, just a warning: it's probably best not to go into anything related to PTA anywhere on the Internet.  Even seemingly innocuous stuff.  I had one little thing about the film spoiled that I'd rather not know, and I'm still really finding it hard to stay away, out of boredom and curiosity.

I didn't care all that much about Inherent Vice because it was adapted material, but it's a great feeling to be truly excited about a PTA film.  Sure, I was excited about CMBB, but that came with the assurances he was doing his own riff on Oil!.  But I digress.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Something Spanish on December 09, 2017, 10:58:37 AM
As if it isn't bad enough we have to wait till the 19th, we also have to settle for DCP projection while NY/LA flaunts 70MM prints.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Heisenberg on December 09, 2017, 11:53:29 AM
Odd that there doesn't seem to be any 35mm showings anywhere. Also, it looks like those of us who don't live in NY or LA have to wait until at least January 12th to see it. Hopefully they will do some general advance screenings before the expansion like they did for Inherent Vice.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Drenk on December 09, 2017, 12:02:02 PM
I have seen a 70mm print of IV. My sight isn't the best there is but it looked like regular 35mm. I don't see the point of making those.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: Reelist on December 09, 2017, 03:32:04 PM
I guess it's no so much that you're getting a "clearer" image like with DCP, but the fact that the film is twice the size means it doesn't have to be blown up as much to fit the screen. So, you're kind of getting a denser image, if that makes any sense.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: giodashorts on December 09, 2017, 05:09:01 PM
Yes. When I saw 'Inherent Vice' on 70mm in the cinema, it was truly magnificent. The colors and the movement (of the film -- stability) was wonderful. I'd love to see 'Phantom Thread' in 70mm. Of course, 35mm would be great as well. I wonder if they did "negative cutting" on this film. It can, in some instances, be observed, in a DCP or Blu-ray, for having a slight wobble between certain cuts (at least I have noticed this on some films).
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: WorldForgot on December 09, 2017, 11:57:46 PM
I have seen a 70mm print of IV. My sight isn't the best there is but it looked like regular 35mm. I don't see the point of making those.

Having seen both 35mm and its 70mm blow-up, for real for real that the 70 even seemed a lil crushed when compared to the 35's colors. ;_;
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: boogienights on December 10, 2017, 08:20:44 PM
As if it isn't bad enough we have to wait till the 19th, we also have to settle for DCP projection while NY/LA flaunts 70MM prints.

DCP is fine, I actually think blowing up 35mm to 70 is dumb, like someone else said I saw Inherent Vice on 70mm looked just like a 35mm projection.

I think 35mm screenings would be cooler, but having seen it on 35mm I actually would like to see it next on a DCP, soak in the photography from a perfect scan. Just my opinion though, great film no matter how you see it though.
Title: Re: Phantom Thread
Post by: wilder on December 11, 2017, 03:48:05 PM
Splitting interviews (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=13831.0) for easy access