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Title: Indy V
Post by: MacGuffin on July 28, 2008, 12:56:52 PM
Lucas Considers Indy 5
"If I can come up with another idea that they like, we'll do another."

In spite of the critical mauling Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull received, George Lucas has been discussing the possibility of a fifth film in the franchise, stating, "If I can come up with another idea that they like, we'll do another."

Speaking to The Sunday Times, Lucas said that putting together the recently released sequel was a challenge. "Indiana Jones only becomes complicated when you have another two people saying 'I want it this way' and 'I want it that way', whereas when I first did Jones, I just said 'We'll do it this way' - and that was much easier.

"But now", he went on, "I have to accommodate everybody, because they are all big, successful guys too, so it's a little hard on a practical level."

Lucas also elaborated on the creative differences he and Spielberg have recently been experiencing. "We still have the issues about the direction we'd like to take." he explained.

"I'm in the future, Steven's in the past. He's trying to drag it back to the way they were, I'm trying to push it to a whole different place. So still we have a sort of tension. This recent one came out of that. It's kind of a hybrid of our own two ideas, so we'll see where we are able to take the next one."
Title: Indy V
Post by: Alexandro on July 28, 2008, 01:50:54 PM
lucas really has a way to get on my nerves. he's in the future? all he has, all he does, all he ever says concerns projects that were born in the fucking 70's...he's the icon of living in the past. everytime he stops working on some star wars toys he starts another spin off, rapidly commiting creative suicide for his legacy and send it to where a lot of people think it belongs: irrelevancy. indiana jones has the spielberg element and works despite george lucas, not because of him.
Title: Indy V
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on July 28, 2008, 05:48:24 PM
lucas really has a way to get on my nerves. he's in the future? all he has, all he does, all he ever says concerns projects that were born in the fucking 70's...he's the icon of living in the past. everytime he stops working on some star wars toys he starts another spin off, rapidly commiting creative suicide for his legacy and send it to where a lot of people think it belongs: irrelevancy. indiana jones has the spielberg element and works despite george lucas, not because of him.
Title: Indy V
Post by: Sleepless on July 28, 2008, 06:24:05 PM
Title: Indy V
Post by: MacGuffin on August 05, 2008, 01:06:05 AM
Lucas: Indy V Research In Works

George Lucas told SCI FI Wire that preliminary research has begun on a story for a possible fifth Indiana Jones movie, but added that such a film is one of dozens of potential projects currently crowding his schedule.

"It sits on the shelf there as one of 50 projects that I have to deal with," Lucas said in an interview on Aug. 4 at his Big Rock Ranch in San Rafael, Calif., where he was promoting the upcoming computer-animated feature film Star Wars: The Clone Wars. "And if I can come up with a story ..."

But, Lucas added: "It's very hard to come up with stories for that thing. You know, It's really impossible. Because it has to be real. It has to be something that actually happened. It has to be something people know about. It has to be supernatural. It's a really difficult research project. Which they're researching now. You know, and last time it took 14 years. So ... "

Lucas was referring to this summer's fourth Indiana Jones film, subtitled The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, which was in development for more than a decade before the pieces finally came together.

In recent press interviews, Lucas has said that the three principals--himself, director Steven Spielberg and star Harrison Ford--all have to agree on the idea for a fifth film to move forward. He has also said that Spielberg is more amenable to the idea of a further installment than he was last time around.
Title: Indy V
Post by: MacGuffin on August 06, 2008, 12:21:55 AM
MTV EXCLUSIVE: ‘Indiana Jones 5’ Won’t Center on Shia LaBeouf, Insists George Lucas

This past May, two weeks before “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull” opened worldwide, George Lucas told reporters at the Cannes Film Festival that he already had an idea for a possible “Indiana Jones V,” and that it centered, not on Dr. Henry Jones, but on his son, Mutt Williams (Shia LaBeouf).

Three knife-flipping, tree-swinging, accident having months later and that idea? It’s kind of, well, “Nuked the Fridge,” Lucas told MTV News.

Asked whether he still considered Mutt Williams a strong enough character to drive an “Indiana Jones” film, Lucas was adamant that Indy just isn’t Indy without Indy. Or, to put it another way: No.

“Indiana Jones is Indiana Jones. Harrison Ford IS Indiana Jones,” Lucas said, dismissively adding about a character he helped create that, “If it was Mutt Williams it would be ‘Mutt Williams and the Search for Elvis’ or something.”

It’s unclear what changed Lucas’s mind about the character, or whether he would necessarily return at all – even in a sidekick capacity. That said, “The Search for Elvis” is hilarious.

Of course, talk of an eventual “Indiana Jones V” is something of a giant hypothetical anyway, even as Lucas continued to stroke the fire of anticipation at his Big Rock Ranch near San Francisco, insisting that work IS being done to find a suitable object for another installment.

“We ARE looking for something for him to go after,” Lucas said. “They are very hard to find. It’s like archeology. It takes a huge amount of research to come up with something that will fit.”
Title: Indy V
Post by: pete on August 09, 2008, 09:18:14 PM
don't say it's like archeology. 
Title: Indy V
Post by: jtm on August 13, 2008, 12:19:46 AM
don't want Indy 5.

don't want it at all.
and i used to LOVE Indy.


Title: Indy V
Post by: jtm on August 14, 2008, 12:23:54 AM
i'm psyched for Indy 5

i really hope it happens.

and i don't even like Indy!

Title: Indy V
Post by: jigzaw on September 21, 2008, 02:40:17 AM
I would see an Indy 5.  But after 4, my expectations will be WAY lowered. 
Title: Indy V
Post by: Alexandro on September 21, 2008, 03:12:33 AM
They say is gonna be as good as Vibes...
Title: Indy V
Post by: MacGuffin on October 03, 2008, 11:06:10 PM
Harrison Ford says George Lucas in 'think mode' on another 'Indiana Jones' film
Source: Los Angeles Times

Harrison Ford said Friday that momentum is building for a fifth movie in the "Indiana Jones"  franchise and that George Lucas is already cooking up a suitable plot for a heroic senior citizen with a penchant for whips and fedoras.

"It's crazy but great," the 66-year-old Ford said. "George is in think mode right now."

"Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" grossed $318 million in the U.S. alone and $770 million worldwide and is expected to be powerhouse seller on DVD and Blu-Ray when it arrives in stores Oct. 14. It was a film that many people in Hollywood assumed would never be made considering the difficulty in finding the right time and the right script to reunite Ford, Lucas and franchise director Steven Spielberg after the 1989 hit "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade."

Now, though, the latest success and the fact that the franchise's old machinery was revived has Ford thinking a fifth movie is not only a viable idea, but an attractive one.

"It's automatic, really, we did well with the last one and with that having done well and been a positive experience, it's not surprising that some people want to do it again," Ford said.

I asked Ford who specifically is stirring up the idea of another revival, whether it was Lucas, Spielberg or the star himself? "Really, it comes from the ethos, from the ether. It's natural. It's a way of nature, of course, success breed opportunities ... also we don't stay as closely in contact as have in the last year, that's part of it." 

Ford said, though, he would not be game to making an animated "Indiana Jones" film, a notion that became at least a possible option after Lucas took his "Star Wars" theatrical saga into the computer-generated realm with "The Clone Wars" this summer.

"I'm not philosophically against doing animation roles but not for Indiana Jones," Ford said. "I'd hate to see it reduced in any way from the movies that we have done and the way we have done them."

The iconic star said he had some doubts that his long-gone archaeologist hero would be an automatic 21st century sensation.

"It was never a lead-pipe cinch," Ford said. "It was a calculated business risk but I believe it paid off. I was somewhat surprised and gratified to see it did the business that it did. It was successful in almost every market. The first time we showed it to a disinterested outside audience was at Cannes. That' s a crap shoot of the first order. Not only is that audience sophisticated and film-knowledgable, it's French! And it's their country and their festival and we somewhat expected to be seriously slapped around. But we were not, we were embraced...it was very gratifying."

The action hero long ago became accustomed to seeing his likeness on action figures, but even he was taken aback by the proliferation of his face and fedora this past summer as Indiana Jones became a pop-culture blizzard.

"It was everywhere I turned, I was on a Corn Flakes box or something else. That's what it takes now to do a good job of marketing a movie like this."

Did the star's 7-year-old son like the movie? "He hasn't seen it. It's a little scary for his experience at this point." What about the toy aisle, was he jolted to see Daddy on so many boxes? "He doesn't take it personally. It doesn't mean very much to him."
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: MacGuffin on November 19, 2008, 12:29:44 PM
Harrison Ford Says Fifth 'Indiana Jones' Is In 'Primary Stages,' Though 'Crystal Skull' Wore Him Out
For his return to the iconic hero, Ford is one of the actors we're thankful for in 2008.
By Josh Horowitz; MTV

The leaves are falling, and the turkey is practically in the oven. Yes, according to the calendar, it's time to take stock and give thanks. So that's precisely what we're doing by talking to the actors and filmmakers that made 2008 a memorable year at the movies — a year filled with self-loathing kick-ass superheroes, Manolo-wearing women and the return of a very familiar man in a hat.

Sure, we all cringed a little when Shia swung through the trees like a monkey, and Ray Winstone is clearly no John Rhys-Davies, but after 19 long years away, didn't everything just seem a little better when Indiana Jones graced the big screen again? Audiences and critics may have bickered over the worth of "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull," but we came out in droves to watch Harrison Ford whip his young competitors at the box office one more time.

Ford joined MTV News to look back with at the summer of "Indiana Jones," and he even gave us some hope for one more triumphant adventure for Henry Jones Jr. John Williams, fire up the orchestra!

MTV: You must have gotten a kick out of seeing "Indiana Jones" at the heart of our popular culture again after all these years.

Harrison Ford: I didn't get as much of a kick as it just plum wore my ass out. I was on cereal boxes and soap powder! By the time it was all over, I was ready for it to be over.

MTV: You're no stranger to pandemonium surrounding your films, but the world premiere in Cannes was pretty extreme. Did it feel different from the last time you'd premiered an "Indiana Jones" film?

Ford: I don't know if it was different or I was different. There was a real sense of anticipation. We all went into the French premiere knowing that our hosts were French and that they could have gone French on us. [Laughs.] They're not shy. We were all just curious to how it would turn out.

MTV: How confident were you heading into the release?

Ford: I had confidence in it. Kids come up to me that are 7 or 8 years old and they want to talk about "Indiana Jones." They were not alive when the movies were released. I had confidence that this was deeply seeded in the culture. I thought we had a pretty good shot.

MTV: But then you actually had to deliver a product that people would enjoy.

Ford: I felt mostly confident about that.

MTV: A few months later, can you be objective about the film now?

Ford: I have two heads. I can go inside or outside the film. I think that's important for me to see it in an external way.

MTV: Does that external head think this one stands up to the other three films?

Ford: That external head has no mouth. That external head is smart enough to keep his goddamn mouth shut. [Laughs.]

MTV: There was a lot of debate online and elsewhere about certain scenes and characters. How aware were you of the debate?

Ford: I don't spend much time online.

MTV: There were a number of potential plotlines and scripts considered for this film over the years. Was this your favorite?

Ford: This was the final incarnation. I came to agree to it.

MTV: Did you have any significant moment of trepidation before or during the shoot?

Ford: Never. I knew what the experience was going to be like. I enjoy playing that character. It's fun. There's a great mix of stuff for me to do to keep my attention-deficit-plagued mind focused. It's just a good time for me.

MTV: Did you take any offense to how much was made out of you doing all this action at the ripe old age of 66?

Ford: They were talking about it when I was 45, so it didn't make any difference to me. I don't think I would have taken the part if I didn't feel physically fit for it. I wouldn't want to rob the audience of that part of the pleasure of the films.

MTV: Steven Spielberg has said that another "Indiana Jones" adventure would only happen if the audience essentially asked for more. A worldwide box-office gross of nearly $800 million would seem to say there's still an appetite. Is a fifth "Indiana Jones" film inevitable?

Ford: I don't know. If we come up with a good idea ...

MTV: Is the ball in George Lucas' court at this point?

Ford: It is. That's the process. With some general input, he goes off and searches for the MacGuffin [Ed. note: That's the plot device that propels the story, i.e. the Ark] and then stumbles into a story. And at some point, we have a chance to take a look at it and give some input.

MTV: And he hasn't found the MacGuffin yet?

Ford: No, we're still in the primary stages.

MTV: The end of the last film leaves your character in a very intriguing position. He has a wife and a kid. Can he still be that man of adventure with those commitments?

Ford: And he's seen something. Remember those are the only witnesses to what he's seen. That's kind of interesting.

MTV: James Bond is a franchise that's figured out how to ably switch between actors. If, in 50 years, they find another man to play Indiana Jones, would that sit all right with you?

Ford: The very simple addition of numbers would make it clear that in 50 years I will not give a sh-- at all. I will so not care.

MTV: Well what if you knew today that someone else would wear the hat one day?

Ford: Fifty years from now, they can do anything they want.

MTV: You were recently voted the Best Movie President on AOL Moviefone. Isn't it your responsibility to pass on what you know to President-elect Obama?

Ford: Laughs. I don't know much. But apparently [that poll shows] neither does the public. [Laughs.]
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Stefen on November 19, 2008, 08:16:48 PM
Fuck you George Lucas.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: MacGuffin on June 16, 2009, 03:21:31 PM
Shia Says Spielberg Has "Cracked" Indy 5
Source: Cinematical

Ah, the sequel no one is clamoring for has reared its head again. To be fair, some people enjoyed Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and with worldwide gross receipts totaling nearly $800 million, the only question that remained was when Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, and Harrison Ford would be ready to give it another go. (Our own poll last year suggested that it was time to retire the franchise.) Reportedly, Lucas favored the idea of continuing with old Indiana Jones as the lead character rather than handing things over to young Mutt Williams, played by Shia LaBeouf. Research was being conducted to find an artifact that the movie could be based on.

In the UK to promote Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, LaBeouf talked to the BBC and revealed that he had spoken recently with Spielberg about another Indiana Jones movie: "Steven just said he cracked a story on it before I left. I think they're gearing that up." Spielberg is busy filming The Adventures of Tintin: Secret of the Unicorn, so maybe he talked with Lucas between shots: "Hi, George, it's Steven. What if Indy searches for a shabti?" "Steven, what's a shabti?" "You know, George, the Sorcerer's Apprentice, the inspiration for that segment with Mickey Mouse in Fantasia?" "Of course, Steven, who do you think you're talking to?" "Well, George, the shabti was a figurine that was buried with the dead and performed hard labor for the deceased in the afterlife." "Ooh, I know, Mutt could try to get to it first, so he would never have to do manual labor for Indy any more!" "George, I think we've cracked it."

We'll wait to see if an official confirmation seeps out. Are you holding your breath for Indy 5?
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: cinemanarchist on June 16, 2009, 11:02:13 PM
I hope "cracked" refers to locking George Lucas in a dark rat infested basement until after the commentary is recorded.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: MacGuffin on June 18, 2009, 12:23:19 PM
Exclusive: Indy 5 Is A Go!
Frank Marshall spills the beans
Source: Empire Online
The hat is officially out of the bag. On Monday Shia Labeouf let slip that a follow up to Indiana Jones And The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was on the cards and now Frank Marshall has pretty much confirmed it, suggesting that Indy V could be approaching the pencil-chewing script development stage.

Although he didn't specify timelines, Marshall told Empire that ideas would be worked on with a view to green-lighting production sooner rather than later. "It's really about the script," says the veteran Indy producer. "Once we see that, we'll see. We're not going to wait another 20 years. We'd all love to make another one. I'm anxious to hear the idea!"

But are Mssrs. Spielberg, Ford and Lucas equally sold on a fifth outing for the whip-cracking archeologist? "Yeah. We had a great time making the last one and, as Harrison said, we need to make this one soon. We're not getting any younger."

With Ford fast approaching his 67th birthday, time is definitely of the essence. Up may have raised the bar for the ageing adventurers, but Indy showed signs of creakiness in The Crystal Skull and it's safe to rule out too many rolling boulder chases or collapsing rope bridges from a further sequel. Hopefully the same goes for the gopher.

One caveat to all this is the lack of a concrete idea. As Marshall told us: "Until there's a script, nothing's definite. I haven't heard the idea."
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Stefen on June 18, 2009, 12:27:58 PM
Well, here's hoping natural causes prevail. 
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: tpfkabi on June 18, 2009, 02:24:07 PM
i didn't think Skull was that bad other than too much cgi.
if there was some dream budgetary cap on everything except salaries (which could never be done) maybe it would be better.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: MacGuffin on September 14, 2009, 09:54:53 PM
Harrison Ford Up For 'Indiana Jones 5'... 'If The Script Is Good'

LOS ANGELES, Calif. -- Harrison Ford might have four "Indiana Jones" movies under his belt and is almost approaching age 70, but the actor says he would be ready to crack the iconic archaeologist's whip again and sport the trademark fedora in another sequel.

"The story for the new 'Indiana Jones' is in the process of taking form," Harrison told France's Le Figaro, as reported by People.

The 67-year-old actor reportedly told the mag that another movie all depends on the script.

"Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and myself are agreed on what the fifth adventure will concern, and George is actively at work," he said. "If the script is good, I'll be very happy to put the costume on again."

Harrison was last seen on the big screen in 2008's "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull," which earned over $786 million worldwide.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: diggler on September 14, 2009, 10:45:39 PM
ahhh Conan:

"harrison ford wants to make a fifth indiana jones movie, in the film he'll be chased by a giant boulder played by his prostate"
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: MacGuffin on September 21, 2009, 11:00:10 AM
Indy's Dad Returns?
Iconic Indiana Jones character rumoured for a comeback.
by Orlando Parfitt, IGN UK

Could Sean Connery be returning to the Indiana Jones franchise?

That's what Ireland Online is reporting, with the outlet suggesting that producers on the fifth movie are planning to bring Indy's dad back, even though we learnt in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull that he had apparently passed away.

An (unnamed) source told them: "Steven Spielberg has been working on a script with George Lucas and there is an element of the story that could see Sean returning. Anything is possible in these movies and if Sean wants to return he will become central to the new story."

Until we hear anything from the studio however, it's probably best to take this rumour with a pinch of salt.

Last week we heard that Harrison Ford himself might be up for donning the hat and whip once more, saying: "If the script is good, I'll be very happy to put the costume on again."
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: MacGuffin on June 08, 2010, 06:35:15 PM
Major Indy 5 News: Bermuda Triangle, the last of Harrison Ford
Source: SciFi Wire

Were you disappointed in the last Indiana Jones film, The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? According to the major developments we learned today from Stuff magazine, you won't be disappointed with the next Indiana Jones film—which will really be the last.

According to an inside source, Harrison Ford has agreed to come back as the archaeologist and adventurer one more time, and will be given an "emotional and exciting" sendoff: "Harrison is on stand-by for filming next year. This looks like ... an emotional and exciting conclusion to the franchise, with Indy facing his biggest challenge yet."

Indiana Jones 5 will supposedly begin shooting next year, and much of the plot line will revolve around the Bermuda Triangle.

"George [Lucas] and Steven [Spielberg] have been working on a script and it's almost there," the source said.

Shia LaBeouf, who played Indiana's son Mutt Williams, will also appear in the new installment.

"Shia LaBeouf has a central role again as Indy's son, but this will be a blockbuster made in the old-fashioned way rather than the CGI efforts of the last movie," according the source.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Pubrick on June 08, 2010, 11:27:57 PM
"...this will be a blockbuster made in the old-fashioned way rather than the CGI efforts of the last movie," according the source.

but but but..

"George [Lucas] and Steven [Spielberg] have been working on a script and it's almost there," the source said.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Alexandro on June 09, 2010, 12:11:36 AM
fucking shit.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Fernando on June 09, 2010, 09:03:46 AM
I love when posters become 'Inspiring/Aspiring actress Jacki Lynn", of course n00bs don't know what the hell is that, and by n00bs I mean ppl that have been posting less than FIVE YEARS.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Alexandro on June 09, 2010, 01:34:05 PM
were these two guys hurt in their pride by the reaction to the fourth film so much they have to make another one to redeem themselves or they are just in denial or are they just this greedy?
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: tpfkabi on June 09, 2010, 02:52:04 PM
the steer away from CGI is most welcome in my book...i'm intrigued.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Alexandro on June 09, 2010, 03:29:45 PM
they said the last time it was going to be "a 20th century film"...you think?
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: pete on June 11, 2010, 12:57:58 PM
no way, they don't have a time machine.  not even one that'll go back for a little bit.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Myxo on June 12, 2010, 03:35:19 AM
Just mentioning this quote again for reference below..

Quote from: Shia LaBeouf
I think the audience is pretty intelligent. I think they know when you’ve made (slop). And I think if you don’t acknowledge it, then why do they trust you the next time you’re promoting a movie…We [Harrison Ford and LaBeouf] had major discussions. He wasn’t happy with it either. Look, the movie could have been updated. There was a reason it wasn’t universally accepted….We need to be able to satiate the appetite. I think we just misinterpreted what we were trying to satiate. You get to monkey-swinging and things like that and you can blame it on the writer and you can blame it on Steven [Spielberg, who directed]. But the actor’s job is to make it come alive and make it work, and I couldn’t do it. So that’s my fault. Simple. I’ll probably get a call. But he needs to hear this. I love him. I love Steven. I have a relationship with Steven that supersedes our business work. And believe me, I talk to him often enough to know that I’m not out of line. And I would never disrespect the man. I think he’s a genius, and he’s given me my whole life. He’s done so much great work that there’s no need for him to feel vulnerable about one film. But when you drop the ball you drop the ball.

(I love how he says "the writer" and then mentions Spielberg by name.)

Now if somebody as overrated as Shia LaBeouf had this realization, why the fuck is Harrison Ford STILL wavering? Really? You REALLY think they're just going to get it right this time around? No. A million times no. Look, at some point Hollywood needs to stop raping cherished franchises. But I also realize these movies still make money. For whatever reason the same folks who Shia mentions are "pretty intelligent" were not smart enough to skip the fourth installment off reviews alone. There are fucking aliens at the end of Crystal Skull? FUCKING ALIENS. God please don't make a fifth movie. For the children!
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Sleepless on June 04, 2014, 10:59:40 AM
Y'all know that Disney bought up the Indiana Jones rights a few months back, right? So the theory goes that they're going to be making a new bunch of films, just like they are with Star Wars. After Crystal Skull, this got lots of people creaming know, but in my opinion they couldn't fuck it up any worse, so why not. And after all, they did the Young Indiana Jones TV show. Despite choruses of "but... but... Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones," there's also been an increased consensus that what worked for James Bond could work for Indiana Jones too. I'm not saying it's the most popular view, but I think there's a growing acceptance that it probably will happen. And it could genuinely work.

Anywho, the Daily Star (bottom of the barrel British tabloid) today reports that the new Indiana Jones could in fact be.... Robert Pattison.

Now, rest assure ye doubters, this will almost certainly not happen. Expect a long and torturous road to official casting just as with Star Wars. And they haven't even officially announced another Indiana Jones movie yet. But you know it's going to happen eventually. Surely within the next five years. And rebooting with a younger Dr. Jones seems like the obvious choice if they're going to recast anyway - and especially after the horrendous debacle that was Crystal Skull.

It's not going to be Robert Pattison. I don't think there's anyway in hell. But you know what? If it was him, I'd be willing to give him a shot. I still think the guy has some potential. Between him and Zach Effron, it seems Pattison is probably the one who has the potential to actually go the distance.

But you know who I think could be awesome? Taylor Kitsch. He's got the charm, the comedic sensibility, yada yada yada. Plus Disney really owe him one after fucking up John Carter.

At least Shia's name is nowhere near this, right???

Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: polkablues on June 04, 2014, 12:36:44 PM
He would be an utterly wrong choice for Indiana Jones, but Robert Pattinson is a legit actor, Twilight be damned. Case in point: http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=12846.0 (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=12846.0)

Taylor Kitsch would be interesting; I'll always root for Tim Riggins.

I've heard Bradley Cooper rumors. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

Fuck it, cast Michael B. Jordan. The internet will implode.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: diggler on June 04, 2014, 04:35:58 PM
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Sleepless on June 04, 2014, 05:14:04 PM
New theory:

Jonathan Ke Quan is all grown up, and takes up Indy's position at the university after Indy died a hero in WWII. NOTE: this takes place in an alternative (read: correct) time line where Crystal Skull never happened. At the end of the film, _____ turns up and recruits Short Round to join _______ (????) Goonies 2 happens.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 04, 2014, 08:11:12 PM

A thousand times yes. Antony Starr would be perfect. He has depth and humor and obviously has the action chops.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: polkablues on June 05, 2014, 12:25:44 AM
He's a good TV actor, but I don't see him surviving the leap to movies. I don't know what it is; certain actors have a level of gravitas that fills the small screen, but implodes on cinema. Kyle Chandler, Damien Lewis, David Caruso, Hugh Dancy (although he made the move backward from film to TV, he's positively magnetic on TV and utterly forgettable on film). Antony Starr might prove me wrong someday, but I would expect to list him among those ranks.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 05, 2014, 12:36:21 AM
I don't think his character in Banshee is rich enough for us to know for sure. He has more depth in that show than he should; it's a dumb character with a singular dumb motivation plus a series of dumb sex scenes. I think with actual good writing he could prove you wrong.

Anyway, random note, maybe add Joel Kinnaman to your list. He was perfect in The Killing. I haven't seen Robocop... just going by what I've heard.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: polkablues on June 05, 2014, 01:56:55 AM

"Prove me wrong, kids. Prove me wrong!"
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Garam on June 05, 2014, 08:19:44 AM
I've never understood the aliens criticism of Crystal Skull. The climax of the first movie involves a flesh eating supernatural entity. It was never a series grounded in realism.

I also didn't get why criticism was so fierce since the other two sequels were pretty shit too. Raiders is the only good Indy film.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Sleepless on June 05, 2014, 10:13:05 AM
I'm sure you can find evidence of me supporting the idea of incorporating aliens into the then-unlikely-to-actually-happen fourth Indy film once upon a time. There was a time when SS and GL proposed changing the genre of the fourth film to more of an out-and-out sci-fi as opposed to adventure to reflect the dominant genre of the decade in which the film would inevitably be set. I'm not 100% convinced that the idea of aliens was out-and-out awful. But the film as a whole was out-and-out awful. It's considered a lazy argument now, but the overuse of CGI in the film is just bad. Sorry, it is. The cartoony gophers. The giant ants. Nuking the fridge. The lame baddies. Shia. What should have been a rollicking adventure had too much family drama and was confused about what it was trying to do - be a decades later bookend to one of the most beloved franchises of all time, or a set up for a new franchise with Shia front and center. It failed on all counts. It is just a bad film. There's nothing more to be said. If anything, when (not if) the new series of IJ films come out, hopefully they will have learned that IJ films have to be set in the relatively innocent era of pre-WWII. That's the time these films work. As for Crystal Skull? It belongs in a museum the trash.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: diggler on June 05, 2014, 02:38:43 PM
He's a good TV actor, but I don't see him surviving the leap to movies.

Fair enough. The first time I saw Banshee, I kept thinking "this guy belongs in movies". I think he's got it, and has the presence to elevate shallow material. Some of the names you mentioned were just victims of miscasting. Kyle Chandler has been fine in movies, he just accepted he can't carry a film by himself. Caruso was great in King of New York, then somewhere along the line became a walking parody of himself.

While we're fancasting Banshee cast members, how awesome would Kai Proctor be as an Indy villain?

Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 05, 2014, 05:22:09 PM
He would make a good Nazi for sure. I think he's close-up dependent, though.
Title: Re: Indy V
Post by: diggler on June 05, 2014, 10:45:39 PM
He has many variations of the same face and they're all nihilistically perturbed.