XIXAX Film Forum

Film Discussion => The Vault => Topic started by: Ravi on August 02, 2011, 12:35:10 AM

Title: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Ravi on August 02, 2011, 12:35:10 AM
http://www.screendaily.com/news/production/lars-von-triers-nymphomaniac-being-lined-up-for-summer-2012-shoot/5030401.article

Lars von Trier's Nymphomaniac being lined up for summer 2012 shoot
1 August, 2011 | By Geoffrey Macnab

Nyphomaniac now looks certain to be Lars Von Trier’s next feature project, with production slated to begin in the summer of 2012.

Von Trier is currently researching the project, which will follow “the erotic life of a woman from the age of zero to the age of 50.”

The Danish director’s business partner and producer Peter Aalbæk Jensen (and co-founder of Zentropa) has confirmed that the film will shoot in the English language. “We hope to start shooting next summer,” he said. “This is following the normal schedule of Lars - a film every second year.”

The film’s subject matter (in particular, its treatment of youthful sexuality and graphic depiction of intercourse) could cause problems with censors. However, the Danish auteur is reportedly planning two versions - one a hardcore cut likely to feature scenes of penetration and a softer version that can be shown in more mainstream cinemas. Despite the likely graphic sexual content, the project is understood to be primarily dialogue-driven.

The film’s storyline will unfold in eight chapters. These have such titles as “The Western and Eastern Church” and “The Little Organ School.”

“He (Von Trier) is really keen on doing this thing. I think that this will be a very amusing film also, very erotic but very funny also,” Peter Aalbæk Jensen commented. “I guess we have something which could generate some press attention. How pornographic it will be, that we have to see in terms of what financing dictates.”

Like most of von Trier’s recent films, Nymphomaniac is set to shoot outside Denmark.

“That’s the burden of coming from a shitty little country,” Peter Aalbæk Jensen joked. “We have to put the financing together in bits and pieces and shoot where people are generous enough to support Lars. We always have been shooting in Sweden or in Germany and have had some extremely valuable backing from (regional funds) Film I Vast and North-Rhine Westphalia. We will either shoot or do post-production in one of these regions.”
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on December 27, 2011, 11:06:41 AM
Charlotte Gainsbourg to Star in Lars von Trier's 'The Nymphomaniac'

At first everyone got excited thinking it was going to be the other star of Melancholia, Kirsten Dunst, who was going to star in this tantalizingly-titled film. But now according to Variety, Charlotte Gainsbourg is "in talks" to star in Lars von Trier's new film, The Nymphomaniac, an "explicit exploration of a woman's erotic life." If you thought her "explicit exploration" in Antichrist was enough already (that was her, too), then just wait until you hear what he's cooking up with this. The actor and filmmaker worked together on Antichrist and Melancholia, and will continue that partnership, with shooting slated for next summer/fall.
When Gainsbourg starred in Antichrist for Lars von Trier, she won numerous awards including Best Actress at Cannes that year, though considering he's now persona non grata that won't be happening again. Repped by TrustNordisk and produced by Zentropa, The Nymphomaniac already has enough pre-sales in countries like the UK, Poland, Russia and most of Europe, that it'll get made without much of a hassle, and von Trier can continue making the kind of films he wants with the actresses he likes. Though this one is a bit different.

Nymphomaniac is an ambitious project for von Trier as he has said it will "show the sexual evolution of a woman from birth to age 50." The film will be divided into eight chapters and be released in two different versions - a softcore cut for mainstream distribution, and a hardcore one. "As a cultural radical I can’t make a film about the sexual evolution of a woman from zero to 50 without showing penetration. I know it’s something very European," von Trier told EW. "It principally is a film with a lot of sex in it and also a lot of philosophy." And here we thought Shame was pushing it with an NC-17. Considering we know Gainsbourg isn't afraid to bare all in a sexual way, e.g. Antichrist, and actually act at the same time, she's a good fit here.

http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/charlotte-gainsbourg-to-star-in-lars-von-triers-the-nymphomaniac/

Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Reinhold on December 27, 2011, 04:42:30 PM
There is so much in that post that makes me incredibly happy. I can't wait to see it.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on December 27, 2011, 04:49:21 PM
Since the character is going from 0 to 50, there must be other actresses playing the character, right? No offense to Gainsbourg, but I can't see Von Trier using that much youngifying makeup.

I am suddenly picturing an infant with a Charlotte Gainsbourg head.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Tortuga on December 28, 2011, 08:17:18 AM
I am suddenly picturing an infant with a Charlotte Gainsbourg head.

Well, we do know what Lars is capable of...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WA6sbVF0VF0/TjxWFWLTeQI/AAAAAAAACNk/qJf-U2-yj4k/s1600/trauma+ala+trier+2.jpg)
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on March 29, 2012, 03:55:47 AM
(http://trustnordisk.com/sites/default/files/s2imports/Z1924/public/stills/Nymphomaniac.jpg)

Official Nymphomanic synopsis

NYMPHOMANIAC is the light and poetic story of a woman’s erotic journey from birth to the age of 50 as told by the main character, the self-diagnosed nymphomaniac, Joe.
On a cold winter’s evening Seligman, an old bachelor, finds Joe semi unconscious and beaten up in an alleyway. After bringing her to his flat he sees to her wounds while trying to understand how things could have gone so wrong for her. He listens intently as she over the next 8 chapters recounts the lushly branched-out and multi faceted story of her life, rich in associations and interjecting incidents.

http://trustnordisk.com/node/12463
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on March 29, 2012, 04:00:17 AM
First reaction: the O in that picture looks like a vagina.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: matt35mm on March 29, 2012, 03:22:32 PM
Perfect. Not only does the () evoke a pussy, but it effectively highlights the words NYMPH and MANIAC.

Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Pubrick on March 29, 2012, 09:49:35 PM
It also suggests an emptiness or void at the centre of such an existence.
 
It could also be taken as the mysterious core that a woman possesses in her sexuality. In other words the inexpressible and inaccessible nature that man assigns to women. The closed brackets exclude the reader  (paralleled in the film by the male listener, whom the synopsis wants us to identify as the "reader" of the woman's life which she recounts in chapters -- a common Von Trier trope) from cohesion but it also grants a sanctuary within the greater context of the word, a safe house, a complete and open world inside a defined one.

It's a great title and Melancholia was the best movie of last year.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Tortuga on March 30, 2012, 12:12:10 PM
^So what all this basically means is that Von Trier hired a decent graphic designer?

The movie itself sounds kind of lame to me at this stage. I can't imagine this covering any material that hasn't been covered in, say, Breaking The Waves in a (conceptually) more interesting manner.
The whole hardcore-/softcore-cut nonsense only adds to my feeling that this could very well become a high-budget equivalent of something Jess Franco would make in one of his less imaginative periods.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Just Withnail on March 30, 2012, 05:16:59 PM
^So what all this basically means is that Von Trier hired a decent graphic designer?

Who cares who thought it up? And, no, what it means is that like all his projects, this one is surrounded by an aura of intent and meaning, inviting reflection.

At this stage we know nothing about this except what we can project onto the small tidbits we have ("the art of Pubrick"), and it's a way more interesting exercise try to think interestingly about it, than not to. So when you say you

can't imagine

I say, thank god then that Von Trier is the one in charge of this and not you, and I also say "try".
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Tortuga on March 31, 2012, 08:26:52 AM
Touchy!

Just trying to prepare myself for potential disappointment. If it turns out to be a masterpiece, great! For all of us.

Von Trier is a skillful and intelligent filmmaker, and in my opninion still "one of the good guys". But he also has an ego that sometimes seems to get the best of him. All we know is that he has yet again found a concept with some nice shock-value and that he'll try his best to justify that shock-value with meaningful subtext and masterful imagery. I hope he succeeds in that. But I'm not going to assume so, based on a piece of typography.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 31, 2012, 10:41:43 AM
Just trying to prepare myself for potential disappointment.

I would be doing that too (as it's something I tend to do), but I have no reason to expect to be disappointed by LVT.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Just Withnail on March 31, 2012, 10:46:53 AM
Touchy!

Sorry about the tone, had a few glasses of wine and felt a need to have an opinion.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on April 05, 2012, 08:03:31 AM
I read in a swedish magazine that Stellan Skarsgård will play a role in this.

Perhaps no huge surprise, but I thought I would share that with you.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on April 26, 2012, 02:03:46 AM
Lars Von Trier's 'The Nymphomaniac' With Charlotte Gainsbourg Will Be 2 Part Film, Aiming For Cannes Premiere In 2013
Source: Playlist

Lars Von Trier has never been short on balls. His career has been filled with films that have found the director walking right into a hornets nest of thorny issues, whether it's slavery ("Manderlay"), the American empire ("Dogville"), feminism (sorta) ("Antichrist"), depression ("Melancholia"), faith ("Breaking The Waves") or just plain ol' "spazzing" ("The Idiots"), and so doing a movie about sex seems like the logical next step. But of course, his appraoch is never as simple as those reductive summaries suggest, and the resulting works are always controversial, exasperating, overreaching, brilliant and fascinating -- often all at once. And once again, Lars Von Trier is stepping beyond expectations.

Even though it was reported last year that Charlotte Gainsbourg would be reteaming with the helmer for "The Nymphomaniac," word began circulating today (again) that she was on board. But there's more. Producer Peter Aalbæk Jensen tells Screen Daily, “We are making two films. It is a big operation. I personally hope that we should be ready for Cannes next year. We will shoot both and edit both – and we want to finish both at the same time.” Um, awesome.

In case you forgot, the film will chronicle the sexual/erotic life of a woman until the age of 50. Jensen confirms previous reports that both softcore and hardcore versions of the movie will be made (“We will probably blur the central points of the human body for the release worldwide but we will probably make one unblurred that will be for screening maybe in Cannes.”), and adds that the first part will deal with childhood and adolescence, while part two will focus on adulthood. But wait, what was that about Cannes?

Even though Lars Von Trier was declared persona non grata at the festival last year and banned from the Croisette following his unfortunate comments, the plan is shoot "The Nymphomaniac" in Germany this summer and then try and bring it to the south of France next year. “...we have some pretty big names in the movie which proves that in spite of his (von Trier’s) strange quotes from Cannes last year, his value for actors to work with him has never been better,” Jensen says perhaps hoping that Thierry Fremaux and company will let the situation be water under the bridge. Big stars or not, it will be a very difficult film to turn down. That said, it was Lars Von Trier who was banned, not production company Zentropa (who are behind Thomas Vinterberg's "The Hunt" which is playing In Competition this year). So Cannes could very well accept the film, though Lars Von Trier may not be asked to come. It will be interesting to watch it play out.

And wait, there's more good news. Remember last spring, when it was announced that Lars Von Trier was going to work with Martin Scorsese on another "The Five Obstructions," where the latter would asked to remake certain parts of his films under strict, difficult conditions? Well, it's apparently still on even though for a moment, Lars Von Trier wasn't sure it was happening anymore. “They are talking together, Lars and Scorsese,” Jensen offered. And that's good enough for us. It's a great idea, and we'd be excited to see what Scorsese would pull together.

A two part movie about sex and making Scorsese revisit his old films? Even we doubt even Lars has any idea how he's going to top this.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on August 08, 2012, 10:45:07 PM
Shia LaBeouf in Talks for Lars von Trier's 'Nymphomaniac' (Exclusive)
The Danish director will begin filming the two-part erotic drama in September and will release two cuts of the project, one more sexually explicit.
Source: THR

Shia LaBeouf has set his sights on Danish director Lars von Trier's ambitious erotic drama Nymphomaniac, which is set to begin production in September. The Transformers star is in talks to join a cast led by Charlotte Gainsbourg. 

Nymphomaniac is the latest indie film to be embraced by the young actor. He's set to hit theaters over Labor Day in John Hillcoat's Lawless and stars in The Company You Keep, directed by and starring Robert Redford, which will premiere at the upcoming Venice Film Festival before making its way to the Toronto International Film Festival.

LaBeouf's third indie film in the pipeline is The Necessary Death of Charlie Countryman, which recently wrapped production. And he has shown a willingness to appear in erotic material recently, co-starring in an artsy Sigur Ros video.   

Nymphomaniac follows the erotic adventures of a woman (Gainsbourg) from her youth to age 50, as recounted to her husband (Stellan Skarsgard). It's not clear how big LaBeouf's role would be.

Von Trier is splitting the English-language project into two films and will shoot a softer and more explicit version of each. No domestic distributor is aboard, but rights have been sold off in numerous foreign markets.

German funding body the NRW Filmstiftung is backing Nymphomaniac with $1.6 million in production subsidies. The film will be shot entirely in the German state of North-Rhine Westphalia, where von Trier shot Antichrist.

Nymphomaniac is von Trier's his first movie since Melancholia, which made headlines around the world when the avant-garde filmmaker joked aboug being a Nazi while promoting the film at the 2011 Cannes Film Festival. He quickly apologized but was banned from the festival.

Nicole Kidman, who starred in von Trier's 2003 drama Dogville, suggested in a recent interview that she will play a small role in Nymphomaniac.

LaBeouf is represented by CAA, attorney Matt Saver and John Crosby Management.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on August 08, 2012, 11:00:38 PM
Speechless.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on August 08, 2012, 11:28:42 PM
He gets raped, right?
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on August 09, 2012, 05:34:24 AM
Speechless.

+1

This is so weird.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: BB on August 09, 2012, 10:47:11 AM
Guys, he's just Dunsting again.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on August 09, 2012, 11:16:37 AM
If he could Dunst with Shia LaBeouf, it would be the greatest achievement in film history.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on August 09, 2012, 11:28:57 AM
Guys, he's just Dunsting again.

I always thought that Dunst had at least one fantastic performance in her. It was just a matter of time before it happend. LeBeouf on the other hand is just plain boring and really bad most of the time. If this turns out to be true it might be the REAL PROOF of Triers psychical illness.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Reelist on August 09, 2012, 11:53:07 AM
Dunst has a pretty great track record and some killer boobs, so there's really no comparison
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on August 09, 2012, 12:06:41 PM
Dunst clearly had potential. It helps that her character was kind of made to be insufferable, so it was a no lose situation.

But Shia LaBeouf is cancer. I'm not really sure what could be done with him.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on August 09, 2012, 12:26:34 PM
I hate to do this but you might have to reconsider, JB;

I have no reason to expect to be disappointed by LVT.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: InTylerWeTrust on August 09, 2012, 12:51:16 PM
Kirsten Dunst is alright (The virgin suicides, Melancholia, eternal sunshine of the spotless mind). She gives a good performance every once in a while. But:



But Shia LaBeouf is cancer. I'm not really sure what could be done with him.

This.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: matt35mm on August 09, 2012, 08:04:20 PM
Hmm, I dunno, I like this choice. I think that Shia is totally capable of good work. Have y'all seen Even Stevens and Holes? He's definitely been bad in a lot of bad movies, but he's trying to figure some shit out. Lawless won't convince you, as he's definitely the weak link in that movie, which is a fairly mediocre one, but with that and with the Sigur Ros thing, you can sense that he could do good in the right part, and that he's got that part of him that's willing to give himself over to the filmmaker to use him how they will, which could be perfect for Von Trier.

The thing with Dunst is that she started out doing really good work, and then did a bunch of shitty work, but it was not unfathomable that she had it in her to bring it. Also, I think we're speaking with the benefit of hindsight when we talk about her in Melancholia. It was easy to balk when she was first cast, and hard to balk when the film started playing.

Shia hasn't had that "really good work" part of his career yet, but I've never really thought ill of him as an actor. He wants to do good and I think he can with Von Trier. I expect us all to be looking back on this in a year or two and generally agreeing that he did good here.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Reelist on August 10, 2012, 12:12:43 AM
well, hopefully he can channel his inner 12 year old and get something right, for once.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: polkablues on August 10, 2012, 12:17:35 AM
Guys, he's just Dunsting again.

I can't possibly stress how much I love this phrase.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on August 17, 2012, 02:25:18 PM
Shia LaBeouf Ready To Perform Sex ‘For Real’ In Lars Von Trier’s Nymphomaniac?
Source: Movieline

This week Shia LaBeouf announced that his blockbuster phase is over. From here on out he’s focusing on working with indie artistes, starting with everyone’s favorite provocateur, Lars Von Trier. But will Shia go all the way for his art on Von Trier’s Nymphomaniac, which will reportedly be shot in both softcore and hardcore versions and potentially require its cast to perform unsimulated sex scenes?

“There’s a disclaimer at the top of the script that basically says, we’re doing [the sex] for real,” LaBeouf told MTV during a chat promoting Lawless, as Lawless co-star Jessica Chastain looked on lamenting the future corruption of “little Shia.” “And anything that is ‘illegal’ will be shot in blurred images, but other than that, everything is happening.”

Charlotte Gainsbourg will play the lead and reunite with her Antichrist director in Nymphomaniac, in which Von Trier “wants to see the sexual arousement of a girl [on screen],” according to producer Peter Aalbæk Jensen. Stellan Skarsgard and Nicole Kidman have also signed on to join the cast.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: InTylerWeTrust on August 17, 2012, 04:27:06 PM
I have lots of trust in Von trier..... But honestly, Shia Labeouf is the last person I wanna see fucking....
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on August 17, 2012, 04:40:26 PM
"Anything that is illegal"... what does that mean? Child porn or something?
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Brando on August 17, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
What the hell does that mean? If anyone was going to invent and film a depraved sex act that borders on legality it would be Lars.  It could be worse and he could put a pink box over it like storytelling.

JB is guessing child porn.  I'm guessing bestiality.

EDIT: I can't get away from thinking about this.  How does blurring an image that is illegal make it any less legal or change anything?  It doesn't. If the act itself is illegal then I don't see why blurring it changes anything.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: polkablues on August 17, 2012, 05:14:42 PM
I think all this confusion can be abated just by reminding ourselves that Shia Labeouf is kind of dumb and prone to saying things that are kind of dumb.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on August 17, 2012, 05:19:43 PM
It's most likely an obscure Nazi perversion.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: InTylerWeTrust on August 17, 2012, 05:28:21 PM
It's most likely an obscure Nazi perversion.


So which part is Jesse James playing?...
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: RegularKarate on August 17, 2012, 05:44:41 PM
I'm pretty sure he just means insertion. You can't show that in some states.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on August 18, 2012, 02:26:20 PM
Yeah, in the article it's written ‘illegal’, with '', which only means what the censors in the MPAA find illegal.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: The Ultimate Badass on August 19, 2012, 03:39:51 AM
I've liked Shia LaBeouf since his Even Stevens days, but I'm afraid he's starting to take himself too seriously. Lars Von Trier makes compelling films, but I think they're also quite silly and lack sophistication. This could be a recipe for career disaster for LaBeouf. For Trier, it will be business as usual. The guy doesn't give a shit.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: pete on August 19, 2012, 06:26:00 AM
von trier's films have silly premises; but they're almost always carried out with a sense of seriousness that frustrates his audience and critics, because he manages to draw them into the story emotionally, no matter how outrageous the scenarios sound. in this way, it's perfectly fine for Lebouf to take himself seriously. That might be annoying in interviews, but that's what you need to be in a von trier movie.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Alexandro on August 19, 2012, 08:17:50 AM
What exactly do you mean when you say that Von Trier's films lack "sophistication"? As opposed to what other filmmakers who do pack that sophistication in their films?
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on August 30, 2012, 07:13:28 PM
Shia LaBeouf Sent Real Sex Tapes to 'Nymphomaniac' Director Lars von Trier
The actor says he gave the Danish helmer actual clips of himself and his girlfriend, stylist Karolyn Pho, to land his role.
Source: THR

Shia LaBeouf continues his TMI -- er, Lawless -- media tour with his latest revelation that he sent actual sex tapes of himself and his girlfriend to Lars von Trier to land his role in the Danish director's upcoming movie Nymphomaniac.

"I sent him videotapes of me and my girlfriend having sex, and that's how I got the job," the former Disney Channel star told Chelsea Handler during an interview that aired Wednesday night on E! Entertainment's Chelsea Lately.

It's unclear whether LaBeouf, who is dating stylist Karolyn Pho, was joking, but he's previously said the sex scenes in the erotic two-part drama will be the real deal.

"[The movie] is what you think it is," LaBeouf recently told MTV News. "It is Lars von Trier, making a movie about what he's making. For instance, there's a disclaimer at the top of the script that basically says we're doing it for real. Everything that is illegal, we'll shoot in blurred images. Other than that, everything is happening."

Nymphomaniac, which marks Von Trier's first film since 2011's Melancholia, will chronicle the sexual adventures of a woman (Charlotte Gainsbourg) from her youth through age 50. Stellan Skarsgard plays her husband, and Nicole Kidman has suggested she might have a small role in the film, which goes into production next month.

As for why he wanted the part, LaBeouf told Handler: "I don't know what it's gonna be until I get out there. I know he's a very dangerous director, I know we're trying to do something different. It's not your typical film. It's about what it's about."

LaBeouf, who recently went full-frontal for an artsy Sigur Ros music video, made his sex-tape revelation on the heels of a USA Today interview in which he said he dropped acid to prepare for a key scene in his upcoming crime comedy The Necessary Death of Charlie Countryman, which is in preproduction.

"There's a way to do an acid trip like Harold & Kumar, and there's a way to be on acid," LaBeouf said. "What I know of acting, Sean Penn actually strapped up to that (electric) chair in Dead Man Walking. These are the guys that I look up to."

LeBeouf also has said he was high one day on the set of Charlie Countryman, slated to be released at Sundance next year.

And, as The Hollywood Reporter previously reported, LaBeouf, best known for his roles in the Transformers movies and the latest Indiana Jones installment, has traded standard studio fare for indie films.

"I'm done," he declared. "There's no room for being a visionary in the studio system. It literally cannot exist. You give Terrence Malick a movie like Transformers, and he's f---ed. There's no way for him to exist in that world."

Talking about the indie film world, LeBeouf added: "These dudes are a miracle. They give you the money, and they trust you -- [unlike the studios, which] give you the money, then get on a plane and come to the set and stick a finger up your ass and chase you around for five months."

Lawless, a bootlegging drama set in Depression-era Virginia, also stars Gary Oldman, Tom Hardy, Guy Pearce, Jessica Chastain and Mia Wasikowska. The movie hit theaters Wednesday.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: polkablues on August 30, 2012, 07:16:19 PM
I'm growing increasingly convinced that "Shia LaBeouf" will turn out to have been Sacha Baron Cohen's greatest character.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Sleepless on August 31, 2012, 10:03:31 AM
After reading that article I once again am pissed that it's actors like Heath Ledger who die.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on October 10, 2012, 08:21:54 AM
Uma Thurman Joins Cast of Lars Von Trier's 'Nymphomaniac'
The hard-core erotic drama is currently in production in Germany.
Source: THR
 
CANNES - Uma Thurman has joined the all-star cast of Lars von Trier's epic pornographic drama Nymphomaniac.

The film, which von Trier is producing as two feature length dramas, is currently shooting in and around Cologne, Germany. It is unclear what role Thurman will play in the film. This will be Thurman's first role in a Von Trier film.


Nymphomaniac stars Charlotte Gainsbourg as Jo, a self- diagnosed Nymphomaniac. One night, an old bachelor, played by Stellan Skarsgard, finds her in an alley, badly beaten. He takes her home to nurse her back to health, while she recounts to him her life of erotic adventure.

Shia LaBeouf, Jamie Bell, Stacy Martin, Connie Nielsen and Christian Slater are also among the cast. Nyphomaniac will be released in both soft and hard core versions with a bow planned for 2013.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on October 18, 2012, 07:23:14 AM
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes!
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Pwaybloe on October 18, 2012, 09:18:30 AM
Freudian.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Stefen on October 18, 2012, 02:35:53 PM
Charlotte Gainsbourg as Jo, a self- diagnosed Nymphomaniac.

You can't self-diagnose yourself with a medical condition. Unless she has a medical degree, she's just Jo, the self-described Ho.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Sleepless on October 18, 2012, 03:53:54 PM
Copyright that so they can pay you for the inevitable special "self-described ho" edition DVD.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: polkablues on October 18, 2012, 07:39:23 PM
Uma Thurman Joins Cast of Lars Von Trier's 'Nymphomaniac'

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes!

It's 2012.  Moderate your expectations.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on October 29, 2012, 07:24:08 AM
I'm just exited for everything about this project. And Uma will be great in a Trier film.


The girl who will play young Gainsbourg:
(http://www.premiermodelmanagement.com/ViewPreview.aspx?refnum=150977)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nLN-x_a_lv8/TmlAAm9GjsI/AAAAAAAACuQ/ggH3fGgqJe8/s640/image81.jpg)

http://vimeo.com/44635748
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Reelist on October 29, 2012, 09:33:54 AM
Charlotte Gainsbourg is another one of those onscreen crushes of mine. There's just something about her. This movie could either ruin that for me or totally fucking honor it. I hope both.


She followed me on twitter once for about 3 days and then I commented on how much I hate my fat tits and she stopped. Guess she couldn't relate  :yabbse-undecided:
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Pubrick on October 29, 2012, 11:15:01 AM
why would celebrities follow nobodies on twitter?

is it the reverse effect for them? like we plebs feel thrilled to be on the inside of some important person's glamorous life, so they would love the idea of being in direct contact with a filthy parasite?

actually, that must be the exact reason sicko gainsbourg added you, and also why she likes von trier.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Reelist on October 29, 2012, 03:58:24 PM
I think they do it to show appreciation for their fans. Nothing more, really. Whenever someone I truly admire follows me, I get embarrassed about the shit I post flooding their feed. Makes me feels so inadequate  :yabbse-sad:

but I'll tell you exactly what I did that got her to follow me, just this dumb observation. I said:

"There's something sexy about a woman with an underbite. Here's looking at you @CharlotteGainsbourg"


Pretty sure she was fully expecting we could hook up and fuck, but my fat tits were the dealbreaker.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Drenk on February 09, 2013, 04:55:10 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/73455_10150279177394970_1281609002_n.jpg)


Ok...

Her vagina is back.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Stefen on February 09, 2013, 05:49:59 PM
White girls getting deep dicked by black dudes on film isn't anything new. 

Oh, right, LVT has never been out of Northern Europe.

(http://www.festival-cannes.fr/thumb.php?sourceDirectory=/assets/Image/Direct/&sourceFile=006177.jpg&predefinedSize=fiche_film_realisator)"BEHOLD! For I have invented a new cinematic genre! Allow me to introduce you to............INTERRACIAL PORNOGRAPHY!"
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: The Ultimate Badass on February 09, 2013, 11:10:32 PM
Now we know why it's called Nymph()maniac and not Nymph||maniac.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on February 10, 2013, 07:01:53 AM
White girls getting deep dicked by black dudes on film isn't anything new. 

Lars von Trier still lives in 1943.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Lottery on February 10, 2013, 07:09:13 AM
White girls getting deep dicked by black dudes on film isn't anything new. 

Lars von Trier still lives in 1943.

I wonder if that helps explain those Hitler comments.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on February 10, 2013, 07:15:18 AM
NYMPHOMANIAC ready for release ultimo 2013
By ALEXANDRA EMILIA KIDA

First there was one film, then there was two and now there's so much material that anything is possible...

After 268 script pages, 11 weeks of shooting and an immense postproduction with over 100 hours of material to follow, Lars von Trier will complete his upcoming NYMPHOMANIAC ultimo 2013. Marking the multifaceted universe of NYMPHOMANIAC, an additional still is hereby released.
 
The much talked about NYMPHOMANIAC has been the center of speculations ever since the project was announced – and rightfully so; With several references to a topic that never goes out of style - sex - the remarkable story of Joe, a 50-year-old self-diagnosed nymphomaniac looking back at her life, stars the biggest international ensemble cast ever in the history of Trier’s filmmaking and it contains visually aesthetic choices never before seen in a Trier film.

Long time business partner and friend with Trier, CEO of Zentropa Peter Aalbæk Jensen: "This film will probably be Lars von Trier's masterpiece. It contains so much potential in terms of humor, grandiose and visual quality and shows a Lars von Trier at his best. Lars has currently edited a quarter of the material and for a merchant like me it brings a smile to my face watching lust and laughter go hand in hand with a drama such as this. This is Lars’ most ambitious film to date".

Handling the international sales of NYMPHOMANIAC, TrustNordisk is preselling the film at this year’s European Film Market. Lucky enough to make the market’s deadlines last minute, a promo of the first part of the film has been produced for a closed buyers-only event.

CEO of TrustNordisk Rikke Ennis about the plans for release: "NYMPHOMANIAC is in every way controversial and exciting and I'm convinced that the extensive material and time given allows us to produce a campaign that rocks the entire cinema landscape"

NYMPHOMANIAC includes an international ensemble cast consisting of Charlotte Gainsbourg and Stellan Skarsgård along with Stacy Martin, Shia LaBeouf, Jamie Bell, Christian Slater, Uma Thurman, Willem Dafoe, Connie Nielsen, Mia Goth, Udo Kier, Jean-Marc Barr, Caroline Goodall, Kate Ashfield, Saskia Reeves, Sophie Kennedy Clark, Hugo Speer, Felicity Gilbert, Michaël Pas, Jesper Christensen, Jens Albinus, Nicolas Bro, Cyron Melville, Shanti Roney, Omar Shargawi, Tania Carlin, Severin von Hoensbroech, Peter Gilbert Cotton and many more.

The film is a wild and poetic story of a woman’s journey from birth to the age of 50 as told by the main character, the self-diagnosed nymphomaniac, Joe (Gainsbourg). On a cold winter’s evening the old, charming bachelor, Seligman (Skarsgård), finds Joe beaten up in an alley. He brings her home to his flat where he cares for her wounds while asking her about her life. He listens intently as Joe over the next 8 chapters recounts the lushly branched-out and multi faceted story of her life, rich in associations and interjecting incidents.

NYMPHOMANIAC is produced by Louise Vesth for Zentropa Entertainments in co-production with Bettina Brokemper for Zentropa International Köln, Marianne Slot for Slot Machine and Bert Hamelinck for Caviar and with support from The Danish Film Institute, Filmstiftung Nordrhein-Westfalen, Eurimages, Deutscher Filmförderfonds, Nordic Film & TV Fond, Centre national du cinéma et l'image animée, Belgian Tax Shelter and Flanders Audiovisual Fund and in cooperation with DR and Film i Väst and with participation from Arte, Canal+ and The West Danish Film Fund and with development support of the Media Programme.

http://www.trustnordisk.com/content/nymphomaniac-ready-release-ultimo-2013-0
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on February 10, 2013, 07:33:57 AM
White girls getting deep dicked by black dudes on film isn't anything new. 

Lars von Trier still lives in 1943.

I wonder if that helps explain those Hitler comments.

oh, congratulations for getting the (not-so-very-funny) joke.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Pubrick on February 10, 2013, 09:15:25 AM
why are you guys acting like a bunch of haters? von trier is at the top of his game right now!

and besides he already had a white girl getting drilled by BBC in manderlay.

you're gonna miss how fucking good this movie is gonna be if you keep being dickheads.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Mel on February 10, 2013, 11:05:18 AM
why are you guys acting like a bunch of haters? von trier is at the top of his game right now!

As far I remember, he had big following of hecklers, but what you expect? He is radical movie maker from Europe, not American crowd pleaser. His nazi comment, didn't help at all.

So much controversy around his newest film won't hurt. Probably more people will see it. What surprises me is that people literate in cinema jump on the bandwagon, even before seeing movie. Lars von Trier used explicit nudity before, he even produced pure porn before.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on February 10, 2013, 12:03:10 PM
why are you guys acting like a bunch of haters? von trier is at the top of his game right now!

and besides he already had a white girl getting drilled by BBC in manderlay.

you're gonna miss how fucking good this movie is gonna be if you keep being dickheads.

take it easy. lars von trier is one of the directors that inspires me the most. I love him and I love all of his films. I don't understand why I am being a dickhead for joking about him.

and yes, he REALLY is at the top of his game right now. the trilogy he is working on right now should be considered one of his greatest work yet. that is if Nymphomaniac is as good as Antichrist and Melancholia and at this point, I don't see any reason for doubting that.

Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on February 18, 2013, 09:02:12 AM
(http://film-book.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/shia-labeouf-nymphomaniac-01-1280x720.jpg)

I also found this quote from Peter Aalbæk Jensen;

"Four editors were working around the clock to meet the Cannes deadline, but we had to give it up – after 268 script pages, 11 weeks of shooting and with 100 hours of material it would have been rape to finish the two films in time for the festival."

Does this mean that the two films will be released at the same time?
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Cloudy on May 02, 2013, 05:19:57 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/0PZrYDR.jpg)
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on May 02, 2013, 01:33:02 PM
After being with those two black guys, wouldn't it be more:

(http://parenthesistheater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/parentheses.jpg)
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: 03 on May 03, 2013, 12:28:57 AM
owned.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Reelist on May 03, 2013, 07:45:34 AM
it's called whoreshadowing, mac.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: 03 on May 03, 2013, 08:50:54 AM
(http://spinningplatters.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/A.perfect.circle.mer_.de_.noms_.jpg)
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: ono on May 03, 2013, 12:07:11 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/Sigurros%28%29.jpg)
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Drenk on May 03, 2013, 12:22:22 PM
)(
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: 03 on May 03, 2013, 12:24:51 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqlqmorgQA1qcnueyo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: diggler on May 04, 2013, 04:29:00 PM
(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/04/29/c01-sline-logo-30_001-4_3_r536_c534.jpg?1b79b3da202957124496e3768cfb7b67cdb10c81)
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Cloudy on May 16, 2013, 03:30:16 AM
LOL
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/977082_146202532229829_1900836791_o.jpg)
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on May 16, 2013, 04:49:11 AM
Cannes: Lars Von Trier’s ‘Nymphomaniac’ Sets Christmas Day Release In Denmark
Source: Deadline

Leave it to Danish provocateur Lars Von Trier to open a four-hour sex-o-rama on Christmas Day. Zentropa Entertainments and Scandinavian distributor Nordisk Film have set the world premiere of Nymphomaniac for Copenhagen in December with the local theatrical release on December 25. As Zentropa CEO Peter Aalbæk Jensen says, “What’s more Christmassy than a film like this?” Magnolia has U.S. rights.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: polkablues on May 16, 2013, 05:10:38 PM
Is that Christian Slater down there?  I don't want to watch Christian Slater fucking, you guys.  Udo Kier, yes, OBVIOUSLY, but not goddamn Christian Slater.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on May 21, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
Cannes: 'Nymphomaniac' Producer Reveals Graphics Are Used in 'Groundbreaking' Sex Scenes
A producer for Lars von Trier's hotly anticipated two films tells THR of the sex scenes: "Above the waist it will be the star and the below the waist it will be the doubles.”
Source: THR

The details of Lars von Trier's upcoming two-part sex epic Nymphomaniac are being tightly guarded, with producers Zentropa and sales agent TrustNordisk engaging in a teasing slow reveal with fans and the media.

So far, Zentropa has put out just three photos of the film -- two stills and a porn-inspired cast photo -- along with the official poster showing an erotically charged design evocative of female genitalia.

But a few details of the hotly anticipated project have slipped out. Speaking to The Hollywood Reporter in Cannes, Nymphomaniac producer Louise Vesth provided a sneak peek into what we can expect. Vesth confirmed that the doubled-barreled feature will include graphic sex scenes between the members of the all-star cast, including Charlotte Gainsbourg, Stellan Skarsgard, Shia LaBeouf and Uma Thurman.

For the truly hard-core elements of the film, von Trier used body doubles for the stars. But, Vesth revealed, the Danish director will use digital technology to combine the actors' non-explicit displays with the pornographic performance of the doubles.

“We shot the actors pretending to have sex and then had the body doubles, who really did have sex, and in post we will digital-impose the two,” Vesth explained. “So above the waist it will be the star and the below the waist it will be the doubles.”

The extensive post-production work required to create such match-ups is one reason why von Trier's film wasn't ready for Cannes. Last week, the producers announced that the film would not do the festival circuit at all, bypassing Venice and Toronto to instead go out first in Denmark, with distributor Nordisk Film holding a red carpet gala premiere in Copenhagen ahead of a local release on Dec. 25.

Vesth didn't rule out that the film could be ready before then but suggested it was unlikely. “The film is in two parts but it is really one film, so [von Trier] has to finish both parts first,” she said.

At the Berlin market in February, Trust screened five minutes of images from the first part of Nymphomaniac for international distributors who pre-bought the picture, and some in the Danish industry have seen more extensive footage. Buyers speaking to THR would give only vague descriptions of the film's imagery, saying Trust made them sign confidentiality agreements to not reveal too much.

Vesth was a bit more forthcoming, confirming that von Trier will use experimental graphical elements in the two Nymphomaniac films, using double exposures and imposing words and symbols over the action as part of his storytelling. One buyer who screened early footage of the first film called the technique “groundbreaking...like nothing I've ever seen.”

But sex and style are apparently only a small part of Nymphomaniac.

“Lars has thrown everything in this one. It's about religion, about God, about philosophy,” said Vesth, adding that she hopes von Trier ends his self-imposed ban on talking publicly, which followed his controversial Nazi comments in Cannes two years ago. “There's so much to talk about with this movie. I hope he changes his mind and starts giving interviews again.”
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Tictacbk on May 21, 2013, 05:26:45 PM
For the truly hard-core elements of the film, von Trier used body doubles for the stars. But, Vesth revealed, the Danish director will use digital technology to combine the actors' non-explicit displays with the pornographic performance of the doubles.

“We shot the actors pretending to have sex and then had the body doubles, who really did have sex, and in post we will digital-impose the two,” Vesth explained. “So above the waist it will be the star and the below the waist it will be the doubles.”

Maybe it's just me, but this strikes me as a waste of time and money.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on May 31, 2013, 12:13:59 PM
Lars Von Trier Gets Gagged, Reveals Chapter Titles For 'Nymphomaniac' & Introduces New Film Genre
Source: Playlist
 
We can't remember the last time a Lars Von Trier movie got this kind of marketing rollout, but then again, there hasn't really been a film like "Nymphomaniac." With the story detailing one woman's sexual history, the promise of hardcore sex for those who want it (there will be a softcore cut too) and this cast photo, it looks like Von Trier not only will be pushing people's buttons, he'll be entirely rearranging them. Revealed today were another couple of morsels from the movie.

The chapter titles for the two volume, eight-part movie has been revealed and they're actually fairly tame...for the most part. Though we do have to wonder -- is chapter 6 really making a reference to fisting? If that's not enough, LVT proposes that he is introducing a film genre with "Nymphomaniac" called Digressionism. Okay, then. Anyway, this is all the start of Marvel-esque rollout for the movie that kicks off next month, with teasers, still and more details planned to drop for each chapter until the film's Christmas Day debut overseas.

No word yet on when Magnolia Releasing will give U.S. audiences a taste but hopefully we won't be waiting too long. Here's the official press release and full chapter titles below, along with a new image of LVT gagged by duct tape. Obviously.

In 2011 Lars von Trier decided to refrain from all public statements and interviews. To this date he has kept his word.

But his stories are still being told worldwide and Nymphomaniac will be no exception. Using a structure known from literature Nymphomaniac consists of chapters, encapsulating both VOLUME I and VOLUME II and during the next eight months, starting from June and like domino pieces counting down to the release, small bites of these chapters will be published exclusively by a community of selected newspapers around the world.

Each chapter teaser is defined by a headline, a still and a short narrative that playfully unveils the multilayered universe of Nymphomaniac with which Lars von Trier wants to introduce a new film genre: Digressionism.

[Digress /dɪˈgrɛs, daɪ-/ verb: Depart from the main subject]

Chapter 1: The Complete Angler
Chapter 2: Jerome
Chapter 3: Mrs. H
Chapter 4: Delirium
Chapter 5: The Little Organ School
Chapter 6: The Eastern & Western Church (The Silent Duck)
Chapter 7: The Mirror
Chapter 8: The Gun


(http://thefilmstage.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/von_trier-620x826.jpg)
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Lottery on May 31, 2013, 06:47:29 PM
White girls getting deep dicked by black dudes on film isn't anything new. 

Oh, right, LVT has never been out of Northern Europe.

(http://www.festival-cannes.fr/thumb.php?sourceDirectory=/assets/Image/Direct/&sourceFile=006177.jpg&predefinedSize=fiche_film_realisator)"BEHOLD! For I have invented a new cinematic genre! Allow me to introduce you to............INTERRACIAL PORNOGRAPHY!"

I guess you were kinda right.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on June 04, 2013, 12:49:27 PM
Someone on IMDB posted this. It's a quote from some swedish book.

Minor spoilers ahead:

"The film is divided into chapters. And Trier first asks me to look away. There is one thing I'm not allowed to see because it would reveal the whole point of the chapter. He then pushes some keys on the keyboard and a scene starts on the middle screen.
Stellan Skarsgård sits down and wears a black, knitted sweater. Behind him, the walls are yellow and worn. One corner of a room. He speaks English.
"Can I ask what happened to the silent duck?" he asks Charlotte Gainsbourg. The answer comes in the form of a flashback. A scene in which a man forms a beak with four fingers, spits on them and stick them up between her buttocks.
We initially avoid laughter followed by comments. Then, he plays the film's introduction. With thin white writing it says "Nymphomaniac Vol 1". Then it gets dark on the screen. And for a longer while you only hear sounds. A train, I think of first. A cracking, at least. Wind, maybe even rain. And something that could be an old sign that gives way to the wind. When the picture finally comes you see an alley where snow gently falls. Water flowing down the yellow and brown walls. Then a blower. A garbage can. And the water that hits a ribbed sheet metal roof. Rust and water. Age and wear. Unmistakable Trieresque beauty. And there she is, Charlotte Gainsbourg, in the middle of the alley. With blood on her hand.
"You don't want to say anything at all that I can quote?" I try one last time when we later say goodbye in the parking lot.
And I can't even quote his reply. "
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on June 04, 2013, 03:49:20 PM
Nymphomaniac star Stacy Martin talks sex, nudity and porn doubles
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/nymphomaniac-star-stacy-martin-talks-sex-nudity-and-porn-doubles-8500258.html

(http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8499953.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/martin.jpg)

The unknown actress Stacy Martin, 22, is Danish film director Lars von Trier's latest muse. The former model with Premier Model Management, who was too short for the runway and looks like Jane Birkin, stars in his new movie, Nymphomaniac, which follows the erotic life of a woman from birth to the age of 50.

The provocative film in two parts, which features real sex scenes with porn doubles in softcore and hardcore versions, will premiere at the Cannes Film Festival in May.

Starring alongside Shia LaBeouf as his girlfriend, Martin is the younger version of Joe aged 15 to 31, a nymphomaniac, played later in life by Charlotte Gainsbourg – so its handy Martin looks like Gainsbourg's mother Birkin.

"What scared me wasn't the nakedness but it was interacting naked. Shia was very professional but we didn't actually do anything sexual," says Martin meekly, who is sitting in a café in London's Covent Garden. "That was left to the porn doubles. It's a totally different industry. The porn stars finish the job off for you. I never thought I'd meet my porn double," she laughs.

Martin remembers when she met von Trier in Copenhagen last year. She had always admired his films including Dogville starring Nicole Kidman, Melancholia starring Kirsten Dunst and Antichrist, starring Willem Dafoe and Gainsbourg.

"I'd only had three hours sleep because I was so nervous. I decided to stay awake on the plane so my eyes weren't puffy. Suddenly he was there in front of me, I was speechless. We just stood there starring at each other for a very long time," she says.

Von Trier and Martin talked a lot about what she could bring to the table as far as the character was concerned. "We were clear this film wasn't about nakedness, but that it was part of the story. So I was comfortable with it. Lars wanted to celebrate the female desire and show we have flaws, we are human beings and not perfect," she says. "There was a lot of pressure on me as the vehicle of his vision. He said to me, 'Just take it day by day, scene by scene. It will all come together.' There is an element of trust. I had to keep remembering that he chose me, or else I wouldn't be there if I wasn't capable. Sometimes I was rubbish and he allowed me to get that out of the way."

But it was challenging for Martin, who had no acting experience, to be thrust in front of the camera as LaBeouf's assertive girlfriend, with more naked scenes than most actresses have in a lifetime. It was filmed over 55 days in and around Cologne. The first part of the film is about Joe's younger life, the second part is when Gainsbourg takes over. The two parts of the film do not follow on from one another but are interwined.

"As the younger Joe, she is aware she is a sex addict but not to the point that it is a disease. At 15, she's just discovering men and friendships in the 1960s," says Martin. "It is a very interesting relationship she has with her boyfriend.

Martin, who is "itching" for her next role, joined an A-list cast including Uma Thurman, who plays one of her lover's wives, Christian Slater who plays her father, and Swedish actor Stellan Skarsgard, as an older bachelor, who listens to the nymphomaniac's life story told through Gainsbourg.

"In one scene I wear disgusting tight red high-waisted spandex pants which were absolutely vile with a zip and slutty tights and a tiny top like a handkerchief for a night out on the pull," she says in horror. "I looked in the mirror and kept telling myself, 'You can do this'. But the film is about a lot more than sex. There is a lot of humour which I hope people will understand. It is a story – it's not a porn movie."

The half-French Martin, who goes out with Daniel Blumberg, the singer of indie band Yuck, grew up in Paris. She lived in Japan from the age of seven to 13 with her dad, Rene, a hair stylist and her mum Annette – then she returned to Paris until she moved to London aged 18 hoping to make it as an actress. Modelling was just a side job to fund her life in London – she saved up to do private acting classes, studied the Meisner technique of acting at the Actors' Temple, and studied Media and Cultural Studies at the London College of Communications.

She had two auditions in London and one audition in Copenhagen for von Trier's film. "When a few weeks later I heard I got the part, it was like, 'OK, don't freak out'."

She says von Trier is "extremely quiet" on set and "gives a lot of freedom". "He doesn't give you tons of instructions, just lets you improvise. He will sit and see what you come up with. To work in that way is fabulous." A lot of the film was shot on a handheld camera. "Whatever happens, he gives a lot of power to the actors he works with. You are not like a puppet. He moulds the work rather than makes it concrete."

She says she never sat down with her older self, played by Gainsbourg to discuss the character but the two performances were allowed to merge naturally. "I haven't seen Charlotte's scenes but I've heard we match pretty well. Originally Lars didn't want to cast me so the fact I look like her mother Jane Birkin was not the reason why I got the part. I got it because I did a good screen test," she says.

Peter Aalbaek Jensen, von Trier's producing partner, claimed the director "wanted to see the sexual arousement of a girl" on screen. Skarsgard told The Hollywood Reporter the film is "sexually explicit but, believe me, it will be a very bad wanking movie". LaBeouf said: "I know he's a very dangerous director; I know we are trying to do something different."

The film goes back and forth over the years looking at Joe's life and her background – often scenes were filmed spontaneously. Martin says: "What was challenging to play was her determination. I'm the kind of person who will make sure everybody is OK. She is the opposite – she is very focused on what she wants and very mathematical. It was also challenging because it was my first film and it was with Lars and other big actors and I thought, 'This is a big shoe to step into'. But I just had to jump in there."

She is already excited about attending the premiere in a few months, but also wary. "I'm quite nervous about my parents seeing the film. My mum is naturally feeling quite protective. It's quite embarrassing for me to see myself have sex. I might be hiding my eyes."
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on June 28, 2013, 09:16:59 AM
Clip


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3YpQ-tIs7Y
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on June 28, 2013, 11:19:22 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9tv9fB50ShU/Uc2kQZLAbxI/AAAAAAAABZ0/0w5D_y7Thug/s640/1016609_158830947633654_2049365078_n.jpg)

SPOILERS

"How does an ordinary bag of chocolate sweets became a symbol of sexual victory?

As Joe and her experienced friend B embark on a train trip, they bet on how many men they can seduce on the ride.

The grand prize is a delicious bag of chocolate sweets, and it soon becomes clear to Joe that in order to win, she needs to lure the prey into biting the hook like a skilled fisherman"
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 28, 2013, 11:36:27 AM
Please mark spoilers! That wasn't a horrific one, but still...
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on June 28, 2013, 11:47:50 AM
I am sorry. I didn't think of it as a spoiler.

the sound in that clip is terrific! it makes me think of an interview where he talks about antonioni. how he at a very young age saw a scene from la notte on television and how that scene made him realize how "beautiful the movie universe was". in the scene, the two main characters is sitting in a car talking in a traffic jam, and the sound from outside is ridiculous low, while their voices is really clear in the sound mix. he loved how that made the atmosphere unrealistic and abstract. it may not be the same thing here, but I do think the sound in that clip makes the whole scene really creepy and builds up the tension in a great way.

I don't know what I think of the blonde girls acting, but anyway... good little tease. I can't wait for the actual act.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on July 10, 2013, 06:26:45 PM
Am I the only one who's looking forward to this like crazy? Or isn't here anything to say about it yet?

Please be my lover, Lars.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on July 26, 2013, 01:59:38 AM
(http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2013/07/25/25_nymphomaniac.o.jpg/a_560x375.jpg)

Chapter 2:
Jerôme

Spoiler ahead!


"Love is just lust with jealousy added"
Though love is a shallow feeling in the eyes of the cynical nymphomaniac, young Joe is met by forces penetrating her armoured defences.
His name is Jerôme."


More to come today!
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on July 26, 2013, 08:15:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq0MiGLp4aE
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on August 30, 2013, 12:12:25 PM
Clip - Chapter 3: Mrs. H


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAk_uhJMqw
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Just Withnail on September 12, 2013, 07:09:41 AM
Via Montages.no (http://montages.no/2013/09/eksklusivt-10-ferske-avsloringer-om-lars-von-triers-nye-erotiske-drama-nymphomaniac/)

Exclusive: 10 revelations about Lars von Trier’s erotic drama Nymphomaniac

A whole world of cinephiles are waiting with bated breath for Lars von Trier‘s ambitious and sure-to-be-controversial Nymphomaniac. From reliable sources, Montages has gained access to exclusive information containing new details previously not known about the film.
Nymphomaniac was not finalised in time for this spring’s Cannes festival (where von Trier has long ago been welcome again after the 2011 scandal). There has since been much speculation about when and how the film will be released. In von Trier’s home country of Denmark, the premiere will take place on Christmas Day 2013 (a gala premiere in Copenhagen will be organised earlier in December), and the film will be theatrically released in Norway in early 2014.

Nymphomaniac is about one woman’s erotic journey through life, from birth until almost the age of 50. The story is told by the nymphomaniac Joe (Stacy Martin, Charlotte Gainsbourg) through eight flashbacks. When a charming bachelor named Seligman (Stellan Skarsgård) finds Joe laying in the street, beaten black and blue, he takes her home to care for her. Soon she starts to talk openly about a life that has been eventful, to put it mildly.


The ten items below reveal details of the film, but not the story itself – thus this article must be said to be spoiler-free.


1. At present Nymphomaniac is five hours long, and according to plan it will consist of two volumes, each two and a half hours long. The intention is to release them simultaneously – they are not meant to be experienced as two films. The material is massive, however, and it is still in the cards to add a TV series to the theatrically released films.

2. As already announced, Nymphomaniac consists of eight chapters. Each part has its own stylistic approach, dictated by content and tone. Some parts have a relatively ordinary formal language, but others are more experimental. One of the chapters is shot in black-and-white. The film is shot in Cinemascope, except for one chapter in 1.85:1.

3. The last chapter is clearly inspired by Andrei Tarkovsky (to whom Antichrist was dedicated). In contrast to Antichrist and Melancholia, Nymphomaniac does not have any slow motion. «What is that about? It is so gay!», von Trier is said to have joked to his crew.

4. One chapter is exclusively shot with a static camera. This is not done in a tableau-like aesthetic approach, of the type one can find in Roy Andersson‘s films, but in an almost documentary approach, with the camera resting on faces and bodies, as rigid as a surveillance camera, but much closer to the objects.

5. The film’s title card is not written with chalk on a board, like in the two previous films. Due to the (seemingly) thematic similarity between these three films, one might have thought that Nymphomaniac would be the last part of a trilogy. This could have been achieved by presenting the title in the same way as the two previous films, but this is not the case. The opening credits are described as being in the style of Woody Allen.

6. Von Trier’s approach has been improvisational and the result is almost «like a student film». Contrary to the proclamations of producer Peter Aalbæk Jensen, the film is said to be much less marked by virtuosity than von Trier’s two previous films. It can be described as big and visionary in the sense of being an epic story containing many themes, places and characters, but its visual expression is mainly muted. Nymphomaniac is described as some sort of summation of Lars von Trier’s career – and not least his interest in and identification with women.

7. The film contains extensive archive footage, which helps loosen up the film and drag it into unexpected directions. These elements are mainly videos that von Trier has found on YouTube. As part of the promotion of Nymphomaniac, Von Trier has said that he is launching a new genre called “digressionism”, and consequently we are now one step closer to understanding what this means.

8. As announced, the film has a framing story, where Charlotte Gainsbourg‘s character Joe tells her erotic life story to Stellan Skarsgård. All eight chapters are flashbacks from Joe’s life, and the story starts in the late 1960s until today.

9. Since the story of Nymphomaniac is unfolding over six decades, the film must necessarily be marked by the various periods. This dimension is said to be toned down, however, and is mainly expressed through the costumes (the first chapter is supposed to be less timeless than the others, as also indicated by the teaser).

10. The film is said to be very funny – at times closer to pure comedy than anything von Trier has made since The Idiots and The Boss of It All. Its black humour is mostly present in the film’s first half, however, since the story gradually grows darker and more tragic.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Tortuga on September 17, 2013, 12:40:09 PM
and the result is almost «like a student film».

Reading this, I actually like the idea of approaching his entire filmography in this way. For better and worse, he really is a bit like a 60-year-old film student.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Just Withnail on September 19, 2013, 10:30:08 AM
Via Montages.no (http://montages.no/2013/09/eksklusivt-nymphomaniac-lanseres-pa-kino-uten-pornografiske-scener-hardcore-versjon-til-cannes/)

Exclusive: Nymphomaniac to be theatrically released without pornographic scenes – Lars von Trier possibly returns to Cannes with hardcore version in 2014
 
Last week Montages.no reported 10 exclusive new details about Lars von Trier‘s erotic epic Nymphomaniac. Today we can bring even more previously unknown news about the film. Sources close to the production whom we regard as reliable claim that the film that will be theatrically released in Denmark and Norway – respectively in December and January – will not be the already infamous hardcore version with pornographic sex scenes, but a milder softcore version. According to our sources, the hardcore version shall be «saved» for next year’s Cannes festival.

Having screened all of Lars von Trier‘s feature films (except The Boss of It All), the Cannes festival is reportedly very eager to show Nymphomaniac. It is already known that von Trier is welcome back after the unfortunate Melancholia press conference in 2011, after which the director was declared persona non grata. The festival organisers were probably very disappointed when von Trier and his team earlier this year announced that the film would not be ready for Cannes, although this was a stated goal.

Now sources say that the already controversial hardcore version, where the lower part of the actors is said to be digitally substituted with bodies of pornographic performers, will not be theatrically released in Denmark and Norway. This is quite sensational, since many have taken it for granted that the softcore version was exclusively intended for markets outside Europe – which is generally quite liberal in regards to sexual explicit material in films.

This is where the Cannes film festival enters the picture. The desire with them to screen the film there is obviously strong, and it is reportedly probable that the premiere of the “uncensored” hardcore version will take place during next year’s festival. Whether it will be screened in competition is unknown, but this is less likely since it has already been theatrically released in several countries, albeit not in the same version.

Everyone who has looked forward to see the auteur go completely berserk with graphic presentations of sex consequently has to be a bit more patient. It is not inconceivable that the hardcore version ultimately has to be experienced on DVD and Blu-ray – and possibly in a Cinematheque for the Nordic audience – for those who are unable to catch it in Cannes (given that this plan will be confirmed – it is still possible that the producers or the festival changes their mind).

In any case, we look forward, as unreservedly as before, to experience Lars von Trier‘s new work – also in more modest form. Even though the Danish enfant terrible always wants to provoke, it is the content itself – the groundbreaking concepts, the instruction of actors and the visuality – which make him live up to his own words: «The best director in the world».
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Neil on September 19, 2013, 12:46:04 PM
This is probably better for the "embarrass yourself with movies you've never seen thread," but I've never watched anything LVT made and most of the things that i've read about him makes me want to keep it that way.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 19, 2013, 01:06:43 PM
I'm one of the few people here who will say you shouldn't feel embarrassed by it. You're not missing much.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: polkablues on September 19, 2013, 06:38:14 PM
At least see Breaking the Waves and Dancer in the Dark. There's more genuine humanity and purpose in those two movies than in most directors' entire careers.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on September 19, 2013, 06:50:18 PM
I'm one of the few people here who will say you shouldn't feel embarrassed by it. You're not missing much.

If your post gets any more likes, we're going to have to consider a temporary ban.

But in all seriousness, what's wrong with LVT?

I can understand if someone is squeamish or doesn't enjoy a punishing viewing experience, but the dismissive "not missing much" would never occur to me. He's hard to beat for sheer impact and profundity. I think I was unable to close my jaw for several weeks after seeing Dancer in the Dark.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: jenkins on September 19, 2013, 09:48:41 PM
for the crowd:

Quote
There's something impish about the way von Trier uses the question to class himself with the all-time greats. He's hardly uncontroversial. Many feel he's just a sadistic provocateur. Yet he is the filmmaker every cool filmmaker wants to be. Paul Thomas Anderson said he would "carry Lars von Trier's luggage anywhere."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/3611208/I-like-to-be-the-man-everyone-hates.html
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Pubrick on September 20, 2013, 01:01:11 AM
y'all be trippin, he's one of the best ever! he started his own film movement for christ's sake.

i think he thinks of cinema in terms unlike anyone else working today.. which could be said about anyone of course, but you SEE the results of his experimentation in all his films. people go on about the controversial content of his films or the way he treats the actors but many of those same actors have given the performances of their careers in his films.

that's quite the opposite of "not missing much".. just in that aspect, performances, you are missing a lot in terms of raw power on screen by never seeing Emily Watson expose her soul on breaking the waves.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Alexandro on September 20, 2013, 01:01:42 AM
This is probably better for the "embarrass yourself with movies you've never seen thread," but I've never watched anything LVT made and most of the things that i've read about him makes me want to keep it that way.

you're wrong.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 20, 2013, 03:55:13 AM
OK, OK, I think my statement was probably gratuitous and deserves an explanation but I was mostly trying to start a discussion.

- First of all, Pubrick is right. If you're missing anything about Lars von Trier films, you're mostly missing great performances. Every actor in every film of his that I've seen is forced to give it all, and they do, and it shows.

- I really like Dancer in the Dark. Probably because it was the first of his that I saw and wasn't prepared at all to being punched so hard in the stomach. Bjork is awesome in it. Awesome! But then...

- then I started to see other LVT movies and yes, to me, these movies feel like nothing else but exploration of human suffering. There's no other way I can describe this, but it started rubbing me the wrong way, so much so that I've never seen Dancer in the Dark again. I'm scared I'll feel the same way about it. It mostly started with Dogville. I was watching the movie and gradually started to feel von Trier was shocking for shock's sake. To him, human beings are mostly terrible, and should suffer for it. A lot. And I'm not against that point of view. I mean, Kubrick didn't really seem to like other people either, but in his films they were treated like human beings, not complete hate machines. That's what I've mostly come to take from these pictures: disdain. Characters are mean because they're mean. I started to feel Lars von Trier behind the camera trying to be a smart-ass, like a kid shouting in my ears: "Hey! Look at me! I'm really gross!"

- When I watched and loved Dancer in the Dark, I was also taken aback by the visual approach to the material. The "real" scenes shot in a very handheld documentary style fashion, and her musical fantasies almost like an MGM classic. When I heard his next would be a brechtian experience I was curious and excited by it. It all felt underwhelming to me. It didn't have the impact I thought it would and it felt again like he was trying to say "look, I'm so radical with my filmmaking!" and in the end I felt he could have done it with regular sets and achieve the same results. And whereas I've always seen brechtian theatre as a way to distance myself from what I'm watching, I felt like here my head was being forced to look at certain things, and I was constantly being shout at "see how fucking horrible everyone is?". All of those feelings confirmed once more in the final minutes. People like to compare it to Barry Lyndon, but I can't find any of the genuine emotion I found in Kubrick's film. People remind me Paul loves the dude, well, Paul loves his characters even more and it shows - I think Paul makes movies out of love and Trier makes them out of frustration and anger. Plus Barry Lyndon or The Master look gorgeous and not a video shot picture with black backgrounds all over. In the first minutes of Melancholia I was rolling my eyes at the CG-heavy images and thinking how fake and terrible it looked, and I came to the conclusion that he just can't find beauty anywhere anymore, and even if he thinks he does, it still looks fake.

- Right now, I'll still watch his movies, I'm looking forward to the Nymph mostly because he's good at concepts. I'll give him this: the dude takes chances and is always goings places. The problem with me is that in the end they are mere exercises, usually dull and overlong and unsubtle. I don't feel anything from his movies, I don't think they look that great, I don't share his point of view on the world. He may have started a cinematic movement, but one I don't particularly care for. And it's funny to think about Dogme 95, because I've recently watched Thomas Vinterberg's "The Hunt" and it felt much more complex and moving than anything Trier has ever done since Dancer in the Dark.

Well, I know many will completely disagree with me but like everything, it comes down to personal taste and I think it mostly tastes really bad.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: jenkins on September 20, 2013, 05:22:12 AM
epr, i appreciated your reply and liked reading it

i don't at all completely disagree. how could i? i can't disagree with you about how feel when you watch von trier's movies, the emotions you experience, and that those emotions seem to you better to avoid or to not portray through imperfections in production, in story, in characters. von trier creates messes that parallel his descriptions of mess, it's true. his behaviors duplicate his burdens, it's true

there's the view that von trier's artistic focus, obtained in part by his existence, generates itself from a world cluttered with meanness. you don't want to see meanness in his movies, yet i'd guess you've seen the meanness of others, experienced their meanness, and have familiarity with the illusions society and personality create to mask meanness and fears of meanness

the emotionally damaging structure of von trier's movies seem to me like an attempt to confront the challenges people face through living. i do think he cares about his characters! awful things happen to them, and they themselves commit awful acts, but i don't think von trier doesn't want them to win the battle. he tends to to depict characters in unconquerable battles, or battles designed for predetermined failure, but i think he cares about them

i don't think he wants his characters to suffer, they just do. it's true there's frustration and anger in his characters, but you can see why, he'll show it like you said, in "dull and overlong and unsubtle" ways. you can't watch a movie of his and not notice some problem. there's always a problem to see, including in his comedy the boss of it all. his particular vision, the way he can't seem to create characters who can puncture torment, testifies for the endurance of an artist like him. if there wasn't a part of him loving his characters, he wouldn't always show how horrible their losses are

i know what you mean about not wanting to rewatch dancer in the dark because you don't want to feel that way again. i'm like that about so many of his movies. i hate some of them and how they ruin my day. i remember a thing ralph ellison said, or maybe he didn't or he said it in a different way (i can't google it), about the nature of hate being related to the nature of love. to love a thing you've got to know it in a specific way, and to hate a thing you've got to know it in a specific way. i did locate a different ellison quote that's applicable:

“I was never more hated than when I tried to be honest. Or when, even as just now I've tried to articulate exactly what I felt to be the truth. No one was satisfied”  (Invisible Man)

there was ralph ellison news today in the states. randolph county north carolina banned invisible man from school libraries, because the decider "didn’t find any literary value" in the novel. it's a mysterious reason for people of literature who see its value. i like how the news relates to this conversation, i didn't know that'd happen. ellison reentered my thoughts and appeared here now in the future, still holding up. i guess i hope the same happens for von trier's work. if the problems persist, so too the struggle

essays would have to be written if we wanted to explore von trier's realms. i'm not going to write one tomorrow, but i'd read one tomorrow
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 20, 2013, 08:26:33 AM
Yeah, I can see how people like his movies. It's funny because I have a couple of friends who I usually talk to movies with, and one of them loved everything von Trier has ever done, and the other hates all of his movies -- if I remember correctly he gave up on him after Dogville and hasn't seen anything since. I am somewhat in the middle, even though I have only liked one, I'll still see them and appreciate some of its merits. But his movies are so extreme they turn out to be quite divisive.

I may not have explained myself very well when I said I didn't like how his movies made me feel. It's not because I feel bad while watching them, because I love a lot of movies that make me feel shitty afterwards, it's just that I always feel with von Trier that he wanted to make me feel bad just for the sake of it. I think this is the point where people will divide themselves in relation to his movies. Everything feels fake and manipulative to me, while to others it feels genuine. That may be the reason why I loved Dancer when I saw it. Because Selma is just naive but at the same time she truly loves her kid, and when the movies ends, I really feel for her. At least that's the way I remember the movie.

By the way, I haven't seen Antichrist. I'll see if I can do that this weekend and come back for more discussion.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: martinthewarrior on September 20, 2013, 10:15:12 AM
I'm one of the few people here who will say you shouldn't feel embarrassed by it. You're not missing much.

If your post gets any more likes, we're going to have to consider a temporary ban.

But in all seriousness, what's wrong with LVT?

I can understand if someone is squeamish or doesn't enjoy a punishing viewing experience, but the dismissive "not missing much" would never occur to me. He's hard to beat for sheer impact and profundity. I think I was unable to close my jaw for several weeks after seeing Dancer in the Dark.

All of this. LVT one of the best working, even when his outings tend towards the 'tough to sit through' variety. Excited for this.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on September 20, 2013, 11:55:31 AM
But his movies are so extreme they turn out to be quite divisive . . . I always feel with von Trier that he wanted to make me feel bad just for the sake of it.

I don't want to suggest you're misinterpreting LVT's films, but you might be misinterpreting LVT's films. I think they would make a lot more sense once you see more of them.

They are morally confrontational. This is beyond aesthetics, beyond "making you feel bad." They have a depth that's rarely seen in any medium. If you let them in, they are mindblowing.

Dealing with horrible people as your subjects, or exploring how humanity is corrupted, doesn't make you a misanthrope.

See Antichrist, then read our discussion of it in that thread. It might illuminate how humane LVT actually is. I know it's counterintuitive, but trust me, it's there, and it's really at the core of his movies. I recommend Antichrist because some especially surprising things are happening beneath the surface of that film, and hopefully that would open one's mind to the subtext of his other work, especially his other corruption-themed movies, like Dogville and Manderlay.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on September 27, 2013, 04:38:48 AM
Chapter 4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8in8pmlzlA
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Lottery on October 10, 2013, 08:52:21 AM
Character posters.

http://imgur.com/a/OgtFN

The Skarsgard one is best.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Cloudy on October 10, 2013, 03:13:37 PM
This is fucking amazing. Also, LOVED that last teaser trailer. Wow.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Drenk on November 01, 2013, 02:42:13 PM
New clip.

http://vimeo.com/78330045

No YouTube, of course, for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Ravi on November 12, 2013, 12:04:40 PM
Nymphomaniac to be hardcore only as Lars von Trier gives up final cut (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/12/nymphomaniac-lars-von-trier-hardcore)
Unable to cut his sexually explicit film down from five hours, Danish director opts to let someone else cut the movie down to two, two-hour chunks – both including explicit footage
Ben Child
theguardian.com, Tuesday 12 November 2013 05.01 EST

Lars Von Trier has abandoned plans to release a softcore version of his sex epic Nymphomaniac. The film's two-part four-hour cut, which is due to debut in Copenhagen on Christmas Day, will now contain explicit scenes.

The release of Nymphomaniac will see the Danish director give up final cut for the first time in his career. The decision was apparently taken after Von Trier said he was unwilling to trim the two-part film's current five and a half hour running time himself. Nymphomaniac's strange fate is detailed in an extended making-of feature in the Danish film magazine Filmmagasinet Ekko which was picked up by the Hollywood Reporter.

"The short version is against Lars' own will, but he accepts it because he understands market mechanisms," says Von Trier's long-term producing partner Peter Aalbaek Jensen in the magazine article. "You cannot make a film for more than 60 million kroners (about $11 million or £6.9 million) that is so lengthy. Five and a half hours is so extreme that it reduces market value so radically that investors would have felt they had bought a pig in a poke."

It is extremely unusual a director of the artistic clout of Von Trier to allow somebody else to complete their vision, particularly on such a singular project as Nymphomaniac. It is not known if the longer five-and-a-half-hour cut will ever be released, and Jensen refused to confirm if Von Trier would take it to next year's Cannes film festival.

Nymphomaniac, which stars the film-maker's regular muse Charlotte Gainsbourg in the lead, has been billed as an exploration of the erotic life of a woman from infancy to middle age. Digital trickery and body doubles have reportedly been used to portray famous stars such as Uma Thurman, Stellan Skarsgård, Christian Slater, Jamie Bell and Shia LaBeouf having sex.

A teaser trailer for the much anticipated film was briefly removed from YouTube earlier this month after apparently falling foul of the site's rules on nudity and sexual content.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Pubrick on November 13, 2013, 03:33:55 AM
who's cutting it though?

ghostboy?
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Drenk on November 22, 2013, 09:26:46 AM
Charlotte Gainsbourg is cutting it.

Trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5YekQnGSIs
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Pubrick on November 22, 2013, 09:52:09 AM
that's it.

the thing is, to be excited about the effects of this film is to be skarsgardy.. the reality is that we know we're all gainsbourgy.. except for JB or whatever. i'm interested in the asexual reading of this film, or even the homosexual reading, or the female reading, actually anything but the male reading.

because it's obviously made from the male perspective. it seems completely committed to it. at this point we can't just look at von trier films and think he's just trying to be shocking. i don't think he's ever solely been interested in that. he learned his lesson when Tarkovsky told him his first films were shit.

i think he's reflecting a certain ideology and playing with it. he is well aware of the potential reactions he can get from his work and while to the half-awake public it might just vaguely register as "outrage" or "sex ass dick cunt art" whatever, the REALLY interesting part is what the fuck is he doing this for? easy.. because it gets a reaction. haha.

but not just that. there's nothing cheap about starting with a cheap reaction if the content actually merits more sophisticated thought. this is the kind of thing Jack Horner dreamed about but without the ejaculate. why will this still merit a reaction beyond simply outrage? is a woman being a sex maniac really that outrageous? we KNOW it's not. but generally the consensus seems to be that it is.

it goes back to the bullshit i said when i first saw the brilliant use of () in the title. specifically:

...  the inexpressible and inaccessible nature that man assigns to women. The closed brackets exclude the reader  (paralleled in the film by the male listener, whom the synopsis wants us to identify as the "reader" of the woman's life which she recounts in chapters -- a common Von Trier trope) from cohesion but it also grants a sanctuary within the greater context of the word, a safe house, a complete and open world inside a defined one. ...

if gainsbourg is really editing this then it only adds, inadvertently yet perfectly, to distorted veil through which we see the direct telling of her words. due to our twisted understanding of female sexuality we misconstrue her behaviour as unreasonably perverse or even amusing -- as skarsgard displays in the trailer and which gainsbourg reprimands.

von trier is the danish PTA as tarkovsky was the russian kubrick. what a time to be alive.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on November 22, 2013, 12:32:37 PM
eh, I am pretty disappointed to be honest.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: 03 on November 22, 2013, 01:39:10 PM
i'm the complete opposite of disappointed.
all of these little teasers we've been given have been really nice and cool;
but THIS is genuinely exciting.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 22, 2013, 10:16:34 PM
Edited a working link into the above post.

I am definitely not disappointed.

I never thought I'd hear Rammstein in a Lars von Trier trailer, but I'm buying it.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 22, 2013, 10:22:52 PM
I might as well just upload this now. Seems unlikely that it will stay on YouTube.

http://xixax.com/files/nymphomaniactrailer.mp4
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Cloudy on November 26, 2013, 12:21:38 PM
What's happening with the two versions of Nymphomaniac: Interview with Producer
http://www.screendaily.com/territories/europe/whats-happening-with-the-two-versions-of-nymphomaniac/5063877.article?blocktitle=LATEST-FILM-NEWS&contentID=40562

Important bit:

As planned from the project’s inception, both versions of the project are in two parts — the four-hour version is 2 x 2 hours, the 5.5-hour version is likely to be about 2.5 hours for part one and then three hours for part two.

“We decided the short version would go into distribution first so we can send the same film out to the whole world and then, after that, we will prepare the long version for distribution,” she continued.

“We don’t know how and where that one will be distributed. It will be later in 2014.”

While the shorter version is edited to be less explicit with close-up, don’t expect a Disney movie. “There is a lot of nudity and sex in the short version,” Vesth reassured. “It’s not like we put in other scenes or its suddenly telling another story or it’s cutting up the scenes in a different way.”

In Denmark, the film will receive the 15+ (highest) age rating when Nordisk launches it; even the short version is likely to be unrated or get an NC-17 in the US, where Magnolia will release. TrustNordisk has nearly sold out the world on the film.

Longer version

Plans are still being decided for the launch of the longer version. “All the distributors have to decide for themselves how they will put the uncensored one out,” she said.

Editing on both versions was led by Melancholia editor Molly Marlene Stensgaard, from late 2012 through summer 2013 and with final touches happening now.

Von Trier didn’t work directly on the edit of the shorter version but only for practical reasons.

“For him it was important not to be confused,” Vesth added. “It was important to have a clear vision of one of the versions… We are not sending out anything that he would not agree on.”
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 26, 2013, 02:23:35 PM
Well... someone got that story very wrong.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Tictacbk on November 26, 2013, 07:06:16 PM
They should release an edit that's just the 90 minutes cut for the "less explicit" version.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 26, 2013, 08:00:05 PM
Why on earth should they do that?
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: 03 on November 26, 2013, 08:57:38 PM
yeah don't tell them to do that!
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: matt35mm on November 26, 2013, 09:04:27 PM
They should release a 90 minute cut of just the super-explicit stuff, none of those dumb scenes of people talking.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Lottery on November 26, 2013, 09:35:25 PM
They should release a 90 minute cut of just the super-explicit stuff, none of those dumb scenes of people talking.

Artistically legitimate hardcore porn is all I've ever wanted.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: jenkins on November 26, 2013, 10:30:59 PM
no way, he's right, that's the right thing to do, and someone needed to say it!
this proposal could end the tyrannical dominance of sparknotes within written form and finally (finally!) bring it to cinematic form
for years and years cinema has carried the shame of having complete artistic representations, and the end must be insisted
we don't want to hear what you have to say
or how you want to say it, no
no!
we want to hear like a summary about each thing
explain it to us through a form which couldn't exist without the total
break the total into its pure beauty
in 90mins
or fuck off
fuck off pals
'cause we don't wanna hear your garbage
i think i forget how this joke is going
i think Tictacbk was also joking
since he put "less explicit" like that, with quotations
and it's true that cutting a long form into two long forms, even after saying there's some business aspect, is bullshit. what's explicit? lvt can't buy into it because he was serious the first time. but he has financial supporters and knows other people worry about it, so ok, he'll do it if you insist, but what's explicit? the whole thing. you can decide what to take out. lvt already took out what wasn't needed and included everything that was. he made his piece and it was 5 hours long. he's an artist. i'm so chill with that

it's dangerous to assume everything cut will be sexual. and it's awful(est) if everything that's chosen to be cut is chosen for being too sexual!

enter the void has a director's cut (the longer version) and a release cut. the released cut has a reel omitted. what i've heard is noé decided, after sundance, to trim the movie by a reel. he approved, is what i've heard. and it's true the whole story works as complete as it can even with the reel missing. because the reel isn't necessary, as all it does it grow what's there without it, the movie might be better in its released cut. i've seen both of them many times, each time while they were in the theater, and it always felt to me like a heaven of cinema. obviously i preferred the longer. it was more of what i cherished

it's a popular tendency for a group of cinephiles to insist the shorter was better. apocalypse now for example. the weinstein company (oh my, yes) shortened the grandmaster for us release. there's the perception that the audience likes the movie shorter. another reason is it takes up less of your day. is that always true of the audience? i don't know. i don't care. give me the movie, all of it. a person like me, you coulda guessed, i'll take the whole piece
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Ravi on November 27, 2013, 12:00:04 AM
They should release a 90 minute cut of just the super-explicit stuff, none of those dumb scenes of people talking.

That's your solution to everything.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Tictacbk on November 27, 2013, 04:37:13 PM
They should release a 90 minute cut of just the super-explicit stuff, none of those dumb scenes of people talking.

Isn't that what I said?


But for real, if you can cut 90 minutes of footage and all it does is make the film "less explicit," you can probably cut some of those minutes all together.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on November 27, 2013, 06:52:56 PM
Cut Shia's scenes.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: matt35mm on November 28, 2013, 02:01:34 PM
They should release a 90 minute cut of just the super-explicit stuff, none of those dumb scenes of people talking.

That's your solution to everything.

No, my solution to everything is to move under the sea.

They should release a 90 minute cut of just the super-explicit stuff, none of those dumb scenes of people talking.

Isn't that what I said?


But for real, if you can cut 90 minutes of footage and all it does is make the film "less explicit," you can probably cut some of those minutes all together.

I misunderstood; I thought you meant they should do a 90 min un-explicit cut of the movie because I mis-read you as saying "a 90 minute cut" instead of "the 90 minutes [that were] cut" but I see now what you were saying. Oops.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: jenkins on November 28, 2013, 02:33:38 PM
i wasn't completely sure and entirely misunderstood as well. i'd watch that. that'll already exist

while thinking of it the other way i thought i'd see it if it was like a Giorgio Moroder version of NYMPH()MANIAC. i'd watch that also probably, but we'd need a Giorgio Moroder
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Pubrick on November 28, 2013, 02:36:46 PM
They should cut 90mins out of this thread.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: jenkins on November 28, 2013, 02:44:54 PM
they is you, and you just did it! good biz work

there's a secret portion from earlier where i discuss my overall excitement for the full release. dead precedents can represent me: von stroheim's greed (the most famous of all?), apocalypse now, enter the void, various forms of metropolis. i added greed and have mentioned the others. i also think of the whole bloody affair and kill bill -- i've been waiting since kill bill was in the theater to see kill bill again, because i've been waiting for the whole bloody affair. it's played here but i couldn't go. it's like qt is telling me to take it in whatever form i can, it doesn't matter very much. is he saying that? callers, what do you think
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Drenk on November 29, 2013, 02:05:22 PM
Duck ----> Vagina.

http://vimeo.com/80495668
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on December 05, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
Lars Von Trier’s Racy ‘Nymphomaniac’ Gets Two-Part Release From Magnolia
BY MIKE FLEMING JR | Deadline
   
After much foreplay in the form of increasingly graphic trailers that to me skate the edges of pornography, the release plan for Lars von Trier‘s Nymphomaniac has come together. Magnolia Pictures has announced that von Trier has cut his work into two films. The first, Nymphomaniac: Part One, will open in theaters March 21 after premiering on-demand March 6. This will climax in the April 18 release of the second film, which first will be on-demand April 3.

Von Trier is no stranger to controversy, as witnessed by the dopey comments he made promoting Melancholia which resulted in getting banned from the Cannes Film Festival, but the subject matter of this film should sell itself. In fact, he has vowed to do no press as both films premiere in Denmark on Christmas Day. Despite that, I wouldn’t be surprised if Magnolia has itself a multi-platform juggernaut that could be reminiscent of Last Tango In Paris, a squarely adult art film with something for everyone. That includes the voyeur crowd, as Magnolia boasts it has an unprecedented amount of explicit sex. The films haven’t yet been rated, but getting an R would probably work against the multi-platform release pattern of this pic.

The first film tells the story of Joe (Charlotte Gainsbourg), a self-diagnosed nymphomaniac who is badly beaten and left in an alley. She’s helped by an older bachelor, Seligman (Stellan Skarsgård), who takes her into his home. As he tends to her wounds, she recounts the erotic story of her adolescence and young-adulthood (portrayed in flashback by Stacy Martin). This film stars Shia LaBeouf, Christian Slater, Uma Thurman, Sophie Kennedy Clark, Connie Nielsen and Udo Kier. The second part focuses on Joe’s adulthood and stars Jamie Bell, Willem Dafoe, Mia Goth and Jean-Marc Barr in addition to Gainsbourg, Skarsgård, Martin and LaBeouf.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Drenk on December 05, 2013, 03:40:01 PM
On demand? So...people are gonna be able to download it illegally before the actual physical release?  :ponder: Are they thinking about a premiere on YouPorn too?  :ponder:

I love France. Always the first to show naked women. It's out the first day of 2014.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: jenkins on December 10, 2013, 11:40:28 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/uVftMSx.jpg)

<3
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Neil on December 10, 2013, 03:18:29 PM
Interesting poster. The use of the apple is AWESOME and so is the use of the single wedding band.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: wilder on December 13, 2013, 01:51:38 PM
Charlotte Gainsbourg cover of "Hey Joe" produced by Beck (http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/listen-charlotte-gainsbourgs-cover-of-hey-joe-for-nymphomaniac-produced-by-beck-20131213)
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Punch on December 14, 2013, 05:42:41 PM
http://vimeo.com/81500473



Chapter 7: The Mirror
The image you see in a mirror will at first glance seem like an exact replica of the object you're looking at. However, this is in fact false, as the object will always be a mirrored, and thus flawed, version of the original object.
Joe tries to rid herself of her sexuality.

Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Drenk on December 19, 2013, 12:49:20 PM
Oh God.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bb3ivwvIIAAHdpQ.jpg)
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: KJ on December 19, 2013, 12:52:04 PM
the danish film critics are excited.

(http://d2.dn-static.se/UploadedImages/2013/12/17/5862b2cd-8798-4a89-b02b-959acb09be7d/original.jpg)
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Drenk on February 08, 2014, 12:17:58 PM
NYMPH()MANIAC I :

Well. It's weird to say something right now, because it's just half a movie. First, I was surprised; the movie was funnier than what I expected, very entertaining. It's all about style too. The character of Joe isn't very interesting, though. But I've never loved Lars Von Trier; so, it can move people...? It's a weird but coherent object. A lyrical/punk filmmaking. But it feels something like LVT doesn't care about his subject, or doesn't say interesting things about it.

I can't really say anything else, I miss a big part of the movie. I'll watch it next week.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on February 14, 2014, 09:44:27 AM
Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V0O3hf_JMk
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 07, 2014, 03:53:00 PM
Volume I is available to rent now:

$9.99

Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLYOjqStpSQ)
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Nymphomaniac-1-Charlotte-Gainsbourg/dp/B00ITKS65Y/ref=sr_1_3?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1394126825&sr=1-3&keywords=nymphomaniac+lars)
Flixfling (http://www.flixfling.com/movies/20809)


I'm assuming those are all 1080p. Certainly the YouTube must be.

There are some torrents up of volumes I and II but they all appear to be 480p. Yuck.

See other on-demand options here (http://www.magpictures.com/nymphomaniac/ondemand.shtml).
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Axolotl on March 08, 2014, 05:50:39 PM
This is his actual masterpiece.
Don't ruin it for yourself by waiting weeks between the two parts, the break-point functions as an intermission at best.

I don't know how I could even address such a huge, throbbing, veiny, engorged film after just having tasted it once, so this post is going to be as loose as the titular character's vagina and try not have any plot leakage.

At the beginning of the film, Skarsgard namedrops One Thousand and One Nights, The Decamaron, and The Canterbury Tales as books that constitute his sexual education.
This is the first of the dozens winking self-reflections in the course of the film, more on that later.
What places this in the pre-novelistic traditions of those book is not only the most traditional framing device that they share, or the episodic self-contained nature of the stories, or the wild erudite digressions into seemingly random topics, or how those stories wear their metaphors on their sleeves, but also one of their main themes- the commingling of sex with violence and death.

Scheherazade and Shahryar's marital bed(the frame story of 1001 Nights) is a scene where the King(Shahryar) has killed dozens of his previous wives after spending one night with them to sate his jealousy, and his latest wife Scheherazade survives night-by-night thanks only to the spell of great storytelling. In the Decameron's frame-tale the storytellers have found refuge in a villa untouched by the Black Death all around it. I haven't read the Canterbury Tales. Skarsgard most tellingly omits 120 Days of Sodom, the most obvious antecedent.
While this sex-violence-death nexus has been thoroughly and directly explored in 20th century art, this film is still fresh,exciting, and punk rock in its exploration of what if anything seperates pleasure and anguish, with its cock shot slide-shows, its Godardian intrusion of text on images, split-screens,  discordant-at-first-then-clearly-appropriate music choices, its blurring of boundaries between the real
and imaginary, and its monologues indicting of political correctness and therapy sessions, and expressing sympathy for pedophiles.

Oh and it's really, uncomfortably funny.

<Mild spoilers>
Few interesting/amusing observations/self-references before I fall asleep.
The first bit of music once the story begins is Shostakovich's Waltz No. 2, you can guess how significant that choice is. This is the film where Nicole Kidman's character makes the choice she only fantasized about.
There's a recreation of the opening scene from Antichrist, complete with lascia ch'io pianga playing.
There's a scene where a collective of young nymphomaniacs who've formulated strict and untenable set of rules and conditions about how to go about having lots of sex.
Most of the films characters have single alphabet names. von Trier only bothers to make up names when there's some meaning behind them.
Joe- short for Joseph/Josephine meaning God Adds/Increases. The fibonacci sequence plays an important part in her story.
Seligman- Famous psychologist. Developed the Learned Helplessness theory for clinical depression
Jerome- I've got nothing, probably Hieronymus?
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 08, 2014, 11:35:57 PM
Don't ruin it for yourself by waiting weeks between the two parts, the break-point functions as an intermission at best.

Okay, but where are you finding a good version of Volume 2? The 480p looks like garbage.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Axolotl on March 09, 2014, 01:50:34 AM
Some of the torrents are better quality than others, and the quality improves a bit after the initial dark alley scene but 480p doen't bother me because I've grown up watcing shit quality videos. You might want to wait a few days for a good release.
And I think 03 said he found a 1080p torrent.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Drenk on March 09, 2014, 06:36:33 AM
What did you think about Vol II, Axoliti? I know it shouldn't be cut in two, but I liked Vol I a lot and hated Vol II. It lost all its melancholy and beauty to become stupid provocation and full of shit.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Axolotl on March 09, 2014, 04:07:38 PM
I liked the latter half even more.
Why is it a stupid provocation, what response do you think it tries to provoke?
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Drenk on March 09, 2014, 04:29:59 PM
SPOILERS

The discussion about the word "negro", the ending with P. and Jerôme (seriously? they introduce her twenty minutes before the end and she randomly fucks Jerôme in front of Joe?), and the last minute. But ultimately, I thought that the broken narrative - or I don't know how to call it - wasn't as good. That Joe wasn't interesting anymore. The emptiness of her vagina was similar to the emptiness of my implication. The movie makes fun of itself ("It was your least interesting digression"), the running gag of the symbol in the room that is linked to Joe's story, after three hours, isn't a gag anymore.

Vol I showed Joe growing up, her understanding of her sexuality. But I don't buy the message - if there is a message - about the link between death and sexuality; I hated the chapter of her father's death...What did you make of Joe's story?
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Cloudy on March 12, 2014, 12:01:26 AM
Lars Von Trier’s Racy ‘Nymphomaniac’ Gets Two-Part Release From Magnolia
BY MIKE FLEMING JR | Deadline
   
After much foreplay in the form of increasingly graphic trailers that to me skate the edges of pornography, the release plan for Lars von Trier‘s Nymphomaniac has come together. Magnolia Pictures has announced that von Trier has cut his work into two films. The first, Nymphomaniac: Part One, will open in theaters March 21 after premiering on-demand March 6. This will climax in the April 18 release of the second film, which first will be on-demand April 3.

Anyone know whether both films will be out at the same time in theaters? From the reactions here, seems like it makes sense to watch them in one viewing.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Axolotl on March 12, 2014, 06:47:40 AM
I think there should be another thread where people who've seen both parts can discuss spoilers till more people can see it legally

Drenk, I didn't think that was a gimmick, that's just some digressionary fun. He used about as many external parallels as the ones he found in the room.
The movie making fun of itself is a criticism? I could picture him writing something, thinking it was boring, glossing over it by a meta-comment because he nonethless thought the digression was important in some way. It's not really funny or amusing, but it's one self-reference that didn't work in four hour film with dozens of them that do.

<SPOILERS>

About the "negro" part. I thought that wasn't controversial at all. I seperate what a character says with what the filmmaker genuinely believes. She's someone who left her child alone to get snm'd up at some old decrepit building and later leaves him altogether. Makes sense she'd exoticize people from a place that might as well be another universe for her. That sequence with the two black guys was her objectifying them and in turn wanting to be objectified by them.

The scene in the alley at the end being random. I thought the scene with Jerome and P was perfectly in tune with the skewed reality of the film upto that point. What doesn it symbolize? Maybe that growing old is way harder for women than for men. Jerome's attractiveness only increases as he grows older and accumulates wealth, while Joe's doesn't in the eyes of most men. Maybe that was P's response to a self-serving intrusion into her life by Joe.

</SPOILERS>

Joe's was a story of a woman who's not bound by any morality in her refusal to tame her nature. The things she does were amoral for anyone, but downright Satanic in the eyes of society because she was a woman. Most dominant societal structures post-dark ages have been reliant on pleasure denial to establish control. Sexual pleasure has been considered a sin unless it serves a function other than pleasure- making babies.(By the way, what's the link between mirrors and intercourse? They both increase the number of people in the world by creating uncanny replicas) Even more sinful is female pleasure. Look at the history of female circumcision- remove a woman's clitoris so that she can't experience sexual pleasure, removing any incentive to cheat on her husband.

I look forward to the discussions when more people have seen it. People should have a lot to say about this, whether they like it or not.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Drenk on March 12, 2014, 12:38:34 PM
SPOILERS VOL I AND II


I was just taking as example the meta-commentary about the digression, but Vol II, as a whole, was never funny. Except the gang-bang. Vol I had the fishing analogy, the 3+5 suite (I don't remember how it's called), MAXIMA VULVA, Uma fucking Thurman. It was better at using different chapters. What I miss at the end is a connection with the characters; everything they say is as serious as the negro thing, some kind of bullshit philosophy. I think LVT is just messing around. He thought about the form but didn't really care about his characters. She stops having orgasms because she's not connected to the world anymore?

I did not see the hate of her sexuality in the movie. The mirror is sexual because she would see her body. And her body is sexual. She's always lived her sexuality, and men, always, were excited. Jerôme is excited about her fucking him. She isn't anymore. She lost the taste of sex. Why? Because she feels guilty? The Antichrist moment is about the guilt, I guess. But the child doesn't die this time...
Yeah, ultimately I don't get Joe and it means anything to me; that's why, even if I can appreciate the movie because the form is great, I don't think it's great. But I have this issue with LVT in general.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: 03 on March 12, 2014, 07:28:36 PM
i will elaborate on this later, but i just finished my second viewing and want to keep things fresh, outside of shoutbox.

this movie is his masterpiece. it is his epic.
it is also his most accessible outside of maybe dancer in the dark because of how plainly laid out and non confusing that one is.

this movie is important to me beyond all others because as most oldschoolers here know, im a bit sex obsessed.

 i am an actual nymphomaniac, beyond all male arrogant posturing, i literally cannot stop having sex. i have a chemical addiction to peptide phenethylamine. this movie captures that feeling in the most honest and disgustingly truthful way possible. the way i live is basically no one will ever be good enough, no one will ever truly satisfy. and as baller as it sounds, it is fucking hell, every minute of the day. it is genuinely to live in the moment and have it pass for infinity. constantly seeking. and as gay as some of you want to make it, i relate to her character more than any man i've seen in film.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Axolotl on March 13, 2014, 05:22:51 AM
i am an actual nymphomaniac
It's called satyriasis in men nymphomania in women.

And priapism was what you had a few days ago
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Mel on March 20, 2014, 05:34:12 AM
Not sure where it should go: here or second part should have separate thread? Anyway trailer for Volume II:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVIa7tvgKHg
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: wilder on March 22, 2014, 12:11:43 AM
I just saw Part I and am psyched on it. What an original movie. I'm holding off on reading most of your reviews until after I experience Part II next week, but the first half has to be my favorite Lars movie since Breaking the Waves. And Skarsgard is comedy.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: wilder on March 22, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
Cast interviews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWSa5AfvJsU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdggrzkjH4M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyTGjR5WAjw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIa-V0yDuGo
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: samsong on March 23, 2014, 06:17:09 AM
i watched both volumes in one sitting (i can't imagine seeing it any other way, really) and will join the others in considering this a milestone in von trier's body of work.  (his masterpieces prior to this for me are the idiots, breaking the waves, and dogville.)  it's the culmination of everything he's done in his career up until this point, and it seems almost worth having put up with antichrist and melancholia for us to get this.  of the depression trilogy, this is the only one that truly expresses something about the experience of depression outside of just overt outward emoting.  perhaps a revisit is in order but those to strike me as high school creative writing exercises wherein  the emotions were too immediate and severe to the point of compromising any lucid thought/understanding.  it's also fun to see von trier really wearing his influences on his sleeve, even more so than usual here.  apart from the depth, the heavy shit, the brecht-by-way-to-scandanavia provocations and devices, this is just a ferociously entertaining movie.  among the most unsettling absurdist comedies i've come across.  can't wait to watch it again.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: wilder on March 23, 2014, 05:29:26 PM
it's the culmination of everything he's done in his career up until this point, and for me it seems almost worth having put up with antichrist and melancholia for us to get this.

From the above interview with Skarsgard, breaking down LVT's process. It reminds me of what it seems PT has been gradually working towards in his own way, synthesizing Cassavetes' interest in spontaneity with the more technically sophisticated craft of other directors he admires:

How has Trier's directing style changed over the years?

I worked with him with his first feature film after he gave up total control. His first five feature films was total control - he designed every movement of the actors and everything, and they were technically brilliant and of course dead. When I saw his first film Element of Crime in a festival, I said "I’d like to work with this director when he gets interested in people". And it took him some years, but then he realized it himself, and with The Kingdom he sort of broke up this ‘total control’ thing and realized that he could actually get real life on the screen if he let the actors go.

And when we did Breaking the Waves, which was a very thought-out script — I called it ‘The Raiders of the Lost Ark’ in terms of melodrama because every scene was like a peak scene in a dramatic film….if he hadn’t let the actors be more free and create more life you would have felt the structure of it and then it wouldn’t have worked as well. He spent all those years taking away his own tools. The Dogme manifesto - it’s a very personal thing, it’s not a manifesto ‘this is the way films should be made’, it’s about him taking away his own tools and reducing everything to…eventually gets all the way down to Dogville which is just: a text, an actor, and fucking shoot it, and that’s what he did. And when we did Dogville, you see that the story in itself is so strong that it actually works. And then you have actors that bring life to it and that are not trying to do “great performances” but are just trying to bring life to it — and then you photograph it, and it works.

So he has been reducing his tools throughout the years, and then, lately, he has started using his knowledge again of sort of more traditional filmmaking, and made a beautiful film like Melancholia — and on this film we didn’t even have handheld camera we had tripod and tracking. […] After giving up his tools for many years he’s now bringing them back again. But now without constraining the actors.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Pubrick on March 23, 2014, 11:28:07 PM
That's the most succinct summary of LVT's career I've ever read.

Obviously Skarsgard understands better than anyone, having worked with him so much, he's LVT's PSH.

More than that, they clearly share a similar approach to their craft: While LVT wants to remove all his tools, Skarsgard wants to remove all his clothes.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: picolas on March 24, 2014, 12:33:18 AM
i truly do not understand the overwhelmingly positive response to this. i love lars but this was his most sub par, boring movie by a mile. the ending felt as though it was ghostwritten by a toddler. i swear i'm not trolling. i just don't understand why people would value this on the same level as his other work. uma's great, though.

edit: tired. more detail later
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 25, 2014, 10:35:23 PM
Technical note for people who haven't yet seen it: I rented Vol 1 through YouTube and it was kind of a garbage deal. 780p that occasionally gets pixelated, and I must have had 6 load screens, on a 30 megabit connection. I guess I'll try Amazon for the second part.

It wasn't quite clicking for me until the cutaways and diagrams reached a saturation point, and then the music sequence was like this blast of brilliance, and the way Vol 1 ended was perfect. So far it's kind of missing that Von Trier edge, but that seems to be promised in Vol 2. Withholding judgment.

I absolutely love Shia LeBeoueaf in this role. He's playing to type.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 29, 2014, 10:06:21 PM
When Shia LaBeouf is the best thing about your film, you know something has gone horribly wrong.

This is a genuinely bad movie. There are good scenes, even a few great scenes, but you really notice them when they're happening. (Not a good sign.)

Here's the biggest problem. Nymphomaniac is a super efficient subtext-draining machine. We are not allowed to do much interpretation, because not only is it done for us, it's forced upon us in the moment. Whenever something mysterious or potentially profound was happening and I was forming my thoughts on it, the film itself would interrupt me, with Seligman's voice, telling me what to think. He is a pest.

It's kind of merciless how you're guided through each chapter. It's as if you're trying to read a book and a teacher is standing there yelling footnotes at you. Simply does not work.

With LVT I expect confrontation; this was hand-holding. I never felt frightened or confused or challenged. This is an edgeless Lars Von Trier that I never want to see again.

In one moment, Seligman describes to Joe (and, obnoxiously, to us) how his asexuality makes him an ideal audience for her story, and how that's interesting. This is literally a character in a movie interpreting itself. We don't tolerate characters randomly introducing themselves with a brief speech about their characteristics, so why should we tolerate this? When that happened, I wasn't sure whether to cringe or facepalm, and I no longer had patience for the overexpository nonsense. But just like the relentless train that runs by Seligman's apartment, it would come back again and again. (If this is supposed to be a meta joke, it's an ineffectual one.)

The actress switch was, to put it mildly, not convincing (and didn't work as a meta joke either). I mean let's be honest here... suddenly she aged 25 years and still had a baby, and Shia LaBeouf had aged one day. I think Lars was just determined to use Charlotte Gainsbourg (who doesn't even strike me as essential for the role) and simply got lazy about making it work. Hey, how about you switch to Shia LeBeouf's replacement at the same time? And maybe as a bonus have an actual time jump there?

Now, some less mild spoilers...

The scene with the African guys was pointless. Its only purpose seems to have been (1) so Lars could get that shot with two bouncing black penises in the foreground and (2) to spice up Joe's character with a sprinkling of racism. When the scene ended I was like oh, that whole thing was just a joke. Oh. Okay then. I guess it was amusing. Except it was kind of dumb and silly that they didn't notice her leaving.

The Antichrist reference kind of infuriated me, actually, and served to highlight by explicit contrast how toothless this movie is.

These are probably my favorite scenes:

- Joe's first encounter with Jerome
- Uma's scene
- The chord sequence that ended Part I
- Joe's final confrontation with Jerome & P

Unfortunately I feel like I could do without the rest.

i truly do not understand the overwhelmingly positive response to this. i love lars but this was his most sub par, boring movie by a mile. the ending felt as though it was ghostwritten by a toddler. i swear i'm not trolling. i just don't understand why people would value this on the same level as his other work. uma's great, though.

No, you're right, the ending was garbage. And it's definitely Lars who was trolling us.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: wilder on April 05, 2014, 04:25:22 PM
This is a fascinating movie, despite any flaws, but I found myself more partial to Volume I than Volume II, which became largely frustrating for me.

MAJOR SPOILERS

Most of Lars' films are kinds of fables, sometimes beginning with dubious psychological foundations, but what makes them work is the consistency by which they play by their own rules. In Breaking the Waves, after Jan's accident on the oil rig that leaves him paralyzed, Jan tells Bess that she must go sleep with other men and then recount her experiences to him, that it's the only way to keep himself alive, if he loses that part of himself he's done for. Does this make complete sense? Not really. Do we buy it as a foundation for the remaining story? Yes, but only because this sort of bent truth that Lars puts forth is held steadfast and is utilized with consistency.

In Nymphomaniac's last support group scene, Joe stands up and declares herself different than all the others, a societal outcast, embracing the word 'Nymphomaniac' instead of ‘Sex Addict’. Here we feel that Joe is not just avoiding categorization, but is accepting, in the face of total opposition, that she is a creature of a fundamentally different kind - not one with rote psychological traumas she's compensating for that can be corrected with therapy, but a person who was born with essentially different needs, good or bad, that are unmodifiable. This is LVT proposing an expansion of what we consider the human experience, widening the definition, giving Joe's needs validity in the same way any other sexual orientation may be allowed as natural despite societal projections.

The later scene with the two African men is problematic. It works as another checkmark on Joe's list of what she considers exotic experiences, but really what I thought the point of this scene  was (until later), was the resulting conversation with Seligman about the word "negro". Joe claims, despite Seligman's protests, that by using the word she is calling "a spade a spade" instead of pandering to political correctness. As the conversation evolves, Seligman, established as very well-read and something approaching an intellectual, very nearly has his opinion turned about the use of the word. What underpins this scene is an embracement of uncomfortable truths, in the same way that Joe accepts the word 'Nymphomaniac', which implies impossibility of change, instead of sex addict as a personal label. Seligman's turning is a bit of confirmation that Joe isn't in typical denial about her possibility of change that plagues most addicts, but is in fact something else, something rarer, and that by hearing Joe's story recounted we are stepping into a less explored but completely valid zone of human discovery (at least in Lars' universe).

The hiccup happens later (one of many) when, as the sun is rising, Joe claims she wants to be that one-in-million sex addict who can be cured, an idea that was offered to her by her earlier support group leader. This comes almost out of nowhere, apparently prompted by Joe’s finding the solitary tree at the top of the mountain, and completely negates everything we've seen up until this point. Joe's nonsensical turn here, in which she essentially denounces all we were led to believe prior (concerning Nymphomania vs. sex addiction as completely different conditions) strips that extra meaning from the earlier discussion of the word negro in regards to the African men scene and reduces it to something flirting with exploitation. The scene with Joe recounting her discovery of the tree at the top of the mountain all by its lonesome worked as a payoff for her childhood discussions with her dad (Christian Slater) in the forest, harking back to her father's descriptions of trees as souls. The final shot in that sequence was poetic — Joe standing amongst the indifferent vastness with only the sideways-growing branches dwarfing her in the frame. It worked as a visual metaphor for her plight the entire movie, however, by using it as a trigger for hope, Joe perceiving the tree as fighting against the odds of its existence, as a sign of her own possibility of being “cured”, it diminishes the image’s original meaning and changes it to be a launching pad for her late transformation that is a lot less affecting. It changes the meaning of the entire movie to the far less interesting notion that 'Joe is just a sex addict in denial’, a betrayal of the rules the movie purported to be playing by.

By canceling out the curse of Joe, Nymphomaniac ceases to be a story of martyrdom, of carrying the burden of a permanent cross, and becomes something more murky. Whatever Lars was trying to say, the story becomes corrupted by the events that transpire in the second half of Volume II, once Willem Defoe enters the picture. While the scenes that resulted from Joe's employment by Defoe weren't necessarily bad in isolation, that entire story thread wasn't informed by anything we'd seen up until that point, aside from Joe's apparent qualifications for debt collection in terms of her nymphomania, which is a contrivance that doesn’t evolve our understanding of her. The connection between Joe's condition and the later scenes where she uses her sexual knowledge to extort money from clients is slim and a strange direction for the movie to go. What ultimately results from Joe's involvement in this area are threads of jealousy, lesbian experimentation, and questions of murder in regards to good or evil. The narrative, by this point, has become confused.

Apart from working in an illegal realm outside of the normal confines of society, which Joe’s nymphomania has pushed her to do, we are no longer following the foreground affects of Joe's condition on her life. Joe sets up the telling of her story, the entire excuse for the film in the first place, as a way to prove to Seligman that she is an “evil person”. We are then led to believe that Joe’s cross to bear, her nymphomania, will be the ultimate cause of this conclusion, directly. When Joe succumbs to her wants so impulsively that she risks the welfare of her child, Marcel, we are seeing the lengths to which Joe cannot help going to satiate her desires. If Marcel had actually fallen from the apartment’s balcony and died, if that was Joe’s reasoning for her essential “evil” nature — that her nymphomania trumped her regard for another human life, I would have bought her perspective completely. Instead, the later extortion thread leads Joe to kill out of jealousy, a completely unrelated moral question. Questions of jealousy can exist totally apart from nymphomaniac tendencies, making it an arbitrary evolution in Joe’s development.

Going back a bit, P’s coming into Joe’s life also seemed somewhat ineffective. This part of the movie seems to hold three main functions: It provides an opportunity for Joe to explore lesbian attraction, one of the only sexual areas we haven’t seen her venture into by this point, it sets up the jealousy angle in regards to Jerome later on, and it creates the possibility for the scene, however, contrived, with Joe encountering the pedophile. The problem is that P’s lesbian attraction to Joe is completely coincidental, and that she (P) initiates it. It’s way too convenient that out of all the boxes Joe has yet to check (of which there are very few), P just happens to fit into the lesbian experimentation category, and is also the one to make the advances. Taking the agency out of Joe’s hands makes the bedroom scene with P somewhat meaningless, as Joe acting on an attraction to P of her own volition would have implied a truly irrepressible desperation on her part. Joe is said to be somewhat celibate by this point, apart from her interactions with men within her job, so P acting to reignite Joe’s sexual desires instead of Joe herself says nothing about the permanent “curse” of nymphomania as it should. If P hadn’t done this, it is possible that Joe would have found her peace, which, again, is an idea in conflict with what the film sets up in the first place. 

Joe’s empathy for the pedophile’s circumstance, having not acted on his impulses and harmed another human being, is interpreted by her as honorable. She states explicitly that for this she thinks he deserves “a thousand medals”. As Joe is relating her own incurable condition, her own curse, to his, we can only conclude that in the event that Joe was not harming anyone in following her natural instincts, Joe believes nymphomania is fine — which is why her son Marcel should have died, it would have been a direct consequence of her pursuing her compulsions. I thought that what we glean as an audience from this extortion scene with the pedophile was good, but that the means by which it was arrived at was unnecessarily complicated. Why couldn’t Joe encounter a secret pedophile in another setting? It seemed like the only successful development of the whole debt collection bit was our increased understanding of Joe taken from this scene, but it could have occurred more simply elsewhere.

Also, given that Seligman has this role of offering counterpoint, not merely foil, to Joe’s beliefs, I found it odd that in the final minutes of the movie, when Joe muses on the idea that if a man had lived the life she had he wouldn’t be judged so unfairly, he didn’t digress into a discussion about the biological investment women have in sex vs men. It seemed to me that this discussion was glaringly avoided, and I'm unsure of why.

Though the end with Joe shooting Seligman felt wrong, Seligman's advances in the final minutes of the movie didn't come off as completely unwarranted to me. Here is a man who, despite claiming empathy, ultimately perpetuates Joe's suffering. It's a bit wonky, and I don't know what else LVT could have done with it, but Seligman basically attempting to rape Joe after positioning himself as her first real friend felt like an appropriate conclusion to this extremely dark story.

Despite Volume II’s inconsistencies, the film as a whole has too many good things about it to be dismissed. Any film that inspires this much contemplation for me is worth seeing (repeatedly).
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: jenkins on April 05, 2014, 05:06:27 PM
Despite Volume II’s inconsistencies, the film as a whole has too many good things about it to be dismissed. Any film that inspires this much contemplation for me is worth seeing (repeatedly).
you're so adorable. enjoyed the whole post and you're becoming like my jared leto spirit animal, what i think jared letos and spirit animals could be like. you tickled me for a future day when i wanna 1/2 the nymphos
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Cloudy on April 10, 2014, 03:04:15 AM
For a few days I've been trying to summon the reasons for why I thought this didn't work for me...and I blame the film for not making me hate it enough or like it enough, which is very unlike Trier. I'd disagree with Wilder in saying that I don't really crave to watch this again at all. I don't recall scenes that I find myself itching to dive back into. Each image felt like an overwritten representation rather than truth......if you're into Godard you'll dig it.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Pubrick on April 10, 2014, 06:08:37 AM
....if you're into Godard you'll dig it.

Single handedly made me lose hope for this film.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: wilder on April 10, 2014, 10:17:40 AM
I don't recall scenes that I find myself itching to dive back into. Each image felt like an overwritten representation rather than truth

I get what you mean in a way. I found Vol. 1 immensely entertaining, though. To be honest I was completely disinterested in the trailers, and not having liked Melancholia or Antichrist, wasn't sure if I was going to bother seeing it at all. So glad I did. For me the strength of the film lies in its construction. Though obviously very different stories, the closest thing it reminded me of was Eyes Wide Shut, where you have all these episodic adventures that in combination add up to something much larger, an exploration of a subject so fundamental and in some ways endless that the tip of the iceberg shown leaves your mind to wonder deeper about the events you've seen and their implication on everything else you know about relationships, or in the case of Nymphomaniac, on carnal desire and the possible groundlessness of some psychological truths we accept so readily (I don't think I'm even hitting on it exactly with that description).

......if you're into Godard you'll dig it.

I'm not much of a fan of Godard at all, and don't see the connection aside from the numerical graphics overlaid in some scenes. Can you elaborate?
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Cloudy on April 10, 2014, 11:42:49 AM
Just to be clear, I really like and agree with both of your posts on the film. But a lot of those good qualities are in an allegorical sphere rather than just plain simple cinematic feelings (Godard). Part 1 was really entertaining, but in a TV entertainment way. I regret waiting to see this in theaters because it's his least cinematic film. It's as if he made it to be seen on your laptop. The script was probably a way more enjoyable experience to read than the film itself.
To know where I'm coming from: I love Breaking the waves, Dancer, antichrist, melancholia

Thought (Part 1) was a good time at the movies, just not LVT.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on April 14, 2014, 04:52:41 PM
SPOILERS MAYBE!! I Dunno, whatever, it's just me rambling.

This didn't help me improve my relationship with von Trier at all. Quite the contrary. To me it just read as a collection of banalities interweaved with some inane philosophical/historical/artistic conversations. I tried to watch it as drama, I tried to see it as comedy, it didn't work either way. The narrative structure felt like I was watching a hardcore version of Slumdog Millionaire. And I'm almost forced to use one of my least favorite things one can say about a movie: pretentious. Either that or downright insulting, the ending felt like what eating a big pile of shit must feel like. And this time there aren't even great performances to make it at least mildly interesting. As for the hardcore sex scenes, I actually felt like the first one (a blowjob on the train that shows you these girls are not just talking shit, they're there to go all the way) was strong enough to be there, as was the whole pedophile penis shot (which is probably the only great scene in the two parts and what it's really all about, sex as a strong indicative of your personality, something you can't run away from, something that encapsultes what you are, but is immediately followed by a cringe worthy dialogue about pedofilia - it's what I call a cliched politically incorrect speech, just like the dialogue about the N word for instance, so on the nose you can actually see booger. Not that what's being said isn't rightly put, it's just that it seems like its being shout by an annoying 15 year old. As for the rest of the hardcore shots, they're there for shock value, nothing else. I'm sorry von Trier fans, but I just can't get into this or any of his stuff from the past 10 years.

/END RAMBLING.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Alexandro on April 17, 2014, 04:32:48 PM
yeah, I gotta admit (sadly) that JB's review is spot on, and wilder's is pretty much so too, except for the part that the film has too many good things to dismiss. four hours is a long time to not come up with good things, and the film manages that, but in the end it just chokes itself with exposition and over explanations.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: wilder on April 28, 2014, 05:41:08 AM
Blu-ray (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/Nymphomaniac-Volumes-I-and-II-Blu-ray/ref=%26%2574%2561g%3d%2562l%2575r%2561y%252d010%252d20?SubscriptionId=AKIAIY4YSQJMFDJATNBA&tag=bluray-010-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00JVQ7QTM&ASIN=B00JVQ7QTM&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER) from Magnolia on July 8, 2014
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: jenkins on July 12, 2014, 01:22:26 PM
really delighted by how conversational this thread is

the ending is like someone punches a baby and the 2nd part is less vibrant as a whole. group agreement i think

thought the first part had more luscious story textures, except my personal emotions hum surprising sexual tensions as i vividly remember my s&m; hands roped and bottom-half leather-strapped to the couch, you know, my naked ass a hotspot, those sequences i felt past the screen and i remember them as my own weird strange stories but lars can we talk about your ending. you're blowing it

saw this is as a theatrical 1/2. an elderly couple sat behind us, in the third back row, which i selected for anxiety-safety reasons. i forgot about the news, interviews, responses, expectations, etc. and movies like the nymphos are for sure why i want to be in a theater. omitted part about all the scenes that made me laugh
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: wilder on August 20, 2014, 12:02:10 PM
Director's Cut blu-ray (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/Nymphomaniac-Blu-ray-Stellan-Skarsgard/ref=%26%2574%2561g%3d%2562l%2575r%2561yf%256fr%2575m%252d20?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1408524258&sr=1-25&tag=blurayforum-20&ASIN=B00MVIYMG2) on November 25, 2013
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: wilder on August 29, 2014, 12:09:41 AM
Three clips (http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/watch-3-graphic-very-nsfw-clips-from-lars-von-triers-nymphomaniac-vol-ii-directors-cut-20140828) from the director's cut of Vol. II
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Lottery on September 05, 2014, 09:30:56 AM
Damn man, the teaser for the Director's Cut is seriously NSFW for real.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Bethie on September 05, 2014, 09:11:25 PM
I agree with yall about this movie being laaaame. I think I invested too much time to be given that ending.
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: wilder on September 16, 2014, 06:44:23 PM
Directors Cut will be available VOD on October 2, 2014
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: MacGuffin on September 24, 2014, 11:41:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywgNSfzX1tk
Title: Re: NYMPH()MANIAC
Post by: Something Spanish on December 23, 2017, 04:02:29 PM
Has anyone seen the Unrated Director’s Cut? Not sure if I liked it as a whole; it left me reeling and a bit more nauseous than AntiChrist.